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Karen Hughes: I don't remember any of my work with Imam

As you may have heard, former Bush senior adviser Karen Hughes came out against Cordoba House over the weekend. Hughes called on Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf to move the project in order to "provide a path toward the peaceful relationships that he and his fellow Muslims strive to achieve."

What was mystifying about her opposition, as TPM noted, was that she did not mention that Rauf had a long-term relationship with the Bush administration. Nor did she mention that as the Bush State Department's chief of outreach to Muslims she participated with him in multiple bridge-building efforts to the Muslim world.

Here's her explanation: Hughes claimed in a statement to me that she doesn't remember any of the work she did with him.

As it happens, when people first started pointing out the connections betweeen Hughes and Rauf, I asked Ms. Hughes' office to comment. She sent me a statement, which I didn't get around to posting. Here it is:

"As Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy, President Bush asked me to focus on interfaith dialogue to try to encourage greater understanding and respect between leaders of different faiths, and to encourage leaders of all faiths to speak out against all acts of terror and violence. As a result, I met with many Christian, Jewish and Muslim leaders and attended numerous events and conferences across the world and it's entirely possible he was at some of those, but I don't have specific recollections of that. I believe acts of violence pervert all faith and I continue to encourage religious leaders to speak out against suicide bombings, terrorist attacks and all acts of violence."

As TPM points out, Rauf repeatedly participated in events with Hughes, who saw improving relations with the Muslim world as an imperative. Rauf even claims he met with her. So I'll leave it to you to judge how likely it is that Hughes wouldn't remember any of their work together.

By Greg Sargent  |  August 24, 2010; 10:31 AM ET
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Does this surprise you?

The only thing keeping the GOP talking heads going is selective amnesia.

If you are looking for intellectual consistency the GOP is the absolute wrong place to start.

Posted by: nisleib | August 24, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

We all knew while Hughes was installed at State that her job was little more than a sinecure.

This statement just shows how little real interest she had in the job with which she was supposedly charged, and how little knowledge she had of the subject matter before, during and after the fact.

Posted by: tbetz | August 24, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Very sad; Karen Hughes(George W. Bush's Muslim Whisperer) needs to see her Doctor now.

She just might be experiencing symptoms of the early onset of Imamzheimer's

Posted by: Liam-still | August 24, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse



Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | August 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Shorter Hughes:

"I don't know, all these Muslims look alike"

Posted by: zattarra | August 24, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Prince Alwaleed has grown close with the Murdoch enterprise, recently endorsing James Murdoch to succeed his father and creating a content-sharing agreement with Fox News for his own media conglomerate, Rotana. As irony would have it, the Arab News just published this picture today of Prince Alwaleed meeting with News Corp executives to discuss how to “further strengthen the strategic corporate alliance between Rotana and News Corp”

Posted by: cmccauley60 | August 24, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I hope you're keeping to the very small safe section of D.C., Greg.

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | August 24, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse


A commenter on that thinkprogress thread notes:

"So, if Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal funds terrorists and is a large shareholder of NewsCorp and NewsCorp funds the Republican Party, then the Republican Party is funded by the same money that funds terrorists.

Not that this wasn’t already a widely-held view, but it’s nice to get concrete proof."

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 24, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I sure hope NewsCorp does not have any offices close to Ground Zero.That would be very Insensitive of them.

Posted by: Liam-still | August 24, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Of course you're right sue but my guess is they have no recollection of that.

Vote GOP -- the party of amnesiacs!

Posted by: cmccauley60 | August 24, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

It is important to view the entire scene as a skin thickening excersize for liberals.

Conservatives, who have lived with the smears and slanders for years have long ago toughened up to the point where the liberal name calling doesn't deter them.

But it seems to me that liberals are still pretty thin skinned.

so when the tools and techniques that the liberals in American have employed over the past decade are brought to bear on them, they seem to at a loss.

I'm confident that this will change. Liberalism is, if nothing else, persistent.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | August 24, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

St. Petersburg Times, published April 13, 2002

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- A Saudi telethon raised more than $92-million for the Palestinians by late Friday.

Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, a billionaire investor, donated $27-million to the government-organized fundraiser. In October, he presented $10-million to a fund for Sept. 11 victims, but New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani refused the money after Alwaleed urged the United States to re-examine its Mideast policies.

