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Do You Have a Mom Car?

It doesn't really matter if you're driving a minivan, SUV, hybrid or a 2-door hatchback. The Mom Car is all about cleanliness -- or lack thereof.

I find it eerily easy to relate to Momlogic's Andrea, whose car is a stinky, gooey, sticky mess. My husband, on the other hand, rolls his eyes any time he goes near the van. "Why can't you just grab some of that and throw it away when you walk out of the van?"

It's a reasonable question, but somehow, my hands are usually filled with school papers, or backpacks, or a child. And so, our car, while not as smelly or "poo-filled" as Andrea's, has its share of crushed Cheerios, goldfish, raisins and other assorted snacks in the back seat. Muddy, dirty shoes have made the rugs chocolate-stained. Papers roam freely. Balls roll around the back seat. Water is routinely frozen in bottles left inside.

The worst spots, though, are underneath the booster seats. Somehow, EVERYTHING the boys have eaten in the car for the past two months has found its way underneath the boosters. If they've lost a toy while I'm driving, that's always the place to look. It's like there's a magnet pulling anything and everything into those crevices.

Have you given up on cleaning your car or is it as spotless as the day you bought it? If a stranger looked inside today, what would he find?

By Stacey Garfinkle |  January 20, 2009; 7:00 AM ET  | Category:  Elementary Schoolers , Preschoolers
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Yes, my car qualifies. As the kids have gotten older, we've cut down on the eating in the car. Now its mostly papers. When will the schools switch to a paperless system. How many times do I need to be reminded about the fundraiser or other assorted events printed out for every family complete with appropriate clip art? We try to clean it quarterly and the children are now required to bring everything (coats, gloves, books, lunchbox, papers, apples etc...) every time we come home, which has helped a lot.
OT, what a great day today. Makes me miss DC more!

Posted by: moxiemom1 | January 20, 2009 7:52 AM | Report abuse

It's funny this is the topic for today. A friend's husband is borrowing our van this morning and I am more than embarassed at the grossness he will find inside. It is full of toys, crumbs, dirt, lollipop sticks, and who knows what else. My husband also suggests I "just keep it clean" but it is really hard with the girls in and out 15 times a day. It does get washed and vacuumed every few months, but it is more than frustrating that before we even pull back in the driveway it looks dirty again. Oh well, now at least I know I am not alone!

Posted by: thosewilsongirls | January 20, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Oh, yeah. Well, not right now -- I had to get a new car a few months ago, so I am well into the "that is NOT going in my car!" phase. Nothing like hours (and hours) cleaning out the old car to provide a strong inducement to keep the new one nice! But I'm too much of a realist to believe that will last -- all we need is one good road trip, and we'll be back down that slippery slope to momdom.

Posted by: laura33 | January 20, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I am actually considering have my car detailed because there have been so many spills and messes (and no, we do not often eat in the car).

Posted by: ishgebibble | January 20, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Stacey's husband. At least clean out the wrappers and trash and such. I know you can't get all the crumbs, but get the big stuff when you leave the car. Our kids are 7 and 5 so they are old enough that they need to get their own trash. Of course it doesn't help that my wife doesn't have a problem leaving her trash in the car as well.

Posted by: dennis5 | January 20, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Trash in the (late) Boobiemobile? What trash? Could not see it for all the breast pumps!

Posted by: Fred_and_Frieda | January 20, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I am not known for my housekeeping but a policy of throwing away as much trash as possible while pumping gas has kept my car...well, not clean but in striking distance. Once I'm home and have brought in kids and kid equipment, going back for empty water bottles is the last thing on my mind.

Posted by: aallen1 | January 20, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

No Mom car.

Nobody eats in my car. Ever. We get out and sit facing one another. I made it a point from their infant days to make eye contact with my kids when we are eating. I refrain from eating in the car when I am alone in the car, too.

Another rule I have is no more than 3 toys per child we leave the house. That is what I consider to be the limit in terms of what I am willing to keep track of. They accepted it with no problem and each day they can pick which toys they want to bring along.

