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* Obama reiterates his sense of urgency about the Gulf spill in a phone call with the governors of Gulf Coast states.

* And the White House, as part of continuing efforts to demonstrate Obama is on top of the spill, releases a photo of Obama making the call.

* Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, talking about BP, says the administration "will keep our boot on their neck until the job gets done."

Whereupon Rand Paul weeps at the un-American-ness of it all.

* But Jake Tapper points out that other administration officials aren't being so hard on BP, and details how the administration could do more.

* Ben Smith says Dems may soon be vindicated in their belief that immigration politics will trend their way long term.

* On Saturday, David Vitter said he's frustrated with Dems for using the spill to "create media events for television cameras instead of devoting full attention to stopping the immediate problem."

Today, Vitter Tweeted links to "media coverage of my national address on efforts/response for the oil spill."

* A compromise on Don't Ask Don't Tell is in the works, meaning this could be a very big week.

* Not going away? New York Times presses the case that the White House should divulge what it knows about any job offers dangled before Joe Sestak.

* Sighting: The first genuine Afghanistan-related use of a "Friedman Unit."

* If you need it, here's the etymology of "Friedman Unit."

* And DNC spox Hari Sevugan responds to Sue Lowden's unwillingness to criticize Rand Paul over Civil Rights:

If she's too chicken to answer routine questions about the news of the day during a campaign, how can Nevadans have confidence that she'll fight for them in the U.S. Senate?

If Lowden loses her primary, brace yourselves for some severe chicken-for-checkups withdrawal.

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  |  May 24, 2010; 6:07 PM ET
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OMG! This is hilarious from Dave Weigel.
The video is just delicious!

Palin-backed GOP candidate allegedly rips off Obama's 2004 speech

Posted by: suekzoo1 | May 24, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Weigel also points us to an Ann Coulter column with the following (highly apt) description...

"The whole column is probably the best post-PA-12 distillation of the (temporary?) shudder of conservative doubt about the midterms."

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"the White House, as part of continuing efforts to demonstrate Obama is on top of the spill, releases a photo of Obama making the call."

A photo of a phone call!? What urgency!

"If she's too chicken to answer routine questions..."

Brilliant. Talk about the gift that keeps giving.

Posted by: Adam_W | May 24, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

This is pretty incredible:

GOP Leaders Rally Against Their Own Candidate

North Carolina Republicans "have escalated an unprecedented campaign against one of their own congressional candidates," with the party chairman calling Tim D'Annunzio (R) "unfit for public office at any level," according to the Charlotte Observer.

Newly-surfaced court documents portray D'Annunzio as "a self-described religious zealot" who once called the federal government the Antichrist and told his ex-wife that he'd found the Ark of the Covenant.

D'Annunzio finished first in the May 4 primary and faces a June 22 runoff against Harold Johnson (R) in the state's 8th congressional district. The winner faces off against Rep. Larry Kissell (D-NC).

Looks like they don't just have ONE Rand Paul problem...

Now this guy. Plus the guy who ripped off Obama's 2004 speech... Um. yah. And they're going to build a wave with these crazies???

Posted by: Ethan2010 | May 24, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Short comment on Greg's earlier note of McConnell lauding Rand Paul's "message".

What McConnell alludes to is, of course, the "government is bad" notion inherent in Paul's philosophy. That is about the only significant bridge between Paul or libertarianism and present Republican narrative needs.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Adam, I was gonna say almost the same thing as you. Lowden is a chicken....awesome....

And seriously? A photo of Obama on the phone is supposed to prove something? Maybe I'm too critical of him on this, but I have to believe there's something in his power he could've done that might have sped up or improved the recovery. I don't know at all what that would be, but this disaster is so horrible and appears to be getting worse.

When all is said and done, Obama will bear a certain amount of blame.

Posted by: SDJeff | May 24, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Nice find. Such instances are going to increase. It was the risk that Republican strategists took on when they set up their Tea Party tact. Here's Armey trying to do damage control on Rand Paul...

Armey is good. Very slick. But this beast he's been instrumental in building from spare body parts looks increasingly likely to turn on he and his. Let there be a great feast, say I.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

@Bernie....Can't you just envision almost any mainstream Republican reprising that wonderful Dr. Frankstein actor when in a most overwrought manner he cried out...

"It's's alive".

