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Blumenthal: "I wore the uniform in Vietnam"

The Stamford Advocate is now claiming to have unearthed another damning quote from Richard Blumenthal, this time from the Veterans Day parade in Stamford on November 9th, 2008:

"I wore the uniform in Vietnam and many came back to all kinds of disrespect. Whatever we think of war, we owe the men and women of the armed forces our unconditional support."

Blumenthal, at his damage-control presser the other day, claimed to have erred in the past by using the word "in" rather than "during." While it's always possible this could be another example of this species of misstatement, on the face of it this one looks pretty bad.

The paper says the source of the quote is its own archives. I'm trying to get hold of the original article, and will keep you posted.

UPDATE, 10:24 a.m.: The Stamford Advocate's librarian sends over the text of the original article covering the event where Blumenthal made the claim. I've pasted it below the fold, with the key part in bold at the end.

11/10/08
Parade sets the pace for Veterans Day
By Devon Lash
Staff Writer

STAMFORD --Some enlisted in the armed services out of family tradition, some out of rebellion and some to fight for freedom.

Whatever their reason, Stamford veterans joined together yesterday to march down Summer Street in the annual Veterans Day parade.

Waving American flags and strands of bells, hundreds of people lined the milelong route to cheer and salute the marching bands, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, elected officials, and most of all, the soldiers. "We always come for the music, the bands, the noise," said Stamford resident Pattie Callahan. "How can we not? Everyone loves it."

This year, Callahan said, her son was able to ride in the Vietnam-era Huey helicopter that was driven down the street in the procession.

The parade drew residents of all ages -- family members of marching veterans climbed on chairs to get a good view, owners left their stores to snap photos with their camera phones, workers stopped by before their Sunday shifts and proud parents cheered on their sons and daughters in the procession.

"Here he comes!" yelled Dominick Bria from his folding chair, which he set up an hour before the parade began. Bria's son, Daniel, a ninth-grader at Westhill High School, plays the bass drum in the school marching band.

Another Stamford resident, Corinne McMahon, watched the marching bands go by with her young son, jumping each time the Colonial-era soldiers fired their long muskets.

"We come to show our patriotism," McMahon said. "My great-uncle fought in the Korean War."

Although the turnout for the parade is hard to gauge, some onlookers and participants said, there seemed to be more people along the sidewalks than last year.

"Our boys are in Iraq, and things have changed this year with the election,' retired Stamford police Officer Joseph Villemaire said. "There are a few more people this year, I think." Patriotic and Special Events Chairman Pat Battinelli said it was "one of the better ones."

But parade Marshal Leonard Pagliano, a World War II veteran, said he was disappointed to see the crowds thin out as he rode down Summer Street. "People should celebrate all the things we did for this country," said Pagliano, who took part in the Battle of the Bulge, one of the bloodiest in the war, with 19,000 Americans dying. "Like I always say, freedom is not free."

Many parade participants informally honored outgoing U.S. Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Bridgeport, for his 21-year service to the region with handshakes and salutes as they passed him along the parade route. Shays was defeated by Democrat Jim Himes of Greenwich in the Tuesday election. This may be his last Stamford Veterans Day parade, Shays said, and "it's heartbreaking to say goodbye."

After the hourlong procession, about 150 of the onlookers gathered in Veterans Park on Atlantic Street to listen to speeches by elected officials and event organizers.

After the band played the national anthem and Marines raised the American flag, state Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said Stamford's parade was the best in the state.

"I wore the uniform in Vietnam and many came back . . . to all kinds of disrespect," Blumenthal told the crowd. "Whatever we think of war, we owe the men and women of the armed forces our unconditional support."

Veterans Day is Nov. 11, a federal holiday commemorating the day in 1918 when the signing of a truce ended World War I hostilities in the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

By Greg Sargent  |  May 20, 2010; 10:04 AM ET
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On various public settings, he has said clearly he didn't serve in Vietnam. Does he have a speech impediment, dyslexia, or something along those lines? This sounds like misspeaking to me.

Posted by: jasonr3 | May 20, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

In various public settings, he has said clearly he didn't serve in Vietnam. Does he have a speech impediment, dyslexia, or something along those lines? This sounds like misspeaking to me.

Posted by: jasonr3 | May 20, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

This whole Blumenthal story has screwed up my perceptions about Vietnam Vets. This not to say I’ve lost my belief that the Vietnam War was a travesty against God, Country, a HUGE waste of human life/national wealth and another example in a long string of Neo-Con, Chicken Hawk, War Profiteering conflicts that are ruining this Great Nation.

Funny thing, but if one really thinks about it… Jane Fonda was in Vietnam longer than Blumenthal, lol.

But I couldn’t help but think is THIS story REALLY important during this time of mass Tribulation and oily corruption.

My problem is caused by those silver spoon so-called journalists presenting this story… Did Blumenthal say “I served IN Vietnam” or did he say “I served DURING Vietnam”? This whole thing presents a problem for me personally.

There’s this homeless guy on the streets I’ve been giving money to for years. Has HE been misrepresenting himself? He has a cap and cardboard sign that identifies him as a Vietnam Vet… (PLEASE HELP) I’m buying him a black Sharpie marker so he can clarify his position IN or DURING.

