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* The latest on the Times/Blumenthal war: Politico reports that The New York Times did, in fact, possess the full video of Richard Blumenthal's incriminating speech -- but still posted a truncated one omitting the part where he described his service in technically accurate terms.

Times top editor Bill Keller defends the decision by saying Blumenthal's claim that he served "during Vietnam" doesn't contradict his later false assertion that he served "in Vietnam." That's true, and there's no quibbling with the fact that Blumenthal did repeatedly mislead.

But Blumenthal's earlier description does raise at least the possibility that the false description the paper presented as its most important piece of evidence was inadvertent, even if it doesn't prove this one way or the other.

Reasonable people can disagree over whether his earlier description was relevant or exculpatory in any way. But it seems to me that it's precisely because this point is debatable that it would have been better to err on the side of more context, not less, particularly on a story as explosive as this one. The Public Editor weighs in tomorrow.

* Rand Paul postcript: For what it's worth, Paul himself is still declining to explain to Meet the Press why he canceled Sunday's appearance. Meet exec producer Betsy Fischer says she asked the campaign if she could talk to Paul personally to try to persuade him to change his mind, but he hasn't returned the call.

"So far, nothing," Fischer says. "If he changes his mind and wants to come on, we'll have him."

I don't really care if Paul returns the Meet crew's calls or not. But it's another sign of how deeply he's retreated into bunker mode and how peeved he is with the national media.

* Indeed, top sources tell Mike Allen that he's doing no national interviews for the foreseeable future.

* Jonathan Weisman: The battle over Rand's comments is really a battle over the legacy of the New Deal.

* Obama administration wins a "victory" in its efforts to hold terror suspects abroad indefinitely with no judicial oversight.

* Bold pronouncement of the day, from David Leonhardt: Passage of FinReg caps 16 months of legislative activity that "rivals the New Deal in scope" and signals a "generational shift" in Washington.

* Yes, Rand Paul says he wouldn't repeal old legislative achievements, but his views on the role of the Federal government have relevance as a clue to how he'll vote going forward. This is what Paul doesn't want to talk about.

* Linda McMahon gets the GOP Senate nod in Connecticut, meaning it's less likely Blumenthal will face real live Vietnam vet Rob Simmons.

* Chris Van Hollen hopes Republican opposition to Wall Street reform drives a wedge between the GOP and the Tea Party. Maybe...

* Joe Scarborough, to Think Progress: "If a politican can't handle an interview, they can't handle the Senate."

* And Steve Benen notes that by Rand Paul's logic, a woman's uterus and a gay couple's bedroom must be public entities.

What else is happening?

UPDATE, 12: 07 p.m.: Item on The Times edited slightly for accuracy.

By Greg Sargent  |  May 22, 2010; 10:59 AM ET
Categories:  2010 elections , Political media , Senate Republicans , Tea Party  
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Hmmmm what other prominent Republican figure who was a darling of the wingnut had a similar start to them being on the national stage where they had a couple of disasterous interviews with the mainstream media and then retreated back to the right wing cocoon?

Oh yeah, Sarah Palin. Seeing as how Palin already endorsed Rand Paul this is another gift from the heavens for Kentucky Democrats. They should be pushing that connection as an anti intellectual, dangerous, uninformed, extreme alliance and scare the general election voters away from him ASAP. If he won't go on the mainstream media other than FoxNews the KY Dems should be asking "what is he afraid of" every single day. And of course they need to be pushing their candidate holding mainstream stances on issues and pointing out all the crazy stuff and crazy people Paul feels comfortable associating with. How about the Amero? How about truther/Stormfront guy Alex Jones?

I don't care how red Kentucky is, if the Dems can't beat Rand Paul they should just throw in the towel.

Posted by: sgwhiteinfla | May 22, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Joe Scarborough has never demonstrated any ability for critical thinking. He is a political hack who like all the Conservatives/Republicans/TeaPartiers simply cannot deal with the truth. Pointing out obvious FACTS to righties is like telling a small child there is no Santa Claus. They simply cannot leave their FauxPropaganda/Lamebaugh/Beck cocoon of hate, lies and distortion. The right currently has nobody with an ounce of courage. They have been reduced to name calling and denial.

