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Happy Hour Roundup: "Furious"

* Sorry Mr. President, your latest display of anger about the Gulf spill, in a new interview with Larry King, just won't cut it:

"I am furious at this entire situation," he said. "Somebody didn't think through the consequences of their actions and it is imperiling not just a handful of people. This is imperiling an entire way of life and an entire region for potentially years."

Has BP felt his anger?

"They have felt the anger," he said.

Nope, it's not good enough for you to say you're furious, Mr. President. Kick something. Smash a camera with your bare hands. Vulcan Death Grip rhetoric just won't do.

* And this line from Obama, in the same interview, is really problematic:

"This isn't about me and how angry I am. It's about the people down in the Gulf and how they were impacted."

Actually, it is all about how angry you are, Mr. President. Haven't you figured that out yet?

* Steve Benen argues, rightly I think, that Obama's speech yesterday contrasting Dem and GOP visions of government was far more significant than the media has allowed.

* Sam Stein says the real question we need to be asking about the Joe Sestak and Andrew Romanoff tales is whether the White House should be trying to deprive Dem primary voters of a choice.

* And: It turns out the Nixon administration also used job offers to wire primaries, though I'm not sure that's a great defense for the Obama crew.

* Great catch by Eric Kleefeld: The unfettered power of private property bites Rand Paul in the butt as the rock band Rush tells him to cease and desist using their music.

* Uh oh, let's hope The New York Times knows what it's getting into with the hiring of Nate Silver: He says he reserves the right to "think through problems and not wind up exactly down the middle."

* Timothy Noah has been out front doing a lot of valuable digging into GOP uber-donor Fred Malek's history of purging Jews.

* And it was interesting to see Jake Tapper press Robert Gibbs today on whether the death of an American citizen in the Israeli flotilla raid should make the U.S. more outraged with Israel.

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  |  June 3, 2010; 6:57 PM ET
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Comments

Can we assume you are mocking MoDo in the first item, Greg?

Posted by: mercerreader | June 3, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I'm hurt. I had the Rush story first thing this am. You should check us out every once in a while.

Posted by: PaddyTPC | June 3, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Greg: I want to thank you again for running the best political blog around. You do a very difficult job very well.

Anywho:

"What else is happening?"

Why does Mary Matalin get to clog the airwaves incessantly yet NEVER get asked a question about her boss Dick Cheney and his secret meetings with Big Oil? That surely seems relevant to why she's on TV in the first place.

Posted by: wbgonne | June 3, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

* And it was interesting to see Jake Tapper press Robert Gibbs today on whether the death of an American citizen in the Israeli flotilla raid should make the U.S. more outraged with Israel.

What else is happening?

....................

Greg,

The Irish Ship, now heading for Gaza, is named after a young American Woman who was killed by a Israeli Bulldozer running her over, and there was no outrage from the White House back then either.

Rachel Corrie crushed to death with a bulldozer in Gaza in 2003

http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

Posted by: Liam-still | June 3, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

@Greg: "Obama's speech yesterday contrasting Dem and GOP visions of government was far more significant than the media has allowed."

What is so significant about Obama rehashing one of his campaign themes from 2008?

Posted by: sbj3 | June 3, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Paddy: Apologies. Send links as often as you want. I'm under water at all times.

And tx wbgonne.

and yes, safe assumption mercerreader :)

Posted by: Greg Sargent | June 3, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

SBJ and Toon Town Lawyer are suffering from chronic Explosive Question Marks Diarrhea.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 3, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Slave Sargent:
"Nope, it's not good enough for you to say you're furious, Mr. President. Kick something. Smash a camera with your bare hands. Vulcan Death Grip rhetoric just won't do."

What is this? You want the Alleged Hawaiian to perform for you like he was in a negro minstrel show or something?

"Do the 'Angry Bojangles' dance again!"

Get off it, Meme-master. He doesn't want to blow his "cool"...because it's the only thing he's GOT.

What else is happening?

CBO Director Elmendorf just took a factual "pimp-stick" to Socialist Utopia ObamaCare and the mendacious lies that the GReid/Piglosi cabal told the American people about it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/cbo-director-elmendorf-destroys-a-core-presidential-health-care-argument-2010-6

Posted by: Bilgeman | June 3, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

"Sam Stein says the real question we need to be asking about the Joe Sestak and Andrew Romanoff tales is whether the White House should be trying to deprive Dem primary voters of a choice."

Of course they should.

Moonbats are manifestly incapable of making any kind of intelligent,(or even rational), decisions.

The government's "slow-belling" of Guv'nah Jindal's excellent sand berm dredging plan response to the Macondo well blowout...on the basis of awaiting an environmental impact study leap to mind.

Ergo, the choices must be made FOR them by SOMEBODY, right?

Who your masters choose for you cattle to vote for is no business of you livestock.