In a statement Friday, Alwaleed said half his telethon pledge would help rebuild Palestinian infrastructure destroyed by Israeli forces, while the rest would be donated in the form of goods, including 100 vehicles and clothing.

The telethon, broadcast live by local and Saudi-owned satellite channels and expected to continue today, was ordered by King Fahd to help relatives of Palestinian "martyrs" -- a term that has been used by the Palestinians to include suicide bombers.

The Saudi government insisted the term referred not to suicide bombers but to "Palestinians who are victimized by Israeli terror and violence."

Posted by: suekzoo1 | August 24, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Breaking News: Prominent Republican has selective memory!

I am of course, duly outraged.

Posted by: CalD | August 24, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Karen Hughes' opposition to this community center merely proves beyond any reasonable doubt or debate that her ENTIRE tenure at the State Department was one huge colossal fraud from beginning to end.

The universal, over-the-top, rancid and rabid goper opposition to this project today makes Hughes' boss, and his tolerant-and-understanding-of-Islam words at the time of 9/11, look like someone who deserves a Nobel Peace Prize in comparison. Shameful. But wholly expected of the unAmerican, unconstitutional, Know Nothings who now rule the Party of Lincoln.

Posted by: ImaDem | August 24, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I still can't get over how shameless this Dan Senor from the Bush admin is slamming the Imam's "shady" ties to people who fund madrassas while failing to disclose that "shady" individual is part stakeholder in NewsCorp.

That should be news right there. It's blatant blunders like this that expose this right wing propaganda that's going on.

I wonder how Prince Waleed feels about all this.

Could someone with access get his take on all this? I'd love to know.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | August 24, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

All, here's what's really at stake in Mosque fight: It reveals the Cheney-ization of the GOP:

Posted by: Greg Sargent | August 24, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

@skipsailing....we see you've mastered the ole Pee Wee Herman argument..."I know you are but what am I"...LMAO

Posted by: rukidding7 | August 24, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Good reporting Greg. This is why I keep reading you.

You've also picked up on a pattern by Republicans. They seem to always forget the details. Ignore reality and it will go away is their MO.

Posted by: Chris-TheFold | August 24, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Her explanation doesn't seem implausible. The reality is, she just isn't a very bright woman.

Posted by: billybobtweed | August 24, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The bigger question is how both the Bush and Obama Administrations used Imam Rauf as their "emmissary" to bridge a dialogue between the Muslims and non-Muslims.

I have previously posted the following about Imam Rauf, which by now some of this has been made known:

Imam Rauf, is a prominent member of the Malaysian Perdana Global Peace Organization, which was the major donor to the "Free Gaza" Flotilla in which Israeli soldiers were ambushed and attacked. This Flotilla was also supported by Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn.

The Perdana Org. has members who are 911 "truthers" who believe that 911 was staged by America and the Imam has not distanced himself from those truthers.

The Imam has not denounced Hamas as a terrorist organization and the Imam had said less than three weeks after 9/11 on CBS' "60 Minutes" that "United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened (on 9/11)," and that " fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA."

The Imam has also not denounced the violence involved in Sharia Law.

There are more questions than answers with this alliance by the two Presidents' administrations.

And just who is funding this Mosque and is the good Imam using American taxdollars as more of a "fundraising tour," than an outreach tour to Mideast Muslims?

The more research I do, the more questions need to be asked.

Posted by: janet8 | August 24, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"in which Israeli soldiers were ambushed and attacked"

Yes the IDF was just conducting routine operations of descending from helicopters fully armed in a pre-dawn raid on unarmed vessels sailing in international waters and were unaccountably "ambushed". How exactly do you take commandos by surprise? Isn't that THEIR job?

Janet where did you learn English? At Orwell College at the University of Mendacity?

Posted by: BruceWebb | August 24, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised she doesn't remember. She looks to me like someone who likes her booze, maybe even pills. I'm not saying she's a dope-addled drunk or anything, I'm just pointing out the baggy, squinting eyes and the bizarre behavior, and her long relationship with notorious substance abuser George W Bush.

