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Sharron Angle flummoxes local press with "stimulus" non-sequitor

Here's the latest out of Nevada: Sharron Angle is getting attention for flubbing an answer involving job creation in a manner that raises questions about whether she grasps an enormously important local issue.

This is not going to get the sort of national coverage that attended her "slush fund" or "Second Amemdment Remedies" claims. But in a sense this kind of thing can actually be more important, since it more directly concerns a major local issue directly afflicting Nevada residents.

What happened was this: Angle, under fire for saying she disagreed with something Harry Reid did that saved a project involving thousands of local jobs, claimed that what she'd really meant to say was that she opposed the stimulus. The problem, as a flummoxed local reporter pointed out, is that the stimulus had nothing to do with the project in question.

The mess started last week when Angle was asked if she would have intervened in order to save MGM Resorts' City Center complex. The center suffered serious financial struggles last year during construction, and looked like it was about to go belly up. But Reid called several banks and got them to extend loans, helping the project avert bankruptcy.

Angle subsequently said on the radio that she wouldn't have stepped in. And later, she added that so doing would be "kind of like shifting the chairs on the Titanic." Given that Angle is already under fire for claiming that job creation isn't in a U.S. Senator's job description, these comments were obviously less than helpful.

Now Angle has tried to clarify these comments in an interview with the local Fox affiliate. She said:

"What I said on the radio is that I would not have voted for the stimulus for the City Center. And the reason is because what happened there was Harry Reid rewarded some friends at the expense of other businesses in town. Stimulus does not work and we've seen that with the unemployment rate going up."

But this project wasn't collecting any stimulus dollars. "There were no public dollars used for City Center," the Fox reporter rejoined, adding that what Reid "actually did was just pick up the phone and ask the banks to go ahead and loan some money that was needed in order to finish the construction [with] 22,000 jobs on the line."

Again, this kind of thing won't gain the national traction of her more lurid claims. But this sort of stuff is likely to get more attention from Nevada voters who might fairly ask themselves whether Angle grasps the basics of this hugely important local issue.

By Greg Sargent  |  July 12, 2010; 2:10 PM ET
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Harry Reid is hiding from the press and ducking interviews because he is a disaster in interviews like this. He is scared to debate Angle because he doesn't want to defend his record.

http://www.mynews3.com/category.php?id=5392&n=5035

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry - did you write that this was a FOX reporter who pointed out her inaccuracy?

How is it that a senator can simply call a bank and they will modify a multimillion dollar loan agreement?

Posted by: sbj3 | July 12, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

sbj -- yes, it was a Fox reporter. Credit where credit is due.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 12, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

It was clear in the radio interview that her point was that dollars for City Center would have likely been used to create jobs elsewhere had they not gone there. She then said the principle of stimulus applies the same way to the stimulus bill in Washington, dollars are just being shifted around.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

watch out greg, she's going to call you out for hitting the girl.

wow. no wonder angle is hiding out and only going to friendly venues. but even in those friendly venues she can't keep from screwing up.

i can't wait for the debates. all reid has to do is repeat her loony positions on social security et al and the 'second amendment remedies' remarks and ask if she still stands by them.

Posted by: blahgblogwordpresscom | July 12, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Local FOX reporter, not FOX News reporter.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 12, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Truthteller: Yes dimwit, that's how money works. Money spent in one place is not spent in another place.

You teabagggers are hilarious. Only a brain-dead Nevadan would vote for the nutbag Angle.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 12, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

To keep to teh bad Titanic analogies is it Sharron Angle's feeling that when it comes to jobs it is the responsibility of the US Senate to just be the band that continues to play as the country sinks.

She's on record that the US Senate doesn't/shouldn't create jobs - so what is she going to do as a Senator for the jobless situation? Just sit there in the corner and fiddle as Rome burns?

Posted by: zattarra | July 12, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

@Truthteller12 : Harry Reid is hiding from the press and ducking interviews

A little proof of this would make it more believable.

We have plenty of proof that Angle doesn't want to be interviewed by non fox/righwingnut media and even tries to keep the press away from her campaign stops.

