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Nyjer Morgan apparently appealing suspension

While nothing formal has been announced, Nyjer Morgan apparently, will appeal his suspension, because he is in center field and leading off for the Nationals.

Also, Danny Espinosa - who worked with Jim Riggleman and Pat Listach at second base four hours before the game - is making his first career start. The full lineup:

1. Nyjer Morgan, CF
2. Ian Desmond, SS
3. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
4. Adam Dunn, 1B
5. Michael Morse, RF
6. Ivan Rodriguez, C
7. Justin Maxwell, LF
8. Danny Espinosa, 2B
9. Livan Hernandez, SP

By Adam Kilgore  |  September 3, 2010; 3:04 PM ET
 
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What a bozo for both Nyjer and the Nationals.

I find it very insulting that Nyjer would have the nerve to fight this latest sentence.
I also find it hard to believe that the Nationals would allow him to do this.

Yes Nyjer was a victim of those pitches but he didn't have to charge the mound. Nyjer didn't have to verbally abuse the fans, Nyjer didn't have to go out of his way to tell the media that he would do this all over again and what he did was justified and right.
BULL

Nyjer you have become an embarrassment and now the Nats are letting him do this????
Does anyone have some common sense in the Nats office from Riggleman on up to say, sorry Nyjer you went too far.

Anyone read the comments on this board, Nats.Com, Nats insider and MASN. The fan mail, if you would call this fan mail runs about 3 to 4 that people hate what Nyjer has done and hate what is happening to this team.

With this, having no Stephen Strasburg for 2011 and the Rob Dibble firing a lot of people are going to reconsider their purchase of Nats tickets for not only the rest of the year but also 2011. I have to think that for the front office people after the years of working there butts off they need to be ashamed of all this. It's a black eye on the way the Nats are now doing business, even to the fact that they have the bad luck with Strasburg blowing his arm off.

Somebody in the Nats front office better be reading all of these posts and realize that they are going to piss fans off even more if they allow Nyjer to get away with this.

I have even lost faith in Riggleman and now feel that the club's not that great, we better look for a new manager after this month.

NATS MANAGEMENT, READ THESE POSTS, WE HATE THIS CRAP!!!!!
ALL WE WANT IS A FUN TEAM AGAIN, WITH FUN PEOPLE ANNOUNCING IT AND TELLING IT LIKE IT IS AND WE DON"T WANT NYJER ANYMORE.

Posted by: Golfersal | September 3, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

What a circus.

Posted by: SuzNats | September 3, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that the Nats are allowed to forbid Nyjer from exercising any of the rights he has as a player under the CBA. I suppose next you'll be arguing that stupid people shouldn't be allowed all their constitutional rights just because they're stupid?

Posted by: FeelWood | September 3, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Hold on there, Sparky. Take a breath.

I don't even disagree with you on a lot of that, but appealing a suspension is Baseball 101. Everybody does it.

Posted by: gonatsgo1 | September 3, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Golfersal, get your facts straight.

The Nationals have absolutely no say whatsoever over whether or not Nyjer appeals his suspension. His ability to appeal the suspension stems from the CBA and is a provision insisted upon by the players union, not the teams, management, or ownership. You will often see teams on the same side as their players because they don't want the player to miss time, but the right to appeal is an individual one. Indeed, you'll be able to tell a lot by how the team does or does not address the topic of the appeal with the media in the coming days.

Posted by: faNATic | September 3, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Besides, Nyjer wants to be able to play in front of his old Pirates peeps this weekend. Heh.

Posted by: gonatsgo1 | September 3, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

My concern is that Nyjer will do something REALLY stupid tonight. And I don't mean just a stupid baseball action.

Posted by: swanni | September 3, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Morgan can appeal all he wants. But for the Nats to play him in light of everything that has happened and to have him leading off shows what a joke the Nats management has become.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

BTW I thought double-switch Riggleman was beginning his suspension tonight. What's he doing at the Park? Or is that allowed.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

He's only suspended from managing -- they can't banish him from being at the park. Yeah, it begins tonight. Johnny Mac is skipper.

Posted by: gonatsgo1 | September 3, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

The Nationals have almost certainly been notified by Nyjer's agent of his intention to file a grievance if he is benched prior to his appeal. They really don't have much choice in this matter as they have to negotiate for free agents and they can't afford to be portrayed as not supporting their players. He will be suspended after his appeal and won't be back again this year,or hopefully ever.

