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Adam Dunn out of the Nationals lineup

The Nationals will send Ross Detwiler to the mound to start for the first time since early August. He will not have Adam Dunn, who left last night's game after getting hit by a pitch, behind. Adam Kennedy will play first in his stead, with Ian Desmond batting third. Wilson Ramos will be behind the dish.

1. Danny Espinosa, 2B
2. Adam Kennedy, 1B
3. Ian Desmond, SS
4. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
5. Roger Bernadina, LF
6. Michael Morse, RF
7. Wilson Ramos, C
8. Justin Maxwell, CF
9. Ross Detwiler

At the moment, there's quite a scene at Nationals Park: Joel Peralta, Livan Hernandez and Miguel Batista are taking batting practice against underhand pitching with large, yellow softballs and metal bats. How those balls and bats even got here, don't ask.

By Adam Kilgore  | September 23, 2010; 12:28 PM ET
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Thanks for the description of the 'unusual scene': good for a nice laugh!

Posted by: mgilham | September 23, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Metal bat mfgs (DeMarini, Easton, etc.) visit many of the stadiums with their heavy hitters and conduct HR hitting contests using the 12" slowpitch softball. Either that, or Livan is getting ready for the next stage of his career: beer league play.

Posted by: joemktg1 | September 23, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I had a feeling about Dunn.

Would love to see pics or video of the bp session. Speaking of softball, don't forget that Figueroa *really* likes it when you cheer like a bunch of softball girls. :-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 23, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Just looked at the Long Haul Bombers stadium tour schedule and see that it ended at the Mets a few weeks ago. I happened to attend a Nats Park game on the day of a tour stop at one point (last year?). Was fun to watch.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 23, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

After another look at the schedule, the Bombers were at Nats Park this year as well, on August 15.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 23, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I was there last year as well, it was insane, to say the least. Seeing balls hit almost to the centerfield plaza with regularity was quite a sight. Unfortunately, I don't remember if it was inspiring or demoralizing for our offense that day, but given our play last year I think I know which one I'd take a guess at :)

Posted by: RPrecupjr | September 23, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

SI reporting Kasten resigning

Posted by: joemktg1 | September 23, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Boswell's column this morning hinted at it coming.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | September 23, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

But the music make them wanna be the story
And the story was whatever was the song what it was
Softball girl don't worry
Play the Mets all night long ...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | September 23, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I'd say Boswell's column did a little more than "hint."

And yeah, let's see some pix of the pitchers' softball BP! :-)

Posted by: Juan-John1 | September 23, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Did someone mention McBain........ because I have purchased the Springfield YMCA. I plan to tear it down and turn the land into a nature preserve. There, I will hunt the deadliest game of all... Man.

Oh, and the Natinals have people resigning? Who would've thunk. Let's see the Natinals are struggling to finish out the season again (since August 3 they've gone 18-28, wow that's bad) and now they have the teams President resigning. Yikes!

The Fighting Showalters are actually finishing their season very strong, for the first time in a while (since August 3 they've gone 29-18 ) and it looks like they'll make some move to greatly enhance the club going forward for the 2011 season.

Which team has more hope for the future? The answer is obvious and it's the team that plays in Maryland.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Any comment from the 'Lerners AREN'T cheap crowd'? I can't believe there still is one.

Posted by: Kev29 | September 23, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"Which team has more hope for the future? The answer is obvious and it's the team that plays in Maryland."

No, Poopy its actually the other team that played in Canada: the Blue Jays which is why Sartori and who knows? Perhaps Kasten will end up there? They have guys like Tony LaCava. They are playing above .500 ball after trading Halladay and going into rebuilding stage drawing from their farm system.

Do you think the el-cheapo angelos can compete with the well oiled machine that is the Blue Jays? In the same division as the Yankees and the far better run TB Devil Rays? Not in a milliion years dude. You need a bucket of water poured over your excrement so that you can wake up and smell your own massive.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Boy someone sure is bitter that the Orioles are better than the Natinals.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Post is reporting Kasten will be jumping ship after this season. Guess the Lerners will be joining the pantheon of other terrible owners in the DC area with Danny and Angelos.

Posted by: futbolclif | September 23, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, as regard this Poop fella, what on Earth. How arrogant do you have to be to tout your fancy team that was SO bad that even WITH a 29-18 spurt you're still at the back of the league. STILL likely to lose 95 games. That sucks. If it makes you happier that the Nats have also sucked, fine, but quit talking like the O's are any more impressive. They stink like your screen name. I guess when you have 10+ straight losing seasons, turning a once-proud franchise into a laughingstock, you have no choice but to get excited about reaching 60 wins!

