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Cantor to Obama: Stand up for Israel!

I noted below that it was only a matter of time before Republicans urged Obama to stand up more forcefully for Israel against criticism of its flotilla attack. GOP Rep. Eric Cantor, who is Jewish, is first out of the gate, urging Obama to veto any U.N. resolution condemning Israel:

"The events of the last 48 hours are tragic and serve as the latest warning sign that all is not well in the Middle East. As information continues to filter in, I urge the President and his administration to continue to gather all the facts, and if necessary, to veto any biased U.N. resolutions reining in Israel's right to defend itself.

"Israel remains a critical strategic ally and the only democracy in the Middle East. The United States stands with Jerusalem in its effort to ensure the safety and security of its citizenry. We can't forget why the blockade exists in the first place: to deny Hamas the weaponry and raw materials it needs to continue its rocket attacks in Israel, killing innocent people.

"Before predictably rushing to level hyperbolic accusations at Israel, it's important for the United Nations to consider all the facts surrounding this incident. The reality is that the so-called "humanitarian aid" flotilla steered into an internationally recognized Israeli-Egyptian military blockade of Gaza in an effort to provoke Israel."

The Obama administration is treading an incredibly fine line here, quietly urging foreign leaders not to pass judgment on Israel before all the facts are in, while trying not to appear too supportive of Israel in the face of mounting global criticism.

The pressure from Cantor suggests that nothing short of a full-throated defense of Israel's actions on the part of the U.S. -- something that would do immense damage to ongoing diplomatic efforts -- will prevent criticism from the right.

Also: Note that Cantor's claim that the flotilla pilots were trying to provoke Israel mirrors Anthony Weiner's assertion from earlier today. It'll be interesting to see how wide consensus is in Congress behind this interpretation.

By Greg Sargent  |  June 1, 2010; 4:19 PM ET
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How is transporting humanitarian supplies in international waters provoking anything from anybody? Somehow the effort to crush the economy of Gaza and starve out its residents is not being reported in the US MSM. Why is that?

Posted by: srw3 | June 1, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"Cantor, who is Jewish."

Who cares? Did you make similar point about ethnicity and/or religion of Weiner/Clinton?

Posted by: sbj3 | June 1, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

sbj -- he's the only jewish republican in the House ... that's noteworthy.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | June 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he mentions it because Jewish Republicans are very rare.

Posted by: bourassa1 | June 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

@Greg: "Note that Cantor's claim that the flotilla pilots were trying to provoke Israel mirrors Anthony Weiner's assertion from earlier today. It'll be interesting to see how wide consensus is in Congress behind this interpretation."

Please note that (per Ben Smith) Alejandro Wolff, the deputy U.S. ambassador, has already made this assertion:

"ALEJANDRO WOLFF (United States) regretted the tragic loss of life and injury. He expected a credible and transparent investigation and urged the Council to conduct one fully. Today’s events were a reminder of a similar situation in 2008, during which time the United States had stressed that non-provocative and non-confrontational mechanisms existed for humanitarian aid delivery into Gaza. The direct delivery by sea was not appropriate, or responsible."

Posted by: sbj3 | June 1, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

@Greg: "sbj -- he's the only jewish republican in the House ... that's noteworthy."

And yet, for some reason, you failed to make that "noteworthy" point in your post.

Posted by: sbj3 | June 1, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Dog bites man. Nothing new to see here.

Posted by: hoos3014 | June 1, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I am sick of my tax dollars being spent to help Israel kill people. The land where Israel is located was and still is the Palantine property. The treaty signed in the 1940 should never have allowed Israel the right to land where they are located. Israel has bullied the people in that area for years simply because the US was always their to back them up. It is not right that the Israel can kill, bomb and murder people without justification.

If their plans are to kill all the people living in that region; then I say do it without American tax dollars!

Posted by: sun52shine | June 1, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

It's the only democracy in the Middle East? What a slap in the face to our newly created ones in Iraq and Afghanistan. Cantor must not consider ones created in Muslim countries democratic.

Posted by: AverageJane | June 1, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

After reading three of Greg Sargent's posts on Israel, it is clear that he is sympathetic to Turkey, France, the Palestinians, Hamas and Iran, not to Israel and America. He's a kid and doesn't get it.

Posted by: donaldjohnson | June 1, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

lindalovejones: "Jewish jibberish."

And what does this mean? i usually like your posts when you go at it with tea tards but you are teetering on the fence here. Your explanation better be good.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 1, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Until all of the facts are in Cantor should keep his mouth shut.

Posted by: AverageJane | June 1, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

Please remove the two insulting comments above by commenters:

flyersout
lindalovejones

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

@ sbj3: Are you aware that the Israelis deliver relief supplies to Gaza? Do you understand that Hamas-controlled Gaza is under blockade by both Israel and Egypt?

I am aware that very basic supplies like cement for rebuilding houses, spare parts, fuel, many kinds of foodstuffs, and other raw materials etc are routinely stopped at the checkpoints by the Israelis and not allowed in.

"The UN relief agency for Palestinian refugees Unrwa's list of household items that have been refused entry at various times includes light bulbs, candles, matches, books, musical instruments, crayons, clothing, shoes, mattresses, sheets, blankets, pasta, tea, coffee, chocolate, nuts, shampoo and conditioner. Many other items - ranging from cars to fridges to computers - are generally refused entry.
Building materials such as cement, concrete and wood were nearly always refused entry until early 2010, when some glass, wood, cement and aluminium were allowed in...The blockade has taken its toll on Gaza's water and sewage network. Lack of spare parts has made repairs difficult. Intermittent power supplies have made pumps reliant on generators, which in turn have lacked spare parts and fuel.
The WHO says Operation Cast Lead worsened an already bad situation. Before the operation, it says Gazans had only half the water they needed according to international standards, and 80% of water supplied did not meet WHO drinking standards.
"--bbc.

I am not sure why Mubarak's stance is comment worthy as his government only exists because of massive US aid and support. It is unsurprising that Mubarak is toeing Israel's line against Hamas. There are no free elections in Egypt because the pro-US/Israeli Mubarak government would lose to parties that are more sympathetic to lifting the blockade for a start.

Update: as I suspected, besides Egypt's client state status to the US, the Egypt/Israel treaty forces Egypt to participate in the blockade...

"Hala Mustafa, editor of the state-funded Al-Ahram Quarterly Democracy Review, says Egypt's role in the blockade is based on its obligations under its peace agreement with Israel. "In this accord, Egypt has to watch its border and should not allow any third party to cross the border in order to attack Israel." As for blocked aid convoys, she says: "This aid has been used as ... a kind of propaganda to bring the attention of the other Arab communities and the international community against Egypt."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1953015,00.html#ixzz0pcknAcez

hey sbj, no snappy comeback? I am aware that Israel has destroyed the Gaza economy and is engaging in collective punishment by starving out the population in Gaza. Got any rebuttal to that?

