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Game 129 discussion thread: Nationals vs. Cardinals

In case you forgot with the deluge of coverage about Stephen Strasburg, the Nationals are playing some ball at Nationals Park tonight. They're trying to build off their thrilling, 13-inning victory last night. The missile Albert Pujols hit -- which may or may not affect the airspace for Strasburg's flight tomorrow to Los Angeles, depending on when it comes down -- put the Cards up 1-0 and placed Scott Olsen in an early hole.

A night after roughing up Chris Carpenter, the Nats get their first crack at potential rookie of the year Jamie Garcia. Talk about the game right here.

By Adam Kilgore  |  August 27, 2010; 7:26 PM ET
 
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Morse clubs one to the wall for a double! Maybe we can continue our hitting from last night!

Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 27, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

To add to his misery Rizzo had to sit there in the booth and listen to Knight carve up Desmond for having flat feet in the field and never moving in on the ball and taking up space. That's why he always gets tough hops, because he doesn't charge the ball, like the one on the SS side of 2B that Gonzalez went and poached and muffed. If you're the SS, it's just like CF - you take charge because you're the best fielder.

Posted by: Brue | August 27, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, we've got games to play. We're not the Washington Strasburgs or Nexpos, after all. We have a team on the field and a future, and hopefully some fans to give some exciting baseball. Ray really likes Desi, thinks he's special, so the critique is good for Rizzo to hear.

(tough day for Mike! I agree!)

Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 27, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Going way off topic here (maybe it's a good time to do so), has anyone else noticed Chico Harlan's terrific reporting from Asia? (See p. A-10 of today's paper WP, for example.) (...Just trying to take my mind off the Nats news...)

Posted by: skidge | August 27, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Just got home and turned the game on. Wasn't Dibble due back. Any word about what's going on?

Posted by: marathoner | August 27, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

>Just got home and turned the game on. Wasn't Dibble due back. Any word about what's going on?

Posted by: marathoner

I don't know, but Knight has mentioned him several times tonight and his expertise in calling a game. Hmmmmm

Posted by: Brue | August 27, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I must have missed. How did St. Louis score 2 unearned runs. What errors did we commit?

Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 27, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Dibble is claiming his words were directed at a fully healthy SS, were intended as a "pep talk" and have been twisted by certain "sick" individuals. Check out Steinberg"s Sports Bog. He's really lost it, don't see how he can show his face around NatsTown again.

Posted by: Natmeister | August 27, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

The usual pathetic hitting with runners on base. Seems to happen on a VERY regular basis. Once again, one wonders if Eckstein/Riggleman put any emphasis on this aspect of the game. Is it possible that these guys could leave 27 men on base in a game?

Posted by: LeeM9308 | August 27, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

When I become GM of the Nats, the first person I will DFA is Nyjer Morgan. He is a TERRIBLE baserunner.

Posted by: SilverSpring8 | August 27, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Nyjer has to go. He's cost us so many runs this year with his terrible baserunning.

Posted by: SilverSpring8 | August 27, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Morgan's approach to baserunning is just inconceivable. One of the team leaders needs to get in his face. On the other hand, doesn't Riggleman have a red light sign? At this point, I would have to support the seven game suspension.

Posted by: Natmeister | August 27, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I figure Dibble's absence is entirely voluntary, maybe some hurt feelings about the kind of criticism he is being given. Ray Knight just seems to be encouraging him not to quit.

His apology about his sexist remarks sounded defiant, like he didn't think he had said anything wrong, so I figure he was already POd even before his remarks about the need to play with hurts sometimes. He certainly was not thinking Strasburg was injured and would need surgery and rehab.

Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 27, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Dibble was talking today to of all people but Jim Bowden........when he made his latest I did nothing wrong and you all are sick to think so remarks .......what really hits you in the gut is his comment to Bowden about the great work he did as GM of the Nationals rebuilding the team ......now it really is confirmed his mind has been poisoned from all the ink on his arms

Posted by: CBinDC | August 27, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Now, if THAT bonehead play doesn't generate some managerial discipline, there is something definitely lacking on this team. If the player doesn't take some accountability for his actions, the manager HAS to.