We have plenty of proof that Angle wants to run far away from her stated positions during the primary, hence deleting the entire issues part of her website until it could be scrubbed clean of any "crazy" right wing stuff.

Why won't she either defend or renounce the positions she took in the primary?

Posted by: srw3 | July 12, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

She probably thought Fox would give her a softball interview, not realizing that local Fox affiliates don't follow the same conservative propaganda agenda as Fox News

Posted by: SDJeff | July 12, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

@tt12: t was clear in the radio interview that her point was that dollars for City Center would have likely been used to create jobs elsewhere had they not gone there.

You will have to cite chapter and verse where this is made clear in the interview. I found no hint of this parsing. Sounds like after the fact, rationalization, thought up by you or her handlers and not something that flowed from her words...

Angle on meet the press? This week? Face the nation?

Reid has certainly done enough appearances there. How long will the "run away" theory of media relations continue to fly for Angle?

Posted by: srw3 | July 12, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

@tt12: t was clear in the radio interview that her point was that dollars for City Center would have likely been used to create jobs elsewhere had they not gone there.

You will have to cite chapter and verse where this is made clear in the interview. I found no hint of this parsing. Sounds like after the fact, rationalization, thought up by you or her handlers and not something that flowed from her words...

Angle on meet the press? This week? Face the nation?

Reid has certainly done enough appearances there. How long will the "run away" theory of media relations continue to fly for Angle?

Posted by: srw3 | July 12, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse


Angle Rejects Political Makeover

http://www.lvrj.com/news/gop-s-angle-rejects-political-makeover-98190384.html

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

sorry for the double post

Posted by: srw3 | July 12, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad that Nevada Republicans resorted to nominating such an inept, weak-minded and super right wing individual for the U.S. Senate.

The choice between Angle and Reid is a no braniner. Even the majority of Republicans in Nevada are scared of what Angle will say and what she would do if elected. If she gets 30%-35% of the general election vote, she's lucky indeed.

Posted by: pchurchill32 | July 12, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

So, the real question is who knows the least of what they're talking about, Angle or Palin?

Posted by: mikefromArlington | July 12, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Greg where is the radio interview? You patted yourself on the back a couple days ago for providing context. So where is it? No context here whatsoever.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

@tt12: from your link...

"For example, she relaunched her website after scrubbing it of her more controversial positions, such as eliminating the Education Department and developing Yucca Mountain as a nuclear reprocessing site."

She can say that she is not changing her positions but her actions show that she is running as fast as she can from her pre victory primary website. I mean, why scrub a site if it was good enough for the primary. I can see expanding it, but not taking out key policy positions...


"[Angle has said] things such as wanting to "take out" Harry Reid in the same breath that she mentions that people angry at government have "Second Amendment remedies" available, or the right to bear arms."

"I don't say 'take out.' I say 'defeat.' It means the same thing."

Really? Really???

Posted by: srw3 | July 12, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Here is the exchange. She says, as clear as day, that she would not have done what Reid did -- and then discusses stimulus in a manner that raises serious questions about whether she understands this local issue. She made the same conflation in her clarification, too.


Caller: Harry Reid brags all the time about the jobs he saved in CityCenter. Would you have made that same call? Would you have saved CityCenter?


Angle: No, I would not. You know the reason is because he may have saved jobs in CityCenter, but he actually cost jobs in other parts of the city. And you know that as well as I do. The issue here becomes bailouts, right? And stimulus. We want something that is not going to bail out and stimulate, what we want is deregulate, lower taxes, give businesses some breathing room to do what they do best which is create jobs. And just shuffling these, if you will, the deck chairs on the Titanic is not going to solve the problem. And so shifting employment from one arena to the next is not going to solve the problem. What we really need is real jobs, permanent, full-time jobs with a future. And that can only be provided by the private sector, government does not provide jobs.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 12, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

There's no question that Harry Reid will get the votes of rational people.

Now, whether that's a majority or not in Nevada remains to be seen.

