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By Andrea H. Caumont

It used to be, that when it came time for a smitten mother to archive her child's first steps, there were really only two options: enough scrapbooking supplies to make Martha blush, or, as was the case with my family, a plain beige photo album with fingerprint-smudged sticky paper.

But really, let's be honest, who has the time these days? Or printed photos? Its the digital age, and baby books are moving online.

While canned baby books are still an offline option for time-starved non-scrapbookers, they can leave you cold if you're not a fill-in-the-blank kind of person. Alternatively, the books available through online photo-sharing sites are a cool and much more personal option. In addition to photo-sharing and social networking sites, parents can choose from a variety of Web tools that help them create their own online journal of Junior's progress from rosy blob to toddling menace. Friends and family can follow along -- and comment on the way.

So if you're not handy with a glue gun, here are some sites that will help you preserve your little one's formative moments with good old-fashioned ones and zeroes:

Baby books made by photo-sharing sites: Flickr, Shutterfly, Kodak and Smugmug all have options for creating photo books. This has been, by far, the most popular choice of the moms in my PACE group. These sites allow you to quickly share new photos and videos with friends and family and to eventually produce a printed baby book. My friend Ana has been uploading pictures and videos of her daughter to a few photo-sharing sites and has used Snapfish to create "incredibly ridiculous memorabilia like shirts, mugs and magnets" featuring baby Alice. Many of these sites offer feeds so friends and family can be alerted when new pictures are posted.

Baby Web sites and blogs: Babyjellybeans, Babysites, TotSpot, Lil'grams and Kidmondo offer parents the opportunity to really go hog wild with baby's early years. These sites help parents create personalized online baby journals that can be securely shared with friends and family. On Kidmondo, parents can upload everything from medical records to growth charts, while Lil'grams helps parents organize and catalog baby's first foods and first words among other milestones. TotSpot is like Facebook for the under-three-foot-tall crowd.

All of these options for digitally immortalizing our little ones does raise the question: Is this the most over-photographed, over-videoed generation ever? In 30 years, how will our babies feel about having their first bath posted on YouTube? Or will all of these digital memories be so much dust in the world wide wind by then?

That's the reason why, despite embracing all that the interwebs has to offer me, I'll still be creating a real baby book at the end of the first year. For me, no matter how versatile the online tools may be, they can't replace the tangible feel of a printed book. And an open laptop looks way tackier on the coffee table anyway.

What about you? How are you preserving these memories in the digital age? And how do you feel about putting images of your baby online?

Andrea H. Caumont is the mother of one baby boy. Here's one way she's been recording his memories:


By Stacey Garfinkle |  August 19, 2009; 7:00 AM ET  | Category:  Babies
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Andrea must have a lot of free time on her hands...

Posted by: jezebel3 | August 19, 2009 7:34 AM | Report abuse

I guess the question now is which of those websites (or how many of them) paid you to post this today?

Posted by: 06902 | August 19, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

I think this is rather neat for those of us who have limited creativity. I did this for my wedding and created a nice little wedding album on Snapfish.

Posted by: Billie_R | August 19, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

I hate when people say they don't have time to scrapbook yet watch hours of pointless tv etc...in life you make the time to do what you want to do and when you don't like something it's rude to say someone has a lot of time on their hands. Like really how do any of us have time to waste on here? But for whatever reason we choose to waste time posting on here everyday.

Posted by: sunflower571 | August 19, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Serious question" Is that a picture of a naked baby, or is it kidie porn? How can somebody tell the difference?

Posted by: Mako2 | August 19, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Hey Mako,
This has long been one of my favorite legal quotes:

In 1964, Justice Potter Stewart tried to explain "hard-core" pornography, or what is obscene, by saying, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced . . . [b]ut I know it when I see it . . . "

Posted by: VaLGaL | August 19, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

On topic,
I can barely get the photos out of the camera and onto paper. About once a year I manage to devote several hours to putting them into albums. We started a "baby book" but alas, that fell by the wayside early on - it was one of the fill-in-the-blanks kinds. I hope the kid will forgive me for choosing to spend time playing with him instead of writing up an idealized version of what his young life is like.
And, (gasp!) I agree with sunflower on this - it IS a choice about how you want to spend your time and one persons "wasted time" is another persons "quality time..."