All you are required to do is show up and vote for who you are told as often as you are told to.

And remember, your veterinary care is now in the hands of the White House.

I trust that we will not need to have this discussion again...

Posted by: Bilgeman | June 3, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

There is an arranged marriage, that has always been dysfunctional, and often turned violent, over the course of more than four decades.

Each one of the pair, brought their own property into the marriage. There are no children, so divorcing should not be too difficult to arrange.

Let each one keep the property they brought into the arranged marriage, and then go live apart from each other, on their separate holdings.

A Divorce Judge would be the best, and most expedious way to disolve this bad marriage, and settle all property claims.

For some strange reason, one party in the marriage wants to keep a large chunk of the property that legally belongs to the other party in the bad marriage.

The damn divorce proceedings has been dragging on for ever, while the two sides, argue, squabble, commit assaults on each other, and often refuse to even speak to each other for years at a time.

Clearly they will never work this out between theirselves.

It has to be taken out of their hands, and an impartial divorce judge must decide who gets to keep what, and grant a final divorce decreed now.

The judge should also issue restraining orders, on both sides, to stay away from each other for at least the next fifty years.

Lads and Lassies, do you get my drift?

Posted by: Liam-still | June 3, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Yo BP BilgeSlave:

I hear "the tides" are going to wash all the oil out of the marshes tonight. Get over there and check it out. Either that or the God of Morons is going to show up and take of it for you. Either way, bring your camera.

Posted by: wbgonne | June 3, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

The Pickup Truck Harbinger of Economic Recovery.

Some more strong signs that President Obama is well on the way to restoring a strong economy, so that many Joe The Plumber type morons can vote in Republicans to destroy the economy once more, like they have always done in the past.


"Pickup Truck Indicator' Says Economy Improving
by CNBC Staff"

"It's no secret that the major auto companies knocked it out of the park with their May sales. But dig a little deeper into the numbers, and you can find some even better signs of strength for certain areas of the economy.


The auto companies don't break down their results beyond the total sales numbers. They combine fleet sales along with retail sales, so it's hard to get a read on how the US is really doing.


But AutoNation, the country's largest vehicle sales company, is now giving us some insight. Starting today, AutoNation will begin releasing its own monthly sales figures, and will provide more detail than the big auto companies.

For May, AutoNation's sales were up 22 percent, matching what we saw from some of the big automakers, including Ford (NYSE: F - News), General Motors and Toyota (NYSE: TM - News). But get this: Pickup truck sales were up 50 percent year-over-year. That's a huge sign of strength for American small businesses, according to AutoNation Chairman and CEO Mike Jackson.

"Pickup trucks are bought by small business entrepreneurs who have their finger on the pulse of the US economy," Jackson told us this morning on Squawk Box. "It's an expression of confidence in future of economy. They don't buy until they see the prospects for business are brighter."

And these sales are the real deal: It's worth noting that there's no impact from government stimulus "Cash-for-Clunkers" money.

Plus, it's not just small business demand that is surging. Some of the hardest hit areas of the country are also seeing outsized gains in sales. Auto sales in Florida, for instance, jumped 38 percent, while those is California climbed 24 percent.

These numbers offer some important clues as to where the economy is heading. Last year, U.S. auto sales totaled 10 million. AutoNation makes up a decent sized chunk of that. Last year it sold 325,000 new autos."

Posted by: Liam-still | June 3, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I have to say the Republican's are good...

What the Republican's have successfully done is changed the conversation from the oil in the gulf and drill baby drill to Obama offering jobs to applicants and America's relationship with Israel. They know their stock goes down as long as the story stays on the gulf so what do they do, change it any way they can...

I have to admit that the press follows the GOP and is afraid to not make news out of their latest rants or risk Fox calling them out. What is wrong with the term "mainstream media" compared to the non-mainstream which manufactures news and admittedly favors one party?

All of this because the energy bill was making traction in the polls and because Obama called them out.

Posted by: soapm | June 3, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

soapm:

Good points. But don;t get discouraged. This disaster will be a pivot point for the Obama Administration AND for the country. Just keep speaking out and calling the GOP on its propaganda. They really have become evil. Diabolical, really. Incredible but true.

For instance, I have noticed what you have: the GOP does NOT want to talk about the Gulf Oil Disaster and is desperately trying to Whitewater Obama with this patronage nonsense (I'm shocked, shocked, to find political parties engaging in politics). They can run but they can't hide. The country is waking up to the GOP's reckless greed. With any luck, Deadeye Dick Cheney will wind up in the Big House, just as a lagniappe.

Posted by: wbgonne | June 3, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't Obama have picked up Larry King and shook him to demonstrate his anger?

Probably wouldn't work.

