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* Where elite opinion is heading: Don't miss Fareed Zakaria's strong criticism of the folly of our involvement in Afghanistan. If you watch only one video today, make it this one.

* But: Joe Biden says the drawdown timetable is very much alive: Though it will be "conditions based," he adds that "there is no question we will begin to draw down troops in July."

* Lucy really will hold the football this time! Scott Brown says he's likin' what he's seein' on financial reform. This is the week it's supposed to pass.

* Understatement of the day, from Fox News: Michael Steele has a "reputation for ad-libbing on delicate issues."

* Also in that link: Steele is working the phones to try to save his gig. But as far as I can tell, most Republicans don't even think of him as RNC chair anymore; they seem to think they don't have any RNC chair, and just have to wait him out in order to get one.

* Along those lines, Rick Klein asserts, rightly I think, that Steele isn't going anywhere, leaving Republicans resigned to tolerating a "diminished" RNC.

* Indeed, if you look at the full rundown of people criticizing Steele for questioning the Afghan war, what's interesting is the break between conservatives who want him out and elected GOP officials who aren't quite willing to go that far.

* Sarah Palin for RNC chair!

* Tea Partiers celebrate Independence Day by decrying the tyranny of a not-particularly-radical health reform effort that was authored by a president and Congress elected by comfortable majorities.

* The DNC keeps hammering away at Joe Barton's apology and John Boehner's ant.

* The Economist doctors its cover photo to make Obama look forlorn and alone as he ponders his Katrina. Who cares -- it's the bloggers who are destroying journalism from within by having opinions while reporting!

* Kendrick Meek indicates to Steve Benen that he knows his lack of name rec is a major problem, but vows that paid media will finally enable him to break through.

* Jill Lawrence says liberals should learn to love flag-waving. Right, right, right. See, people get to honor their country as they see fit, and there's no particular reason why their preferred method of expressing patriotism must be visible outside their houses so you can nod in satisfaction as you walk by.

* Andrew Sullivan celebrates the 4th with a paean to the blogosphere.

And I hope you're all enjoying your holiday. What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  |  July 5, 2010; 11:58 AM ET
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Well, it's rather convenient for Jill Lawrence that her ill-considered post appears on AOL, where it's unlikely that it will be read by much of anyone and even less likely that anyone will comment on the obvious weakness of her assumptions, given AOL's closed-shop registration and fine-tooth combing of comments to make sure no one says anything that will hurt her tender sensibilities.

Fortunately, I already spoke to this fetish for symbols possessed by the weaker-minded among us yesterday on my own blog, here. (And if that link doesn't work, the blog is http://3weirdsisters.wordpress.com)

It's actually little surprise that the teabaggers and their ilk choose these symbols to represent who's a patriot and who is not, since it's oh so much easier than actually doing the work required to really be one.

Posted by: JennOfArk | July 5, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"The Economist doctors its cover photo to make Obama look forlorn and alone as he ponders his Katrina"

Time for an ethics panel.

I know that CW is that the doctored photograph makes Obama look "forlorn", "Carteresque", but I don't see that--it looks like he's thinking, more than anything else.

And as for the Jimmy Carter similarities? Um, is there some iconic photograph of Carter alone, looking forlorn, that I don't know about? Or are people supposed to see Obama alone and flashback to the last time a president was alone, and immediatly think Carter? And "malaise speech"? (another piece of crap punditry by the Beltway insiders....)

I'm clearly not getting the symbolism that's supposedly here.

And I thought the Economist was better than this, but obviously not.

Posted by: CTVoter | July 5, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, I do hope they pick Pain as that would be the final nail in their coffin.

Posted by: kathlenec | July 5, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

NRO via Bernie: "... She'd [Palin] raise tons of money [as RNC Chair] ..."

But almost all of it would be for someone else.

What's the fun in that?

Posted by: jzap | July 5, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"She'd [Palin] raise tons of money [as RNC Chair] ..."

But almost all of it would be for someone else.

What's the fun in that?"

Good point jzap, Palin ain't about to help anyone but herself

Posted by: SDJeff | July 5, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

"Gosh, I do hope they pick Pain as that would be the final nail in their coffin. Posted by: kathlenec"

You must be a true blue Republican afflicted by the reality syndrome.