Posted by: VaLGaL | August 19, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

we have a ton of photos and videos of the kids and we really enjoy all of the creative ways to print, post and view the content.

between the Mac and the sites listed, you can create amazing (and amazingly affordable) prints and albums.

we don't post anything on public sites (we understand nobody thinks are kids are quite as great as we do), but i love putting video clips together to watch on the apple tv or putting a photo book together for a christmas gift for my wife.

bye bye crusty old photo album. hello professionally printed photo books that cost less than your old film/developing/album and look amazing.

grandma is busy compiling photos for her scrap-booking project. wife and i will appreciate it for the thought, but it'll go straight into the closet since it's really the opposite of our taste. we'll keep it for the kids who will surely get a kick out of it.

when are kids are teenagers, i'm sure they'll be rolling their eyes at the volume of baby/toddler photos and video. but the stuff is for us to enjoy, so i'm not too concerned about it.

Posted by: interestingidea1234 | August 19, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I scrapbook because it includes much more than just photos. There are ticket stubs and cards and menus to include. I guess I could scan that stuff, but that just doesn't feel as authentic. I keep it pretty basic. I've seen some truly beautiful scrapbooking, elevated to art, but I just want to preserve memories. It's pretty utilitarian.

I upload the best pictures so family across the country can watch the girls grow, so it's easy to get copies printed directly from the sites. Videos are a bit harder to deal with. I try to edit them to less than a minute, because, face it, it gets boring quickly.

The biggest challenge I've had is trying to figure out how I would put the books together assuming the girls would some day be interested in them. I decided to do a chronological series of MY life, with pictures of the kids, plus books for each of the girls with all their non-picture stuff included (hospital bracelets, etc).

Next step, kid art! Now, this stuff is great for scanning and making into books...

Posted by: atb2 | August 19, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Well, I wasn't too big on the old tech, and I'm not too big on the new tech. Seems to me the only difference is that our pics are now piled into a file on our computer, instead of piled into a box in our office. :-) I'm just lacking that Martha Stewart gene.

I am a little concerned about how well the electronic stuff will hold up, though. A few months ago, we went through a photo album from the early 1900s, and it was amazing to see my great-grandparents when they were just married. But when I look at DD's baby pics and movies, they're atrocious even compared to DS's, because tech has come so far in such a short period of time. I do worry a little that my future grandkids won't have that same family history laid out, because the electronic media will have changed, degraded, etc. So I am hanging on to the school pics and some hard copies, too.

The one area I really use these websites for is Christmas/Hannukah presents. We have a bunch of grandparents who have all the "stuff" they need, but who really love getting calendars and such with the grandkids' pics on them. It takes maybe a couple of hours to go through the past year's photos, pick some good ones, decide on a layout, and send it in to one of those sites -- we can even change the pics around for the different sets of grandparents without much additional hassle.

Posted by: laura33 | August 19, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

This is timely because I just downloaded about 400 pictures off my camera from the past 9 months. Needless to say my kids don't have baby books, I have never attended a "Creative Memories" Party and probably never will.

I have seen some wonderful keepsake books on-line and handmade. My kids have also been the recipients of some great classroom photo albums and keepsakes throughout the years via room mothers that are the creative types. We also have a parent that puts together a great DVD summary of our football season. Every year I tell this parent "thank you for documenting my child's life, because I am too lazy to do it" and he laughs.

No doubt the digital age makes things extremely easy, but while I can appreciate the end result - I probably won't be doing anything myself.

