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* The House passed $26 billion in state aid this afternoon, and Republicans are gearing up to portray it as another Big Government job-killing stimulus boondoggle.

* And GOP Rep. Mike Pence says it's a "bailout" of teachers, which is meant as a negative.

* Rand Paul adamantly denies that he kidnapped the woman in college and forced her to use drugs, though he didn't respond directly to questions about the woman's allegations of blindfolding and forcing her to pray to "Aqua Buddha":

* Ben Smith predicts the hunt for the Paul prank victim will now begin.

* Dem Rep Keith Ellison is the first to call for the resignation of Robert Gibbs, which seems a tad excessive.

* In any case, the White House says Gibbs isn't resigning.

* Markos Moulitsas says the polls clearly show Obama is experiencing slippage with the base.

* In the wake of Charlie Rangel's rambling self defense on the House floor today, Jonathan Capehart reiterates his strong case that it's time for Rangel to go.

* Breaking: A New York Republican comes out for the Islamic center near Ground Zero.

* Here's another problem with that daft plan to use free state land to lure the developers of the Islamic center away from Ground Zero: It may be unconstitutional.

* And right wingers don't think the mosque developers should have the right to build their center near Ground Zero, but they are being granted the right to run ads describing the planned center as the "WTC Mega Mosque."

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  |  August 10, 2010; 6:21 PM ET
Categories:  2010 elections , Foreign policy and national security , Happy Hour Roundup , House Dems , House GOPers  
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"* And GOP Rep. Mike Pence says it's a "bailout" of teachers, which is meant as a negative."

Digby has an excellent post on this. Check it out!

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/rights-wrong-turn-voting-against-middle.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 10, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

thanks sue. will link that tomorrow.

and you saw that your prediction that the plan to move the mosque may be unconstitutional is getting some support...

Posted by: Greg Sargent | August 10, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Newt Gingrich's ex-wife describe what an amoral and hypocritical human he is... http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/10/gingrich-adultery-irrelevant/

Posted by: bernielatham | August 10, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Tomasky puts the Gingrich story into the proper context... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2010/aug/10/us-politics-newt-gingrich-sociopath

"I report, you decide

Exhibit A, a HuffPo summary of the new Esquire piece about Newt Gingrich, featuring the first-ever interview with Newt's second wife (he's on his third), who recounts the following conversation:

He asked her to just tolerate the affair, an offer she refused.

He'd just returned from Erie, Pennsylvania, where he'd given a speech full of high sentiments about compassion and family values.

The next night, they sat talking out on their back patio in Georgia. She said, "How do you give that speech and do what you're doing?"

"It doesn't matter what I do," he answered. "People need to hear what I have to say. There's no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn't matter what I live."

Exhibit B, a list of traits associated with sociopathy."
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Posted by: bernielatham | August 10, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I noted yesterday that Tony Judt had passed. The NYRB, for which he was a contributor, has released some of his writing from behind their pay wall (I'm a subscriber so had happy access to his work). Do dig in. A truly wonderful man and a great writer/historian. I recommend, if you'd like a recommendation to start with, his piece "Ill Fares the Land". But anything will surely do. If you are wise, you'll make hard copies.
http://www.nybooks.com/

Posted by: bernielatham | August 10, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Tomasky has this exactly right...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2010/aug/09/congress-us-supreme-court-malcolmx-republicans

"...I grant that you'll never get a majority of Americans to accept that one of our two political parties could be so morally corrupt that it would block actions aimed at helping the country out of its worst economic crisis in 75 years for the sake of electoral gains. But that is what appears to be happening.

The point we have reached in this country: today's conservative movement and GOP simply will not let a Democratic administration govern. The very idea of a Democratic administration is illegitimate to this movement. Extremists like Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Bachmann and Jim DeMint will disrupt its functioning by hook or by crook, and previously reasonable conservative solons like Orrin Hatch and Chuck Grassley don't have the spine to stand up to it and just go along.

Anything vaguely liberal - more accurately, anything not avowedly conservative - must be blocked by any means necessary. They're the Malcolm X Republicans."

Posted by: bernielatham | August 10, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

@greg: "and you saw that your prediction that the plan to move the mosque may be unconstitutional is getting some support..."

Yes, I did! :o)

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 10, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Walter Pincus has a pretty good article today on the new START Treaty, and just how far down the obstructionist rabbit hole the GOBP has fallen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080905461.html

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 10, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Sue, I read that article about START. Unbelievable. Opposing all things Obama was the plan beginning on November 5, 2008. It was a longshot, and it still might not pay off politically, but to them, it's better than actually making us safer and more prosperous, which might convince a few voters that democrats should govern.

Still, the voters expect results, and they don't feel safer or more prosperous, so I understand if they don't vote for democrats. I'm expecting low turnout in this midterm. High turnout from republicans as usual, but lower from independents and democrats.

