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Stephen Strasburg, the second time around

Morning roundup

No matter what else happens tonight, Stephen Strasburg will notch another first in his rookie season. Strasburg has yet to face the same team twice, but he'll get a rematch against the Braves tonight at Nationals Park.

On June 28, in his fifth start, Strasburg shut out the Braves for six innings, striking out seven. They tried to attack his pitches early in the count, and Strasburg capitalized by pitching into the seventh inning. Once he got there, though, his start unraveled with the help of an Ian Desmond error that loaded the bases with no outs.

If we've learned anything about Strasburg, it's that he'll bring some serious intensity to tonight's start. The Braves handed Strasburg one of his only losses, and, as Dave Sheinin wrote, Strasburg is not above serving revenge alongside his 99-mph fastballs.

While Strasburg will get a second look at the Braves, their lineup will have a distinctly different feel with Jason Heyward back. In his first start in Atlanta, Heyward missed the phenom showdown with a thumb injury.

One thing to watch with Strasburg tonight is how many groundballs he can induce. Strasburg has talked about his preference for grounders over fly balls or even, in some cases, strikeouts. In a sign that Strasburg may be favoring his four-seam fastball over his two-seamer, opponents are hitting the ball in the air more than on the ground against him.

In his past six starts, Strasburg has allowed 50 fly balls and 42 grounders. (Fly balls include line drives, and both figures include outs, hits and errors.) It's not like the abundance of balls in the air have cut down his effectiveness. He has a 2.57 ERA over that span, and the Nats are 4-0 in his last four starts.

FROM THE POST

In his first trade deadline as the full-fledged GM, Mike Rizzo will have a chance to alter the franchise again.

NATS MINOR LEAGUES

Durham 15, Syracuse 4: Jason Botts went 1 for 4 with a home run. Starter Jason Jones allowed 10 runs in 2/3 of an inning on nine hits and a walk.

New Hampshire 8, Syracuse 3: Jesus Valdez went 2 for 4 with a double. Aaron Thompson allowed four earned runs in four innings on four hits and two walks, striking out five.

Potomac 10, Wilmington 1: In his second start getting a promotion from Hagerstown, Daniel Rosenbaum allowed no runs in eight innings on five hits and one walk, striking out five. Stephen Lombardozzi went 2 for 5 with a triple and a walk. Tyler Moore went 2 for 4 with a walk. Moore was named the Carolina League player of the week for second straight week.

West Virginia 8, Hagerstown 4 (7 innings, Game 1): Jordan Zimmermann allowed six earned runs in five innings on seven hits and one walk, his first walk and first runs of his minor league rehab. He struck out three and allowed two home runs. Rick Hague, the Nats' third-round choice this year, went 1 for 3 with a triple. J.P. Ramirez went 1 for 2 with a home run and a walk.

Hagerstown 9, West Virginia 3: Eury Perez went 2 for 2 with a double, a home run and a walk.

Tri-City 8, Vermont 3: Jason Martinson went 2 for 4 with a triple.

FROM AROUND THE WEB

Jason Heyward and Stephen Strasburg have tough competition for NL Rookie of the Year, Carroll Rodgets of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes.

The Nationals Enquirer has the transcript of the chat between Adam Dunn and Bob Uecker.

Ben Goessling looks forward to Strasburg-Heyward 1.

By Adam Kilgore  |  July 27, 2010; 8:26 AM ET
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Comments

Considering the propensity for errors on the team, perhaps fly balls are a better strategy anyway.

Posted by: natbiscuits | July 27, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Adam,

When is batting practice for the Nats tonight? We wanted to get there early to see it
Thanks

Posted by: Haroldgut | July 27, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

bisquit: Good point.

Posted by: BinM | July 27, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

All of my co-workers here in the A-T-L are asking me if "The Kid" as i like to call him is ready for another loss at the hand's of the Braves,i told em when we sweep you guy's it'll shut all of you up(and no i'm not drinking on the job)it's pretty much insufferable around the office these day's with tomahawk chop in full effect and the constant ribbing i.e.hey did the nats win last night? knowing full well that they lost don't be surprised if i'm on CNN in a hostage situation(LOL!)with these clowns.

Posted by: dargregmag | July 27, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Dargregmag - Just be lucky your coworkers aren't Phillies fans as Braves fans are annoying, but harmless, if you know what I mean!

