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GOP blocks small business bill. Who will get the blame?

As I've argued a bunch of times before, no matter how many times Dems scream about GOP obstructionism, the jury is out on whether Republicans will take any of the blame for its consequences. Dems run the place, and the public may tune out any argument over Senate procedure as so much Beltway white noise.

The latest: In the Senate today, Republicans blocked a bill to create a $30 billion fund to enable community banks to boost lending to small businesses. Republicans decried the move as another bailout, and it's now unlikely that it will pass before Congress goes home for vacation in August, with little in the way of jobs bills under its belt.

So how will this story play? This paragraph in the Associated Press write-up says it all:

Congressional Democrats started the year with ambitious plans to pass a series of bills designed to create jobs. But if negotiations on the small business lending bill fail, they will have little to show for it just a few months before midterm elections that will determine whether Democrats keep their majorities in the House and Senate.

And there you have it. Is this how the story will be understood by the American people? Very possible.

Republicans claimed Dems blocked votes on the amendments they wanted. Dems countered that they agreed to votes on the GOP amendments, only to have the GOP demand more votes. Get what's happening here? The larger story is all getting subsumed in a bunch of Beltway white noise.

So here's the question: What storyline will the American people take away from all this?

At the press briefing today, Robert Gibbs tried to tell the story the administration's way. Speaking about the small business bill, he said:

"Why on earth would that fall prey to the same old tired partisan politics, unless one side was much more concerned about playing politics than it is about helping this economy along? That is the fight that this president has had to wage in many cases since the very begining of his administration. He will continue to make the tough decisions. And those that are more interested in playing politics rather than helping small business get the help they need, I assume they'll hear from their constituents about how unproductive that really is."

Whatever their substantive objections to this bill, it appears Republicans have calculated that the failure of Dem legislation, and Dem griping about the GOP's role in blocking it, will only feed a sense that government is broken and has failed to deliver, which will reflect badly on the ruling party. Indeed, if that AP paragraph captures the way the storyline is understood by the American people, Dems are in serious trouble.

By Greg Sargent  |  July 29, 2010; 4:20 PM ET
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Is it just pointless and naive to suggest that the Dems hit back hard with the suggestion that what the GOP is doing is "sabotage"? "Obstruction" just plays into their hands.

They don't believe in gov't, they don't want Dems to succeed, they have said they are against the President and show it every day.

Accuse them of wanting to stop governance altogether. If they say that they are trying to stop "socialism," then call them on it. Examples?

Oh, wait, maybe we don't have a media capable of doing this.

My bad. Better Dems and better analysis of politics, please.

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 29, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I believe the only argument Democrats can make that will work is that the Republicans are blocking legislation for short-term political gains, at the cost of helping the middle-class and the economy recover.

That makes sense to people.

When you start getting into procedures, amendments, etc -- that is where you lose people and the argument.

Posted by: Quick2822 | July 29, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

This morning Maine Public Radio played Olympia Snowe from the Senate floor yesterday. She was in as high a dudgeon as I've ever heard her, wailing that the Democrats blocked the Republicans from adding amendments, when apparently they were able to. That's how they're going to play this.

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | July 29, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Greg, you missed the subject of the article which says alot:

"Republicans block small business lending bill"

To me, that tells me Republicans are to blame for what happened.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | July 29, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

You complain about the AP coverage but you also use the line "Dems run the place" in your articles quite frequently. Dems don't run the Senate as long as there are 41 Republicans and the fillibuster. Really, right now nobody runs the Senate, it isn't America's greatest deliberative body it is America's most disfunctional body.

How does this play at home? We'll see. We're about to see if 3 months of Democratic campaigning can equal 2 years of Republican campaigning. Becasue that is what you've had since 2008. Democrats have tried to govern, Republicans have campaigned. We're 100 days out, August recess is approaching, both sides are about to get fully engaged in campaign mode. It's game on - let's see what happens.