Sarah Palin replacing Mike Steele at this point would basically sink ANY hopes Sarah might ever entertain for elective office.

Left to her own devices, and supported by her conservative backers, as long as she doesn't take a job that actually expects her to do something she is a wonderful probability to be the Republican sacrificial presidential lamb in 2012. Put her at RNC, watch her alienate donors faster than she recruits them, and have her in a position where her ravings can be interpreted as republican Dogma, and by 2012 she will have 600 million enemies in only 350 million Americans.

And Mikey is doing more than enough to brand the Republican party with totally thoughtless positions.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 5, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

ceflynline - Umm, I'm pretty sure that was kathlenec's point. C'mon, you're not really that slow, are you?

Having said that, I'm not at all sure that Palin couldn't be fairly successful at the job. As pointed out repeatedly, the party chair isn't actually expected to debate policy points, even though Steele seems to think it's fun.

Posted by: Bob-S | July 5, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin for RNC Chair? Why not? She'd raise tons of money and keep the nation laughing while they circle the toilet bowl.

Posted by: arancia12 | July 5, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse


Wonderful idea...Sarah would raise tons of money for the Republicans, motivate the Republican base, and keep Obama's National Socialists peeing in their pants from now through November.

Posted by: JCM-51 | July 5, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin as RNC’s Chair? Hummm, given what constitutes the party now (half-witted dittohead lemmings), why not? We have equal rights for women... no reason not to continue along in the same vein as Steele with Palin... Stupid is as stupid does.

At least the retardikans are consistent!

Posted by: 4Jaxon | July 5, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Gee! what happened to Palin's book? After News Max bought 100,000 copies to give away if you buy their republican "RAG" I have never heard about it again. LOL

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | July 5, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Good point jzap, Palin ain't about to help anyone but herself

Posted by: SDJeff

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Which would make her no different from the current RNC chair, whose RNC has gotten caught in questionable expenses, who uses RNC money for his own luxury hotels, meals, and transportation rather than for elections, and who turns every public appearance into shameless self-promotion.

The only advantage that Steele has over Palin is that Steele is black, and therefore he can say whatever he wants about Obama without being called "racist."

That, and the fact that changing leadership with elections only months away could hurt GOP chances, is why GOP bosses will keep Steele around.

The only question is whether or not Steele will keep opening his mouth. If he does, he might just hurt Republicans more at the polls than ditching him now would.

Posted by: blert | July 5, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

When did Murdoch buy the Economist?

Posted by: hairguy01 | July 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Re Palin... show her the money!

Posted by: whocares666 | July 5, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Sarah has no job and mountain of bills since she quit her job and then lost the job at Fox Station. But it's like replacing one idiot with another idiot. Are there any educated Republicans available to be Chairman? Bob and Libby Dole need the money and even Laura/George Bush could use the income to help with their life style. Who knows Arlene Specter has no job now maybe he'll accept the job with the RNC.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | July 5, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

"ceflynline - Umm, I'm pretty sure that was kathlenec's point. C'mon, you're not really that slow, are you? Having said that, I'm not at all sure that Palin couldn't be fairly successful at the job. As pointed out repeatedly, the party chair isn't actually expected to debate policy points, even though Steele seems to think it's fun. Posted by: Bob-S"

Understated irony is always risky on these blogs.

While letting a bott fly like Steele nominally occupy the position as a frontispiece makes it look like the Chair has no particular occupation, SOMEBODY has to run the day to day ops and somebody has to be responsible for overall strategy. Steele or his puppeteer must be doing that, poorly if funds on hand are any indication.

With Sarah in the chair expect the whole committee to be Palin people or at least reflect her cavalier approach to the nuts and bolts of politics, like listening to the rank and file, (Palin listens to her caribou chorus, but knowing what the median or modal GOPer has to say would be too boring.)

Sarah in the chair would cost the Committee too much time and brand the rank and file too bizarre for Republican success in 2010, and wreck the party even worse that it is wrecking itself already.

She does in credible damage to the Rs no matter where she treads, but as GOP standard bearer in 2012 she is every Democrats fondest hope.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 5, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

As feared, the oil in now in Lake Pontchartrain, which borders New Orleans.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/05/gulf.oil.pontchartrain/

Posted by: wbgonne | July 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

1) Doesn't pay much.