Of course that's what the R' were crying back in the halcyon days in their use of the Tea Party tools in the HCR debate. Do we remember how that Frankenstein story ended for both the monster and the creator.

By early November the voters may play the part of the outraged citizens coming to the Republican castle with pitchforks.

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 24, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"35,000 People Protest Christie’s Budget Cuts At Trenton Statehouse, Outnumbering Earlier Tea Party Rally 87-to-1"

We're wondering how this will register on the Sacred Scale of Equivalencies.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

"If Lowden loses her primary, brace yourselves for some severe chicken-for-checkups withdrawal."

Yeah, but I hear the alternative GOP candidate is even *more* entertaining!

Posted by: jimeh | May 24, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

What is it with these Republicans and their insistence that Democrats focus all their attention on one thing? I mean, sure, the people *they* put in office (like Bush) are incapable of managing more than one thing at a time, but that doesn't mean everyone else is that incompetent.

Posted by: jimeh | May 24, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

@ru - That's a fine image you carve out.

Paul's profile (because of his father) and the activist base around him (because of his father) arrives, win his win, as something of a serious blessing for us. The Republicans has seen the enemy and they is thems...cry havoc!

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Come to think of it, someone really ought to do a Pogo/Julius Caesar mash-up.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Yglesias, the mad genius, spots a real dilly...

"- At National Review, one can make an argument from authority on the effects of contraception citing Raquel Welch."

and he points us to J-Lo (mad ungenius)...

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Let's indulge in a little speculation.

The WH worked hard to find out what the quickest, best solution was to stopping the oil spill (gusher) and getting it cleaned up efficiently and aggressively. They found that there was no way to stop the flow outside what the oil industry can do, and planned to do. The cleanup couldn't be done much better than what BP could manage.

Given that the disaster was not an easy fix, they decided to let BP run it so that the WH didn't get blamed for taking responsibility and then not finding a solution. AKA, no good deed goes unpunished.

I would wager the WH understands now much more clearly that there has not been a contingency plan for these kinds of accidents and will push hard for regulations and a regulatory agency to get it done.

As much as I want the WH to "take over," I don't want to see BP off the hook by allowing them to shunt responsibility.

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 24, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Correction: I see that is from Matt Zeitlin, one of the folks standing in for Yglesias as he travels in China and gets further instructions on destroying liberty and goodness.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"After the voting-rights comments, some media pundits, like Newsweek’s Howard Fineman, made excuses for Paul, saying he was just a political novice who hadn’t mastered the skill of packaging his answers in politically neutral ways. In other words, his only sin was believing too sincerely in his ideology and expressing it honestly.

However, what Paul was really doing was explaining what the Tea Party movement is truly about. Though it draws from a variety of political animosities – like white resentment of the nation’s demographic changes and a desire to “take our country back” from the likes of President Barack Obama – the Tea Party’s core mission is to stop the federal government from limiting the power of corporations.

That is why former House Republican Leader Dick Armey has thrown his corporate-backed FreedomWorks behind the Tea Party movement. It’s why Massey president Don Blankenship showed up in Stars-and-Stripes apparel to give a rousing speech to a Tea Party rally.

In essence, Big Corporations are pulling a Big Con on the common folks attracted to the Tea Party movement, getting them to focus their anger at Big Government as a threat to their “liberties” when the federal government is all that stands in the way of total corporate dominance of the United States.

So, instead of pressing for a democratized and energized federal government that could serve as a check on unbridled corporate power, the Tea Partiers are being turned into foot soldiers for “owner rights,” to ensure that corporations are freed from government regulations and accountability." (h/t Digby)

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

This is a really interesting piece re the oil gusher. Despite all the best efforts of BP, the government and environmental groups in a herculean effort to stop or cap the spill, we're lacking in the scientific knowledge and technology to accomplish it.

"We failed at preventing the spill. Now, we're failing in the response simply because we'd never gotten ready," says Richard Charter, oil spill expert for conservation group Defenders of Wildlife. "Nobody has invested in these technologies."

"Federal funding for oil spill research was cut in half between 1993 and 2008, falling to just $7.7 million in fiscal year 2008, data from the Congressional Research Service show. Federal legislation introduced last year to bolster oil spill research has yet to pass. And oil companies have invested "little to no" money on spill response technologies, concentrating instead on oil exploration and spill prevention, says Robert Peterson, a consultant to the oil and gas industry at Charles River Associates."