I still think stuff like this and unemployment inusurance votes are big game changers. The electorate is not highly informed but how many uninsured don't know who voted against their unemployment extensions. How many people do they know, how many family members. There are now a lot of quotes from Republicans that are going to hit the airwaves in the next 3 months calling the unemployed lazy and insulting the unemployed. How many people have lost their job and been unemployed in this recession - these are voting age adults, this I think will be a game changer.

Posted by: zattarra | July 29, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Is Gibbs really the spokesman? His answer was so convoluted that I wasn't sure what he was saying until I reread it.

I think the "Republicans are stopping us from doing the work the American people sent us here to do. We are asking for is an up or down vote on aid to small businesses so they can do what they do best, which is to create jobs. If republicans want to vote against this, they can. But to stop us from having an up or down vote is just wasting the American people's time when we should be addressing crucially important job creation initiatives. All we are demanding is an up or down vote!"

That is easy to understand and includes the important words, up or down vote, create jobs, If he can't work up or down vote into every other sentence he should be fired.

Posted by: srw3 | July 29, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

zattarra -- I only use that phase to describe what I worry will be the public's takeaway. You see what I mean?

And Mike, agreed -- but I was just citing that one paragraph as an example of how this story risks playing.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 29, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I think the Dems win on this one.

Posted by: benintn | July 29, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

But the problem is a lot of people can't read irony in a blog post. Using the words just enforces the words, subtlety get's lost. This concerns me. I read you daily, I know what you are saying and how you write, but does everyone who comes across your work?

Posted by: zattarra | July 29, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I would be playing clips of republicans clamoring for an up or down vote from the bush (lost) years over and over again until it sinks in. Its not that hard to understand.

Did I mention up or down vote? Job creation? Republicans not doing the people's business?

up or down vote? Job creation? Republicans not doing the people's business?

up or down vote? Job creation? Republicans not doing the people's business?

This is not a complex message.

Posted by: srw3 | July 29, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I think you're making this too complicated.

When you read to the comments on many blogs or on many MSM sites that allow comments on the articles, what are people typically responding to? The article title.

Many people don't even actually read the article, as evidenced by level of comment posting that is completely contradicted by information contained in the articles they're commenting on.

So, understanding that people are primarily informed by headlines, let's look at the article from which you've quoted. The portion you've quoted is in the 5th paragraph.

But what is the title? "Republicans block small business lending bill." And for good measure, the first paragraph reinforces Republican obstruction: "Senate Republicans blocked a bill to increase small business lending Thursday, dealing a setback to President Barack Obama's jobs agenda."

I think some are too pessimistic about the Democratic messaging. It's often derided as ineffectual and weak. But, the "Party of No" moniker has been firmly affixed to the Republican Party. (They have also, with some assists from Republicans, been successfully tied to Big Business instead of Main Street.)

Now, it's simply a matter of the Democrats making those impressions reap dividends. And, given how unpopular the Republicans and their policies (or lack thereof) actually are, it may not be as difficult as you believe.

Additionally, the Democrats aren't left without economic victories. Washington does not often take note about the benefits of the stimulus, but localities have been more inclined to run stories about stimulus spending and its impact on job creation/saving jobs, particularly when it comes to matters like infrastructure and/or saving the jobs of firefighters and teachers.

The notion that Republicans can simply obstruct everything, and not have to answer for it is shortsighted.

As much as America hates "losers," (i.e., the Democrats, according to this blog; although, I'm not sold on the notion that they've "lost" the argument), America hates people who aren't even willing to try even more.

In America, you're supposed to at least try -- make an effort to set things right. Sitting on their hands won't be the "winning strategy" that you and the Republicans think it will.

Posted by: associate20 | July 29, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't think I reached any conclusions about what will happen this fall. I just warned about the possibility of how it could play out. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I know what's going to happen.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 29, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Screw the Taliban and Al-Queda. The real enemy of our country is the GOP.

Just send in special forces to knock off the GOP congress one by one.

Problem solved.

Posted by: jfern03 | July 29, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

The Dems really need to pick up and run with "Let Them Eat Want Ads" and "New Deal vs. Raw Deal." Both of which have the advantage of being true and accurate.