Posted by: hellslittlestangel1 | August 24, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

While we take the actions of a few followers of Mohammed and extrapolate their characteristics to millions of fellow Muslims wordwide, let us do the same with the behavior of so called Christians. We may start anywhere. Millions were killed in South America, North America, the Caribbean, the near and Far East in the name of God and the King. The Italian sailor who claimed discovery of America did have Papal blessing. Aztecs, Incas and many other kingdoms were laid bare and killed with Papal support as they sought to enlarge the kingdom of God and their treasuries. Let us discuss Pat Robertson's investment history in the gold mines of Sierra Leone. What about those Christian members of lynch mobs, KKK and other murderous gatherings of history. Do unrepentant so called Christian churches who supported and were enriched by slavery and the subsequent racist oppression deserve a free pass? Should we draw a straight line from the behavior of these "Christians" to that of all people of the same faith. Some seem to be doing this with those of the Muslim faith. We may just be lining up to change the "In God we trust" to "In Jesus we believe". The way things are going, those in favor of the latter may find themselves in a corner with well known nitwits of an earlier time.

Posted by: Draesop | August 24, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Karen got PTSD during her combat tour with the Bush Administration.

Posted by: TomPaine2 | August 24, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

There has never been a Muslim army in the United States, but the United States sure has had plenty of them in Muslim countries.

President Bush referred to the Invasion of Iraq, as a Crusade. How is that for a potent symbol of past conquest for you, all you people who see the name Cordoba as standing for something similar.

And no; The Crusades was not the last ancient Conquest of Muslim lands.

Learn some history, you ignorant bigots.

The West was still colonizing Islamic lands, as recently as 1960. Look up the history of the French in Algeria, for example.

Does no one recall that The Brits, The French, and The Israelis, invaded and captured the Suez Canal, during the Eisenhower era. Does no one recall that Eisenhower overthrew the elected government of Iran, and send in the Military to install the Shah, as our puppet dictator.

What the hell do you think both the Germans and British were doing in North Africa, during World War 2?

Again; at this moment; there are American Armies in Muslim lands, but no Muslim Army has ever landed in America.

Posted by: Liam-still | August 24, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

How many minutes from normal is Mrs. Hughes today?

Posted by: mattintx | August 24, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

BruceWebb wrote:

"Yes the IDF was just conducting routine operations of descending from helicopters fully armed in a pre-dawn raid on unarmed vessels sailing in international waters and were unaccountably "ambushed". How exactly do you take commandos by surprise? Isn't that THEIR job?

Janet where did you learn English? At Orwell College at the University of Mendacity?"

My, my Bruce getting a little testy there, aren't you?

The Israeli troops were within their rights in accordance with the San Remo Int'l Law Treaty 1994.

San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea. Specifically, paragraph 67-68:

67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:

(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;
(b) engage in belligerent acts on behalf of the enemy;<
(c) act as auxiliaries to the enemy s armed forces;
(d) are incorporated into or assist the enemy s intelligence system;
(e) sail under convoy of enemy warships or military aircraft; or
(f) otherwise make an effective contribution to the enemy s military action, e.g., by carrying military materials, and it is not feasible for the attacking forces to first place passengers and crew in a place of safety. Unless circumstances do not permit, they are to be given a warning, so that they can re-route, off-load, or take other precautions.

Evidently those who villify Israel for protecting their country, since they have experienced the smuggling of arms and other weapons to be used against them in the past, should read this Treaty.

And Bruce, isn't Orwell U. your alma mater?

Posted by: janet8 | August 24, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Whether her stupidity is natural or chemically induced, it's no surprise that Hughes "can't remember" her relations with Rauf. She was never known for her firm handle on the events happening around her.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | August 24, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

The cow says "moooo."

The duck says "quack quack"

And the politician says "I don't remember."

Posted by: abigsam | August 24, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

How delightfully Nixonian of you Karen. I have no recollection of any job creation, economic boom or quality of life improvement during the Bush Administration either. I do have recollection of illegal wars, terrorist attacks, massive tax cuts for the rich, and a near economic collapse....not to mention war crimes. Remember any of those?

Posted by: pblotto | August 24, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Earlier commenters have also said this, but I would like to re-emphasize it:

Dan Senor, former Bush Speechwriter and now Fox News Analyst, was on Fox and Friends a day ago demonizing the Imam Rauf and his "Ground Zero Mosque." One of his talking points regarded the suspicious funding for the mosque---much of the money may be coming from a "radical" Saudi Prince, the same one that attempted to give Rudi Giuliani $10 Million after 9-11, and who "funds radical madrases throughout the world."