Posted by: cheekymonkey | August 19, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

When my sisters and I were playing at some time in the basement, we found a baby book for my oldest sister. I guess my mom had gotten it as a gift.
It had about 2 pages filled out. SO not my mom's thing to do. So we had few memories of anything (there were a few photos of all of us, not so many - it was really expensive, who had the time, etc).
I got baby books as presents for both my kids. I'm a lot like my mom, but did fill out a bunch of the books. My MIL, when my kid was tiny, would take out my DH's book - it was a little weird to me, but she's SO into those things.
So we have some stuff put together, tons of photos on the computer, and have uploaded to facebook, etc. But I'd rather live and do, rather than sit and record. (I also find it odd when on vacation and see others who are recording their walks rather than enjoying them. Strange).
I don't think I'd be able to keep up with a baby book on line - at least in front of me, well, it's staring at me. There are plenty of things I *should* be doing and don't and if it's a website I'd have to go to, well, it probably wouldn't be happening.

Posted by: atlmom1234 | August 19, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

The other thing is - my kid's only 7 and we have SO MUCH OF THIS STUFF.
When does it end? How much is too much? It's a little overwhelming.

Posted by: atlmom1234 | August 19, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Laura - the digital age is here! i'm sure there are tons of reason for preferring physical old-school print photos, but quality, ease and longevity and security aren't any of them.

Posted by: interestingidea1234 | August 19, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

atlmom- That's also why I do it. I stay on top of the huge pile of stuff that would otherwise end up in an unorganized heap in a box in a closet. I edit as it comes into the house (ie, I throw away a lot of art projects), and I organize my photos and videos as I download them. You may have 2000 pix, but only about a quarter of them are worth keeping. It's OKAY to throw stuff out. I just don't see the point of taking a bunch of pix if you aren't going to look at them.

Posted by: atb2 | August 19, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: interestingidea1234 | August 19, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

And that's why I married a techie. :-)

Posted by: laura33 | August 19, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I think you make time for whatever interests you.

I kept a baby book of memories for each kid. I did a decent job at filling it out. I did not do all the medical stuff because why would it be intersting to know your vaccination schedule years from now.

I did all the milestone pictures that I keep in a small album at work and the full size pictures in a bigger album at home.

I am also keeping a separate school album for each child. I kept their yearly school picture next to their class room picture.

I did a first year scrap book for my daughter of year one and will probably do one of son. I did this after she turned one. I am actually almost done with it. But we just printed out all the pictures and shoved them in a box. Then I later went through and organized some pictures and tried to put them into the scrap book. This was more motivated by my SIL who is very into scrap booking. It worked out well for me because she had all the supplies already, so I did not have to pay for anything. She could cut all the pictures into nifty shapes and give them fancy borders. She also had all the nice inserts and stickers to embelish them.

I do take some candid pictures but not enough. We tend to print them out and never do much with them. They just sit in boxes.

We are not interested in downloading and passing them on to friends and family either.

I have to ask this but do people, besides parents and grand parents, really want gifts with your kid's picture on it? Both my step sister and sister in law keep passing out holiday gifts with their kids pictures on them. But the look on the faces of the people receiving them, do not look as if they appreciate it.

Posted by: foamgnome | August 19, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

hehe Laura!

atb: actually, we accumulate stuff over a school year, and throw much of it out at the end. And, this year, before school, we looked at stuff from a year ago (the previous school year) and my kid allowed us to throw even more out. So, we hang up the art as it comes in, then parse it along the way. We throw so much out, but keep so much! I always think: well, I want this - then a year or so goes by and we get rid of more and more. Of course, as he gets older, there'll be less art, more sheets we don't need. which is sad, too. ;)

Posted by: atlmom1234 | August 19, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

foam: Oh, I do love seeing everyone's kid's pix! yes. I look at them, and it's nice. These are usually holiday cards I get. I put them around the house. I feel bad throwing them away, but eventually do. It's nice, and yes, I do like them.
We don't do it ourselves - my sister sends out holiday cards around christmas which I would not ever do, I find it a little odd (we're um, jewish).
If I could get my act together to send new year's cards, well, um, now, then I would - but, well, it gets away from us so quickly.

