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Why GOP obstruction will benefit Republicans

I've been yelling about this for some time, so I'm glad to see that this perverse dynamic is starting to get more attention: It seems likely that GOP obstruction, far from being a liability to Republicans, will play in their favor, because voters may mostly blame the ruling party for government dysfunction.

As you know, more and more Dems have been arguing that Republicans are trying to tank Dem policies in order to ensure that the economy remains in the toilet, helping them this fall. But it goes further than this: Republicans will benefit not just from the struggles of the economy, but the perception of government's inability to help the afflicted, as evidenced by the GOP's blockade of an extension of unemployment benefits.

Steve Benen says there's little that can be done to fix this:

[T]here's not a whole lot to be done since, institutionally, we have a system that gives the majority power and gives the minority the ability to stop the majority from exercising that power. Bringing majority-rule back to the Senate would no doubt help, but that's not even on the table. An engaged, informed electorate, coupled with better political reporting from major media outlets, would make a huge difference, but that's nowhere in sight, either. A more moderate, pragmatic Republican Party would transform Washington, but so long as the GOP is rewarded for its extremism, that's a fanciful dream.

We're left with a political landscape in which voters to punish Democrats for Republicans' actions.

Kevin Drum adds that the problem is that the media reports GOP obstruction as merely a failure of the overall Congress, leading people to blame the party that runs the place.

It's worth noting that we actually have empirical evidence of this dynamic. Poll after poll shows that majorities think the GOP is more interested in obstructing the Obama/Dem agenda than in reaching a good faith compromise. Yet amid all the gridlock Congress's overall approval is at historic lows, and the generalized anti-incumbent fervor is expected to hurt Dems in the midterms. Indeed, in recent months the GOP has tied or bested Dems in the generic Congressional matchup.

Republicans will argue that this shows that the public wants the GOP to stall the Dem agenda. But I think something else is going on: People don't seem aware that the GOP, in addition to wanting to obstruct the Obama/Dem agenda, is successfully doing so in the Senate through the skillful application of fundamentally undemocratic procedural tricks. The press has largely failed to inform the public of of this fact, and when it does, people tune it out as so much Beltway white noise. Result: The GOP is paying no price whatsoever for obstructionism, and may well reap rewards from it.

By Greg Sargent  |  July 6, 2010; 10:54 AM ET
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Amazing. The GOP gets blamed when they are in the majority, and they get blamed when they are in the minority.

Posted by: sbj3 | July 6, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

And the worst part, of course, is that what the GOP has to offer as an alternative is a government that does not work by design.

This is like a company who comes into your neighborhood, expressly claims that "education does not work," and then takes over your schools.

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 6, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

And the Republicans will until the Democrats stop complaining about it and start doing something about it. It's not enough to have Republicans tank unemployment extensions by taking 3 votes in an 8 week period of time. Make them take the vote every day, don't recess Congress and show the American people who is fighting for what.

Yeah, good media to create an informed electorate is not happening anytime soon unless steps are taken that even our inept traditional media has to notice. Making Republicans vote no day after day, week after week with no recess and no breaks on popular issues might even make traditional media notice something is going on they might want to share with their viewers/readers.

Posted by: zattarra | July 6, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

How about putting this on billboards all across the country:

"The press has largely failed to inform the public of of this fact"

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 6, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I say vote them in. It may be Machiavellian, but I think America needs to get a LONG taste of what extremist Republicanism will do to them and the country as a whole.

I did the same thing in Virginia, voting for Ken Cuccinelli. And his batsh|t craziness hasn't disappointed. Letting in the tea-party republicans in November will probably hasten the party's demise, and hopefully leave the moderates still standing.

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | July 6, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

@Ethan:

"How about putting this on billboards all across the country:

"The press has largely failed to inform the public of [just about anything]...

Posted by: msmollyg | July 6, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans have known this since the 2008 elections and have played it brilliantly. The political advisors to the President seem to be under the delusion that people will hold the Republicans' obstruction against them at the ballot box. The story is not GOP obstruction, it's the fact the unemployed (like me) and our families are being hung out to dry while the Democrats appear to be utterly clueless and powerless.

Posted by: mikemfr | July 6, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

At least some of the disapproval of the Congress comes from the Left, from Dems (like myself) who are disgusted at the antics of the Blue Dogs. I'd say the fall-off in donations to the DCCC and especially DSSC stems from disgust at the likes of Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson. She is up for reelection and sure to get lots of dough from the DSSC. That's why I now give only to candidates directly and not to the committees.

Posted by: Mimikatz | July 6, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Democrats bear some responsibility here in terms of framing and messaging. Going back to Jan-Feb 2010 they could have consistently hit on this theme. The pounding would have helped to create a narrative which:

1. Would have forced the GOP to re-calibrate and cooperate on key measures.

2. Barring that, it would have clarified the extent of GOP obstruction had the GOP refused to re-calibrate.

Since it's the summer, most of the messaging right now isn't going to sink in -- people aren't paying attention. It's going to be a challenge to start with this kind of message after Labor Day. Two months and a few days is a short-time to hammer home a theme. Regardless, it's what the Dems need to do. Every time there's an interview, Dems need to highlight this theme. They need better message coordination.

Posted by: JPRS | July 6, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Mimikatz, that's a fair point that doesn't get reported on a lot. There are a lot of liberals who are dissatisfied with moderate and centrist Democrats. Weren't there some pretty damaging reports of possible voter fraud in the Lincoln/Halter race? Or something along those lines? There were some sketchy things happening in a couple of polling places in Halter-friendly areas.

Politically, a GOP win in November may be good for Obama in 2012 as he can pit himself as the pseudo-outsider battling pro-business Republicans, but I'd rather not wait that long for decent unemployment benefits, environmental regulations, etc.

Posted by: dkp01 | July 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

mimi, right on. I would suggest that it's a good idea to respond to their fund raising pleas with a clear message: as long as you support blue dogs like Blanche you won't get a cent from me.

Period.

Posted by: BGinCHI | July 6, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"The press has largely failed to inform the public of [just about anything]..."

The only thing of note that the press has informed the public on is the Tea Parties and how they are going to be our new masters in government.

It truly is sickening the power that the corporate elite has over America.

Money is the only thing that matters in the world.

America doesn't matter. People don't matter. "Doing the right thing" doesn't matter. Being right on the facts doesn't matter. Health and well-being doesn't matter. Pollution doesn't matter. Culture doesn't matter. Having a fulfilling life doesn't matter.

NOTHING matters, only MONEY.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 6, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Ethan2010, did you see the article today where the Post decided a normal July 4th-oriented car commercial (like what we see every year) was suddenly a Tea Party special ad? Everything is the Tea Party now. I am currently drinking a cup of tea; I must be a member of the Tea Party.

Posted by: dkp01 | July 6, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

How many seats do the Repukes/Fruitcakes have to pick up to take over the US House? Something like close to 40? Won't happen. I don't care what meme the MSM sings.