Of course the REALLY sad, disturbing part of this story is this man is obviously mentally ill, smells like pee and is probably using my coin donations to buy cheap fortified Wine products. If Blumenthal wants to REPENT for misleading his constituency maybe he should go out and use his Family wealth to help his fellow Vietnam Era Association members who are down and out!
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Posted by: SPO1 | May 20, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

"I wore the uniform in Vietnam"?? Sorry, this is inexcusable. He's gone. Finished.

Posted by: VictoriaBalfour | May 20, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

*McMahon Confirms Campaign's Role In N.Y. Times Story On Blumenthal*

Linda McMahon,a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, on Wednesday confirmed that her campaign had a role in this week's New York Times story about Democratic candidate Richard Blumenthal's misstatements about his military career.

McMahon was asked whether her campaign fed the Times information for the story.

"We did," McMahon said. "We've had some role with our research, yes." She did not elaborate.

http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-mcmahon-admits-campaign-role-times-blumenthal,0,7678442.story

Posted by: Ethan2010 | May 20, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Slave Sargent:

What is your problem with the next DemocRat Senator from Connecticut?

None of you moonbats are going to walk away from him...none of them in the party HAVE.

Moonbats will vote their mental programming, and their programming is that voting for a Republican...ANY Republican, is unthinkable.

No matter WHAT kind of lying weasel gets the DemocRat nomination.

It's YOUR party, these are YOUR bedmates, you might as well crawl on in and give it up for this guy.

It seems that only Republicans resign in shame anymore.

Posted by: Bilgeman | May 20, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I still think I called this one right: Blumenthal is a liar. For whatever reason, he has spent years embellishing his military record. If the Dems don't get rid of this clown and do it right now, they will be handing the Senate seat to the GOP. People may not care for the GOP, but they loathe confirmed liars, especially those who embellish their military record.

Blumenthal needs to face the fact that, no matter what, because of his false claims about his military record, he is NOT going to make it to the Senate. It appears that the only issue is whether he is defeated in the general election or whether he salvages what little remains of his dignity and resigns now.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 20, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

The guy is the Attorney General of the State. Does anyone now believe that they guy would put the search for truth and justice ahead of what would make him look good?

I said it from the start. He has to be forced out of the race. Get rid of the creep. There is no upside in trying to put lipstick on this habitually lying pig.

Posted by: Liam-still | May 20, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Country Club Populist, Rand Paul, who is the new Darling of The Republican Party's Tea Party Operation, comes out in favor of letting restaurant owners refuse to serve people on the basis of their skin color.

Country Club Populatist, Mini Ron, says that owners of private businesses have the right to refuse to serve people based on their race. That means that he must also support rental property owners, doctors, private schools, country clubs, etc, also discriminating on the basis of race.

Wasn't it just yesterday that Country Club Populist, Mini Ron, was claiming that the days of discrimination, based on race, were over, thanks to Tiger Woods. Now he turns right around, and laments that the Civil Rights bill took away the right of such places to discriminate.

Scratch A Tea Bagger Favorite, and you will uncover a Lester Maddox style Racist!!!

Posted by: Liam-still | May 20, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Liam, it will be quite entertaining to watch Michael Steele try to embrace Rand Paul.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | May 20, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Faltulent Manlet:
"If the Dems don't get rid of this clown and do it right now, they will be handing the Senate seat to the GOP. People may not care for the GOP, but they loathe confirmed liars, especially those who embellish their military record."

Uh-huh...like John Kerry?

You'll pardon me if I don't hold my breath.

Where is the Washington DemocRat groundswell calling for this fraud to resign his candidacy?

Where is the Connecticut DemocRat groundswell to impeach this liar from the office of Attorney General?

Nowhere.

They're quite to the contrary, circling the wagons around him and hoping that by November this will be "old news" and the electorate will be told to "move on", that his "mis-speaking" wasn't "intended to deceive", and that "it doesn't rise to the level of denying him their vote for the opportunity to work for the people of Connecticut".

It's all just a product of the Rethuglikkkan attack machine anyway, right?

Look at Meme-Master Sargent's copy on this subject.

He REALLY, REALLY wants to find a way for this guiy to beat the rap, but the ecord shows what it shows.

And without any of the "fake but accurate" CBS make-believe with which they smeared George Bush's military service.

Posted by: Bilgeman | May 20, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse


Never trust a BSer. Period. I was only vaguely aware of this guy until he threw his hat into the ring, yet since then I've seen pictures of him at the White House from the '70s. Never have I seen a pic of him in the jungle. Duh.

The Dems need to uncircle the wagons pronto.

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | May 20, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Let me add, I find "during Vietnam" and "during the Vietnam era" to be blurry and BS-y, if technically correct.

I mean, even W with his war-avoidance and then plum placement into the Alabama Air National Guard never said stuff like, "I served during the Vietnam era."

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | May 20, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

Two Requests:

See if you can find out what Quitter Palin's Palm has to say about the Country Club Populist, Mini Ron's, views on business owners having the right to discriminate on the basis of race?

Also, see if you can uncover who was behind putting the Seventy Five million dollars limit on liabilities restriction into the off shore oil drilling regulations.

That is a pittance compared to what the real damage coasts always turn out to be. Such a small amount would actually be an incentive to BP to not spend much time and money on safety drills and technology.

We need to expose who the weasels were who put the liability cost fix in for the Oil Companies.

Any of you folks know what the history of that liability fix is?