Posted by: atlmom1234 | August 19, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

in our family, the only people subjected to photos as gifts are the grandparents.

Posted by: interestingidea1234 | August 19, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

atlmom: I get the picture cards or the wallet size cards but do people really want a mug, calendar, or a tee shirt with your kid's picture on it.

Last year SIL, passed out snapfish albums that she had made up. Out of the 15 pages of pictures, there was one small picture of our family in it and the rest were of her inlaws. Why would we want an album with family pictures of your in laws?

Step sister sent out tee shirts, calendars and mugs with her kids pictures on it. Frankly her in laws and siblings looked like are you for real?

Posted by: foamgnome | August 19, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I hate when people say they don't have time to scrapbook yet watch hours of pointless tv etc...in life you make the time to do what you want to do and when you don't like something it's rude to say someone has a lot of time on their hands. Like really how do any of us have time to waste on here? But for whatever reason we choose to waste time posting on here everyday.

Posted by: sunflower571 | August 19, 2009 8:13 AM |

Hate away. You say, 'rude'. I say, 'call it as I see it'.

I don't know anyone with elementary age kids who watches hours of tv. Hobbies go by the way side if you work and have kids, particularly elementary age -- that is unless you are operating with a nanny and full-time housekeeper. Time not spent cleaning, supervising homework, or otherwise managing the logistics of a household AND keeping a marriage on an even keel is previous and rare.

The time it takes to post here once or twice a week? a pittance. If you care to focus on creating baby books and scrapbooks in 2 minutes a day 5 days a week, be my guest. If you are devoting more time than that to this creative endeavor, be prepared for someone to legitimately comment that you have a whole lotta time on your hands or your priorities are odd.

Posted by: anonfornow | August 19, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

atlmom: Have you considered doing a picture thank you card? The photo studios do that as well. You can have them printed for the year and just pass them out post holiday and post birthday.

Posted by: foamgnome | August 19, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone tried the "Flip" camera for baby videos?

Posted by: JJ321 | August 19, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Every month I upload our camera photos and I pick my favorite picture of each child (ideally a good picture of the child with other family members and friends we don't see often, or with their favorite toy, or wearing their favorite outfit, etc) and order an extra 5x7 of it. I have special albums I keep for each child with their monthly 5x7s. The album for my oldest child is about to run out of space as he enters kindergarten. It's a great way to look back and see how much they've grown and also when friends and relatives visit we love to look through them and remember the fun times. I plan to keep the albums for myself because I also try to maintain a baby book and baby box for child to have when they are older.

Posted by: Itsme8 | August 19, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Anonfornow:

given your rant about how much time we all must have, i guess you think we all have nannies and maids?

it's a little disingenuous to claim that your life is so busy that anyone who has time to scrapbook must 'have it easy'.

Posted by: interestingidea1234 | August 19, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

this post really spoke to me. i have nothing resembling a baby book for my 7 month old son, yet I have a thriving blog that I update at least 5 times a week with pictures and video of his progress. It started out as a way for our many out-of-town friends and family to keep up with our son and get to "know" him, but I'm concerned that i've been so into the electronic "scrapbooking" that I've been doing that I haven't done something in print. Because who knows what will happen to my blog in 10, 20, 30 years? Perhaps Wordpress will crash, taking all of my carefully crafted documentation of my son's blog with it. Argh. Thanks for the virtual kick in the a__ to get my baby book started!

Posted by: simonecoyle | August 19, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

oh, and JJ321, we have the Flip, and it is awesome. Small enough to fit in my purse and so easy to upload from it. It goes everywhere with us.

Posted by: simonecoyle | August 19, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Because who knows what will happen to my blog in 10, 20, 30 years? Perhaps Wordpress will crash, taking all of my carefully crafted documentation of my son's blog with it. Argh. Thanks for the virtual kick in the a__ to get my baby book started!

Posted by: simonecoyle | August 19, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse


LOL!! 30 years?? The kid must be the friggin' messiah. As Andrea says "an open laptop looks looks way tackier on the coffee table anyway." LOL!!