Posted by: wellscats | September 3, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

So with all ranting and raving over the past 2 days (myself included of course) I'm wondering where oh where is 1A?
I'm missin' the calmer, positive, reasoned & centered voice of NJ.

Back to the ranting....

Posted by: Sunderland | September 3, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

The Nats are simply beyond right now.

Lerners, Kasten, Rizzo, they're running quite a ship.

YOUR WASHINGTON NATIONALS. LAST IN STANDINGS. FIRST IN SUSPENSIONS!!

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

But at least they canned Dibble. Right?
Yea sure.

Hmm Canned Dibble. Sounds like a delicasy.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse


Keep Nyjer Morgan. Only completely lame players let a pitcher throw at them twice.

It was clear that Dibble would not make it in this milktoast town. Look at the Redskins relationship with Riggins.

Posted by: golo1 | September 3, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of all this Morganmania. I'm ready to see the first start of our DP tandem for the next 10 years.* Welcome Mr. Espinosa to the starting lineup. Have a seat Mr. Kennedy.

*Providing Desmond learns to make the routine plays and continues to learn not to make impossible throws and Espinosa turns out to be as good as he now seems. End of hedging.

Posted by: mojo6 | September 3, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

And I'm appealing that the cute blond supermodel turned me down for a date. Is that how it works?

Posted by: SCNatsFan | September 3, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Every reasonable commentator from MASN to Comcast to SI to ESPN has basically said the same thing: Nyger Morgan has some real serious issues/problems. Yet the Nats don't even have the good or common sense to sit this guy down. How on earth can they justify trotting him out there tonight leading off? It defies all logic.
This team is completely leaderless and rudderless.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Suspension, appeal, what have you, it's hard to believe anyone feels like Morgan is one of the eight guys that give our team the best chance to win tonight's game. I usually have a very long leash with players who aren't producing, but I feel like the time is now to explore other options.

Posted by: mjhoya12 | September 3, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Well, I agree with the gist of the earlier posts here. So I should shut up, right?

Posted by: JohnRDC | September 3, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

>>(concerning Morgan) I feel like the time is now to explore other options.Posted by: mjhoya12

Ya think?

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The Nationals Organization needs to DFA Morgan as soon as possible and find a replacement for Riggleman. It is obvious that he doesn't know how to manage personnel and maybe not a major league ball club. Starting Morgan only serves to validate his bizaare and erratic behavior. We are supposed to have a professional baseball team in Washington, not a team run by the inmates. Frank Robinson was right to fine Riggleman for his unprofessional actions.

Posted by: jjburns1 | September 3, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Re jjburns1, is it Bob Watson or FRobby in charge of these suspensions?

You notice Rigs is sticking with Nyjer in the lineup--Bernie sits. Nyjer is Rigs' man--in CF and at the top of the lineup. If Rigs returns next year--and Rizzo has indicated he will--no reason to think that Nyjer won't return in those roles also. He is apparently in Rigs' eyes the pole star around which the rest of the OF rotates. Is a lefty starting for Pittsburgh? Never mind, not even worth asking.

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | September 3, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Jim Riggleman has proven to be Manny Acta bad. That's quite a twosome and quite an accomplishment by the Nats management. The Nats leadership qroup has proven to be, aside from the Pirates, possibly and probably, the worst organization in all of baseball. This team is going nowhere fast--last year--this year--next year......

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but someone has to be the voice of some reason here. Has he made some boneheaded plays, yes. But what happened in Fla. on Wed. was NOT repeat NOT grounds for abandoning Nyjer. He was defending himself AND his teammates. Remember, 2 others ALREADY had been hit before he was hit. And then the Fish threw at him AGAIN. Who hell do the Marlins think they are -- that's vigilante justice going way too far.

What kind of team would lay down and take that? Frankly, I'd be more pissed if the Nats -- already too lackadaisical most days -- rolled over and played dead yet again after that kind of beat-down. At some point you have to stand up for yourself. And let's all be honest, if that brawl hadn't happened, no one would be saying Nyjer shouldn't be in the lineup tonight. So by going crazy about cutting him now, you're essentially saying that the brawl was his fault.

Regardless, we need some fans around here that are willing to stand with our guys -- especially when they're cornered. Sheesh.