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | July 27, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

biscuit, Unless they are deep to Morgan.

Jason Stark has a rumor three team trade in where we send Dunn to the White Sox, the Sox sends prospects to Arizona, and Arizona sends us Edwin Jackson.

I think that would be a great move if true.

2011 rotation could look like this:

SS
Zimm
Jackson
Maya
Livo

Then we could cut bait with Wang, Lannan, Olsen, and Marquis. The AAA rotation could hold 40 man roster guys like:

Atilano
Martin
Martis
Thompson
Detwiler

Posted by: hansenjo | July 27, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Trade a LH hitter, with proven 40/100+ with high OBP/SLG numbers for a 26yo RHP, with a career 4.72 ERA, 1.6:1K-BB, 1.51WHIP and a 0.98FO/GO ratio?
I'm less than impressed by the return there.

Posted by: BinM | July 27, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Cut bait with Marquis? They owe him $7.5M for next year. He's not going anywhere.

Posted by: dfh21 | July 27, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

And, if you believe it was bone chips that hampered Marquis, there is no reason to cut a guy who many teams wanted to sign as a FA months ago.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | July 27, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

BinM. If you're not going to spend the money to re-signn the LH hitter, with proven 40/100+ with high OBP/SLG numbers, you need to trade him for a MLB ready pitcher if you can get one.

Jackson is a former top prospect who would likely be a No 3 starter for any club but for the true elites; he's under team control for some time; he does not have a gazillion innings on his arm; he has thrown a no-hitter in the bigs; he regularly throws mid-90's stuff.

In return for 2 months of a rental on Dunn, that is not bad return at all.

Posted by: dfh21 | July 27, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Edwin Jackson is that the same guy who has been on 4 teams since 2008? Is that the same guy that pitched a no-hitter with 8 or 9 walks? Its that the same guy who leads the league in wp's?

Once again the Nats go shopping amongst the garbage piles looking for that rare gem that some how needs a change of venue to make it all come together.

First we get the news that Gentlemen "Double Switch" Jim will be returning and now we see Mr. Dunn will probably be departing the pattern for another suspect arm.

Lots of broken arms, plus no hit no field makes a lots of sense in NatsTown!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | July 27, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

See, this I just don't get. They're saying that Edwin Jackson (who's certainly not an A pitcher, B at the best) is worth 2 comp picks? That surprises me.

Posted by: swang30 | July 27, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Dunn for Jackson is a terrible idea. Let's hope it doesn't happen and I don't think it will.

Also, Marquis will be back in the rotation this year and almost definitely next year. Why? They're paying him $15 million over two years; he's going to pitch. Deal with it, folks.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 27, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Marquis will be back with a vengance.

hansenjo, I'd have to think some of those Phillies hitters would smile at your all right-handed rotation.

Posted by: lowcountry | July 27, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Trade a LH hitter, with proven 40/100+ with high OBP/SLG numbers for a 26yo RHP, with a career 4.72 ERA, 1.6:1K-BB, 1.51WHIP and a 0.98FO/GO ratio? I'm less than impressed by the return there. Posted by: BinM | July 27, 2010 11:54 AM

Would be a salary dump.

Jackson's 2010 ERA is 5.01. He has a losing record lifetime. And yes, the WHIP is mediocre at best. The biggest bummer would be the loss of the Nats' slugger, not the meager return. No reason for such a trade, other than the usual "to save money."

Posted by: EdDC | July 27, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

dfh: That's the thing - They need to re-sign Dunn & start proving to the fanbase that they're serious about building a team, rather than treading water.

Posted by: BinM | July 27, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

BinM, I agree that they need to re-sign Dunn, but IMO the odds of that happening are slim. Very slim.

My guess is that Dunn is an $80,000,000 Man. And at that price he's a bargain compared to Ryan Howard, so some club will shell it out. It is not likely to be the Nats.

If they don't trade him, they need to re-sign him before the end of August or the guy will have to go to the market to test the waters. If that happens, then the Nats will get blown away by Boston, Chicago NL or Atlanta (maybe others). Imagine Atlanta with Dunn -- favorites to win the Division every year with their pitching. In Wrigley he hits 50 bombs every year and gets to 500 for his career before the end of the 4th year on the contract. In Boston he hits .300+ and knocks in 120 RBI every year and Red Sox Nation makes him a God. All those clubs can throw big money at him and offer him a potential winning environment.