Posted by: dplionis | July 12, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid that Angle is right more times than not. Reid's policies have to be reversed before we have any job increase at all. Taxes have to be reduced before we can have any real jobs, and public jobs have to be cut, else we never will recover; but I suspect that is what Reid wants to get his world wide government, making us all slaves to the government.

Posted by: TimG4 | July 12, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Here response to the caller indicates that she is making the well known conservative argument against Keynesian economics. She may have made a mistake when speaking to press pool after the convention but the comments Gregg posted @3:09 above make perfect sense to me.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"Taxes have to be reduced before we can have any real jobs, and public jobs have to be cut, else we never will recover; but I suspect that is what Reid wants to get his world wide government, making us all slaves to the government."
--------------------------------
Please cut the stupid and we'll all be better for it.

Our tax burden is lowest it's been in decades. In our boom years when a man could feed his entire family without a needing a college degree, we had upper income taxes of up to 90% and we did just fine.

Being taxed is NOT equivalent to slavery! Universal health care is NOT equivalent to the holocaust!

Look at your paycheck from 2008 and one from 2010. Notice the tax rate is lower? Obama CUT your taxes (unless you're top 3%) and yet that's all the "tea party" ever whines about.

Go protest our socialist fire department or something.

Posted by: dplionis | July 12, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

"Taxes have to be reduced before we can have any real jobs ...." What nonsense.

Posted by: cmccauley60 | July 12, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Sorry "Her response"

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Angle: "What we really need is real jobs, permanent, full-time jobs with a future. And that can only be provided by the private sector, government does not provide jobs."

Ah, I see. The over-half of the discretionary budget that we spend on the military alone does not provide jobs. I'm sure the folks at Northrup Grummun and other contractors would agree, plus all the people who are actually serving.

"Stimulus does not work and we've seen that with the unemployment rate going up."

Of course the unemployment rate went up; that's what happens in a recession. The question is whether or not the rate would be even higher without the stimulus. The present rate alone tells us nothing about whether the stimulus was useful or not. So she seems incapable of even asking the right question.

I guess being Sharron Angle means never having to base your assertions in the real world.

Posted by: dasimon | July 12, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

truthteller: "it's just moving money around."

That's the DEFINITION of "economy."

Does the right understand that Homer Simpson is NOT a role model? Maybe they thought it was a PBS show.

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 12, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"Taxes have to be reduced before we can have any real jobs"

You sound as unknowledgeable as Angle. Employers aren't hiring because they don't need new workers, not because they can't afford to hire them. There isn't enough demand to justify new hires.

Trust me, CEOs aren't hurting for money right now. As has been pointed out, their tax rate is as low now as it's ever been. They want lower taxes so they can take home more, not so they can hire people to sit around doing nothing because no one's buying anything.

Small business owners have a harder time hiring, but again, if business was booming, they would hire people regardless of the tax rate.

Posted by: SDJeff | July 12, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"She may have made a mistake when speaking to press pool after the convention but the comments Gregg posted @3:09 above make perfect sense to me."

The inmates in an insane asylum all make sense to each other.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 12, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"The issue here becomes bailouts, right? And stimulus. We want something that is not going to bail out and stimulate, what we want is deregulate, lower taxes, give businesses some breathing room to do what they do best which is create jobs."

Thanks for posting that Greg, it's so clear she's learning as she goes, and doing a bad job of that. Who's been preparing Angle on her talking points? Palin? All they do is repeat teabagger buzzwords:

"Sharron, just say 'bailouts', 'stimulus', 'deregulation', 'lower taxes', 'let businesses do what they do best'...."

Posted by: SDJeff | July 12, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"dollars for City Center would have likely been used to create jobs elsewhere had they not gone there."

Sure, because in Las Vegas, a privately financed shopping/hotel complex run by MGM will never create "real jobs, permanent, full-time jobs with a future." I mean, who would ever use a hotel or a shop in Las Vegas? Do tourists go there? Do people have conventions there?

Clearly, helping to keep the flow of private cash during a short-term crisis so that MGM could finish building this tourist-friendly complex is the type of government involvement that starved Las Vegas of investment for the kind of real jobs that are at the core of its economy. You know, farming jobs and missionary work.