At some point, I switched from carrying a purse to carrying a backpack. I have my "purse" items in the little front pocket of the backpack. In the main compartment, I have the kid's items such as jackets, hats, mittens, clothing, diapers, sunblock, you name it. When I arrive home, any toys they are not carrying go into the backpack so that nothing stays in the car.

I carry a backpack to work instead of a purse, but I am a scientist so I guess my lack of chic isn't hurting my career.

The car does get dirty, but it's just "dirt" from their feet.

Posted by: twins_mom | January 20, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Actually, the minivan is reasonably clean right now. Okay, that's because it was used to ferry oldest DD back to college last night. We had to clean it before packing it to make sure that we knew where all of her stuff was and didn't get any sibling stuff. Then we completely emptied it at school.

The car that the kids drive is filled with CDs, iPod adapters, and any number of fast food wrappers. (DS eats 5 or 6 times a day, minimum. He tends to leave stuff in the car, and his sisters refuse to clean up after him.)

(Re: today - oldest DD's roommates talked her in to going to the festivities with them. So she's "somewhere on the mall", watching on the big screens.)

Posted by: ArmyBrat1 | January 20, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

My child is 6. He has never eaten in the car, except for long road-trips. He has never snacked during a church service, concert, or play. He is not malnourished nor maladjusted. Assuming your child doesn't have a serious gastrointestinal disease, she will not starve if she goes without food or drink for an hour or two.

My goodness, how do they get through the night?


Posted by: baltodad | January 20, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Yes, we have a mom car. It's got lots of books, some toys, and the remnants of meals eaten, though I try to clean up regularly. I don't beat myself up over it. Some people have more tolerance for mess and chaos, and I'm one of them.

Posted by: WorkingMomX | January 20, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

My car is a mini-closet. There always seems to be a need for changes when traveling from place to place.

I usually leave water bottles in the car, at least during winter sports. That way you know you have one and you can fill it up at the gym.

Posted by: RedBird27 | January 20, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

My car would be the 'mommy' car, I guess. It does have some crumbs in it, but we have completely cut down on the eating in it. We recently went with some friends on vacation, and ended up putting the kids all in my car for much of the drive. I could not believe what they allow in their car - and I was a little upset that they thought they should have those things in MY car (like, um, cheetos - at 11 in the AM...first of all, we don't get that stuff for our kids, but DEFINITELY not in the car). And nothing other than water to drink in the car. No way, NEVER. Not ever. Not my whole life.

While I was growing up we NEVER were allowed any food in the car. That's a tough comparison to make, given that people spend WAY more time in their cars these days. But rarely do the kids snack in the car anymore - unless we're on a long road trip. Since we're rarely or never in the car more than 20 minutes, they should be fine. And I clean out my car of toys every once in a while, it's not too bad. It gets MUCH worse in the summer, when we have to have swimmy stuff in there, but even so, that's not so bad.

Posted by: atlmom1234 | January 20, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

my "Throw stuff out" time is when I put fuel into the car. I need to find a sort stuff out time.

Posted by: astarte | January 20, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

When my kids were small, the car definitely got some extra stuff and trash in it, although I have always been one to clean out the car reflexively almost every time I get out so it didn't get as bad as some people here are relating. The only time we would eat while in the car was on long trips and I would clean out most of the trash as soon as we got to our destination. I was never one of those who stuffed Cheerios into my baby or toddler whenever he/she squeaked, seriously that is NOT necessary. So even with small kids the car probably looked better than some adults' cars I have been in, though not up to my usual standards (for some reason I hate clutter in my car, although my desk, that's another story!). When the car REALLY got bad was when it got handed down to become the teen car. YUCK. Wrappers and papers and crap everywhere! Like a rolling trash heap.

Posted by: catherine3 | January 20, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

We all have trash and junk. I buy cheap rubber mats to cover the ones that came with our car so I can hose them down or shake them out. I keep a dustbuster in the garage and a garbage can by the garage door. It really helps!