Time for the Nats to make a decision: either fish with Adam for 4 more years or cut bait.

Posted by: dfh21 | July 27, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

What I don't understand is ESPN saying Rizzo has been trying to get Jackson for prospects independent of a 3 way trade. Who in AZ has he fooled into thinking we have any position prospects? Sounds like a cover for Dunn and gone to ChiSox or Tigers to me. And we can then enjoy a Willie Harris/Adam Kennedy LH only platoon at 1B the rest of the year (Morse's value is as a PH you know) -- and sign 'em both for 2011 too -- they'll be cheap! And Nats will average 2.5 runs per game through next year.

Posted by: grclarkdc1 | July 27, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

We could have an impasse with Dunn. For example, let's say Lerner finally agreed to meet Dunn's salary demands of last off-season, after seeing that (yet agin) he is putting up the same big numbers he always has. Teddy's a little slow--the off-season was the time to re-sign Dunn, as Dunn advised us all. But Ted waited a few months and did finally come through. Of course, I'm just guessing about this.

However, here in the heart of summer, the price-tag has gone up. Why? Dunn is assured of getting big money, bigger than ever, because he is pounding the cover off the ball and learning defense (most nights he is not awful). He is now virtually assured that he is not going to have a down year going into the off-season. He doesn't need to take the "insurance policy" of the Nats--a pretty nice contract that sets him up for life. And because the Nats were so slow to recognize his value, Dunn probably feels like checking out some other teams. And why wouldn't he not only want to get out of a last-place organization, and maybe have some fun contending with a winner?

Lerner has to realize that the price went up because the slugger made it go up with his performance. He can't have last winter's price any more.

Some fans think that the Nats can't afford Dunn, so the Nats need to take what they can get for him. Something is better than nothing. That's a loser mentality. We need to help the Nats start to think like major league winners.

Posted by: EdDC | July 27, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Kurkjian thinks Dunn will be moved. Nothing too specific, but just feels like other teams want him badly and the Nats don't want to pay him for 4 years...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5413124

Posted by: Kev29 | July 27, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Some fans think that the Nats can't afford Dunn, so the Nats need to take what they can get for him. Something is better than nothing. That's a loser mentality. We need to help the Nats start to think like major league winners.

Posted by: EdDC | July 27, 2010 1:21 PM

I'd say it's akin to Stockholm Syndrome - many fans are now starting to sympathize with their captors/owners. It's amazing what American sports fans let owners get away with. The Lerners have set an incredibly low bar for this club and fans are starting to think that it's some sort of natural level - not one artificially created by the Lerners so they can cover their a$$es with gigantic annual profits.

Remember over the winter when some fans were saying that we shouldn't sign Pudge because we need that $3 mil of AVERAGE MLB SALARY elsewhere?? Great example of Lerner Syndrome.

Posted by: Kev29 | July 27, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

If you're not going to resign Dunn, you still have to be overwhelmed by a trade offer to send him away in July.

A team would have to send the Nats a player or players that are worth more than two comp picks and some broken hearts (whatever those are worth).

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 27, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I never said just cut Marquis, and as for the all right handed team SS, Zimm , Jackson (if rumors are true are locks, also Rizzo is in love with him) Maya maybe the real deal and Livo would be here to help Maya. as for Jackson, all of you calmored for Cliff Lee.

Lee 9 years
Jackson 8 years

Both have been on 4 teams

Lee 1326.2 IP (10.1 Rookie Year)
Jackson 799.1 IP

Lee 565 ER
Jackson 419 ER

Lee 143 HR
Jackson 95 HR

Lee 339 BB
Jackson 357 BB

Lee 1001 K's
Jackson 573 K's

Lee .260 AVG
Jackson .274 AVG

Lee 1.26 Whip
Jackson 1.51 Whip

Is he Cliff Lee No, but the number are close. Also, he would be better than Chico, Stamen et al.

Posted by: hansenjo | July 27, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Also,

As the trade deadline approaches, it is becoming apparent that Adam Dunn has a better chance to be traded by July 31st then to remain a long-term part of the Washington Nationals.

Rumors abound that Dunn is perturbed at the Nationals’ perceived lack of urgency in getting a contract extension completed .

Also, during the second inning of Saturday’s game with the Milwaukee Brewers went upstairs and had an on-air visit with Brewers’ radio man Bob Uecker.