It's not just Rand Paul...another tea party fave Marco Rubio was finally pressured into releasing his tax returns.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/rubios-income-grew-with-his-political-clout-tax-records-show/1096766

Rubio's tax returns show that his income increased from $82,710 in 2000 when he was elected to the Florida House to $301,864 in 2004 — the year he stepped on the political track to become House speaker, one of the Legislature's most powerful posts. During his last year in Tallahassee, Rubio earned nearly $400,000.

Rubio's income quadrupled during his tenure in the House and as Speaker. At the same time special interests were feeding at the taxpayer trough. Some of those same special interests that received MILLIONS in taxpayer dollars funneled some of that money right back to Rubio in the form of consultant/teaching jobs.

REALLY is it such a left wing consipiracy to ask Rubio about the clear REALITY that at minimum he profited handsomely from his "public" service and at maximum used his office in an egregious looting job to personally enrich himself?

I mean it's wacky world in the Tea Party.
Can people not put two and two together. A young man gets elected to the House and then to Speaker of the House and his income goes from 82,000 to over 400,000 during that SAME FREAKING PERIOD. How the eff do the morons in the Tea Party suppose Rubio pulled this off?

The Tea Party's next big candidate after Rand Paul and Marco Rubio...Forrest Gump someone who can best represent what the common tea partieRs thinks.

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 22, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

It's rare that I agree with Joe Scarborough on anything, but he is spot on when he says of Paul "... if a politican can't handle an interview, they can't handle the Senate."

Does Rand Paul think that if he makes it to the Senate that his Democratic colleagues will be more deferential than were (or rather, weren't) Maddow and Stephanopolous?

He wants the adulation of the teabagger crowds, not messy questions from reporters. He doesn't believe in democracy at all. He is espousing nothing less than authoritarian rule. And don't ask him any questions about that either, thank you very much.

Rand Paul will be in his cave until November.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 22, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I can't give many kudos to Scarborough. His initial response, although claiming to be reporting what others (nameless, of course) were saying, was basically throwing MSNBC and Rachel under the bus. He didn't clarify his own view until pushed by Think Progess.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | May 22, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I was born and raised in Kentucky until I left for the Army at age 18. I return for a visit every Thanksgiving. Alas I must confess my cousins are absolute racists, they will not be affected one iota and probably support the concept of restaurants, hotels, golf courses, etc being able to pick and choose who they want to admit.

Unfortunately as much as I love them they are also very poorly educated. They will not connect the dots that the Social Security they are looking forward to in about five years is something that Rand Paul is against. They will not realize that Rand Paul and libertarians don't give a rat's arse about them but only preserving the rights of the wealthy to get even wealthier. They buy into all the hogwash about socialism, government regulatons without ever realizing how BP has bought off our government.

We have morons on this very blog who post about a "free market" yeah there's a concept that actually exists...in their dreams. Where are the good Repubs like Teddy Roosevelt when you need them. The corporatists have taken over...anybody who can't see how powerful monopolies are turning the country into an oligarchy just do not wish to face reality!

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 22, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Gas and all, what's even more telling (and pathetic) for Paul is that he's begging off MTP. Oh noes, David Gregory! His rapier intellect is just too much!

Come on, if you can't get rehabilitated by Gregory, you might as well hang it up.

His next statement will probably be: "As a Libertarian, I will run for the Senate but will not participate in governing."

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 22, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"David Gregory! His rapier intellect is just too much!"

Ouch! But dead on target BG

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 22, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Interesting take on Rand/MTP from Jonathan Capehart:

"Sure, if he disappeared for the next two days, hunkered down to prepare as if he were getting ready to defend his dissertation, and devised answers for all the tough questions that would be put to him, he still would have come out bloody. But getting through it would earn him major points for gall and guts. And if Paul were smart, he would have used every negative question about his controversial views as an opportunity to pivot to say something positive about his candidacy and Kentucky. By canceling Meet the Press he's compounding the hardening impression that is he not that smart -- and also not ready."

Posted by: suekzoo1 | May 22, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

ruk, so true about KY, and many other states with low-info voters (sorry, but that's just a polite way of saying that some people don't know much about what's going on in the world beyond their little corner of it, and that would be fine if they didn't lash out at others).