Posted by: calimom | January 20, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I have just a 10 month-old, but I find that my previously nice clean car is already filling up fast. She doesn't eat or drink in the car, and I don't plan to ever let her. I do leave my diaper bag in there most of the time, an extra baby sling, and a couple of extra toys. I have only a mid-size sedan, so that amount of stuff is still a lot in that car.

I'm expecting my second in May and I don't know how I'll fit two babies' worth of stuff in there. My husband's car is just a little two-door sports car, which he refuses to sell, and with our finances taking a beating these days, I don't know how we can afford another bigger vehicle.

Posted by: foreoki12 | January 20, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Foreoki12: After we had had number 1, we had a sedan and a compact car (which was mine). At some point, we accumulated a second dog. A second child was a thought. I came home one day and said to my DH: I think we need a new car (which meant, *I* needed a new car, since DH had gotten a new one just before DS was born). He thought me crazy and ignored me.

Well, we went away for a weekend (TWO NIGHTS!) and took his sedan. With two dogs, one child, the pack and play, the baby backpack, the diaper bag, a stroller, etc., etc., it was packed to the gills. So he realized with a second kid - well, we'd need some more space.

So I went shopping. We both had that : we're NOT getting a mini van idea. And I came home one day and said: There are reasons people get minivans. DH was not pleased. So I went shopping for a minivan (got the mini-est one I could find, the mazda). DH won't admit it, but he likes it. With the kids getting older, we're getting out of that baby phase (no pack n play, no stroller, etc) - but now they're stuff gets bigger (like, for kung fu) - BUT we don't need it all the time.

Posted by: atlmom1234 | January 20, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I'd really like to know how to get milk stains off of leather seats. Inevitable drips from sippy cups land all over and calcify there, but, regular leather cleaners can't get them off. Any tips?

Posted by: rooibos | January 20, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

We have two sets of wheels, a '96 Chevy Cavalier that is currently the sole car in use, and a 1995 Isuzu Trooper that is currently out of service because it needs new brakes and it's cheaper to fix them ourselves once we get the spare money for something like that (before you blast me about it being a "gas guzzler," we live in mountain country and being volunteer firefighters, we needed something with 4-wheel drive that can handle the farm lanes and mountain fire roads around here!). The kids aren't allowed to eat in the car, so mostly all we have to worry about from the kids is the occasional backpack papers or set of mittens in the backseat. Our main clutter is from our turnout gear (did I mention we're volunteer firefighters?) and my husband's hat and gloves from his security job. The trunk of the Cavalier, like the cargo space of the Trooper, is filled with equipment that we need for firefighting as well as roadside emergencies-tool kit, bag of cat litter, road flares, fire extinguisher, first aid bag (being in fire/rescue and having First Responder training (husband) and EMT certification (me), we have *slightly* more in the way of first-aid supplies than most), firefighting gear, blankets, collapsible shovel, collapsible road cones, antifreeze, engine oil, other engine fluids, and even wheel chocks for when we need to change a tire.

Keeping the car clean is easy since we keep the trash and food clutter to a minimum. We have one of those industrial backpack-type vacuums that was "dumpsterized" at a job site simply because of a clogged filter (which is easy to take care of; all you need is five minutes with an air compressor!). That was saved, mounted on our garage wall, and is now our "car vac." Once-a-month applications and washes in the driveway take care of the dirt and gorm. Odors are almost nonexistent, with the exception of after we run a fire call. When that happens, the gear usually gets chucked into the backseat until we get home to clean it, and the car or truck then reeks of smoke for a week! That's not so bad if it's a house fire or a woods/mountain fire, because those still have a nice "wood-smoky" smell to them. Car fires, barn fires, or field fires are another story-the smell of burnt hay or car fluids/seats/engine is NASTY.

So to answer the question as to whether or not ours are "mom cars," I'd have to say yes and no. They're both used for hauling the kids around, but they're also vehicles owned and used by volunteer firefighters, and they pretty much reflect that!

Posted by: dragondancer1814 | January 20, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

atlmom - love the description of the car progression as the family got bigger. Ours was like that, only a few steps more.