Posted by: JennOfArk | July 29, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the Dems are letting the GOP go all out on the sabotage/obstruction without too much counterweight in order to build up an arsenal of examples for the fall election push.

Unless the country is asleep, there are going to be many, many reasons not to vote for GOP candidates, especially when those candidates are individually nutty as fruitcakes.

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 29, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I believe the only argument Democrats can make that will work is that the Republicans are blocking legislation for short-term political gains, at the cost of helping the middle-class and the economy recover.

That makes sense to people.

Posted by: Quick2822

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Make perfect sense. Lying is all the dems have left. On the bright side though no one does it better or more often

Posted by: Straightline | July 29, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I thought (ok, let's be honest, hoped) Phyllis Schlafly was no longer with us.

Alas:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/dems-call-on-gopers-to-renounce-phyllis-schlafly-over-remarks-about-unmarried-women-audio.php?ref=fpa

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 29, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I may be pessimistic, but the GOP somehow manages to sleeze out of anything they screw up (e.g. Bush Administration getting off with not even a wrist slap for their misdeeds).l The Dems just have to get meaner and fight fire with fire, using facts that stand up to proof rather than vague statements with no supporting facts used by the GOP. Make the "Party of No" explain why they hate the middle class and don't want to help us.

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | July 29, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

BG,

WOW! Wonder what Bristol Palin would say about this:


"Unmarried women, 70% of unmarried women, voted for Obama, and this is because when you kick your husband out, you've got to have big brother government to be your provider," said Schlafly, president of Eagle Forum and infamous for her opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment.

LMAO

Posted by: suekzoo1 | July 29, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I think the Democrats need to keep it simple and straightforward, and stick to (correctly) characterizing the GOP as the Party of No. There are reams of footage that illustrate this.

All they need to do is check off every single initiative designed to help the middle class and show how the Republicans have said NO.

The Republicans, as usual, as banking on the American people to be stupid. Maybe that's true of their own base, but I still believe that the average American voter is smarter than he or she is ever given credit for by the GOP and the corporate media.

By the way, Greg, let me chime in here and congratulate you on your appearance last night on Countdown. You were great! I've told my husband about your blog here and how you are a solid voice in the media, telling the truth about how Sarah Palin isn't nearly as influential as most of the media claims, so it was great for him to be able to see you talk about that on Countdown.

Hope they bring you back often.

Posted by: elscott | July 29, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I think the Democrats need to keep it simple and straightforward, and stick to (correctly) characterizing the GOP as the Party of No. There are reams of footage that illustrate this.

All they need to do is check off every single initiative designed to help the middle class and show how the Republicans have said NO.

The Republicans, as usual, as banking on the American people to be stupid. Maybe that's true of their own base, but I still believe that the average American voter is smarter than he or she is ever given credit for by the GOP and the corporate media.

By the way, Greg, let me chime in here and congratulate you on your appearance last night on Countdown. You were great! I've told my husband about your blog here and how you are a solid voice in the media, telling the truth about how Sarah Palin isn't nearly as influential as most of the media claims, so it was great for him to be able to see you talk about that on Countdown.

Hope they bring you back often.

Posted by: elscott | July 29, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Replying to:
"Lying is all the dems have left. On the bright side though no one does it better or more often. Posted by: Straightline | July 29, 2010 5:10 PM"

Sorry, Straightline, but you don't give your fellow Republicans nearly enough credit. Compared to the GOP smear machine and its many media minions (Breitbart, FOX News and Drudge, to name but a few), Democrats are mere dabblers.

Don't get me wrong: I understand your fervent desire to sweep the lies and screw-ups of the past administration under the carpet. But not all of us have forgotten the GOP's dismal record--not by a long shot!

Posted by: DCSteve1 | July 29, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The GOP has made it clear that they want Americans to suffer as long as there's a Democratic president in office. They have fought tooth and nail to block every effort Obama has made to help Americans and even have gone so far as to apologize to a British Oil Co. for OUR President trying to secure money for OUR citizens affected by the Gulf Spill.