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

BP CEO Tony Hayward got an up close and personal look at the coastal damage today.

"Hayward talked with the workers Monday at Fourchon Beach while the crews tended to booms meant to soak up the oil from the Deepwater Horizon disaster. Reporters were kept at a distance."

"I'm as devastated as you are by what I've seen here today," he told reporters. "We are going to do everything in our power to prevent any more oil from coming ashore and we will clean every last drop up and we will remediate all of the environmental damage."

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Not just NYT.

Sean Hannity was ranting today about bribery felony charges all the way up to the President on the claim Sestak was being bribed to accept Sec. of Navy in exchange for dropping out of the Pen primary.

I think the right smells blood and is going to go full court press on this. Get ready. The witch hunt has begun. If they can't beat him legislatively, they'll tear him down in the courts.

Who's surprised really?

Posted by: mikefromArlington | May 24, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Bernie, for the Raquel Welch link.
That has to be one of the funniest things I've read in awhile. If I didn't know any better I'd swear I was reading something from The Onion.

K-Lo is a complete twit.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | May 24, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Bernie, haven't we known for quite some time that the use of the Tea Party followers as dupes is solely to increase the power of corporate America? What else can we do but continue to expose their "leaders" as pro business, de-regulation advocates, states rights over Federal oversight protections, anti-government when it serves the middle class, etc. etc. etc.? It's really frustrating when we see the ramifications of these policies right before our eyes and people still show no buyers remorse. Hint BP and Goldman Sachs.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

@schrodingerscat - You're more than welcome. That one got me too.

@mike - It's getting to be time that Sestak handled this matter. Or the WH. Preferably, both.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse


Jindal and Barbour proposed barrier island dredging/sand-berms & man-made jettys two weeks ago, this would definitely be on any contingency list as, at the least, an option to be considered seriously.

Meanwhile as of today with Ms. Napalitano and Mr. Salazar uttering maiorum nauseum, its clear the WH held off because they do not have IdeaOne or ClueTwo as to how to proceed other than put the ObamaBoot on the neck of BP...we will not rest blah blah blah. Salazar thinks the mere presence of a cascade of DC eminences on site is ACTION Baby! Durbin shouldn't even go out in the sunlight, I do not buy for one second that he gives a rat's butt re.: the lobsterman, at all.

Pathetic, and in so far over their heads it's embarrassing.

There has been no Fed response whatsoever on the local Govs proposals for shoreline protection, and Jindal said so today at the presser with Napalitano & Salazar two feet away.

A prediction: BP will indeed pay huge damages, but whatever they are, their outlays will be decreased and sweetened behind the scenes by the admin and the Durbin gang (all the while spouting "boot on the neck...BP...evil...BP... corporateSatan ...BP...arrghh!!"

Then BP will contritely get really behind Cap&Tax, see the wealth-transfer Light, {{{AMEN}}} and will then go to rent-seeking corporate Euro heaven in the good ole USA.

That's what they pay lobbyists and Senators for, right?

Posted by: tao9 | May 24, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I linked this site earlier but it was at the end of a thread so I'm doing it again. My daughter turned me on to This link takes you to a bunch of really smart comments yesterday re some activity on the ocean floor at the site of BP's oil gusher. Lots of scientific comments and smart evaluation of BP's response etc. I've bookmarked it so I can check in each day. There are actually people, as in citizens, monitoring the live feed 24/7, props to them. This thread looks dead now but you can go to the home page or for current posts.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Tao, you DO realize that the government doesn't have the technical capabilities to plug the well without industry help, right? Because that fact kind of skews your whole post.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | May 24, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

18 mins ago on NYT:

Deal Reached for Ending Law on Gays in Military

The White House and leading Congressional Democrats reached agreement Monday on legislative language and a timeframe for repealing the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, but it was not clear whether the deal had secured the votes necessary to pass the House and Senate.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | May 24, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty cynical on the oil gusher, but I see tao is even more so. Tao, your prediction may satisfy your proclivity to paint the Administration as bumblers, but I think it's a bit premature. I'm not a huge Salazar fan, his record on environmental issues leaves a bit to be desired, but I think if you check my comment at 7:47 you may realize that lack of scientific funding contributed to this disaster.