Posted by: cdstej | September 3, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

>>Sorry, but someone has to be the voice of some reason here. Posted by: cdstej

Yea you're right. Big mean ole Major League Baseball is simply out of touch and delusional for levying its 8-game ban on poor ole Mr. Morgan. He's just picked upon.
BTW CD, miss your meds today?

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

>>Sorry, but someone has to be the voice of some reason here. Posted by: cdstej

Yea you're right. Big mean ole Major League Baseball is simply out of touch and delusional for levying its 8-game ban on poor ole Mr. Morgan. He's just picked upon.
BTW CD, miss your meds today?

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse


Did you even read his post? He didn't say Nyjer shouldn't be suspended. He's saying Nyjer had every right to go after the pitcher, and I agree.

Posted by: Rusty6392 | September 3, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Seriously the Nats are simply too dumb to even comprehend right now. Fire Dibble, play Morgan. Yea play the guy who just received his 2nd suspension in a one week period totaling, uh I dunno, 15 games?? But what the heck, while he's protesting them, don't just start him, but lead him off. Like someone much smarter than me already said, way to validate completely insane behavior.
I'm out.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I hate to see Maxwell in the line-up, despite his two hits Wednesday (does that double his yearly total)? But I guess we had to put him in, given that we couldn't let that starting outfielder into the game given his recent behavior. Boy, that Bernadina's been an embarrassment...Oh, wait a minute

Posted by: elijah383 | September 3, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Did you even read his post? He didn't say Nyjer shouldn't be suspended. He's saying Nyjer had every right to go after the pitcher, and I agree.Posted by: Rusty6392


If he had every right to go after the pitcher, why was he suspended? Obviously MLB and an 8-game suspension along with a few others, don't agree.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

>>Sorry, but someone has to be the voice of some reason here. Posted by: cdstej

Yea you're right. Big mean ole Major League Baseball is simply out of touch and delusional for levying its 8-game ban on poor ole Mr. Morgan. He's just picked upon.
BTW CD, miss your meds today?

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse
****

I'm not talking about MLB's reaction -- I'm talking about the reaction by the team's supposed fans. What pains me is fans turning their backs on one of their own over an incident where, as far as I'm concerned, the player was not in the wrong. Heck even two Marlins admitted that he was only considered "dirty" because of the St. Louis incident, NOT because of the hit on their own catcher. Again, since when are the Marlins the self-appointed commisars of justice?

I'm glad Nyjer is appealing, and I'm glad his team at least is sticking by him when they're attacked together.

Now a debate about whether he starts in CF next year is a whole nother story -- and one we'll no doubt have this winter. But the prevailing sentiment here -- DFA him now -- is painful to a true fan.

Posted by: cdstej | September 3, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

This is a show of support by Riggleman--the "players' manager" and all-around nice guy strikes again.

Unless of course there's actual baseball logic to leading off a guy who has behaving like Nyjer against a lefty, who he's batting below .230 against this year.

Still, I guess it coulda been Mench in left, Maxwell in center...uhhh....

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=124

Posted by: CJArlington | September 3, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

cdstej said:
"And let's all be honest, if that brawl hadn't happened, no one would be saying Nyjer shouldn't be in the lineup tonight.'

***********

Sorry, dude, but there are plenty of people, myself included, who think the Nats would be a better team without Nyjer, and this has nothing to do with the fight, suspension, etc.

He's just a bad baseball player.
He doesn't get on base at a reasonable rate. he certinly doesn't hit for any power. He leads the league in caught stealing.
Look at the lineup up top, he's got the weakest arm of anyone in that lineup (well, except Livo of course). He has a terrible arm for a centerfielder.

He has lousy baseball instincts, he makes bad decisions and mental errors way more than should be tollerated.

I would love to see a lot less of him, based purely on his baseball skills.

Posted by: Sunderland | September 3, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

"Sorry, but someone has to be the voice of some reason here ... we need some fans around here that are willing to stand with our guys ..."

You might want to check out the difference between "standing with" and "enabling."

Morgan was going to get a few games for charging the mound no matter what. A few more for the WWE display on the way to the dugout were also a given. After a pair of gratuitous home plate collisions in a week, one of which separated a shoulder, they were going to be on the high end of "a few," so eight is no surprise. Appealing the suspension is kind of ridiculous, but I guess it's pretty much pro forma. Fine.

