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Closing the book on Christine O'Donnell Oxford flap

By now you may have heard that the claim that Christine O'Donnell studied at Oxford has now turned up on a second O'Donnell online resume, this one from ZoomInfo.

I've got some more information on what happened from ZoomInfo, and it seems to strongly undercut O'Donnell's claim that her LinkedIn bio making the same Oxford fib was unauthorized or unknown to her.

To back up: This morning, the Democratic National Committee pointed out that O'Donnell is also described in a ZoomInfo entry as having achieved a "certificate" in "Post Modernism in the New Millennium" from the "University of Oxford." The Zoom Info entry was labled, "user verified."

ZoomInfo, which has spent the day looking into this, has sent over a statement detailing what happened with this profile. According to the company, O'Donnell's profile was claimed in 2008 through something called a "double opt-in process."

The company says this process cannot function without "response to a verification e-mail message." ZoomInfo is not releasing that email address, citing privacy. But here's the rub: The company is confirming that they have identified the emailer:

We can say, however, that the email address was not of an anonymous nature -- that is, the address was not from a personal free email service and contained identifying information. ZoomInfo's Terms of Service require users to agree that they will not "impersonate any person or entity or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent" their affiliation with a person or entity.

The company is also confirming that O'Donnell -- or whoever claimed the profile -- would have had ample opportunity to change any wrong info, and that after it was claimed, it could not be changed any other way:

All persons who claim profiles on ZoomInfo have the opportunity to review, update, delete and change information that ZoomInfo has compiled from other sources. In addition, persons who claim their profiles may add information of their choosing, including employment and educational history. All employment history (titles and companies), educational background, etc. is "locked" when the registrant claims the profile. Our automated system does not add any new titles, companies or educational records to claimed profiles, even if we find new Web articles and update a profile with these references.

In other words, ZoomInfo knows who claimed this profile and verified the information. And in response to my questions, it's not disputing the idea that it was claimed by O'Donnell or someone apparently authorized by her to do so. Keep in mind: The company could say this wasn't done by O'Donnell or someone authorized by her without violating the poster's privacy.

Indeed, they are not disputing this even after the company suggested to HuffPo's Sam Stein earlier today that O'Donnell herself claimed the profile.

The O'Donnell campaign has not yet put out any statements about this second episode.

UPDATE, 4:52 p.m.: Still more: TPM reports that the 2002 resume O'Donnell submitted to the Claremont Institute claimed she'd studied at Oxford in 2001, the same year she did the Phoenix Institute course.

This seemingly confirms beyond doubt that she fibbed about this, and makes it even more likely that her claim she had nothing to do with her LinkedIn profile was a falsehood to cover up another falsehood.

By Greg Sargent  | September 30, 2010; 4:01 PM ET
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FRAUD.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 30, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

GOP = FRAUD.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 30, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The O'Donnell saga continues...
Seems her group SALT could lose its non-profit status for failing to file tax forms.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/APNewsBreak-ODonnell-apf-1760658125.html?x=0&.v=1

Posted by: carolanne528 | September 30, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

First one didn't take.

I'm sick of the lying and scheming Tea Party Republicans.

Anyone with a SHRED of decency would never vote for an entire political system -- RNC, NRCC, NRSC, Tea Party -- made up entirely of scheming liars whose whole mission is to destroy the American government.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 30, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Game...set...match.

On a side note.

I've been put on perma moderation at firedog lake. Guess the queen doesn't like opposing viewpoints. There's a name for that.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 30, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Of course, we all KNOW that no one ever violates Terms of Service ; )

Even if Christine O'Donnell personally posted that she received a "certificate" in "Post Modernism in the New Millennium" she did, in fact, get that while studying at the "University of Oxford."

I agree, case closed.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington:

What's the name for getting banned here?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2. The difference is I wasn't harassing or spamming the site trying to be a nuisance.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 30, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I highly doubt this will stop her defenders.

Posted by: nisleib | September 30, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

TPM has a photo of O'Donnell posing with Ozzy Ozborne.

I'm gettin the impression that she is far more concerned with becoming famous than being moral. Typical.