However, Senior never actually mentioned this "radical" Saudi Prince's name. It turns out that this "radical" Saudi is in fact Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, who happens to also be the largest non-Murdock stock owner in News Corp, the owner of Fox News!

It obviously was no accident that Senior neglected to mention the Prince's name. He wanted to create some guilt-by-association for Imam Rauf, without revealing Fox News' own direct, hard money connection to Prince Al-Waleed.

This is absolute evil mendacity, far surpassing Karen Hughes's inability to remember her own close association with Imam Rauf.

Posted by: wasntme543 | August 24, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised that Hughes is pulling out the GOP's favorite mantra...

"I can't recall....."

Just add her name to the long line of "can't recall" Republicans....Reagan, Alberto Gonzalez, and on and on and on....

Posted by: elscott | August 24, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

FYI janet8:

Those ships were an aid convey, with no weapons on them, and not escorted by armed Palestinians or any other country's armed forces. The Israeli's tactic is to oppress and humiliate the Palestinians, and deprive them of the basics of life that we in the rest of the world take for granted.

Their brutal, illegal and murderous invasion of that aid flotilla and the subsequent kidnapping of the passengers was afterwards justified by the most outrageous and one sided lying by Israeli government flacks I had ever seen by one country, a so called democracy, on any matter. It was more like listening to the North Koreans, than a US ally. I guess they were counting on epode like you to believe them, but apparently, that tactic mostly failed.

Posted by: TakingOffSoon | August 24, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Karen Hughes: I don't remember any of my work with Imam
She is saying "I do not remember meeting the Imam...." not "I did not meet with the Imam...." Big difference!

Karen, Did you place a headphone and a receiver on Bush during the 2004 debates with Kerry OR

Do you remember placing a headphone and a receiver on Bush during the 2004 debates with Kerry?

Posted by: kishorgala | August 24, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"It is important to view the entire scene as a skin thickening excersize for liberals.

"Conservatives, who have lived with the smears and slanders for years have long ago toughened up to the point where the liberal name calling doesn't deter them.

"But it seems to me that liberals are still pretty thin skinned.

"so when the tools and techniques that the liberals in American have employed over the past decade are brought to bear on them, they seem to at a loss.

"I'm confident that this will change. Liberalism is, if nothing else, persistent.

"Posted by: skipsailing28 | August 24, 2010 11:29 AM"

Right, you've got SUCH a thick skin that you replied to something a person with a real "thick skin" would have otherwise ignored.

Looks like you've fallen far short of the bar you set for everyone else.

A far-right extremist who doesn't measure up to their own standards?

How shocking.

But you keep on reaching for the stars, lil' thin-skinned trooper, you'll reach them yet.

BTW, your blather about thick skinned conservatives is easily-debunked every time Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck whine when they're criticized, apparently, the overpaid village idiots of Beck and Palin 1st Amendment rights mean the right to be free from any and all criticism.

Posted by: kingcranky | August 24, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that next to Rupert Murdoch, the next largest investor in Fox is the Saudi Royal family. You know, those Muslims who tacticly support radical Islam so they can keep control of the masses. And where 18 of the 9/11 terrorists came from. But, hey, they have got the $$ and the oil.
Where is the Fox outrage over the mosque built in the Pentagon after 9/11? Oh yeah, going against the military establishment isn't in the Fox neocon vocabulary.

Posted by: ben16 | August 24, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Ms. Hughes has been fishing in pfesteria infested waters. Pfesteria comes in a number of strains, the basic political variety: pfesteria politicus hysteresis, is induced under electoral pressure or opportunity as may be the case.
Other varieties of this disease category are of a different cell line and have a different etiology, a prime example of this is (supposedly) high cognitive functioning business executives who must refer continuously to their briefing books prepared for them by their attorneys in answering questions at a congressional hearing. This condition is known as pfesteria attornicus.
My apologies to the watermen on the eastern shore.

Posted by: dwbdcy | August 24, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Lots of people, lots of faces. Hard to keep them all straight. I gave Bush credit for his pro-Muslim line post 9-11. Now I wonder if it was based on the same oil connections that got so many high profile Arabs out of the country pronto. I do wish we would hear from George W. on this.

