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On July 4th, Barack and Michelle Obama granted "Access Hollywood" video time with 10-year-old Malia and 7-year-old Sasha. The resulting footage shows a tight-knit family. Talkative Malia tells it how it is in her house. Dad leaves his heavy bag in the doorway for the family to trip on it. He shakes hands with her friends, embarrassing her. If Obama wins the presidency, she's looking forward to decorating her own room in the White House. And the family says they stay in touch daily via telephone while Dad is out campaigning.

After the interview aired, it spread through cable TV like wildfire, surprising the Obamas. "We wouldn't do it again and we won't be doing it again," Obama said to Matt Lauer on the "Today Show."

The question, though, is why did they grant the interview in the first place?

As a parent who writes regularly about her kids in a public forum, I worry daily about how my words could affect the kids. I don't use their names or photos to protect them. A few times when we've been out and about, I've seen people take photos of them. I go and question the photographer about the photo and its use. One time, I missed a New York Times photographer shooting them. But a security guard near us didn't. She pulled the photographer aside to question him. We left the area and a photo of a good friend and her son whom we'd been playing with appeared in The Times. While I'd love to see the photo and maybe even get a copy, I wouldn't have given my okay to use it.

Watching the presidential race from afar, I've been impressed thus far with the Obamas' strength in keeping their children out of the limelight. They are public figures and have recognized that the girls aren't. Obama says they simply got caught up in the moment of Malia's birthday celebration. "Access Hollywood" interviewer Maria Menounos told MSNBC's Dan Abrams that "it just kind of happened." The interview with Barack and Michelle Obama was about to begin when the girls "popped in" and 7-year-old Sasha wedged herself between her parents.

What did you think of the interview? Do you think a presidential candidate's underage children belong in or out of the spotlight?

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By Stacey Garfinkle |  July 11, 2008; 7:01 AM ET  | Category:  Newsmakers
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"The question, though, is why did they grant the interview in the first place?"

Hubris.

"What did you think of the interview?"

Wow! What a difference between this bunch and the Clintons during their respective presidential campaigns!

Obama's wife and kids don't respect him, he tolerates this nonsense, and he comes off kind of spacey and indecisive. Not my image of the next leader of the free world. What were his advisers thinking?

Posted by: You kids keep off of my lawn! | July 11, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

As the campaign heats up it will be impossible to keep them totally isolated. Why not let them gradually get used to it in a controlled manner vs being blind-sided at an event?

Posted by: KLB SS MD | July 11, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

I think it's great, it shows his human side and helps people to connect with him. Cute kids. Have their own mind, and well spoken. The decision to limit such exposure in the future is strategically smart too: makes people wish for more.

Posted by: Nine | July 11, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Gimme a break! These kids didn't just "pop-in." This was clearly staged. If my children had just "popped-in" during such an event, I would stop the interview and "pop them back out."

Posted by: Pwkickice | July 11, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Nine

"The decision to limit such exposure in the future is strategically smart too: makes people wish for more."

I've seen more than enough. The guy is weak, weak, weak! I want a bada$s President!

Posted by: Holly Gennaro | July 11, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

This is a non issue. The kids weren't exploited. They basically said he doesn't eat sweets. They sounded like kids talking about their dad.

Exploiting kids? You'll have to speak with Billy Ray Cyrus about that. In about five years, Miley may be shaving her head like Brittney. That kid has TOO much on her shoulders.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama looks like a truck driver in drag!

Posted by: Ugh | July 11, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Uh, no offense, but I've never heard of you, Ms. Garfinkle. Why are photographers trying to take pictures of you and your kids? Are Washington Post bloggers that famous these days?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

This is gonna be good! Email's down at work. I think it's time to pop some popcorn.

Posted by: Oooooooooohhhh | July 11, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

I think they handled the situation perfectly. As for the comments about Michelle's looks that is totally untrue and shows bitterness that your candidate didn't win. Also, what's weak about wanting to spend time with your children.

Who are you that people would want to take you and your kids photo? Talk about self important.

Posted by: Who | July 11, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

"Uh, no offense, but I've never heard of you, Ms. Garfinkle. Why are photographers trying to take pictures of you and your kids?"

Uh, have you ever seen Ms. Garfinkle's photo???

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

"As for the comments about Michelle's looks that is totally untrue"

Hw do you know?. Have you ever seen a truck driver in drag?

"and shows bitterness that your candidate didn't win."

Not a Democrat, duh. The candidate win is a non-issue. "Bitterness" is high school, but what else is new on the OP?

Posted by: Truman Capote | July 11, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Zee | July 11, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

This was a really nice, genuine interview and I don't see anything wrong with the fact that the kids were in it (as long as they limit their exposure I don't see why this would be a problem-- after all, it is something they'll have to get used to if he is elected). I also don't get why some of the commenters are saying that Obama appeared "weak"-- as if he's supposed to somehow be "above" letting his wife and kids good-naturedly tease him! If you don't agree with his politics that's one thing, but these are obviously the kind of people who are looking for fault around every corner and want to pick him apart. I disagree with John McCain's politics but I respect him as a person and would never condone anyone attacking his wife the way that the Fox News crowd has gone after Michelle Obama. Seriously, grow up! For once, can't we just *try* to keep this on an adult level?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

"If you don't agree with his politics that's one thing, but these are obviously the kind of people who are looking for fault around every corner and want to pick him apart."

Oh, brother! Like that never happens.
It's politics, duh! The greatest show on earth!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Two things...

1) I agree with the poster wondering why photographers (paparazzi?)would be following Ms. (Miss?, Mrs.?) Garfinkle in the first place. Does blogging for WaPo suddenly make you that important? I don't hear Jason LaConfara or Dan Steinberg worrying about this.

2) I don't know whether the Obama family interview was staged or not, but the significance of what may have been said is getting blown way out of proportion. The kids seem to be normal and honest.

One thing that I am wondering about is whether the girls will attend public or private school when they move to The White House in January.

Posted by: SapphicHokieMom | July 11, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I understand completely why Ms. Garfinkle doesn't want strangers taking pictures of her children. I would never want a picture of my little precious put up on some internet board used for purposes that shudder to think about. There are just so many perverts these days. My LE hubby sometimes has to deal with them. ICK!

Posted by: Cecilia | July 11, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA ARE UCALLED FOR AND DISRESPECTFUL IT JUST SHOWS IGNORANCE. I THINK THE OBAMA'S ARE GREAT PEOPLE AND THEIR CHILDREN REFLECT THAT. I DONT SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE INTERVIEW WITH THE CHILDREN AS LONG AS THE PUBLIC CAN BE MATUE AND NOT VIOLATE AND HARASS THEM. BARACK IS JUST BEING A PROTECTIVE PARENT AS HE SHOULD BE WHERE IN TODAYS SOCIETY AND POLITICS EVEN THE INNOCEN ARE FAIR GAME TO BE TAUNTED AND PICKED APART AND RIDICULED. WE AS A NATIN SHOULD WONDER WHY BARACK FEELS THE NEED TO PROTECT HIS CHILDREN FROM THE PUBLIC? LOOK AT THE NASTY THINGS YOU SAY ABOUT HIS WIFE. WHILE WE ARE ALL WELCOME TO OUR OWN OPINION AND WE ACTIVELY USE OUR RIGHT TO "FREE SPEECH", WE HAVE ALSO BECOME CRUEL AND FOUL.

Posted by: baracking the votein my 1st election | July 11, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

"The question, though, is why did they grant the interview in the first place?"

For the same reason celebrities sell their baby photos. It fills the demand - once - on terms the Obamas controlled. As a result, the price that mags will pay to the paparazzi declines to a point where it is not worth a freelancer's time to hover around and try to get a close-up. The press secretary can shut down all subsequent interview requests from professionals. Mission accomplished.

Now. Does anyone have a topic relevant to average non-famous parents with average non-famous children?

Posted by: MN | July 11, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

"BARACK IS JUST BEING A PROTECTIVE PARENT AS HE SHOULD BE WHERE IN TODAYS SOCIETY AND POLITICS EVEN THE INNOCEN ARE FAIR GAME TO BE TAUNTED AND PICKED APART AND RIDICULED."

Did someone leave the back gate to the asylum ajar again?

Posted by: Zmelda | July 11, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Hw do you know?. Have you ever seen a truck driver in drag?