They wanted to kill unemployment benefits, kill better health care for all and now they want to kill the Small Business bill. Republicans don't care about America or Americans, they just want to get back into power so that they can start more wars that benefit their corporate buddies in the defense industry. Everything they do is for big business...not the American people.

Posted by: massmedia77 | July 29, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

@jfern03: don't go there! Not even in jest. It just delegitimizes the real evil that republicans are doing and allows the denizens of farrightwingnutistan to point to this kind of comment and say "See the left does it too, so we can threaten second amendment solutions to problems without criticism.

It is a small thing really, but I don't think it does any good and may do some harm.

Posted by: srw3 | July 29, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

thanks, elscott, I really appreciate that. :)

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 29, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh gee, sorry the double post. Something wasn't loading right.

Posted by: elscott | July 29, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

MILLIONS OF AMERICANS OUT OF WORK AND WHERE IS OBUMA? HE IS ON A TELEVISION SHOW. THAT IS WHERE HE BELONGS. ON LOONEY TUNES A KIDS TELEVISION SHOW. THIS GUY NO MORE HAS THE AMERICAN WORKER IN HIS MIND THAN MICKEY MOUSE. HOWEVER HE WILL E APPEALING TO AMERICANS TO STAND UP AND SUPPORT HIS BILLS. HOW DUMB CAN AMERICANS BE TO SUPPORT THIS GUY?

Posted by: MALBENNET | July 29, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

MILLIONS OF AMERICANS OUT OF WORK AND WHERE IS OBUMA? HE IS ON A TELEVISION SHOW.

Actually, he was trying to pass legislation that would create a 30 billion dollar fund to help American small businesses. This would have added jobs for millions of Americans, but once again, the GOP decided they'd rather play politics than actually help Americans get ahead.

You go right ahead and vote for the GOP in 2012. If you're poor or middle class, you'll find out just how much the GOP doesn't represent you. How can you vote for a party that wants to see Americans suffer?

Posted by: massmedia77 | July 29, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Mal, that sounds even stupider in all caps.

You win the internets.

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 29, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

..."Excellent truthful article one of the reasons why the President and Democrats doing all they can to help as the "Minority/Party/No/Republicans do all they can to stop them from helping YOU!

The REpublicans under their boy blew it BUsh lost a "RECORD/FACT/8.5 MILLION JOBS, don't want to let the Democrats help the Middle Class and Working/Poor, remember that America when you go Vote this Novernber and remember the party/NO" who stopped help from the Federal Government to a record number of American's out of work!

Remember that America when you go vote this fall, remember the party/tea/NO/Republicans who left all American's in record debt/deficit/bill $1.5 Trillion dollars, and then left town/office with the "LOWEST JOB APPROVAL RATING IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENCY 20 PERCENT the Pew Poll reported!

These facts/record/Republicans and why America's economy is in the MESS it's in, I don't care how good you are no man can create 8.5 Million jobs in two years what took the Party/NO/Republicans eight years to loose!

Remember facts matter and Republicans just hate them, because they can't lie out of them, or run from them, and they hope you won't look at them!

We are in this MESS because of the party/NO/Republicans and the 8.5 Million lost jobs is why a record number of American's are out of work and the party of NO put you out, so put them out come November, show them the facts/record/matters, and their is criminal to this registered VOter/Vet USAF!

Posted by: ztcb41 | July 29, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

More selective editing and lies, different subject (the FRC and DADT):

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/why-frc-selectively-editing-sgt-ratcliffs-dadt-views

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 29, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

OT:

Kos 1
PawlenZzzzzzz... 0

Despite the caveats from our experts, we see no reason to undercut Marcus' finding that the U.S. ranks low among other developed countries in total tax burden. Corporate taxes are comparatively high in the U.S., and that's a worry for businesses and, indirectly, for their employees and customers. But corporate taxes only accounted for 12 percent of federal tax revenues in 2008, so we don't think it's valid to focus on that factor to the exclusion of the broader tax burden. While we won't take a position on the the question of overtaxation, we think that, contrary to what Pawlenty said, there is a credible argument to be made that the U.S. is undertaxed compared to its competitors. So we rate his statement:

* FALSE *

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jul/29/tim-pawlenty/tim-pawlenty-says-us-not-undertaxed-compared-its-c/

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 29, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone stupider than TX congressman Louis Gohmert?