Posted by: Liam-still | May 20, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Bilgeman: please oh please, try a little harder. to wit: 'It seems that only Republicans resign in shame anymore.' Let's do the rundown: Ensign, cops to sexual harrassment in the workplace and THEN gets caught doling out $96k in hush money; Vitter, carrying on with women of the night in at least two cities; Sanford, still walking the Appalachian Trail with his 'soulmate.' get some sleep, turn off fox news and don't forget to take your meds. your intellectually shallow observations about 'only Republicans' confirm every stereotype about slow-witted conservadopes. congrats, Bilgeman.

Posted by: MMinMd | May 20, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Keep trying, angry folks. Here in the very quoted sentence is a clear case of the guy putting some distance between himself and those who went to Vietnam. If he really wanted to push the story that he was there, why wouldn't he say, "I wore the uniform in Vietnam, and I came home to all kinds of disrespect"? Or even "we came home", or "many of us came home"? Instead he put it, "many came home to all kinds of disrespect". Apparently he occasionally leans toward ambiguous phrasing associating himself with service in that conflict, but the hedging is never far off. These "damning" quotes don't even qualify as B.S.; they are just muted truthfulness. For that, veterans are supposed to rush to Linda McMahon?

Posted by: J_Whick | May 20, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

There's nothing ambiguous about " I wore the uniform in Vietnam." He'll drop out within a week.

And mind you, the Hearst corporation is digging through their treasure trove of Blumenthal archives as we speak. More to come.

Posted by: VictoriaBalfour | May 20, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

He was all over the map. You don't have to be that nutty lying putz who got booted out of Harvard and didn't get the job at the New Republic to be a cheater. Just plaigiarize a leetle beet, and you're a cheat.

This guy could be the greatest thing ever, but he screwed up in a way that makes him damaged goods. Harsh, but that's life in the big leagues.

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | May 20, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I agree with J_Whick and MMinMd. Big f-n'g deal. Republicans ought to clean up their own moral/social/political pigsty before they attempt to smear Democrats who misspeak.

But we know that'll never happen.

Repub wing*nuts still insist on bringing up the "57 states" even though examination of the statement IN CONTEXT reveals it was obvious "fifty" was said instead of "forty" by a very tired campaigner.

But it's more fun to take words out of context, and what may be a case of dyslexia regarding Blumenthal, and blather endlessly about those nitpicking issues until they become the message.

People are wising up to these Republican tactics.

Posted by: kayjay503 | May 20, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

how is it that Bilgeman can find discredited swiftboat attacks on a bronze and silver star winner who got three purple hearts (that would be john kerry) to be the unimpeachable truth while seemingly ignoring that the bush '04 campaign never disputed the gist of rather/mapes report on potus43's missing year in alabama? is Bilgeman double jointed? or just an intellectual half-ass?

Posted by: MMinMd | May 20, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

We Liberals should not set our standards, on who we will support, based on the Republican's low standards.

If you don't like it when the Republicans do it, then stop using them as an excuse to try and rehabilitate this liar in our ranks.

He kept trying to leave the impression that he was a Viet Vet.

He has to go.

Posted by: Liam-still | May 20, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

We Liberals should not set our standards, on who we will support, based on the Republican's low standards.

If you don't like it when the Republicans do it, then stop using them as an excuse to try and rehabilitate this liar in our ranks.

He kept trying to leave the impression that he was a Viet Vet.

He has to go.

Posted by: Liam-still | May 20, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

OT but worth a read:

*Oil Trade With Iran Thrives, Discreetly*

An oil tanker named Front Page, chartered by Royal Dutch Shell PLC, left this port on March 17 and reported it was going to another U.A.E. port, then on to Saudi Arabia, ship-tracking data show.

But the tracking information reveals that Front Page also made an unreported stop—to the coast of Iran. There it loaded Iranian oil, according to records obtained by oil traders and shipping sources.

The incident, some oil-industry experts say, is an example of how some companies these days are hiding their business dealings with Iran, even when they are perfectly legal because they aren't subject to any sanctions.

Another oil tanker that stopped in Iran in March, which oil traders say was chartered by Total SA of France, turned off its tracking transponder throughout the visit, according to ship-tracking data.

[...]

Companies like Shell and BP have said they have stopped selling gasoline to Iran. But they rarely mention that they continue to buy crude or other Iranian oil products, which generally is a much larger and more lucrative business than gasoline deliveries.

Iran only imports about 100,000 barrels of gasoline a day. The country currently exports about 2 million barrels of oil a day—down from about 2.6 million in 2008.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703691804575254554231664686.html

Isn't it "funny" that the same Right Wingers who want to bomb the crap out of Iran for their nuclear program...

...express undying support for the oil industry that helps FUND their nuclear program?

"Funny" eh?

Posted by: Ethan2010 | May 20, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

There is something pathetic and needy in all this that is quite different from that euphemism of misspeaking. But here's a fact: Blumenthal has repeatedly misrepresented who and what he was. It doesn't matter if Republicans have done worse and this isn't about who planted the story or about coverage in the NYT. Aren't there other Democrats in CT? Why saddle the party and Senate with somebody who walks in the door tainted with dishonesty over one of the most deeply felt issues of the last half century?

Posted by: AllButCertain | May 20, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I am a retired Marine combat veteran and the father of another one.