Posted by: DMDunkle | July 6, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

@DMDunkle:

I agree. Democrats will likely not lose 40 seats. It will be closer to DOUBLE that:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/04/14/how_bad_could_2010_really_get_for_democrats_105152.html

Posted by: pmendez | July 6, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Holy comment moderation, Batman!

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | July 6, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I predict the Dems will panic between now and November and do exactly the opposite of what needs to be done. They should be running on things like a strong jobs bill, ending the filibuster, adding a medicare buy-in or public option to HCR, bringing the troops home from Afghanistan and moving from COIN to an anti-terror strategy, carbon caps etc. Instead they'll run on deficit reduction and tout weak reforms trying to win a few votes from conservative voters. They've already pissed off the unions and a portion of their grassroots base so they'll move to the center to try and pick up some indies. Good luck with that.

I'll keep fighting though for better candidates and policy, as we all should.

Posted by: lmsinca | July 6, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

All, check out this amazing poll showing that Tea Partiers' concerns are identical to those of Republicans:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/07/poll_tea_partiers_concerns_are.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | July 6, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"did you see the article today where the Post decided a normal July 4th-oriented car commercial (like what we see every year) was suddenly a Tea Party special ad"

I did.

Utter Garbage.

But hey, as long as SOMEBODY is making money off of America and Americans that makes it okay, right? Lady Liberty is everybody's wh0re. It's just first-come-first-serve. What's that? Not everybody is interested in raping the American dream? Oh, they must be a Democrat or a fool. I think it's time we Dems get with the program and bow down to our corporate masters regardless of how pathetic our country has become.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 6, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Of course, the risk to a campaign run on the other party's incompetence makes certain that you'd better get it done. Otherwise, you've also got an issue with your credibility.

We're waiting, Mr. President, on:
--unemployment reduction
--measurable progress on ending the wars
--closure of Gitmo
--finance reform
and a public butt-kicking of BP.

I think many Americans think you have the right ideas. But you have to execute now.

Posted by: bitterblogger | July 6, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

A good rule to follow in politics is, "never count on the media to do your job for you."

Democrats have a good case to make that Congressional Republicans are only interested in gaming the system with an eye toward this year's elections. They're not making it. Instead, they're blaming the system or blaming the media.

Democrats are also not coming to grips with the kind of recession we're dealing with. It's not a cyclical phenomenon; there are not any silver policy bullets that will "get the economy moving again" anytime soon. Voters suspect this, but won't reward politicians for good-faith efforts to grapple with the struggling economy until they understand it. The trick, of course, is that attempts to help them understand it will not pay electoral dividends in the short run. Under the old rules, delivering bad news is a mark of pessimism, and therefore unpopular. But, under the old rules Democrats get clobbered this November anyway -- even though the other side held power in Washington for years before the financial collapse of 2007-08, and left with office with the recession well underway.

Posted by: jbritt3 | July 6, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

@sbj3: Amazing. The GOP gets blamed when they are in the majority, and they get blamed when they are in the minority.

A pretty pedantic comment since, from your previous comments, I know that you understand why this is so.

Dems didn't like much of what Bush proposed, but THEY DIDN'T FORCE CLOTURE VOTES AT EVERY POINT IN EVERY POLICY DEBATE. They voted against the substance of the measures, but did allow most of the policy initiatives to get reasonably prompt votes.

The republicans, OTOH, HAVE FORCED MULTIPLE CLOTURE VOTES ON ALMOST EVERY POLICY INITIATIVE THAT THE DEMS HAVE PUT FORWARD.

The republicans have, OTOH, prevented votes on dozens of nominees for almost 2 years by denying unanimous consent to allow these appointment votes onto the floor. When these nominees actually get votes, THEY ARE USUALLY APPROVED ON VOICE VOTES OR BY FILIBUSTER PROOF MAJORITIES. This just demonstrates the naked obstruction of the republicans. Force an appointee to wait for over a year, for no apparent reason, and then confirm them on a voice vote.
sbj3, you know better than to post such transparent nonsense.

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Not to take anything away from you Greg - you've done yeoman's work on keeping this front and center - but it's not like it's anything new.

The GOP strategy of bankrupting government with reckless spending and tax cuts while in office, then getting the vapors about deficits when their policies inevitably cause destruction for the majority of voters and they're kicked out of office, has been going on for at least 30 years now. It's the long con, and it will continue so long as 1) voters have attention spans of less than several days and 2) Democrats continue to dither about painting the picture.

Remember Reagan's "tax cuts"? You know, the ones where everyone's income taxes went down, and then a year or two later, FICA taxes for everyone but the rich went up over and above the amount of the income tax reductions? They've been playing this bait-and-switch game for a long, long time now - and it continues to work, because their feckless opponents refuse to fight back. I mean, Democrats COULD run ads showing Bush from 2000 talking about how running budget surpluses is a problem, juxtaposed with current Republican concern trolling about deficits. They COULD run ads showing Cheney saying "Reagan proved deficits don't matter". There's an entire historical treasure-trove of Republicans saying things that were wildly false or wrong in public - up until the very day voters kicked them out on their keisters in 2006/2008 that could be counterpoised against what they started saying THE VERY NEXT DAY. Deregulation. Supply-side economics. Tax cuts for rich people helping everyone. Tax hikes on rich people "destroying" the economy. You name it, and they've been WRONG about it.

But most people won't know it unless someone bothers to point it out to them - preferably in an easy-to-digest 30 second ad spot.

Posted by: JennOfArk | July 6, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

@sbj

"Amazing. The GOP gets blamed when they are in the majority, and they get blamed when they are in the minority."

I'm in 100% agreement with you on this one...it IS amazing how they can screw up the country from either position.

@Greg

Isn't it fun how the "profressional" journalists are always months behind the bloggers in their pjs?

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | July 6, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Greg, did you just criticize the Republican Party?

You're fired.

Posted by: MarcusBrauchli | July 6, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Please_Fix_VAs_Roads @ July 6, 2010 11:09 AM wrote "I say vote them in. It may be Machiavellian, but I think America needs to get a LONG taste of what extremist Republicanism will do to them and the country as a whole."

I appreciate the sentiment. But 12 years of Republican control of the Congress, coupled with 8 years of a Republican President drove us to bankruptcy. If that is not enough to show the country what a disaster Republican 'governance' is, then we, as a country, deserve what we get.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | July 6, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

This article ignores the obvious.

If you believe in limited GOvernment, you want the GOP to block new Government spending programs, taxes, borrowing and regulation.

For once, the GOP is doing exactly what the voters in their districts elected them to do.

The GOP gets in trouble when they forget they were elected to block Big Government's expansion and intrusion into our lives. That might not get them elected in a heavily Democrat district, but its popular with their constituents.

Posted by: jfv123 | July 6, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Amazing. The GOP gets blamed when they are in the majority, and they get blamed when they are in the minority.