My IN family is a bit more up and down and generally not political, but the influence of Fox and radio is pernicious. The wife's family, much more educated, more money, and west coast are....flaming Republicans. So, you just never know.

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 22, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

BG Like most states Kentucky is not completely homogenous. Certainly Louisville, Lexington and Northern Kentucky(Greater Cincinnati and close to your beloved Indiana) are more cosmopolitan and better educated.

The saddest thing is that the "low-info voters" you describe almost always vote against their own best interest. And so having spent some time in Appalachia where Rand Paul would describe an incident in a mine that claimed a dozen of their citizens as just "an accident" and he would totally be against OSHA, mining safety supervision of any kind from the Gov't, many of these folks will not realize that and love Paul because he has the "guts" to put those "N's" back in their place. Obama already has made them too uppity. Anybody who watched the incredible video clips from the West Va presidential primary will know exactly what I mean.

Many of these folks are actually hard working wonderful people who have just fallen for the corporatist propaganda and the strategy of divide and conquer.

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 22, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

BTW BG...yes we in Kentucky will always have our "Hatfield versus McCoys" hillbilly image.

But I can trust you won't be unwise enough to pile on because you're a nice guy and wasn't Indiana once famous as the center of KKK life? :-)

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 22, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Paul sounds not at all like a Libertarian, but exactly like a John Bircher. His positions are simply bizarre.

However, by cowering from the press, he looks like someone who is afraid to defend his positions against any questioning. How does this tactic bode well for a career in the United States Senate? Even the GOP goobers in the Senate like McConnell, Coburn, and Inhofe don't pee their pants at the merest thought of an interview from the press.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 22, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

If any of the "free market" wingnuts decide to visit today...how about a look from Wikipedia about what our government REALLY looks like. And trust me this is NON PARTISAN...it infects both R's and D's. The only difference in Rand Paul is he thinks it's a GOOD THING while the normal R's and D's try to hide it!!!!

Crony capitalism is a pejorative term describing an allegedly capitalist economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between businesspeople and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, and so forth.

Crony capitalism is believed to arise when political cronyism spills over into the business world; self-serving friendships and family ties between businessmen and the government influence the economy and society to the extent that it corrupts public-serving economic and political ideals.

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 22, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

What else is happening?

The New Orleans Time Picayune, the Louisiana paper of record, is advocating more money for Louisiana from drilling, rather than ending drilling off the Louisiana Coast. The paper is following Corporate Wh*re Mary Landrieu in asking for more money to sell their state to the oil companies. You want to know why Louisiana is forever a basket case, here's your answer.

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/offset_drilling_risk_with_oil.html

Posted by: wbgonne | May 22, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Re: Blumenthal:

Greg, with all respect, the NYTimes coverage is not the issue. It appears the CT Dems are going with Blumenthal no matter what. I predict they will regret this decision. I guarantee there will soon be devastating TV ads using Blumenthal's false claims of Vietnam service that will tarnish not just him, but Democrats generally. This isn;t like Clinton, who was already the President; Blumenthal isn't even the nominee yet. Cut bait, Dems, or live with the consequences.

Posted by: wbgonne | May 22, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

These two graphs and quotes from the Leonhardt piece linked by Greg seem spot on to me...


The recent period surely will not match the impact of the New Deal. Nothing is likely to, notes David Kennedy,a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian, because the New Deal created much of the modern American government. “These are not as dramatic as the foundational moments,” Mr. Kennedy said, “but they’re significant changes.”

Alan Brinkley, a historian of the Depression, added: “This is not the New Deal, but it’s a significant series of achievements. And given the difficulty of getting anything done under the gridlock of Congress, it’s pretty surprising.”

Posted by: bernielatham | May 22, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, Rand Paul says he wouldn't repeal old legislative achievements, but his views on the role of the Federal government have relevance as a clue to how he'll vote going forward. This is what Paul doesn't want to talk about."

That is absolutely correct but here is the problem. Since the current GOP opposes EVERYTHING and has so far done so with impunity, Paul will simply blend into the chorus of no when it comes to new proposals. It is only attacks on the progress made long ago and woven into the society's fabric that provide the power to illustrate the depravity of Rand Paul's view of governance. My guess is Paul announces that he will no longer discuss historical events, only the future and then he will get interviewed only by FOX to make sure the edict sticks.