Posted by: srw3 | June 1, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Cantor is typical of the hysterical Jewish lobby. Israel can kill 100 Palestinians for every Israeli injured or killed, and they can do it with impunity because we pay for the white phosphorus, planes, guns, bombs and bullets. Israel is a terrorist nation, the worst in the middle east. Were it not for the powerful Jewish lobby in the US, we would long ago have severed all relations with these terrorists.

Posted by: billaldridge | June 1, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Cantor, you slimy war monger. You can be Jewish but be fair. US can be a friend of the Jews but they still need to stand up for a fair solution to the occupation. Cantor, why do slimy characters like you create wars against innocent people. I guess you have sold your soul, your daughters & your wife to Aipac to stay in power. Shame on you you war monger. You must belong to the past generation who believed in bloodshed & wars & killing women & children. Minds like you are now creating a Muslim Holocaust. Has History not taught you anything?

If you have some brains think for a moment, there are evil people among Jews too like the Benjamin N. The government of Israel is sitting on Arab land, the Jews need to move the settlements and return the land to their rightful owner.

If Israel was a true & sincere friend of America then it will abide by sincere advise of its friends & the country that supplies it with weapons for waging wars. Do you realize that America has lost its credibility because of its blind support of Israel.

A bolt from above will surprise evil minded people like you & the Israeli leaders. Shame on you for asking President obama to support a wrong deed.

Posted by: shamahussain | June 1, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Nothing new here, just the usual leftwing Israel hatred:

If that tiny country would just admit it has no right to exist and stop trying to defend itself from the fanatical murderers who surround it, all our problems would be solved.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

America to Cantor: Shut your own trap for awhile and isn't it about time you retired you windbag.

Posted by: PennyWisetheClown | June 1, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Cantor to Obama: Stand up for Israel!

-------------------------------------------

Are you kidding? He won't even stand up for his own country.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | June 1, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

It should maybe give people pause to think when both a very conservative and a very liberal member of congress both say the same thing.

Some things that Cantor wrote SHOULD resonate with reasonable people:

1.) The flotilla was planned as a PR stunt to make Israel look like the devil. For an entire week, this thing has been playing out. Israel gave the flotilla the option to dock at an israeli port for inspection, which would have been the correct thing for the flotilla to do. But no, it did not.

2.) The IDF filmed the thing. The film speaks for itself. Those weren't your ordinary, peace-loving humanitarians on board. Apparently, they are well trained in hand weapons and one to one combat.

3.) What Cantor says about Hamas is true, absolutely true. I hate to have to agree with Cantor on anything, but this time he is factually correct. Hamas IS a terrorist organization that that caused great suffering to Israelis and the blockade is there for a reason. Please remember this.

All those who want to really help those palestinians should go live under Hamas rule for a while and then come back and tell me how much they liked it.

Posted by: bonncaruso | June 1, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

America to Obama: you can't serve two masters.

Posted by: politbureau | June 1, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Remember the USS Liberty!

Another unprovoked Israeli attack!

Ask the loved ones of those US Navy personnel murdered by Israel how they feel about this assault ... and on US Memorial Day for our fallen heros.

Posted by: Rommel3 | June 1, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

@qb:If that tiny country would just admit it has no right to exist and stop trying to defend itself from the fanatical murderers who surround it, all our problems would be solved.

Nothing new here, just another rightwingnut apologist for Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, destruction of the Gazan economy, and collective punishment of Gazans through starvation.

Move along...

Posted by: srw3 | June 1, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be nice if U.S. Law makers could practice a little strategic thinking. Cantor's soundoff is just another nail in the coffin of the idea of the U.S. as an "Honest powerbroker" in the middle east peace process.

Posted by: snake_taylor | June 1, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh sure, stand up for Israel without the facts which look increasingly bad for Israel. Israel basically attacked a ship in INTERNATIONAL WATERS! They had no right to do this. At some point Israel needs to take responsiblility for it's actions without requiring the US to rubber stamp their duplicity. Enough is enough! I'm as sick of Israel as I am of Republicans. Now if Weiner and Cantor are so concerned maybe they should relocate there and stop asking the President to act as irrational as they are. It's not going to happen. Which is why he's the President and THEY'RE NOT!

Posted by: roxsteady | June 1, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody else take notice that Eric Cantor who has critized this administration for not moving quickly on several decisions in past is now asking that this administration "discover" all of the facts before making a determination on Isreal's intent?

Odd how that works isn't it?

Posted by: justonevoice | June 1, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

This is also what happens when you take land by force that DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU! LOOK IT UP!

Posted by: roxsteady | June 1, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

@ bonncaruso:Hamas IS a terrorist organization that that caused great suffering to Israelis and the blockade is there for a reason. Please remember this.

Please remember that the blockade of food, medicine, and other essential items (like spare parts for generators and fuel to run them) is collective punishment which is a war crime.

Please remember that "The WHO says Operation Cast Lead worsened an already bad situation. Before the operation, it says Gazans had only half the water they needed according to international standards, and 80% of water supplied did not meet WHO drinking standards."

Its not hard to "make Israel look like the devil" when it does diabolical things like attacking civilian ships in international waters using military commandos from helicopters at night.

Posted by: srw3 | June 1, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

QB said: "Nothing new here, just the usual leftwing Israel hatred"

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hilarious.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

OT, this is great:

The Justice Department is investigating whether any criminal or civil laws were violated in the BP Plc oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the biggest U.S. spill on record, said Attorney General Eric Holder.

“We will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, anyone who has violated the law,” Holder said. “This disaster is nothing less than a tragedy.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ardT2CAsONgo&pos=8

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Republicans Jump Out To Historic Lead In Gallup Generic Ballot

Gallup's generic polling shows the number of voters saying that they would vote for Republicans rising three points from last week, while the number saying they will vote for Democrats dropped four points. The 49%-43% lead for the Republicans is the largest that the pollster has ever recorded for the party. Moreover, Democratic enthusiasm for voting this fall fell a point, while enthusiasm among Republicans stayed about fifteen points higher. This indicates an even wider lead for Republicans once Gallup imposes a likely voter screen this fall.

Posted by: FraudObama | June 1, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh sure, stand up for Israel without the facts which look increasingly bad for Israel. Israel basically attacked a ship in INTERNATIONAL WATERS! They had no right to do this. At some point Israel needs to take responsiblility for it's actions without requiring the US to rubber stamp their duplicity. Enough is enough! I'm as sick of Israel as I am of Republicans. Now if Weiner and Cantor are so concerned maybe they should relocate there and stop asking the President to act as irrational as they are. It's not going to happen. Which is why he's the President and THEY'RE NOT!

