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Game 110 discussion thread: Nationals at Dodgers

The Nationals enter tonight 11-17 against left-hander starters, and they'll face one of the better ones in the game in Clayton Kershaw, who, by the way, is only a couple months older than Stephen Strasburg.

The Nationas will have Kevin Mench available off the bench. The Nationals also considered Pete Orr and Jason Botts from Class AAA Syracuse to replace Nyjer Morgan, but they decided on Mench for his experience. (One assumes they didn't pick him for his .246 average and three homers this year.)

John Lannan will be making his second start since returning from his time in Class AA, which helped him recapture his form and rebuild his confidence. Lannan allowed two runs in five innings in his last start, striking out the last three hitters he faced.

Talk about the game right here.

By Adam Kilgore  |  August 6, 2010; 10:10 PM ET
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Mr. Dunn is red hot. Sure gonna miss him next season.

Posted by: amorris525 | August 6, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Where is everyone tonight? I guess you can't comment from Spider Kellys in Clarendon.

Posted by: burnsrb | August 6, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

If we miss him next year I will be one very disappointed fan.

Posted by: marathoner | August 6, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: marathoner | August 6, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Rizzo... I hope you are watching tonight. Give that man a contract! How many multi-homer games has he had in the past month?


Posted by: mastroj | August 6, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

I mean, ya kinda have to just sign him, even if it's for four yrs.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | August 6, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

It's up to Lannan to show his stuff tonight. He's staked to a nice lead so can pitch to his strengths. So far so good.

Posted by: marathoner | August 6, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Yank him.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | August 6, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Second night in row Nats run out batting practice pitcher. Send him down when next pitcher comes off disabled list.

Posted by: bamabug | August 6, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

As i said in an earlier post this franchise is intent on forcing Lannan and Maxwell down our collective throat's no matter what the cost.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 6, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Mench? you've got to be kidding me he 's a bum what do we need with him, bring up one of our "stud" AAA players (LMAO!).

Posted by: dargregmag | August 6, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry but everyone should flood every blog and every email address of Mike Rizzo that he better sign Adam Dunn right now before the price gets too high.
Lucky that the Dodgers. who use to have a lot of money but now the owners are paying millions to lawyers instead of players, aren't in the bidding war but you have to think that other rich teams will pay Dunn a pretty penny if Rizzo takes a chance and wait until October.
This is just like last year with Zimmerman, fans want Dunn resigned at any cost.

Posted by: Golfersal | August 6, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Nice work Rigs to sacrifice Pudge with 8 and 9 due up. Brilliant managing.

Posted by: the-real-deal | August 6, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Why not pinch hit for Lannan? Will live to regret it.

Posted by: bamabug | August 6, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Why on earth was Lannan batting there? Does Riggleman have that little faith in his bench?

I mean, if you don't care about winning or losing anymore, I suppose you should show your starting pitcher you have an excess of faith in him . . .

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | August 6, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Maxwell leading off the seventh. Will he A) strike out; B) strike out; or C) strike out?

Posted by: thepostischeap | August 7, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Huh. They walked him on four pitches. Suckers! That means, barring a DP or caught stealing/pickoff, that Dunn will bat this inning.

Posted by: thepostischeap | August 7, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Kid's fast, I'll give him that.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | August 7, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

What's with all the sac bunting? ARGH!!!

Posted by: mastroj | August 7, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

What's with all the sac bunting? ARGH!!!

Posted by: mastroj | August 7, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Willie Harris in. I am going to bed.

Posted by: bamabug | August 7, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Assuming we win out the season, we'll be 101-61, and probably in the playoffs. How's that for a turn around?

Posted by: swang30 | August 7, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Was at Merriweather this eve (perfect in every way), got home in time to catch the 7th and on, very happy to see the results so far.

Echoing others, please, oh please, in the name of all that is Natly, please sign Dunn!!!!!!!

And if I'm not asking too much, let's close this one with a win!

Posted by: NatAlbert | August 7, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Loved the comments! And NatAlbert, "Natly"? Great!!

Posted by: Supporter51 | August 7, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Nice curly west coast W! We have taken it to Kershaw this year!

Posted by: mo_dc | August 7, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

You whiney bastards. We won.

Posted by: ratman77hotmailcom | August 7, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Dunn now 82nd all time for home runs. Rodriguez may be getting alot of publicity but Dunn is still in pretty elite company.

Posted by: Enrico1 | August 7, 2010 5:42 AM | Report abuse

You whiney bastards. We won.

Ditto. Lannan pitched perfectly adequately, we beat a good pitcher, we had the lead from early in the game, and yet it's whine, whine, whine.

Posted by: markfromark | August 7, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Pitchers and JMax existing in parallel universes? Please, Riggs, while Nyjer is on DL, just pencil in Bernie as your leadoff hitter and CF every day and let's see what he can do. Lord knows we've suffered through many a game watching Nyjer struggle against tough lefty pitching--give Bernie the same chance. He's not ideal leadoff hitter but then again who is on this club?

