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Posted at 11:45 AM ET, 01/26/2011

Bryce Harper ranked No. 3 prospect in baseball

By Adam Kilgore

The Nationals farm system at the moment can be divided between Bryce Harper and everyone else, a fact reiterated by last night's MLB.com countdown of baseball's top 50 prospects. Harper, the 18-year-old outfielder picked first overall in last year's draft, was ranked the No. 3 prospect, the only Nationals player on the list.

Harper finished behind only Los Angeles Angels outfielder Mike Trout and Tampa Bay Rays right-handed starting pitcher Jeremy Hellickson. The Royals led the majors with six players on the list, all in the top 37. The Nationals were far from alone having one player in the top 50 - the Red Sox, for example, placed only outfielder Jose Iglesias, and he came in at No. 42.

Any ranking of prospects, of course, is a largely subjective matter. Last year, Baseball America ranked Nationals catching prospect and on-base machine Derek Norris as the No. 38 prospect in baseball; their full list will come out early in spring training. Most experts regard second baseman Danny Espinosa as the Nationals' second-best prospect behind Harper.

Harper, who skipped his senior year of high school in order to enroll in junior college and enter the draft early, received his first professional experience this autumn in the Arizona Fall League, where he became the second-youngest player in the league's history. Playing twice a week as part of the Scottsdale Scorpions' "taxi squad," Harper went 12 for 35 (.343) with three doubles, two triples, one home run, four walks and 11 strikeouts.

Harper will participate in the Nationals' major league camp during spring training. Barring a surprise, Harper will likely begin this season with Class A Hagerstown. His inclusion in the fall league was a sign that the Nationals will not hold back Harper as he develops in the minor leagues, so his success level will determine how far he progresses in the Nationals' system.

While we're here, one unrelated note: You've probably come across the idea about the Nationals' potentially trading the Indians for Grady Sizemore and/or Fausto Carmona. I haven't mentioned anything about it because, frankly, there's nothing going on there. A fun rumor to kick around, but Nats folks I've spoken with have been uniform in shooting it down.

By Adam Kilgore  | January 26, 2011; 11:45 AM ET
 
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Comments

FYI - Iglesias is a SS, not OF. I am surprised to see Norris fall out of the top 50 however.

Posted by: bzerante1 | January 26, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I was suprised at that too, his injury I think cost him his spot in the top 50.

I would not be suprised at a Indians trade since Manny is the Skipper and could give them a little inside knowlege. I would think he would love to have Lannan they were pretty close, I could also seeing him wanting Chris Marrero, and possibly Martis.

Posted by: hansenjo | January 26, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see the Orioles have more prospects in the Top-50 than the Natinals do.

Yet another thing, in a long list of them, that the Orioles do better than the Natinals.

Oh well, there's always 2035 Natinal fans.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 26, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

The juggernaut that is Kansas City has bragging rights there. Poor Boston--they must be a pretty lousy team.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | January 26, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, the Post doesn't care if their blogs are synonymous with 3rd-grade taunts. No reason why I should either.
Goodbye, Washington Post.

Posted by: mjhoya12 | January 26, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

We should bring SS, Espinosa and Desmond back to the minors so we have a stronger farm system because, as we all know, its all about how writers review ya.

mjhoya12, I agree. Spending less time here and more on other Nats blogs because of the trolls. Then again, I'd be excited if my team signed Lee and Gregg too because they are tickets to be above the Sox, Yanks and Rays. Thank God they they have the Jays to battle for 4th, although the Jays only whipped them by (ahem) 19 games last year for 4th place. If I was an Os fan I'd be posting on other teams blogs because I couldn't stand to read about their future.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | January 26, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I just read the Cleveland Plains Dealer to see if they had anything about the trade, the only thing they mention is the MASN article. The one thing I can tell you their fans are CRAZY, you think we complain about ownership and the Learners being cheap, they want to lynch their billionaire owner to hear them talk. They make Brue sound like loyalist, and P00PY_MCP00P intelligent.
Here is the link:
http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/01/pm_cleveland_indians_links_42.html

Posted by: hansenjo | January 26, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

add me to the list of those who spends less time here in the comment section - there is really nothing Adam or the Post can do about it - I will still read Adam's work which is appreciated but the idiotic comments and negativity are easily bypassed - Hope Brue and Poopy can enjoy each other

Go Nats!