With Nyjer, this kind of absolutely stupid play has happened much too frequently this year - and without any apparent consequences as a result. Riggleman seemingly condones these stupid plays without penalizing the player by taking away playing time. Something needs to be done.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | August 27, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing the lawyers are working out terms of separation for Dibble, just don't see the Nats front office allowing him back in the booth. Insulting fans and players is fine for kooky talk radio personalities but not for the home town TV broadcasters. The fact he is commiserating with Bowden about his words being twisted by sick individuals is the kiss of death.

Posted by: Natmeister | August 27, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

For God's sake play a pitcher at first base. Dunn is horrible. He is an automatic out every time up.

Posted by: MKadyman | August 27, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing the lawyers are working out terms of separation for Dibble, just don't see the Nats front office allowing him back in the booth.

Posted by: Natmeister | August 27, 2010 10:04 PM

Let's not forget, that firing would have to come from MASN. So the Orioles will be deciding Dibble's fate.

Showed some pop again in the 9th tonight. Not enough. Cardinals got a win for their home crowd tonight.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 27, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

MASN be damned -- they don't decide who gets into Nationals Park. Every personal services contract has a conduct clause. If the Nats can prove Dibble's conduct is deterimental to their organization, he's gone. And I'm betting he's out on his ear.

Posted by: Natmeister | August 27, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

MASN be damned -- they don't decide who gets into Nationals Park. Every personal services contract has a conduct clause. If the Nats can prove Dibble's conduct is deterimental to their organization, he's gone. And I'm betting he's out on his ear.

Posted by: Natmeister | August 27, 2010 10:24 PM

Jeez, meister - he didn't punch one of the Lerners in the face, he gave an opinion on how Strasburg should deal with a then assumed minor injury. He was wrong and looks like an ass, but he's hardly a monster.

Now I don't there's any chance he'll be back next season, but it's not like the Nats need to bar him from entering the stadium again for a harsh opinion before anyone knew the severity of this situation.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 27, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Adam or whoever.
I thought that Rod Dibble was only going to miss two days, he isn't back tonight. Of course now that the Strasburg injury is really bad Dibble probably feels pretty small, as he should.
Still he is a damn good announcer and we should be lucky to have him, even if he is a bit of a hot head and picks on poor ladies behind the plate.
Still what we all want to know is Dibble finished????
Seems that way because if he could of come back and really eaten some crow tonight with a big time apologize it could of helped things instead of just letting it sit like this with people thinking he got fired.

We need Dibs back.

Posted by: Golfersal | August 27, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Sheinin passed on what he heard about Dibble earlier today in a chat - that they are expecting him back tomorrow. He also said that was not anything official or certain, so maybe it will be longer.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 27, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Twelve hits 11 plus runners left on base, a critical pickoff that might have changed the game, the bottom line; at the conclusion of this season the coach's, the manager, need to be shown the door don,t blame Nyjer for getting picked off or Adam Dunn for his repeated failures in the clutch, the propensity to commit error's "like they like it" as one radio sports host put it, that is the culture of this ballclub no accountability this team has talent no doubt but the mindset of intensity is sorely lacking they will never win under Riggleman until the culture of this ballclub is changed.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 28, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Dargramps,
I've been in agreement with you all year regarding the statue-of-liberty coaches, and i'm leaning toward Riggs being the wrong style for a team that makes way too many stupid mistakes.

But -- how can you say you shouldn't blame Nyjer? At what point of his 15+ pick-offs/caught stealings do you start to blame Nyjer?

At what point of Dunn's impotence with RISP do you start to blame Dunn?

I have to agree with previous posts, over and over, about whether or not Eckstein and the team emphasizes the importance of having a plan, and adapting that approach when you have RiSP. That's the difference between having hits... and having runs.

Posted by: mo_dc | August 28, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

mo_dc I have to say you've got a lot of ammo.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 28, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

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