My daughter, is a scientist as you know, and the politics of research and technology, she always reminds me, are years behind the science.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Ims - You're right, of course. Because the GOP is (perhaps more than anything else) the mediating body between corporate interests and citizens, I get focused on their activities.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Here's a great quote I'd forgotten:

“Where ideas are concerned, America can be counted on to do one of two things: take a good idea and run it completely into the ground, or take a bad idea and run it completely into the ground.”

—George Carlin

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse


Your changing the subject, the breach is cast. The admin couldn't plug a WH roof leak without a roof leak czar.

Lets see if there is any movement from the admin to expedite EPA & the ArmyCorpsEngineers to at least take the Governors coastline protection suggestions under advisement.

They're now at full Stiff/Defcon two weeks and counting. Can't have pro-active local GOP Governors getting any props. The optics are bad.

Why does the admin hate Red-State beaches?

Posted by: tao9 | May 24, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Let's be clear: expecting or requiring the federal government to be able to plug the gusher and clean the spill is unrealistic. The companies that drill for oil and profit from it ought to be REQUIRED to have a relief well simultaneously drilled (as the Brits require in the Arctic) as well as a cleanup situation that has advanced since the 1970s.

The federal government's role should be to ensure that this happens. Regulate and save money, the environment, and the impact on local economies.

Until grownups in charge admit that the government and business are in a partnership that works for both sides, we are going to have crises followed by panic and suffering.

When will people learn?

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 24, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

re: the SEIU-backed hopeful third party challenge to Larry Kissel in NC, the republican currently leading is being denounced by the state GOP. He claims to have found the Ark of the Covenant and calls the government the antichrist. Maybe Kissel is one blue dog we should be happy to keep out this crazy zealot and not risk splitting the dem vote.

Posted by: SDJeff | May 24, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

At what point will the traditional media stop taking Rasmussen polls seriously? They've been carpet bombing the "Dems are doomed" meme for months now, with their consistent and huge GOP bias in their polls...and their convenient ignoring of polling competitive races that might make Dems look good.

Really, it's become pretty disgraceful, the way Rasmussen is trying to flood the zone in an attempt to push a meme. Every poll tracker you play with, if you remove Rasmussen, you see a 3-5% bump by Dems in the averages. That takes a LOT of house-effected polling being shoved out there by them.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | May 24, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Eric Kleefeld has a piece up on Fiorina's and Whitman's large leads. Aside from the personal wealth these two have, the establishment GOP crowd will be supporting them full out, I think

If we recall from 6 or 8 months back, Matalin made a passing statement that indicated a PR strategy in place to gain electoral advantage through promoting a narrative of mothers victimized by male elites and the media. Clearly, they were taking a cue from the Palin campaign strategy and had hopes that this narrative would counter the 'black president' story (and pull female voters from Obama/Dems).

If these two ladies succeed, we'll likely see that narrative in full bloom.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse


"Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities."

Posted by: tao9 | May 24, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Thanks tao. I'm beginning to think this oil gusher will be a test for all of us. Who would have thought? I hope we come up with some sort of solution. And I'm giving Jindal props for doing "something" to protect his coastline. He's been the only one (governors anyway) in the GOM to take this crap serious. Barbour was quite lackadaisical about the entire thing, at least until it hits his coastline.

BTW, the proper authorities have been looking at their berm idea, but as usual "red tape bureaucracy" slows the process down.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm probably boring most of you with my links and comments on what's happening in the GOM, but Rockman who comments at the is really smart and here's a question from Mason, at FDL I think, regarding the new (maybe) developments regarding the oil gushing out of the bottom of the ocean. If he answers, I'll let you know. Otherwise, I'll leave you guys to your own devices. O&O.


I suspect the gas/oil/water mixture has breached the casing in multiple places and it's eroding the sedimentary rock and widening the drill hole. I suspect that the cement gave way and, since no intact boundary separates the contents of the drill pipe from the contents in the space between the drill pipe and the casing and the contents of the space between the casing and the sedimentary wall, this is why there is so much sand and rock in the gas/oil/water mixture exploding out of the riser.

This puppy hasn't shown any sign of weakening during the past 34 days. If anything the plumes appear to have increased, which suggests to me that the volume vomiting out of Hell, so to speak is increasing. I don't think the pressure is increasing. If I'm right, the sand blaster is blowing more and ever larger holes in the drill and riser pipes before and after the BOP, plus widening the hole, and this is why more stuff is coming out.