Posted by: roxsteady |

~~~

I couldn't have said it better and I agree totally.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 1, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Meet some of your ideological friends:

"This is also what happens when you take land by force that DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU! LOOK IT UP!"

"I am sick of my tax dollars being spent to help Israel kill people. The land where Israel is located was and still is the Palantine property. The treaty signed in the 1940 should never have allowed Israel the right to land where they are located."

"Were it not for the powerful Jewish lobby in the US, we would long ago have severed all relations with these terrorists."

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"“We will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, anyone who has violated the law,” Holder said."

. . . so long as they are on our enemies list and not part of this Administration.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"Meet some of your ideological friends"

Is that all you have? Hahaha what a joke.

Some of my ideological friends! HAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

QB, you blast the left for no reason whatsoever and then in the very next post you mock the rule of law.

Unreal. Your almost supernatural capacity for making a fool out of yourself is literally endless.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Cantor is nothing but a Zionist agent pretending to be a congressman. This is the same "amen corner" of Congress, or the Brothel as I like to call it, that has isolated US right alongside Israel! Cantor can pound sand as far as I'm concerned. No Mr. President, don't listen to this sniveling loser and TRAITOR to the USA.

I for one am TIRED of this terrorist state dragging us into wars and trouble. Israel needs to be treated like apartheid era South Africa!

Posted by: Desert_Fox | June 1, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

You aren't worth having a dialogue with, Ethan.

But the left as a rule hates Israel. That's not controversial. It's a fact, and this blog is proving it for the millionth time.

Your pal roxsteady hates Israel as much as he/she hates Republicans.

That's a lot of hatred.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

No, Ethan,

I criticize the fanatical Israel-phobic left because it needs criticism, and I mock the LIP SERVICE paid by the Obama admin to the rule of law.

You don't read well, think well, or argue well. And your attacks mean as much to me as the spider I stepped on yesterday.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Here we are, left looking like dorks again because our dog bit some kids face off and we're the only folks in the neighborhood who doesn't think it needs a collar....

The Zionist Regime in Israel is its own worst enemy, as are her fascist appeasers!

Posted by: BornAgainAmerican | June 1, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The Israeli government keeps squeezing tighter and tighter. It may feel good to them, but it doesn't move anyone towards peace. An embargo is an act of war. Boarding ships in international waters, flying other countries flags is an act of war. The boarding was not well thought out. The Israeli government seems to act, by using force, in ways that are against its own long-term interest.

What would the Isrealis do if they were locked in Gaza with no access to the outside world? Would they resort to violence? Would they commit terrorist acts? Would they detonate the biggest bomb they could get their hands on? Wake up and make peace before there is a mushroom cloud over the middle east.

Posted by: cyberfool | June 1, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Those who justly oppose Israel's human rights violations have a problem similar to those who rightly criticize the U.S. failure to enforce a reasonable immigration policy.

If we vocally oppose the current immigration policy for legitimate and intelligent reasons, our opposition gets hijacked and smothered by the racist hatemongers who use immigration as a cloke to cover their racist motives. Likewise, if we vocally oppose Israel based on legitimate public policy and human rights considerations, our opposition gets lumped together with that of the hateful antisemitic racists.

We need to get to a point in this country that we can debate serious considerations without the opposing side throwing the race bomb, and without the real racists hijacking our arguments. I am not optimistic, however, that it is going to happen anytime soon.

Posted by: MdLaw | June 1, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

"If we vocally oppose Israel based on legitimate public policy and human rights considerations, our opposition gets lumped together with that of the hateful antisemitic racists."

Unfortunately (for you), true. If this blog is the example, then legitimate public policy opposition is not on display, but there are plenty of hateful - if not antisemitic - comments.

Today has been a real eye-opener for me when it comes to some of The Plum Line's readers. It's been an unsettling, uncomfortable, and disappointing day to check in here.

Posted by: sbj3 | June 1, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Okay. We leftists as a rule hate Israel. Especially us Jewish leftists.

Haha. The brainpower on that one is just staggering.

I take your insults as compliments since today (ahem EVERY DAY) is opposite day with QB.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

@qb: But the left as a rule hates Israel. That's not controversial. It's a fact, and this blog is proving it for the millionth time.

Fine stereotyping.

One could just as easily say, "but the right as a rule loves Israel and forgives everything it does, even attacking an American ship, the USS Liberty. The right defends Israel's continued expansion into the occupied territories and has no problem with the apartheid state system the Israelis are setting up."

Painting every democrat in lock step as Israel haters (Dershowitz, Weiner, basically the entire Senate and House Dem caucus, etc not withstanding) is factually false and mendacious.

Are you saying that the Dems in Congress don't represent the left? Admitting that elected dems are for the most part middle of the road would be a first step on the long road to rationality for you, so I know you won't take it.

There are conservatives that think that the US is not hard enough on Israel, but they are few and far between. Democratic support for Israel is far stronger than republican opposition to Israel.

Get your facts straight.

Posted by: srw3 | June 1, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow this is crazy!

Both sides are out of line :

We can't defend all of Israel's moves. Frankly anyone who supports Israel as if it were their own country is just unamerican. Which country do we pledge allegiance to again?

Also we can't immediately condemn Israel either - there are a lot of details that are missing from what happened. Indeed, this may have been provoked in an attempt to undermine Israel on the global stage.

Whatever the case. Let's wait for the facts.

Posted by: glitch83 | June 1, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

It really doesn't bother me that cantor took this stance, what bothers me is the knee jerk reaction of my NYC/NYS jewish politicans(weiner,schumer,bloomberg etc), always assuming that Isreal is always right. Israel's supporters on this and other boards can ponitficate and blather all they want but they cannot get past the fact that israel boarded a ship in internationl waters which is a maritime crime.Also, their videotape notwithstanding, they brought the only weapons(guns)designed to harm people,knives are utensils for eating cutting carving etc. the other so-called weapons are tools usually used to do various jobs, the naivete(willful or not) of the american public is astounding and appalling.

Posted by: jestindam | June 1, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

All, Happy Hour roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/happy_hour_roundup_19.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | June 1, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

MDLaw, good post. I agree that "We need to get to a point in this country that we can debate serious considerations without the opposing side throwing the race bomb, and without the real racists hijacking our arguments."

As an ideological either/or, nothing is going to get settled. The peace process has to get going again and fundamentals need to get resolved or this is going to continue, and continue to escalate.

