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The Nationals could pursue Yu Darvish

Given the thin market for top-shelf starting pitching, the Nationals may have to be creative in how they achieve General Manager Mike Rizzo's goal of landing a frontline starter. They could accomplish that and provide proof they've improved their international scouting effort with one move: pursuing Japanese pitcher Yu Darvish.

It would be speculative at this point to gauge the Nationals' interest in Darvish, but he is on their radar. Nationals scouts have seen Darvish pitch in person at least nine times, including several games in Japan, and they have been impressed enough to recommend to the front office that he is worth trying to sign.

Last year, the Nationals showed their willingness to pursue top international when they offered $25 million to Cuban flamethrower Aroldis Chapman, a bid that finished second to the Reds' bid of $30 million.

Darvish, according to multiple reports, is likely to come available this offseason by his team, Nippon Ham Fighters, entering him into the "posting" system, wherein major league teams bid to pay Nippon for the right to negotiate with - and presumably sign - Darvish.

How much it would cost to win the bid is "the $64,000 question," one major league scout said. Some reports have speculated it will take roughly $25 million to win the bid, which would come before actually signing the pitcher.

Darvish, 23, has been absurdly dominant in his Nippon Professional Baseball, better than any of the numerous pitchers who have made the transition from Japanese baseball to the majors. In the past five years, Darvish has more strikeouts (921) than hits and walks allowed combined (911) in 941 innings. Take a look at his stats since 2006, when he 19:

2006: 149 2/3 IP, 115 K, 64 BB, 1.28 WHIP, 2.89 ERA
2007: 207 2/3 IP, 210 K, 49 BB, 0.83 WHIP, 1.82 ERA
2008: 200 2/3 IP, 208 K, 44 BB, 0.90 WHIP, 1.88 ERA
2009: 182 IP, 167 K, 45 BB, 0.90 WHIP, 1.73 ERA
2010: 201 IP, 221 K, 47 BB, 1.01 WHIP, 1.79 ERA

If you're interested in more on Darvish's unique background, read Patrick Newman and Jeff Passan on him.

By Adam Kilgore  | October 1, 2010; 2:15 PM ET
 
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Great stats, cool name... it will be great watching him pitch for the Yankees or Red Sox next year...

Posted by: Ghost7 | October 1, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

He'll be an O. Book it.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 1, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

As much as I would love to have him, I just don't see the learners shelling out the $60,000,000 it will take to sign him.

Posted by: hansenjo | October 1, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Yu's on the mound, but Who's on first?

Posted by: poncedeleroy | October 1, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Yu's on the mound, but Who's on first?"

yu maya

Posted by: sjt1455 | October 1, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Oh no, you didn't. ;-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 1, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey poopy do you post on this site because they kicked you off the 0's site for being an id10t?

Stay with your own kind. Birds of a feather flock together. Or is that losers.

Posted by: natsguy | October 1, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Call to the bullpen.

Get someone up.

Why? Wossamotta Yu?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 1, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Call to the bullpen.

Get someone up.

Why? Whatsamatta Yu?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 1, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

oops. Thought the first one was lost in cyberspace...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 1, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Japanese imports do not count as true Aces in MLB until they have come over and performed like true Aces in MLB. The Nats need a true Ace not some guy with great numbers in Japan that may or may not have knock out stuff in this hemisphere. Nice thought and all, but Darvish, even if they got him, does not fit the bill.

Posted by: dfh21 | October 1, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Kilgore, how about simply printing a story when the Nat actually sign somebody instead of a whole lotta wasted stories about speculative interest that will never come to fruition for the obvious reasons. That way you'll save your readers a whole lotta grief.
(Hey I'd like to own a porsche but it aint gonna happen. And there's really no reason to waste other people's time with my frivolous dreams.)

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | October 1, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Frigging trolls.

I think the rest of us enjoy reading about baseball and the people who may or may not be signed by the Nats or any other club.

Posted by: RireGrist | October 1, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

This guy at least has a chance to become a fine SP. Worth a shot. The Nats can't afford to pass someone by because he is not a guaranteed staff ace.

Posted by: EdDC | October 1, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I like the speculation AK. Why not. The who they should/could/might/hadbetternot get stuff is fun.

Posted by: dfh21 | October 1, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Mr. 22, don't take this wrong, but that's silly. He's a reporter. This is a blog. The story is too long for Twitter, so it's here. It'll be news, and in the paper, when it happens, but til then, don't make AK responsible for what you do with your hopes.
Virtually everyone else wants more, not less.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 1, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

EdDc - -I see it as the nats not being able to blow $25+Mon a guy who may not be able to perform. They need more of a lock.

Posted by: dfh21 | October 1, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

It does seem unlikely they're going to pony up for this, but somebody will. Hey, do you think we could get Chico to weigh in on this Darvish kid? And while I'm at it, where is he from? Darvish isn't a Japanese name (at least not spelled that way, it ain't).

