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Today's lineups

The Nationals will use their typical lineup today aside from Alberto Gonzalez getting his second straight start. Tonight, he'll replace Ian Desmond at shortstop for a game. For the Diamondbacks, Mark Reynolds is back in the lineup a day after getting hit in the head by a Collin Balester fastball. Also, old friend Ryan Church makes his first start for Arizona.

Nationals
1. Nyjer Morgan, CF
2. Adam Kennedy, 2B
3. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
4. Adam Dunn, 1B
5. Josh Willingham, LF
6. Roger Bernadina, RF
7. Ivan Rodriguez, C
8. Alberto Gonzalez, SS
9. Craig Stammen, SP

Diamondbacks
1. Chris Young, CF
2. Kelly Johnson, 2B
3. Justin Upton, RF
4. Adam LaRoche, 1B
5. Miguel Montero, C
6. Mark Reynolds, 3B
7. Stephen Drew, SS
8. Ryan Church, LF
9. Ian Kennedy, SP

By Adam Kilgore  |  August 4, 2010; 6:05 PM ET
 
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We saw Good Livo the other night, hope we see Good Craig tonight.

Posted by: Natmeister | August 4, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Dunn assuredly has market value to get 4 years. However, the mini-Lerners are sure Dunn will fall apart in 2014, when Dunn will be 34. Since he is a big time slugger, the Nats should sign him, if the $60/4 asking price is accurate. The Nats can't be last-place losers forever!

But what to do about the dreadful year of 2014? Should we all move out of town that year? Will 2014 be any worse than the last few seasons for baseball fans?

Nats fans seemed fine to see Rizzo go after old guys Adam Kennedy 34, Livan 35, Peralta, 34, Pudge 38 and Batista 39. Why? Simple. Because they were all bargain basement signings. They did not cost the club any real money. And of course saving money is more important than wins.

When it comes to a legit slugger, all of a sudden the fan base says, whoa, hold on, we can't do anything about the four years, because Dunn will be 34! Moreover, Dunn should give the club a Hometown Discount, some fans say.

It is touching that the fan base wants to protect their owner. However, he really doesn't need the protection. Not only is the owner wealthy, but the DC region is the nation's wealthiest and it is the 8th largest in population in the US. The Nats can afford Dunn, even if it means paying him market value. They can afford other players of Dunn's caliber too.

If the Nats let Dunn walk, who do you see taking his place at 1B? It has to be someone willing to play for a last-place club, so no fair saying Adrian Gonzalez. Alberto maybe, but not Adrian. Morse, a 10 year minor leaguer and bargain basement guy? Someone said yesterday that Morse could hit 20 HR!

Posted by: EdDC | August 4, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Hello old friend Ryan Church!! That's really all I have to say. The headline "Gaithersburg man accused of squirting semen from bottle on women" really messed up my brain...

Posted by: CJArlington | August 4, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Gang-yea, Ed-we seem to be talking to one another....and not to put too fine a point on it but the Slows are the wealthiest owners in all of MLB-and until the Russian Billionaire bought the Nets, they were the richest in owners in ALL American team sports (courtesy of Forbes). Where the Tigers have an owner who spends liberally given the economic status of Detroit (although the region is still big and wealthy-just not the city).....Well, we have the Slows. Now, I do trust Rizzo. But even though he says he has no financial constraints....well.... We'll see....
Go Nats!!!

Go Nats!!!

Posted by: zendo | August 4, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse


Glad to see that Reynolds and Weeks appear to be OK. Scary stuff.

Posted by: Drew8 | August 4, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Ed/Zendo (If I am allowed to join this conversation): As far as the Lerners go, I think we all need to remember that they didn't become billionares overnight and they won't be perfect owners overnight either. There is a learning curve to being an owner of a professional sports franchise, just as there would be in any other job/position etc.
Look at Dan Snyder. He is (hopefully) JUST beginning to learn how to own a football team (let football minds run the team, sign the checks and stay the hell outta the way).
I think Mark Lerner got sucked in by Bowden and that truly set the team back. Rizzo is a true baseball man from a baseball family. It is slowly turning around, but at least the team isn't rudderless.