Anyone?

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201007290002

I didn't think it was possible to be this uninformed. Do people actually sit at a dinner table with him every night and not think about laughing in his face?

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 29, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Last two links via Benen.

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 29, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

That's Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post, not Kos. woops! :) interesting point nonetheless...

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 29, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

"Is anyone stupider than TX congressman Louis Gohmert?"

I think some of the trolls on this site could give him a run for his money. Carthage comes to mind...

Posted by: SDJeff | July 29, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm so sick of this.

Seriously, is the media at large ever going to start reporting what's really going on here?

The Republican party is doing everything it can to stop any sort of economic recovery, in the hopes that it will help them electorally this fall if the American people are miserable and broke.

Everyone in DC knows this is the case. It's not a secret. It's not even all that clever. And that's why every single Washington reporter knows what's going down. But they refuse, completely refuse to report it this way. They simply bow to the forces of "parity" and act like both sides are the same - when they clearly aren't.

The worse that DC gets, the more obvious that the reason it's that way is because we have a media in this country that's too busy tripping over themselves to give BJs to the Republican party and their corporate overlords to actually report on the reality of the situation.

I love this country too much to not be overwhelmed with disgust at the pathetic nature of our press and our politics at the moment. It's the erosion of our democracy, plain and simple.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | July 29, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

All, Happy Hour Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/07/happy_hour_roundup_60.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 29, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

How any middle class American can put faith in the Republican Party is beyond me! As a former small business owner, I know how difficult it is to get a small business loan. That includes when times are good and bad. But, now it is close to impossible. This just proves to me that the Republicans are only for REALLY BIG BUSINESS.

Posted by: janetal2004gmailcom | July 29, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

It's all about horse trading to shape the bill they wanted and if the Dems refuse to accept it they will stop the legislation after all you need 60 votes to move forward.

The media will get into a lather on whose fault it is forcing viewers to decide whose fault it is.

Posted by: beeker25 | July 29, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

We tha taxpayers -- you and me -- paid bearly out of wallets to bail out Wall Street. One reason:
kept credit available for Main Street businesses, especially new enterprises -- the creators of most new jobs.

But that credit faucet remains largely turned off, and millions upon millions are without a job and with little prospect of one. There suffering folks are our neighbors on Main Street: the long-term unemployed, youth and young adults who are unable to enter the labor force, and older adults who need to re-enter the labor force because a spouse is now long unemployed or because of Wall Street's devastation of retirement savings and personal assets.

Meanwhile, the pay for Wall Street top execs has soared. We assumed the cost of the risks they took while they continue to benefit handsomely.

We're suckers.

The legislation to help business on Main Street needs to force Wall Street to be transparent and accountable for extending credit to Main Street, and for compensation to be related to their success in doing so.

What about the GOP lock jaw utterances of No. No. No. Make clear and vivid what is proposed and its relation to Wall Street (holding it accountable) and the benefits for Main Street -- you and me, and what is blocking improvement of the welfare of the country.

And the House and the Senate should both go into session 24/7 until the people's work gets done.


Posted by: jimb | July 29, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's where a lot of commentators here are confused.

The Post's view hardly reflects what's going on out in the real country. Go around the country and you'll find politicians are running away from political affiliation.

And most of the posters here take the cake. The reflect an interesting view where the government is the central-most authority to their lives.

For the rest of the country, the fed is simply something that taxes them too much.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | July 29, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

give the dems another slush fund...
no thanks...
and it is their fault...
for all of it...

Posted by: DwightCollins | July 29, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: SDJeff Is anyone stupider than TX congressman Louis Gohmert? Anyone?"

Plugs Biden sure comes to mind.

Posted by: MDDem1 | July 29, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are little more than Trotskyites. They are trying to deliberately sabotage the economy for their own political gain.