And by the way, if you're going to suck in baseball, at least have the good sense to really suck, and get the no. 1 draft pick, when the two best amateur players of this generation are draft eligible!

Posted by: cdstej | September 23, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Actually soccer clif I'd say Angelos and Snyder are better than Kasten since both of those owners have finally hired people who know what they're doing and have gotten out of the way themselves.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse


Dude, you are the one who must be bitter? The Angel O's are one of the cheapest, poorly run organizations in baseball. Intentionally so? The Nats are a team that was completely depleted talent/prospect wise by major league baseball ... less even than an expansion franchise in 2006? And you are bragging about the O's being better? Not hardly.

The O's need a new owner that's for certain. The Lerner's are the wealthiest owners in the MLB. They just need to be a bit less frugal and a bit more trusting of guys like MIke Rizzo. But they are certainly not trying to be the GM's and Angel-loser has.

There's a difference. The O's will always be worst than every team in their division. As long as they are Angel'O's. The Nats on the other hand have some hope of improving enough to compete with the Phillies, Mets, and Marlins.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

in the DC area with Danny and Angelos.

Posted by: futbolclif | September 23, 2010 2:05 PM

Baltimore is not the DC area, but point taken nonetheless.

Posted by: Kev29 | September 23, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The Lerners aren't even close to as cheap as the Angel' O's.

But yeah without increasing payroll they aren't going to be competitive. Stan's resignation seems damning in that regard.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow periculum how many incorrect "facts" can you make in one post?

The O's, under Angelos, have had the highest payroll in all of MLB. They're routinely had a moderately high payroll (now one can argue just how wise they spend those funds). Not to mention that if you look at, you know facts, that the O's have been one of the highest paying teams recently, in terms of paying draft picks.

And you wanna talk about "depleted" minor leagues? Before MacPhail showed up the O's had no one in the minors. He's done a remarkable job of bring lots of talent to the minors. Granted there might not be much at the AAA-level now, but that's because all those prospects are in Baltimore now, making a positive difference.

The low minors are well-stocked with both pitching and position prospects.

But again, don't let facts get in the way of your ignorant, bitter ramblings.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Nationals--64-88 .421
Orioles--61-91 .401
Facts--they're so inconvenient. Amen to periculum and the guy who wanted to punch you in the mouth yesterday.

Posted by: fpcsteve | September 23, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

peri, you may well be right that Kasten sees the Lerners as never opening their wallets to provide what is needed to win, but he also might just be tired of the losing. Lord knows we all are.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | September 23, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I saw this today from Boz in his chat:

"How can Riggleman have THREE TIMES as much negative influence as any good manager has positive influence?"

HAHAHHAHAHA. There it is folks. Statistics prove that Riggleman is by far the worst manager in all of MLB.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

on and steve, don't worry, with the way both the Fighting Showalters and the Natinals are playing, the O's should pass the Natinals in the standing soon enough.

But you and your fellow Natinal fans "celebrate" not being able to lose 100 games. Talk about progress........

Oh, and steve, are you another "keyboard cowboy" anonymously talking about wanting to punch people in the face?

Boy, the Natinals sure have some "tough" fans.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Fyi, Bautista cranked his 50th homer for the Jays this afternoon. Shawn Hill on the mound for the Jays tossed 5 innings of 4 hit shutout, one walk and 7 K's. Good for him.

Posted by: slopitchtom | September 23, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Zuckerman says that Kasten told the players he is leaving. About an hour ago.

Posted by: twinbrook | September 23, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I do hate feeding the trolls, but I have to admire the passive-aggressiveness of one Mr. McPoop. Question to you dear sir ... where were you prior to the hiring of Buck Showalter? Because you sure as heck weren't in here commenting on the dreaful play of the Orioles. Rarely were you in here defending anything the O's were doing/had been doing/would be doing. We weren't blessed with your wit until they actually started playing the way ALL prognosticators/experts thought they would be playing all season.

So is it safe to assume that if the O's start next season like they did this season, then you won't be back in here? I'm glad that you are proud of your team, and they deserve all the accolades for the good job they've done since Buck took over. But to say that right now the O's are far superior to the Nats is like saying that death by drowning is far superior than death by falling out of a skyscraper. They all stink.

Posted by: erocks33 | September 23, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

@Kev29: As someone who started out believing the Lerners were too miserly and then came more recently to believe they had learned some lessons, I guess I have lately been in the "Lerners aren't cheap" crowd and should respond to your challenge.