2) Requires actual work and attention to detail.

Posted by: turningfool | July 5, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh gads, the ice queen as the RNC chair? Um, no. Not EVEN close.

Posted by: Alex511 | July 5, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Haven't you clowns done enough damage to the pary ????

Mrs. Palin by the way would not lreave the financial gravy train that she is riding to take this job. Isnce Mr. Steele has failed the purity test what shall we do with him now ?

How dare he speak ill against the multi-billion dollar gravy train that is the Afghanistan-Iraq fiasco !

Posted by: jpb0914 | July 5, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Well. That would be convenient for many RNC, Palin, Tea Party bashers. It would also free up space for WaPo. The writers can combine all their demeaning stories in one article.

Posted by: bethg1841 | July 5, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Yes, please hire Palin - she is a ticking bomb waiting to blow up. Of course that describes the republican party lately anyway, so not sure they really need her. It would be kind of fun to watch her antics and her strange winks--the good ole boys out in the woods with big guts playing army would go crazy!

Posted by: Sherry91 | July 5, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

What about Palin and Steele as joint-chairpersons? They could fund themselves in those positions. There probably wouldn't be much left for others. It also opens the possibility of a Palin / Steele or a Steele / Palin ticket in 2012.

Posted by: esch | July 5, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse


Hee, hee hee, wouldn't that be a lark. This is a real possibility because the neocons have a real penchant for chasing their tails.


Posted by: mortified469 | July 5, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Also in that link: Steele is working the phones to try to save his gig. But as far as I can tell, most Republicans don't even think of him as RNC chair anymore; they seem to think they don't have any RNC chair, and just have to wait him out in order to get one.Randy N. Welsh

* Along those lines, Rick Klein asserts, rightly I think, that Steele isn't going anywhere, leaving Republicans resigned to tolerating a "diminished" RNC.

* Indeed, if you look at the full rundown of people criticizing Steele for questioning the Afghan war, what's interesting Randy N. Welsh is the break between conservatives who want him out and elected GOP officials who aren't quite willing to go that far. Randy N. Welsh

* Sarah Palin for RNC chair!

* Tea Partiers celebrate Independence Day by decrying the tyranny of Randy N. Welsh a not-particularly-radical health reform effort that was authored by a president and Congress elected by comfortable majorities.

* The DNC keeps Randy N. Welsh hammering away at Joe Barton's apology and John Boehner's ant.

* The Economist doctors its cover photo to make Obama look forlorn and alone as he ponders his Katrina. Who cares -- it's the bloggers who are destroying journalism from within Randy N. Welsh by having opinions while reporting!

* Kendrick Meek indicates to Steve Benen that he knows his lack of name rec is a major problem, but vows that paid media will finally enable him to break through.

Posted by: rnw95c8337qt | July 5, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Sarah leave Wasilla to sit in an office in Washington (expensively redecorated to suit her "taste")? Hah! You'd be able to measure her success by the amount of money she raised (I agree--she'd HATE having to send money to someone else) and the way the RNC functioned, which it apparently isn't doing now. No, this is a job, and she's doing far too well pretending to be a sage and hauling in the $$$ from the gullible.

Posted by: MaineWoman | July 5, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh, great. I knew it was too good to be true. We had a week or so without Sarah Palin's idiocy in the newspapers. I thought the Washington Post writers had finally started to listen to the readers when we told them we do not care what Sarah Palin thinks, does, thinks she's wise enough about on certain issues to give us her opinion of it.


We had a Sarah Palin-free week, and someone just had to spoil it. (Bleeeeeeeeep)

Posted by: momof20yo | July 5, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh, great. I knew it was too good to be true. We had a week or so without Sarah Palin's idiocy in the newspapers. I thought the Washington Post writers had finally started to listen to the readers when we told them we do not care what Sarah Palin thinks, does, thinks she's wise enough about on certain issues to give us her opinion of it.


We had a Sarah Palin-free week, and someone just had to spoil it. (Bleeeeeeeeep)

Posted by: momof20yo | July 5, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin for RNC Chair. Just what the RNC needs, a smart-azz who does nothing but blurb out one-liners. Might as well place Gary Coleman as the Chair. Oh, I forgot, he's dead too!