Nationals’ manager Jim Riggleman told reporters that he didn’t want to hear about it, and Dunn said on Monday that “I could care less if I get in trouble for going up and seeing my guy after he had heart surgery. I’ll pay my fine.”

It doesn’t sound like things are too copacetic between the team and the first baseman, at least for the moment.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/425371-edwin-jackson-or-adam-dunn-who-helps-the-nationals-more


Posted by: hansenjo | July 27, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Nothing has been done yet, but let's face it, Friday-Saturday-Sunday could be ugly, ugly days on this blog. Dunn might be leaving just as the filth from PA/Jersey descend on the park. Have a great time with that one, Mr. Kasten.

Posted by: Kev29 | July 27, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Marquis ain't gonna do squat next year unless he has surgery. This whole thing about 'working through it' will sabatoge next year too. I mean, he's been out for a couple of months and he still can't throw. If had surgery in May, he might have been able to come back, unless the doc told them if he got cut on he'd miss next year automatically. Which is probably more like what happened. They want to sell the hope that he'll be back. These idiots are so cynical it's sickening. And I agree with the Stockholm Syndrome - and I think the media feeds into it. It's like yesterday, Dibble and Riggins are throwing softballs to Rizzo about Strasburg and how he handles autograph seekers from the other team, then the GM hangs up and Riggins asks Dibble if they'll trade Dunn and he says, 'YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN LAST PLACE WITH HIM ANYWAY'

The media is complicit and they're not doing their job. Point blank. Never seen anything so lame in my life as the media covering the Nationals. Absolutely disgraceful.

Posted by: Brue | July 27, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"Marquis ain't gonna do squat next year unless he has surgery. "

He HAD surgery, bozo. Pay attention, at least during that small percentile of the day when you're not drunk off your a**.

Posted by: FeelWood | July 27, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Kev29,

Good one! The Lerners Syndrome. Love it. And thanks for clearing up a big mystery on why Nats fans fall for the team moves (or lack thereof).

Other examples in recent days: Someone above thinks that Edwin jackson is close to being a Cliff Lee, maybe an affordable version--and Jackson is better than Chico! That's perfect. Yesterday someone said trade Capps so the Nats could have enough money to afford a RF. Someone else said trade Dunn to get enough money to sign all the top draft picks. Another fan gave a lecture on the importance of sticking with the tiny budgets.

The mini-Lerners are in love with their captors. They identify with their captors now. It is the only explanation I have heard that makes sense.

Posted by: EdDC | July 27, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I'll skip the name calling and just post this, from Nationals Journal archives:


Saturday, May 15, 2010
Marquis undergoes surgery on elbow

Jason Marquis underwent surgery Friday to remove bone chips from his elbow and is expected to return to the major leagues in eight weeks, General Manager Mike Rizzo said.

Marquis pitched Tuesday in a minor league rehab assignment and the next day felt his elbow "locked up," he said. Tim Kremcheck performed Friday's surgery. Marquis will start rehab immediately, and in four to six weeks he will be able to begin throwing in minor league rehab games.

--------------

FWIW, it's been nine weeks since the surgery. He's had two rehab starts and should pitch again on Wednesday.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 27, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Just a little reminder in advance of any possible Dunn deal (which I hope isn't a done deal):

The Nats, even with Dunn, Zimm, and Willingham, are 10th in the NL in HRs, and 14th in runs scored. They're actually a little better in pitching stats, 12th in runs scored. Now that's not good but 12th is better than 14th. And with pitching help on the way, there's some reason for optimism regarding the pitching.

How is the offense better without Dunn, for the rest of this year, next year and for the next four years?

Posted by: baltova1 | July 27, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

*Is he Cliff Lee No, but the number are close.*

No they're not, and the way you tried to disguise the distance between them--by presenting absolute rather than relative #s (career vs. per inning or K/BB)--gives it away.

Over his career, Lee has about 3x as many Ks as BBs--Jackson has barely half that (1.6 K/BB). .

Posted by: HHover | July 27, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, HHover, somebody had to point that out.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 27, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I am going to this Thursday's game, the business man's special, and I hope to see Dunn at first base making some of his patented moves on Zimmerman's high throws from third! Home runs would be great too!

