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Sharron Angle suggested we should privatize Dept of Veterans Affairs

Here's yet another data point for those looking to paint Sharron Angle as a female, right-wing Rand Paul: In a recent interview Angle suggested we should privatize the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The key exchange comes halfway through this interview Angle gave to an NPR affiliate in Nevada on May 19th. In it, Angle discusses the plight of her father as follows:

ANGLE: He's 87 years old and has Parkinson's and we have to pay more and more for his healthcare. I know he pays over 800 dollars a month in prescription drugs that we can't get through his VA nor through Medicare -- they just wont cover those things. And I know lots of seniors --

BECKER: Should they cover those things?

ANGLE: No, not if you're working towards a privatized system. And he can pay for them. That's my whole point. Even with the system we've got, it's broken, its not covering for every cost that he has. And if he were dependent upon that, he wouldn't be getting the healthcare he needs and that's why we need to fix the system.

It isn't entirely clear what Angle's overarching policy prescription is here. She says it's proper that the VA isn't covering her father's prescription drugs "if" we "are working towards a privatized system." It's hard to read that as anything but an endorsement of the idea.

Indeed, it's even more reasonable to read her comments that way when you consider her positions on Medicare and Social Security. Harry Reid's campaign has a new ad up attacking Angle for saying at a debate: "We need to phase Medicare and Social Security out."

Angle has dismissed Reid's attack by claiming she wants the government to keep its contract with those who "entered into the system on good faith." But she also says she favors developing "free market alternatives," and her Web site says Social Security is going to be "transitioned out."

So it's fair to ask whether Angle wants to see Veterans Affairs "transitioned out," too. Expect Dems to jump on this one.

UPDATE, 3:50 p.m.: The agency is currently called the Department of Veterans Affairs; it was previously known as the Veterans Administration. Though the terms are often used interchangeably, with VA standing for both, I've corrected the above to reflect this.

By Greg Sargent  |  June 14, 2010; 3:26 PM ET
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Who knows what she is calling for but I would interpret it as a call for means testing.

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Um, I read that three times and I have NO idea what she's talking about.

It seems contradictory.

The chicken lady was more straightforward.

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Literally ludicrous.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 14, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"Even with the system we've got, it's broken, its not covering for every cost that he has."

HAHAHAHA! A private system would not cover every cost he has, either. Good lord.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | June 14, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Would the closing of the donut hole be fixing Ms. Angle's fathers prescription medication problem via medicare? Because if so, that would be a pretty colossal campaign win for Reid...

Posted by: holyhandgrenaid | June 14, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Sharron Obtuse Angle has previously called for the elimination of Social Security and Medicare.

Me thinks that The TeaBaggers have nominated A Granny Killer!!!!

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

It's incomprehensible or incoherent or both, likely both. Confused minds produce confused sentences. There appears to be a new language abroad in the land which could well be termed Palinese.

Posted by: bernielatham | June 14, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

'Angle has dismissed Reid's attack by claiming she wants the government to keep its contract with those who "entered into the system on good faith."'

Translation: "I *do* want to phase out Social Security, but not for current retirees, so don't vote against me, seniors!"

In other words, she's in favor of "you're on your own/the market will solve everything" except when it's politically expedient not to be.

Posted by: jimeh | June 14, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

BP does not want to be called "British Petroleum". That was their old name, and they say they are now known as BP, but those two letters must stand for something, unless they are being uttered by The Roadrunner.

I would like to help out the company, by coming up with some suggestions to be submitted to them, as to what BP should now stand for;

Here are a few, that came to mind, and please contribute some more.

BP. Broken Pipes

BP. Bloody Pri*ks.

BP. Broken Promises.

BP. Big Polluters.

BP. Bought Politicians.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Greg you found the smoking gun! Nice job. Only three weeks after Nevada Public Radio found it!

Posted by: Truthteller12 | June 14, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

@truthteller: "Greg you found the smoking gun...Only three weeks after Nevada Public Radio found it!"

Methinks that Greg's plan is to roll these things out slowly over the course of a couple months...