Posted by: jezebel3 | August 19, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"I don't know anyone with elementary age kids who watches hours of tv. Hobbies go by the way side if you work and have kids, particularly elementary age -- that is unless you are operating with a nanny and full-time housekeeper. Time not spent cleaning, supervising homework, or otherwise managing the logistics of a household AND keeping a marriage on an even keel is previous and rare."

Well, we've got two little kids (elementary and preschool), 2 full-time jobs, no nanny, good marriage -- and yet I will still freely admit that I have time for hours of TV a week. Yes, we are very busy M-F from @ 5:30 AM through @ 8:30 PM. But that still leaves me 1-2 hrs/night and most of the weekend to spend however I choose to spend it. We do have some help -- specifically, a cleaning person every 2 weeks, and a yard guy for the basic mowing. But back when I did that all myself, that accounted for maybe 4 hrs/week. Which still leaves a lot of time for other stuff.

We all get the same number of hours in a week. How you choose to spend it is your business -- but it's still a choice. Personally, I have fairly high tolerance for mess, so I choose less cleaning, organizing, car-washing, etc. We also limit our kids' outside commitments, because I don't want to spend all of my free time playing chauffeur (and I'm personally not a "joiner"-type). I'd rather spend that time cooking from scratch, tending the garden, making jam, etc -- those are things that matter to me. And, yes, I make a point to fit in an hour or so every weeknight either watching TV or reading -- I need that downtime to recharge for the next day.

Are there people out there who absolutely don't have time for hobbies? Absolutely. But when you're working two jobs to pay the bills, you also generally don't spend whatever little free time you do have arguing about it on blogs. For the rest of us, Sunflower's point is absolutely valid. We have time, and we choose to spend it on what matters to us. And it would be pretty disingenuous of me to pretend that I didn't have time to scrapbook because I'm just so uber-busy, when the reality is that I put, oh, 873 other things above it on the priority list.

Posted by: laura33 | August 19, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I'm curious how often folks go back and look at baby pictures, whether in books or in boxes. I like taking pics and sharing them online shortly after an event to show friends and family out-of-area what we've been up to, but rarely do I go back through the sets. It's been years since I took a glance through the photo albums of me and my siblings as kids, and I believe that's true of everyone else in my family. Many of our childhood photos are on slides, and I haven't seen those in 20 years or so. No real desire to track them down either. My husband's family is quite different. Photos all over the house of many generations, annotated albums, and people often go through old books at family events. What's the norm for y'all?

Posted by: kickabout | August 19, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

laura - my sentiments exactly!

most of us have all kinds of choices. too many hours at work? get a new job. commute's too long? move to a smaller place, closer in. too many chores? ask for help or accept a little mess.

and i don't buy the argument that school age=too much work. if they're old enough to keep you busy, they're old enough to do chores.

Posted by: interestingidea1234 | August 19, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I have yet to put an album together for our baby, but I will. We just spent a week at Grandma's house going through a ton of old albums and listening to the stories that went with each of the pictures and events. It can be fun and interesting to go through the albums years later and discover skydiving uncles.

Posted by: cj_atc | August 19, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in scrapbooks, on paper or online. Just not my thing. It's not that I don't have time for it, if I enjoyed it I guess I would make time. I just don't enjoy it. I do take pictures of the kids. They are saved in random places, including electronically.

Posted by: emily8 | August 19, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

This is my 1st week back at work after a 4 month maternity leave. So I am right in the middle of all this.

I have a real baby book, and I am trying to write in the info - first smile, first laugh, photos of the house she came home to....

BUT - I have taken over 500 pictures since she was born. I upload everything to snapfish every few weeks. Close family gets the full package, and they can decide to look at every picture, or just pick a few from the thumbnails. I set up a "favorites" album with 5-10 of the best photos to send to friends and the rest of the family.