But all the "I was right and I'd do it again" talk coupled with sub-mediocre game performance really should be enough to keep him off the field. Let his agent file a grievance, it won't be tough to beat. And I would imagine the kid-glove treatment of this loose cannon is hurting the Nats with more free agents than it's helping with. I have to believe a good portion of our clubhouse is pretty sick of being associated with him at this point.

Posted by: zimbar | September 3, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

according to the cba, morgan has the right to appeal his suspensions. which is what he has done, or will do. it doesn't really matter whether fans like it or not. if seeing morgan play cf tonight truly offends you, turn to the AL game tonight and skip the nats. you have options. to those who think morgan is some kind of dirty mcnasty type of guy, let's say he didn't charge the mound after FL pitcher used national hitters as target practice, would the other teams look and them with more or less respect? i say less, because you can only be punished once for your infraction. clearly FL didn't see it that way and thought it was free rein on hitting nats. if they just stood there and took it, they would be the laughing stock of baseball. i'm sure some of the folks here on this page would be thinking of a spin to make that morgan's fault too. lay off morgan. he's either going to sit out the last couple of weeks of the season on suspension, or the 1st couple of weeks next season. in the mean time..... play ball!!

Posted by: joerutgens72 | September 3, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

ctsdej,

FWIW, I would have liked to have seen Nyjer out of CF and on the bench a long time ago. The only reason he should be playing even some of the time now IMO is Willingham's injury.

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | September 3, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Later peeps. I've wasted to much energy and to many words on our dummy CF and our moronic manager. Let's leave on a positive note: Welcome Danny E and Go M-squared. You guys deserve some positive pub.
Good weekend all.
Out.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Later peeps. I've wasted to much energy and to many words on our dummy CF and our moronic manager. Let's leave on a positive note: Welcome Danny E and Go M-squared. You guys deserve some positive pub.
Good weekend all.
Out.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 5:03 P

Is that a promise, out for the weekend? Whew, you really pumped out the bile today.
If all of this bothers you that much you should probably stick with the wonderful exploits of the team in your monicker.

Posted by: Natmeister | September 3, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

What is the basis for his appeal. Did somebody lose the video tapes of the game? His best argument is that he is dumb beyond belief and can't make rational decisions. He probably learned that from Riggleman -- that lifelong loser.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | September 3, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the issue of Dibbles firing is not the best place to pull out the I WILL NOT RENEW MY SEASON TICKETS screed.

Since to have seen Dibble you would have been at home watching on a network that has held the Nationals hostage from day one.

Posted by: CBinDC | September 3, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Pyscho Morgan and Clueless/Gutless Retread Riggleman have got to be cut out of this LOSER organization...Morgan has become an embarassment...and Riggleman ,standing clueless on the dugout steps every game...has become the team symbol for HOPELESSNESS......with a team in a COMA....

Posted by: FletcherChristian1 | September 3, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

what baseball team lets another throw at the players 3 times in one game, also the nats where slow coming to the defense of one of their own, the 1st one out was the third base coach,this team is used to being a lovable loser.

Posted by: cdixon54 | September 3, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Later peeps. I've wasted to much energy and to many words on our dummy CF and our moronic manager. Let's leave on a positive note: Welcome Danny E and Go M-squared. You guys deserve some positive pub.
Good weekend all.
Out.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | September 3, 2010 5:03 P

Is that a promise, out for the weekend? Whew, you really pumped out the bile today.
If all of this bothers you that much you should probably stick with the wonderful exploits of the team in your monicker.


Posted by: Natmeister | September 3, 2010 5:11 PM |
____________________

And while you're at it, save a seat for FletcherChristian1. The two of you can rant and rave all you want...

Posted by: TimDz | September 3, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Morgan is a problem not because he is a hot head but because he is an air head. Maybe he'll hit, run, catch and throw a little better next year, but he won't get smarter, not at age 30 or whatever he is.
I'm not sure that we should dump him (though I don't oppose it outright), but I don't think he should start.

Posted by: jdsp2000 | September 3, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I know Morgan's under team control next year, but I am betting that they don't tender him an offer.

Posted by: TimDz | September 3, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the brouhaha re. Tony Plush; though I must say that any MLB player assessed a suspension for such a significant length of time would be foolish not to appeal, I'm stoked to see Espinosa in the starting line up. Things continue to look up!