It would have been much, much, much better for the Senator to respond to a short-term squeeze by letting the project go bankrupt and the ginormous multi-billion dollar complex of buildings to sit unfinished in the middle of the Vegas Strip. That would have been the free-market thing to do, and that's what Sharron Angle would have done!

Because clearly, this hotels in Las Vegas stuff is all just busy work funded by the government. Like that volcano monitoring. Or inspections of oil rigs. Yep, government has no role in creating jobs.

Posted by: theorajones1 | July 12, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Republican Party platform in Iowa... Ed Kilgore writes:

I strongly suggest a reading of the Iowa Republican Party Platform by anyone who accuses "liberals" or "the media" of exaggerating the extremism of today's conservatives.

This 367-plank, 12,000-word document, adopted just last month at the Iowa State Republican Convention, is relentlessly kooky. Right up top, before the "statement of principles," the platform features a long, ominous quote from Cicero about "traitors." It's not made clear whether said traitors are Democrats, RINOs, or Muslims, but treason sure seems to be a major preoccupation for Iowa Republicans.

Once you get to the "statement of principles," it's hard to miss principle number seven, which would have satisfied Ayn Rand even on one of her crankier days:

"The individual works hard for what is his/hers. Therefore, the individual will determine with whom he/she will share it, not the government. No more legal plunder. Legal plunder is defined as using the law to take from one person what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong. It is plunder if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what that citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime."

Given that principle, it's not surprising that elsewhere the platform flatly calls for the abolition of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid (along with minimum wage laws), and of the federal departments of Agriculture (!), Education and Energy. It also appears to oppose any anti-discrimination laws of any sort."
more here - http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2010/07/unstable_platform.php#comments

Posted by: bernielatham | July 12, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm generalizing a bit, but the Reno and Las Vegas (two of the largest population centers in NV) economies are tourist-based. Thus, most of the jobs are service-industry type jobs. Well, guess what? The national recession has cut down on consumer/business disposable incomes/junket dollars. This fact has severely affected this tourist-based economic engine in NV. One of these days, when things get turned around nationally, NV will recover.

Posted by: dozas | July 12, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm... didn't know that Senators could make a few phone calls and tell a bank to
"save" a business. Not sure that's a good thing.
Its kind of like our government pressuring
Fannie and Freddie to give loans to people who couldn't afford to pay them!
I'm with Angle on this one.

Posted by: ohioan | July 12, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"didn't know that Senators could make a few phone calls and tell a bank to
'save' a business. Not sure that's a good thing."
-----------------------------
You're obviously not one of the 22,000 people who just had their job saved.

Posted by: dplionis | July 12, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

It's simple. Angle is mad that Senator Reid did what Senators are NOT supposed to do, create/save jobe. AND she's mad that he didn't use stimulus money to save those jobs because she's against the Stimulus. Piece of work.

Posted by: thebobbob | July 12, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

There's an epidemic of right-wing looniness spreading around the nation; it's not just Angle, alas.

Pennsylvania's Republican candidate for Governor has declared that unemployment insurance encourages the unemployed to be essentially lazy sots who, but for the insurance payments, would find jobs if they'd only get off their duffs.

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | July 12, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Did MGM get a "Friends of Harry" rate on that loan? Did Reid just tell the banks he'd cut their nuts off if they didn't make a bad loan?

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

(It's sequitur, not sequitor.)

Posted by: davideaston | July 12, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"I'm with Angle on this one."

Really ohioan? Because what you said is not nearly what Angle said. She said stimulus money and bailouts shouldn't be used to create jobs, she said nothing about pressuring banks to save businesses.

I don't know what Reid said to convince these lenders, but it is partly his job to do what he can to help the local economy create jobs, and it sounds like he did that. If he made an illegal promise or threat of some sort, that would be different, but I don't see any evidence of that.

Posted by: SDJeff | July 12, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Greg...

Next time you want to slam one of those stupid, illiterate, racist, nonsensical Tea Party members, howzabout you learn how to spell "sequitur" properly?

Posted by: melbanarberth | July 12, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"One of these days, when things get turned around nationally, NV will recover."