Posted by: sjm3091 | January 26, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I think that this has to be a let down for the Nats. I would have expected, based upon the hype and the AFL stats and the big moeny paid, that Harper would be at least the No. 1 postion player. And after making building the farm job one for almost 5 years, you'd hopee that the Nats would have at least a few guys in the Top 50. (Boston has loads of talent that they have developed in the bigs now, the Nats do not. Desmond, Berndina, Zimmermann, Storen, Ramos and Espinosa may all turn out to be very solid MLB players, but the jury is certainly still way out on each of those guys.)

Posted by: dfh21 | January 26, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

>>Harper will participate in the Nationals' major league camp during spring training. Barring a surprise, Harper will likely begin this season with Class A Hagerstown. His inclusion in the fall league was a sign that the Nationals will not hold back Harper as he develops in the minor leagues, so his success level will determine how far he progresses in the Nationals' system.

I guess a surprise doesn't include:
12 for 35 (.343) with three doubles, two triples, one home run, four walks and 11 strikeouts.
I hereby banish thee to overnight greyhound buses, McDonald's three times a day, crappy fields, even worse lighting, wild pitchers who could quite possibly end your career, and players that wouldn't make the majors even if an atom bomb landed on Nats Park during a game. All in an effort to prove thee is ready for the big time/last place. They should have a statue of Pants at the park, and instead of three arms like Walter Johnson, he could have three faces.

Posted by: Brue | January 26, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

>I will still read Adam's work which is appreciated but the idiotic comments and negativity are easily bypassed - Hope Brue and Poopy can enjoy each other

Posted by: sjm3091

*sniveling and trembling in the corner of mommie's basement*

Posted by: Brue | January 26, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought: Maybe the Nats have so few prospects on the list because the team has been so miserable. Prospects who would otherwise still be in the minors if they were in a strong team's organization, are being brought up faster here.

Would Storen be getting a shot as the Yankees' closer if he were in their organization? Would the Yanks have Espinosa and Desmond playing short and second while Jeter and Cano are already there?

Posted by: gilbertbp | January 26, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

>Obviously, the Post doesn't care if their blogs are synonymous with 3rd-grade taunts. No reason why I should either.
Goodbye, Washington Post.

Posted by: mjhoya12

Goodbye cruel world! *shoulders heaving, shirt soaked*

Posted by: Brue | January 26, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Just for fun:
Espinosa 2b
Desmond ss
Zim 3b
Harper rf
Werth Lf
Ramos c
Laroche 1b
Brown cf

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | January 26, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

If Ramos is the catcher of the future and Norris is a hitting machine with bad receiving skills behind the plate why don't they move him to first and let him develop there?

Posted by: bigcountry22 | January 26, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

bigcountry -- I think taht you just hit upon why Norris is out of the Top 50 -- he hits a ton as a Catcher, as something like a 1B or LF? He's not so sterling.

Posted by: dfh21 | January 26, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Harper was going to be second but Riggleman pulled off a late double switch and he had to drop him down...(couldn't resist)...

Posted by: baltova1 | January 26, 2011 5:06 PM | Report abuse

"Nice to see the Orioles have more prospects in the Top-50 than the Natinals do. Yet another thing, in a long list of them, that the Orioles do better than the Natinals.

Oh well, there's always 2035 Natinal fans."

Poopy you must mean the Vegas Vivas? Instead of the Ori-hole bird a faux Elvis ... thank you very much ...

Its good to see the new Vegas franchise doing well!

Better than the local "Ballimer" fan support at the Innuah Habbah.

Posted by: periculum | January 26, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"All in an effort to prove thee is ready for the big time/last place. They should have a statue of Pants at the park, and instead of three arms like Walter Johnson, he could have three faces."