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 1, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

@dfh21:
I don't see what makes Darvish any less of an MLB pitching prospect than any of the other hopefuls we already have who don't yet have 200 IP or 15 wins or sub 4.00 ERA in a full season. And that includes Strasburg.

Posted by: bertbkatz | October 1, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Ah. "Persian." I should have figured that.

Yu Darvish (also spelled Yū Darvish) (Japanese: ダルビッシュ 有, Persian: یو درویش, full name Yu Darvishsefad;[1] born August 16, 1986, in Habikino, Osaka) is a Persian Japanese starting pitcher for the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu_Darvish

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 1, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

And there's really no reason to waste other people's time with my frivolous dreams.)

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | October 1, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse
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Seriously, this competes with everything Poop posts for first prize in the utter lack of self-awareness department. If you guys are the least bit concerned with wasting other people's time, please, please slink away so that we all don't have to put up with your drivel.

Of course, that ain't gonna happen any more than you're gonna get that Porsche.

Posted by: cdstej | October 1, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

While I would seriously love to see Darvish in a Nats uniform as a three-man rotation with Strasburg and Zimmermann someday, I have trouble seeing the Lerners outbidding the Yankees and Red Sox for his services.

Posted by: Juan-John1 | October 1, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Zero chance

Posted by: swanni | October 1, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Call to the bullpen.

Get someone up.

Why? Whatsamatta Yu?

______________________

That was his college team...

Posted by: TimDz | October 1, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

If he's as good as they say he is, somebody will outbid us. The whole system in Japan is retarded. I understand wanting to protect local talent and trying to keep them all from coming to the US for more money, but having to bid millions just for the right to negotiate is ridiculous. Why any team pays that insane fee is beyond me. The overwhelming majority of the time it hasn't been worth it.

Posted by: futbolclif | October 1, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Lou: So who's pitching?
Bud: No, Hu is at second now.
Lou: So you won't tell me who's pitching?
Bud: Why would I lie? The pitcher is Yu.
Lou: *I'M* pitching??
Bud: Don't be ridiculous. We need an top guy, an ace. But Yu could cost them a lot of money.
Lou: Not at all! I work cheap.
Bud: Really? How cheap?
Lou: I'll work for a buck.
Bud: He's on another team.
Lou: Who is?
Bud: Hu is with the Dodgers. We want Yu!

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 1, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Sec3 (and everyone), check out the links at the end of Adam's post, especially the second one. Really interesting.

Posted by: skidge | October 1, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

>>Of course, that ain't gonna happen any more than you're gonna get that Porsche.Posted by: cdstej

Ah but don't worry. I will offer just enough to not only get the dealers attention but to also just fall short of the required price needed to purchase. But then at least I can tell everyone I offered a huge chunk O change and that it was the mean ole dealers fault for not accepting my price.
Sound familiar?

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | October 1, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

No

Posted by: RireGrist | October 1, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Skidge, thanks for the recommendation (and seconded!) for the Jeff Passan article. Good read.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

cdstej, the scroll bar is your friend.

TimDz, exactly. :-)

sec3, thanks for the LOL, as always.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 1, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I hope Darvish is better than Maya, who appears to be an International signing bust.

Posted by: bupbups | October 1, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Is Yu Darvish related to Tammy Darvish. At least the Lerners can negotiate for a fleet of cars if they can't sign Yu and decide on the next best thing and see if Tammy Darvish can throw a few heaters!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | October 1, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Nice thought but, that would require the Lerners to actually spend some Friggin' money and that is just not happening.

In other words, Yu ain't coming to DC.

And please stop feeding the dumbass trolls. They are starving for attention so, if you don't feed them, they will dry up and blow away.

Posted by: Section505203 | October 1, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse


Glad to see he can throw in the 90s.

Is a hurling Darvish a whirling dervish?

Posted by: Drew8 | October 1, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

dfh21,

I see your point and agree.

It is just that the Nats' low-budget, low-risk, low-yield approach is so lackluster that I have to encourage something like this signing. Maya was low-risk while Chapman was high-risk. I would like the Nats to lean toward high risk just once. OK, maybe more than once, but once would be a start.

Posted by: EdDC | October 1, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

We don't need anymore unseen foreign pitchers. I think we have learned our lesson with Maya.

Posted by: MKadyman | October 1, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse


The announcers' worst nightmare:

Yu vs. Fukudome

Posted by: Drew8 | October 1, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

THE Yu Darvish??

Posted by: nb888 | October 1, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08Tvkm_xkU

This is a good video about Darvish, with interesting quotes from Bobby Valentine.

Posted by: Drew8 | October 1, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

There's nothing to be learned about Maya from what amounts to an extended spring training. Good sense will withhold judgement until next year, at the very earliest.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 1, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

LOL Drew!

sec3, good sense? Great googly moogly, these are the Interwebz, man!

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The announcers' worst nightmare:

Yu vs. Fukudome

Posted by: Drew8 | October 1, 2010 6:11 PM

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 2, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and adding the obligatory, "What are you guys, 12?" :-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 2, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

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