Posted by: wbgonne | May 22, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

""As a Libertarian, I will run for the Senate but will not participate in governing."


Or, "Sure I'll fly the plane but don't expect me to land it." (Kudos to Rep. Grayson).

Posted by: wbgonne | May 22, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

BTW: I had dinner in Boston last night and shrimp were off the menu because of the Gulf Oil Disaster. This is just beginning.

Posted by: wbgonne | May 22, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

True redemption from sin is achieved throug lawyers...

"Earlier this week, the Vatican offered its "most detailed defense yet against claims that it is liable for U.S. bishops who allowed priests to molest children." Among the new arguments: the Roman Catholic Bishops are not technically Vatican employees."
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ (This Week in God)

Posted by: bernielatham | May 22, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

There are really quite a lot of words in the language which could be applied to this very horrid human...

"Blankenship Claims Excessive Regulation Might Have Led to Mine Explosion"
http://washingtonindependent.com/85397/massey-ceo-pushes-blame-for-deadly-blast-on-government

Posted by: bernielatham | May 22, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Or, "Sure I'll fly the plane but don't expect me to land it." (Kudos to Rep. Grayson).

I like it.

And yes, Bernie, Blankenship is a foul, disgusting human being. What could he be spending his money on that would make it worth killing people for.

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 22, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Gas,

Re.: Previous thread...
I don't think I've posted here for a fortnight or so. No sooner do I do as thou hast found consonant a resurrection of some tossed Renovian stroke, unstrung from the thread extant. Heat not a Gas furnace for your foe so hot that it do singe yourself.

IOW: I can't be bothered to bring my A/Game to a JuniorB left-wing who confuses insolence with insight; and also can't skate.

Posted by: tao9 | May 22, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"That is absolutely correct but here is the problem. Since the current GOP opposes EVERYTHING and has so far done so with impunity, Paul will simply blend into the chorus of no when it comes to new proposals."

Shucks, I guess that means we can't count on his vote to repeal DADT? I am so let down, I thought he would be the bipartisan support

The Democrats are loosing a lot of free airtime to drive a wedge between the tea party and Independent voters. If they were smart they would be quietly escalating the tea party = racist and bigots rumor by anonymously adding footage of Limpballs and Speck to the mix... I would be showing their intolerance to the air we breath, the gulf we love, the diversity of the tired, poor, huddled masses who accepted the invitation to breathe free, etc...

Posted by: soapm | May 22, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

One thing is for sure, the Republicans have given the Democrats a plethora of comments to use against them in campaign ads. The Democrats need to use Republicans' own words to expose them as corrupt partisan obstructionists who care more about money and power than stabilizing and strengthening the country in difficult financial times.

Rand Paul: "Accidents happen." O.M.G.!!!

Posted by: Beeliever | May 22, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

OK: Rand is ducking a grilling on MTP. Does not say much about his understanding of MTP or the other shows on Sunday softball gasbaggery. Gregory will give him all the leeway he needs to deliver his swill.If Greory plays this right he can increase his declining numbers by advertising MTP as the show avoided by Rand and his Tea party crowd.

Posted by: bitterpill8 | May 22, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

RE: Rand Paul's bunker.

It's clear that his political philosophy has four pillars... to morph the old Reagan "three - legged stool."

Austrian Economics

Ludwig Von Mises, Hayek, and "historian" Tom Woods, who works with the LVM institute.

Bircher / Alex Jones / Constitution Party - Style Conspiracy Theories

In his interviews with Jones, Paul was careful not to repeat phrases that could be used against him later on, but the topics of conversation are generally way out there (the Bilderberg Group, the potential of a "shooting war" with the federal government, etc.) I think the role Alex Jones and Chuck Baldwin - types played in his father's campaign has yet to be fully appreciated. They were a driving force.

There is video somewhere of Jesse Ventura addressing the initial Campaign For Liberty / Ron Paul 2008 counter - convention, and as soon as he alludes to the "9/11 Truth" movement, the crowd erupts into cheers. (Grover Norquist and Tucker Carlson also took part in this event. Tucker introduced Norquist, which is odd considering their feud. Behold the uniting power of Ron Paul).

Ayn Rand

This one is self - evident. Paul wasn't named after her, but she shaped both Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and Rand's wife Kelly's politics.