I am holding my fire, for now. But I am willing to revise my view depending on what we learn. Boswell's column was interesting, especially in the comparison with the Twins.

I have said from the beginning (apart from the issue of payroll size), that the Lerners seemed to have no idea how to handle a customer-oriented and highly visible business that is entirely different from the secretive world of real estate development. That, I absolutely believe, is still true.

I will be interested to hear more from Stan (and others) once he's actually out the door. In particular, I want to hear who he wanted to sign that the Lerners wouldn't spend for. One of the major shortcomings of the "Lerners are cheap argument" has been the difficulty of identifying game-changing FAs who would have been worth the money AND who would have been willing to come to Washington. Maybe StanK can shed some light.

I have a completely open mind on this.

Posted by: Meridian1 | September 23, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I've been reading/posting on Natinals Journal for a good while (what's funny too is that if you go to the Google and type in Natinals Journal, this page is one of the first links to pop up, gotta love it).

As for how the O's will start the season, do you really expect them to start off the way the did? Plus next year they should be with their catalyst, lead-off man, table-setter Brian Roberts from the get-go. And do you really think Buck will let MacPhail and Angelos not have a productive offseaon of bring in actual talent?

Sorry but I don't see Buck settling for more Tejada's, Atkins, Hendricksons, Lugo's, etc.

So in reality there's a very slim chance the 2011 Orioles get off to the same start as the 2010 Orioles.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, erocks33. It's why I don't feed this troll.

It must be hard to be a front-runner when your team's never in front. I guess that's why he's excited about the possibility of being in front of the back of the pack. Talk about low expectations in life.

Posted by: baltova1 | September 23, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Yet, I'm not the one celebrating not being able to lose 100 games.

That would be........Natinal fans.

You all will be even more bitter next year when the O's are actually competitive, and the Natinals, well, they'll keep playing like the Expos.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

One of the major shortcomings of the "Lerners are cheap argument" has been the difficulty of identifying game-changing FAs who would have been worth the money AND who would have been willing to come to Washington. Maybe StanK can shed some light.

I have a completely open mind on this.

Posted by: Meridian1 | September 23, 2010 2:39 PM

I think the 'willing to come to Washington' thing is a little overplayed - not irrelevant - but overplayed. Who was willing to go to Detroit in 2004? Well, they spent a lot, got a lot and landed in the World Series two years later (oh and doubled their attendance numbers!).

I still think that a more ambitious owner would have gone all out for Torii Hunter in the winter before opening a new publicly funded, controversial park. You don't think he would have changed a few games that Lastings Milledge and Nyjer Morgan have played in?

The Lerners improvements have been instances of them "being in it to the end" a couple times. Not good enough - end of story. They've spent money on draft picks, but so do the Pirates.

Posted by: Kev29 | September 23, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Torii Hunter??!?!?!?! Hahahahaha, really? Torii Hunter?

The same Torii Hunter who was recently moved to right field because he couldn't hack it in center field anymore?

If anything you should thank current ownership for not getting Hunter.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 23, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Look at that lineup.... ladies and gentlemen, your 2011 Washington Nationals!

Posted by: comish4lif | September 23, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I think we all realize that the job of running a MLB team--whether it be owner, president, GM or manager--is far more complex than we often make it out to be (i.e., we are able to criticize, rant, vent, celebrate, etc. here without consequence or actually having to make any decisions ourselves--and that's the way it should be), so the final analysis of Kasten's tenure with the Nats will only become known over time. I do think, though, he's put some good infrastructure into a team that had been mercilessly gutted by Selig and his buddies like Angelos when it arrived in DC. We'll see where that infrastructure takes us. In any case, his departure does bring back for a moment mental images of those buoyant days only a few years ago when baseball returned to DC and we didn't care what kind of team was on the field as long as it was our team. So this Nats fan, at least, wishes Stan good luck in his future endeavors and remains hopeful that the pieces he has put into place here will help to bring us success in years to come.

Posted by: thelonghaul | September 23, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Bye Adam!
You made this team slightly fun to watch for 2 years now. I hope you get the long term deal you're after.

Posted by: jbanks979 | September 23, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the same Torii Hunter that's won 9 straight gold gloves.

Posted by: Kev29 | September 23, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Morse has 13 home runs in limited plate appearances. I still don't understand why the Nationals don't move him to first base and see if Morse fits in there.

He has a better glove and better quickness than Dunn, and if given the at-bats that some of the regulars have had might be able to hit 25 home runs with a .280 average.

That's enough at first base if we are getting better than average productivity at the plate from 3b, SS and C, which are traditionally the bottom of the order.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | September 23, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

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