Posted by: mgilham | September 3, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Nyger Morgan is becoming the Tanja Harding of baseball. What's the over-under on another incident tonight, against the team that got rid of him last year? I feel like I am getting ready to watch a car accident.

Posted by: ammonite88 | September 3, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

"I feel like I am getting ready to watch a car accident."

Yep. That's what I expect with him back in the lineup. I wonder what has gone on behind the scenes with regard to anyone with the Nationals front office speaking to him. I'm sure something else will happen with him playing in Pittsburgh this weekend. Should be a treat, except for the other player(s) caught up in it.

Posted by: samantha7 | September 3, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

If Nyjer was playing baseball worth a damn, I'd be a lot more willing to support him. But with his league leading pick-offs and caught-stealing, below average OPS and BA, and below average fielding, why put up with the drama and BS?? Despite Riggs' lefty-righty matchup drills, the best three OFs on this team are Willingham, Bernadina and Morse. With Hammer's injury, I'd still take Maxwell over Morgan. About the same offense, better defense and better attitude. The future OF includes Harper...so Morgan still doesn't have a shot. Cut him now and let some of the minor leaguers try out for their future jobs.

Posted by: g3jr | September 3, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

At this point Maxwell is the an equal offensive option and better defensive option over Nyjer.

Nyjer has a .317 OBP (.276 in August), is the 2nd worst CF in the game for making misplays this season according to Dewan, and is generally a pathetic little thug.

Maxwell has a .306 OBP and is a great defensive player all the time.

The fact that Riggleman is running this goon out there as the leadoff guy again is pathetic and should cost him his job immediately. It's time for Rizzo to DFA Nyjer and either trade him or cut him depending on whether or not he gets a trade offer in the 10 day time frame.

Posted by: TheJoeGreene | September 3, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Man, you guys are fired up tonight. I think you all need to do a little pre-game meditation session. That way, when Nyjer leads off the game by pointing to center field and guaranteeing a homer, strikes out and then throws his bat into the crowd, hitting a nun, your heads won't explode...

Posted by: baltova1 | September 3, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Pre-game meditation or medication? Serenity Now!!

Posted by: Natmeister | September 3, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Okay, what does the free agent outfielder crop look like this off season?

(...and please don't say "Austin Kearns.")

Posted by: gilbertbp | September 3, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the prescription....I'm on self-medication #2...

Posted by: g3jr | September 3, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

That way, when Nyjer leads off the game by pointing to center field and guaranteeing a homer, strikes out and then throws his bat into the crowd, hitting a nun, your heads won't explode...

Posted by: baltova1 | September 3, 2010 6:38 PM

That way, when Nyjer leads off the game by pointing to center field and guaranteeing a homer, hits into a triple play* and then throws a hand grenade into the crowd, killing a crippled nun, your heads won't explode...

Fixed for truthiness.

*Don't ask me how he hits into a leadoff triple play - he'll find a way...

Posted by: gilbertbp | September 3, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Well played baltova.
But you know nuns don't go to Pirates games. Too much temptation to curse.

Posted by: Sunderland | September 3, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Just checked my meds -- out of beer, will have to get by on Maker's Mark. Could be a short evening, hope the Nat's score early and Livo pitches a shutout.

Posted by: Natmeister | September 3, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Free agent outfielders this offseason include Carl Crawford and Jason Werth.

Posted by: jdsp2000 | September 3, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

@Natmeister: You still have about ten minutes...

Posted by: TimDz | September 3, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

lol Sunderland...

Posted by: g3jr | September 3, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Free agent outfielders this offseason include Carl Crawford and Jason Werth.

Posted by: jdsp2000 | September 3, 2010 7:00 PM
________________________

In a related story, Jennifer Aniston is looking for a new roommate...maybe I should give her a call.

Posted by: TimDz | September 3, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Morgan should be in friendly territory in Pittsburgh. He might have sat down if we were in any other town.

I hope he steals. Nobody tells us when we run and when we don't run. That was Riggleman's finest line this week. Maybe his only good one. The chat around the country on national boards seems not to be blaming the Marlins at all, and I can't stand that.

Posted by: poncedeleroy | September 3, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Dream big, live big, TimDz! LOL

Posted by: jdsp2000 | September 3, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

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