Posted by: ElrodinTennessee | July 29, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Wait, it's just fine with the GOP to bail out monster banks, but try to do it for small business and they fight tooth and nail to stop it?

What a stab in the back that is.

Posted by: Nymous | July 29, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to hear the US Chamber of Commerce (a lobbying organization) try to explain their support of candidates working to block this. That should be priceless gold plated BS. I suspect this might cause them a membership moment or two.

Posted by: Nymous | July 29, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse


Health care (transformation) is one of the best issues this current administration has done thus far. With this change individuals will have the opportunity to seek professional and quality health care services. Who would want to return to the days of the horse and buggy, b/w tv sets, manual typewriters, pac man, you get the point? That's about how old the health care system was in the USA. Each day the news is filled with social tragedies in which lives are taken at the hands of known acquaintences and/or family members. Our society is stricken with the institutions of white collar crime permeating throughout this great nation and greed which tends to strike at the very fabric of our country. If you are looking for affordable health insurance check out http://bit.ly/chE6zp . I hope everyone will soon recognize and use the resources made by this transformation to seek professional medical attention as the need arises rather than turning to illegal and criminal activities to resolve their issues.


Posted by: whitney29 | July 30, 2010 2:24 AM | Report abuse

The main stream media is afraid to tell the truth because repubs own the companys. Reporters dropped the ball on Sherrod case and then Matt Laure and other said Both Dems and repubs do what Brietbart did. No they dont, and they dont have willing accomplices like Fox and Drudge and Beck and Limbaugh to run on the air 24/7. Also Fox claimed they didnt touch the Sherrod story till after she resigned. Again not true. Orrielly shot a segment saying she "needs" to resign before she resigned. Fox also put the story on the web. The MSM is failing miserably getting the truth out now, just as they did before Iraq war.

Posted by: jimbobkalina | July 30, 2010 5:29 AM | Report abuse

Greg needs to take into consideration what the polls say if he is going to consider this. And the polls say that though the perception of the Dems is low, the opinion of the Repub Congress is down in the dirt and is well deserved. As mentioned somewhere else the number of actual competitive Congressional Districts is limited and it is those districts where the question of how the impact of the Repubs obstructionism is viewed is relevant.

Posted by: Falmouth1 | July 30, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Bushonomics 101.

Posted by: whocares666 | July 30, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

"...Dems are in serious trouble." To which, I can only add, "We can but hope this is true."

Posted by: DoTheRightThing | July 30, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are for smaller government but for big business (LB). Who loves you baby!

I don't know how many of you readers out there have ever competed for government contracts, but for those of you who have, can see how the above REALLY works for large business.

Next time you happen to see a listing of attendees for a pre-solicitation, check out the number of large businesses compared to small who attend.

And most LBs have offices in DC, Virginia and Maryland with the pre-solicitations being held in the East coast. As small businesses who hardly have a penny to spend on marketing, how can we compete.

Posted by: epespinoza43 | July 30, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

If the question is stupid, the right answer is "NO!" Why should the small business started next month be free of capital gains tax, when the small business started last month or last year gets nothing? The solution to an overly complex, loophole-ridden tax code is not to add MORE loopholes and exemptions. The Republicans are helping to stop the madness, and they will be rewarded at the polls.

Posted by: mark31 | July 30, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

The GOP always talks about small business during campaigns, but once in office they climb into bed with Big Business. When will the small business community wake up to that? The GOP uses you as a pawn, that's all.

Posted by: jckdoors | July 30, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

well it appears that the GOP speaks with forked tongue.

This is nothing new.

What may be new is NOW people have yet ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY to re-live it, remember, and never forget how the truth moves whenever you speak with a member of that group.

Tax breaks for businesses was their mantra a couple of years ago.

Now it's something they feel will be good for America if the block it.

It's getting to be a bit ridiculous, isn't it?

I don't think I want to lend an ear for much of anything a certified liar has to say.

Posted by: pgibson1 | July 30, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Heartless bastards!