Posted by: sbj3
========================
DUDE what is it you do not get...?
CRAP is still CRAP..

Oh wait you like CRAP!
You voted for Bush Twice..

Posted by: godwithfire55 | July 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

@jfv123: If you believe in limited GOvernment, you want the GOP to block new Government spending programs, taxes, borrowing and regulation.

Wasn't this the program that got us the financial meltdown, doubling of the national debt, deficit spending for wars of choice, continually putting war funding off the budget to make the deficit appear smaller, spiraling deficits, lack of meaningful regulation enforcement on the oil industry, etc. ie Isn't this the Bush prescription that got us to where we are now?

"they were elected to block Big Government's expansion and intrusion into our lives. "

This is the same party that conducted illegal wiretaps, covert searches and surveillance of American citizens, radically expanded presidential power to imprison US citizens without access to the legal system, makes the private use of a plentiful herb a federal crime, and tries to criminalize private medical decisions. How is this not "government intrusion into our lives?"

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

jfv123 loves him some oil spills, bank depressions, corporate influence over elections...

MONEY + POWER = The "New" FREEDOM!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 6, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

GOP extremism?

Is it extreme to oppose a healthcare bill that:

1. The majority of Americans opposed according to every major poll

2. Forces Americans against their will to purchase health insurance on themselves under penalty of fine

3. Forces businesses to insure workers or pay a fine, as though businesses are in business solely to provide security to their employees

4. Force states to accept new Medicaid patients-18 million estimated-and pay these new healthcare costs with state taxes that aren't even figured into the cost of this healthcare bill when projecting its expenses

Is it extreme to push for defending our border with Mexico against the illegal flood of Mexicans and the violence that kills, kidnaps and injures Americans. We're are fighting a war thousands of miles away. Why is it extreme to ask the same army to protect our own border with a violent country?

Is it extreme to question our president as to why he instructs his head at NASA to work to improve the self worth of Muslims around the world by convincing them of their contributions to science, math, space? How does that benefit Americans?

Is it extreme to oppose the seemingly out of control running up of our national debt to the current 91% of GDP, or at the rate of $1.75 trillion per year. Next year our national debt will ratio at 100% of GDP.

Is it extreme to question a president who promised "transparency" during his campaign to get elected to the office, yet passed a major piece of legislation that will affect generations of Americans by condoning such legislative chicanery as threats to Deem & Pass, Reconciliation, back room deals like the Cornhusker Kickback, the Louisiana Purchase, and the attempted Medicare buy in? Why is it so extreme to vomit in disgust at this law making treachery?

What would you do to defend your family?

What would you do to defend your country?

Posted by: bbwk80a1 | July 6, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have set AND broken their own records for annual filibusters, but most Americans do not know or care. whats likely to happen, is that the Rebublicans will win a small majority this year, and if the Dems are smart, and take a page from the Right playbook, they will filibuster EVERY piece of legislation the Repulicans introduce, then the voters will turn on the Republicans. Rinse, lather, repeat....

Posted by: emoenergy1 | July 6, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I had a coworker just yesterday state that Obama doesn't want the oil gusher to be plugged, that he wants to keep getting the money from it. I started to ask her what money? But when you make a statement like that you obviously don't get your news from informed sources. So why would you care about the truth?

It's so sad to see that people cried for a third party and now we have it. We have the Party of Hopes, the Party of Nopes and the newest one, the Party of Dopes! God help us all!

Posted by: AverageJane | July 6, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the liberals have a whole whine-a-thon going on here. How so very unique!!

Just a couple of points; first, sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Mr Sargent is a hyperpartisan who should not be anywhere near a general circulation publication because he just can't seem to remember important facts. Like, oh say, the behavior of the Democrats when they were in the minority. Much of what the Republicans are doing now they learned from some of the nastiest partisans in the business. No doubt Teddie Kennedy would smile at this were the devil not keeping him so busy in hell.

next, the underlying theme here is that the Republicans should compromise with the Democrats and thus allow the nation to lurch even further to the left.

Given the uncompromising nature of the Democrats when they held the minority, why should the republicans behave any differently now?

Another underlying theme is Sargent's fervent belief that these liberal nostrums are good for what ails us. What if Republicans and their supporters disagree Greg? Are we supposed to go along anyway so that people like you won't whine?

Whine on son. It is music to this conservative's ears.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | July 6, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Overall, Republicans have not governed responsibly, nor served in the minority responsibly, since Reagan. No wonder the government is not dealing with a myriad of issues. It is pitiful that the Democrats don't have the courage of conviction and mount a stronger effort to legislate for the common good.

Posted by: peter777 | July 6, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

bbwk80a1, yes, you are an extremist.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 6, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, it's not just the big media outlets. From an email appeal that just came out from MoveOn.Org:

"But instead of helping those who are out of work, Congress just went on vacation without extending unemployment benefits. That means 2 million Americans are losing a desperately-needed source of support because of Congress' continued failure to act."

Not a word about Republicans and Blue Dogs in the whole thing, just "Congress."

Posted by: jimeh | July 6, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

the republicans say they don't want to drive up the national debtthen why did they take a 7 day holiday for fourth of july.Why dont they give back thier checks so it could go against it.They dont care about the hard blue collar workers in america all they care about is big business which they own or have stock in.the hard working people will remember them come election time.they need to take care of the peole here and quit worring about the people in other countries.They like to start wars without worring about national dbt but dont wnat to help our people.power to the bluecollar people. vote for democrates come election or the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.this ploy by the gop is going to back fire in thier face.the people with jobs need to vote democrate while they still have jobs before the rich gop outsoures thier jobs overseas so they can make more money because they are so greedy!vote democrate and keep america great.

Posted by: chrisonpumkinvine | July 6, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Did I read this right? The Republicans are playing procedural tricks? This coming from the party of "deeming" and using dirty tricks to force obamacare down our throats. Talk about a lack of credibility!

The Democrats had a super-majority and failed to pass any useful legislation. That's after wasting time and money doing nothing during President Bush's last 2 years (they claim) out of fear of his veto pen.

The Republicans had offered plans to extend unemployment payments that did not include the teacher's union payback so the Democrats refused to consider it.

The public is not nearly as stupid as the libs in Congress seem to think. They didn't like the dirty tricks this administration has played, the obvious government takeovers of industries, and the continuous union paybacks. And rest assured, we'll remeber in November!

Posted by: cathyjs | July 6, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

the republicans say they don't want to drive up the national debtthen why did they take a 7 day holiday for fourth of july.Why dont they give back thier checks so it could go against it.They dont care about the hard blue collar workers in america all they care about is big business which they own or have stock in.the hard working people will remember them come election time.they need to take care of the peole here and quit worring about the people in other countries.They like to start wars without worring about national dbt but dont wnat to help our people.power to the bluecollar people. vote for democrates come election or the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.this ploy by the gop is going to back fire in thier face.the people with jobs need to vote democrate while they still have jobs before the rich gop outsoures thier jobs overseas so they can make more money because they are so greedy!vote democrate and keep america great.