And so in the meantime, we should let a nearly completed multi-billion dollar project in a prime location rust? Let it become pigeon housing?

Seriously, this is going to hurt Angle not just because it shows voters how utterly empty she is once you get past the conservative slogans, but also because it's going to scare the hell out of business interests in Nevada.

I say we begin the countdown to her abandonment by the national party. My money is on Friday, Aug. 20. Let's see the Vegas odds.

Posted by: theorajones1 | July 12, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Dear TruthTeller,

Every time you open your mouth you embarrass yourself. It's self-evident that Angle is not competent to run for the United States Senate, and her comments regarding her criticism of MGM were patently absurd. The wonder of it all is that there are people out there with the time to engage you in argument.

Posted by: Maurice10 | July 12, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

All, my take on why the current Dem strategy to yell about GOP obstruction may be a non starter:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/07/how_do_you_make_rank_and_file.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 12, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget all the loony-toon claims that Angle and her people removed from her website AFTER she won the Republican primary, in order to re-invent her image as a lot less extreme. Fortunately this gem has been saved and reposted:
http://www.therealsharronangle.com

Read it and weep!

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | July 12, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Is Angle saying that she doesn't really understand what happened here? If she is so disconnected from something so vital to her constituents, Nevada will lose out. It's one thing to be the outsider, but another to not have a clue.

Posted by: valerie14 | July 12, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Cavuto just asked her about City Center and she made the same point I made @2:32 and that she made in Greg's post @3:09. She told Cavuto that she is quite aware that Stimulus bill money was not used for City Center. She knows exactly what she's talking about.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | July 12, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

http://www.bgladd.com/SharronMangle.jpg

Posted by: BGladd | July 12, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"Hey, Greg...

Next time you want to slam one of those stupid, illiterate, racist, nonsensical Tea Party members, howzabout you learn how to spell "sequitur" properly?

Posted by: melbanarberth | July 12, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse"

Yep, picking at a spelling error is really a persuasive response to the article. Nice try but no, nimrod.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 12, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"Cavuto just asked her about City Center and she made the same point I made @2:32 and that she made in Greg's post @3:09. She told Cavuto that she is quite aware that Stimulus bill money was not used for City Center. She knows exactly what she's talking about."

Child, please. She did not go on Cavuto until after she was told she was in error earlier. She knows nothing except how to walk back idiotic comments. She is really good at that.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 12, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the Iowa Republican Party platform, check out the one the Idaho Republican Party passed last month:

http://www.idgop.org/atf/cf/%7B09d3c7cb-a258-4cf2-a234-d740df06ecd1%7D/2010%20IDAHO%20GOP%20PLATFORM.PDF

It includes:
Abolishing the Federal Reserve and going back to gold and silver
Seizing federal lands within the state of Idaho
Repealing the 17th amendment
Limiting marriage to "naturally born" men and women (MacDuff, anyone?)

and finally
Requiring Republican candidates to swear in writing that they support all this, or else specify which aspects of it they don't support.

Posted by: idslfisher | July 12, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Just heard a clip on NPR "All Things Considered" of Arizona's Senator Jon Kyl parroting the unemployment insurance leads to laziness in job-hunting mantra of the extreme right. Just like Angle. It can win primaries, but independents and Democrats will be offended to the point of voting against them.

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | July 12, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"Cavuto just asked her about City Center and she made the same point I made @2:32 and that she made in Greg's post @3:09. She told Cavuto that she is quite aware that Stimulus bill money was not used for City Center. She knows exactly what she's talking about."

HAHAHHAAAA!!!! Thank you, that is the most I've laughed all day!

Why then did she even bring up the stimulus or bailouts? Because she's FOS.

Posted by: SDJeff | July 12, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Angle is like Palin, attacking anyone who dares question her ramblings, no matter how flawed or fallacious they are. That's "Mama Grizzles" for ya!

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | July 12, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

When I moved to Nevada I was excited at the prospect of having so many entertainment options on the Las Vegas strip.
Little did I know the funniest comedy show in the state would be acted out in the political pages.
That Angle is a hoot! (kook?)