Maureen Dowd the next day: "Obama is going to have to lift and shake a much larger man than Larry King to demonstrate his commitment to the gulf crisis. King goes maybe a buck ten. How about Oprah, or Charles Barkley, or the entire band Gnarls Barkley?

My father, methinks I see my father...."

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 3, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Soul-less Federal slave Liam offers:

""Pickup trucks are bought by small business entrepreneurs who have their finger on the pulse of the US economy," Jackson told us this morning on Squawk Box. "It's an expression of confidence in future of economy. They don't buy until they see the prospects for business are brighter."

Only an eco-moonbat with a mind as defective as Liam's would tout the sale of gas-guzzling, carbon-emitting pickup trucks as good news, while from the other side of his pie-hole, he demands immediate cessation of ALL offshore oil extraction until the Feds assure him that the EPA SWAT team will not be required to remove tar-balls from his commune's hot tub.

All of those pick-up trucks you're mindlessly "huzzahing" over are going to be for sale on the REAL cheap next year when gasoline is pushing 10 bucks a gallon, slave-bat.

Posted by: Bilgeman | June 3, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

BGinCHI:

What I find remarkable is the tonal change in CNN's coverage beginning today. It's almost as if CNN was punishing Obama until he did a network interview.

And as I mentioned earlier, why in the world does Mary Matalin get to prance around like Miss Louisiana with NOBODY asking her about Cheney and Big Oil or why she was MIA until last month in her concerns for the LA coast?

Posted by: wbgonne | June 3, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Poor old Birther Bilgey,

Being off his meds for so long has taken a toll on him.

Now, even when I post a report from CNBC on pickup truck sales, he still responds as if I wrote that report.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 3, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I understand WaPo and NYT are direct competitors in certain markets but I've never seen Greg go after another left leaning blogger before.

I read both blogs, probably this one more often and first, but I'll be hitting his more frequently when I want to understand the myriad of polling coming out and cut through all the pundit bull crap.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | June 3, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

wbgonne, agreed, CNN is now run by teenagers who have extra strong pout muscles. They're a pathetic bunch. But what do you expect when your intellectual anchor is Anderson Cooper?

Mike, I like Nate Silver too. Good solid numbers guy. Good move by NYT. WaPo will probably counter with either Rasmussen or Brent Bosell. (sorry Greg)

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 3, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey Bilge, you're right. The tide just pulled all that oil right back out to sea!

You're an f'in genius!!!!111!!!one!!!11!!!

Posted by: mikefromArlington | June 3, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey bilge, regretting those two SUV's yet? And oil is going up eventually, might as well get it over with, people get pretty creative when they can't afford the gas to power their toys. Let's not take our eyes off the BP ball, they're the ones WITHOUT a clean up plan in a worst case scenario. Nobody here is buying that deflection BS.

I say cap it, tax it, regulate it, cut the tax breaks and anything else to get all of us to wake the hell up. Don't worry, there'll always be oil until it runs dry and I'm sure you'll still have your almost six figure job for six months of work. The rest of us will suffer through the transition. I'm game.

Posted by: lmsinca | June 3, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

MSNBC Poll:

http://world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigration

Posted by: actuator | June 3, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Actuator, 40% of those polled no doubt think Palin is qualified to be POTUS so you can knock off 40% of the irrational and what's left at that point?

Another topic.

Anyone notice how when Iranian Green movement protesters came armed to confront the Basiij, the right cheered on the protesters, but when the activists arm themselves to prepare for the onslaught by Israeli commandos, they deserve what they got?

Funny how their brains work.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | June 3, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Here's some promising news from OpenLeft

"Since April 14th, Republicans have slid backwards in the general election polling averages in 10 of the 12 states that have featured both competitive primaries and competitive general elections. The average general election loss for Republicans has been significant: 3.7% on the mean, and 4.9% on the median."

http://www.openleft.com/diary/18955/senate-forecast-update-democrats-making-big-gains-during-primary-season

Posted by: mikefromArlington | June 3, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Did you guys see the photos up at HuffPo of the birds drenched in oil. They're from raw video earlier today from CBS. I didn't link it because it was so disgusting, but these pics will really get people riled up, that's what happened here in 1969.

Posted by: lmsinca | June 3, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

BTW, regarding my 10:01 post, those are the pictures BP was trying not to let out there. I think it may be adios Tony "it's a big ocean", "I want my life back" Hayward.

Posted by: lmsinca | June 3, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I just scanned about 100 of the pics.

Can't remember where I saw this first, but here is a feed to all the underwater camera's.

http://climate.the-environmentalist.org/2010/06/live-video-feeds-of-gulf-oil-disaster.html

Posted by: mikefromArlington | June 3, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

MFA, the poll wasn't about Pailin, it was about the Arizona Immigration law. Quit trying to obfuscate. Most people want the federal law enforced. It's a shame the feds under the last 4 or 5 presidents didn't seem to be interested.