Posted by: chrisonpumkinvine | July 6, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

the republicans say they don't want to drive up the national debtthen why did they take a 7 day holiday for fourth of july.Why dont they give back thier checks so it could go against it.They dont care about the hard blue collar workers in america all they care about is big business which they own or have stock in.the hard working people will remember them come election time.they need to take care of the peole here and quit worring about the people in other countries.They like to start wars without worring about national dbt but dont wnat to help our people.power to the bluecollar people. vote for democrates come election or the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.this ploy by the gop is going to back fire in thier face.the people with jobs need to vote democrate while they still have jobs before the rich gop outsoures thier jobs overseas so they can make more money because they are so greedy!vote democrate and keep america great.

Posted by: chrisonpumkinvine | July 6, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

@ss28:Like, oh say, the behavior of the Democrats when they were in the minority. Much of what the Republicans are doing now they learned from some of the nastiest partisans in the business.

Well, this is simply false. Look at the numbers of cloture votes the repiglicans have filed and forced vs any other senate session. They have doubled the last record which was held by the repiglicans from 2006-8. False, false, false. SS28 is just lying about the facts...

Does ss28 really believe that policy debate is impossible in the legislative branch and each side should just obstruct the other?

"Given the uncompromising nature of the Democrats when they held the minority, why should the republicans behave any differently now?"

I wish this were true. We might not have attacked and invaded Iraq if the dems had shown some uncompromising nature in insisting that the rationale for the invasion be truthful and give appropriate weight to the evidence for and against invasion. It would have been nice if the dems had shown some uncompromising nature in insisting that a fully thought out reconstruction plan be in place before the invasion.

It would have been nice if the dems had shown some uncompromising nature and insisted that war funding be fully paid for and not put on the national credit card.

It would have been nice if the dems had shown some uncompromising nature in insisting that tax cuts be paid for and not just add to the deficit.

In fact, the dems repeatedly compromised with the bushies on abandoning Afghanistan after the initial victory, invading Iraq, exploding the deficit by passing unpaid for tax cuts, allowing the national security state to spin wildly out of control, etc.

It is the shame of democrats that they didn't stand up against the truly insane fiscal and foreign policies of the bushies.

Of course, the bushies, ruthlessly cast any notion that there should be an open, fact based debate on any of the national security issues as a treasonous offense, made asking serious questions about these insane policies into political suicide for dems.


Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

cathyjs,

Go read a book or do some research online.

Stop posting here unless you are able to post something that even remotely resembles the truth.

Your ignorance is PAINFUL.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 6, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"Whine on son. It is music to this conservative's ears.

"Posted by: skipsailing28 | July 6, 2010 1:52 PM"

Were you talking about your post, because whining is pretty much all you did.

Must suck for you that the vast majority of voters don't agree with how the GOP and Bush Jr cratered our country, busted our treasury, gave a free pass to the perpetrators of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, used flat-out lies to invade and occupy Iraq-a stupidity that weakened our military-and trashed our Constitution during the years they held all the levers of power on Capitol Hill.

But keep on with the hissy fits, no doubt they'll provide a filibuster proof majority for the Repubs in both the House and Senate.

Posted by: kingcranky | July 6, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

srw3, your comment to me do not merit a reply. When you can manage a conversation without name calling and invective, get back to me.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | July 6, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

srw, he is a TROLL who posts BASELESS GARBAGE and will never be intellectually honest. You may as well debate a dining room table.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | July 6, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Republican are the true anarchists. Keep anything from happening and, in the chaos, take over. Then, when in power, deconstruct the govt. to the point that it falls part at the seams. By that time its time for the Dems to take over again and you start the process all over again.

The Dems have to grow a spine and take back their party from the neo-Republican Blue Dogs and other posers in their ranks and finally tell the Republicans that they will have to filibuster their white a$$es off on every vote they want to block. Change the rules if you have to. Show the people who put you there that you can push back, punch back, and even gouge some eyes out if you have to! Just do it for crying out loud!

Posted by: atroncale1 | July 6, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

As far as I am concerned, as a veteran of a war, the GOP is run by traitors, arm-chair patriots who sit on their arses, and let others do the shooting for them. And now, they don't give a damn about the little guy in economic hard times, as they get rich. Lousy bastards -- and the uneducated masses fall for it everytime.

Posted by: alamo2 | July 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"voters may mostly blame the ruling party for government dysfunction". So Limbaugh and Beck were right? most American voters are stupid?

Posted by: raschumacher | July 6, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Skipsailing28: SRW's reply to you was accurate, free of personal attacks and remarkably respectful considering how counterfactual (aka a series of lies) your original posting was.

But hey, it's a lot easier to accuse folks of namecalling and invective and refuse to engage further than it is to admit you misrepresented the facts, isn't it?

Posted by: DCSteve1 | July 6, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

@ethan: I know, but its so hard to decline to expose his hackery.

@ss28: I didn't call you any names. You lied about dem obstruction and I called you on it. I did use the term repiglican to describe the southern rump party in the US, but I didn't aim that name at you (but if you are a republican, I would be happy to read your defense of the Bush years). I apologize if you were offended by this. I don't believe in argument by name calling. Your post, however, is in fact false in the ways I point out. Feel free to dispute the facts that I presented about republican obstruction and democrat acquiescence during the bush reign of terror in the face of the bush policy of smearing opponents with the "You are either with us (the republican march to invasion of Iraq) or you are with the terrorists" (even though Iraq had nothing to do with 911 or Al Qaeda.

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

You have a base following. It consists of rude, conservative-bashing children who consistently use your articles as a forum for their hateful comments. I think that it is time for you to join your colleague at msnbc.

Posted by: bethg1841 | July 6, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

@bethg1841...no one is forcing you to read the blog. If you don't have actual substantive arguments to make about the topics posted, feel free to lurk, but don't bother posting about how shallow the postings are when you provide nothing of substance yourself.

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

The most salient message in this commentary is this:

"The press has largely failed to inform the public of of this fact,..."

I think that should have been the headline. The failure of the press to clearly report what is actually happening borders on malpractice. I have yet to see or hear a responsible analysis or a systematic coverage of the nature, methodology and impact of Republican obstructionism.

I think journalists should feel shame at this failure.

Posted by: pbkritek | July 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The Dems have complete control of Congress and the White House.

If they can't get their agenda passed with that much political muscle they never will.

Stop whining about the Republicans.

They are only able to successfully obstruct the Dems agenda because it is hugely unpopular with the American people as a whole.

The Obama agenda is only popular with the 20% of the population that self-identifies as Liberal.

The other 80% are luke warm or fiercly against it.

That's where the GOP draws it's power to obstruct from.

Do you think they'd be able to obstruct if 80% wanted the Obama agenda, not to mention Dem control of Congress and the WH?