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | August 7, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Now might be a good time to hear from all those posters who caution against overpaying Adam Dunn at $60/4. Maybe another $20/2 should be tops for Dunn?

Posted by: EdDC | August 7, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Can't speak for the others, but as for me...


Can't stay up for the West Coast games.

Was nice to wake up to a curly w in my in-box, though. Glad to see that Lannan picked up another w, too. As for Dunn - you know the drill, get it done...


Where is everyone tonight? I guess you can't comment from Spider Kellys in Clarendon.

Posted by: burnsrb | August 6, 2010 10:35 PM

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 7, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

So, any chance the Nats pass Florida or the Mets in the standings by the end of the year? Would be great not to finish last again.

Posted by: DavidandDonald | August 7, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Sign Dunn now! 4 years $60M--Cheap.

Posted by: cr8oncsu | August 7, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

All of you pining for Nyjer's demise will live to regret it i'm telling you now we get rid of this guy and it will come back to haunt us, yes Bernadina is very good CF but so is Nyjer and Nyjer is a better leadoff hitter and why so much disdain for Nyjer? last season he was one of the few reason's we watched that sorry bunch now we want to ship him to the nether regions.I said it once and i'll say it again had they kept Marquis Grissom as a coach all of the outfielder's would be doing a lot better defensively and at the plate.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 7, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

The reason a lot of fans prefer Bernie over Morgan at this point has a lot to do with their 2010 performance levels... agreed, Morgan was electric for the Nats in 2009 and has been playing somewhat better recently... but, Bernie has been getting on base a little more consistently through out this season and has much better power (i.e. Morgan has NO power), to the tune of a .765 OPS... Morgan's OPS is .644, over a hundred points lower... that is pretty significant...

Not to mention how incredibly frustrating it is to see Morgan make a god awful amount of base running mistakes over and over and over again...

Morgan from my perspective could be a pretty darn good 4th OF... that may be all Bernie is, too... but, he has outplayed Morgan in 2010 by a significant margin and he is 4 years younger then Morgan... the advantage at this point on this team would be running Bernie out in CF everyday and seeing what he can do...

Posted by: Ghost7 | August 7, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Gotta give some props to Burnett. Boy, did he look good against both righties and lefties. Best he's been since the Nats got him, last couple of times out.

Posted by: nats24 | August 7, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Hey Gang-g'morning! What dargreg said....but it's painful watching JMax struggle. As long as Nyjer's on the DL-just let Roger play. But given how unhappy Tony P was in being PUT on the DL....I got a feeling that The Rizz is giving some folks there "last shot". I think he's a pretty smart operator, and with Nyjer finally playing the way he's capable (Mickey Rivers, anyone? Just a thought)I think they're using this "DL" time to make some decisions on some other players. Any who, nice to see a west coast win.
On another note, with Alex getting 600...another chance for me to plug the new book on Henry Aaron (by Howard Bryant).
The man keeps growing as time goes by...(and greg, you finish it yet?)
Go Nats!!!

Posted by: zendo | August 7, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

" i'll say it again had they kept Marquis Grissom as a coach all of the outfielder's would be doing a lot better defensively and at the plate."

Ah yes, Marquis Grissom. The one coach generally acknowledged to have made Lastings Milledge into the outstanding centerfielder and leadoff hitter he is today. Will Grissom introduce Lastings at his HoF induction, or vice versa?

Posted by: nunof1 | August 7, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Zendo: Thanks for being the voice of reason concerning Nyjer, here in the A-T-L the real "Hammer"(Hank Aaron) is God down here and he has done very well for himself financially speaking with a number of car dealership's and a bevy of fast food outlet's he is pure class and yes i just purchased the book but have yet to start on it.The O's under Buck Showalter are playing a lot better any thought's Zendo on how he might have handled the Nat's anyone else out there with thought's on Showalter comming to DC.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 7, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I saw, and greatly enjoyed, most of that game. Took a little snooz but woke up to see our new closer register his first save. Was awake to catch Dunn driving in ALL of our runs, and second the "in the name of all things Natly" SIGN HIM comment. Of course, I've been singing that song (minus the "Natly" invention) since February. This guy is so consistently productive, and has become adequate at 1B, that surely even the Cheaps should be able to see his value. But I guess not. C'mon, Uncle Teddy, get this Dunn!

Posted by: NatsFly | August 7, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Nunof1: Who said Lasting's listened to Marquis, you can tell that when he was here he was full of himself and rarely took anyone's advice and that's why he's in the steel city(and not playing poorly) so don't disparage Grissom and who on Riggleman's staff can match Grissom's mlb career including the manager other than maybe Listach it doesn't hurt to have a successful mlb player on the coaching staff who can relate to a current player's day to day work on and off the field.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 7, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Sign Dunn. Seriously... I just wanted to pile on and add to the movement.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | August 7, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Grissom was one of Acta's coaches, IIRC. It struck me at the time he wasn't renewed in DC that he wanted to be a little more invested in his youth programs & community work than he could be as a MLB coach. Maybe that was just a 'make nice' excuse for public consumption, but he didn't get any other offers, even from Acta in CLE.