If you watch "COPS" you have seen a truck driver in drag! One of the more famous episodes about a prostitution sting!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Oh MN, I would love to ask people how they go about making the decision to return to work once their children are in school. I would love to go back but, as I said once before, my husband is against it. He feels I should stay home and continue to do what I have been doing - cook and clean and be here with a healthy snack when the children get off the bus. In fact, he thinks I should meet them at the bus stop. I think he reads too many bad stories in the newspaper. He fears that some pervert will abduct our children on their way home. I think that they are old enough for a little bit of freedom. It is only a two short block walk.
I currently have a part-time job (every Friday night) doing home party sales which is very lucrative but I would love to go back to teaching. How do I convince my husband that I can do it all?

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"BARACK IS JUST BEING A PROTECTIVE PARENT AS HE SHOULD BE WHERE IN TODAYS SOCIETY AND POLITICS EVEN THE INNOCEN ARE FAIR GAME TO BE TAUNTED AND PICKED APART AND RIDICULED."

Did someone leave the back gate to the asylum ajar again?

No, a SAHM went off her meds today.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I thought the Obama family interview showed that Obama is raising his girls to be strong women and that his wife is a good role model for them as well. The family is a "real" family....not those "talbot's kids" look alikes who smile alot and say nothing.

And I agree, Michelle needs to spend a little more time in the make up chair. She's beautiful....she should play up her beauty every day, all the time. Yes, it's WORK....but such is the price of fame.....She appears to be earthy and grounded, but a potential first lady is interviewing for the job as well and quite frankly, she needs to look the part. She doesn't need a designer wardrobe, but she could definately use an entourage in the hair and makeup department to enhance her "girlish" features.....

And I think that Mrs. McCain is WAY over done up.

Posted by: tlawrenceva | July 11, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Did someone leave the back gate to the asylum ajar again?

How can a gate be ajar?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I agree with MN. These kids would have been hounded, so the Obamas were smart to give the media their fix in a completely controlled manner. I was watching The Daily Show last night, and they were doing a piece on all the attention shown to Cindy and Michelle. My analysis is that we live in a 24 hour news coverage world, and they've got to come up with SOMETHING to fill the space, so now they're going after the wives. The kids are a natural progression. Sad but true.

MN- We can direct the discussion to ways you control your kids' images. I don't have a huge fear of pictures of my kids out in cyberspace if they aren't identified.

Posted by: atb | July 11, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

what are you doing Donna, stuffing envelopes from home? Processing rebates? Or maybe forwarding Nigerian money scam emails?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

ALL CAPS MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A CRAZY PERSON. I DON'T READ THEM BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE SCREAMING IN MY HEAD.

Posted by: atb | July 11, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I don't work from home - I go to people's houses for party sales. It is kind of a sensitive topic and I am not sure is is appropriate to talk too much about it here but I will tell you that there is a good amount of money to be made in selling erotica/personal pleasure items.

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Just to be clear: When photographers have pointed their cameras at the kids, it's been because they are average kids doing average things. Like getting a tattoo at a fair. Or playing in a fountain. I don't mind people we know photographing them, but I don't want people we don't know having photographs of them.

Posted by: Stacey Garfinkle | July 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Donna

"I don't work from home - I go to people's houses for party sales"

Who takes care of your kids when you attend these parties?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I think this is typical of Obama's media strategy. Use everyone, then claim it was a mistake, thereby getting all voters on board. See, those that wanted the kids to be interviewed are happy, and those of us that think that was absolutely stupid are appeased because he apologized and said he'll never do it again. Well, he won't until it's to his benefit to do so.

Posted by: Jenny | July 11, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I sixth or seventh the motion of who is following this author around? Seriously, WaPo bloggers are great but most people don't care about you other than what you write.

As for the Obamas, if he wins the whole family will be in the limelight for 4 - 8 years. So might as well get used to it and figure out early on what kind of access is appropriate. Maybe they thought this fluff interview was ok initially and on second look -- not such a good idea for whatever reason. Frankly, I think it's a good thing that they tried, found they weren't comfortable and changed their minds. It's much better than those who stick to what they believe regardless of the evidence in front of them.

Posted by: Danielle | July 11, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

atb,

I avoid photos and identification of my kids in cyberspace because, in my real life, my identity, photo, and workplace address are on a public web site. I do not want my kids drawn into my semi-public life until they are old enough to control their own exposure.

I am one of those 6 parents out of 300 2nd grade families who opts out of school photos. I frankly don't trust schools not to identify kids by first and last name to newspaper reporters. I would not care if my kids were in a photo if they were not identified by name.

What do you think about families who use Flickr and keep their photos public? Wouldn't it bother you if some cyberwhacko is looking at photos of your toddler 1700 times in 4 months? I'm asking, not challenging.

Posted by: MN | July 11, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

My husband is home on Friday nights and is glad to put the children to bed. All I do is make sure they have their dinner and that he and I eat together before I leave. Most parties don't start until after 7pm.

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Stacey- It's a funny thing, people taking pix of your kids. If it's a pro, for a paper or something, no one seems bothered. If it's a civilian, especially a man, that's a problem. I'm not sure if I've taken pix of kids, but I've certainly taken street shots while traveling, and the people are an important part of that.

Posted by: atb | July 11, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Were you being serious when you say you worry about people taking photos of your children? Speaking of, ahem, ego issues... I had to scroll up and read your byline. I expected it to say - Andrea Mitchell - or you know, someone known in journalism. Papparazzi photos of a parenting issues blogger and children? Hahahahahaha, that's a riot. I thought that was you next to Lara Logan on Pg 6.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

"Maybe they thought this fluff interview was ok initially "

It was a no brainer that it wouldn't be ok. First stupid mistake.

"and on second look -- not such a good idea for whatever reason."

Duh!

" Frankly, I think it's a good thing that they tried, found they weren't comfortable and changed their minds. It's much better than those who stick to what they believe regardless of the evidence in front of them."

Second stupid mistake - the flip-flop.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

"Were you being serious when you say you worry about people taking photos of your children? Speaking of, ahem, ego issues... I had to scroll up and read your byline. I expected it to say - Andrea Mitchell - or you know, someone known in journalism."

Think first. Bash later.

Stacey's response indicates that her concern has nothing to do with her occupation or importance in the universe. She is concerned about why a stranger is photographing her children -- if she doesn't know the person, and the person doesn't know her kids, it's reasonable to wonder whether the photographer has an unnatural or illicit interest in her kids.

Posted by: MN | July 11, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Maybe some lawyer will correct me if I am wrong but you can't prevent anyone from taking your picture in public. And you have no legal standing to demand the picture not be taken or destroyed.

As I recall from business law, if a person is on public property or can be viewed from public property, there is no law against taking a picture.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Journalists should:

-- Show compassion for those who may be affected adversely by news coverage. Use special sensitivity when dealing with children and inexperienced sources or subjects.

http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

That means you don't photograph children without permission and you photograph fat people from behind and from the neck down when gathering b-roll for an obestiy story.

Regarding the "pop-in" -- of course it staged. Polititans have been using their children for a long time.

Posted by: SPJ | July 11, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

MN- Good question. I guess if I knew one guy was looking over and over, that would be creepy, but if there was no way to identify her, it wouldn't feel unsafe. I guess I'm a bit naive, though. My toddler asks for "baby" on the computer all the time, and we show her YouTube videos of other people's babies, so that's the market I assume mostly goes for that stuff.

Posted by: atb | July 11, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

While you can't stop the picture from being snapped, you can always control the use of the picture. A person who appropriates the likeness or person of another may be tortiously interfering with the right's-owner's right to privacy. The claim is misappropriation of likeness.

In the real world, the limits of the law are less important than civility and common courtesy. If a parent asks you not to photograph her child, what would be your principled basis for declining? "Because I want to." How very first grade of you.

A parent can block the shot and ask the photographer to leave her kids out of the shot. If the photographer declines, she can call the police and report that a stranger is stalking kids at Park Y and let the photographer explain to the police that his behavior is within the limits of the law. Many behaviors which aren't illegal remain scummy.

Posted by: MN | July 11, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I think any parents have the right to decide about their own children. I don't think it's any of my business or yours what the Obama's decide about theirs.

Posted by: Carole | July 11, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

MN, thank you for your response!

Posted by: from 9:40 | July 11, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I hate to be the first person to tell you this, but young people are human beings. They have a right to speak, and a right to be heard if anyone wants to listen. Neither you and your husband nor the Obamas have a right to keep their children bound and gagged and away from the media.

