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* Still more mixed messaging from the GOP on the economy: Eric Cantor issued a statement today saying the 290,000 jobs added in April is "a good thing," but Mike Pence weighed in thusly:

"These are difficult times for America's families and today's unemployment report delivers even more bad news...The American people want Washington to enact policies that will help create jobs. "

* Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann knew enough to pronounce herself "pleased to see 290,000 jobs added in the month of April."

* Holder's comeback: As I and many others have noted, the Times Square bomb scare has given Eric Holder a chance to quiet the chatter about his mishandling of Gitmo and other issues, and now he's making the rounds on the Sunday shows.

* Dana Milbank skewers Dems over their intention to replace David Obey as appropriations chair with an official who's way too tight with the military contracter Boeing.

* Ronald Brownstein has been doing some really interesting work on the GOP's rightward march.

* Into the Beltway funhouse: Lindsey Graham, who earlier said talk of moving forward on immigration would imperil energy reform, now says the Gulf oil spill makes climate change action impossible.

* But if Graham doesn't think we should move forward on immigration (one of his pet issues) or climate change (another one of his pet issues), than what does he think we should move forward on?

* Either way, Dems are moving forward without him.

* Dan Froomkin skewers the Pentagon's banning of four reporters from Gitmo, pointing out that it makes the argument for military tribunals even tougher to sustain.

"Nothing says `kangaroo court' quite like banning the free press," Froomkin notes.

* Much has been made of the new WaPo poll finding that 14% think Obama was born in another country.

But even more interestingly, if you add in the 19% who have no opinion, you've got a total of 33%, one third, who are unwilling to say he was born in the United States.

* John Ensign is still under an ethical cloud.

* And with Elena Kagan looking like a lock for SCOTUS, her opponents are working harder than ever to point to deficiencies in her record on diversity and corporate power.

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  |  May 7, 2010; 6:04 PM ET
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Posted by: jzap | May 7, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"Much has been made of the new WaPo poll finding that 14% think Obama was born in another country...you've got a total of 33%, one third, who are unwilling to say he was born in the United States."

That's nothing. ABC News poll:

"About a third of so-called "birthers" nonetheless approve of Obama's work in office and express a favorable opinion of him personally."

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/poll-half-birthers-call-suspicion-approve-obama/story?id=10576748

Posted by: sbj3 | May 7, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

jzap! welcome. good to have you here.

And question for readers, do you want saturday and sunday roundups? will y'all participate if I do them?

Posted by: Greg Sargent | May 7, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Lindsey Graham is a fool if he thinks that the greatest ecological disaster in history makes climate change legislation less urgent. Graham is a posturing buffoon who is vying to become the most inert GOP Senator possible while Obama is POTUS.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 7, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

What is Graham's problem?

Glad to see that Lieberman and Kerry are moving forward with the legislation.

Posted by: maritza1 | May 7, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey Greg,

These Happy Hour Roundups are a quick, very useful resource. As are the Twitter feeds.

Thanks!

Posted by: pwall | May 7, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Greg, it seems like you get a lot of comments on the weekend. I remember when we didn't have any morning roundup and how excited everyone was when you started. I'll participate when I'm around.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 7, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

re weekend round ups...yes, want them; yes, will participate.

re Brownstein's piece linked above...
Two points. I think that Republicans have been concentrating on this November far more than 2012. They clearly believe that they can go some distance to duplicating '94 and if they can then that means increased power and, importantly, a reversal of losses in the last two cycles (lose too often in sequence and you become a 'loser'). With increased seats in House and Senate they will be in a better position to succeed two or four years on.

The second point relates to this passage...

"The great political surprise of Obama's presidency is that amid these hard times, the electorate has directed its frustration less against Big Business (though it is hardly popular) than against Big Government"

It probably ought to surprise us less than it does. No talking point pushed since before Obama even assumed the post has been "government will/has grown scary big". It's the constant them from Judd to Limbaugh and everywhere in between.