The Dems are selling a product that 80% of America doesn't want.

That's their problem, not the sinister, all powerful GOP minority.

Posted by: drjcarlucci | July 6, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Not going to change until the Democrats develop some SPINE and stop folding every time the GOP goes "boo". The Filibuster works because Reid lacks the COURAGE to call the GOP on it and make them stand in the well and filibuster. Stop giving away the store hoping to get a GOP vote, since it's been clear to everyone EXCEPT Obama and Democratic so-called "Leadership" that the GOP is NOT going to support them.

Stupid Democrats. My dog is smarter than you.

Posted by: lmb02 | July 6, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Of course we blame the Republicans, and will show it next time we vote,alot of BS, from them, UI is a necesity,up to now, have 10's of thousands throughout the U.S.A., that will vote against the Republicans,no doubt.

Posted by: logistics_solutions | July 6, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

@drjcarlucci: The Dems are selling a product that 80% of America doesn't want.

That's their problem, not the sinister, all powerful GOP minority.

Another false meme.

The 41 Republican senators currently in the U.S. senate represent 36% of the U.S population and yet they can veto any action taken by the majority that represents 64% of the population.

What is even more perverse is the minorty's ability to stall the senate with procedural formalities that severely limit the amount of time that can be allocated to legislating and approving appointments. The repubs are basically trying and succeeding in running out the clock to try and prove that govt doesn't work.

In the house, the issue of allowing majority rule is much more straightforward and lots of progressive legislation has already passed the house.

The senate was a creation of convenience to sweeten the deal for the small states to join the revolution. The 60 vote or 67 vote supermajority was neither in the constitution or envisioned by the founders. It is an anachronism that needs to be significantly modified or just eliminated.

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I am always amazed at the disrespect and name calling that passes in the Post for discussion. It is all pretty much Jr. High type playground talk. If any of you would care to read thoughtful comments you really need to go to the NY Times. They either do not allow what goes on here, or the readers are a little more mature in their conduct.

Posted by: dalemerrell | July 6, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

That McConnell is a corpse but he is not as brain dead as all the other repukes. These are mentally and morally ill people. They are about to get violent too. They sure do miss the incompetence of that moron w.

Posted by: davidsawh | July 6, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Whine on liberals, whine on.

You made this bed, now lie in it.

the antics of the Democrats when they were in the minority haven't been forgotten by everyone. I certainly remember the way the Democrats acted.

now that the shoe is on the other foot the liberals are without answers. Oh well.

And when liberals are without answers, they turn to name calling. It is all they have. I understand that. After all for years they were able to shut up dissent by using the magical incantation of "racist!". Now that the spell has been broken (thank you for that Barry!) the American left is bereft.

Oh and how about a handy definition of troll: Anyone having the nerve to post something that Ethan2010 doesn't like.

Ethan, if you find my comments offensive, by all means report them to the powers that be. Absent that, why not try to post a cogent counter argument? You can do that, can't you?

And yes, I find the term "repiglican" to be typical of what passes for intellect among liberals these days. And I understand that. As I said if ad homs is all they've got, they will gladly use them.

and I'm glad that the Republicans are obstructing the Obama agenda. It is long past time that Americans stood up to the endless nonsense of the left. Just because America made a mistake in electing Mr Obama doesn't mean that the entire electorate is stuck on stupid forever.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | July 6, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

You guys didn't report it, but that is what the Dems did when Bush was prez. He saw a debacle coming and CONTRARY to the wishes of the Conservative branch of the GOP - tried to make Social Security sustainable and work on immigration. The Dems stopped it. They and the Main Stream Media beat them up for being a do-nothing group. (Actually, the Democrats believed in what "W" was trying to do, but didn't want him and the GOP to get credit for it.)
It worked ... Oh, goody.
"What goes around, comes around" ... or as it says it in the Bible ... Don't deceived. You can't trick God. The seed (actions and motives) a man plants determines the plant that will grow - and this rule works the same for everybody! So, Dems, belly up to the bar! It's time for you to harvest what you planted.
This brings a new thought out for Republicans and the Tea Party, with whom I somewhat identify (but not unqualified). Jesus also said, Think hard and consider carefully the actions you are about to take to gain power. Don't do things to other's that you consider unjust when the same is done to you."
All the actions you take are seeds planted and in time you will get to eat what you've been feeding to others. So choose carefully ... wisely ... kindly? You need not fear you will never regain power if you live by these rules.
You will, and you will actually have moral authority to govern, something that seems to be missing on both sides on the aisle on the national level.

Posted by: trevithick | July 6, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if I can speak for the Republican mainstream. But I know that, in the past, GOP voters have punished the party when moderate Republicans like Lincoln Chafee and Arlen Spector, plus Collins and Snowe from Maine, sided with the Democrats. We do not want nor need any members of Congress who help the Democrats pass their agenda. Whatever slows the spending and the growth of government is good.

Also, it might annoy Democrats to hear this, but they were entirely obstructive from 2001 until 2007, after which they were in the majority and got their own way most of the time. So the Dems have no room to criticize anyone for using the same strategy against them.

Posted by: JBaustian | July 6, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

In a sense, the Democrats are to blame, too. The two-thirds vote is accepted by which ever party is in power, and until the democratize the Senate, it will remain our own version of the House of Lords or the Canadian Senate.

Posted by: jgmayne | July 6, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Amazing: The Democrats get blamed when they are in the majority and also when they are in the minority. They get blamed when the accomplish anything or when they can't accomplish anything. Who exactly gets any benefit in our country through all of this pointless acrimony from both sides?

Posted by: alika | July 6, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Good news, Skipsailing28. I took you up on your excellent suggestion to report you for abuse of the site. Here's the e-mail I just sent to the moderator:

"This individual repeatedly posts demonstrably inaccurate and intentionally misleading 'facts.' He then attacks in abusive terms anyone who posts accurate factual rebuttals and claims they have attacked him. He should be permanently banned from posting any material anywhere on the W. Post site, at least until he learns basic rules of civility and fair play."

With any luck, we'll soon be spared any more drivel from you.

Posted by: DCSteve1 | July 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

If Republicans retake Congress this fall, Obama will be free to concentrate exclusively on foreign affairs because he will 100% unable to get anything at all through Congress.
Republicans will pass bills to eliminate as many taxes as they can on themselves and their sponsors. They will pass a bill to repeal health care. They will pass a bill to continue to reduce paying for Medicare. They will try to privatize Social Security and turn it over to Wall Street.
Obama will veto every single one of these things and sweep back into office in 2012 because our people will be so desperate to get help from the government they elected to help them that it will be a landslide. And, God willing, the final nail in the coffin for this generation of Republicans.

Posted by: cms1 | July 6, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010 said ...The only thing of note that the press has informed the public on is the Tea Parties and how they are going to be our new masters in government.

It truly is sickening the power that the corporate elite has over America.