Posted by: Alexander | July 11, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

You know, it angers me that some folks think that Senator Obama's children while speaking honestly and innocently about their father (the fact that he leaves his bags where someone might trip over them) is being disrespectful of him. Give me a break. You are the folks who are looking for any and every thing you can to undermine this man and his campaign for President. His children and his wife obviously love this man and aren't afraid to show it. To his children he is "Daddy" not "Senator Obama", or "future President Obama" - give them a break. Be more concerned about our current rogue President and his administration and how they have brought our country down. Where are your crys for impeachment of a President who took us to war under false pretence killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people, including the sons and daughters of America? Where is your indignation for a man who has turned our economy upside down and is so out of touch with the average citizen that he does not know or will not admit that we are in the throws of a recession? Enough.

Posted by: Ohreallynow | July 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Carole. It's their decision, not ours. Like a lot of other things that the Obamas do it's their decision and we should stay out of it. BTW, I enjoyed the interview and was impressed by how poised and self-assured Malia is. Obviously a well raised child. That goes a long way with me.

Posted by: N. Briggs | July 11, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Carole

"I think any parents have the right to decide about their own children. I don't think it's any of my business or yours what the Obama's decide about theirs"

Um, the decisions Obama makes about his children reflects his JUDGMENT. That is my business.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Um, the decisions Obama makes about his children reflects his JUDGMENT.

And W raised a pair of party girls.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

MN

"Think first. Bash later."

Write better. No bash.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of picture of (private) individuals in public, what is up with people who win money at a casino? I have seen lots of billboards and marquee photos of someone or another proclaiming "I won $110 at blank casino" or "I won $40,000 at such and such casino" or "I won 52 cents at the Old Ladies and Disadvantaged Professional Basketball Players Bingo Night."

I think that the respective state gambling commissions should set a truth in advertising regulation. Think what we may see.

"Hey kids, mom and I are p*ssing away your inheritance!"

"I lost the rent money, again!"

"It was really the casino's money that I lost, after I was up $500!"

And of course, "I really did win that 52 cents at the Old Ladies and Disadvantaged Professional Basketball Players Bingo Night."

Posted by: I have always been puzzled about this! | July 11, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

While you can't stop the picture from being snapped, you can always control the use of the picture. A person who appropriates the likeness or person of another may be tortiously interfering with the right's-owner's right to privacy. The claim is misappropriation of likeness.

MN

And now we all know why lawyers are so well-respected in the community, NOT!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I am one of those 6 parents out of 300 2nd grade families who opts out of school photos.

MN

Nothing like making your kids feel like losers.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Nothing like knowing your kids only has self-esteem only if they are part of a group!

Posted by: to 10:17 | July 11, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

"I am one of those 6 parents out of 300 2nd grade families who opts out of school photos."

300 2nd graders in 1 school!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Nothing like knowing your kids only has self-esteem only if they are part of a group!

Posted by: to 10:17 | July 11, 2008 10:22 AM

Why not just home school them then?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

that should be:

your kids have self-esteem

before the grammar police swoop down on me

Posted by: to 10:17 | July 11, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

"I am one of those 6 parents out of 300 2nd grade families who opts out of school photos."

In reaction to which it's only a matter of time till her kids start posting their own photos online.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Zee -- who cares? These girls were bound to end up with the spotlight on them at some point. And let's face it, Washington is not Hollywood so they won't have anything to tell Oprah in twenty years like other celebrity kids.

Posted by: DC Fem | July 11, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Weren't there lots of photos of the Kennedy kids in the White House? They turned out fine anyhow.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

"I am one of those 6 parents out of 300 2nd grade families who opts out of school photos."

Parent of a future serial killer.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

"I am one of those 6 parents out of 300 2nd grade families who opts out of school photos."

Can you imagine the 2nd grader having to explain the reason to his classmates? Great way to get beaten up after school.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Allowing or not allowing your children's picture to be taken is a conscious choice a parent makes. We should not criticize their parenting style even if it does not align perfectly with ours. We have no way of knowing if this reluctance is due to a traumatic incident in one of the parent's past or if it is just cautiousness of their part.

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"Can you imagine the 2nd grader having to explain the reason to his classmates? Great way to get beaten up after school."

By 2nd grade the other kids are used to the whack job mothers and their cuckoo bird ways.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

The interview was sweet; genuine with nothing objectionable. However, the fact that the Obamas were "surprised" by it's spread and wish they hadn't done it illustrates cluelessness, inexperience, and lack of judgement that don't belong in the White House. Unless they're being disingenuous, which isn't any better.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

A disingenuous politician? Stop the presses!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Write better. No bash.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 10:09 AM

Pot calling Kettle. Hi Kettle.

Learn to love predicates.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I have to admit, I don't understand this whole "I don't let my children be photographed" thing. My photos were in the paper growing up and I don't think I suffered any adverse effects. I never ended up with a stalker-and mind you, the photos were what some over-zealous people would consider prime "creepy male stalker material": I was a young female gymnast. In fact, the only people who ever commented on the photos (and articles) were my neighbors. And what it taught me was to be gracious and humble when people complimented me on my accomplishments and apperances in the local media.

Posted by: Birdie | July 11, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Weren't there lots of photos of the Kennedy kids in the White House? They turned out fine anyhow.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 10:39 AM

except for the dead one.

Posted by: ahgirltodiculg | July 11, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

except for the dead one.

Posted by: ahgirltodiculg | July 11, 2008 11:00 AM

Leave it to a MM to snark on a tragedy.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"My photos were in the paper growing up and I don't think I suffered any adverse effects."

I've driven drunk many times and have not killed anyone or suffered any adverse effects.

I used a lot of illegal drugs in my 20s and don't think I suffered any adverse effects.

I have slept around alot without using condoms and didn't contract HIV so it must be okay.

Posted by: Darwin loves logic | July 11, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Hubby wants wifey in the kitchen seeing to every need of the little kiddies & is willing to tend to the preciouses one night a week so wifey can go sell smut? What happens if adorables stumble into the 'erotica/personal pleasure' items? Hubby not so understanding then, hmmm?

Posted by: wha? | July 11, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Should a high-powered politicial have done a fluffy interview with an entertainment show like "Access Hollywood"? Probably not - Obama's press people should have advised against. (And I'm sure some morning talkshow anchor would have been happy to do a friendly "family sit-down" piece if they had needed to ask for it -- where's Katie Couric when you need her?) Should they have been surprised that the interview, the first with the whole family together, took off like wildfire? Heck, no! The public has a lot of curiousity about this man and his family. There's a lot of emotion involved in presidential politics, and seeing the family dynamic reinforces people's emotional involvement with the candidate.

And now that we've seen the Obama girls, they need to retreat behind the same wall that Chelsea Clinton and Carter's daughter stayed behind while they were minors. They have an absolute right to privacy and their parents should defend that right. On the public vs. private question, I'm sure Secret Service would prefer private, but maybe the Obamas will opt for public school. I believe there are still some decent public elementaries left in DC. But perhaps they'd need to get a waiver to not go to the neighborhood school? At the end of the day, the White House ain't in a great neighborhood...

Posted by: BxNY | July 11, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

My husband loves our children and enjoys spending the evening with them.
I do not consider the line of products I sell "smut". It is a perfectly legal business opportunity for which I am grateful. I keep all the display items locked in a cabinet in the garage. The children do not have access to the key.

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Weren't there lots of photos of the Kennedy kids in the White House? They turned out fine anyhow.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 10:39 AM

except for the dead one.

Posted by: ahgirltodiculg | July 11, 2008 11:00 AM


Leave it to a MM to snark on a tragedy.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 11:04 AM

Only if you redefine "snark" as pointing out an inaccuracy.

Posted by: aardvark | July 11, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

My husband loves our children and enjoys spending the evening with them.
I do not consider the line of products I sell "smut". It is a perfectly legal business opportunity for which I am grateful. I keep all the display items locked in a cabinet in the garage. The children do not have access to the key.

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 11:19 AM

That probably works as well as a gun safe does. Not.

This is too weird.

Posted by: karl | July 11, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Donna

"My husband loves our children and enjoys spending the evening with them"

As long as the kids are asleep.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Um... Halloooo- as anyone with a kid currently in local school systems is most likely aware, the big opt-out is for people from outside the school system (generally media) taking recognizeable pix of a child in the school building during the course of regular classes &c. Unless the kid decides to make a big deal about it, who's on the list isn't information known outside of the school admins and perhaps the child's teacher- and it comes up maybe once in a blue moon anyway.