@Brue sometimes makes good points. This is one case where perhaps he isn't. Bure, it took Walter Johnson three years to become the HOF pitcher that he was. The first three would have been better spent in the minor leagues ... but back then it wasn't the best place for top talent to learn the trade, so he started in the majors.

Harper might not take as long. But he still needs to play every day, he still needs the skills required to be in the major leagues.

Posted by: periculum | January 26, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

>Harper might not take as long. But he still needs to play every day, he still needs the skills required to be in the major leagues.

Posted by: periculum

P did you see the top 50 prospects show on MLB this week? They ran it a few times. Look, John Hart was asked point blank that 'if a guy is physically ready and emotionally ready' for the big leagues, (talking about Bryce) is there such a thing as too young?' He says 'No. Not in my mind. The great ones all make the necessary adjustments.' Point blank. Game over. Put him in RF, or at least make the roster. You ever listen to Hart? He's unbelievably sharp, like one of those guys who should have been an engineer, but decided to get into sports.
You're right, he needs to work on some things, and one of them is develop some plate discipline, because they're not going to throw him strikes in the big leagues, first off. They're gonna make him chase. He made a comment in the fall of 'I like to swing hard', you know, teenage stuff, but if he can keep his hands back consistently, eventually they'll mess up and throw strikes because they'll be getting behind all the time. 3-1, 2-0, 3-0 hell-o. Now all of a sudden he's over .300 and making consistent contact. I don't care how old he is, if a pitcher sees him lumbering to the plate, even if it's not conscious, he's gonna start nibbling. He's a monster. Right now. Don't believe me. John Hart says so.

Posted by: Brue | January 26, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Bryce Harper will be a superstar for years to come but, the Nat's are going to move slowly with him just as they did with Strasburg. I think of Al Kaline who was only nineteen or twenty when he won the AL batting title,if they rush him and he get's sent down could that possibly damage his career? caution should overide a propensity to please a fan base starving for a savior.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 26, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

If John Hart wasn't in baseball, he probably would have cracked the human genome 20 years ago. (The guy has an IQ of like 180) That said, I don't think even Hart would be smart enough to put Harper on the opening day roster at age 18.

Posted by: sollazo | January 26, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

"He says 'No. Not in my mind. The great ones all make the necessary adjustments.' Point blank. Game over. Put him in RF, or at least make the roster. You ever listen to Hart? He's unbelievably sharp, like one of those guys who should have been an engineer, but decided to get into sports.

I really don't care what Hart says I look at HOF. Let's take one for example and a good one in this case: Al Kaline, known as "Mr. Tiger" entered the major leagues a year younger than Harper is now. Remember, this is "back-in-the-day" when major league ball player salaries were dirt cheap.

age 18: 30 PA .250/.300/.657 HARDLY PLAYED = splinters.
age 19: 535 PA .276/.305/.652 NOT SO HOT, NOT HOF.

age 20: 681 PA .340/.421/.967 NOW WE'RE TALKIN'

It took HOF outfielder Al Kaline two years, one entire year on the bench before he adapted to the major leagues.

Certainly, now-a-days there is a financial incentive but I tend to believe Rizzo when he says that the minors are for instruction/adjustment/learning and the majors are for PERFORMANCE.

It only took 1 year for Storen to reach the majors. Less than a year for Strasburg. He could have kept both in the minors longer.

Harper needs at least a year or two in the minors. And watching how baffled he was by major league breaking balls ... he needs every repetition, every at bat ... not to mention learning to field 3 outfield positions. He isn't Mike Trout. At least not yet.

Posted by: periculum | January 26, 2011 8:31 PM | Report abuse

"If John Hart wasn't in baseball, he probably would have cracked the human genome 20 years ago. (The guy has an IQ of like 180) That said, I don't think even Hart would be smart enough to put Harper on the opening day roster at age 18."

Doh, mine has been measured that high. Most of DC is likely in that arena? My god NIH, NCI, NSA (largest employer of mathematicians in the world), etc. are all in the DC area!!