Posted by: RHouck | August 24, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

It is said that memory is the second thing to go, but what went first? This one is as flaky as Glenn Beck, who once praised the Imam he now tries to demonize. But then, Beck never did claim to have any intelligence, and he was right - he has none.

Posted by: ronjeske | August 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I read your column for the last time.

It is boring to listen to total partisans--there are NO thoughts. You sound like and probably are a total idiot.

Have you ever had an independent thought?

Posted by: bh150243 | August 24, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

So it is he said, she said, and Greg Sargent low-level WaPo minion that he is, sides with the Muslim.

Posted by: screwjob21 | August 24, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

As a citizen of this country born here right on our home turf I demand that the Obama Justice Department of no or selected justice investigate this questionable group as to their funding and funneling of money to Hamas. I would also like to know how waiter can plant down 4.8 million. Did he rob every table he served? I also demand an explanation from this pathetic moronic Obama state department as to this mysterious mission that they sent this nutty imam on with our taxpayer dollars. Are they crazy? Now let me get this straight. They want to put a mega mosque on the spot the little thuggish terrorist's body was recovered and then they want to tell us they are an interfaith charity? Well this imam is about as much a moderate as I am a pink poodle, This group believes in barbaric sharia law. Ask those two beautiful sisters shot at close range by their father in an honor killing from Lewisville, Texas just how tolerate sharia law really is. Why are there no churches in Saudi Arabia? Why no Christian schools in Turkey and there were for centuries before. So do not insult my intelligence and tell me to be tolerate. Oh they have the right to build that mega mosque and I have the right to shoot it my sincere feelings when I walk by.

Posted by: greatgran1 | August 24, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

"provide a path toward the peaceful relationships that he and his fellow Muslims strive to achieve."

In other words, you are the adult in this situation and your opponents are a bunch of little kids who can't be expected to act like grownups. So it is your obligation to placate these whiners and brats because they obviously won't behave on their own.

Posted by: dkmjr | August 24, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Can't seem to remember but wasn't it Obama who could not remember meeting with Rob Blagovitch. Seems like all politicians have selective amnesia when it suits their needs.

Posted by: HLCDB | August 24, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

That famous Texas memory? Remember what''s its name that fort, no, wasn't it a mission?

Posted by: nyer11 | August 24, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Mr. PLUM Sargent!Are you going to stand there and tell me that YOU remember every single person in a group that you may have spoken to? How many years back was it that this meeting of religious leaders converged? By the way are you an Obama sympathizer, and believing in the fine work he is doing in the name of Islam?Whether Mrs. Hughes were able to remember this Imam radical or not is not the point.You as a columnist in your Plum Line should have at least taken note that the Bush administration has ,back then, made efforts to bring ALL religions together so each and every one could have a better understanding of the other.Your God Obama has not made that effort instead criticized other religions as being bigots and racists against his religion.Like you your Obama has shown a blind eye to what attempts Bush has made to quell the hostilities between religious groups.All what he is doing as well as you is for the final downfall of this country of mine.You sir are not a believer in my country and should retire from trying to be a columnist.If you were truely a columnist you would stop taking orders from Obama,directly or indirectly, the Fox people don't.Maybe that's why they are so popular with over 70% of the population.Oh! and by the way I'm neither Republican nor Democrat as I see the majority of them as white collar crooks.But as for being the biggest liar,crook,two faced,and racist your Obama takes the cake.Yes I am very anti to anyone who can not be honest and tell the whole story truthfully.You and Obama must take long strolls together apparently.

Posted by: dollar_bil2 | August 24, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Greg must be a slow news day to bring Karen Hughes into the Mosque affair? First the liberals try to convince Bush to weight in on the Mosque affair and when he didn't attack one of Bush's minions. Greg gotta hand it to you pass the strawman hat. You liberals are so predictable. I know I'm a racist!

Posted by: hstad | August 24, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Gee, that's odd that old Karen, the Texas cowgirl, an SMU grad at that, has a bad memory on events as recent as this.

Why during the 2004 election she had such a good memory that she was supposedly able to recall how deeply shocked and offended she was by John Kerry's famous speech to the Congress on the Viet Nam War over 30 years earlier.

I'm not saying she's a liar.

I'm just going to say that she's someone who worked for Geroge W. Bush for a long time.