Whaaat?
Nobody is sending money to me or anyone I know and I am a supporter of the stated goals of the Tea Party Protests.
Is it impossible for you to believe that we are just people who want the same thing our forefathers wanted? Limited Government. Laws based on the Constitution and nothing else! You know the Constitution, right? It's the short, easy to read document that we base our unity on. We are going to get back to what it says, too. Or we aren't going to have unity any more, comprende' amigo? You liberals have twisted the meanings until our laws don't resemble anything like the Constitution and it's limits on the Authority of Government. Things like Freedom of Conscience, Association, Speech, and the Right to NOT be deprived of our Property EVEN IF a Spotted Owl flies over it from time to time?! The original idea behind these concepts are still worth fighting for.
No, you say, it's really all money. It's secretly funded by corporations and the crowds are either dupes or devious devotees of the dangerous concept called FREEDOM.
Ethan, You guys are a piece of work!
Too bad you have never known someone who is willing to stand their ground for conscience sake, who cannot be bought off.

Posted by: trevithick | July 6, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

@ss28:

I notice that you have no counter arguments and in fact agree that "the Republicans are obstructing the Obama agenda" instead of trying to actually govern the country in a responsible way, or offering any alternatives beyond tax cuts, deregulation, Christianist Taliban social policies, and militarism.

I also assume that you accept that this senate has seen more than double the number of cloture votes of any minority dem senate and is only rivaled by the 2006-2008 republican minority senate in the # of cloture votes.

Since you did not address it, I assume you agree that the dems (much to their collective shame) acquiesced to many of Bush's policy initiatives and didn't relentlessly block every initiative with multiple filibusters.

In fact, it looks like the congressional republicans are just sore losers and would rather kill effective government than admit that they have no answers to the country's many challenges.

Just wondering how you can support republican policies after they doubled the national debt (adding more than all previous presidents combined) with unpaid for-- tax cuts for the wealthy, 2 wars, and medicare d?

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have been successfully using this tactic for more than 20 years.

Why are we still surprised?

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

Posted by: CaroKay | July 6, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

When my children felt that they were entitled, I sometimes had to tell them "no". I was not "obstructing". If we couldn't afford it, we didn't buy it.

The Democrats in congress don't appear to like "No. We can't afford it". Spoiled children?

Posted by: bethg1841 | July 6, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

bethg1841:

interesting note. Please provide your list of projects the GOP said "no" to during eight years of Bush and six years of having control of the White House AND Congress. YOu know, those years when we were asked to "sacrifice" for the war effort by continuing to shop (heaven forbid that we be asked to actually PAY for said wars....).

The reason this GOP tactic of obstructing everything they can "works" is because most "Americans" are far more concerned with who gets voted off "American Idol" than the "boring" stuff that goes on in the halls of Congress. And they have short memories as to how we got into this mess to start with.

Posted by: pcpatterson | July 6, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Way to be disingenuous...while acknowledging that the Dems are in control of both the legislative and executive branches of our government you state that the Republicans are procedurally blocking the Dems from passing anything........

First, the Dems could pass ANY darn thing they want to....that's the result of being given the majority of both houses AND they'd get it signed by the Executive Branch too.....And, hey....they passed Stimulus and Health Care right?

So what exactly is blocking the Dems from passing every darn piece of legislation they put out there? One might think it was the polls...but no, one would be wrong because the polls showed the American people were AGAINST Stimulus and AGAINST the health care reform bill that passed....

Could it be that they care more about their re-elections then they do about what the people actually want? Could it be that they want the Hispanic Vote more than then they want to secure the borders? Could it possible be for purely personal political gain that the Dems can't pass everything they want even though they hold the majority in both houses?

Nope, guess not....but those darn Republicans...every move they make it for purely political gain isn't it?

Yeah, right.

Posted by: LMW6 | July 6, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

@trevithick :Is it impossible for you to believe that we are just people who want the same thing our forefathers wanted?

I believe that you want
-only land owning free men to be able to vote
-that other people can be kept as human chattel
-that a man has the right to beat his wife, -that women don't have any of the rights that land owning men have
-that is is just fine to kill of the native inhabitants of this continent as we see fit
-and that the populace is too dumb to vote in their own or their country's best interest (or even know what that is). Why do you think that the founders put in the electoral college?

"Nobody is sending money to me or anyone I know and I am a supporter of the stated goals of the Tea Party Protests."

Who do you think hired those tea party express buses? Who paid for promotion of the rallies? I am sorry that the money didn't devolve to you, but it just shows how corporatized the tea party movement (whatever that means) has become with the infusion of corporate and large donor money. You have heard of freedomworks, Right?

"Limited Government. Laws based on the Constitution and nothing else! You know the Constitution, right?"

I sure wish that all this limited government stuff had come out when Bush was spying on American citizens, conducting extraordinary renditions, ignoring the rule of law as specified in the constitution (his positions were regularly rebuked by the SCOTUS), intervening in the private medical decisions of women, and driving the deficit and debt through the roof. I didn't hear you whining about limited government then...

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

@bethg1841: The Democrats in congress don't appear to like "No. We can't afford it". Spoiled children?

Sorry you missed the 2000-2008 when the Bushies and republicans cancelled paygo rules, took the country from record surpluses to record deficits, passed 2 rounds of tax cuts for the wealthy, started 2 wars, and passed medicare d, WITHOUT PAYING FOR ANY OF IT.

Where was all of this self righteous "No we can't afford it" when the Republicans were using the govt credit card?

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

@ LMW6 :So what exactly is blocking the Dems from passing every darn piece of legislation they put out there?

Well in fact, the house has passed pretty much everything they planned to so far...

It is unfortunate that you don't understand how the senate works. In fact, you can't blow your nose in the senate without unanimous consent, and the republicans have been extremely parsimonious about granting unanimous consent for even small things like federal appointments, holding up nominees for months or years (there are still initial appointments that have not been voted on), just to bog down the senate. Why did it take until December 24 to pass HCR? It had everything to do with the republicans forcing cloture at every possible opportunity. Why didn't the vote go until after xmas? Because republicans decided that they wanted to go home early and stopped their obstruction.

If the senate ran on majority rule as opposed to supermajority rule, then you can blame the dems for not getting enough done. As long as the republicans continue to insist on 60 votes for every little bit of progress, even if 60 votes were available, the 30 hours of debate each time cloture is invoked basically wastes a week for a few cloture votes. There are not enough days on the legislative calendar to get much of anything done with these procedural roadblocks. Getting HCR done took twice as long and kept other items off the agenda, which was the republican plan.
Don't you read the papers? did you miss civics in high school?

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Greg must have been born yesterday. He thinks Republicans invented "fundamentally undemocratic procedural tricks."

Or, if he wasn't born yesterday, he's a hypocrite, because you can bet he wasn't howling when Democrats used the same tactics while the Republicans were in power.

Posted by: Sundown2 | July 6, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

@sd2:He thinks Republicans invented "fundamentally undemocratic procedural tricks."