I'm wondering, Greg - after all the help you gave Reid with Lowden - are you on the Reid campaign payroll or something?

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I have really enjoyed the above batch of comments. Thanks, all.

Posted by: wbgonne | June 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I noted yesterday that Sharron Angle is now in Washington huddling with all those establishment Washington Republicans that Tea Party people can't abide. Christina Bellatoni has a good piece on what's going on... http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/operation-fix-the-campaign-how-national-parties-help-unlikely-winners.php?ref=fpb

Posted by: bernielatham | June 14, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Truthteller12, must be a TeaBagger, because like his heroine, Grizzly Palin, he believes that Truth has an expiration date on it.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

No sbj, Greg just wants to keep idiots out of the Senate. Check that, super-idiots. I know, it's a low bar....

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

An Old Irish Adage(Which I Just Now Made Up)

When ever someone calls their self; "Truth Teller", you can be sure that the first words they utter, will be a pack of lies.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

One of our engineers here at work that deals with BP on a regular basis came up with this one a couple years back:


BP

Blatant Propaganda

Posted by: suekzoo1 | June 14, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, keeping super-idiots out of the Senate. I think that is not the Greg agenda. As data points I would cite, oh, Boxer, Franken, Murray, Brown, Burris, . . . Harry Reid just for starters.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 14, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Campaign Commercial:

Sharron Obtuse Angel(R)

For US Senator From Nevada.

I Promise To Get Rid Of Social Security And Medicare, In Order To Kill All Your Grannies.

This commercial was paid for by Nevadans Who Hate Grannies.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

BP Barack's Problem

Posted by: Truthteller12 | June 14, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"No sbj, Greg just wants to keep idiots out of the Senate."

Reid for Angle would have to be considered a draw...Though Reid does have that nice light complexion and Nevada dialect...

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Liberals/progressives really must take seriously the successful strategies and gains made by the right in populating the Supreme Court with ideologues of their stripe. Unless we do the same, we are going to get more of what Ed Kilgore describes below. And that will just further degrade a democracy of, by and for the people.

"June 14, 2010
More Protection for Money Talking

by Ed Kilgore, June 14, 2010 01:22 PM EST

One of the more pernicious if deeply entrenched constitutional doctrines in this country is the idea that spending money on political campaigns is inherently an exercise of first amendment free speech rights whose regulation requires the strictest judicial scrutiny. It's why we do not have any effective national system for campaign finance limitations, and indirectly why at any given time about half the country thinks our politicians have been bought and sold for campaign contributions. Most fundamentally, self-funding candidates can pretty much do whatever they want, and despite the hard economic times, we are seeing self-funders arise this year in extraordinary numbers, particularly on the GOP side of the battlelines.

Unfortunately, the U.S. Supreme Court seems determined to undo every effort to provide candidates who face self-funders with anything like an equalizer. In 2007, in Davis v.F.E.C., a 5-4 majority of the Court struck down the so-called "Millionaire's Amendment"
to the Feingold-McCain campaign finance law on grounds, basically, that it discriminated against millionaires by allowing the opponents of self-funders higher contribution and spending limits.

By the same dubious logic, the Court may be about to strike down "equalizer" provisions in six state public financing systems (Arizona, Connecticut, Maine, New Mexico, North Carolina and Wisconsin). In a case involving Arizona, the Court has issued a stay on the collection of "extra" public money from candidates facing self-funders until it can hear a constitutional challege to the system. Given the Davis precedent, campaign reform advocates are bracing for a bad result." http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/

Posted by: bernielatham | June 14, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Pretty silly to fault a national outlet for picking up something from a local outlet that passed unnoticed on a national level -- and crediting it, to boot

Posted by: sargegreg | June 14, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

BGinCHI, yea re-hashing an unremarkable public radio interview for the WaPo readership that aired weeks ago in NV might put Harry over the top! Ha Ha.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | June 14, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The Right Wing Of The US Supreme Court ruled that spending money was a form of political speech, and can not be restricted.