Posted by: nisleib | September 30, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

What a ridiculous issue - the study abroad class WAS on the campus of Oxford, right?


I don't think Christine O'Donnell is RIDING ON HER ACADEMICS in this election - does anyone???

So, what she studied in England - is someone going to say - the PROPER name of the country is Great Britain?


This is completely ridiculous - OH MAYBE she really DIDN'T STUDY IN ENGLAND - because the class was conducted by Americans who just rented a room in England.


This is ridiculous -


If the democrats find that the American People have tuned them OUT - and NOTHING WORKS THIS YEAR - this is one of the reasons why that is the case.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

"Ya know, that there Senate stuff is *hard*. Like, omigod! I have to sit on all these committees and I can barely understand all this legal mumbo jumbo. I sure hope my staff can understand it because I sure can't. Maybe Sarah has the right idea: I'll serve for a year or two, resign and then really have a platform for my views on FOX."

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | September 30, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I think when the voters go to the voting booth - they are going to ask themselves - HOW did Obama do on the economy?


And they will remember that Obama pushed the economic issues ASIDE to do a health care program that is HURTING THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW.


They will not remember a commercial about Ground Zero - they won't be thinking about whether the room was rented at Oxoford, or who was the adminstrator of a course - held ON Oxford's campus.


The ECONOMY is the issue.


Do they want to keep Obama and the democrats (who can't even pass a budget) or do they WANT A NEW TEAM ???


I will go with the NEW TEAM.


Obama should resign - be a MAN and admit he has no idea what he is doing.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I took down Weigel, and changed Cillizza's comments to nothing http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/confronting_islamophobic_consp.htmlmore than a Twitter feed, so it can't hurt to try it again.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 11:31 AM |
......................

I notice that this guy, who openly admits that he is here just to vandalize and destroy Plumline, is still being allowed to try and do his worst.

Why is that? Would any sane person keep letting some guy, who says he plans to destroy your place, continue to enter their place?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

It really is quite amusing to watch the crazies try to argue that by saying "She just said she studied *at* Oxford and that's true--the class was on Oxford's campus!" they're defending her. Pretty weak, all.

Posted by: Michigoose | September 30, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I took down Weigel, and changed Cillizza's comments to nothing http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/confronting_islamophobic_consp.htmlmore than a Twitter feed, so it can't hurt to try it again.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 11:31 AM |
......................

I notice that this guy, who openly admits that he is here just to vandalize and destroy Plumline, is still being allowed to try and do his worst.

Why is that? Would any sane person keep letting some guy, who says he plans to destroy your place, continue to enter their place?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

ChuckinDenton:

As if any the Dem Senators READ bills before they vote!

nisleib:

Jesus broke bread with sinners, horror of horrors!

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

TPM has a very informative history of Christine O' Donnell's many resume changes, in recent years.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/educating-christine-odonnell-linkedin-gate-lawsuits-and-late-degrees-color-senate-hopefuls-resume.php?ref=fpa


How does that old song go?

Grifting Along With The Fumbling Bumbling.... is it?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Liam - No doubt. He and SpamTheBlogToDeath need the boot. It is NOT like there aren't rightwing blogs. They aren't here to debate anything honestly; they are here to ruin it for the rest of us.

Is there anyway we can arrange it so when they try to come here they get redirected to FDL instead? They'd love it there.

Posted by: nisleib | September 30, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

All, see the updated I added


closes book completely

Posted by: Greg Sargent | September 30, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Michigoose:

The primary defense is that she did not create the LinkedIn bio.

Liar-still:

This is hardly my "worst" ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

@Liam: "Would any sane person keep letting some guy, who says he plans to destroy your place, continue to enter their place?"

Are you calling Greg insane?

Posted by: sbj3 | September 30, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

nisleib,

Anyone who openly states that he is here to vandalize and shut down the site, should be shown the door, and not allowed back.

Greg needs to throw out the Vandal before he can do his worst, as he has said he plans to do.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

drip drop drip drop

I imagine there are a few red faced Tealibans out there today.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 30, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Liam-still at 4:46 PM

Jake is not ruining this place.

If anything, your attitude is worse than Jake's.