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 1, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what song Mr Cantor would have been singing if they had been Israeli citizens who were delivering aid to a country who were fired upon, attacked and killed by a Muslim nation? He would have asked for war and the strongest condemnation from every country and the UN.
This is why we don't have a leg to stand on when we treat the actions of one country one way and totally different for another country.
I am afraid that the argument of Israel being a democratic country is losing its legitimacy, when it is acting in every way other than a democratic country should. They must face the fact that the Bush democracy era has ended.

Posted by: donya_f | June 1, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

As disgusting as Cantor is, I actually agree with him here. This ridiculous flotilla was an incident waiting to happen, and don't think the flotilla members weren't aware of that fact.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | June 1, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely no important information is missing and therefore no real investigation is required to know what happened. The ship was in international waters and therefore the Israeli military had no right to touch it or take its passangers into custody no matter what the passengers may have done to them. Any force they may have used was in self defense as they had every right on earth to float in international waters - everyone does! Imagine if it was not Israel and Gaza for a moment and any other random ship was floating peacefully on the water and attached by a country that is not an ally - we sure would condemn that imediately! We are giving Israel a free pass to violate the law yet again.

Posted by: EAR0614 | June 1, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

BEING A PALESTINIAN, I AM VERY PROUD AND ENCOURAGED BY THE POSTS OF MY AMERICAN BROTHERS & SISTERS WHO ARE STANDING FOR JUSTICE! WE HAVE SUFFERED WORSE THAN ANYONE IN THE LAST CENTURY AND ITS TIME THE US AS ALWAYS FIGHTS FOR OUR JUSTICE!

Posted by: justcause2010 | June 1, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

srw,

"One could just as easily say" . . . but not as accurately.

"Painting every democrat in lock step as Israel haters (Dershowitz, Weiner, basically the entire Senate and House Dem caucus, etc not withstanding) is factually false and mendacious."

Yes, it might be, and of course I did nothing of the sort. I said "the left."

"Are you saying that the Dems in Congress don't represent the left?"

No, I don't recall saying that. In general, they do, though not uniformly.

"There are conservatives that think that the US is not hard enough on Israel, but they are few and far between. Democratic support for Israel is far stronger than republican opposition to Israel."

Which, however, in no way contradicts my point, that THE LEFT, as a rule, hates Israel.

"Get your facts straight."

My facts are straight. Your logic and reading aren't.


Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Ethan,

You're just plain a goof.

You are incapable of intellectual honesty, whether or not you aspire to it.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Ethan: "Okay. We leftists as a rule hate Israel. Especially us Jewish leftists."

Yes, Ethan, many of you Jewish leftists do hate Israel. That is correct.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 1, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

@ glitch83 : The facts are that civilian ships were attacked by military commandos in international waters at night and 10 civilians were killed and an indeterminate # of civilians were wounded.

Israel has a blockade keeping the civilians on the ships from talking to the international press. Why would that be?

We don't need to wait for any more facts....although they might add details. The gist of the incident is quite clear.

Posted by: srw3 | June 1, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"Which, however, in no way contradicts my point, that THE LEFT, as a rule, hates Israel."

What am I, QB?

I'm on the Left.

I don't hate Israel.

Your "RULE" fails!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The actions of Israel are clearly criminal violations of recognized international law.
They act in such a ruthless and aggressive manner ONLY because of the support of the United States.
The ENTIRE rest of the world rightfully considers our unconditional support as aiding and abetting such crimes.
Of course, a brief glance at the recent history of U.S. actions is damning enough anyway.
This is why we are under constant terrorist attack.

Any U.S. citizen, and especially any politician, such as Cantor, who puts the interests of Israel AHEAD of those of the U.S. should be stripped of citizenship and deported.

Posted by: TOMHERE | June 1, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

@qb: "Are you saying that the Dems in Congress don't represent the left?"...No, I don't recall saying that. In general, they do, though not uniformly...my point, that THE LEFT, as a rule, hates Israel.

If dems in general do represent the left, and Dems in congress overwhelmingly support Israel (you do agree, right?), then the left in general does not hate Israel.

So simple I thought that even you could understand it, but no...

Logic, give it a try...

Posted by: srw3 | June 1, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Ethan,

I guess you are incapable of understanding that the exception doesn't disprove a rule.

Of course, I haven't seen you deny the truth of what I called a rule. Perhaps you are just being a provocateur, as usual, with no real point to make.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Canor: become an American or move to Israel

Posted by: ssterno | June 1, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

srw,

Afraid to tell you that you would fail logic with that . . . logic.

But you are committed ideologue, so no point in debating you about it.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 1, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cantor, you are an idiot. This country has done nothing but stand up for Israel for as long as I can remember. I would love to know the amount of tax payer dollars that has supported Israel's existence since it was born. I personally want Israel to exist but not at the cost of the suffering of the Palestinians. We all need to live, no one is more important than the other. America must stand up and say that we will no longer support aparthied any where on this earth.

Posted by: fabricmaven1 | June 1, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"Perhaps you are just being a provocateur, as usual, with no real point to make."

Yup. Opposite Day!

Have a great rest of your day, QBFAIL!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 1, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm also tired of those who use the haha canned laugh after posting, just who do you think you're annoying other than yourself,you only show your incapablity to comprehend situations as well as your idiotic attempt to create a sense of superiority.

Posted by: jestindam | June 1, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

An illegal commando attack in the middle of the night--and people aren't supposed to resist? Israeli commandos would not have gotten beaten if they hadn't attacked in the first place. The Israeli propaganda machine is once again trying to portray Israel as the victim--even as it, once again, murders innocent civilians. The naval blockade is illegal, just as the siege of Gaza is illegal. The humanitarian activists were fired on from helocopters before the commandos boarded. They resisted only after they were attacked--this sounds like self-defense in any language. Israel has no right to Gaza, or to set up a blockade around Gaza. It violated international waters and law. If the US stands by Israel now, it will have sunk to a new low. Obama, and the Jews in Congress, had better decide who they work for and whose interests they should protect.

Posted by: donnasaggia | June 1, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Time for the US to revoke the citizenship of Fifth Columnists of the Israeli Reich.

Cantor would sell out the US for Israel in a heartbeat. Very few American Jews would, but those who would--and do so every day--run The Israel Lobby.

Iran needs nukes. Only fear motivates the Israeli Reich. Iranian nukes would put the fear of god in them. Maybe then they stop mimicking their National Socialist mentors.