On the off-chance the OP is talking about school portraits- plenty of kids don't get portraits.

SO: How exactly is that going to put a kid into therapy / make them a psycho / yadda yadda yadda?

Posted by: VA Parent | July 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Darwin Loves Logic wrote:
""My photos were in the paper growing up and I don't think I suffered any adverse effects."

I've driven drunk many times and have not killed anyone or suffered any adverse effects.

I used a lot of illegal drugs in my 20s and don't think I suffered any adverse effects.

I have slept around alot without using condoms and didn't contract HIV so it must be okay."

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Please. Having my picture in the paper isn't comparable to engaging in either balantly illegal or downright irresponsible behavior.

What I am saying is I don't understand this phobia of having pictures taken, and gave my own personal example of why. I also, you'll note, wrote that I learned something for the whole experience about be gracious in taking compliments.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Why is Donna's part time job selling personal items any different than Dad hiding the Playboy and Hustler under his underwear?

Posted by: You go girl | July 11, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

How come Hillary was bashed to no end by all the Obama supporters and the pro Obama media on Countdown for "pimping out" Chealsea, a grown up 28 year old woman, who was simply working for her mother during her campaign? While Obama clearly exploited his wife and young daughters to project the image of an all american patriotic family on a low brow tabloid news show like access hollywood. This guy will do anything if it is expediant for his presidential campaign.

With the secret service protection those two little girls receive no papparazzi will get within a Britney Spears shaved hair of a head of them!

Posted by: clyde | July 11, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"I keep all the display items locked in a cabinet in the garage. The children do not have access to the key."

My 4 year old daughter has come across my small rabbit vibrator in my nightstand. It looks like a harmless toy. I don't see a point of having it locked up when it can do no harm to her. The first and only time she picked it up out of curiousity, I told her to not play with it and put it away.

*Oh, the harms of what could happen if my young daughter comes across the condoms and vibrator in my nightstand.* /ends sarcasm.

Posted by: Soguns1 | July 11, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"I frankly don't trust schools not to identify kids by first and last name to newspaper reporters. I would not care if my kids were in a photo if they were not identified by name."

That attitude is solidly out of the norm. Run a shot from School Fitness Day or whatever and quite a few parents whose kids aren't identified in a cutline call the paper and CHEW YOUR REAR for leaving out little Britney or Bobby, no matter how far in the background or out of focus their darling is.

Not sure what accounts for the difference in behavior. Maybe the parents who don't object to their kids being identified have watched fewer episodes of "To Catch a Predator."

As for the Obamas, coverage is merited maybe if one of the kids is different in some way, for example, if the child is a prodigy or has some disease or disability that might provide insight into a candidate.

Coverage of generally unremarkable kids should be limited mostly to the fact that the candidate has them.

Posted by: Pook | July 11, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Who baptized the Obama kids?

Is Michele known as Obama Mama? Mama Obama?
Baby Mama Obama?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Donna seem to be proud of her smutty little part time job. Her hubby probably takes some perverted delight in knowing that she is doing it.

Donna, I used to agree with you 100% but this is so off putting, vile and disgusting. I can't believe that you would have such trash in your house anywhere! Don't even bother to respond to me.

Posted by: Cecilia | July 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey "wha?" Toys are not smut! Women are allowed to have a social life and pleasure. Additionally, it's important to teach kids about sexuality from a young age. We normally don't, and that's why society is so FUBR.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama looks like a truck driver in drag!

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a cruel, irrelevant and inappropriate comment. i'm just curious what your professional and personal credentials/qualifications are. not much, one might imagine.

Posted by: ***** | July 11, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

That means you don't photograph children without permission and you photograph fat people from behind and from the neck down when gathering b-roll for an obestiy story
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no, it doesn't. it doesn't mean that at all. it's not a rule or regulation but a guideline, but the decisive shot is the decisive shot. and anyone who knows anything about photography knows that. the photographer makes the decision. otherwise, you wouldn't have the photo of the young girl running screaming down the road, covered w/napalm. or the black man being attacked by a white guy holding the american flag as a lance. or of people dying in war or from famine or disease. get a grip.

Posted by: what's up w/that? | July 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Cecilia

"Donna, I used to agree with you 100% but this is so off putting, vile and disgusting. I can't believe that you would have such trash in your house anywhere! Don't even bother to respond to me."

Down girl! "Donna/Cecilia " is running a z-grade con.

Posted by: nOSALE | July 11, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

If a parent asks you not to photograph her child, what would be your principled basis for declining? "Because I want to." How very first grade of you.
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the importance of the story and the accompanying photo. do you work at walmart?

Posted by: ***** | July 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I believe that the comments to this article will only reflect the political beliefs of the writer and are barely worth reading.

Posted by: DCer | July 11, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"Michelle Obama looks like a truck driver in drag!"

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"a cruel, irrelevant and inappropriate comment. i'm just curious what your professional and personal credentials/qualifications are. not much, one might imagine. "

And I'm curious why you don't recognize a well know quote...in some circles. One can only imagine.

Posted by: Chill out! | July 11, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"That means you don't photograph children without permission and you photograph fat people from behind and from the neck down when gathering b-roll for an obestiy story"

Hey! There are a couple of regulars on the OP who qualify for the obesity pix!! Names submitted upon request.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I only allow my child to be photographed at school provided he is eating peanut butter in a peanut-free zone.

We have someone in our neighborhood who also runs smut parties and is constantly foisting this stuff on other families. (You'll never BELIEVE what she handed out last year at Halloween!) She's known by the other families as The Dirty Underwear Lady. I'm sure her children are very proud.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I believe that the comments to this article will only reflect the political beliefs of the writer and are barely worth reading.

Posted by: DCer | July 11, 2008 12:15 PM

But you read all of them now didn't you?

Posted by: HUH? | July 11, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

"That means you don't photograph children without permission and you photograph fat people from behind and from the neck down when gathering b-roll for an obestiy story"

"Hey! There are a couple of regulars on the OP who qualify for the obesity pix!! Names submitted upon request."

Lay off fat people. The bigger the cushion -the better the pushin!.

Posted by: Whoopi | July 11, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

This just shows, again, poor judgement on the part of Mr. Obama.

While there may be 'some' good schools in the district, I suppose that, just like every other house in this country, the White House is districted to a specific school, therefore, the Obama's cannot CHOOSE the school their children will go to, unless it is a private school.

The children SHOULD NOT have to GET USED to the spotlight - as mentioned, the Clintons DID NOT have Chelsea all over the place. As it should be - the children did not choose this lifestyle, they should be protected, not on access hollywood. I mean, - REALLY!!! what are they thinking???

Posted by: another voice | July 11, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I get it - Whoopi - cushion - good one!

Lay off fat people. The bigger the cushion -the better the pushin!.
Posted by: Whoopi | July 11, 2008 12:26 PM

Posted by: Funny | July 11, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe another voice thinks the Obama children should be covered with a blanket aka Michael Jackson's youngest sons whenever they are out in public?

Posted by: Security | July 11, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking Whoopi Goldberg. She is lucky if her cushion gets any pushin!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Pook

"Coverage of generally unremarkable kids should be limited mostly to the fact that the candidate has them."

That should be an OP rule - no bragging about unremarkable kids.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

That should be an OP rule - no bragging about unremarkable kids.

Which begs the question: What would they have to do to be remarkable?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"the White House is districted to a specific school, therefore, the Obama's cannot CHOOSE the school their children will go to, unless it is a private school."

Isn't that what charter schools are for in the Distric? confused....

Posted by: Soguns1 | July 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I wear flip flops, why shouldn'y the Obama's?

Posted by: Oh Paleeeze | July 11, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Why is it our business to tell the Obamas how to raise their children? They are obviously doing a great job and one casual interview showing a well connected, happy family is not going to scar their two young daughters. I think it shows great humility on the part of Obama to come out after the interview and admit a mistake. Get off your high horse and admit that every parent makes mistakes. He should be applauded both for his wonderful children and his ability to admit having made the wrong decision.

Posted by: Jessica | July 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

jessica: how many of those are you going to wait for him to make? It's a long list in many, it seems, where he makes decisions, and then the next day decides, oops, sorry , i didn't know what was going on (oh, wait one decision was *25* years of his life, then he said: oh, never mind, I had NO IDEA what was going on in that church...).