That means that those with the most money have the biggest amount of free speech, and the Scalia Sycophants have silenced the poor.

The Right Wingers on the court have, through the back door, restored The Poll Tax.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

So, the righties here want to go to bat for Angle against the likes of Reid and Boxer/Franken, et al.

Seriously? I'm not much of a Reid fan, but compared to Angle he's like Einstein.

This is a perfect example of how low those on the right aim for their politicians. Go ahead, offer us a list of accomplishments for Angle, then another list of policy prescriptions/ideas that she has put forward that make her a viable Senate candidate.

I can't wait to see what you come up with.

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

Thanks for the thread on what Sharron Obtuse Angle said about privatizing the health care of all our heroic Veterans.

It was the first time I had heard about it, so it was NEW to me, regardless of of how much "Truth Teller" tries to suppress the story getting broader national coverage.

It is a futile effort on his part. He just looks as silly as a cat trying to bury it's feces on a tin roof.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

"So, the righties here want to go to bat for Angle against the likes of Reid and Boxer/Franken, et al.":

Shoot - I'd put Meatwad up against Boxer.

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

sbj, you realize the shake represents the GOP, right?

Frylock is definitely an Obama kind of character.

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Boxer has a long winning record. Carly Fiorina has a record of getting fired for gross incompetence, and of having been given a huge corporate buyout, to boot. Now she is trying to purchase a seat in the US Senate with the millions of dollars, in HP shareholders money she was given, just to take her incompetent ways, and get out.

That must go down well with all those TeaBaggers who claim to be outraged at the huge bonuses that were paid to Corporate Failure Types.

As for Carly's catty comment about Senator Boxer's hair; Carly needs to look in her own mirror. Her hair style makes her look like a damp rescued Pelican, or Charlie Callas.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

@sbj: "Meatwad" ??? Maybe I don't want to know...

Posted by: srw3 | June 14, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

srw, Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

Late night comedy cartoon. Very funny and impossible to describe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_Teen_Hunger_Force

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

KISS,

"Pottery Barn Rules"

BP broke it, so they have to pay for it.

Only Republicans believe in making the victims pay for the crimes, that Corporations perpetrate.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

@liam: "Carly needs to look in her own mirror. Her hair style makes her look like a damp rescued Pelican, or Charlie Callas."

Open mouth, insert foot.

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Bernie says:

"Unless we do the same,,,"

As if the left hasn't been trying.

From Kilgore:

"One of the more pernicious if deeply entrenched constitutional doctrines in this country is the idea that spending money on political campaigns is inherently an exercise of first amendment free speech rights whose regulation requires the strictest judicial scrutiny."

Yes. How very pernicious of the constitution to allow the likes of the New York Times and the WaPo to spend unregulated amounts of money on paper, newsprint, and writers trying to get their preferred candidates elected.

Posted by: ScottC3 | June 14, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

@liam: "Carly needs to look in her own mirror. Her hair style makes her look like a damp rescued Pelican, or Charlie Callas."

Liam probably didn't read about the whole breast cancer thing.

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

@BG: "sbj, you realize the shake represents the GOP, right?"

And that would make Carl a symbol of the general public?

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Carl is definitely New Jersey, and then we negotiate from there.

He's a great character, though, and anyone who hasn't watched that show ought to give it a chance. Helps to have a sophisticated yet puerile sense of humor.

I still prefer Harvey Birdman.

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

@liam: "Carly needs to look in her own mirror. Her hair style makes her look like a damp rescued Pelican, or Charlie Callas."

Open mouth, insert foot.

Posted by: sbj3 | June 14, 2010 5:03 PM |
..................

Why should I care where you insert your foot, since I know that you always keep your head stuck up your arse!!

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

It passed unnoticed because it's not noteworthy.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | June 14, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Carly made the catty remark about Senator Boxer's hair, so now SBJ claims that Carly should be immune from having her own looks critiqued.

Good luck with that one, SBJ, you two faced lackey of the Republicans, who enact laws to treat you as a sub-human.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

thanks Liam. I thought it was pretty silly to fault someone at a national outlet for plugging a quote reported only on a local level and crediting the local outlet to boot...