When we got married: me, Datsun 200SX; DW: Camaro
Dog and first kid: those were still okay, although a royal pain in the rear end because both were two-door vehicles
Second kid: Oops - doesn't work any more. Replace Datsun with Ford Explorer (because we lived in Colorado and were in the mountains a LOT!)
Totaled the Explorer (as in "rolled over on I-70 in Kansas"); the fact that we all walked away without a scratch caused us to replace it with another Explorer.
Third kid: Okay, finally time to get rid of the Camaro. Replaced it with a 4-door Ford Escort. (Yes, it WAS as traumatic as it sounds. :-)
Fourth kid: Explorer doesn't work any more; it only seats 5. Replaced it with the first minivan - a Dodge Caravan bought from a friend.
(Replaced the Caravan with a Toyota Sienna - that was a HUGE upgrade, trust me! Gave the Escort to oldest DD when the car was 16 years old. Got a Toyota Corolla for myself. When the Escort finally died - 17 years, 265,000 miles - replaced it with a used Passat bought from another friend. That's the kids' car right now.)

For those who absolutely refuse to let kids eat in the car - good for you; I'm not criticizing. But when you have multiple kids who have to be multiple places and there's no time to stop at home in between, that rule tends to go out the window. Pick up middle DD from swimming lessons and have 20 minutes to get DS to baseball practice and youngest DD to the soccer game - um, dinner is the sandwiches, chips and fruit we packed from home, kids. Eat up!

Posted by: ArmyBrat1 | January 20, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know what you meant by "Mom Car". I'm driving the same car my mom bequeathed to me two months before she died. She bought a 1998 Chevy Cavalier, though in practice as she wasn't really a driver, it was effectively the car I ended up driving. The bequest only made the de facto situation legal on paper.

The car is nearing only 96,000 miles. With less than a mile commute to work, I don't expect to accumulate a lot of mileage.

Sometimes in fact I think if I forced myself to walk or go carless, I think I would be much thinner.

One thing is for certain: Arlandria is an excellent place to live if you do decide to ditch the drive. We have bike trails (biking is excellent for parking jammed on election day), multiple Metrobus routes (and DASH, and I think also ART), and if you want the occasional car, daily rentals near the airport (Enterprise, Budget, Hertz, Avis) and hourly rentals with Zipcar/Flexcar.

Affordable housing might be a problem, though we have many complexes to choose from: Berkeley, Portals of Alexandria, Eaton Square, plus at least three more I don't have names for off the top of my head.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | January 20, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Arlandria also doesn't have the crime of say, Greenbelt. The safety ranking approaches that of a college campus, and with the proximity of where things are, the neighborhood seems about the size of say, Marshall University.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | January 20, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The '88 Celica is pretty clean these days. It stopped being the "family" car a little over eight years ago. (I'm not going to call it, or its replacement, the "mom" car, because I almost never drive the boys anywhere. DH drives them everywhere.) Older son was eight then, and he was getting too tall to fit comfortably in the back seat anymore. At least with the hatchback, we were still able to fit all the "stuff" inside.

So, we bought a Sienna. We still love it! Been all over the country, and it has more than 140k miles.

Yeah, it looks like a "family" car. At least once a week, DH has the boys pull the garbage and recycle bins up to it at the curb, and empty out as much of the trash as possible. But jackets and backpacks, and toys and younger son's cello get left in it all the time. Half the time there's music/audio equipment in the back too, because there's no space for it in our tiny house and we haven't yet hauled the equipment back to the storage unit.

Posted by: SueMc | January 20, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

My 3-year old projectile-vomited all over the back of my husband's car a few weeks ago, and though we have cleaned it over and over, there is still a lingering aroma. Luckily, he claims to be unable to smell it, and I hardly ever drive it.

The amazing thing is that about 90% of the vomit landed on my purse, which was on the floor of the backseat. It amazes me that the tiny amount of puke that actually made contact with the interior of the car can have so potent an odor.

What was the question again?