Ron Paul

Having parents who think one way is not a guarantee that someone will follow suit (my family is very conservative, for instance). But it's rather obvious that Rand has never challenged his father's beliefs... or seen them aggressively challenged. Rand himself admits this on numerous occasions, saying that the only real difference between the two is presentation -- namely on national security and foreign policy.

Austrian economics are so far out there -- so plainly and sometimes proudly ridiculous -- that it's hard to see Rand or anyone embracing and standing by people like Von Mises and Hayek ("Road to Serfdom" = the original astroturf campaign) unless they have been indoctrinated.

The views of these four groups dovetail a great deal. Filter the mix through a Republican Senate primary in Kentucky, and you get Rand Paul: Candidate On The Run.

All this to say/ask... was there ever a time when Rand Paul wasn't in a bunker?

Posted by: MichaelConrad | May 22, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

On a related note...

Atlas Shat
http://www.thenation.com/article/garbage-and-gravitas?page=0,0

http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/wealthcare-0

http://motherjones.com/media/2009/07/and-rand-played

Posted by: MichaelConrad | May 22, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Although I will admit there is a lot to dismiss about Rand Paul, I see at least two good things about Rand Paul being in the Senate race.

1. It woke up the Democratic voters who were being increasingly turned off by our Presidents stand on just about anything to pay attention to this November's elections (for example: suddenly he's for off-shore drilling, ramped up the war in Afghanistan, plus hasn't fulfilled very many of the campaign promises he made and to me is barely recognizable to the guy I voted for). BTW, I am a Democrat.

2. Hopefully Saturday Night Live (which has only been interesting when Tina Fey does her Sarah Palin or when Betty White is on) will find a comedian to do to Rand Paul what Tina did to Sarah (to be fair to Sarah, she too was fun to watch when she was on SLN).
Personally, I think Dana Carvey could do the job. I see a little “Church Lady” in Rand’s view of things.

Posted by: garykevin | May 22, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"What else is happening?"

Scott Brown voted for the Senate Dems' Wall St. reform bill. The teabaggers noticed. They are NOT amused!

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/05/22/former_allies_tee_off_on_brown/

Posted by: akaoddjob | May 22, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

As others have noted, Rand Paul's version of libertarianism doesn't reach to a woman's womb...

"As a libertarian, Paul theoretically wants to limit the government’s power to do very much of anything -- so it's not surprising that his views coincide with those of Scheer and other progressives on a few items, like the Iraq War, bank bailouts, and the Patriot Act. There’s one area, though, in which Paul apparently wants the government to play a much bigger role: your womb. Women can forget about the “privacy’ and “liberty” Paul touts on his website; warnings against government encroachment on freedom do not apply to female citizens of Paul’s back-to-basics Republic. As per his website, we get the Human Life amendment banning all abortion even for rape and incest, “a Sanctity of Life Amendment, establishing the principle that life begins at conception,” a funding ban on Planned parenthood, and a ban on the Supreme court taking up abortion-related cases. No wonder he's been endorsed by Operation Rescue founder and general all-around sleazemeister Randall Terry." http://www.thenation.com/blog/rand-paul-principled-libertarian-not-0

Randall Terry, no less. There's a real libertarian for you.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 22, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

@garykevin...Agree 100% that Carvey would be able to do an excellent Rand Paul if he wish to make an alumnus appearance on SNL

@MichaelConrad Thanks for those EXCELLENT links to the Ayn Rand material. What a losing philosophy. What an immoral heartless philosophy. And what an arrogant egotistical human..who would ever wish to emulate Ayn Rand?

We have a fellow at our golf course who rides in his expensive sports car with a bumper sticker you may have seen.

"As Ayn Rand points out the greatest virtue is reason"

What a load of crap to justify pure greed and selfishness. Reason was certainly not one of the original seven virtues pointed out by Aristotle and Plato. Nor will you find it on a more modern comprehensive list compiled by VirtueScience.com

http://www.virtuescience.com/virtuelist.html

What you will find however is the virtue of selflessness...the antithesis of Rand and the right's practice of selfishness.

Someone should write a sequel to Atlas Shrugged where John and Dagny Galt have to live behind high walls defended by personal armed police and military because they have greedily used their superior intellects to corner the market and have all the money.