That isn't baseball "smarts". Something guys like Rizzo, Roy Clark and Kline have. Not even close. There is more to baseball than looking at stats. There is the history behind each player, there is each and ever PA, each and every chance in the field. And veteran scouts have seen this time and again.

Posted by: periculum | January 26, 2011 8:35 PM | Report abuse

@Brue,

"He says 'No. Not in my mind. The great ones all make the necessary adjustments.' Point blank. Game over. Put him in RF, or at least make the roster. You ever listen to Hart? He's unbelievably sharp, like one of those guys who should have been an engineer, but decided to get into sports."

Here's another firm believer in the coaching and instruction esp. for hitting provided by the minor leagues. Tell me do you think the great and powerful Bryce Harper could ever do this at age 38?

*** .388/.526/1.257 with 119 BB and 38 home runs.****

Playing at the same time that "Mr. Tiger" was getting started!!!

This guy had amazing bat speed and 20:18 vision. He also developed a process that is still in use today. His books on "the art of hitting" are classics.

He started in the majors at age 20 and did pretty well.

However, from what I read when he was managing, he used to chafe when fans and his owner (Bob Short) tried to rush young players to the majors. And he would accept Short's (also GM) edicts, and they would fail just as predicted from experts just watching them in practice and in spring training. Was he a friggin' genius? I doubt it. But he was the last guy who hit .400? Do you think Harper could do that? Do you? Could Williams do that today? I honestly believe he could. He had honed his skill that much.

I believe Rizzo will do the right thing by Bryce Harper. He will challenge him, but he also doesn't want to him to get discouraged when he runs into a road block. He's not going to overwhelm him, he's going to nurture and hone that talent using the resources he has available. And if Harper shows he is ready either by September or before I believe Rizzo will move him to the major league roster.

Posted by: periculum | January 26, 2011 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Periculum, you do not have an IQ of 180. Most legitimate geniuses do not have an IQ above 180.

Posted by: 202character | January 26, 2011 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Periculum, you do not have an IQ of 180. Most legitimate geniuses do not have an IQ above 180."

I don't know ... its averages and a lot of it is a bunch of hooie!! The point I was making I believe?

I consistently average (depending on mood, when I take the test, the test) between 130 and 180.

Like I said, its likely more than 1/2 the DC area can do that. Most of the folks who graduated from Montgomery County schools like I did probably can do that. Is it impressive? NO!

I'll take Ted Williams expertise over that of John Hart in a heartbeat. And when it came to hitters he was the world's foremost expert.

Posted by: periculum | January 26, 2011 9:37 PM | Report abuse

John Hart could run NIH, NSA, and the NHL with both hands tied behind his back. He could have graduated from Whitman or Churchill by age 9, then become an Engineer, then cracked the code, then become a mlb general mgr. I still don't think he has the brain power to stick Harper in the majors on opening day at 18. That would require an intelligence only seen in very few (like Al Gore).


Posted by: sollazo | January 26, 2011 9:51 PM | Report abuse

>>I still don't think he has the brain power to stick Harper in the majors on opening day at 18. That would require an intelligence only seen in very few (like Al Gore).

Posted by: sollazo

Nobody is going to have to stick Harper anywhere, he'll stick himself there. Everybody talking about how long it should be before Harper is called up. I say immediately, he should not leave major league camp. Nobody else has a date for his arrival but me. Why is that? His development is absolutely complete. He needs experience - against pitchers he's going to face in the bigs. That's it. He's fully cooked and has played 160 games in a season before. You can't open a catalog on pitchers in the NL East until you've faced them a few times.

Posted by: Brue | January 26, 2011 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone bragging about their IQ on an anonymous message-board most certainly does not have the IQ equivalent of that of a genius. That's the truth.

Of course this is the same guy who openly roots for the Natinals, so his IQ is already in question to begin with.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 26, 2011 11:48 PM | Report abuse

"Nobody else has a date for his arrival but me. Why is that? His development is absolutely complete. He needs experience - against pitchers he's going to face in the bigs. That's it. He's fully cooked and has played 160 games in a season before. You can't open a catalog on pitchers in the NL East until you've faced them a few times."