And, of course, it has been the central theme of conservative theology since Reagan quite regardless of any real history in the matter.

Thus the entire conservative universe, and the electorate more generally, has been primed to think within this framework. It's not something that will be turned around quicklly.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 7, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Hi Greg,

Just wanted to let you know (in case you weren't already aware) that your RSS feed is still busted. All the text is smushed together, with paragraphs and other formatting removed. The RSS items also cut off after about 8-9 lines. This doesn't seem like it would have been an intentional change with the move to the WaPo opinion page.

BTW this is with the RSS feed linked from the new page.

Posted by: void_pelican | May 7, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

"But even more interestingly, if you add in the 19% who have no opinion, you've got a total of 33%, one third, who are unwilling to say he was born in the United States."

It's appalling that so many Americans are now so poorly informed. But does anyone see this changing while talk radio and FOX continue to operate as they are now? The only real question in here is whether the US is going to be able to find the rationalism and the means to diminish the propaganda machinery now in place. The alternative is not attractive.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 7, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I really like the weekend roundups the times when I'm checking in. They generally tend to be more wide ranging, not just about politics but about some of the things that inform politics like good books. (And, yeah, baseball.)

BTW, where's Tena? It's a little like golf without Tiger, though that comparison might not work as well as it used to. Is she on her regular migration?

Posted by: AllButCertain | May 7, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Gman, we are not facing the greatest ecological disaster in history.

"One of the biggest problems with AGW is that it can’t explain why the last interglacial was so much warmer than the present. 100kya the Earth was several degrees warmer, sea levels much higher, and hippos swam in the Thames. Another interglacial 850kya melted off the entire Greenland ice cap. If our GCM were really reliable they should be able to generate those results."

nayyer on WUWT.

Every 100k years we have an ice age followed by a warm interglacial period of 15-20k years. The interglacial we're now 18k years into now is not the warmest and we're probably approaching the end of it. Removing real pollutants and keeping toxic material out of the environment should be our focus. Limiting CO2 is not going to accomplish what the "climate change" fearmongers claim will occur. This is a ploy to generate new taxes and will ultimately reduce standards of living if such legislation is passed. Not that the Chinese or Indians plan to participate in a significant way to begin with.

Posted by: actuator | May 7, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

G1 @ 6:43pm,

"...the greatest ecological disaster in history..."

No, sir. That statement is incorrect.

As is the employment of the incident to crowbar some species of climate change legislation folly.

Posted by: tao9 | May 7, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

"Democrats
We Get Stuff Done."

Uh-huh.

So many cons on other sites were arguing that passing the healthcare bill was a big mistake for the Dems and that they would actually fare better this year by FAILING to pass it. What a total laugh I had at that; as if the Dems would tale it on the chin even less if the bill didn't pass...

Posted by: EriktheRedd | May 7, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm not too sure anyone can say what kind of ecological disaster we have on our hands yet. Whether it's the worst ever or just one of the worst in modern history is a little beside the point for the gulf coast or the people who make their living from it's bounty. It sure doesn't look like chocolate milk though.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 7, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

@Greg I cast an affirmative vote for the weekend updates. You've only had one each for Saturday and Sunday and it's fun scrolling and seeing the latest additions from posters.

As to the birther ignorance, Faux News and the general ignorance among 1/4 to 1/3 of our population. I had this discussion with my faux news loving 84 year old mom. She said of course she knew Obama was born in Hawaii and why did I let that or the fact that a majority of Texans believed he was Muslim distburb me? They are just ignorant wingnuts. Yes mom but they have significant numbers and THEY VOTE!

Ironically if Tom Tancredo got his wish and literacy and intelligence tests returned as prerequisites for voting the right wing would be out of power for the remainder of my lifetime. Their ignorance is astonishing in it's scope and breadth.