Posted by: lddoyle2002 | July 30, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

The GO-Teabagers hate doing anything for Americans. They talk about the "American people" but only the "RICH American people" not the ones trying the start business, or even those of 9/11, who were willing to sacrifice their own health for the victims...


Posted by: demtse | July 30, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

What no one is talking about are the nature of the Republican amendments and the details of the overall bill that are so objectionable to conservatives. I strongly suspect that it is a lot more like the bill is being filibustered because of some Democratic items that will raise costs to business and consumers, add onerous regulations and further curtail freedoms. But hey, the liberals don't want to talk about THOSE things, do they?

Posted by: honorswar26 | July 30, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

the storyline the people will take?

They won't be able to hire new employees.
They won't be able to pay for Healthcare for current employees.
They will go bankrupt
There will be no start ups.
There will be no loans to help get over this economic crisis (for i.e.: upgrade their dinosaur software)

And when small businesses lose it all, foreclosures will go up. Unemployment will hike up. We will lose the middle class American businessman.

that makes for a sad storyline.


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | July 30, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I was so happy with Anthony Weiner's rant today in Congress. It's about time Democrats grew a pair and started yelling and screaming about how the GOP is all about No, NO, NO!!!

Posted by: dlopata | July 30, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

While military men and women are “bands of brothers” the current GOP are “bands of cowards and cheapskates” hiding behind others who do the fighting and paying. While bands of brothers sacrifice for others; bands of cowards and cheapskates only look out for themselves. To understand the meaning of sacrifice, you have to make sacrifices.

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm

“Federal, state and local income taxes consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reports. That rate is far below the historic average of 12% for the last half-century. The overall tax burden hit bottom in December at 8.8.% of income before rising slightly in the first three months of 2010.”

The GOP are not willing to sacrifice anything, let alone expiring tax cuts and a modest tax on gasoline for Job creation and deficit reduction. Not Me says the GOP, not Me; I am not sacrificing squat. You go fight so I can burn and waste cheap oil. Military men and women may sacrifice legs, arms, eyes and their lives in the Middle East but not people with good Jobs and Benefits who are nice and cozy at home.

Ronald (Raised Taxes to Balance budget) Reagan and Richard (EPA, Clean Air and Water Acts):

NEWSWEEK Even Reagan Wasn’t a Reagan Republican: why every recent GOP president wasn’t conservative enough for today’s party.

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/05/10/even-reagan-wasn-t-a-reagan-republican.html

Posted by: Airborne82 | July 30, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

USA GDP for 2010 is roughly $14.6 Trillion, Federal Revenues are $2.4 Trillion, mandatory Spending is $2.2 Trillion, and discretionary spending (defense, fighting two wars, homeland security, education, art, culture, government Services, etc.,) is $1.37 Trillion. $2.2 of mandatory + $1.37 of discretionary spending = $3.57 Trillion…roughly 24.5% of GDP.

Second Quarter earnings have recently come in for ExxonMobil ($7.56 billion), ConocoPhillips ($4.16 billion), Shell ($4.38 billion) and Dominion Power ($1.76 billion). Despite an official corporate tax rate of 35% most of these companies pay little to nothing ($0.00) in USA Federal taxes while offshoring American jobs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/29/AR2010072901985.html

Exxon Mobil made a record $45.2 billion profit in 2009 but paid "$0.00" in USA federal taxes. At @ a 35% corporate tax rate that's $15.8 billion in Public Taxpayer subsidies given to Exxon in 2009. Over 10 years that runs to $150 Billion in taxpayer subsidies for Exxon alone. Combine all the major Oil (BP, ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell, ConocoPhillips, Halliburton, Transocean, Ocean Energy, ATP Oil and Gas, Hercules and Rowan, Parker Drilling etc.,) companies and its closer to a Trillion dollars of Taxpayer subsidies. That is a Trillion dollars that could fund Clean energy Jobs and American manufacturing.

Giving the Oil industry a Trillion and the wealthiest Trillions when America is in desperate need is a crying shame. Those Taxes Should Be Raised, Loopholes eliminated, and the Money used to Create USA Clean Energy Jobs and Manufacturing. America needs a minimum tax rate of 15% for all businesses and individuals after all deductions. Allow all deductions but only credit up to a mandatory 15% tax rate.