I am sure that Greg knows that both sides have used the filibuster. The issue here is the unprecedented abuse of cloture by the republicans over the last 4 years.

From TPM:

For instance, the two largest spikes in cloture filings in the last 20 years seem to be motivated, at least in part, by Republican obstructionism.

When Republicans were a Senate minority in 1991-1992, there were 59 cloture filings. When President Clinton took office, with Republicans remaining the minority in the Senate, that number shot up to 80 in 1993-1994.

When Democrats reclaimed the Senate majority in the 2006 midterm elections, cloture filings shot up from 68 in 2005-2006 to a record 139 in 2007-2008.

This doesn't even count the number of cloture filings during 2009-10 with HCR, climate change, and finreg along with blocking other bills and the 10s of appointees still waiting for votes.

Posted by: srw3 | July 6, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

You must really think voters are STUPID! Most informed citizens understand the process and how the Party of NO, has no plans or agenda other than the continuation of more de-regulation and lower takes for the rich.

If the media did HALF their job instead of being Republican Lap Dogs, the Republicans would be in for a blood bath in November.

Posted by: BernatvorBernadette5 | July 6, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I cannot wait for elections. I would vote for fluff the pink pony over these radical Dems that have destroyed this nation in such a short time. Our economy is in shambles, our dollars if falling like a stone, our deficit is astronomical, joblessness is simply ghastly, the gulf is destroyed, the border is over run with drugs and illegals, our taxes are going up, our cities are out of money, our states are out of money, and all we have at the helm are the most inept clowns who are suing a state for doing their job. Do you honestly think people are going to vote these liberal loons back in office?

Posted by: greatgran1 | July 6, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

greatgran1 - Perhaps you didn't notice, but:
1)The finanical meltdown happened on Bush's watch and was the result of Republican failure to regulate.
2)There has not been any inflation to speak of in the past 2 years.
3)Our deficit was astronomical prior to 2009; Bush and the Republicans managed to double a debt that took 225 years to accumulate in only 8 short years.
4)The current jobless rate is the result of #1, the Bush economic meltdown.
5)The gulf is destroyed because Cheney decided that environmental and safety costs were too much of a burden to place upon oil companies.
6)The "border" has been overrun for years largely because Republican union-busting activities made it so easy for employers to hire illegals at illegally low wages without fear of penalty.
7)Our taxes have NOT gone up; they are lower than they have been in my entire working life.
8)Our cities and states are out of money because unemployment is so high that their tax bases are under stress; again see #1, the Bush economic meltdown; see also Republican refusal to allow aid to states and extension of unemployment benefits.
9)I have no doubt that people who are as ignorant, uninformed, and downright delusional as you will indeed vote for the guys who created the mess, in the belief that somehow they can fix it by doing more of what created it. What's that they say about the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Good luck with that.

Posted by: JennOfArk | July 6, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

In Nancy Pelosi as Speaker we have a fan of Henry Wallace, and here we have someone talking a "extreme" Republican Party. As for the Democratic reponse to the economic crisis, the only thing the Democrats have done to fix it is to save some state governments from the consequences of Mr. Bush's "compassionate Conservatism," which did more to grow government since the Great Society. That's really all the stimulous did.

Posted by: RobbyS | July 7, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

During the Bush administration the Democrats called this phenomena "good governance" now it is called obstructionism ?

Posted by: jjoyce6018 | July 7, 2010 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Wrong Mr. Sargent! The GOP selfish Obstructionist tactics are all about power and Not about the people! Moreover, what idiot would vote for Republicans which got us in Two Wars, the worst Economic Disaster since the great depression, and continue to protect BP, big oil, Wall street, Votes against mainstreet, and continues to vote for corportist interests.
I will Vote Democrat!!

Posted by: HopeForAmerica | July 7, 2010 4:32 AM | Report abuse

You whining liberal ladyboys - you asinine soft-witted worthless malcontents - do you REALLY have no conception of the bloodbath that's about to befall you in November? Do you honestly think Obama has the support of the people?

Sure, he's IMMENSLY popular with the indolent slackers, the wailing 'victim class', the pathetically useless, the professionally unemployed, the racial militants, the welfare-funded human breeding sows, the public employee union parasites. But what about the two-hundred million or so OTHER Americans who are NOT groveling on their knees before the 'Great One', begging to lick his hand and receive his 'gift' of other peoples money - in the form of a handout or a bailout or a kickback, slathering at the chance to suck at the tax-payer teet?

Most Americans are disgusted by such patronage. America is the land of opportunity, not the land of government intervention, favoritism, croniism, protection racketeering, down-right fascism!

And YOU think Obama deserves bipartisan support? If he really wanted to secure republican votes, he would incorporate republican ideas. He only wants bipartisan support for political cover, so that when his policies inevitably fail, he can spread around the stink of incompetence.

He means to 'fundamentally transform' this country. Into something much more like the stagnant, sclerotic social democracies of Europe, where cradle-to-grave social engineering & the voracious spending & confiscatory taxes it requires will bring about the collapse of the Collective.

Witness Greece, bloodsuckers. Your fate will be the same, but no one will be left to bail YOU out.

You degenerates better realize your despicable antics have awoken the sleeping giant. We will CRUSH you in November, & again in 2012. Mark me, you're about to suffer one of the greatest electoral butcherings in American history. You richly deserve it.

The economic disaster that is the Obama presidency will lose the democrats 10-12 seats in the Senate, & 50-70 in the House.

AR, Lincoln: See ya!

NV, Reid: Bye-bye Harry, you wretched filth

CA, Boxer: DONE! (Elitist ideologue with room temperature IQ finally gets the BOOT!)

CO, Bennett: No

CT, Blumenthal: Never (dishonorable scumbag)

DE, Coons: Not a chance, & Biden Jr (for Gov): Son of the ViceTool?, don't make me laugh

IL, Giannoulias: Nope (what a corrupt failure)

IN, Ellsworth: Never

ND, Potter: Ain't gonna happen

OH, Fisher: No way in hell

PA, Sestak: Fail- say it ain't so, Joe

See you in November, you pathetic collectivist scum. I'll be dancing on your graves.

Posted by: trex5552005 | July 7, 2010 6:09 AM | Report abuse

Oh & I mustn't forget about Russ,

WI, Fiengold: Maybe we can finally bury HIS corps as well!

Let the slaughterings commence! 119 days!

Posted by: trex5552005 | July 7, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Not to name names, or denigrate any of those who post here...but I would find it refreshing if anyone (including this articles author)understood what the US Constitution is! Contrary to popular opinion our Constitution is NOT the "supreme law of the land"! The Constitution is: a document which spells out, in detail, the structure of our government, how the power and responsibilities are divided, and how laws can be enacted - the Bill of Rights (first 10 amendments to the Constitution) limit and greatly constrain the powers of government.