Today after golf I had a 73 year old gentleman tell me not to worry about the oil spill it wasn't really hurting anything...then he mimicked Rush with remember the Exxon Valdez everything gets cleaned up by nature and that we'd be spending $12 per gallon for gas without the drilling. When I pointed out that all the additional Gulf Coast drilling permitted would only drop 5-10 cents per gallon and that oil is fungible and will be sold to China, India or whoever pays the most his retort was we have enough oil available IN THE U.S. to last for the remainder of this century. He was a lost cause and so I tried to simply change direction rather than attempt to reason with a Rush brainwashed dittohead and said well at least if it does continue we in St. Petersburg might be spared because the gulfstream is projected to take the oil to the Keys and then up our East Coast. To which he replied or maybe if we're lucky ot Cuba. I really don't get all the Conservative hatred...they are the most hateful group of people I've ever experienced in my lifetime. I completely understand disagreeing with Cuba's form of government...but why HATE Cubans and wish disaster for them, the VAST MAJORITY are simply innocent people trying to live their lives. What is with so much Conservative HATE?

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 7, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

I suppose if you don't live along the East or West Coast or in the Gulf States you might support off shore drilling because it won't wash up in your backyard.

"But, wait — also today, we have Daily Kos reporting the results of a Research 2000 poll that shows 60 percent of respondents across the U.S. favoring increased offshore drilling… and adding, “Even among Democrats, a slight plurality continues to favor increasing offshore drilling (49-45).”

"What’s going on here? Can that many Americans really have responded to the environmental catastrophe in the Gulf by saying, “Crap, we’d better drill offshore somewhere else so we can replace that oil”?!?"

"Unfortunately, the answer is at least partially yes. The results of the Research 2000 poll aren’t really that different from the Rasmussen national survey, which showed 58 percent of respondents continuing to support offshore drilling — it’s just that even those numbers were a sharp decline from the 74 percent(!) in favor of drilling a month earlier, when President Obama stupidly proposed ending a ban on it."

"Maybe all of those 16 percent or so of American who changed their views live along the coast in places like Florida (or California, Texas, etc.). For everybody else, it seems to be that as long as the oil doesn’t wash up directly in their backyard, it’s not that much of a problem."

Posted by: lmsinca | May 8, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

This reminds me a little of Apollo 13. If it works we'll all eventually be grateful.

"ON THE GULF OF MEXICO - A BP-chartered vessel lowered a 100-ton concrete-and-steel vault onto a ruptured well in the Gulf of Mexico on Friday, an important step in a delicate and unprecedented attempt to stop most of the gushing crude fouling the sea."

"Underwater robots guided the 40-foot-tall box into place. Now that the contraption is on the seafloor, workers will need at least 12 hours to let it settle and make sure it's stable before the robots can hook up a pipe and hose that will funnel the oil up to a tanker."

"It appears to be going exactly as we hoped," BP spokesman Bill Salvin told The Associated Press on Friday afternoon, shortly after the four-story device hit the seafloor. "Still lots of challenges ahead, but this is very good progress."

Posted by: lmsinca | May 8, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

actuator & tao9,
I was speaking of man made disasters. By definition, a natural occurrence cannot rightly be called an ecological disaster. I thought that would be self evident.

What was worse? If it hasn't already surpassed the Exxon Valdez spill, it likely will. That disaster has NOT been cleaned up, despite what Exxon and Sarah Palin would have us believe. If this one is indeed worse, it is highly probable, if not certain that the environment in and around the Gulf of Mexico - and possibly portions of the East Coast - will bear the scars of this event decades from now.

An ice age, volcano, hurricanes, etc., are all natural parts of the environment, and while we may not like their effects, as part of the natural world, and thus part of what shapes ecology, they cannot be considered ecological disasters. To call such phenomena "ecological disasters" is the height of solipsistic hubris. The Earth does not exist for our pleasure; we are merely one of the inhabitants on this planet, albeit the only ones that can screw it up for every other living thing.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 8, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Apparently Dick Armey, and the Army of Dick’s, Freedom Works was all in for all the off shore drilling BP could ever want. This from Olbermann’s “Worst Persons In the World” last night:

“But our winner tonight: Dick Armey. Armey’s Freedom Works caught again making a worser America. Think Progress has uncovered a Power Point Presentation in which three years ago BP was planning an astroturf effort to open large parts of the Atlantic and Pacific outer continental shelfs to oil drilling.