He goes off without thinking (or, it seems, worse, WITH thinking) and then says: oops. He is asking us to make him the president of these united states, and I for one can't seem to think that that's a good way to go about doing business.

Posted by: one voice | July 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Weren't there lots of photos of the Kennedy kids in the White House? They turned out fine anyhow.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 10:39 AM

except for the dead one.

Posted by: ahgirltodiculg | July 11, 2008 11:00 AM


Leave it to a MM to snark on a tragedy.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 11:04 AM

Only if you redefine "snark" as pointing out an inaccuracy.

Posted by: aardvark | July 11, 2008 11:20 AM

Obviously aadvark thinks she's going to live forever.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

But you read all of them now didn't you?
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Why would I? I read 3 or 4 from some campaign interns and that was enough. I won't be back here again today.

Posted by: DCer | July 11, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

"He goes off without thinking (or, it seems, worse, WITH thinking) and then says: oops."

Wait, we're talking about McCain now?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

"Get off your high horse and admit that every parent makes mistakes."

Um. Not in front of millions of people on "Access Hollywood"!!!!!!

"He should be applauded both for his wonderful children"

The kids are average. Big deal.

"and his ability to admit having made the wrong decision."

Don't make a no-brainer stupid decision and you won't need the "ability" to admit you made the wrong decision.


Posted by: Wow! | July 11, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

jeez. what a bunch of judgmental ninnies. i'm outta here.

Posted by: b | July 11, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Why would I? I read 3 or 4 from some campaign interns and that was enough. I won't be back here again today.

Posted by: DCer | July 11, 2008 1:00 PM

Promises, promises. Thanks for your insightful contribution, DCer. You could skip Monday, too, and make the world a better place.

Posted by: yada yada yada | July 11, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse


"The children SHOULD NOT have to GET USED to the spotlight - as mentioned, the Clintons DID NOT have Chelsea all over the place."

You mean until she was utterly humiliated by her dad's constant catting around, culminating in his behavior with Monica Lowinsky, an event about which she must still endure questions? Yeah. They really protected her.


Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

What a world...we have parents who won't lock up guns to protect their kids, but Donna takes the time to lock up the dildos...Sounds like a candidate for Mommy of the year! What do list you occupation as on those "back to school" forms?

Posted by: Mitchnrva | July 11, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

b

"jeez. what a bunch of judgmental ninnies. i'm outta here.

Jeez. Voters making judgments!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Mitchnrva


"What a world...we have parents who won't lock up guns to protect their kids, but Donna takes the time to lock up the dildos...Sounds like a candidate for Mommy of the year! What do list you occupation as on those "back to school" forms?"

"Donna" is running a con.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Whoa Cecilia--you're way off here. Why I don't generally agree with most of the things Donna has to say, I see nothing wrong with her part-time job. Actually, I'm shocked that her husband agrees to watch the kiddies Friday night, since he has such an aversion to eating dinner with them. I think Cecilia needs to relax and get out 50's.

Posted by: Kristine | July 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I am one of those 6 parents out of 300 2nd grade families who opts out of school photos. I frankly don't trust schools not to identify kids by first and last name to newspaper reporters. I would not care if my kids were in a photo if they were not identified by name.

MN

Probably if her kid's photo ran in the paper, it wouldn't be for something that would make a normal parent proud.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

But you read all of them now didn't you?
Why would I? I read 3 or 4 from some campaign interns and that was enough. I won't be back here again today.

Posted by: DCer | July 11, 2008 1:00 PM

Promises promises. Make sure you keep them and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

"I won't be back here again today."

One down - 50 to go!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Until you give up all your worldly possessions and turn yourself into a starving child of the Sudan with cancer, I will not recognize your need for an iPhone

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Kristine

"I think Cecilia needs to relax and get out 50's. "

"Cecilia" is running a con.


Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"Cecilia" is running a con.
"Donna" is running a con.

I see a common thread here - this person is clearly paranoid. Is there a psychologist in the house who can help?

Posted by: I know one when I see one | July 11, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

There you go, mocking me again. I am not running a "con". If you want to talk about running a "con" you need to talk to my LE hubby.

I don't have anything against a homemaker having a part time job so she can have some pin money. My problem with Donna's job is that she bring smut into her house. A home is a sacred thing that should shelter our little precious ones from the big nasty world.

My hubby tells me so much about the big nasty world. Sometimes, I have to cover my ears to get him to stop talking about the ugliness out there.

Posted by: Cecilia | July 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

They'll never get in the White House, so what's the big stink about? After November they'll all be has-beens, fading into the background until one of them gets arrested for 1) drunk driving, 2) illegal drug use, or 3) unwed pregnancy.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

They'll never get in the White House, so what's the big stink about? After November they'll all be has-beens, fading into the background until one of them gets arrested for 1) drunk driving, 2) illegal drug use, or 3) unwed pregnancy.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 1:33 PM

I hope this person isn't a parent - certainly not the encouraging type.

Posted by: Fromer OBer | July 11, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"They'll never get in the White House, so what's the big stink about? After November they'll all be has-beens, fading into the background until one of them gets arrested for 1) drunk driving, 2) illegal drug use, or 3) unwed pregnancy."

Yes. Obama family - please go away.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes, I have to cover my ears to get him to stop talking about the ugliness out there.

Posted by: Cecilia | July 11, 2008 1:33 PM

and yet you are here. You must have some attraction to ugliness.

Posted by: sofie | July 11, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Probably if her kid's photo ran in the paper, it wouldn't be for something that would make a normal parent proud.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 1:16 PM


you must be desparate for someone to hate on.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"After November they'll all be has-beens, fading into the background until one of them gets arrested for 1) drunk driving, 2) illegal drug use, or 3) unwed pregnancy."

Don't think unwed pregnancy is a crime...
What are the stats on the likelihood of the Obama kids popping out babies
out-of-wedlock?

Posted by: Curious | July 11, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Don't think unwed pregnancy is a crime...
What are the stats on the likelihood of the Obama kids popping out babies
out-of-wedlock?

Posted by: Curious | July 11, 2008 1:46 PM

Considering the young ladies are 7 and 10, the likelihood is 100% that your question reveals an inappropriate interest in the sexual activities of young children.

Posted by: Donna's second cousin | July 11, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

and yet you are here. You must have some attraction to ugliness.

There are some good comments here but I do have to hold my hands over my eyes on some of them.

I do need to keep myself current on what is happening in the big world (as much as I hate doing this sometimes) so I can know what I can allow into my home and what I should not.


Story time is over here at the library, time for little precious and me to go home. And yes, I do read all the books before hand that will be read at story time.

Posted by: Cecilia | July 11, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

still "Story time is over here at the library, time for little precious and me to go home. And yes, I do read all the books before hand that will be read at story time."

Sounds like the chick in Revolutionary Road, but it's a con.

Posted by: White people are stupid | July 11, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Donna, do you think that you could patch things up with Cecilia so that the two of you could come over to my place tonight and demonstrate some of Donna's marital aids? I promise that I won't touch anyone. All I want to do is to watch and take pictures.

Posted by: Pillsbury Doughboy | July 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Here is another sad person. Or - hmmm - is it the same one? Inquiring minds want to know. Somebody is trying very hard to convince us that Donna and Cecilia are cons - I don't remember them ever saying they were in prison (joke).

Sounds like the chick in Revolutionary Road, but it's a con.

Posted by: I know onw whenI see one | July 11, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"What a world...we have parents who won't lock up guns to protect their kids, but Donna takes the time to lock up the dildos...Sounds like a candidate for Mommy of the year! What do list you occupation as on those "back to school" forms?"

What do Tupperware people list their occupation as? Donna's products probably contain fewer BPAs!

Posted by: Elizabeth | July 11, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I never list my occupation on the school forms. My husband fills them out. We always put the home phone number as the main point of contact since I am almost always here. We use my cell as a backup in case I am out shopping.

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

something like 25% of DC kids attend charter schools that have admission open to the entire DC area, not limited to one neighborhood. also, you can certainly apply to have your child attend an out-of-boundry school. i don't recommned that though because it is great to really get involved with the school that is just down the street rather than across town. Easier to get to PTA meeting, etc. as you work to improve the school, your neighborhood improves. My child attends our neighborhood school and so far we are satisfied.