Posted by: Airborne82 | July 30, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

While the GOP is blocking clean energy jobs and American manufacturing and giving themselves Trillions in subsidies, China is not wasting any time:

China combines the Power of the State to help create Private Industry Jobs. The Chinese government is investing $738 Billion over the next 10 years in clean energy jobs and manufacturing; often using American technology that has been Offshored to China for manufacturing and jobs. Every dollar invested generally attracts two and more dollars in Private investment.

The USA "Wastes" money on 100% taxpayer funded Defense spending while China "Invests" money on Products they can sell. China trade surplus with the USA is projected to be $250 Billion for 2010 ($71 Billion for 1st Quarter) and their Defense budget is under $150 Billion versus $722 Billion for the USA in 2010. This $800 Billion Dollars a year goes towards Creating Jobs and Industries in China.

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2010

China is pulling ahead in worldwide race for high-speed rail transportation:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/11/AR2010051104950.html

“Last year (2009), China surpassed the United States as the world's largest automaker. The country is aggressively making jets to compete with Boeing and Airbus. And in recent years, with little outside notice, China made another great leap forward in transportation: It now leads the world in high-speed rail.”

In 2009 China invested $100 Billion into High speed rail compared to US stimulus investment of $8 Billion. China is investing $120 Billion in High speed rail for 2010.

World Nuclear Association: 23 Nuclear Reactors under construction In China:

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf63.html

* Mainland China has 11 nuclear power reactors in commercial operation, 23 under construction, and more about to start construction soon.
* Additional reactors are planned, including some of the world's most advanced, to give more than a tenfold increase in nuclear capacity to 80 GWe by 2020, 200 GWe by 2030, and 400 GWe by 2050.
* China is rapidly becoming self-sufficient in reactor design and construction, as well as other aspects of the fuel cycle.”

Posted by: Airborne82 | July 30, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

America needs Regional National Clean Energy Deployment Banks

USA Mega-Banks are not lending to USA businesses, they are hoarding money, Investing Overseas in China, Taiwan, Southeast Asia, and using it to place bets on Derivatives, Swaps, CDO’s Etc, instead of USA Manufacturing and USA Jobs and Industries. The Wall Street Journal reported that US richest businesses are sitting on $1.84 Trillion in liquid assets instead of investing in manufacturing, research, development and expansion. In contrast China is investing $768 Billion over 10 years into Nuclear Reactors, High Speed Rail, Freight Rail, Wind, Fuel Cell and Solar Private Industry Products they can sell to the world.

Foreign companies in China sound off on business policies

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/21/AR2010072106001.html?hpid=sec-business

“(China) policies known as "indigenous innovation," which essentially requires firms operating here (in China) to transfer their latest technology to China; it also favors homegrown Chinese companies for government business and contracts.

China combines the Power of the State to help create Private Industry Jobs. The Chinese government is investing $738 Billion over the next 10 years in clean energy jobs and manufacturing. Every dollar invested generally attracts two and more dollars in Private investment. Much of the technology is provided by America because there is little incentive to develop it in America. Blocking clean energy jobs and manufacturing legislation insures “America’s Best Intellectual Property” gets transferred to and developed in China.

America needs a series of Regional National Clean Energy Deployment Banks to lend to emerging industries that are proven to create USA Jobs while addressing America’s most pressing needs; Job Creation, Manufacturing Products, Energy Independence, and Economic Security.

Posted by: Airborne82 | July 30, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama and Gibbs, but not just Gibbs, need to be out there saying what the bill does and who is for it and who is against it. The news today reported that big business profits are up, but they aren't hiring any more people. So the only place there are going to be jobs is in small business. But the GOP doesn't want to help. So Obama needs to tell the American people: the GOP likes things the way they are. Profits up for big business but nothing in it for you and me. He has simply not used TV enough to get his message across -- simply and clearly.

Posted by: fmjk | July 30, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

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