Posted by: SDJeff | August 10, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

"Dem Rep Keith Ellison is the first to call for the resignation of Robert Gibbs, which seems a tad excessive."

It's excessive if only for that interview, but I wouldn't object to his resignation in any case. Not a big fan....

Posted by: SDJeff | August 10, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Is this the religious freedom that we want in the US?

The cover of this week's issue of Time Magazine shows a photo of an 18-year-old Afghan woman whose nose and ears were cut off in 2009 under orders from a local Taliban commander.

It's time we realized that that Islam is more than just a religion. It's a political and social philosophy that is inimical to women, our Constitution and our freedoms.

Posted by: amazd | August 10, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

"It's time we realized that that Islam is more than just a religion. It's a political and social philosophy that is inimical to women, our Constitution and our freedoms."

Yes. I understand that they are burning witches at the stake, ripping people apart on the rack or by use of four horses and disembowling heretics. You can get a real flavor of a religion from these sorts of acts.

Posted by: bernielatham | August 10, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

ama,

no. bigotry and prejudice are inimical to our rights and freedoms. by your logic, we should judge all christians by the acts of terrorist christian extremists who murder abortion doctors and others in the name of christ.

Posted by: blahgblogwordpresscom | August 10, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

amazd, it is illegal for Muslims or anyone else to cut off noses and ears in this country.

Posted by: SDJeff | August 10, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

SDJeff....LMAO...that's great!!!

I too was impressed by the amazing ignorance contained in amazd myopic post. I thought about responding...then Bernie did a great job...but yours is the best Jeff I love it.

Clean and to the point and like WTF are you talking about amazd with one nice sentence with no snark or personal attacks. Very well done Jeff and worth repeating.

"amazd, it is illegal for Muslims or anyone else to cut off noses and ears in this country."

Posted by: rukidding7 | August 10, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm....I was just reading something about Bobby Jindal. When he was born here in 1971, neither of his parents were US citizens. They were immigrants from Punjab. That would have made Bobby Jindal an "anchor baby" since he would have been granted citizenship as a birthright. Someone should ask him to weigh in on reworking the 14th amendment.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 10, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Greg, did you see Chris Bowers results of polling (gallup) compared to what you gave us earlier. I think there is more slippage than we thought among liberals.

"If the White House really doesn't think it has any problems among self-identified liberals or progressives, and that all the complaints are coming from a grasstop elite, it needs to look at the data again. From 2008 to 2010, President Obama has suffered far more erosion of support among self-identified liberals than among self-identified moderates or conservatives:

* In 2008, according to exit polls, 89% self-identified liberals voted for President Obama. Over the past four weeks, according to Gallup, President Obama's approval rating among self-identified liberals has averaged 74%. That is a decline of 15 points.

* In 2008, according to exit polls, 60% of self-identified moderates voted for President Obama. Over the past four weeks, according to Gallup, President Obama's approval rating among self-identified moderates has averaged 54%. That is a decline of 6 points.

* In 2008, according to exit polls, 20% of self-identified conservatives voted for President Obama. Over the past four weeks, according to Gallup, President Obama's approval rating has averaged 24% among self-identified conservatives. That is an increase of 4 points.

So, according to Gallup, disapproval among self-identified liberals accounts for the majority of President Obama's approval rating underperformance compared to his 2008 vote share (from the perspective that the smaller decline among moderates is partially canceled out by the small gain among conservatives). If it were not for President Obama's decline among liberals, there would be virtually no difference between his 2010 approval rating and 2008 voter performance."

http://openleft.com/diary/19769/dear-swing-voters-you-suck-love-the-white-house

Posted by: lmsinca | August 10, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Oops, forgot his comment re the polling you cited.

"Update: PPP's polling showing Obama with a higher approval among self-identified liberals is irrelevant. Gallup's four-week sample is based on over 14,000 registered voters, producing a self-identified liberal subsample of 2,500 to 3,000, with a margin of error of less than plus or minus 2. By contrast, PPP's last monthly survey was based on 667 registered voters, thus producing a liberal subsample of about 100-140, with a margin of error of plus or minus 9.

The PPP numbers are irrelevant given their astronomical margin of error. "

Posted by: lmsinca | August 10, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lmsinca | August 10, 2010 10:37 PM
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Needs a Tom Tomorrow link for added centralmalism.

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2010/06/29/this_modern_world/index.html

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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 10, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Thanks thunder.

Posted by: lmsinca | August 10, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Michael Bennett wins in Colorado.

Nathan Deal wins in Georgia, and Sarah Palin loses. :o)

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 10, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

@suekzoo How about a quick update on your oil spill. Of course here in Florida they have told us the Gulf Oil has evaporated, dispersed yadda yadda yadda...

What's the latest on your spill and how come there hasn't been more coverage?

Posted by: rukidding7 | August 10, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Sue...sorry to read Palin's candidate lost.