Posted by: Garak | June 1, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Criticism from the right over Obama's foreign policies is inevitable since they will criticize him at every opportunity. But the more important point is simply making sure that the UN resolution is based on facts rather than unsupported emotions. At the very least, the fact that Israel was not able to deal with this situation without killing people is a major blot on Israel. Unless there is evidence that the Israeli's were dealing with armed opposition, their action certainly deserves some level of condemnation. It is hard to see how the US can do more than abstain to a balanced condemnation if the US wants to retain any shred of neutrality as a sponsor of the peace process.

Posted by: dnjake | June 1, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

What was the purpose of your referring to Rep. Eric Cantor as Jewish, Mr Sargent? Were you not so subtly questioning Cantor's patriotism or his objectivity. I happen to be a liberal Democrat, but on this issue, I wholeheartedly agree with Eric Cantor.

Posted by: hbass | June 1, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if they'd have said the same thing about MLKs freedom marches. They were intended to provoke a response too.

So clearly, by Cantor's and Weiner's logic, the water cannons, the dogs, and the batons were justified.

Posted by: wiscoman | June 1, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

And so the bidding war begins as to which party can go the furthest up the rear end of AIPAC in this crisis. It would be wonderful to have representative government in the United States of America, but that is probably an unattainable dream right now.

Posted by: johnsonc2 | June 1, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"The pressure from Cantor suggests that nothing short of a full-throated defense of Israel's actions on the part of the U.S. -- something that would do immense damage to ongoing diplomatic efforts -- will prevent criticism from the right."

Greg,

Absolutely nothing - period - will prevent criticism from the right. Whatever Obama does, or doesn't do, will merely channel the direction of that criticism.

Take the time to make a reasonable, even-handed conclusion and let the political chips fall where they may.

Bob

Posted by: bobreply | June 1, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

"Israel remains a critical strategic ally and the only democracy in the Middle East." - Eric Cantor

Wow, I can understand not including Afghanistan in the Middle East, but Iraq? I thought I just read about the results of an election over there. Maybe Israel will always be viewed as the only democracy in the Middle East to some people, even when it isn't.

Posted by: kenner116 | June 1, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

" Cantor to Obama: Stand up for Israel!".....good luck with that happening.....


Obama and the liberals are antiSemitic, anti-Israel and cloak it by being pro-arab and pro-palestinian.

Obama raised the expectations of islamists early on and continues to. Those unrealistic hopes, Israel gone, when dashed by reality will result in another mid-east war.

Thanks Obama.......

Posted by: georgedixon | June 1, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Eric Cantor is a low life jew intent in destroying America supporting a thug terrorist nation of jews. Why is this news?

Posted by: playa_brotha | June 1, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm extremely tired of the tit-for-tat approach of the whole middle-east... If you want peace make peace, if you want war then be prepared for total war.. Without total war in which the losers are clearly beaten, there can never be a chance for a lasting peace.

i.e. American Civil War, WWII
still creating problems, - North/South Korea

Posted by: cfields1 | June 1, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

You aren't worth having a dialogue with, Ethan.

But the left as a rule hates Israel. That's not controversial. It's a fact, and this blog is proving it for the millionth time.

Your pal roxsteady hates Israel as much as he/she hates Republicans.

That's a lot of hatred.

Posted by: quarterback1
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What nonsense; the left hates Israel. If it seems that many on the left criticize Israel it is only because some of Israel's policies violate America's fundamental sense of decency. America traditionally has supported the underdog. The underdogs in this story are the Palestinian people who have suffered incredible repression at the hands of the Israeli government.

The problem for Israel is that they have overstepped one to many times and maybe, just maybe, the US government will begin to rethink it's traditional policy of unconditional support for this government. Israel is fast becoming the 21st century equivalent of apartheid South Africa.

Just because the left condemned the apartheid South African regime didn't mean we hated South Africans or Afrikaners. It meant then and means now that we condemn injustice and repression. Why don't you?

Posted by: Observer001 | June 1, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious Israel wants to fully annex Gaza and run all the Palestinians out. The USA continues to supply Israel with billions in military aid, making her militarily unstoppable. The USA has also co-opted the governments of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi-Arabia by providing them with billions in covert military aid. It's in this environment that, in order to survive, Iran must develop a nuclear deterrent capability. Israel is a democracy in name only, and certainly not one for Palestinians and Arabs. Their lands, confiscated without recompense. Their children, labelled expendable, and massacred as "collateral damage" by IDF "security forces." Palestinians must realize this is a wholesale Gaza liquidation. Other Arab states in the region, many of them sadly corrupted and in betrayal of millions of fellow Arabs.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | June 1, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious Israel wants to fully annex Gaza and run all the Palestinians out. The USA continues to supply Israel with billions in military aid, making her militarily unstoppable. The USA has also co-opted the governments of Egypt, Jordan and Saudi-Arabia by providing them with billions in covert military aid. It's in this environment that, in order to survive, Iran must develop a nuclear deterrent capability. Israel is a democracy in name only, and certainly not one for Palestinians and Arabs. Their lands, confiscated without recompense. Their children, labelled expendable, and massacred as "collateral damage" by IDF "security forces." Palestinians must realize this is a wholesale Gaza liquidation. Other Arab states in the region, many of them sadly corrupted and in betrayal of millions of fellow Arabs.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | June 1, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

As a military veteran who is NOT Jewish I am normally in suport of Isreal however attacking ships in international waters is illegal no matter who does it, we as a nation can NOT condone this attack. Preemptive strikes are illegal just as we invaded Iraq illegally, Isreal was illegal in attacking these boats in the international waters, they should have waited until they attempted to pass the barricades or pass the blockade which has been in place for years then they would have some political coverage, this however can NOT be condoned by anyone regardless of the reason, either we all live by law or we become a lawless world, which would you have it? We can not back these attacks the Isreali forces attacked ships where they shouldn't have, Isreal does not have a "get out of jail free card" no matter what they do, Mr Cantor and other American politicians need to remember who they work for American voters or is it the Jewish Community?

Posted by: mikey30919 | June 1, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Long passed time to dump this apartheid regime; besides, it can take care of itself says all of these American jew traitors, and doesn't need to hear anything that we say. Screw Israel, cancerous sore.

Posted by: hared | June 1, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

At face value Obama is in a no win situation. If he stands up for Isreal,he will be branded an AIPAC supporter without a conscience. IF he supports the Palestinians, he will be branded an Islamist. Let the facts bear out what happened. At face value, shooting 9 supporters as you board via top rope from choppers instead of just blockading the ships seems pretty over zeolous.

Posted by: cadam72 | June 1, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

"Stand up for Israel" ? Seriously?

How about backing up to the late 1930's and counseling, "Stand up for Germany"!

Israel IS the New Nazi Germany!

Posted by: lufrank1 | June 1, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Cantor, you better wake up son. Read "The Manchurian President" by Aaron Kline. Everyone in Obama's life is anti-Israel. From Rashid Khalidi to Jeremiah Wright to Louis Farrakhan..