Posted by: floof | January 20, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

There is a very simple solution to much of this. In my family, daddy drives the 'mommy' car -- a Volvo V70(R) wagon. I don't let the (3) kids (all 6 years old or under) eat in the car--ever--and I limit them to one toy each. All toys leave the car when we get home. As a consequence my 5-year-old car still looks nice, inside and out.

Discipline and rules. Learn 'em.

Posted by: micron26 | January 20, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea from several who posted to use gas fillups as car cleaning time.

Also, for many of us, every Friday is purse and car dejunking day (following the free home organization site flylady.org).

Posted by: jwcjwc | January 20, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Discipline and rules. Learn 'em.

Posted by: micron26 | January 20, 2009 2:49 PM

Excuse me!
ROTFLMAO
Okay, done busting a gut laughing at this.

Sorry to laugh, but after driving from Oakland, to San Diego, to Salt Lake City, to St. Louis, to Rochester, NY, to Baltimore, to Macon, GA, to New Orleans, to Dallas, to Albuquerque, NM, and back home to Oakland on a five week family vacation...

Well, what can I say? "Rules and discipline" probably work just fine for people who haven't done a "look for America" roadtrip, living out of the car - with a diabetic husband (there are always insulin syringes in the ashtray and the CD holder!), an autistic 13-y-o and 8-y-o boys (at that time).

It was a *great* trip, and I wouldn't trade those experiences and memories for any level of discipline or rules - but, of course, the car will never be the same.
(Oh dear, I'm giggling, again! I'll try to contain myself, really, I promise!)

Posted by: SueMc | January 20, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I have two kids, now older. But we had 1 kid for 5 years (before the 2nd came), both my wife and I worked, and our cars were never trashed.

It takes literally 2 minutes to clean the car out when you leave. It seems to me people are being disorganized and lazy and they're looking for confirmation that this is not just normal, but a badge of honor, something to be proud of.

I don't quite understand, but then, after looking at the way people drive and how they raise their kids, I guess I do understand, as much as I'd rather not.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | January 20, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I do not believe in anything such as a MOM CAR. I raised 7 children and now have grandchildren.

The car is not the place to eat, talk on cell phones etc. I always treated and still do, my car as an extention of my home. If it gets messy I clean it.

Posted by: Karren1 | January 20, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

uh rooibos, why on earth would you buy a car with leather seats if you are going to let your kids eat or drink anything in it.

Posted by: Karren1 | January 20, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Actually, if you clean it up quickly, leather interior will stay better looking than fabric. Once the vomit hits the fabric seat, it is pretty much there forever! My younger son threw up on my 5 day old car leather seats and carpet. Yup, just another parental baptism.

And oh boy Karren1 & micron, you sound like a fun parents. Are the kids allowed to play on the lawn?

Floof, welcome to parenthood!

Posted by: Fred_and_Frieda | January 20, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Sue Mc -- I find all of the holier-than-thou-ness rather funny. The presumption seems to be that everyone "should" keep a spotless car and never eat in the car and always pick up any messes instantly and etc. etc. etc. etc. And that, therefore, anyone who doesn't do so is undisciplined, lazy, raising a generation that will be the downfall of our nation, etc.

So. Who says that a spotless car has to be the goal? Who says that never allowing a morsel of food to pass my kids' lips while in a moving vehicle is the highest and best use of all our time and energy and effort?

Fact is, I just don't care that much about my car. Never have, even before kids. I like driving on the open road, and I do the basic maintenance, but I was never one of those people who would spend every Saturday at the car wash. Just not my priority. And adding kids to the mix sure wasn't going to make that any better. I have enough things in my life that I really do need to worry about; I don't need to add "will they get cookie crumbs on the back seat" to my list.

So do my kids eat in the car? Sure, when it would be a bigger pain not to. Like last summer after camp: when they're ravenous and the other option is to watch them enter the Giant Meltdown Death Spiral, well, I'm gonna give 'em a rice cake. And if a bag of cheerios keeps them happy for 30 minutes during a 6-hr drive, I just don't have a problem with that.

I think it's funny because I wouldn't presume that my approach is better than anyone else's -- it's just what works for us. And yet I'm sure hearing a lot of judgmentalism from the folks on the other side.