Posted by: TimDz | August 4, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Gang-absolutely, Tim-on all points. That's why I call 'em the "Slow" Lerners as opposed to cheap. Cleaning up some recently, I came upon a profile of them from '07 in "Washingtonian". And I've always said I BELIEVE Ted when he says he wants to build a perennial contender. (If nothing else, it's just maximizing an asset-good bizz!). Just wish they realized "The Plan" and not being wretched aren't mutually exclusive. And we're Not wretched anymore. Still...I think we could be a darn site closer, to the point of realistically being in the game for the playoffs THIS year. Next year? I think it's a Dunn deal-that ensures it! And oh, welcome to the Gang....
Go Nats!!!

Posted by: zendo | August 4, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

At the end of the day (not literally), I think Dunn re-signs here. If he clears waivers and is not traded (which I think is the most likely scenario), I am guessing that his people and Rizzo work out a deal for him to stay here. He has not been terrible at 1st, but has been serviceable. Lets face it, Marerro may never be the heir apparent and may end up getting moved to an AL team for use as a DH.
I think Dunn signs for 3 with some sort of vesting option for a 4th year.

Posted by: TimDz | August 4, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Ryan Church is nobody's friend. It will be a blessing once he is out of baseball for good.

Posted by: brothbart | August 4, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

zendo,

Detroit region has a million people fewer than the DC region, and the DC region is much wealthier than Detroit's region. Many smaller regions have clubs that easily outspend our Nats--some by far.

50 largest metropolitan statistical areas in the United States by population

New York
Los Angeles
Chicago
Dallas-Fort Worth
Philadelphia
Houston
Miami
Washington
Atlanta
Boston
Detroit
Phoenix
San Francisco-Oakland
Riverside-San Bernardino
Seattle
Minneapolis-St. Paul
San Diego
St. Louis
Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater
Baltimore
Denver
Pittsburgh
Portland
Cincinnati
Sacramento
Cleveland
Orlando
San Antonio
Kansas City
Las Vegas
San Jose
Columbus
Charlotte
Indianapolis
Austin
Virginia Beach-Norfolk
Providence
Nashville
Milwaukee
Jacksonville
Memphis
Louisville
Richmond
Oklahoma City
Hartford
New Orleans
Birmingham
Salt Lake City
Raleigh
Buffalo

Posted by: EdDC | August 4, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to note that Miami is just above DC. They spend less for now, but they are moving into a new ball park, so it will be interesting to see what they do in the next five or so years after they get the revenue flowing in...

Posted by: TimDz | August 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"Nats fans seemed fine to see Rizzo go after old guys Adam Kennedy 34, Livan 35, Peralta, 34, Pudge 38 and Batista 39. Why? Simple. Because they were all bargain basement signings. They did not cost the club any real money. And of course saving money is more important than wins."

EdDC, cool it with your revisionist history. Lots of Nats fans posting here and elsewhere hate Kennedy and Batista. I have seen lots of people applauding the pickups of Pudge and Livan - but only because they have produced. Not because they came cheaply.

Similarly, for someone to say that Dunn will not command an outlandish contract is not for them to say the Nats shouldn't or won't sign him. Why should they overpay if they don't have to? OTOH, they have shown many times that they will pay above market value to get the player they want.

Prediction: The Nats sign Dunn. The Nats sign Harper. And you continue singing your same clueless tune.

Posted by: nunof1 | August 4, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey Gang-Check, Ed. Didn't mean to imply that Detroit was bigger than us..or wealthier. To tell the truth, what with all that ails the auto bizz, I was trying to be nice-and too lazy to type! And fwiw, I kinda like both Bautista and Kennedy-shrewd, if cheap, moves, imho...which just gets us back to ........WE ALL LOVE THE NATIONALS! For sure, I think, something we all agree on!
Go Nats!!!

Posted by: zendo | August 4, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

nunof1,

In case you missed it, I very much want the Nats to step up to the MLB plate and sign Dunn and Harper. I'm not crazy about last place at all.

Posted by: EdDC | August 4, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

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