Posted by: sargegreg | June 14, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Pssst, Liam: she has that haircut because she lost all her hair during chemo. Breast cancer. Although, frankly, I thought she looked better when it was REALLY short--she's got a well-shaped noggin. Too bad the inside isn't quite so fine-tuned. . .

Posted by: Michigoose | June 14, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

Shorter "Truth Teller"

Stop reporting The Truth.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Truthteller12, tell us the TRUTH.

Do YOU support eliminating Social Security?

Yes/no will do, thx.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 14, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Ethan, I'm still waiting on the list of accomplishments and policy ideas from Angle. Not sure what's taking so long....

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who supports Barbara Boxer forfeits forever any criticism of another candidate on grounds of idiocy.

Fiorina is going to mop the floor with her in any debate context, whether face to face or not.

Maybe Boxer will explain further her claim that global warming is the primary threat to American military personnel.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 14, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

BTW, the VA's measuring stick for medical practice is evidence-based medicine. Don't know about Medicare, but my guess would be that if her Dad can't get his meds from the VA or Medicare it's because he's looking for something that hasn't demonstrated efficacy in treating Parkinson's. Who knows, maybe she's trying to get him Scientology care through the feds. . .

Posted by: Michigoose | June 14, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

BG, but but, policy requires THINKING.

It is literally incredible to me that someone -- anyone! -- would use their right to vote to support someone who does not think things through using sound logic and facts. It is just a clear perversion of what makes this country so great.

If these idiots were told to by the GOP, they would vote to re-instate the King of England.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | June 14, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Then Carly should be the last person to be mocking how Senator Boxer looks.

Carly apologized to Sean Hannity just for saying that he "asks tough questions", but has refused to apologize to Senator Boxer for mocking her appearance.

I was not aware that Ms. Fiorina is recovering from a bout with cancer, but that does not grant her immunity to go around mocking how another women looks.

She can not have it both ways. When she mocks her opponents looks, and refuses to apologie for it, then she becomes fair game, for the same treatment as she has dished out.

OOOh Sean, I am so sorry that I said something harmless about you. Let me rush on to your show, that I said Meg Whitman should not rush on to, and please allow me to super glue my repentant lips to your ample arse.

As for Senator Boxer, no apology for attacking how you look.

Posted by: Liam-still | June 14, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

To the defenders of Angle who do so with no evidence or substance, I'd add Fiorina.

The right loves them some genius business leaders, even when they suck at it. How about some standards over there? If you are a disgraced CEO-type, wouldn't you expect the business community (GOP) to tell you "no thanks"?

Or wait, maybe that's a good way to wreck government?

Brilliant.

Posted by: BGinCHI | June 14, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

All, Happy Hour Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/happy_hour_roundup_28.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | June 14, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

@ab1: Maybe Boxer will explain further her claim that global warming is the primary threat to American military personnel.

From Guardian UK
"A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.

'Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,' concludes the Pentagon analysis. 'Once again, warfare would define human life.'...Experts said that they will also make unsettling reading for a President [Bush] who has insisted national defence is a priority.

The report was commissioned by influential Pentagon defence adviser Andrew Marshall, who has held considerable sway on US military thinking over the past three decades...Climate change 'should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern', say the authors, Peter Schwartz, CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of the California-based Global Business Network.

Sounds like Boxes wasn't far off the mark after all. "Our national security experts tell us that carbon pollution leading to climate change will be, over the next 20 years, the leading cause of conflict, putting our troops in harm's way."

Posted by: srw3 | June 14, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for that laugh, srw.

The first paragraph alone puts the "report" in the realm of lunacy.

Where Boxer does dwell.

Posted by: quarterback1 | June 14, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Social Security "transitioned out"? You mean return to the pre-New Deal days where old people could starve to death in the dark?

BTW, what happened to all those people who were so keen on privatizing Social Security until the stock market and real estate markets collapsed?

Posted by: MichaelOwen04 | June 15, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

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