Said the same thing about Justin Maxwell. Do you think he is a good hitter @Brue? He surely has as many tools as Harper? He was rushed to the majors by Bowden basically ruining a promising career.

There's no ETA for Harper because he hasn't ever faced a minor league pitcher much less a major league one except in the AFL. He'll write his own ticket. Believe me if he hits .400 in the minors he will quickly punch his ticket into the big leagues right then and there.

Ted Williams hit .388 at age 38 in the majors. If Harper is as goos as you claim he should be able to hit 488 in AAA. Right?

~smiles~ Yeah right dude. ~laughing

Posted by: periculum | January 27, 2011 1:07 AM | Report abuse

6 years of last place finishes and we have 1 player in the top 50 prospects????? what is wrong with Washington sports???? almost as pathetic as the Wizards 0-21 record on the road. But I will still be there on opening day, go Natinals

Posted by: SkinsWins | January 27, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Bryce Harper -- No one has any cllue whether he''ll perform well in ST or in the minors. Discussion over whether he should be in the bigs in April is more than a little premature.

He MAY be some fantastic All Star caliber player in MLB or he may end up like a lot of other can't miss prospects that missed for one reason or another. Greg Jeffries, Brien Taylor, Drew Henson, Ben McDonald, Phil Nevin, Matt Bush . . . the Nats can be very excited about this kid, of course, but he's far from some kind of certainty as being even an every day player in MLB.

Posted by: dfh21 | January 27, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

AJ Cole will be in the Top 50 next year. Strasburg and Storen threw to many innings to be considered, but in reality are no different, so thats 4 guys right there. Espinosa, Ramos and Norris are in the top 100. Look into it a bit deeper, the talent level has improved drastically.

Posted by: JDB1 | January 27, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Brue,

The question of bringin up Harper is strictly one of what is best for his development. In this regard, he deosn't need major league experience, he needs professional experience. If he dominates AA then maybe bring him up. Not to mention there is a benefit to delaying his arbitration clock.

Poopy, you are aptly named because you are full of sh_t. You act like your a fan of some great team who can look down on the nats, but your squad finished with a worse record than the Nationals, which means they are garbage. Scoreboard....

Posted by: NattyDread2 | January 27, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I too am getting increasingly tired of the negative and poorly researched crap that appears in these comments. So lets correct a few---ADAM...Bryce Harper skipped his last 2 years of high school not 1 and would currently currently be a high school senior today waiting for his season to start.PERIC..you refer to Walter Johnson as spending his 1st three years adjusting "time that would better have been spent in the minors". Now the facts WJ made his major league debut on 8/02/1907 and pitched 110 innings in the last 7 weeks of the season with an 1.88 ERA. In 1908 he pitched 256.1 innings with a 1.65 ERA. In 1909 he pitched 296.1 innings with a 2.22 ERA. Certainly he should have been in the minors,what do you do make this crap up as you go along. Next to Al Kaline he did not spend an entire year on the bench. The first half of the 1953 season he was in high school at Southern in Baltimore. He signed at roughly the half way point on 6/19/1953 and played very little during the second half of the season for a variety of reasons which included some minor injuries. He did not spend a year on the bench as it says above. The negative postings that dominate this space are a result of poor work by Mr. Kilgore and a bunch of fools that know next to nothing about the history of baseball.

Posted by: wellscats | January 27, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

@NattyDread2 - Ignore the troll. You don't wrestle with a pig; you only get covered with mud and the pig enjoys it. Trust us on this.

Posted by: gilbertbp | January 27, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

NattyDread, Bob Marley called in and wishes you cease and desist using any/all references to him or his glorious music.

That said, what is a fact is that Baltimore is a much better baseball town than DC. Shoot, since the 1950's, Baltimore hasn't gone through THREE teams.