She was actually running on the ole GW Bush slogan...bring it on...does that mean if she had been elected Georgia would be in the same mess as Iraq?

Posted by: rukidding7 | August 10, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey thunder, this is for you.

http://shop.cafepress.com/professional-left

Posted by: lmsinca | August 10, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Mike Pence

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Posted by: hoser3 | August 11, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

lmsinca
Nice to see someone capitalizing on Gibb's foot-in-mouth screw up.

I hope you caught the Michael Moore interview on KO tonight. I chuckled when he Keith asked him to respond to the "professional left" comment. Moore laughed and said he's never heard "professional" and "left" in the same sentence and he wasn't sure if he should be insulted. He then went on to skewer the White House in a way that even I approve of.

Posted by: Andy94 | August 11, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey Andy

I missed it but will catch it in the a.m. Yeah, it was an interesting day.

Is your daughter still coming out this way for school? Wasn't it USC or UCLA? And how's your summer going? I've been so busy I barely have time to comment any more.

Posted by: lmsinca | August 11, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

lmsinca
Don't miss Keith's special comment, it's pretty good as well.

Our daughter is still planning to apply to USC. She is also applying to several other schools as a backup since it's very tough to get in to USC.

The last six months have been crazy busy! I miss checking in here. I have a short break this week but on Sunday I leave to drive our older daughter out east to school for her second year. My wife and younger daughter are flying out Monday evening to join us. On Tuesday we move our daughter in to her dorm and then head to Manhattan for the night and a couple of days off before heading home.
I hope all is well with you and your family.

Posted by: Andy94 | August 11, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Hey thunder, this is for you.

http://shop.cafepress.com/professional-left

Posted by: lmsinca | August 10, 2010 11:55 PM |
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I love it, but don't we have any marketing genii?

NEEDS MORE $$$ ON IT!1!
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 11, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

From Bernie's Tomasky cite above:

"...one of our two political parties could be so morally corrupt that it would block actions aimed at helping the country out of its worst economic crisis in 75 years for the sake of electoral gains."

Two things:

1) The "actions" blocked are such (I suppose he means more stimulus, regs and command econ.) that have never worked in the past, aren't working today, and won't work tomorrow, or ever. That's why Romer bailed, Summers wants out desperately, and Geithner is cozying further to Wall Street and--FYI--furiously blocking Warren. I won't gainsay the "aimed at helping the country" but, uh...take a look around, their aim ain't true. Axe and the professional left politicos (hehe) in the WH couldn't run a Bronx bodega much less the US economy. Perhaps, just perhaps, those blocking them aren't solely motivated by electoral gains...Everest-sized gains which are going to happen anyway. The $26B walking around money to NEA and SEIU fiasco won't do bupkus for the economy or even education, and is going to go nuclear on the Dem rank&file but save a few of Pelosi's prog orcs. Y'all are bein' played (October Surprise!!! or not).

2) This isn't the worst in 75 years. Tomasky's Brit/Labour lensed grasp of the US, it's people, and history is almost comical at times.

BTW: Remember last week the PL discussion re: local opinion of the Cordoba Mosque...well, apparently 50% of NYC Democrats are ignorant, insane, FauxNews bigots.

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2010/08/10/marist-majority-opposes-ground-zero-mosque-blooomberg-approval-at-5-year-low/

Posted by: tao9 | August 11, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

"@suekzoo How about a quick update on your oil spill."

Enbridge (pipeline owner) was able to shut down the leak in about a day and get it mostly contained, but about 19,500 barrels of oil were spilled, and about 30 miles of the river is contaminated. The cause is still being investigated, but neglect and/or deferred maintenance on the pipeline is suspected. The federal agency in charge of inspections (which falls under DOT, not MMS) noted 250 metal loss anomolies some months ago, along with a lack of working internal corrosion monitors. Enbridge had requested a time extension to make repairs, and were waiting for a reply when the pipe burst and the spill took place. There was a 5 foot long lengthwise rip in the pipe. The clean up is ongoing, and Enbridge is negotiating with about 200 homeowners to buy houses along the 30 miles of the river most effected by the spill. And, of course, Enbridge is pushing to reopen the pipeline now that the initial repair has been made. So far, that permission has not been granted.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 11, 2010 5:08 AM | Report abuse

Earlier, I noted: "Nathan Deal wins in Georgia, and Sarah Palin loses."

Officially, the race is too close to call with a 2500 vote spread. Nathan Deal has not declared victory.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 11, 2010 5:22 AM | Report abuse

"And GOP Rep. Mike Pence says it's a "bailout" of teachers, which is meant as a negative."

So the Republicans want to add being known anti-education to their shtick?

Posted by: rhallnj | August 11, 2010 6:58 AM | Report abuse

All, morning roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/08/the_morning_plum_71.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | August 11, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

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