Posted by: to "another voice" | July 11, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"Somebody is trying very hard to convince us that Donna and Cecilia are cons -"

If you need convincing, I have a great a guy for you.

He's 48, never married, still a virgin, very, very attractive, wealthy, and a nice normal guy. He just needs to meet someone as kind and gentle as he is.

You sound gullible enough. May I have your phone number?

Posted by: artichoke annie | July 11, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Why is it so hard to believe that there are women who dedicate their life to caring for their children? Maybe they both go a little overboard (although I would bet Donna's husband loves to test her products) but that is their choice and they are not hurting anyone. They are honest about their choices and make no excuses for their lifestyle. Who else can say that?

Posted by: I know one when I see one | July 11, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

he's a conniving fraud, that's why he did it.

Posted by: say no to the koolaid | July 11, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

What do Tupperware people list their occupation as?

Posted by: Elizabeth | July 11, 2008 2:05 PM

"homemaker"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"Why is it so hard to believe that there are women who dedicate their life to caring for their children?"

wake up and smell the coffee, as Ann Landers said back in the day.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Well, I think that "Cecilia" and "Donna" are BOTH Dandylion in disguise. :-D

Posted by: OldBAM | July 11, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I never list my occupation on the school forms. My husband fills them out.

Posted by: Donna | July 11, 2008 2:11 PM


As you've described him, he sounds like the kind of guy who would stop by the school during work hours and complete voluminous amounts of repetitive paperwork.

Posted by: snowmobiling sindy | July 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

My kids school does the dumbest thing, they hand out a booklet with all of our addresses and the kids name! gee , don't want that many strangers knowing my son's name and where we live. I plan on definitely keeping us out this year. Absolute stupidity!

Posted by: stupid school administration | July 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

My kids school does the dumbest thing, they hand out a booklet with all of our addresses and the kids name! gee , don't want that many strangers knowing my son's name and where we live. I plan on definitely keeping us out this year. Absolute stupidity!

Posted by: stupid school administration | July 11, 2008 2:21 PM

Wow. If this is a public school, I am surprised that the applicable privacy laws permit this. It is customary in private schools for directories to be distributed, but they also typically get opt-in consent. Do you live in DC?

Posted by: anonforthis | July 11, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"Well, I think that "Cecilia" and "Donna" are BOTH Dandylion in disguise. :-D"

Nope. Dandylion makes a lot of spelling & grammar errors. And his writing style is more blue collar & emotionally immature.


The style resembles a phoney dumbed-down AB, but AB doesn't have the guts to pull a con on the OP, other than his original con.

Posted by: Figure out the agenda | July 11, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Figure out the agenda?

Mirth.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Just for fun, i looked up what is the "neighborhood school" for 1600 Pennsylvania AVE NW. It is Stevens Elementary. I t is right around the block from my doctor's office building. Old classic building-- very urban. Only blacktop-- no grass. Quite small. It's appx 6 blocks from the white house. I believe one of the Post' columnists is an alumnus of the school. Seems like it used to have very high test scores, but has gone dramatically since then-- but part of that is because the standard test is now so much tougher than it used to be.

I could see the girls going there, but for security, 20th street between K and L would need to be shut down. And part of L. Hmmm . . . now I understand why maybe it is just easier to go with a private school. Or maybe home school?

Posted by: to "another voice" | July 11, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

"other than his original con."

Huh? What was AB's original con?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

"AB doesn't have the guts to pull a con on the OP, other than his original con."

Ya mean that old story about being an engineer with a SAH wife, daughters, Purdue, softball and geeky advice about everything? Yeah. Totally unbelievable.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

was there an actual topic today?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"Nope. Dandylion makes a lot of spelling & grammar errors. And his writing style is more blue collar & emotionally immature."

Dandylion's writing style is to emotionally immature for him to be Cecelia ("my precious" "the big nasty world")? She's some bigtime sophisticate, fer sher.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

was there an actual topic today?

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 2:45 PM

From Stacey: a rehash of knee-jerk political bickering elsewhere on the Post website.

From the peanuts: no.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if Cecilia is fake. Not quite as sure about Donna. But Jed Clampett is real. Where is Jed today anyway?

Posted by: another opinion | July 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

"Dandylion's writing style is to emotionally immature for him to be Cecelia ("my precious" "the big nasty world")? She's some bigtime sophisticate, fer sher."

It's deliberate, Gomer. And controlled.
Dandylion can't keep his emotions under check.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

My problem with Donna's job is that she bring smut into her house.

Yes, leave the 11 inch big veined dong in the garage like Cecila does, sheesh Donna don't you know?

Posted by: find a better place like cecila does | July 11, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Donna's just a toned-down retread of the supposed former porn actress on OB. You guys will fall for anything.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Donna's just a toned-down retread of the supposed former porn actress on OB. You guys will fall for anything."

Never, ever underestimate the stupidity of the American public.

Oops! We're back to today's topic!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Chrissie.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

You guys will fall for anything.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 3:05 PM

you guys? methinks the same person who created Donna and Cecilia is the person claiming each is real. Duh.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Once again, OB and Celebritology have ruined our perfectly good little blog. The topic would have made a perfectly good discussion, had Donna not revealed her perfectly disgusting (and R rated) job.

As I said yesterday, what we need here is respect for the topic and respect for each other.

Posted by: OB OB Go Away! | July 11, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"As I said yesterday, what we need here is respect for the topic and respect for each other. "

Why?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Do you have an on-topic comment? Ever?

Posted by: to OB OB Go Away | July 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I think it is pATRICK who is causing all this mirth and mayhem!

Posted by: former OBer | July 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Emily.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Fred?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

fr to "another voice":

>...Just for fun, i looked up what is the "neighborhood school" for 1600 Pennsylvania AVE NW. It is Stevens Elementary. I t is right around the block from my doctor's office building. Old classic building-- very urban. Only blacktop-- no grass. Quite small. It's appx 6 blocks from the white house...

Didn't Amy Carter go there? I almost think the Carters sent Amy to a local public school, but I could be wrong.

Posted by: alex | July 11, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

"As I said yesterday, what we need here is respect for the topic and respect for each other.

I heard you the first time. Stop nagging.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"Once again, OB and Celebritology have ruined our perfectly good little blog."

Hmmm. OB OB says "perfectly good little blog". "Cecelia" talks about her "little precious". Must be something in the water.

Posted by: susie | July 11, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"I think it is pATRICK who is causing all this mirth and mayhem!"

I agree. Has the agenda. Knows the subject. Has learned to control emotions in order to achieve goal. Has lots & lots of free time.

Pathetic, really pathetic.

Posted by: Morph this | July 11, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

OB says "perfectly good little blog". "Cecelia" talks about her "little precious


Maybe they are both thinking about their respective DH's --uh--uh, oh, you know what!

Posted by: Just Maybe? | July 11, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"OB says "perfectly good little blog". "Cecelia" talks about her "little precious"


"Maybe they are both thinking about their respective DH's --uh--uh, oh, you know what!"

Ha, ha!!!!!!!

Maybe Cecelia's "little precious" is the "Rosebud" of Marion Davies.


Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Cecelia's "little precious" is the "Rosebud" of Marion Davies.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 3:46 PM

You're just casting pearls before swine here.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe Cecelia's 'little precious' is the 'Rosebud' of Marion Davies."

Bingo.

"Cecelia, why don't you come on over here and show your daddy Little Precious."

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

You don't think we don't get the Citizen Kane reference?

Posted by: Oh, come on! | July 11, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Cecelia and Donna are Irishgirl.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I think this is all Dandylion, it has his sense of humor written all over it.

Posted by: seen dandylion before | July 11, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

ACTOR: Now tell me honestly, my boy, don't you think it's rather unwise to continue this philanthropic enterprise, this Inquirer that's costing you a million dollars a year?

ORSON WELLES: You're right, Mr. Thatcher. I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars next year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I'll have to close this place in sixty years.

Posted by: Best Quote from Citizen Kane | July 11, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Cecelia and Donna are Irishgirl.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 3:57 PM

Maybe KLB SS MD?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

seen dandylion before

No way. Dandylion spells too poorly.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Could be Leslie Morgan Steiner, embittered about losing OB.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Could be Leslie Morgan Steiner, embittered about losing OB.

I was just going to say that! but I was going to add drunk on blue nun wine also. Ha,ha

Posted by: stole my thunder! | July 11, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it is Stacey trying to gin up some interest in this uninteresting blog?