Posted by: wewintheylose | June 1, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Cantor should be forced to live on an indian reservation,then go to palastine/israel.Then he should be forced to decide were he wants to live and who he wants to represent.America is not a Jewish home land.If he wants to go live with his fellow bigots and racists in Israel he can go right now.And he can take any Jew who feels that they are more for Israel then the Americas,because im sick and tired of their ideology.I want it gone.

Posted by: gilliam | June 1, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Mister Cantor, first and foremost it's all about the interests of the United States of America. Mister Cantor I believe you're a member of the US House of Representatives and not the Knesset. Mister Cantor act like it!

Posted by: whocares666 | June 1, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Cantor is a small time state politician who has demonstrated, time and time again, that he has NO knowledge or interest in anything other than his OWN partisan political talking points.
He could give a dime about the United States of America. In fact, a dime would be TOO much for him to contribute.
Republicans, to a one, have let the whole rest of America know that they do NOT support a unified America over ANYTHING.
Republicans are so involved in their own domestic quest for power that they use every single thing, domestically and internationally for their own domestic polictical quest for power in the UNited States.
And WHY, do they want the ultimate power the UNited States represents? To get all our money. Period.

Posted by: cms1 | June 1, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

BEING A PALESTINIAN, I AM VERY PROUD AND ENCOURAGED BY THE POSTS OF MY AMERICAN BROTHERS & SISTERS WHO ARE STANDING FOR JUSTICE! WE HAVE SUFFERED WORSE THAN ANYONE IN THE LAST CENTURY AND ITS TIME THE US AS ALWAYS FIGHTS FOR OUR JUSTICE!

Posted by: justcause2010 | June 1, 2010 6:24 PM
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Worse than anyone?

Worse than over 1 million Armenians exterminated by Turks?

Worse than over 6 million Jews in the Death Camps?

Worse than nearly 8 million Congolese in Belgian Congo?

Worse than 70 million Chinese in the Cultural Revolution?

Most of your suffering is of your own making. If the Palestinians had negotiated honorably then there would be peace.

But a continual demand for the extermination of all Jews in
Israel won't get you much sympathy from me.

Posted by: krankyman | June 1, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

And these are the same Jack Abramoff Republicans who got the butts booted out of power for these same reasons, and now want us to put Israel first for them come November. Any politician yelling Israel first this election year, should be sent there to run for office.

Posted by: hared | June 1, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

screw the jews, they are the problem. Can't help but think Hitler had it right.

Posted by: ksobserver1 | June 1, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Cantor obviously has duel loyalties. That's why he was first out of the box to criticize. That's just what disloyal, partisan, right wing scum do.

Posted by: vztownes | June 1, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey trolls, if you're going to try to pretend to be antisemitic liberals, you've got to remember one thing.

Liberals can spell.

Posted by: wiscoman | June 1, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Israelis to Cantor: Stand up for the President of the United States. Piece of Crap!

Posted by: Julescator | June 1, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

The notion of dual loyalty has a long history, and in this country it is mostly a benign history.

However dual loyalty - premised upon a belief that the interests of two independent states to which one expresses loyalty are identical - can become problematic in application. Dual loyalty can grow especially troublesome when voters feel they are being short changed by a representative who is moonlighting or double dipping on behalf of another country.

In a time of crisis, it behooves all of us to act with restraint.

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | June 1, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we need to nuke jews before someone else does.

Posted by: ksobserver1 | June 1, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

3.) What Cantor says about Hamas is true, absolutely true. I hate to have to agree with Cantor on anything, but this time he is factually correct. Hamas IS a terrorist organization that that caused great suffering to Israelis and the blockade is there for a reason. Please remember this.

All those who want to really help those palestinians should go live under Hamas rule for a while and then come back and tell me how much they liked it.

Posted by: bonncaruso
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While it is true that the Hamas is considered a terrorist organization on the ground that it does not recognize Israel's right to exist as a nation and would do everything it can do to paint Israel as an aggressor.

Because Bush insist on a democracy in the Middle East with his pre-emptive strike in Iraq, but warned the Palestinians not to elect the Hamas which is equivalent of Canada telling us not to elect certain party. However it won an election in 2006 because the political leadership of the Fatah was considered a corrupt organization and we provided money to them to help "improve" their chance of winning which ultimately failed. After that was a split between the groups that resulted in the Hamas being in charge of Gaza while Fatah is in charge of the West Bank.

Hamas is doing all it can to keep the fight going in the name of politics despite the fact that it can not govern to offer a better life for its people and it is used to take the pressure off of them. The Fatah is guilty of it too.

On the same token Israel is also guilty of several things as well because of their war against terrorist organizations that has been going on for the last 50 years with no end in sight. Like the Hamas, Israel use the politics of emotion in order to show to its opponents as weak on security of the Israeli state.

Cantor just spoke out too soon to offer his defense without relevant facts from both sides. Despite Israel providing evidence of being attacked on the ship, it does so to paint its side as the nice guy and it is the same for the Palestinians. It is all purely propaganda in order to illicit emotion and people fall for it all the time.

I've talked to few Israelis who have dealt with Palestinians and they tell me that on a personal level they talk to and work with each other but they both have to deal with the politics of their respective organizations or governments that creates the problem.

Posted by: beeker25 | June 1, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

This is rich: Lotta lefties on here shouting (about Cantor) "America: love it or leave it!", because Cantor supports Israel. Where were they when the O was apologizing for America?

Posted by: chatard | June 1, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Stand up for America and it's national interests. America has no state nor territory nor possession named Israel.


Israel needs America but Israel is worthless to America beyond humantarian concerns. Israel is only a moral diplomatic, military and financial burden for America.

Stand against Israeli terrorism colonialism apartheid anti-Arab anti-Muslim bigotry ,the blockade and the occupation.

Stop sending any American arms and money to this wayward reckless parasite of a nation.

While only 2% of Americans are Jewish and only 2% are Muslim all we ever hear from is the pro Israel lobby Zionist political media moneyed extremists.

Posted by: blackmamba1 | June 1, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

BEING A PALESTINIAN, I AM VERY PROUD AND ENCOURAGED BY THE POSTS OF MY AMERICAN BROTHERS & SISTERS WHO ARE STANDING FOR JUSTICE! WE HAVE SUFFERED WORSE THAN ANYONE IN THE LAST CENTURY AND ITS TIME THE US AS ALWAYS FIGHTS FOR OUR JUSTICE!

Posted by: justcause2010 | June 1, 2010 6:24 PM
===========================================
Worse than anyone?

Worse than over 1 million Armenians exterminated by Turks?

Worse than over 6 million Jews in the Death Camps?

Worse than nearly 8 million Congolese in Belgian Congo?

Worse than 70 million Chinese in the Cultural Revolution?

Most of your suffering is of your own making. If the Palestinians had negotiated honorably then there would be peace.

But a continual demand for the extermination of all Jews in
Israel won't get you much sympathy from me.

Posted by: krankyman