The kind of lifestyle already taking place in some Latin American Countries..especially those which embraced Milton the Selfish Friedman's ideas. And alas where the United States is heading if we don't mend our "greed is good" ways.

Posted by: rukidding7 | May 22, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"Scott Brown voted for the Senate Dems' Wall St. reform bill. The teabaggers noticed. They are NOT amused!"

oddjob, two humorous things in the article you linked:

1.) The teabagger who notes to Brown "we put you in, we'll take you out."

2.) The fact that most of the upset with Brown among the teahadis is coming from outside MA.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | May 22, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Eric Alterman, always worth reading...

"Everything about the Tea Party indicates that it will peak in power on Election Day 2010 at the latest. After that, two factors will almost certainly intervene to cause its demise. First, a few of its minions will be elected to office and begin to fight with one another on the one hand and reality on the other. And second, the kind of people who do not vote in off-year primaries or are not even aware of their taking place will re-enter the political debate and inject a measure of common sense.

In the meantime, however, a few more jobs and some tough rules on runaway banks wouldn’t hurt. An awful lot of people just need to know their president is on their side." http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/05/ta052010.html

Posted by: bernielatham | May 22, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Even better than a little Alterman is more Alterman. Here on the Financial Reg bill...

"Obama's Impossibly Complex Win"
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-05-21/obamas-iffy-financial-regulation-victory/

Posted by: bernielatham | May 22, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

NYT reporting on this occasion is comparable to when Brietbart edited the pimp and the prostitute film and left out parts that would have exonerated some of the ACORN employees.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | May 22, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

"Most rabbis probably don't think too highly of Sarah Silverman, the foulmouthed, American-Jewish comic who makes a point of being as racist, sexist and generally as politically incorrect as possible. Not so Rabbi Susan Silverman, who says she is "immensely proud" of the controversial comedienne - who in one of her famous lines says she was raped by a doctor, "which is so bittersweet for a Jewish girl." Sarah Silverman's dirty jokes, says the rabbi - who happens to be her older sister - are actually serving a holy purpose, at least as much as a rabbi's sermons...."
http://www.haaretz.com/magazine/anglo-file/seeing-the-holy-in-the-profanities-1.291375

Posted by: bernielatham | May 22, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Good John Cole post on Rand Paul and MTP and why Paul could have easily handled the situation. And first there's a really interesting analysis by Josh Green on why journos have failed to question pols on what they stand for and how they'd govern. Here are Cole's closing comments:

"Is there anyone out there who honestly thinks that David Gregory has the chops to aggressively confront Rand Paul in the same manner that Maddow did? Anyone? And if so, have you seen David Gregory in action? Do you recall Gregory aggressively confronting anyone who has spewed bullsh*t on his show, ever? Senile Senator John McCain is on MTP almost every other week- do you remember any of his insane ramblings being shot down?

David Gregory can’t take the time to be informed enough to casually do what Maddow did. He’s too busy pushing a he-said she-said both sides do it narrative, and doesn’t really think the issues are important- the horse race is what matters. That is the problem with our current beltway media- everyone wants to announce the race, but no one knows anything about the sport or the horse."

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/05/22/have-you-ever-watched-meet-the-press/

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 22, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Hadn't seen much on this crazy right winger who shot up the cops in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSFwg9V4RcA

h/t LFG

Posted by: mikefromArlington | May 22, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Mike, HuffPost has a piece too. Man, guy and his son. Batsh*t crazy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/22/jerry-kane-joseph-antigovernment_n_586127.html

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 22, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

BG, thanks for this from John Cole on David Gregory: "He’s too busy pushing a he-said she-said both sides do it narrative, and doesn’t really think the issues are important- the horse race is what matters. That is the problem with our current beltway media- everyone wants to announce the race, but no one knows anything about the sport or the horse."

My feelings exactly. And it applies to the majority of the MSM.

Posted by: AllButCertain | May 22, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Here's a discussion topic for the rest of the weekend.

From DougJ at Balloon Juice:

"How does the right do it?