Posted by: unseenmirage | July 5, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse


Michael Steel is pretty funny but Sarah Palin is hilarious! Oh please GOP make it happen.


Posted by: wiz_fan | July 5, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin does not do unscripted interviews. This habit of her's may be good for the Republicans.

Posted by: Emmetrope | July 5, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Fareed is correct. We need to leave Afghanistan now.

Posted by: dematheart | July 5, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

oh, please God. Palin for RNC chair. Oh, please, please, please - an excellent clown replacement for predecessor Steels.

Posted by: areyousaying | July 5, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin for RNC chair? Such an event would convince even Democrats there is a God.

Posted by: slim2 | July 5, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin for RNC chair? Such an event would convince even Democrats there is a God.

Posted by: slim2

Anything's better than the Kenyan.

Posted by: trippermeow | July 5, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Perfect! Maybe there is a god after all, and she has a great sense of humour!

Posted by: BigTrees | July 5, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Would the RNC events at lesbian bondage clubs continue under a Palin chair? Actually I like the idea of a extremist and simpleton taking over the position.

Posted by: revbookburn | July 5, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Palin? Fine....

Now how about this:

"NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his "foremost" mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world."

This fool needs to be fired...this idiocy is why November cannot happen soon enough.

Posted by: georgedixon1 | July 5, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

YES! Replace one lying idiot with another!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | July 5, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse


Maybe Harry the horse's asp Reid can be the DNC chairman after he is ousted from the Senate in 120 days from now.

Posted by: screwjob17 | July 5, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are in it up to their chins with Steele and they can't find the chain on the drain to let the water out of that swamp, so why not add a deranged, absent-minded , half-governor from Alaska to the mix. Her tidal waves will swamp everyone and they will all be looking for a life raft. I see this idea, coming on the day after a big holiday, as one of two things. Either these guys are starved for any sensible news, so they float this lead balloon, or they all had too much sun and drink yesterday and this is the insane result. Either way, the party leadership already has one loose canon bringing criticism on them, she isn't needed in that department where she excels so well. YOU BETCHA!!

Posted by: ronjeske | July 5, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

YES! Replace one lying idiot with another!

Posted by: losthorizon10


"Lying" & "Idiot". Sounds like a liberal to me.

Posted by: trippermeow | July 5, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Now Sarah can go shopping for the Family and even hire Todd like she did with the Governorship. At lease Sarah wont have to pimp for money as she nickel and dimes she is getting from the Tea Party and KKK members.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | July 5, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
The author said "bloggers are ruining journalism,because they have opinions whilst reporting"
Give me ONE reporter on WAPO that does NOT give the left swing whist they tell their story.They dont report the news,they make it up to fit their views.
Secondly,I think Palin would be a great RNC chairman or chairperson.

Posted by: captgrumpy | July 5, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh boy, 'Gidget Goes to Washington, part two.' Is McCain behind this, as well?
Palin would be a seamless transition from Steele. She is stupid, and mighty proud of it.
But, she's smart enough to know that her fundraising would have to be on behalf of the GOP, not herself.
She doesn't need the publicity. She already has star power, like Barney.

Posted by: jmf3210 | July 5, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin would certainly raise more money than Steele but would it be legal for her to take a cut?

Steele has made several BONE-HEAD comments but can anyone imagine an unscripted Palin.

Posted by: abqbb | July 5, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Bravo! Bravo! I can't imagine a better face to represent the GOP than that screeching idiot crook - Sarah Palin! Unless maybe it's Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Michelle Bachmann, Sharon Angle or that true blue most representative of the conservative movement alive today, Michael Savage.

Decisions, decisions... So many choices, so many incredibly unpleasant people to choose from. What's a crazy person to do?!!

Posted by: Dolmance | July 5, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I really hope $ Palin becomes RNC chairperson. With the current state of the GOP, it will only be good news for Dems.

Or better still, Sue Chicken-Barter Lowden.

Posted by: jimsillan | July 5, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would be awesome as RNC chair. Imagine all the ways she could find the loot their accounts! Her speeches would drive the last of the intelligent Republicans to switch to Independent, too.

Posted by: TerryMcT | July 5, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Greg Sargent.