Let's be clear. Richard Blumenthal is a scoundrel of the very lowest order. "Misstatements" or even excuses of "resume padding" does not even begin to describe the mendacious nature of Blumenthal's imaginary claims of service in Vietnam.

Sorry Dick,
What you so richly crave now cannot be had for all of the money, power, and privilege in the world. Back then, however, you seem to have exercised all three of these things in order to avoid ever having to "know the hell where youth and laughter go."

Coward is thy name.

And so it goes...

Posted by: pgould1 | May 20, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

He's not the first politician to lie about his military service and he won't be the last. But he should at least have the dignity to step aside or be totally freakin honest, because his explanations are total BS. I really think he's been "fibbing" about this for so long that he can't even keep his story straight.

This guy is not some larger than life candidate like Barack Obama. He's not destined for greatness. Something tells me CT and the senate would function just fine without him. Let's show some principles and make an example out of him. We don't tolerate liars, fibbers, or "chronic mis-speakers", especially not when it comes to a life or death situation like combat experience. I don't care what his other credentials are and I don't care what role the NYT or McMahon played in this story. The evidence is overwhelming.

Posted by: SDJeff | May 20, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Why are we still covering this story?

We have an oil spill is filling out the gulf and is ready to hook around to the east coast. You have the President standing by as BP continues to refuse to hand over information. You have Republicans blocking any attempts to avoid having the tax payer pay for clean up.

And THIS is the event we must harp on?

I don't get it. IMO, there are much bigger oilier fish out there.

Posted by: Alex3 | May 20, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Blumenthal is not only a DRAFT DODGER, he's a TRUTH DODGER. Saying he misspoke is like saying Nixon misspoke about Watergate. It's time to for Blumenthal to end his lies, his campaign and step down as Attorney General. Blumenthal must go.

It's too bad John McCain, a true Vietnam hero is not President, unlike the Boy Islamic Ghetto Trash that resides in the White House.

Posted by: LdSentinal | May 20, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"It's too bad John McCain, a true Vietnam hero is not President, unlike the Boy Islamic Ghetto Trash that resides in the White House."

Hey Everybody! The KKK got a computer!

Posted by: wbgonne | May 20, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"is Bilgeman double jointed? or just an intellectual half-ass?"

MMinMD, I think he's more like an unintellectual full ass.

Posted by: SDJeff | May 20, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Rev. Wright got a computer first.

Posted by: LdSentinal | May 20, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

"unlike the Boy Islamic Ghetto Trash that resides in the White House."

That's the most shockingly racist thing I've read in quite some time.

Posted by: SDJeff | May 20, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"Saying he misspoke is like saying Nixon misspoke about Watergate"

HAHA!

Yeah right. Exactly the same.

He misspoke while DEFENDING the troops and calling for better treatment. Even if it was purposeful attempt to mislead it's STILL acceptable in my book. Though, as I've said before, I can perfectly understand why combat vets like pgould1 would not be able to forgive him. Thank you for your service, sir. I just think that, in sum, Blumenthal's record of defending the military veterans and standing with them for better treatment is thoroughly commendable and should be noted along side of every attempt at parsing his public statements.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | May 20, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah right indeed, Blumenthal purposely lied about his military service just like Nixon lied about his knowledge of Watergate.

"I AM NOT A CROOK" - Nixon

“I wore the uniform in Vietnam, and many came back to all kinds of disrespect." - DICK Blumenthal

Manager Tim Johnson stepped down after his lies were exposed about his non-service in Vietnam and so should Blumenthal. Look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Johnson_(baseball)#Vietnam_War_stories_controversy

Posted by: LdSentinal | May 20, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Look, "in Vietnam" can arguably mean "in the overall Vietnam war effort/period, including stuff going on in the US."

I'm not defending Blumenthal, but I'm getting tired of having to re-parse all the statements myself because the media commentators are lazily conflating damning statements with defensible ones.

Posted by: neversaylie | May 20, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

There's no need to parse the phrase " I wore the uniform in Vietnam."

This is an outrage.

Posted by: VictoriaBalfour | May 20, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Blumenthal is a skilled attorney. Most of the time, his claims about Vietnam service came when he was giving prepared remarks.

Lawyers know all about how to use words to their advantage. This guy is a high powered lawyer, who knew what he was putting into his prepared remarks, and why he was doing so.

He was trying to leave the impression that he had served in Vietnam.

This old Liberal says he must go now. Democrats, find another candidate.

Posted by: Liam-still | May 20, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

All, new thread on Rand Paul:

http://bit.ly/chqjJF

Posted by: Greg Sargent | May 20, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Please Bilgeman, recognize yourself. I'm sure you voted for the draft dodgers Cheney and Bush and brushed away the latter's lies about service with the Alabama Guard and listen to that other draft dodger Rush and his blather.

Posted by: roscym1 | May 20, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

As CT's Attorney General, Blumenthal's office sent people to jail for lying to appointed officials (convicted only of a poor cover-up and not of a crime).

However, here we have Blumenthal lying as it benefits his political aspirations. His challenger, Rob Simmons, actually did serve in Vietnam and in the military overall for 37 years.

This is just the latest of Blumenthal's prima donna escapades (see suing the ACC for recruiting BC from the Big East and other wasteful efforts). He is a master of earning headlines, but litte else. This time, however, he earned a headline that he could not control. Get lost, Richard.