I don't see how the Top Down and/or Jam Shot, if successful, can do anything but divert the flow outside the casing increasing the pressure and erosion of sedimentary rock and substantially widening the hole. Since the first few hundred feet or so below the seafloor is mud, I suspect that the well hole is much wider at the top and the dramatic turbidity increase some people noticed yesterday was mud displacement at the well head.

Again assuming my scenario is correct and this is a water driven blowout, what are the chances that a relief well can shut this puppy down?

Seems to me we're in a race against time and the biggest long-shot Louie at Hialeah wouldn't put a fin on our fate now."

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Jeezus. The above quote demonstrates how dummies like me can't really think properly about this problem. I hadn't even considered the possibility that the route the oil took from deposit to surface might enlarge. I just assumed it was like a household water pipe (because I didn't think about it and know next to nothing about it). Let's hope the fellow is wrong but I have no reason to think he is.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

And speaking of dummies, here's Medved...

"Rand Paul's amazing meltdown in his first week as the GOP Senate nominee in Kentucky raises serious questions about media conspiracies -- not because the network talking heads decided to ask him tough questions, but because they waited to pose those challenges until after he'd won his primary and the Republicans were stuck with him." many interviews on prime time news did the fellow have prior? And is it the job of the national media to cover every candidate running in every primary and grill them to held reveal any oddnesses? And since when is it the task of the news folks to vet primary candidates for your party so that you guys don't embarrass yourself all to hell, bub?

Medved goes on to accuse the media purposefully of setting Paul up through easy questions early, thus helping him win, then going in for the kill once he was in possession of a primary victory. Occam's razor this guy isn't wielding.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Bernie, you see why I've been focusing on this for the most part in the last couple of days? Just as an inside bit of anecdotal evidence, my daughter who specializes right now in ground water issues but has done lots of research in oil, is very concerned about this blowout. There appear to be no good scenarios, where's Bruce Willis when we need him, as Digby would say.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Dissent no longer patriotic, Chapter 1461.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 24, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I know, I know, I'm a broken record. People, this is the environmental catastrophe of your generation, I've already had mine.

"One of the problems is that the White House has been sending mixed messages about its partnership with BP.

For example, in front of BP headquarters in Houston on Sunday, Salazar said: "BP, again, is a responsible party and ... is on the hook to doing everything that needs to happen. If we find that they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing, we'll push them out of the way appropriately."

But White House officials admit they can't realistically push BP out of the way — they are completely dependent on BP for the equipment and expertise to stop the spill. As Allen himself explained at the White House briefing, "To push BP out of the way would raise the question: replace them with what?"

Posted by: lmsinca | May 24, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Checking about on wikipedia, it seems that Transocean leased the rig to BP for the reasonable DAY rate of half a million bucks. Of course, these folks all have holdings set up in the Caymans or Switzerland the better to avoid taxes.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

"To push BP out of the way would raise the question: replace them with what?"


Posted by: bernielatham | May 24, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

From watertiger at FDL:

"Tony Hayward, Lord High Executioner CEO of British Polluters Petroleum, sounds like he’s been taking lessons from Henry Potter’s speechwriter:

In July 2009, at a lecture to the Stanford Business School, the CEO of British Petroleum Tony Hayward explains to attendees that BP was going in the wrong direction before he took over as CEO because, “we had too many people that were working to save the world.“

No, srsly. He said that. This arrogant POS who insists that, in the grand scheme of things, the oil volcano despoiling the Gulf is no big deal, thinks his predecessor’s honest efforts to get BP into renewable, green energy was just another dirty f_ing hippie trying to extend the time we have left on this planet, when instead, he should have been focused on sucking the Earth dry of every possible resource.

Do you know who this guy reminds me of? The King of Greedystan, Lloyd Blankfein.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 25, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

lms, he reminds me of Gordon Gekko.

"Greed is good...."

Ahh, the 80s come of age.

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 25, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

BG, this?

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind."

Posted by: lmsinca | May 25, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

"Ben Smith says Dems may soon be vindicated in their belief that immigration politics will trend their way long term."

Of course it might. If they can keep the borders open long enough, resist and stifle enforcement by states like Arizona, and grant amnesty and benefits and wealth transfers to enough illegals, they'll do great.