Posted by: actuator | June 3, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Maybe because the last Presidents party hates illegals and wasn't interested in anything less than deportation of all illegals.

Just wait till Hispanics go 90% 10% for Democrats. At that point the Rand Pauls of the world will take up arms.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | June 3, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't going after Nate, just making fun of the idea that The Times would find itself in a pickle when it becomes clear that Nate is going to take a stand and not be "even handed" and "down the middle." make sense?

Posted by: Greg Sargent | June 3, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I believe ya but 50% of this country already thinks the NYT is in the tank for Obama and that's who the NYT would be defending against claims of bias.

If you haven't noticed, Murdoch is using his global network of media outlets to discredit every single other media outlet. I don't know if its purely for profit and he is using the right wing to further enrich himself or what. If news and media agencies knew what was good for them, they would focus all their ammunition at discrediting everything Murdoch's outlets push on people.

Our news is being diluted by right wing lies and propaganda. Nate Silver might have a liberal leaning slant but he doesn't repeat easily disprovable propaganda as does the right wing and its media outlets. I think it would be a shame to try and muddy up NYT's roll out of Nate and give people the impression his results have a liberal slant. The interpretation of his results are supported by numbers.

But hey, if Politico finds it necessary to try and discredit Nate and NYT as providing slanted commentary, maybe they should back it up with examples of how Nate interpreted the analysis of his calculations incorrectly and ask Nate to explain his analysis.

I always thought it was standard practice that if you're going after someone like Nate, you (meaning Politico) would ask for comment or response to the charges.

Anyways, I'm tired and rambling. Take it easy.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | June 3, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I usually tolerate Ben Smith from Politico but this is pretty funny:

(Ben)Smith wrote: "Silver, like the Post's bloggers, is one of a new group of journalists who aim to replace the studied neutrality old MSM types like me practice with an openness about their political views."

Now Ben might practice neutrality, but in no way should he compare himself to old MSM types!

Posted by: Andy94 | June 3, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, Andy, Ben Smith can stick his "studied neutrality" up his assss.

The reason Fox has come to dominate much of the news is that lazy reporters have hidden behind this nonsense notion of "objectivity." You can present what you offer as factual, and be as clear as you can about context and content, but you can't MAKE it factual by claiming objectivity.

Welcome to Politico, where we have it both ways without consequences!

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 4, 2010 1:07 AM | Report abuse

I actually thought that was a bit of self mockery on Ben's part...

Posted by: sargegreg | June 4, 2010 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Fox is succcessful because the old networks and media have been liberal and in the tank for Democrats for fifty years.

Just that simple, and not subject to any reasonable debate.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 4, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

"Just wait till Hispanics go 90% 10% for Democrats."

We'll see whether that is enough to offset the Democrats' massive losses among other groups . . . whether being the party of lawslessness and surrender of US sovereignty for partisan political gain is a good strategy.

Go ahead, be the party of illegal immigration. You already are and are stuck with it. Polls show it is a big loser for you, but you are led by a Messiah.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 4, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse

At least the Plumers are on the same page as Pat Buchanan.

http://townhall.com/columnists/PatBuchanan/2010/06/04/lift_the_siege_of_gaza?page=full&comments=true

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 4, 2010 6:51 AM | Report abuse

soapm said:
"I have to say the Republican's are good..."

Yes, they are. Hollywood is debauched, un-American and a moral pig-sty, and now let us present Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger as exemplars of rectitude and true-blue patriotic leadership.

What makes them "good" is their ferocious appetite for dominance, expertise at marketing, the economic and media resources that their corporate clients provide, and in the present period, a pretty thorough lack of any sense of communitarian membership and responsibility. It is only a banana-republic level of utter cynicism that would place a Sarah Palin before us, that would move at every step to obstruct and stymie effective governance, and that would work so assiduously at mis-informing the nation's citizens.

Posted by: bernielatham | June 4, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Bernie is playing fast and loose with facts and logic, yet again.

Admiration of two former movie stars of course would in no way be inconsistent with critiquing "Hollywood" as a whole.

But Ronald Reagan had been out of movies for decades and in no way could be identified with contemporary Hollywood, and Arnold is not exactly popular among conservative Republicans.

The rest of that substanceless rhetoric . . . yawn.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 4, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

May jobs numbers due out in less then an hour and it's always fun to listen to the pre-announcement spin.

With estimates ranging from +200k to +700k jobs, the negative spin is a little hard to take.

Posted by: Andy94 | June 4, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Hamas and the Palestinians now have 6 millions Jews packed into a ghetto. That's got to be claustrophobic. No wonder the zest to make more of that delicious lebensraum.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/03/AR2010060304287.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Posted by: bernielatham | June 4, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

All, morning roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/the_morning_plum_24.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | June 4, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

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