Posted by: mellwood1 | May 20, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

"It seems that only Republicans resign in shame anymore."

aaaaah if only....

I'm still waiting for Mr. Sanford, Mr. Ensign, and Mr. Vitter to resign in shame.

Mr. Craig should have also when he had the chance.

Posted by: vigor | May 20, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

bilge,
I view anybody who lies about their military service as cowards. Period. Party affiliation or ideology means nothing to me in this concern. Anybody who does this is Huhnscheiße. (That’s German for poultry dung.)

You have shared with us that you are a veteran. Yet, you continue to push the repugnant lies smearing John Kerry’s service to his country. Unless you can provide irrefutable evidence supporting your libelous claims, you should just S*** T** F*** U*.

How many medals did you get in ‘Nam? I’m willing to bet that Kerry shed a hell of a lot more of his blood in combat than you did. How much complaining have you done about that Huhnscheiße Bush who found safe stateside duty in the National Guard too boring and went AWOL? How much scorn do you heap on the head of the big 5 deferment Dick? Save us your selective outrage. You don’t give a fat rat’s @ss about honor, bravery, or patriotism. You’re willing to chuck all of that in favor of lockstep political conformity.

Any veteran who would willingly smear and dishonor another veteran - especially someone with a unassailable record as a bona fide war hero like Kerry - simply because they don’t mouth the “right” political views is no better than Blumenthal. Kerry proved his manhood on the field of battle. Your cowardly actions here provide an accurate measure of your manhood.

You are a loathsome and despicable liar and a coward who places loyalty to party over loyalty to country and to one’s fellow soldiers.

But, please, feel free to lecture us all on duty, honor, and service to one’s country.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 20, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Count on libs getting confused about this. Count on them thinking anger over Blumenthal is about his service in a non front line position in Vietam.

That is not the issue, libs.

The issue is this man is claiming through statement or inference to have put his life on the line for this country in a callous attempt to mine that for political value.

If a man will stoop to lying, omissions, and misleading partial truthes in the name of getting elected, then that man is not trustworthy and should not hold public office.

This is a credibility and honesty issue, not a nature of service issue.

Posted by: Wiggan | May 20, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't think this should be taking up our time right now. I'm sure there's an army of journalists studying his prepositions, and I much appreciate it, but...maybe we can assume that he was a little vague about what he was doing while he was in uniform during the Vietnam War, and let readers make their own conclusions. Korea is about to explode, the Gulf is gone, and why the hell have we forgotten Haiti, and why didn't we ever learn about Nashville?

Posted by: jrbarry63 | May 20, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

This is all much ado about nothing. We don't have the transcript from the event - we have a reporter's recollection of what was said, and if Blumenthal misspoke, and said "in Vietnam" instead of "during Vietnam", then it makes it exactly the same kind of mistake that was uncovered on Monday! And he's already admitted that he misspoke at times, and there's already a TON of evidence that he typically very carefully described his service as not including a tour of Vietnam.

Given that he has repeatedly said that he didn't serve in Vietnam, it makes no sense to assume that he told the truth hundreds or thousands of times and lied twice. It only makes sense to assume that he told the truth thousands of times and misspoke twice!

Posted by: slouise217 | May 20, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe this guy needs to resign and rethink his life.... Something smells bad here...

Posted by: robinhood2 | May 20, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

wiggan,
I've counted exactly ZERO libs who "[think] anger over Blumenthal is about his service in a non front line position in Vietam." That is your straw man attack upon liberals. Straw men are for people who don't have any substance to their arguments. Nobody is criticizing Blumenthal because he served in the Marine Reserves. That is the same kind of ridiculous tripe that was used to defend W's cowardly act of going AWOL. Blumenthal is being criticized because he inflated his military record, both actively and passively.

If you notice, I have been among the most unsympathetic critics of Blumenthal and I might very well win the title for the most liberal regular poster on the PlumLine. If he had simply said "I served in the Marine Reserves," NOBODY would be criticizing him. He is a coward and a liar and should resign.

Quit engaging in your convoluted attempts to impugn liberals in this. This is about the fact that Blumenthal is a self aggrandizing liar, nothing more.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 20, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Many liberals ARE scrambling to defend or excuse this despicable liar.

Blumental himself tried the straw man argument that he would not allow anyone to impugn his service.

That was perhaps the most despicable thing of all that he's said. It showed the full measure of his craven dishonesty and utter lack of accountability. Think his over the top rah rah "support for the troops" might just be a little overcompensation?

He is lying scum of scum, and all his liberal defenders -- they are legion -- are hypocrites.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 20, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm confused. No one disputes that Blumenthal enlisted in the Marine Reserves in 1970. Does that not count at being a veteran and wearing the uniform?

Was enlisting in the Marine Reserves really the equivalent of being a "draft dodger"?

I'd like to hear from some Marine reservists on that one.

Posted by: Tim28 | May 20, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

"He's not destined for greatness"

Sorry to inform you that neither is Obama.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 20, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm being tough on Blumenthal. But Alex Pareene at Salon just reminded me that Lindsay Graham lied about serving in Desert Storm--in printed materials. He got nowhere near the Persian Gulf.