It won't really be the USA any longer, but they don't care about that.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 25, 2010 7:03 AM | Report abuse

"I think the right smells blood and is going to go full court press on this. Get ready. The witch hunt has begun."

Who is telling the truth, then, Obama or Sestak? How can both be telling the truth?

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 25, 2010 7:14 AM | Report abuse

"People, this is the environmental catastrophe of your generation, I've already had mine."

Out of curiosity, what was the castastrophe of your generation?

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 25, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

"It won't really be the USA any longer, but they don't care about that"

It's a strategy that you've clearly ferreted out. Dem electoral gain through porous borders. Obama is no dummy. He's so smart he managed to control prior Republican administrations to ensure they didn't secure the borders.

And yeah, it won't be the USA with so many colored people with a different first language.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 25, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

No, it won't really be the USA any longer with our sovereignty having been forfeited to people who came here illegally. But I know how it is for people like you: You have to charge racism when you have no actual argument on your side.

We just had your party loudly cheer the President of Mexico denouncing Arizona before Congress for having the temerity to enforce federal law.

We've had Obama, Holder, Napalitano, and a clownish State official all denounce the law and later admit they haven't even read it.

We've had State apologizing to China for Arizona's human rights violation in enforcing federal law.

Obama's great promise was to completely transform the United States. He is. And part of it is not only giving away our sovereignty but giving it away to illegals and the President of Mexico.

If it were fiction it would never be believable.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 25, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

The Bush/Cheney/Chamber of Commerce legacy...

"WASHINGTON — Federal regulators responsible for oversight of drilling in the Gulf of Mexico allowed industry officials several years ago to fill in their own inspection reports in pencil — and then turned them over to the regulators, who traced over them in pen before submitting the reports to the agency, according to an inspector general’s report to be released this week.

The report, which describes inappropriate behavior by the staff at the Minerals Management Service from 2005 to 2007, also found that inspectors had accepted meals, tickets to sporting events and gifts from at least one oil company while they were overseeing the industry."

I'm having some trouble writing this morning because my anger is so hot.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 25, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

qb, I was referring to the Santa Barbara spill in 1969. It may not have affected the rest of the country so much but it opened the eyes of Californians 41 years ago. It shaped a lot of our energy legislation here going forward and set up strict emission standards and off shore drilling bans etc. Even Republican Governors have upheld those standards.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 25, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

"It's a strategy that you've clearly ferreted out. Dem electoral gain through porous borders. Obama is no dummy. He's so smart he managed to control prior Republican administrations to ensure they didn't secure the borders."

Nongullible readers will also notice the fallacious nature of your "argument."

I have come to expect nothing better.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 25, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

All, morning roundup posted:

Posted by: Greg Sargent | May 25, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

QB - Really? Care to stipulate which fallacy is in play and how it applies?

Posted by: bernielatham | May 25, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

"I'm having some trouble writing this morning because my anger is so hot."

I can only imagine your emotional state if the article had not, as it does, stated that there is no evidence that these alleged instances of petty agency corruption had anything to do with the Gulf disaster, which did, after all, happen more than a year into Obama's watch.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 25, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

"QB - Really? Care to stipulate which fallacy is in play and how it applies?"

Here are several flaws and instances of misdirection in your argument.

1. Obama's lack of control over previous GOP admins in no way negates the proposition that he seeks to perpetuate and profit politically from open borders/amnesty policies. Dems can exploit and further the existing state of affairs without regard to who helped created it up to 2009; there seems little reason to doubt they seek to do just that. They make little secret of it. I don't know a better name for this than simply non sequitur.

2. To the extent that you suggest that lax enforcement by GOP admins negates the claim that Dems practice lax enforcement for political gain, you probably commit a form of tu quoque. There are at least two possibilities, assuming as you do similar behavior. One is similar motivations, the other different motivations. Neither one negates my claim.

3. Past immigration policy has not, as you falsely assume, been solely the product of GOP Presidents (or GOP Congressional majorities) -- false premise.

4. Greg's post and my comment referred to Dems; you subtly shifted to Obama -- again, false premise, which ties in to the above as well. Dem influence over immigration did begin in January 2009 and is not limited to Obama.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 25, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Bernie, for asking for response and then ignoring it. What a guy. I assume you concede error.

Posted by: quarterback1 | May 26, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

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