Posted by: mamzic | August 24, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

As Bush was demonstrably incompetent is so many countless ways, why would you assume that he would choose an Imam without screwing that up too? The odds are very high that Bush picked the wrong guy to be Mr. Moderate Islam Outreach. Slinging the "but Bush certified this guy as moderate" argument around as a gotcha point is just sissy weak.

Also, next time it may behoove the bridge building religious crowd to actually build more small bridges that eventually lead to a big bridge, instead of simply plopping a five star big bridge building next to an open wound and expecting interfaith kumbaya to erupt.

Posted by: bobopapal | August 24, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Does it surprise me that you are taking everything the Imam says as "gospel" and that you infer that she is being dishonest?
No, she is afterall, a Republican.

Why don't you question the Imam if he said that the U.S. has more blood on its hands than Al Queda? Or, if he stated that the U.S. caused the 9/11 attacks? Actually, it's on tape so I guess it would be impossible for him to deny it. A goodwill ambassador? I am beginning to suspect that he the Bush administration as well as the Obama administration.

Posted by: bethg1841 | August 24, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Writing of the Stalinists in Budapest and the use of rhetoric to mobilize public opinion Judt wrote, "...the 'Public' were not being asked to believe what heard; they were merely being trained to repeat it.

Karen Hughes isn't about to let the facts get in the way of a good piece of propaganda. The modern GOP conservative isn't about policy, governance, or dialogue. It's all spin. And there is no debate, only heresies and enemies. They are Stalinist through and through.

Posted by: HeavyD1 | August 24, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

TakingOffSoon wrote:

FYI janet8:

"Those ships were an aid convey, with no weapons on them, and not escorted by armed Palestinians or any other country's armed forces. The Israeli's tactic is to oppress and humiliate the Palestinians, and deprive them of the basics of life that we in the rest of the world take for granted.

Their brutal, illegal and murderous invasion of that aid flotilla and the subsequent kidnapping of the passengers"

Israel had every right to stop the flotilla and delay those on board those ships for questioning.

If that Turkish ship had no weapons how did the Israeli soldiers get stabbed? I saw one thrown overboard as soon as he attempted to board the ship.

As far as the Palestinians, they are not the innocent victims you portray them to be. Nice try.

I guess your a Hamas sympathizer too.

Posted by: janet8 | August 24, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of selective amnesia, I wonder if Greg Sargent can remember the gushing sycophantic praise Greg lavished on Obama for the spineless one's support of the Ground Zero Mosque?

Just before POTUS Zero did a complete 180 & said that "support" for terrorist Theme Park51 didn't mean "support" in that location there that close to Ground Zero.

Which left Sargent looking even MOrE of a suck-up, dick-breath, butt-boy for Obambi than Greg usually is, which is very very MUCH.

Posted by: djman1141 | August 25, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

alberto gonzales couldn't remember if he was appointed Attorney General

karen hughes admitting she is a stupid clod doesn't surprise me

george bush blamed his whole presidency on bad advice

and karen hughes was one of his advisers ...

Posted by: nada85484 | August 25, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Pointing out a silly obfuscation by Karen Hughes sure brings out the fury of Obama haters. Wonder what they're so upset about? Poor inbred Caucasians ... the world's changing (and growing darker) right before your eyes, isn't it?

Posted by: IronGiant1000 | August 25, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

All, here's what's really at stake in Mosque fight: It reveals the Cheney-ization of the GOP

Yes, Greg, you pathetic third-rate double-digit IQ hypocrite, those Cheney-followers Harry reid, Howard Dean and very many Demonrat politicians who are following their constituents who have a better sense of decency and right/wrong than you do. And since 70% of the American people are anti-mosque, that must mean, to an America-hater like yourself, that they're wrong!

How do you look in the mirror in the morning without retching?

Posted by: djman1141 | August 25, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I've been in the middle on this issue since the beginning. The Constitution obviously protects the right for the Mosque to be built, but emotional opposition is not unwarranted either.
Sam Harris had a great Op Ed in the Washington Post yesterday. He mentions an obvious way that the anger toward the Imam and Mosque could be quelled.

Posted by: RyanC1384 | August 25, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

If Ms Hughes can't remember anything about her previous life in the WH, perhaps she be so kind as to return the money we taxpayers so graciously payed her during this time period.

And could she do so in cash since her lack of memory might have affected her ability to balance her checking account, too.

Posted by: G_Hayes | August 25, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

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