Posted by: poncedeleroy | July 27, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The Nats, even with Dunn, Zimm, and Willingham, are 10th in the NL in HRs, and 14th in runs scored.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 27, 2010 2:21 PM

And remember our power stats before Dunn and Hammer?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/year/2008/sort/homeRuns/order/true

Lastings Milledge was tied for first in HRs (14) that season.

Yeah, go ahead and read that last sentence a couple more times to believe it. The Nats had half the amount of home runs the White Sox slugged that season - and those same Sox are begging for Dunn right now. Dunn/Zimm/Hammmer account for 63% of our home runs right now. Zimm's pre-Dunn SLG/OPS was .442/.774. 2009 was .525/.888. At the moment it is .519/.903.

Posted by: Kev29 | July 27, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

HHover,

The reason for the differential in K's is in numbers of innings pitched.

Lee 483 IP his first four years with 483 K's
Jackson 110 IP with 75 K's.

Posted by: hansenjo | July 27, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Lastings Milledge?!?! You kids think you had it tough -- we would have killed for a Lastings Milledge! In the old days, we extended contracts for guys like Ronnie Belliard and Dimitri Young because they were the only guys on the team that could hit over two-fiddy. And we liked it!

Posted by: joebleux | July 27, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

sorry Lee had 443.2 IP

Posted by: hansenjo | July 27, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Someone else said yesterday that the Nats do not need the Hammer cuz they have a younger (and more affordable) version in Mike Morse.

It is always either-or. Keeping Dunn or signing draft picks. Capps or a RF. Hammer or Morse. You can never stray beyond the happy Natstown limits imposed by the captors.

If the Nats do the deals, I'll be consoled that some great guys will get fresh starts in quality organizations. They deserve that.

Posted by: EdDC | July 27, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

In the old days, we extended contracts for guys like Ronnie Belliard and Dimitri Young because they were the only guys on the team that could hit over two-fiddy. And we liked it!

Posted by: joebleux | July 27, 2010 2:47 PM

And you had to walk barefoot through the snow, uphill both ways to watch them play at crumbling RFK! ;-)

Posted by: Kev29 | July 27, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Feeling better already, and here's why.

Since CLEARLY, Edwin Jackson is almost as good as Cliff Lee, it suddenly occurred to me that I am almost as good as Adam Dunn.

So, trade Dunn, lose Dunn to FA, DFA Dunn, I don't care. Then sign me for $500,000, a freakin' bargain!!

Of course, when I stink it up big time, you guys will stop being my friends and get all over my case and Rizzo's case and all.
But I'll have Riggleman on my side!
He'll keep playing me to "get me started", and when I go down swinging four or five times a game, he'll tell me my aggressive attitude at plate is good and is gonna pay off any day now. He'll make me feel good about failing.

This is AWESOME!

Posted by: Sunderland | July 27, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Sunderland,

You can be the next Dimitri Young,

Show up for a few days go on the DL for the rest of your contract and eat your way out of baseball...

Posted by: hansenjo | July 27, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

tell you what, hansenjo - you take Jackson, I'll take Lee (and we're not talking Civil War generals)

Posted by: lowcountry | July 27, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

hansenjo - I don't know if you're trying to fool me, or just fooling yourself, but the former ain't working.

The # of innings matters for both Ks *and* BBs--comparing the ratio of Ks to BBs factors out the difference in IPs.

Posted by: HHover | July 27, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Someone else said yesterday that the Nats do not need the Hammer cuz they have a younger (and more affordable) version in Mike Morse.
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That would have been periculum IIRC, somewhere late in the Matt Capps string from yesterday.

Posted by: BinM | July 27, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

>FWIW, it's been nine weeks since the surgery. He's had two rehab starts and should pitch again on Wednesday.

Posted by: baltova1

Oh you can call me names, I don't care. I generally don't read your posts anyway. I got your gist a long time ago. FWIW - I forgot all about the poor sob awhile back. You can have him. Get used to it.

Posted by: Brue | July 27, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

EdDC / Kev29:

FWIW, I think you two are onto something for real with the "Lerner Syndrome(© Kev29)".
Stan K has spent a ton of time & resources preaching and spinning "the plan" and trying to convince people that it's OK, normal and good for us to stink for an undetermined period of time.
He's certainly spent far less time & resources on building a fan base.