I think it would be most interesting if people knew what they were talking about before they started wagging their tongues!

As a 40+ year Republican I find it horrifying the lies and implications which present-day Republicans use to distort facts and advance their agenda. Ronald Reagan is most likely turning somersaults in his grave whenever today's Republicans quote him in the context of their policies.

Posted by: vagaf31 | July 7, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

..."Just goes to prove folks, American's don't pay attention! As the President and Democrats do all they can to help the Middle Class, and especially the poor, the Republicans block them at every turn, and yet America blames the very party trying to help them, and ignors the REpublicans who have indeed "RUINED/THEM" and continues to RUIN them, that's just what the fools get for Voting Republican! The same party /NO/Republicans who lost a record 8.5 Million jobs, don't matter to fools, who left them a record/debt/bill/deficit $1.5 TRILLION don't matter to fools, these facts about the Republicans don't matter to America because American's don't pay attention!

..."No wonder the country is in the MESS it's in, it keeps voting right against itself every time it votes Republican!

..."Be sure now you RUN and put some more REpublicans back in, that way your get no help, your get more debt, and your get just what you deserve!

Republicans sure do APPRECIATE YOU/FOOLS...lol...who vote right against yourselfs...lol...fools....

Posted by: ztcb41 | July 7, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

It is a sad day in America when the party of "NO" that tell lies and half-truths and not make any real effort to fix problems on behalf of the people, is favored as the party to regain control and continue the behaviour that set the country on a downward spirial. Remember, the GOP HAS NOT told us precisely what they would do to turn things around. They have only put up roadblocks and misrepresented the truth for 18 months.

Also, as far as the deficit is concerned, the GOP will triple the non-paid for budget by starting wars in Iran and North Korea and expanding the wars in Afganistan. They would not insist that there be money in the budget to pay for this expanded military funding either. They would not do as President Obama has done-include all military spending in the main portion of the budget line. No, they would just do "off-line" budgeting, thus hiding the real deficit spending.

There would be no regulations put forward to try to keep businesses and banks (i.e. mining, gas, FDA, Wall Street bankers, hedge funds, etc.) half-way honest.

Jobs would still be sent over seas and nothing new created here for the middle class citizens under the GOP.

So, the "GOP obstructioners" have a plan to do something different, better, and safer for the American people, expecially the middle class, and therefore, deserve another chance to be in control? For the life of me, I just DO NOT understand.

Yes, the DEMs should do some things better and different, but at least they are trying to move forward and work to solve the problems that have caused so much mayhem for our country
todate. I would much rather work with them and push them to work smarter for the people and businesses, than have the GOP in control working only for top 1-5% and big business.

I want Congress and the President to work for every one to get this country moving again.

Right now big business and the GOP is just NOT PULLING its weight in a forward direction. They are simply standing in the way blocking progress, throwing stones, and pouting about not getting their way and not being in control.

I am really sad to see such division among our leaders and our citizens. Remember: "A country divided against itself cannot stand."

What will it take for us to move forward together for the good of us all?

Posted by: mslauria1 | July 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I've got to ask if these people work for a living and pay taxes on their income from their labor? 53% are paying all the bills for the government. That leaves us carring 47% of the rest of Americans who either are rich enough to get out of paying or those that we feed, house, clothes on the government tit. Now, you want our healthcare to go up for less services rendered, our utility bills to "necessarially skyrocket" with cap & tax, create banks and car companies (because they are union workers) that are too big to fail and pay off the Union pensions. And in doing so, increase the size of government to new levels.

I have been around awhile and I have never seen the government run anything efficiently and without corruption.

Someone wants BP by the ba..s. Why not the federal government that oversees all offshore drilling and to instill a 6 mo. moratorium because it is politically advantageous. Why wouldn't the Adm. allow others from around the world come to help with the spill? It is because Obama want Cap & Tax passed and by allowing this to grow enormous will piss a bunch of people off and you know how they don't want to waist a crisis. Please, open your eyes before he ruins this country. If you want a socialist style government, MOVE FROM AMERICA because this country was founded on individual hard work and inginuity with individual rights and freedoms we are endowed with. Not the Government. You really can't be happy with what you have witnessed with a Pres that can't speak without a teleprompter. He is clueless as to how a business, much less, a country runs. His Senate voting record is a farse, voting Present most of the time. Remember, the last two years of Bush, the Dem's controlled both Houses of Congress, forced banks to make loans to people who couldn't afford it. They won't even propose a Budget, which is probably more honest than anything else they have done because they had numerous Emergency Spending Bills exceeding the previous one. At some point, we will be just another third world country if we keep spending our next generations money because they've already gone through ours. Check the Dept Clock.

Posted by: leasador | July 9, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

"Obstructionism"?!! Thinking Americans don't see it as "obstructionism" but as defending us hating Marxist and their comrades, bent on destroying our country. The use of the word "obstructionism" demonstrates Greg Sargent's writings are ridiculous propaganda. His demonizing of the GOP, however, only helps us understand that, to defend ourselves from Obama and his comrades, we must vote for the GOP.

The differences between Republicans and Democrats have never been greater, mainly because the Democrat party is currently controlled by “progressives” (Marxists) like Obama and his comrades, who are destroying our country with scams like Obamacare and cap and trade. The differences have NEVER been greater:

-- Controlled by “progressives” (Marxists), Democrats have lied, manipulated, intimidated, coerced and BRIBED (at our expense) everyone who can be bribed to force us to swallow prosperity-killing, job-killing, freedom-killing scams like Obamacare and cap and trade.

-- Democrats are ashamed of the U.S. and try to lower the U.S. to the level of failed socialist countries.

-- Democrats increase the deficit, tax us more and more, destroy the economy, destroy jobs, and pretend to create mythical jobs in districts that don't even exist.

-- Democrats protect terrorists and other U.S. enemies and endanger our soldiers and Americans in general.

-- Democrats are destroying our economy, our freedoms, our future, and our country, while apologizing to the world for not doing it faster!

* Republicans, on the other hand, are not perfect, but they try to defend us from prosperity-killing, job-killing, freedom-killing scams like Obamacare and cap and trade. They did just that.

* Republicans are PROUD of the U.S. and want to restore democracy, freedom and prosperity to the U.S.

* Republicans endeavor to achieve fiscal responsibility, improve the economy, create REAL jobs, help the U.S. become energy independent.

* Republicans help our soldiers protect Americans from terrorists and other U.S. enemies.

* Republicans defend our economy, our freedoms, our future, and our country; and DO NOT APOLOGIZE to commie dictators for doing it.

Republicans did NOT cave in to the lies, manipulation, intimidation, coercion and BRIBERY of Obama and his comrades regarding Obamacare. They will always have our gratitude and support as long as they defend us from U.S. hating Marxists like Obama and Marxist scams like Obamacare. We need to vote for more of them so they can successfully defend us from terrorists and Marxism scams.

Posted by: AntonioSosa | July 9, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

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