Posted by: laura33 | January 20, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I understand it (now that I'm done scaring my cube-neighbors with my laughing-fit).

It's just different priorities. For some, the highest priority is cleanliness. A messy / dirty / trashed car is a lack of values, or poor values in that view. And for some, the priority is something else.

My family's priority is being comfortable (and fed!) while we *do* fun stuff, or while we're getting where we're going to do the fun stuff. For us, the most important thing is the activity that was planned. The car will get cleaned up, eventually, but it's not the most important thing on the agenda. For example, I'm pretty sure there's no more beach sand in the back of the van from the stop in San Diego on the '05 roadtrip. But there might still be some lost souvenirs from the Thanksgiving '07 Disneyland trip hiding under a boy's car seat. Next time we go to a commercial car wash (instead of our driveway and garden-hose) and use their vaccuum, we'll find out!

Posted by: SueMc | January 20, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Just to be perfectly clear - food at regular times is a serious priority in our family. DH is an insulin-dependent diabetic, and can go into a coma if he doesn't eat on schedule. Younger son has major meltdowns if he's hungry - "Giant Meltdown Death Spiral" is a nice phrase, Laura, but it really doesn't capture the full experience. Older son will scrounge food (or food-like substances - which can get a little scary) from anywhere, but, so far at least, hasn't crossed any *legal* lines in his pursuit of consumables. If my family weren't ever going to eat in the car, we'd never go anywhere or do anything - BORING!

Posted by: SueMc | January 20, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

One of my coworkers borrowed the car of another coworker known to be a slob. He thought the car smelled bad after he got going down the road. So he commented when he got back that there was a really bad smell in the car. The guy says" oh, yeah my wife had to change the baby' diaper on the way home from our trip this weekend and I haven't gotten around to taking it out yet."

Posted by: majorteddy | January 20, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

One of my coworkers borrowed the car of another coworker known to be a slob. He thought the car smelled bad after he got going down the road. So he commented when he got back that there was a really bad smell in the car. The guy says" oh, yeah my wife had to change the baby' diaper on the way home from our trip this weekend and I haven't gotten around to taking it out yet."

Posted by: majorteddy | January 20, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Laura, though any discussion of parenting seems to bring out the the raised noses. [Like twin_mom, I have a pair and I'm a scientist. Go into most university labs and that will dispel the notion of neatnik scientists.]

We just completed a driving trip from Washington to Boston and back over the Inauguration weekend (DC was shut down Monday and Tuesday, so the timing was good). Snacking in the car cut a good two hours off the return trip . Not allowing kids to eat for ten hours would be cruel IMHO. Sure, we'll work on cleanliness when they're older, but I'm OK with clearing out the car occasionally. Besides, Cheerios make a nice odorent.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 20, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

oh, but I didn't say the big deal thing:

DH had to sell the miata when I was pregnant (and ya know, thinking that we couldn't put a baby in it!). So he sold it to someone who asked why - and he answered the same answer he got from the guy who sold it to him: my wife's pregnant (and insane, I think, was the implied rest of the sentence). In retrospect, he didn't need to sell the jeep, but I HATED that car...

Posted by: atlmom1234 | January 20, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't know that I worry about keeping my car that clean but I try to take out the things that don't belong there. It has lots of leaves on the floor and my reusable grocery bags on the passenger side and CDs piled on the console but very little actual garbage.

The kids aren't allowed to eat in any of the cars. This started about 2 weeks after the kids were initially allowed to eat in the cars and we saw what a huge mess it created. I am not a neat freak but after letting them eat in the car a couple of times, we had an inch of cookie crumbs or whatever all over everything. It was disgusting and I certainly wouldn't let this kind of mess accumulate in my house - which is only passable. I almost never eat in the car and I don't think my husband does either.

I think my husband has a mommy car because his car has stickers on the window and dirt on the back of the front seats from the kids shoes but a mommy car and disgustingly dirty do not have to be synonymous.

Posted by: Billie_R | January 21, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

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