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Game 148 discussion thread: Nationals at Phillies

The large hole the Nationals quickly fell into last night overshadowed pretty much everything else that happened. But one of the noteworthy developments came at first base. Adam Dunn made one diving play along the foul line and scooped three balls in the dirt. It was a flawless, excellent day for Dunn, who is rated by advanced statistics as one of the worst first basemen in baseball.

"Last night was an indication of what we thought all along: He's getting better," Manager Jim Riggleman said. "I think last night was his best defensive game that we've seen. That ball that he caught along the first base line, I thought that ball was foul. That's showing some range, there. I was getting ready to come out of the dugout and argue, 'That ball's foul.' But he caught. I said, 'I won't argue.' "

Tonight, the first step for the Nationals will be avoiding another first-inning mess. Jordan Zimmermann, brilliant in one of his three starts, suffered another uneven outing his last time out. Zimmermann figures to have some support, because the Nationals have drilled Phillies start Kyle Kendrick this season. In three starts and 11 1/3 innings against the Nationals this year, Kendrick has a 12.71 ERA and a 1.129 OPS.

Nats bench coach John McLaren will not likely be here tonight. He attended the funeral for longtime scout Al Lamacchia today. There's a chance he'll make it back for part of the game, but Rick Eckstein will probably perform McLaren's duties

Talk about the game right here.

By Adam Kilgore  |  September 18, 2010; 6:45 PM ET
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How many runs do the Natinals lose by tonight?


Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 18, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

How many runs do the O's lose by tonite??? And it won't take a 9th inning homer to do it?????

Posted by: pentagon40 | September 18, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

McPoop is fired up for sure...While I'm here I have to mention a statement Riggleman made to the media after yesterdays' game...It just reinforces my claim that he should not be retained next year but that's probably a it is

"He wasn't very lucky tonite..we've got a lot of faith in him" in referring to Marquis.....well I don't have a lot of faith in Riggleman....

Posted by: pentagon40 | September 18, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: dargregmag | September 18, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Nah, one of Poopy's kids has diarrhea ... the stink is affecting his brain.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Maxwell: AAAA

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

the only stink affecting anything is the stench of failure coming from the Natinals organization.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 18, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

and Poopy sure knows what he is talking about since the O's are such a great organization. What this there 14th straight year with a losing record. Poopy don't talk bad about the Nats because the O's suck and will always suck

Posted by: forever211 | September 18, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we can send in McPoop in relief.

Posted by: SorenKierkegaard | September 18, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Poopy is a troll ... they are only good for mopping up excrement.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Zimmmermann does not look good at all.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Three HR for the Phillies so far. I am going to go do something else for awhile rather than watching bad baseball.

Posted by: NatsFly | September 18, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse
Come on...
The only relationship he probably has is with his left (or right) palm...

Posted by: TimDz | September 18, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Poopy also calls himself albert_haynesworth on the RI blog.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

@MCPOOP...I'M not the smartest guy but maybe you can answer this question...when Sabathia wins his 20th tonite, does that mean the Orioles lost???? Just asking...inquiring minds want to know....

Posted by: pentagon40 | September 18, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, this can't go on. They cannot rely on the starting pitching staff as it currently stands?

Only Livo? Yuneski Maya looks like he has the potential to be very good ... and then Lannan? Not sure but this does not look good.

Have to figure some real wheeling and dealing will occur in the offseason.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

McPoop...6 now in Balt...

Posted by: pentagon40 | September 18, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm not normally overly critical of the Nats players and coaches, but something I have noticed is finally bugging me too much to stay quiet. The Nats pitchers and catchers either don't know how, are afraid, or refuse to pitch inside and McCatty/Riggleman are doing nothing to change that. Our pitchers will continue to get shelled so long as they don't pitch inside regularly.

Posted by: FormerlyBlue | September 18, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm as disappointed as anyone with J. Zimm's performance tonight and since coming back to the majors, but let's two points in mind:

1) This is, in essence, the end of his rookie year. Tonight marks his 21st year, pretty much in line with what you'd get in a rookie season. It's not surprising he's struggling as a rookie.

2) It takes time to get your act together after Tommy John surgery. That's why they give you a timetable of 12-18 months. The real evaluation point for him will be spring training.

Posted by: baltova1 | September 18, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

baltova1: I am assuming you mean his 21st START?

Posted by: TimDz | September 18, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

McPoop...Yankees have won 89...O's have lost 89....soon to be 90 in about an hour or less....that's 90 for both teams....

Posted by: pentagon40 | September 18, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

TimDz, yes, thanks. 21st start. In his 24th year.

BTW, I think I'm turning into a crotchety old man but I think Ryan Howard enjoyed that cheap home run a little too much for my taste. Maybe he was laughing about the fact he barely got it over the fence, but it ticked me off. I remember fondly the days that stuff would earn you a fastball in the ribs...

Posted by: baltova1 | September 18, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

baltova1: Not so much crotchety, but maybe frustrated by a long season?
I know I'm there...
I agree with you that Howard was a bit disrespectful there and, if not one to the ribs, at least one high and tight...aka chin music...

Posted by: TimDz | September 18, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Natinals still getting destroyed huh?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 18, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey poopy how bout those winning O's. Oh wait there still losing by 4

Posted by: forever211 | September 18, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey this is a Natinals blog, why you all worried about the O's?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 18, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh that's right, b/c the O's are the better team.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 18, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Sad little troll ... thinks if he says something enough times it will come true.
Still four games back, and the clock is tickin.

Posted by: mjhoya12 | September 18, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Every needs to back off of Poopy... he is a bit stressed....
He's still two people short of a threesome...

Posted by: TimDz | September 18, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

You know, the more I think about that "Buy 2, Get 2" deal, it really amazes me (especially while watching a team play in a stadium that sells out all the time). They're willing to give away as many tickets as they're selling in the deal, which means they must not expect to sell many full season ticket packages.

And it's just never a good sign when you discount your product that much, especially when the next season is this far away.

Kinda makes you wonder just how far they're going to go to improve the team in the offseason. I mean, if you were going to make some big moves to make the team better, why give away tickets now, tickets you could end up selling when we get all fired up over these great new players?

Man, I'm really crotchety tonight...

Posted by: baltova1 | September 18, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

sorry Baltva1 but the Natinals don't even come close "Selling out all the time"

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 18, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Um, yeah, thanks for that, Poopy, that will be real meaningful (and as usual, almost funny) if it weren't for the fact that I was watching the Nats play in Philadelphia tonight.

Posted by: baltova1 | September 18, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Minute Maid Park and Citizens Bank Park, the miniature golf of baseball. When the Phillies go back to being doormats in 5 years or so (as we admittedly are now), they should put a big clown's mouth out in left field for the boys to aim at.

Posted by: thelonghaul | September 18, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

ArenaBall at Citizens Bank Park = Hit two homers, get a free game.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 18, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Would someone tell me again how turning Alfonso Soriano into Jordan Zimmermann has worked out? And now we're going to do the same thing with Dunn?? And since this management group has such a swell track record, well I'm sure that'll work out real well.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Oh and how did the Karma work out for Mr. Marquis last night?

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 18, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

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