Posted by: Another Conspiracy Theory | July 11, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

but I was going to add drunk on blue nun wine also.

But there's calories in alcohol.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

u guyz should all follow dina lohan's example in raising children. she's an awsum parent and excxcellent roll model.

Posted by: luvlinsey | July 11, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Here are the top poster from OB. In other words, garrulous people without a blog. For homework, dissect each one with pros and cons. Then deduce who is generating all these bogus postings.

397 anon
455 Missicat
467 experienced mom
467 momof4
478 chittybangbang
479 atb
481 rockville
486 Lizzie
521 Chris
591 catlady
609 MN
633 Mona
648 atlmom1234
757 WorkingMomX
758 pittypat
767 moxiemom
775 armybrat
805 atlmom
855 NC lawyer
982 cmac
1044 dotted
1058 Meesh
1073 Laura
1102 mehitabel
1154 Father of 4
1202 Leslie
1433 Megan
1568 foamgnome
1580 KLB SS MD
1748 Emily
1817 Scarry
1973 Fred
2140 pATRICK

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

PITTYPAT!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it is Stacey trying to gin up some interest in this uninteresting blog?

Posted by: Another Conspiracy Theory | July 11, 2008 4:06 PM

You give her way too much credit.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Mallory: You're Nikolai... You're the man who blew us in Greece.


Your DandyLion, You're the man who blew us in OB...

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I can remember everything. That's my curse, young man. It's the greatest curse that's ever been inflicted on the human race: memory.

Posted by: Leland | July 11, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Ivan Klimatovich: [in Russian] If I still had legs, I'd kick your a**!
Hellboy: [to agent] Could you hold this guy for a while? He is so negative.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Charles Foster Kane: This gentleman was saying...
Boss Jim Gettys: I am not a gentleman. I don't even know what a gentleman is.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I can't finish my thought because I have to put my finger in this alligator's bottom.

Posted by: Mike Rowe | July 11, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Mike Rose (sigh)

Posted by: Be still my beating heart | July 11, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I was swooning and mispelled - Mike Rowe (sigh).

Posted by: Be still my beating heart | July 11, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't think there's one word that can describe a mans life.

Posted by: Charles Foster Kane | July 11, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Amy Carter went to Stevens Elem. School. I used to see her playing on the asphalt playground, two bored Secret Service agents standing at the gate with their earplugs in. Also used to see her at Woodward & Lothrop with her friends, tailed by SS agents. If the agents weren't there, you'd never know it was Amy Carter.

But don't worry, the Osamas will never get elected, with or without exploiting their children on televised, scripted and rehearsed interviews.

FWIW, I think Cecilia and Donna are actually Emily. She apaprently got into a snit about jokes about her hemorrhoids and creative uses for frozen vegetables.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm shakin' the dust of this crummy little town off my feet and I'm gonna see the world. Italy, Greece, the Parthenon, the Coliseum. Then, I'm comin' back here to go to college and see what they know. And then I'm gonna build things. I'm gonna build airfields, I'm gonna build skyscrapers a hundred stories high, I'm gonna build bridges a mile long...

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Is that you, E.D. Hill?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Sheriff Lucius Hartwell to Fox Mulder:

"We used to have swaps only the EPA made us take to calling them wetlands."

Posted by: One Good X Files Quote | July 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

take your hands off me you damn dirty ape!

Posted by: the spirit of charleston heston | July 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"But don't worry, the Osamas will never get elected, with or without exploiting their children on televised, scripted and rehearsed interviews."

4:36 is channeling Tracy Flick:


Dear Lord Jesus, I do not often speak with you and ask for things, but now, I really must insist that you help me win the election tomorrow because I deserve it and Barack Obama doesn't, as you well know. I realize that it was your divine hand that disqualified Mitt Romney and now I'm asking that you go that one last mile and make sure to put me in office where I belong so that I may carry out your will on earth as it is in heaven. Amen.

Posted by: To 4:36 | July 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Stelllllllllllllllllla!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 4:12 PM

This poster obviously could'nt cut it on OB and has an axe to grind....

Posted by: say hello to my little friend | July 11, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Look at you. You used to be so cocky. You were going to go out and conquer the world. You once called me "a warped, frustrated, old man!" What are you but a warped, frustrated young man? A miserable little clerk crawling in here on your hands and knees and begging for help. No securities, no stocks, no bonds. Nothin' but a miserable little $500 equity in a life insurance policy.

Posted by: to Movie Critic from Mr. Potter | July 11, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

What we got here is... failure to communicate.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"It's my way of sticking it to the man."


"But, you are the MAN!"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Boss Paul: That ditch is Boss Kean's ditch. And I told him that dirt in it's your dirt. What's your dirt doin' in his ditch?
Luke: I don't know, Boss.
Boss Paul: You better get in there and get it out, boy.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

Posted by: French Soldier | July 11, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-a$$ or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-a$$ or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box.

Posted by: to Movie Critic from Carr the Floor Walker | July 11, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gillis: You're Norma Desmond. You used to be in silent pictures. You used to be big.
Norma Desmond: I *am* big. It's the *pictures* that got small.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

Posted by: Dennis | July 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Terry: You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it.

Posted by: On the Waterfront | July 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gillis: There's nothing tragic about being fifty. Not unless you're trying to be twenty-five.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers -- don't know the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, educated and intelligent (there's a difference, you know).

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

And I promise you I'll never desert you again because after 'Salome' we'll make another picture and another picture. You see, this is my life! It always will be! Nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!... All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.

Posted by: to Movie Critic from Norma | July 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

You see in this world there's two kinds of people my friend - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig

Posted by: the good,the bad and on parenting | July 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats . . .

And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

Posted by: The Book of Armaments | July 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Hard-boiled eggs, anyone?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers -- don't know the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, educated and intelligent (there's a difference, you know).

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 4:51 PM

***********************

I don't think this is from a movie ....it sounds more like Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Where's this from? | July 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers -- don't know the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, educated and intelligent (there's a difference, you know).

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 4:51 PM

There is a difference between educated and intelligent. On the other hand, since you are neither, it's a moot point.

Fact: Unwed pregnancy is not a crime.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Roy Neary: I know this sounds crazy, but ever since yesterday on the road, I've been seeing this shape. Shaving cream, pillows... Dammit! I know this. I know what this is! This means something. This is important.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers -- don't know the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, educated and intelligent (there's a difference, you know).

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 4:51 PM

I think I know the direction in which the Holy Hand Grenade should be lobbed.

Posted by: MN | July 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Is that it? Is that all you're gonna ask me? Well I got a couple of thousand g***amn questions, you know. I want to speak to someone in charge. I want to lodge a complaint. You have no right to make people crazy! You think I investigate every Walter Cronkite story there is? Huh? If this is just nerve gas, how come I know everything in such detail? I've never been here before. How come I know so much? What the hell is going on around here? Who the hell are you people?

Posted by: to Movie Critic from Roy | July 11, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers"

So much for small government, much better to spend lots of money barging in on everyones bedrooms and jailing pregnant girls.

Posted by: hoo boy | July 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers -- don't know the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, educated and intelligent (there's a difference, you know).

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 4:51 PM

I think I know the direction in which the Holy Hand Grenade should be lobbed.

Posted by: MN | July 11, 2008 4:55 PM

Interesting moral compass.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

If unwed pregnancy is a crime we'd have to jail the girls, then we taxpayers would have to pay for their pregnancies. Surely you don't believe in that.

Posted by: To 4:51 PM | July 11, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers -- don't know the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, educated and intelligent (there's a difference, you know)."


Crude and slow, clansman, your attack was no better than that of a clumsy child!

Posted by: there can be only one.. | July 11, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime."

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | July 11, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime. That's the trouble with you leftwing flamers"

**************

I don't have a college degree. I don't even have a job. But I know a good kid when I see one. Because they're ALL good kids, until dried-out, brain-dead skags like you drag them down and convince them they're no good. You so much as scowl at my niece, or any other kid in this school, and I hear about it, and I'm coming looking for you!

Take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face! Good day to you, madam.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

You aren't too smart. I like that in a man.

Posted by: Matty | July 11, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Oscar: Whatcha got for pie today Stella?
Stella: I got cherry, cherry and cherry.
Oscar: Well, what do you recommend?
Stella: I like the cherry.
Oscar: Bring it on.