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | May 20, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

WHEN ARE THESE DUMB POLITICANS GOING TO WAKE UP,EVERY WORD THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH IS ON TAPE SOME WHERE. IF YOU AS STUPID AS BLUMENTHAL IS, THEN THIS COUNTRY DOSE NOT NEED AN OTHER JERK IN GOVERNMENT.
MR. BLUMENTHAL QUIT NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

Posted by: cj362810 | May 20, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

That Pareene Salon piece is pretty thin gruel. Read it all carefully. I don't think much of Graham, but he did not lie, let alone worse than Blumenthal who repeatedly and explicitly did so.

If you want to find an earlier example of a phony combat vet Senator, just look up Tom Harkin.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 20, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

It is clearly evident that Mr. Blumenthal lacks an understanding of the concepts of honor and integrity. This isn't about anyone else, of any political stripe, who did, or did not, serve in Vietnam or any other combat theater. It's about this specific man lying for potential political gain. People of honor and integrity will rightfully reject and shun him. Those lacking a clear moral compass will equivocate and rationalize. That so many attempt to dissemble, distract, and divert bodes ill for our country.

Posted by: jpost1 | May 20, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"Blumental himself tried the straw man argument that he would not allow anyone to impugn his service. That was perhaps the most despicable thing of all that he's said. It showed the full measure of his craven dishonesty and utter lack of accountability."

I'm with you on this one, QB. If Blumenthal tries to game this thing any further, if he doesn't fess up right quick, he's unacceptable as a candidate. Dems can do better than this.

Posted by: wbgonne | May 20, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the number of past speeches about Vietnam service will pop out like the number of women that were involved with Tiger Woods.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | May 20, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

wb,

I do respect your comments on this. A few on the left here have been very stand up, some very much to my surprise (although not you or SDJeff -- Gasman, on the other hand, has shocked me).

There are some lies for which pols don't get a pass and ought not to. Neither party should want someone with this record carrying its banner.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 20, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Gasman1,

Take a long look at what I said again,

"Count on libs getting confused about this. Count on them thinking anger over Blumenthal is about his service in a non front line position in Vietam. "

In order to head off that dead end, I predict that is where it is going to head, and defeat that case to end that line of reasoning before it starts. This service question came up during swiftboating under Kerry, so it is not some far fetched unrealistic reasoning scenario. Rather than rehash the same arguments that cropped up with Kerry, I hope we can quit them by proving their irrelevance before they are made.

You and I agree on the man's worth. You state:

"This is about the fact that Blumenthal is a self aggrandizing liar, nothing more."

I state:

"The issue is this man is claiming through statement or inference to have put his life on the line for this country in a callous attempt to mine that for political value."

We agree, plain and simple.

I stand corrected however on my blanket statement regarding liberals. I should have said "Blumenthal supporters" instead of "libs"

The apologist that set me off was this...

Roscym1 : "Please Bilgeman, recognize yourself. I'm sure you voted for the draft dodgers Cheney and Bush and brushed away the latter's lies about service with the Alabama Guard"

***clearly this guy thinks the issue is form of service rather than representation of service

Posted by: Wiggan | May 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Slave Sargent:

What is your problem with the next DemocRat Senator from Connecticut?

None of you moonbats are going to walk away from him...none of them in the party HAVE.

Moonbats will vote their mental programming, and their programming is that voting for a Republican...ANY Republican, is unthinkable.

No matter WHAT kind of lying weasel gets the DemocRat nomination.

It's YOUR party, these are YOUR bedmates, you might as well crawl on in and give it up for this guy.

It seems that only Republicans resign in shame anymore.

Posted by: Bilgeman
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I'm a progressive that would have no trouble voting for a Lugar, Crist or Schwatzneggar. I thought Alan Simpson was better than nearly all the Democrats in office. I hope Reid loses, not because I want a Tea Party type senator but he is ineffective and his replacement (Schumer or McCaskill) far better at leading the senate.

Posted by: jameschirico | May 20, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Blumenthal: "I wore the uniform in Vietnam"
The Stamford Advocate is now claiming to have unearthed another damning quote from Richard Blumenthal, this time from the Veterans Day parade in Stamford on November 9th, 2008:

After the band played the national anthem and Marines raised the American flag, state Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said Stamford's parade was the best in the state.

"I wore the uniform in Vietnam and many came back . . . to all kinds of disrespect," Blumenthal told the crowd. "Whatever we think of war, we owe the men and women of the armed forces our unconditional support."

If I were a Democrat, either registered or in philosophy, I would be very ashamed and embarrassed that this man represents my party. NO!!! I am not a republican.

It is very apparent to me that to many liberals (Socialists), morality is secondary, to that of being "politically correct". Morality, under the Obamanation adminstration is being replaced by relativism.

As a Vietnam Veteran, having serve IN South Vietnam in 1968, I must ask why the democrats are not demanding that this LIAR withdraw his candidacy from the senatorial race in Connecticut?

He has lied on more than several occasions conserning his service IN South Vietnam and about his errant claim of having been the Captain of the Harvard swim team (which he was never even on the swim team at Harvard).


Posted by: A_lite_to_the_blind | May 20, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"Slave Sargent:

What is your problem with the next DemocRat Senator from Connecticut?

None of you moonbats are going to walk away from him...none of them in the party HAVE."

..etc, etc. etc

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I always gets me that most often those claiming intellectual superiority write with the elegance of a 6 year old.