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I am going to agree with your assessment.
They had the chance in 1948 to do so but failed.

Posted by: beeker25 | June 1, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

America to Cantor: The US is not a wholly owned subsidiary of Israel - yet.

Posted by: areyousaying | June 1, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

The oil spill is 'nothing' compared to the sea of hatred building around the USA for its inept and cowardly reaction by Hillary Clinton & co. for Israel's latest murderous episode. Obama is as unfit for the office he holds as were so many of his predecessors.

Posted by: renfieldc | June 1, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Actually a strong support for Israel coming from this Obama administration would go a long way to stop the flight of Jewish vote and donations from the Democratic party. I will not hold my breath towards that though...
I must admit though that I am surprised Obama has not criticized Israel harshly. This is the kind of attitude I'd expect from him but he must know that this is a Turkish cook up and will soon call the Turks up on this one. They trying to derail the talks in face of surprising gains in those....Turkey is angry Obama dismissed its efforts on the Iranian case and is trying to derail Obama's efforts as a form of payback. We'll see how long they'll be able to go around gloating about their irresponsible attitude. They may be thinking NATO will defend them anyway....Erdogan should know better than trying to get into a conflict with Israel just because he is part of NATO. It will not cut the mustard...

Posted by: huntyrella | June 1, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

America is partly to blame for facilitating Israel's lawbreaking, but it would be entirely wrong to blame American Jews, whose views on Israel tend not to be hardline.

The real culprit is the American evangelicals and crazy Baptists - the same people we can blame for Iraq and pretty much every other disaster of recent years.

They hate the idea of peace breaking out in the Middle East, because that would mean the world was moving away from the End Times of their absurd 'prophecies'.

So long as it's an escalating bloodbath, they feel they're happily on track for their AntiChrist, Messiah, seven-headed beast and all that other garbage they believe.

Dead Arabs and peace activists are stepping stones on the path to their "personal salvation".

Posted by: Bud0 | June 1, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

The best thing Obama could say right now is,
"The United States supports a broad investigation. An investigation that not only includes the actions of the Israeli Navy, but also the motives and actions of the pro-Palestinian protesters as well as any possible encouragement or support from the government of Turkey."

Posted by: JimZ1 | June 1, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Gaza is not part of Israel and is not under any legal control of Israel. Israel has no legal authority to stop any ships from sailing there.

The real provocation is Israel dropping commandos on the ships, not the ships sailing to Gaza. This was the provocation that caused the violence.

Posted by: maggots | June 1, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

ksobserver1,
Your statement about nuking Israel is as barbaric as what the radical islam extremists did on 9/11 in our country...

Posted by: Rhonda5 | June 1, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse


WHY, in the name of reason, should the US condone another horror by the savages of Israel?

Does the US stand for nothing except bailing out and supporting Israeli's continued perfidy?

The United States is ALL TOO responsible for the existence of the world detested state. If this country it to survive with any dignity or justice we should try to take back our grave error. Now.

Cantor asks for detestable lies. Jane Harmon is caught by the FBI trying to get two American Jews(AIPAC officials) out of their indictments for spying for Israel.
My GOd, what will it take to stop this?

Posted by: whistling | June 1, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

"Israel remains a critical strategic ally and the only democracy in the Middle East." - Eric Cantor

############################################

If Israel is a critical strategic ally, why don't I see any of their troops, ships, or aircraft fighting with us in places like Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, or Afghanistan?

To be an ally, you have to be able to actually help when the need is there.

Posted by: maggots | June 1, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Of course the boats were trying to create an incident. And Israel knew that and yet played right into the enemies' hands. Dumb dumb dumb. The damage done to Israel by their overreaction/bad operational plans will take months or years to overcome. So now the US has to . . . what? Defend stupidity?

Posted by: gjhinnova | June 1, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

The advise, of course, should be "President Obama, Stand up to Israel" and not "Stand up for Israel" simply because we've been standing up for Israel for too long already with nothing but heartaches and humiliation to show for. It's time for Obama to prove to us that there is really a United States of America and not just a a "State of America", a special administrative region of the State of Israel. What happened on the high seas is just plain morally indefensible and he should know it.

Posted by: KT11 | June 1, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

whistling,

Why don't you wait until the results of the invesigative reports are posted instead of jumping to conclusions about Israel? I believe the judicial system in our country is structured as such that you're innocent until proven guilty? What countries were you inferring to when you made a blanket statement about Isreal "being a world detested state"?

Posted by: Rhonda5 | June 1, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

The necons during President Bush's eight years , led the U. S. into War in Iraq , tax cuts for the rich , and financial bail outs of the Wall street financial corporations and big banks etc. As a result , the U. S. economy continues to be in the worst economic turmoil in recent history . The necons with the help of likes of Cantors , and right wing prime minister of Israel would get us into another armed conflict in the Middle East . The current prime minister has spent his life time opposing all Palestinian rights . He has no respect for the International Law and Agreements , particularly if that concerns Palestinians living in sub human jail like land strip of Gaza .

Posted by: dmfarooq | June 1, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

These thugs in the U.S. Congress and Senate have blood on their hands just like the terrorist state of Israel.

Posted by: kevin1231 | June 1, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

kevin1231,
Let's just say that you and I have alot of freedoms because of how we have defended our nation and continue to do so. Also, how we defend and protect other nations as well as Isreal. If you lived in a third world country, you may not even have the freedom to blog as you are now...

Posted by: Rhonda5 | June 1, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse


Obongo has now become a mealy-mouthed Shabbas UncleTom Goy Boy Toy!

YES MASSUH!

Posted by: RudeIsraeli | June 1, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse


The Israelis, and ALL TOO many American Jews,

think the US exists for the benefit of Israel. The columns today by zinionst writers (there are no other kind at WaPo) write as though it's a fact accomplished that Ameica will bail out the terrorist actions...on the West Bank, in Lebanon, the unbearable savagery of Gaza, and this thing.

Not to mention Wall Street where 67% of the wealth of the nation has flown in the last ten years. Leaving the middle class
broke.

It is far, far past time to disabuse them
of their complete rights to whatever the United States has.

It really is time to DISABUSE them of their

Posted by: whistling | June 1, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Why do people want us to support Israel as if they were part of the USA? Are they subject to USA laws and paying USA taxes? Israel is not America. Why all the rage? Obama is the President of the USA, not Israel. Its time to cut the cord.

Posted by: jryan758 | June 1, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse


Doesn't America deserve better than dual loyalists like Cantor in congress?

Why should we stand for anything less than complete loyalty to the United States of America?

Particularly since that loyalty always seems to slant to Israel when there's a problem.