Thems the facts pal.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 27, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

@wellscats,

Maybe you should follow your own advice? LEARN BASEBALL history because clearly YOU ARE THE ONE FULL OF SH$T. Reading is fundamental. They've been teaching that for decades now right? Sheesh. What sort of high school education did you get?

"On Friday, August 2, 1907, Walter Johnson pitched his first game in the big leagues. Johnson’s inaugural tilt was the first game of a double header in Detroit and he lost 3-2. *** He had trouble fielding **** and the Detroit team took full advantage. The Senators dropped both halves of the twin bill as their last-place record fell to a dismal 28-60. "

He probably could have used some minor league reps? Right, @wellscats?

Johnson also had injury problems (even though he pitched 256 the following year. As a result he was not the opening day starter those 2 years and didn't pitch until later. Really lucky he did not end up blowing out his arm.

@wellcats? Don't just look at stats, look at wins and losses AND READ !!!!

But in Kaline's case the stats tell a different tale than you are dude. .305 OBP in 1954 AND .652 OPS kind of tells you the guy wasn't ready for prime time. He too had problems fielding his position. He wasn't ready for two years dude.

Look at what Ted Williams did at the same age and tell me they are even in the same league.

Posted by: periculum | January 27, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

AJ Cole will be in the Top 50 next year. Strasburg and Storen threw to many innings to be considered, but in reality are no different, so thats 4 guys right there. Espinosa, Ramos and Norris are in the top 100. Look into it a bit deeper, the talent level has improved drastically.

Posted by: JDB1 | January 27, 2011 10:26 AM
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Ah, moving the goalposts eh? You'd make an excellent politician.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 27, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Always funny reading periculum trying to "lecture" people about baseball.

I'm guessing the farthest periculum got as a baseball player is either tee-ball or like the water cooler filler-upper-guy for his HS team.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 27, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

>>Said the same thing about Justin Maxwell. Do you think he is a good hitter @Brue? He surely has as many tools as Harper? He was rushed to the majors by Bowden basically ruining a promising career.

Posted by: periculum

Back to ignore.

Posted by: Brue | January 27, 2011 1:03 PM | Report abuse

>>Always funny reading periculum trying to "lecture" people about baseball.

I'm guessing the farthest periculum got as a baseball player is either tee-ball or like the water cooler filler-upper-guy for his HS team.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P

Somebody said he was on meth awhile back. Forgot who it was.

Posted by: Brue | January 27, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Not to encourage Poopy or anything, in fact just the reverse, but he is generally correct. The O's have better manamgement in McPhail and Showalter, they have better talent in the bigs, they have better talent in the minors and they have a long storied baseball history (despite the long recent drought). But so what, who cares.

This is a blog re the Nats. So, can we stick to the topic. The Nats, not the O's or even the Senators of yore. Can we keep discussion to the Washignton Nationals and issues related to the club?

Posted by: dfh21 | January 27, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh well, there's always 2035

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 26, 2011 1:24 PM

Is that when we can piss on your grave?

Posted by: Kev29 | January 27, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing the farthest periculum got as a baseball player is either tee-ball or like the water cooler filler-upper-guy for his HS team."

Back to ignore.

Posted by: Brue

Which is what folks keep suggesting for you two trolls. Two peas in a pod full of Innuh Harbuh excrement.

Posted by: periculum | January 27, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

"Oh well, there's always 2035
Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 26, 2011 1:24 PM"

The Vegas Vivas formerly know as the Ori-hole Byrds win the the world series!

Posted by: periculum | January 27, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

"That said, what is a fact is that Baltimore is a much better baseball town than DC. Shoot, since the 1950's, Baltimore hasn't gone through THREE teams."

And to finish Poopy's ridiculous LSD pipe dream history: the only reason Baltimore still has a team, and it isn't in Vegas is because DC fans, bereft of a team of their own, filled Excrement Field, also known as Camden Yahds.

Posted by: periculum | January 27, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"That said, what is a fact is that Baltimore is a much better baseball town than DC. Shoot, since the 1950's, Baltimore hasn't gone through THREE teams."