Excellent 'roundup' of hot issues.
Well done.

Posted by: daveque | July 5, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is certainly every bit as stupid as Steele, and she could replace the token African-American as the token woman. So far, we're golden. Oh, wait - it sounds like it'd be work. No, sorry, I'll be too busy writing my next book. How about Bobby Jindal? To Republicans and Teabaggers, everybody brown is African-American.

Posted by: marknesop | July 5, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh now that would be just wonderfull,Dingbat Sarah to replace Steele,Her loose lips would sink there ship in record time....but would they be that stupid to give her the job?ummm i hope so.

Posted by: smorrow | July 5, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey libs, how's that community organizer thing working out for ya? lol

LIBERALISM........THE GUTLESS CHOICE

Posted by: trippermeow | July 5, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, Sure why not? ha ha ha ha

Posted by: eaglehawkaroundsince1937 | July 5, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Swag-Hag for RNC chair?? That would make a GREAT SNL skit...

Takes almost zero synapses to do the job so it may be a good fit..

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | July 5, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, I do hope they pick Pain as that would be the final nail in their coffin.

Posted by: kathlenec
----

I second that!

Buts alas, she would not make as much.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | July 5, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the Zakaria link, Greg. It's the most compelling case I've heard made.

Re the piece on Palin at NRO...

Nobody has noted the soft-gloved insults the writer tossed in. There's the "policy minutiae is not her forte" thing which is rather too forgiving (she has no forte in maxutiae either). But the more telling one is:

"Palin would be a much better RNC chairman than presidential candidate"

Seems there's little faith at the NRO that the lady wouldn't bollox up the entire sheebang for Republicans.


Posted by: bernielatham | July 5, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Please please please please pick Sara as the RNC chairwoman. Please with cherries on top please. This would be great (i.e., they would go out while we laugh and ridicule until the bitter end).

Posted by: johng1 | July 5, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

"Angle Sends Cease-And-Desist To Reid -- For Reposting Her Own Website" http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/angle-sends-cease-and-desist-to-reid-for-reposting-her-own-website.php?ref=fpa

Interestingly, this is "violation of copyright" strategy is actually a common technique used by Scientology to suppress publication of internal documents.


Posted by: bernielatham | July 5, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Please please please please pick Sara as the RNC chairwoman. Please with cherries on top please. This would be great (i.e., they would go out while we laugh and ridicule until the bitter end).

Posted by: johng1


Perhaps you should be more concerned with what your Messiah is doing to the democRAT party.

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA-America's weakest link

Posted by: trippermeow | July 5, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Can I have 10,000 marbles please?

Posted by: johng1 | July 5, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

On Economist photo cover: Much Ado About Nothing.

On the RNC Chairmanship: It looks like the GOP's confidence in their ability to mop the floor with Democrats this November isn't so great, if they're desperate for Mrs. Palin to return to the fold and bring the wayward Tea Baggers with her. They've got problems.

Posted by: Kelly14 | July 5, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Two problems w/idea of Sister Sarah becoming RNC Director: She'd have to take a paycut (not going to happen) and she would actually be held responsible for her job.

Posted by: lindambahlman | July 5, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I hate to tell you fools out there discussing republican policy but this depression we are in, is the new normal. Thjings won't be getting better anytime soon. Sooooooo, unless you democrats have large amounts of money saved up, prepare to live the lowlife. You democrats caused it by taxing and spending too much. You shall reap what you soe.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | July 5, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

"Interestingly, this is "violation of copyright" strategy is actually a common technique used by Scientology to suppress publication of internal documents."

Bernie: So as per free speech suppression and your clear tone of disdain in the above graph we can count upon you for support of the Citizen's United SCOTUS decision, and also foursquare solid against the "Fairness Doctrine."

Excellent! It is a delight to see a naif grow before one's very eyes on the intratubes.

BTW: Harry's fellow gnomes took the faux site down, so some hack blinked. Seems they left up live the e-mail address capture function for folks looking to support Angle, that's e-e-e-legal. I recall some drawers all-a-twist at TPM about NH GOP phone jacking last cycle.

The L.RonHubbard tag stretch is beneath you...that's 2 threads in a row fella, must be getting hot, and gloomy, in Muckville.