Posted by: jblanchard1 | May 20, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I understand the furor this has caused. I am always careful to say that I served in the US Navy DURING the Viet Nam era. I do not want to give the impression that I served IN Viet Nam. Friends of mine died in Viet Nam. That was and still is very painful. They told us as we were leaving boot camp at Great Lakes, Ill. that we could not volunteer for Viet Nam, that the Navy takes who it needs. I am grateful they did not need me. That war was BS. If I was alive in December of 1941, I would have enlisted on December 8th like my father did. Hitler was one thing, the Viet Cong another. The military-industrial complex at its worst. Ike's warnings went unheeded.

Posted by: chopin224 | May 20, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

A Vietnam Veteran, or a Vietnam "Era" Veteran?

Would it be wrong to claim you "fought" in Vietnam, if you didn't fight? Probably yes!

Would it be wrong for a World War II veteran to say that he was a World War II veteran if he didn't have any bullets zipping over his head? I don't think so!

My own dad was a little too old to serve on the field of battle during World War II, but he wore the uniform and was shipped out to serve in a military hospital in England.

He always talked about the V-1 German Buzz-Bombs flying in and causing havoc. I still respect him considerably for his service, just as much as anyone who served in the invasion at Normandy, Omaha Beach, Sainte Mére Eglise, or any of the brave soldiers on board any of the LST's during the invasion.

He served his country during a difficult time in our nation's history, just like hundreds of thousand of other men and women.

Why would we want anyone to denigrate their service service to our country, just to gain political points.

Now that's a pretty disgusting issue!


Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | May 20, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Flatulent Manlet:
"Any veteran who would willingly smear and dishonor another veteran - especially someone with a unassailable record as a bona fide war hero like Kerry - simply because they don’t mouth the “right” political views is no better than Blumenthal."

Really? So what does that make John Kerry when he came home and began attacking our war effort and making common-cause with the "BABYKILLER!" crew?

By your OWN mouth you have indicted him.


"Kerry proved his manhood on the field of battle. Your cowardly actions here provide an accurate measure of your manhood."

Awww, you seem envious of my alpha status, perfectly understabl;e from an insecure and whiny little beta-male like yourself.

The fact of the matter is is that the complaints against John Kerry originiated from those who served with and under him.

That's a whole different kettle of fish, (although booger-eaters like you will never admit it).

Reading between the lines of what their complaint was, what he was was a showboating medal-hunter.

I put a LOT of stock in what a man's shipmates have to say about him...and most of them say he was a dirt-bag.

"How many medals did you get in ‘Nam?"

I was 11 when your Commie heroes captured Saigon.

How many medals did the NVA award to you, man-let?

And will you slobbering morons kindly stop endlessly dragging up Cheney's 5 deferments?

The man has had more than 5 heart attacks, starting back in the 1970's, FFS.
It's pretty obvious that there is and was something wrong with the guy's pump, so he likely would have been 4-F'd in any event.

But I know that that doesn't matter. Can't keep a moonbat beta-male from being a punk-@ss...it's what they ARE.

Posted by: Bilgeman | May 20, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Just a couple of simple comments Bilgeman:

First check out the following website to find the truth about John Kerry's service.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

Say what you want about the man's politics, but I'd be more than willing to experience a firefight while being in the company of the Senator, than with a former President.

I'd know I could depend on him.

And after listening to your stupid ranting, someone like you would be right behind George Bush.

Skirts were made just for that purpose!

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | May 20, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

wow, bligeman's got some serious emotional baggage he's toting around: barely contained rage lying just beneath the surface. i'd hate to have to live in his skin. some truly warped views about duty, service and honor.

Posted by: MMinMd | May 20, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad John McCain, a true Vietnam hero is not President, unlike the Boy Islamic Ghetto Trash that resides in the White House.

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You sound pretty angry, bud? Hope you choke on it.

Posted by: sr31 | May 20, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

John Kerry ran for President as a self-proclaimed war hero. Lots of men who served with him begged to differ.

The public turned him away despite an all-out media assault on his opponent as an AWOL coward.

Nuff said.

For Democrats, it seems that military service is a necessary qualification, and something to be exploited, every once in a blue moon when it serves their purposes.

But they have no problem backing a bona fide lying draft dodger like Bill Clinton against two bona fide war heroes, nor a metrosexual psedointellectual who never would have considered military service (but did find time as a pot-smoking undergrad to write anti-military editorials), and his bellicose five-deferment VP, over yet another genuine war hero.

And now they might have another Senator who lies about fighting in Vietnam to join "combat pilot" Tom Harkin.

Now Bernie can go ahead with his next hypocritical rant about how Democrats have license because of how corrupt and immoral Republicans are.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 20, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Someone had better sit this man down and tell him to forget the Senate. Anyone who "misspeaks" about where he served during the Vietnam War has a screw loose. Those of us who lived through it also know that average guys were drafted as soon as they graduated or dropped a course. Sons of the wealthy or connected stayed in school or were ushered into the guard and reserves.