And to finish Poopy's ridiculous LSD pipe dream history: the only reason Baltimore still has a team, and it isn't in Vegas is because DC fans, bereft of a team of their own, filled Excrement Field, also known as Camden Yahds.

Posted by: periculum | January 27, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

@NattyDread2 - Ignore the troll. You don't wrestle with a pig; you only get covered with mud and the pig enjoys it. Trust us on this.

Posted by: gilbertbp | January 27, 2011 12:49 PM
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If you think about it, mud is nothing but wet dirt.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 27, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Not to encourage Poopy or anything, in fact just the reverse, but he is generally correct. The O's have better manamgement in McPhail and Showalter, they have better talent in the bigs, they have better talent in the minors and they have a long storied baseball history (despite the long recent drought).

Posted by: dfh21 | January 27, 2011 1:10 PM
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Oh snap. Natinals fans getting the facts today.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 27, 2011 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Is that when we can piss on your grave?

Posted by: Kev29 | January 27, 2011 1:11 PM
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Yeah, go for it. I can picture it now, you squatting down, like the woman you are.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 27, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and for the remaining, delusional Natinal fans that are remaining here's what Boswell said about the Orioles today:

"I think they've had an excellent off-season. They have a better short-term outlook than the Nats for '11........So, that shows that...Baltimore is a better destination than Washington."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Sorry Natinal fans but things are looking pretty, pretty, pretty bleak for your team.

Posted by: P00PY_MCP00P | January 27, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

For the sake of honesty, here's the full answer Boz gave:

"I think they've had an excellent off-season. They have a better short-term outlook than the Nats for '11. In the A.L. East I just can't see them getting to .500. But Mark Reynolds and D. Lee make that offense much more of a homer lineup, which seems to be necessary in the A.L. SAlso, power is contageous. Markakis, Weiters and Jones could all be >20 homer guys, rather than 15-20 folks if they didn't feel the pressure to be power hitters. Just "let it happen."

I like J.J. Hardy to bounce back at SS. And the Nats definitely thought that Lee had a higher bounce-back ceiling than LaRoche, who's steady but will never turn into Tino Martinez. The O's just beat them out to get Lee. So, that shows that, to some players, Baltimore is a better destination than Washington.

However, because of Strasburg and Harper, because the DC market may still produce 30K crowds and because the Lerners are just so rich, Washington has a better chance of actually contending __certainly for a wildcard, at least__ in that '12-'17 window when the Nats will have SS, BH, an extending Ryan Z and Werth as well as the rookie class of '10.

O's fans should look forward to '11 with Buck. But Nats fans may __may__ have a great deal more to fascinate them from '12 onward. But Stras and Harper have to pan out at the Doc Gooden, D Strawberry level. They don't have to be HOFers. But they need to be good."

Posted by: baltova1 | January 27, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Periculum you strike me as a particularly angry and stupid fellow. You cite Ted Williams in comparasion with Al Kaline as if I had mentioned him in my writings which I did not. Then you pull a passage referring to Johnson's debut against Cobb and his Tigers the best and most fearless baserunning team of its time to defend your stupid argument. I'm afraid your logic rivals that of a household pet. Reading you is like trying to understanding why a dog licks his own ass.If you'd like to learn a little bit about baseball you can find me in section 125 our usher will be happy to point me out.

Posted by: wellscats | January 27, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

This blog is a shadow of its former self. And that's a damn shame.


Posted by: Section505203 | January 27, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Shadow" isn't the first word that comes to mind, but I agree completely.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | January 27, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"Shadow" isn't the first word that comes to mind, but I agree completely.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | January 27, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree as well (regarding the comments section, specifically, as opposed to the post content).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 27, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

1a, I was referring to the comments section as well.

Posted by: Section505203 | January 27, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

1a, I was referring to the comments section as well.

Posted by: Section505203 | January 27, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I figured that, 505203 but wanted to clarify that I didn't mean AK.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 27, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Yanno, in all honesty, he's no Blogfather.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | January 27, 2011 6:07 PM | Report abuse

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