AND the best part - I am a scrapbooked. But I really don't have the time, as a single parent, to pick photos, order prints, crop, paste, cut, etc. Snapfish lets you create photo albums using all your uploaded photos. You can choose from lots of page layouts, etc. AND - I can do this in bed, on my laptop, for a few minutes at a time. And I can do it over the course of the year, and order the printed book whenever I'm ready. I plan to do 1 book per year, but if it looks like it's just getting too darn big, maybe I'll do 1 book every 6 months. I like flipping through old photo albums, and kids tend to like to see pictures of themselves as babies, or what mommy looked like back then, etc. And this works with my time available, means I have hard copies as technology changes, etc.

Posted by: JHBVA | August 19, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I have always taken lots of pictures and put them into albums. I love going back over the memories. I have baby books for both of my kids, but I have to admit that I didn't pull them together and get it all done until they were teenagers. The first years were tougher and as they got older I was busy doing current life in albums and never went back until recently to do the baby books. But I like having the actual books. The kids have always loved looking through them. They travel easily, can be taken to anyone's home and shared - grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. And they don't require electricity to function. No long log in process required and I don't have to fight with the rest of the family for computer time when I want to look at the pictures from our trip to the Grand Canyon.

Posted by: singlemom | August 19, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I have a bunch of webpages going back 5 years that I'd like to print out. For awhile I would post a new page every month and they are archived on the web, but I'm nervous they will be lost somehow. I haven't updated in months and months so we may shut down the website after I do the print out-- switch over to something free.

thanks for any info!

Posted by: captiolhillmom | August 19, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks simonecoyle!

Posted by: JJ321 | August 19, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"We all get the same number of hours in a week. How you choose to spend it is your business -- but it's still a choice. Personally, I have fairly high tolerance for mess, so I choose less cleaning, organizing, car-washing, etc. We also limit our kids' outside commitments, because I don't want to spend all of my free time playing chauffeur (and I'm personally not a "joiner"-type)."

ah, yes, we do. You work part-time, for example, e.g., your work commitment is less than many other parents, and many of them do NOT have a choice about that.

If you are proud of limiting your kids' outside commitments because of the impact on your time -- so that YOU have more time to do the things YOU like to do -- you might be the perfect poster child for the parent I had in mine. Someone with time for TV and scrap-booking, while his or her kids grow up around him. Too much time on your hands. There's plenty of time later for hobbies. They are only young once.

Posted by: anonfornow | August 19, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

anonfornow,
You sound like a mess. What's wrong with having time for yourself? It makes for a better parent and spouse. It sounds like all of the things that you are doing for your kids is actually done to make YOU feel better. So, once again, its a personal choice on how to spend your time. I also hope that you at least spend some time exercising. You sound a bit stressed out.

Limiting your kids' outside commitments allows them to actually find out who they are as people. It lets them have some unstructured time to grow without organizanized boundaries.

You sound like a marketer's dream!!!

Posted by: pipe1 | August 19, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't know anyone with elementary age kids who watches hours of tv. Hobbies go by the way side if you work and have kids, particularly elementary age -- that is unless you are operating with a nanny and full-time housekeeper. Time not spent cleaning, supervising homework, or otherwise managing the logistics of a household AND keeping a marriage on an even keel is previous and rare.

The time it takes to post here once or twice a week? a pittance. If you care to focus on creating baby books and scrapbooks in 2 minutes a day 5 days a week, be my guest. If you are devoting more time than that to this creative endeavor, be prepared for someone to legitimately comment that you have a whole lotta time on your hands or your priorities are odd.

Posted by: anonfornow | A

I know people with great jobs and healthy marriages who have kids and manage to have a life. I think some parents enjoy acting like they have no time for themselves. The term for this is MARTYR and your kids will probably hate you in a few years if you keep it up.

Posted by: sunflower571 | August 19, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

If you are afraid of your baby's materials showing up online for everyone to see, I know Lil'Grams is super-secure and will only show the updates to friends and family subscribers. It's not as much a social network, but a very private network for sharing your digital baby book. As a subscriber, you can even set the frequency of updates.

Posted by: mogneva | August 19, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

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