A BP funded group called ‘Consumer Energy Alliance’ proposed a five year plan to build grassroots support. There on slide fourteen, it lists the ‘affiliated groups’ that BP, through the Consumer Energy Alliance, was going to launder money: The American Conservative Union, the good old U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and Freedom Works. Dick Armey’s Freedom Works.

From funding the phony grassroots tea parties on shore to surreptitiously promoting dangerous drilling off, Dick Armey; he’s everywhere. One if by land and two if by sea, today’s Worst Person In the World.”

Maybe that should read Army of Dicks.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 8, 2010 3:14 AM | Report abuse

@actuator and tao - It's been about five years since I even bothered to argue with climate warming deniers. Or those who think it might be happening a little but that the severity or potential severity of it is being exaggerated by people who wish to raise taxes or gain sexual access to your daughters or something. At this point, it's up to the rest of us to just ignore you and proceed.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

@Ims - BP now has a serious interest in fixing the leak. The squillion dollar PR program (Beyond Petroelum) has now been pretty much rendered ineffective going forward (though they'll now try to mount another within the boundaries of the present situation). There will be top engineers working on this but if what I read is accurate, they are dealing with new factors and a solution might be in hand, or not.

What is as dependable as their zest to fix this problem they've created so as to minimize corporate damage is the dependability that what they say about damage to environment, responsibility, their own ethics in the matter and even the progress on solutions won't necessarily reflect anything real but merely their perceived financial interests. I trust nothing they say.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

And I suppose I might as well make it known here as more formal announcements are about to go out anyway. You've heard that Lohan will be playing Linda Lovelace in the up-coming movie. They've signed me on for the male role.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

I can see this going wrong pretty easily.

"FEC: Redistricting battles not subject to spending limits
By Dan Eggen
The Federal Election Commission said Friday that members of Congress may raise unlimited "soft money" to help wage legal battles over congressional redistricting." http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/by-dan-eggen-the-federal.html?hpid=politics

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

John Bolton (he's an economist now) hates all the inferior races and nations...
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/06/ambassador-john-bolton-greece-eu-euro-problem-rescue-united-states/

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Oh Bernie, you can believe me when I say I have very little regard for BP. I am hoping they are successful in containing and capping this leak, but I acknowledge it's for an entirely different reason. My comparison to Apollo 13 was in the nature of uncharted waters or space so to speak. I believe their containment dome has never been tried at these depths. There are bound to be some heroic engineers and scientists working on this.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 8, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Also, let me just say I agree 100% re climate change deniers. You either believe the science or you don't, or you have a financial interest in denying it.

Posted by: lmsinca | May 8, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm feelin' the love for Phoenix Woman this morning:

"After a week in which financial markets worldwide lost ground waiting to see if Greece’s downfall was going to take the fragile recovery along with it, one thing ought to be crystal-clear by now: There is no way in hell that anyone should be talking, secretly or otherwise, about taking our money out of Social Security and giving it to Pete Peterson’s fellow Wall Streeters to “keep safe” for us. Whether triggered by a “glitch” or emblematic of deeper problems that can’t be simply explained or wished away, the massive sell-off shows just how unsafe Wall Street really is.

But, but, but Pete Peterson and his buds say that we gotta trash Social Security to lower the deficit! Remember, these are the same rich geniuses who got richer trashing our economy. So the people who blew up the economy in the first place want us to trust them with what little financial security we have left? I don’t think so.

Call the House and/or Senate at (202) 224-3121 and get a hold of your elected representatives. Tell them that you don’t care what Pete Peterson’s super-secret, oversight-free Cat Food Commission says — you’re not letting them near your Social Security money, ever."