If you’re an American and you believe that the government should respect habeas corpus or privacy rights or the separation of church and state, or that invading foreign countries for no reason with no plan is bad, or that torture is bad, then you hate America. If you’re a Catholic and you believe that raping children is bad or that social justice is central to Catholicism or that that it’s okay for a democratically elected representative in a secular government to vote in favor of reproductive rights, then you’re a cafeteria Catholic. If you’re Jewish and you think that nuking Tehran is a bad idea, then you’re a self-hating Jew.

How did the far right mange to do this? These are three different (if connected) arenas with three different sets of issues. Why does the right hold the patriotic/one truth faith/etc. higher ground in all of them?

I believe this is the central question of modern American politics."

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 22, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow the "Obama Zombies" here are really going at it. Just read that book. Greg Sargent, you didn't make the list. I guess you're not journalistically prodigious enough, dispite your leanings. As to what else is going on? How about that healthcare bill:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703315404575250264210294510.html?mod=rss_Today's_Most_Popular

Posted by: actuator | May 22, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh and let's go all out for immigration reform e.g. amnesty. After all what's a federal law worth when the federal executive branch under the last 3 or 4 presidents have had no desire to enforce it. Go for it Arizona, you only have the support of 7 out of 10 Americans. BTW how about a little border security:

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html

Posted by: actuator | May 22, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's hear it for climate legislation, yeah!!!

http://people-press.org/report/615/

Posted by: actuator | May 22, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

tao9,
I'll have you know that I grew up on skates. I played hockey until my college days, then had to give it up because my school had little more than a pickup team. I grew up watching the Ft. Wayne Komets when they were an IHL Penguins minor league team. You know not of what ye speak. I am such a hockey fan that I decided to sleep with a Canadian permanently.

I was even living in the Dallas area during the glory years of the Stars when they won the Stanley Cup.

While a may be politically a left winger, I play left defense when on skates.

They started an adult league here a couple of years ago, but I've not been able to make it to the ice. Maybe next year. Real outdoor ice here, no indoor sissy stuff.

The resident Canadian is rather depressed about le Habs. If they lose to the Flyers, it will be sackcloth and ashes á la chez Gasman.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 23, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Gas, it's not too late: you can still convert to the Hawks.

All the expat Hoosiers are doing it....

Posted by: BGinCHI | May 23, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

I’m not a huge Bill Maher fan, but he had several good jabs at Rand Paul.

Of Paul, Maher said:

“How to describe Rand Paul? I mean, he’s a doctor. It’s as if Sarah Palin somehow made it through medical school."

“He says restaurants should be able to refuse service to black people. And today he said that Obama was unAmerican because he was getting on BP’s case for the oil spill. I tell ya’, the sh*t doesn’t fall far from the bat, does it?”

“Every time this guy opens his mouth it gets a little crazier. Today he angrily demanded that liberal media quit quoting him in context.”

“I mean, I guess he’s trying to get the press to get off the, you know, racism thing, so what his big thing today was that the oil spill in the Gulf was, you know, the Blame Game. He said, ‘you know, sometimes accidents happen.’ Which is not really what you want to hear from the guy that’s doing your LASIK surgery. ‘Come on! You’ve got another eye!’”

“ New rule: anytime anyone prefaces a statement by saying ‘I am not a racist,’ some racist sh*t is about to come out of their mouth.”

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 23, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Two quick things:

As expected, Dijou wins in HI.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/05/22/hi-01-djou-wins-special-election/

Dijou (R) - 39.5%
Hanabusa (D) - 30.8%
Case (D) - 27.6%

While plural of anecdote is not data, I think it's fair to say that this is part of a trend. The ability of grassropts Democrats to pick the best general election election candidates has been greatly underestimated.

Posted by: MichaelConrad | May 23, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

BGinCHI,
We had a junior team in Santa Fe for but a single season and we have/had the Albuquerque Scorpions, but I'm not sure if they are still in operation. I am seriously Jonesin' for some pro hockey. We are kind of equidistant from the Coyotes, Avs, and the Stars. As a matter of principle, I will not take any tourist dollars to AZ, so, I'm left with Denver or Dallas. You just about have to kill someone to get Avs tickets and my resident Canadian hates Texas. What is this hockey fan to do?

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 23, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

BGinCHI,
Besides, I thought that the Hawks were an NBA team.

Posted by: Gasman1 | May 23, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Gas,
OK, the AdHomineys here get my blood up on rare occasion.
Condolences to Ms. Gas re: Habs.