Posted by: Everyone's a critic | July 11, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Why, anybody can have a brain. That's a very mediocre commodity. Every pusillanimous creature that crawls on the Earth or slinks through slimy seas has a brain. Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have. But they have one thing you haven't got: a diploma.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Terminator: I need your clothes, boots and your motorcycle.

Cigar Biker: You forgot to say please...

Posted by: Arnold | July 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

There's a lotta things about me you don't know anything about, Dottie. Things you wouldn't understand. Things you couldn't understand. Things you shouldn't understand.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

For over a thousand years, Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of a triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters and musicians and strange animals from the conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children, robed in white, stood with him in the chariot, or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror, holding a golden crown, and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.

Posted by: Everyone's a critic | July 11, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, unwed pregnancy is a crime."

Hello, nanny state?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Bobby: I'll have an omelet, no potatoes. Give me tomatoes instead, and wheat toast instead of rolls.

Waitress: No substitutions.

Bobby: What do you mean? You don't have any tomatoes?

Waitress: Only what's on the menu. You can have a number two - a plain omelet. It comes with cottage, fries, and rolls.

Bobby: Yeah, I know what it comes with, but that's not what I want.

Waitress: I'll come back when you make up your mind.

Bobby: Wait a minute, I have made up my mind. I'd like a plain omelet, no potatoes on the plate. A cup of coffee and a side order of wheat toast.

Waitress: I'm sorry, we don't have any side orders of toast. I'll give you a English muffin or a coffee roll.

Bobby: What do you mean "you don't make side orders of toast"? You make sandwiches, don't you?

Waitress: Would you like to talk to the manager?

Bobby: You've got bread. And a toaster of some kind?

Waitress: I don't make the rules.

Bobby: OK, I'll make it as easy for you as I can. I'd like an omelet, plain, and a chicken salad sandwich on wheat toast, no mayonnaise, no butter, no lettuce. And a cup of coffee.

Waitress: A number two, chicken sal san. Hold the butter, the lettuce, the mayonnaise, and a cup of coffee. Anything else?

Bobby: Yeah, now all you have to do is hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you haven't broken any rules.

Waitress: You want me to hold the chicken, huh?

Bobby: I want you to hold it between your knees.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy night.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Oh. Where you going?... Oh, you men are all alike. Seven or eight quick ones and then you're out with the boys to boast and brag. YOU BETTER KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

Posted by: Elizabeth | July 11, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Ah! Pee-Wee! Haha! C'est magnifique! Voici Pierre.

Bonsoir.

Ditto. Here, brought you guys French Fries! Hahaha!

Merci beaucoup, Pee-Wee!

Posted by: Merci-bleh-bleh! | July 11, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Get down!

Get down NOW!

Posted by: Jack Bauer | July 11, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need
no badges! I don't have to show you any
stinking badges!

Posted by: movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"Well, it's not the men in your life that counts, it's the life in your men."

Posted by: Mae | July 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't got to show you no stinkin' badges.

Posted by: Al "Jazzbo" Collins | July 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!

Posted by: movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Hi! My name is Brad Majors, and this is my fiancee, Janet Weiss. I wonder if you'd mind helping us. You see, our car broke down a few miles up the road. Do you have a phone we might use?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former
greenskeeper, now, about to become the
Masters champion. It looks like a mirac...It's in the hole! It's in the hole! It's in the hole!

Posted by: movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I must have killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille.

Posted by: Jim | July 11, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Insanity runs in my family. It practically
gallops.

Posted by: movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Back home when I tell people what I do for a living, they think, well, that, that figures. But over here it's a big, a big mystery. So I guess I've changed some. Sometimes I wonder if I've changed so much my wife is even gonna recognize me whenever it is I get back to her -- and how I'll ever be able to tell her about days like today. Ryan -- I don't know anything about Ryan. I don't care. Man means nothin' to me. It's just a name. But if -- you know -- if going to Remeal and finding him so he can go home, if that earns me the right to get back to my wife -- well, then, then that's my mission. (To Private Reiben) You wanna leave? You wanna go off and fight the war? Alright. Alright, I won't stop you. I'll even put in the paperwork. I just know that every man I kill, the farther away from home I feel."

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

It's astounding, time is fleeting
Madness takes its toll
It's just a jump to the left
And then a step to the right
With your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane,
Let's do the Time Warp again!

It's so dreamy, oh fantasy free me
So you can't see me, no not at all
In another dimension, with voyeuristic intention
Well-secluded, I see all
With a bit of a mind flip
You're there in the time slip
And nothing can ever be the same
You're spaced out on sensation, like you're under sedation
Let's do the Time Warp again!

Well I was walking down the street just a-having a think
When a snake of a guy gave me an evil wink
He shook me up, he took me by surprise
He had a pickup truck and the devil's eyes.
He stared at me and I felt a change
Time meant nothing, never would again
Let's do the Time Warp again!

Posted by: Brad and Janet | July 11, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

First rule of Fight Club is -- you do not
talk about Fight Club.

Posted by: movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

But because I am mad, I hate you. Because I
am mad, I have betrayed you. And because I'm mad, I'm rejoicing in my heart, without a shred of pity, without a shred of regret, watching you go with glory in my heart!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me.

Posted by: Benjamin Braddock | July 11, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Out here, due process is a bullet.

Posted by: Movie critic | July 11, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I wish I knew how to quit you

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

You complete me.

Posted by: Tom | July 11, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Bounty hunter #1: You're wanted, Wales.
Josey Wales: Reckon I'm right popular. You a bounty hunter?
Bounty hunter #1: A man's got to do something for a living these days.
Josey Wales: Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy.

Posted by: Everyone's a critic | July 11, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

It's good to be the King!

Posted by: Louis | July 11, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"Don't be saucy with me Bearnaise...

Posted by: Count the Money | July 11, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

According to NIH, teen pregnancies rose in the US for the first time since 1991.

In 2005, the number of births for girls aged 15 to 17 was about 133,000, or 21 for every 1,000 girls. That number rose to nearly 139,000, or 22 for every 1,000 girls, in 2006.

Along the same lines, 1/3 of girls in the United States got pregnant before age 20, and more than 435,000 babies were born to teens between 15 and 19 years in 2006, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Lots and lotsa criminals out there.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

According to NIH, teen pregnancies rose in the US for the first time since 1991.

In 2005, the number of births for girls aged 15 to 17 was about 133,000, or 21 for every 1,000 girls. That number rose to nearly 139,000, or 22 for every 1,000 girls, in 2006.

Along the same lines, 1/3 of girls in the United States got pregnant before age 20, and more than 435,000 babies were born to teens between 15 and 19 years in 2006, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Lots and lotsa criminals out there.

Posted by: | July 11, 2008 6:42 PM

The baby daddies are the criminals, not the girls.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

What's with the people who think the school distributing a list of parents and how to contact them is a bad thing?

What threat do they think other parents from their kids' school represent?

Those lists are pretty handy sometimes. When your kids says he loaned his jacket to "Justin" and he doesn't know Justin's last name, certainly not his parents' names (this happens with first-graders), it saves a lot of time and hassle to be able to check the list for the Justins in his class and call the parents to see if they have the coat. Sure beats trying to get in touch with a teacher during the day. Is also better than stupidly trying to make a teacher responsible for keeping track of every items first graders are capable of losing.

Besides the convenience of having such lists, it's absolutely delusional to think someone who wants to find out where you live in order to commit some malfeasance won't be able to without the list.

Posted by: Fabinot | July 11, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Besides the convenience of having such lists, it's absolutely delusional to think someone who wants to find out where you live in order to commit some malfeasance won't be able to without the list.

Posted by: Fabinot | July 11, 2008 11:42 PM

If someone wants to steal my car, he can do it without me handing him the keys, but it's delusional to think that handing him the keys doesn't make his theft a whole lot easier.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

but it's delusional to think that handing him the keys doesn't make his theft a whole lot easier.

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I don't know too many thieves who actually send their kids to school!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow - how many thieves do you know? One would be too many for me.

I don't know too many thieves who actually send their kids to school!

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Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2008 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Thieves and felons are all around us. Think about that handyman, that painter, that carpenter.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

You seem to think 'unwed pregnancy' involves only teenagers. What about the welfare leech who has four, five or more kids by four, five or more different men?
What about the no-talent celebrities who don't seem to bother to get married before showing off their baby bumps and are the role models for tweens and teens? (Does the name Spears ring a bell?) Sure, they can afford the child care, but those to follow their example can't.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

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