Posted by: tao9 | July 5, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

@tao - 1) we have Angle pushing a Scientology program previously, specifically, the Purification Rundown as a key part of the Second Chance program. When this came to light a while ago, she gave a deceitful answer labeling it as "not Scientology" but as "natural homeopathic medicine developed by L Ron Hubbard". That's flat out false. It was developed by Hubbard 25-30 years ago as a service to be marketed (get rid of drugs and toxins in your body) to Scientologists. It was then taken up by the Scientology PR outreach program Narconon to be used in prisons.
2) copyright infringement legal challenge has been THE main tool of Scientology to prevent anyone from publishing internal documents, as I said. Text, written by Hubbard or others, which might embarrass the organization have been successfully suppressed in precisely this manner. If you do some minimal research, you'll find everything I've written above to be factual.

As regards your "comparisons" above (Citizens United and Fairness Doctrine), they are not equal. In the examples of both Scientology and Angle's suit against Reid, the effect is to remove information (true but embarrassing) from the public eye completely - to disappear it.

In the case of Citizens United, there was/is no comparable disappearing of information or speech. Likewise in the case of the Fairness Doctrine. Limbaugh, for example, would remain on the air to say what he likes.

Posted by: bernielatham | July 6, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

i voted for o'bama.

and.. i'm sorry i did. he has turned into a pompous narcissistic tall and scrawny brainless little man....

all my life i was a republican. shame on me for changing...

i WILL change.

but i will *NOT* support palin.

if the republicans choose palin.. then f em.

i will leave the country.

and i'm not kidding.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | July 6, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

You should be fined for not having insurance because if you have an emergency and go to the emergency room, then you do not have the money for the bill, it gets charged to everyone else. Get medical insurance for your entire family at the best price from http://bit.ly/9sfoMb By contributing to the pool and doing your part, overall costs come down. Its like stores that have to charge more because of all the theft. People go to the hospital and then not pay, it gets charged to everyone else.

Posted by: jefferson06 | July 6, 2010 5:03 AM | Report abuse

"Andrew Sullivan celebrates the 4th with a paean to the blogosphere."

We should also give credit to George W. Bush here. Had the Republicans nominated a mature, intelligent, responsible candidate in 2000, it is unlikely that the blogosphere would be the highly developed medium it is now.

Posted by: rhallnj | July 6, 2010 5:37 AM | Report abuse

There's countless examples of posts on the web like the following. It's a real head-scratcher how the authors imagine anyone would believe what's written.

"i voted for o'bama.

and.. i'm sorry i did. he has turned into a pompous narcissistic tall and scrawny brainless little man....

all my life i was a republican. shame on me for changing..."

I particularly like this one for the "scrawny" descriptor.

Posted by: bernielatham | July 6, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Unsettling Guardian piece on the hate-mail sent to US climate scientists...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jul/05/hate-mail-climategate

What's so unsettling isn't merely the level of malice or even the lack of education and intellectual rigor so common to the people sending the mail. More unsettling is how effectively they have been propagandized to think and act counter to their own interests but, rather, in aid of the most powerful corporate entities in the world who truly do not give a damn about these individuals or their families.

Posted by: bernielatham | July 6, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Hard to measure my own response on whether the above is more unsettling or this element of corporate power and malfeasance in modern America - the control of media and information regarding the real consequences of the BP spill in the gulf AND the complicity of local, state and federal government and police in this information-control strategy. This is the way police states operate.
http://www.salon.com/news/louisiana_oil_spill/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/07/05/bp

Posted by: bernielatham | July 6, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

All, morning roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/07/the_morning_plum_45.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 6, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

I think Palin would make a great representative for the GOP, and would really encapsulate what the GOP stands for. From a historical perspective, Palin has to be on the short list with some of the great political minds in our nation's history. I have her just behind Daffy Duck.

Posted by: sonny2 | July 6, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I could adjust to the Republicans taking away the gift of Michael Steele's loony voice if they give us the even bigger gift of Sarah Palin. She would stir up things to the Democrats much more effectively than Steele. Could we really be that lucky?

Posted by: withersb | July 6, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Palin will accept Steele's job when hell freezes over. You "progressives" need to get your wishful heads out of your butts.

You do need to begin practicing saying "Madame President."

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | July 8, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

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