Posted by: tao9 | May 23, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

One has to laugh when when Actuator: "Ditto-Head" follower of Rush Dimbecile, calls other people Zombies!!!

Posted by: Liam-still | May 23, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

re Actuator and others...

How is Rupert Murdoch regarded by these folks? That's a curiosity, isn't it? Is he seen as an honest straight-talker? A man driven by an unusually strong sense of civic responsibility and duty? A true-blue American type who identifies with and cares deeply about the lives of the ordinary citizens of Arkansas and Wyoming?

Posted by: bernielatham | May 23, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

BG quotes: "How did the far right mange to do this? These are three different (if connected) arenas with three different sets of issues. Why does the right hold the patriotic/one truth faith/etc. higher ground in all of them?
I believe this is the central question of modern American politics."

Not ignoring such an opportunity to climb up on my hobby horse... the only means for these to have been achieved is successful propaganda. Once that is acknowledged, then it is a matter of reverse engineering how it got done.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 23, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Arrest those hens!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/22/AR2010052203482.html?hpid=politics

Posted by: bernielatham | May 23, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Rand, Country Club Populist, Paul is a phony Libertarian, just like his Dad. As Bill Maher said: "The Sh*it Does Not Fall Far From The Bat."


Excerpt from The Nation:

"here’s one area, though, in which Paul apparently wants the government to play a much bigger role: your womb. Women can forget about the “privacy’ and “liberty” Paul touts on his website; warnings against government encroachment on freedom do not apply to female citizens of Paul’s back-to-basics Republic. As per his website, we get the Human Life amendment banning all abortion even for rape and incest, “a Sanctity of Life Amendment, establishing the principle that life begins at conception,” a funding ban on Planned parenthood, and a ban on the Supreme court taking up abortion-related cases. No wonder he's been endorsed by Operation Rescue founder and general all-around sleazemeister Randall Terry.

As with many of Paul’s statements and positions, you wonder if he’s thought about them for more than two minutes. How, after all, is a ban on abortion to be implemented except by a massive government intrusion into private and personal behavior? To say nothing of monitoring thousands of medical practices, clinics, hospitals and pharmacies --apparently the only businesses Paul would want to put under government oversight."

Posted by: Liam-still | May 23, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I sometimes like Kathleen Parker. She was, for example, one of the few on the right who had the courage and integrity to speak honestly about Palin and that's no small thing. But other times...sheesh. It's like the better part of her brain slips into neutral.

Take the title of her recent column, "Real Marines Don't Lie". Well, on second thought, there's Oliver North and there's Lee Harvey Oswald and Drew Carey and James Carville and F Lee Baily etcetereteroonie.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 23, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"I am going to clean up Washington, and destroy big government, provided I do not have to face David Gregory. If I encounter him, then I will run and hide like a scared chicken, only suitable to be used by Sue Lowden."

Rand, Country Club, Paul

Posted by: Liam-still | May 23, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of column titles, Kristol has a classic over at Weekly Standard...

"Marx, Keynes, Pelosi" (augmented by photographs of the three, in same sequence)

Cute. Of course, we could do the following which would reflect reality quite as accurately:

"Machiavelli, Goebbels, Kristol"

An interesting aspect here is the target (over and above Keynes, that is) of Pelosi. But that's a commonplace propaganda strategy - derogation of whoever is in a leadership position precisely because they are in that position. There's zero chance that Kristol wouldn't do this regardless of whoever among Dems held the post.

Posted by: bernielatham | May 23, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

All, Sunday roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/05/sunday_roundup_1.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | May 23, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Ahh, healthcare reform, another way for the American taxpayer to foot the bill for the arts:

http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=3086

Posted by: actuator | May 23, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I know there are more than 30 comments on this story, but I MUST say something.

I lived at Travis AFB during the Vietnam War. I saw the caskets piled up along the fence waiting for bodies and the broken bodies and souls coming off the planes.

Not EVERYONE I knew went over to Vietnam.... but every man that served in the military is called:

A VIETNAM VETERAN...

This story was brought in by his opponent and is being air on Joe Scarborough's show for over two (2) hours of his 3-hour show.

This is a NON-story..... STOP spinning.

Posted by: DinkLane | May 24, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

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