Posted by: MNUSA | May 20, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

qb1: were those fellow vets with kerry all throughout the '04 primaries just props? dupes? remember the guy who kerry hadn't seen in 30 or so years who showed up at a rally in iowa? i do. it was a reunion of comrades, the genuine thing. the swiftboaters went after kerry not over what happened that day way back when, they tore him down for ideological reasons. (exhibit one: unapologetic $$$-backer t. boone pickens.) on to potus43: his campaign never disputed the gist of his year-long gone-missing-in-alabama excellent adventure. sent gonzo out in '98 to scrub his 'military record' clean, remember? you're entitled to your views, but not your particular set of facts.

Posted by: MMinMd | May 20, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

qb1: sorry to have to correct you again. this time re clinton. he wasn't dodging the draft, he was a rhodes scholar. how very convenient, right? that's how he ended up traveling that time to moscow -- where every self-respecting wingnut knows he was really getting his manchurian candidate training from his kgb case officers. dodging the draft? so mundane and cliched. and we all know b-job bill never goes in for anything mundane or cliched. one last thing: why do you think it is so many people believe clinton did a pretty good job as president?

Posted by: MMinMd | May 20, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

The aptly named Gasman1 | May 20, 2010 1:45 PM - had my eyes rolling about his Kerry is a War hero with an unassailable record" claims.

But for the record, the Left, including Blumenthal have come to lionize any who "served in Vietnam" while sneering at reservists, people who did dangerous duty elsewhere.
My Dad was active duty Marines in the Vietnam era. Never saw Vietnam. But he took a bullet fragment in the side and wrecked his knee dragging some guy out of a sinking boat - when LBJ dispatched him to Santo Domingo in 1965. Then off to Iran, helping track Soviet espionage agents crossing the Border. He was never shot at, but others were (not by Soviet spies but people sneaking across the Border who were garden variety armed smugglers not-wanting-at-all to be guests of The Savak.
The Navy AF and active duty ground forces were in some serious Cold War duty - just as important as "being in 'Nam" as liberals like to say it. Reservists like Bush flew the most risky jet ever made in a large run - the F-102. He could have been sent abroad at any time. As was, his fellow Reservists were the ones confronting Soviet bombers testing air defenses - armed with live missiles. One AF reservist friend of my dad's spent his time in a depot maintaining tritium in thermonuclear weapons.
Richard Blumenthal was in DC spearheading the local Toys for Tots program.

Posted by: ChrisFord1 | May 20, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

"I wore the uniform in Vietnam" excludes you apologists who want to say this liar mis-spoke or was quoted out of context. I watched the video -- all of it -- and Blumenthal lied straight out, no doubts about it. I don't care much for McMahon but I'd vote for her rather than a man who stole his "bravery" with a lie. I'm a vet and one thing honorable men do not do is lie about their military record. BLUMENTHAL IS DISHONORABLE AND NOT WORTHY OF PUBLIC TRUST.

Posted by: RonKH | May 20, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

MMinMD:

Your history is imaginary, your arguments fallacious.

"qb1: were those fellow vets with kerry all throughout the '04 primaries just props? dupes? remember the guy who kerry hadn't seen in 30 or so years who showed up at a rally in iowa? i do."

Who ever claimed he had no support from vets? It doesn't change the fact that many vets -- probably a preponderance -- who served with him came out against him and said he was unfit.

"the swiftboaters went after kerry not over what happened that day way back when, they tore him down for ideological reasons."

Their criticisms were entirely directed to his conduct in service and his disgraceful Winter Soldier behavior. You have no basis even to suggest that they had monolithical ideological motivation.

"his campaign never disputed the gist of his year-long gone-missing-in-alabama excellent adventure. sent gonzo out in '98 to scrub his 'military record' clean, remember?"

No, because you are reciting fantasies from leftwing blogs and Dan Rather. You're just another "fake but accurate" ideologue.

"qb1: sorry to have to correct you again. this time re clinton. he wasn't dodging the draft, he was a rhodes scholar. how very convenient, right?"

You obviously don't know the facts. He avoided the draft by promising to join ROTC, which he never did. Because, in his own words, he "loathed the military."

"why do you think it is so many people believe clinton did a pretty good job as president?"

This is relevant how? I think many people are uninformed, lack sense, judgment, and wisdom.

Why do you think so many people think George Bush did a pretty good job? Or Ronald Reagan? Why do you think so many people think Obama is doing a terrible job?

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 21, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton's letter to Col. Eugene Holmes:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/etc/draftletter.html

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 21, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Comments here contain text of Col. Holmes' affidavit about Bill Clinton's "shrewd" draft dodging.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/838469/posts

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 21, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Considering the fact that Blumenthal on a recent televised debate in March clearly stated he was never in Vietnam when he was in the military it seems pretty obvious that he uses the term "in Vietnam" as a shorthand for "in the Vietnam era". This seems especially obvious because he mentions that soldiers endured ridicule "in Vietnam" when it was during the Vietnam era when they were subject to such abuse. Who would have abused soldiers in uniform "in Vietnam" except the Viet Cong?

Posted by: washpost45 | May 22, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

So quarterback1, I guess your belief that "many people are uninformed, lack sense, judgment, and wisdom." would account for your unsubstantiated claim that "...many vets -- probably a preponderance -- who served with him came out against him and said he was unfit." By the way, where is your proof of this?

Posted by: washpost45 | May 22, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

By the way quarterback1: In fact all but one of the Swift Boat Veterans who had served under the direct command of Kerry, and had spoken out, vigorously defended Kerry's Vietnam record.

Posted by: washpost45 | May 22, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

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