In this primary/election season, something to think of. Given the Iraq war, the deregulation of Wall Street, 9/11, et. al.
hard eyed loyalty to America first

should be a minimum priority.

Posted by: whistling | June 1, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Just like our men in Viet Nam that were ORDERED to burn down a village, the commandos are the innocents in these actions that put them under attack by members of a sovereign ship in int'l water defending themselves within int'l norms. We should all call/write our congress to withhold the 6 billion in aid to Israel until the guilty that ordered this violation of int'l law are extradited to the Hague. A budget cut that is long overdue, Egypt too with their terrorists left to operate. The Jewish run media, the Christian fundamentalists (rapture), the Israeli lobby will try to spin it differently brainwashing some that Israel can do no wrong, but this is the age of the internet. Al Jazerra had video that can be seen up to the point that Israel jammed communications and of course shut out the int'l press from any coverage in Israel. Murdoch's NY Post had a caption in a news report showing a LOL weapons cache. There were kitchen knives, meat cleavers, scissors, fire axes & handles, the stuff found on every cargo ship in the world. The NYC police dept. uses tasers against attackers without guns, Israel has LRADs and them, yet violated the sovereignty of the sea and then applied lethal force where none was needed. Of course Israel first, America second Rep. Cantor/Sen. Lieberman condemned the U.N. Take your argument excusing atrocities because of atrocities elsewhere, both sides are wrong and are taught hatred from birth. Israel broke not only int'l law but their own, not getting consent of the full cabinet. The now open border between Egypt and Gaza no doubt will have the large terrorist movement in Egypt steaming across into Gaza. Canada has never had a problem between it's Jewish population and the 100,000 undocumented mid-easterners, I hope that does not change but I am very wary. We may need to seal our northern border if that becomes a problem. Between the Fed. Reserve Rothchilds types only caring for Goldman Sachs, an invasion of Iraq from the zionist neocons Dubya had like Feith, the starvation of children in Gaza, support here for Israel is waning regardless of media control and Christian fundamentalists wanting rapture. The only thing they currently have going for them is fake Islam's terrorists are hated by everyone. The Quran equates Jews with pigs creating hatred worldwide by Islam. Islamic countries purge other religions even committing genocide like Hindus in Pakistan. You don't excuse atrocities because of atrocities. Read quickly my friends, the media has erased this post from 3 sites already.

Posted by: jameschirico | June 1, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

whistling,
I am not of the jewish descent and I am a middle class American married woman. The impression that I have gotten by what your last blog stated is that anyone who supports Isreal is either Jewish, wealthy, or from Israel.

I strongly support Isreal and I believe the U.S. should continue to as well. What exactly do you mean when you stated to "disabuse" Israel?

Posted by: Rhonda5 | June 1, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me! I'm a Jewish Repubican. There are a lot of Jewish Repubicans - and guess what? Now that Obama has shown himself to be a Jew-hater, I have a feeling there are going to be more and more Jewish Republicans.

Posted by: georges2 | June 1, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Cantor has been working for Israel and not the citizens Virginia he only uses them to get re elected. Cantor fought against the Health Care Plan only to see millions suffering from the oil leak now are getting medical help. Cantor's wife get Bank bailout money and continues to get the big bonus money. Cantor took a little time out from working for Israel to go to the Britney Spears Concert for a quick. If the citizens vote Cantor in office again he will continue to vote for money for Israel and push for the US to pre emptively bomb Iran and Russia. Let's hope the American people wake up. Now Obama knows what game Israel and Cantor are playing and wont fall for it. Remember McCain/Palin promised to bomb Iran/Russia if they got in office.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | June 1, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm pro-Israel but anti-Likud. The swine Netanyahu with his bully tactics is digging Israel into a very dangerous hole.

Even if the humanitarian flotilla was a trap to create a scandal, the idiot fell for it, teeth first, further alienating NATO-member Turkey, earning Europe's contempt, propping up Hamas against Abbas, getting Egypt to open Gaza's borders, potentially derailing sanctions against Iran... the ramifications of this incident are disastrous for Israel, not for alleged terrorists. Bibi is an idiot.

Labor needs to go back to its roots, boout out Ehud Olmert, break their unholy alliance with Likud, and join forces with Kadima to prevent Israel from becoming an international pariah.

Posted by: alarico | June 1, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm pro-Israel but anti-Likud. The swine Netanyahu with his bully tactics is digging Israel into a very dangerous hole.

Even if the humanitarian flotilla was a trap to create a scandal, the idiot fell for it, teeth first, further alienating NATO-member Turkey, earning Europe's contempt, propping up Hamas against Abbas, getting Egypt to open Gaza's borders, potentially derailing sanctions against Iran... the ramifications of this incident are disastrous for Israel, not for alleged terrorists. Bibi is an idiot.

Labor needs to go back to its roots, boout out Ehud Olmert, break their unholy alliance with Likud, and join forces with Kadima to prevent Israel from becoming an international pariah.

Posted by: alarico | June 1, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

sorry for the error above, i meant boot out Ehud Barak-- it's late and I'm tired.

Posted by: alarico | June 1, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse


So Cantor thinks there are still enough
big money Jews or AIPAC types so that

he can try to blackmail Obama in the news media (the almost totally jewish owned news media?)

Are the Madoffs and Blankfeins of New York still leading the pass the hat efforts everytime Israel pulls some perfidy. How the WH phones ring with threats of the nasty traitors.

And in the world, America's opinion has far less clout, primarily because we have supported Israel. The cost has in the last ten years, disasterous.

Posted by: whistling | June 1, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

If the flotilla tried to provoke Israel, it did so in a peaceful way, like Gandhi in India and Martin Luther King, Jr. in Alabama.

How historically uninformed is Cantor to defend Israel's actions to Obama on that basis!

Posted by: Instructor5 | June 2, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

So we should condone terrorism and illicit nuclear weapons on one side while condemning the same things on the other? How is this in any way fair? If that's what you think then it should be no stretch for you to also support Israeli "settlements" on Palestinian land. It's this might makes right attitude that makes it so easy for Al Qaeda to attract new recruits. It is my sincere hope that freedom loving countries will send a huge flotilla of ships to break the Israel's illegal blockade of Gaza. The world has had about enough of Israeli hooliganism.

Posted by: tm13 | June 2, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

BTW: Could you please offer some support for your assertion that: "Israel remains a critical strategic ally". What has Israel ever done for the U.S.? They complicate our foreign policy, gobble up our tax dollars and constantly spy on us. With allies like that we certainly don't need any enemies.

Posted by: tm13 | June 2, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

BEING A PALESTINIAN, I AM VERY PROUD AND ENCOURAGED BY THE POSTS OF MY AMERICAN BROTHERS & SISTERS WHO ARE STANDING FOR JUSTICE! WE HAVE SUFFERED WORSE THAN ANYONE IN THE LAST CENTURY AND ITS TIME THE US AS ALWAYS FIGHTS FOR OUR JUSTICE
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How about 900,000 people who were killed by muslims in Rowanda? How about the 10's of 1,000's in individuals who were killed in Sudan?

Posted by: Rhonda5 | June 2, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

But you are committed ideologue, so no point in debating you about it.

shorter QB "run away, run away...."

Posted by: srw3 | June 2, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

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