Posted by: pakana | July 12, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Sargent's query is laughable: "...Nevada voters...might fairly ask themselves whether Angle grasps the basics of this hugely important local issue." As compared to Reid? HA HA! Reid lost his grip on We, the People of Nevada, 2 terms ago. Harry Reid doesn't represent us, he represents the FEDS, aka Big Government. It's exactly because of this kind of Mafia-style bullying ("Do this or else I'll sick the Feds on you, you little state bank!"), it has taken us this long to build public support to fire his butt once and for all. Reid has proven time after time that HE is out of touch with Nevada voters and the nation on local AND national issues, including immigration reform, health care reform, cap & tax, domestic oil exploration and jobs. Angle is correct, we know her here in northern Nevada, and she would never try to bully a bank into funding something that was financially unsound (uh, duh, there's a reason the project was going bankrupt... poor management is one reason). Reid's ploy was just an incompetent big political bully telling private business what to do. If the Feds hadn't forced banks to accept lousy credit risks for Freddie and Fannie, Nevada's housing market wouldn't be the worst in the nation... and Reid was a HUGE part of that! So from this Nevadan's POV, I'd say Angle is right on. But then, I'm the Reno Conservative Examiner... I listen to the people of Reno! http://www.examiner.com/x-28761-Reno-Conservative-Examiner

Posted by: RenoConservativeExaminer | July 12, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

conservatives always complain Reid doesn't do enough about employment, until he saves thousands of jobs at no cost to taxpayers and then they hammer him for saving jobs.

Posted by: SDJeff | July 12, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Real bright. Oppose job initiatives in her state. She's fast approaching Jan Brewer dumb. Or as Olbermann said, "This woman's an idiot." Hardly a surprise. After all, she IS a Tea Bagger.

Posted by: vztownes | July 12, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if you write your own headlines, but it's a "non sequitur," without a hyphen.

Kudos for "flummoxes," though.

/pedant

Posted by: jelitt | July 13, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I suppose he's right that Las Vegas might go for this, but why the Washington Post. MGM was owned by one of the richest men in the world for 40 years right up to within days of this back door bailout. Now they changed their name to MGM International. MGM is one of the Democrats biggest donors. They have so much debt they're still at risk for bankruptcy so these banks that were pushed to give them more money had reason to fear. So what is the government going to keep propping them up? A casino company? These jobs are low paying servant type positions that rely on tips. MGM also has a long history of corruption and ties to organized crime. In fact, they were forced out of New Jersey just a few months ago because of current Mafia ties. It used to be that the media provided this type of context. Obviously, the Democrats have a plan to paint Sharon Angle as a nut job and the media is doing most of the work by twisting what she says. Funny the Nevada papers seem to understand her though.

Posted by: frankp37 | July 13, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Adding to that, whoever claimed that casinos create jobs? I lived in the Detroit area when MGM opened up there and it had nothing to do with jobs. The number of jobs, this type of jobs, is trivial. It's tax revenue! Oh, but if the government is propping you up how can you be creating tax revenue? In Detroit right now MGM is providing tax revenue that is simply coming out of the banks that the government is bullying to lend to this company that has more debt than they have assets.

Posted by: frankp37 | July 13, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Truthteller12, calling yourself a truth teller, and continuing to spout the same gibberish that Sharron Angle does is akin to the former state of East Germany calling itself the German Democratic Republic, who proceeded to shoot anyone they caught crossing the wall. It is Orwellian doublespeak, & you expose yourself for the bridge-dwelling troll that you are.

Posted by: Stentor | July 14, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Greg, the tea party are people who can be summed up in one coherent thought. They are the trapeze artist hanging by a broken swing insisting that the roustabouts cut down the safety net.
I've always heard it said that a liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet, but I say that a conservative is just a liberal who hasn't been tased yet. These tea party members are people who don't believe that it can happen to them, & they will be both surprised as well as hurt when the government that they worked so hard to undermine will not come to their aid when they have something disastrous happen to them, hence my earlier analogy.

Posted by: Stentor | July 14, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

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