Posted by: lmsinca | May 8, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Agree that it is a waste of time to argue with climate change deniers. There is none so blind as he who will not see. This is the zenith (or the nadir) of GOP propaganda; simply defying science. Flat Earthers in the tank for Big Oil. Save your breath for honest debate. Like Bernie said: We just have to move forward without them.

Posted by: wbgonne | May 8, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Ims - understood. Didn't mean to imply you weren't up to snuff on cynicism. Just wanted to underline that BP's claims are to be considered as motivated by PR concerns only. Corporations don't have a conscience. It's one of those pesky "person-hood" elements missing.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

This morning's "Jesus Saves" item...

"Integrity Bank was created in Atlanta 10 years ago, intended to be a financial institution "founded on Christian principles." The bank even distributed free Bibles to customers. This week, we learned that the bank, which failed in 2008, hastened its downfall by "selling fraudulent loans to a hotel developer in exchange for bribes.""
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Palin has taken a little flak from her Tea Party fans for backing the CEO in the CA Senate race. Funny. And Bernie, congrats on the movie, watch out for that "cat scratch fever" though.

"Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has made her Facebook page into a bully pulpit, issuing policy statements on such issues as nuclear proliferation and oil drilling. Now she's learning that social media can be more than a one-way system of message delivery — thanks to an avalanche of comments from tea party supporters taking issue with her Facebook endorsement of Carly Fiorina in California's upcoming GOP Senate primary."

"Many of the supporters of the small-government tea party insurgency regard Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard CEO who stumped for the McCain-Palin ticket while serving as its adviser on financial issues in 2008, as a RINO, or "Republican in name only" — a term generally applied to pro-business moderates who don't always support socially conservative positions."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100507/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1960

Posted by: lmsinca | May 8, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

And even AP isn't buying the Obama's Katrina BS:

"While the Obama administration has faced second-guessing about the speed and effectiveness of some of its actions, a narrative pieced together by The Associated Press, based on documents, interviews and public statements, shows little resemblance to Katrina in either the characterization of the threat or the federal government's response."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iGw5j_drnBauWXcnC9-obnID4GNAD9FILHSG0

Posted by: wbgonne | May 8, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Benen links to another dilly here... http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jacobs-may-day-2010-saved-times-square

But you know, who doesn't want to be an intercessor? Who doesn't wish to turn reality into a Disney film with pretty clouds and talking bunny rabbits?

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Re Palin... note too that Beck has recently come out against McCain's tea party opponent. These guys are following Limbaugh's role, that is, to promote Republican electoral wins. That's all Ailes is about and where Beck or Palin move in some counter direction (3rd party fomenting) they'll be pulled back instantly. McCain is not a favorite of Ailes but for him to lose this primary would be symbolically dangerous to the Republicans because it would demonstrate the extent of the extremism of the base they are pushing.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

All, Saturday roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/05/saturday_roundup.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | May 8, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Something to watch as time passes...
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/07/93761/despite-spill-feds-still-giving.html

Posted by: bernielatham | May 8, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I really think that the Washingpost is like some other News people and only want to post things that they like to hear.
There is not one person but Obama himself that knows who he really is. Its not only the lies he tells but he is really pi$$ing people off and thats what he wants. If he can cause one He11 of an uprising and riots and etc. before the fall elections because the Democrats will be history after the fall elections, he will impose marshal law which means all elections are off till he deems things are under control.

Posted by: dirtydaug | May 8, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I really think that the Washingpost is like some other News people and only want to post things that they like to hear.
There is not one person but Obama himself that knows who he really is. Its not only the lies he tells but he is really pi$$ing people off and thats what he wants. If he can cause one He11 of an uprising and riots and etc. before the fall elections because the Democrats will be history after the fall elections, he will impose marshal law which means all elections are off till he deems things are under control.

Posted by: dirtydaug | May 8, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

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