The mini-Lerners (© EdDC) are emboldened by knowing that Stan K agrees with them, and Stan is brilliant and so therefore they must be very astute and able to understand subtle nuances of MLB team-building that the rest of us can not.

Kudos to you both.

When I order lunch and am asked "fries or slaw", often I say "I'd like both please".
This can be applied to MLB team-building too huh?
Novel idea.

Posted by: Sunderland | July 27, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I see that y'all have come up with some new names to call fans who aren't on the same page with you. Yay! Good work! ;-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 27, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and now y'all can quit your jobs because, due to your superior abilities, you can choose from among a number of careers such as GM, team owner, or psychologist. Awesome. :-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 27, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Um, brue, I wasn't the one who called you names. I went out of my way not to do that. I just pointed out that you were wrong when you said Marquis should have had surgery since he already had it.

But feel free to talk tough to me. I guess I can "get used to it."

Posted by: baltova1 | July 27, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

>But feel free to talk tough to me. I guess I can "get used to it."

Posted by: baltova1

Last response to you. You can book that. I don't feed trolls.

Posted by: Brue | July 27, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

due to your superior abilities, you can choose from among a number of careers such as GM, team owner, or psychologist. Awesome. :-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1

I guarantee you I could come in last place 5 years in a row with no talent coming up in the minors, no depth in the majors, 5 second basemen on the ML roster, one and a half starting pitchers and no clue. Then after that I'd trade one of the best power hitters in the game.
On second thought, I could probably do a helluva lot better, because I like to win, unlike the the idiots that run this franchise. They just want to save as much money as possible.

Posted by: Brue | July 27, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

How much you wanna bet Brue flexes in the mirror in between paragraphs?

Posted by: baltova1 | July 27, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

When I order lunch and am asked "fries or slaw", often I say "I'd like both please".
This can be applied to MLB team-building too huh?
Novel idea.

Posted by: Sunderland | July 27, 2010 3:18 PM

:-)

I'm changing my screen name to IWantFries*AND*Slaw

Posted by: Kev29 | July 27, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Baltova. I haven't had a good laugh like that in a while. :-D

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 27, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Brue,

I am pleased to join you in thinking that I also am sure I could get better results for the Nats than have Ted/Stan/JimBo/Rizzo. I can put the team on track for a better future too than the current crew can. No, I do not have a professional sports background. I am just a fan. But how hard is it to get above last place once in awhile, especially if you can hire scouts and lawyers to do contracts? This is not self-aggrandizement. It is just not hard at all to beat what has been going on around here, even for an amateur like you or me.

Mostly it is about values. What is most important, (A) turning a nice profit or (B) using a modest fraction of the ol' family fortune to deliver a good team for the folks? Money can't be everything. So once I chose Plan B (delivering for the folks) I automatically am better than the current crew, assuming I know a little about baseball and rely on the scouts.

Posted by: EdDC | July 27, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey Gang-Seems I'm tad late to this internecine squabble. Well, here's the thing: I find plenty to agree with-from an analysis perspective-from all the participants. One thing's for sure...we are ALL tired of the seemingly endless wait for a recognition from the Slows that to this point, what EVER method they lay claim to...they need to do a better job. I do believe Kev has come up with as good an explanation as possible for those who don't feel the Slows could/should have done more for the PRESENT. It's even spilled over to current Gangsters-I mean. our arguments are sorta like which chair will float the longest AFTER the Titanic goes down. We're sweating the small stuff because so far.....
Keeping/not keeping - at least due to money? In a market this large, with demographics and visibility 2nd to none, and with passionate fans like the Gang? Sure, we're the hard core. But as long as the Slows continue to field a "product" that fails to do more than momentarily excite the curious, then we've got NO chance to try to explain or convince our friends why they, too, should be in on the ground floor. Like most of you,I'm a fan of pretty much ALL sports. As are my friends. But most of 'em think I'm nuts to be so in love with a franchise like ours. That is, if they even take the time to consider it.Most of 'em don't give the Nats a second thought, and that includes a fair number who were initially excited and interested.
SO...we'll continue to squabble over how to pronounce "tomato"...trying to convince ourselves that sooner or later, we'll have vines of our own producing fruit that actually does more'n just resemble the real thing. I just wish that while we are waiting, we could at LEAST keep the ones we got at the farmers market, and shop there more often. ya know?
Go Nats!!!

Posted by: zendo | July 27, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

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