Morgan might need someone on the staff to settle him down occaisionally, but to say that all hinges on the loss of Grissom as a coach is a bit of a reach, imo.

Posted by: BinM | August 7, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

What the hey, I haven't said it for almost five hours, so "pay the man." ;-)

In other news, thanks to the Post powers that be for sending AK out for all these West Coast trips. At times he's our only beat writer on the ground, and I appreciate the presence.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 7, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Natsfan1a1: Here here on AK, nice to get info on the team it's a shame this team is still the "red headed stepchild" as far Wapo is concerned oh! except when "the kid" is on the mound.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 7, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Whatever the contract hangup is with Dunn (3 vs 4 years, $60M vs $65-70M+), there are ways around it. If it's years, offer three years with a vested option, if it's $$$, offer a front-loaded contract. Just Get Him Signed.

Posted by: BinM | August 7, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

So, who should they work on signing first? Harper, Solis, Cole, Dunn, Willingham ??? Harper is probably going to be painful given his immature outbursts on facebook. Then there's Dunn who is looking better than Harper might ever hope to be offensively. Solis is a potential left handed top of the rotation starter out of college and their second round pick. Cole is a high school pitcher who shows a lot of potential.

Who do you suggest they work on? Looks to me like Rizzo still has his plate full. He finally made JayB happy with the big International signing (Maya). But it looks to me like Rizzo's plate is still plenty full. Not sure there are enough hours in the day ...

... nevertheless IT IS interesting that both Kasten and Mark Lerner are traveling with the team ... according to AK's tweets he was shagging flies in full uniform in center field. So ... perhaps a spate of signings (let us hope!) are about to occur?

Posted by: periculum | August 7, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

If you think the purportedly "shifless" AK isn't doing the job you aren't following his tweets as the only beat reporter "on the ground" (as natsfan1a so aptly stated.)

Unfortunately MASN prefers sending Byron Kerr, he with the bad hair cut Phil Wood, etc. to away games instead of true beat reporter Ben Goessling. And their website always seems to try to steer me away from the Nats, throwing a ton of Orioles bird crap at me.

Posted by: periculum | August 7, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

We'll just update this for Adam.

From AK's twitter:

"Mildy interesting: Nats GM Mike Rizzo sitting next to Scott Boras behind home plate at Dodgers Stadium. Guesses what they're talking about?"

Posted by: periculum | August 7, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Stan shagging flies, in uniform--we need pictures of that!!

(good on ya for pointing out Our Man in LA is on the scene.)
nevertheless IT IS interesting that both Kasten and Mark Lerner are traveling with the team ... according to AK's tweets he was shagging flies in full uniform in center field. So ... perhaps a spate of signings (let us hope!) are about to occur?
Posted by: periculum | August 7, 2010 2:42 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 7, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

And from the "don't screw around with a good thing" file...
The Nationals are 21-9, with 16 no-decisions when the starter has a "quality start" (6IP, 3ER), and 10-28, with 26 no-decisions when they fall short. Here's the current rundown on the Nationals SP's this year:

Livan Hernandez: 22GS, 15QS (68%).
Stephen Strasburg: 9GS, 5QS (56%); coming off DL.
Scott Olsen [LH]: 10GS, 5QS (50%).
Craig Stammen: 19GS, 8QS (42%).
John Lannan [LH]: 16GS, 6QS (38%).
Ross Detwiler [LH]: 3GS, 0QS (0%).
Jason Marquis: 3GS, 0QS (0%); coming off DL.
Matt Chico [LH]: 1GS, 0QS (0%).
Luis Atilano: 16GS, 5QS (31%); on 15-DL.
J.D. Martin: 9GS, 2QS (22%); on 60-DL.
Garrett Mock: 1GS, 0QS) (0%); on 60-DL.

My point being that Strasburg, Livo & Olsen should go every five to six days in a rotation; Fit the other returning pitchers into the rotation with minimum disruption to the starters who give you the best chance to win.

Bringing Marquis back is ok by me (lets' see what he can bring to the table for this year & possibly 2011); But what's the difference in starting Olsen on 8/10 (in rotation, but on 7 days rest) vs FLA, or 8/12 (off rotation, with 9 days rest) vs FLA? That's just a $$-saving move, imo, since Olsen is into the incentive portion od his contract.

Posted by: BinM | August 7, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

In my book, it's 1)Dunn (Who should have been signed back in May), 2) Harper; 3) Solis; 4) Cole (who I'd be pleasantly suprised with at this point); 5) Willingham (still under control via arbitration).
Dunn is the pivot point for the Nationals' offense; He forces the opposing team to make a choice - Pitch to Zimmerman, pitch to Dunn, or pitch to Willingham. Kershaw paid the price last night by choosing poorly.

Posted by: BinM | August 7, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

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