You harass other posters -


You discourage the posting of opposing views.


And You quibble about silly things, like you did last night.


In fact, your quibbling nonsense last night led you to argue both sides of the same issue - you confused yourself you were so eager to be contrarian.


Your side is about to lose a great deal of seats in Congress - and offices around the country. Obama has FAILED - and he will go down in history as worse than Jimmy Carter.


It is time to accept that, and not take out your anger on other people.


.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Greg - Ah, but don't you see? According to Jake she didn't, "Tell a lie," because she, "Told lies."

Jake, in great detail, told us the other day how lying was just groovy, so long as you told multiple lies. Or something like that.

Now let us sit back and watch the wingers engage in what they would call, if a liberal were doing it, Clintonian parsing.

Posted by: nisleib | September 30, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Jake--pretty sure that defense is too weak to hold water, too.

Besides, weren't you one of the ones yesterday arguing the "she DID study *at* Oxford" defense??

Posted by: Michigoose | September 30, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

sbj3,

I notice that you keep throwing little hissy fits because Harry Reid is run ads against Sharron Obtuse Angle, based on things she has actually stated.

Why does that upset you so much. It never seem to upset you, when all those rabid tea party types were spreading outright lies about President Obama.

Stop your whining, you pathetic little hypocrite.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2: Making a statement with the intent to mislead is a lie, irrespective of the faux-clever sentence structure, i.e., so that one may declare, hide behind, "technical truth." Shame on you for feigning ignorance, or may one assume that your declaration of once being a lawyer can be categorized similarly?

Posted by: curtisemayle | September 30, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I took down Weigel, and changed Cillizza's comments to nothing more than a Twitter feed, so it can't hurt to try it again.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 11:31 AM |
....................

Anyone who openly states that he is here to vandalize and shut down the site, should be shown the door, and not allowed back.

Greg needs to throw out the Vandal before he can do his worst, as he clearly is promising to do.


Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

"Seemingly confirms" [jumping to the wrong conclusions] = "closes book completely"

And I thought the right-wing was supposedly not reality based?!

SHE STUDIED AT OXFORD. Why is that so hard for you libs to understand?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Funny how the Harry Reid ads are not out-of-bounds but the Republicans' ads are inappropriate.


I say, everyone run on getting rid of the mosque at Ground Zero - this issue is a winner - it shows how out-of-touch Obama and the democrats are.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

nisleib:

I never said "she didn't 'Tell a lie,' because she 'Told lies.'" Nice try though.

curtisemayle:

No.

Lair-still:

You've posted the same thing FOUR times on this thread.

mikefromArlington:

Who is "spamming" now?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I remember when Christian behavior did not include so much lying.

Posted by: ANDYO1 | September 30, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

@liam: Do you also hit the sauce this hard when you are out GOTV? Probably not a good idea... "Honey! There's a drunk old man at the door and he wants me to vote for Obama. I told him Obama wasn't running and he called me a fleabagger."

@Greg - please post something else - this is devolving into utter silliness.

Posted by: sbj3 | September 30, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Shorter SBJ:

"I am losing the argument, so Greg, please change subjects"

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Poor Joke. Poor poor pathetic Joke.

O'Donnell has tried to back away from the claim that she studied at Oxford, yet here is this cretin STILL saying the entry was accurate.

Poor Joke.

Posted by: Observer691 | September 30, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

ANDYO1:

I don't think that Mr. Sargent has ever claimed to be a Christian.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, there, Jake--you're pushing that crazy argument again!

sbj is right about the silliness factor here. . .

Posted by: Michigoose | September 30, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

My Riddle Of The Day:

What was the first big lie, that Christine O'Donnell ever told on TV?

Answer: "I never tell a lie".

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

PS Hey Joke, what about her lie that she studied at Claremont Graduate University? You can't use the "at" nonsense on this lie, because she studied across town at Claremont Institute, an UNAFFILIATED school.

Game, set, and match: O'Donnell is a liar, and Joke is a loser.

Posted by: Observer691 | September 30, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

NOT one posting on how Obama went back on his pledges from 2008 in Afghanistan - with the proof of Woodward's book.


Instead, we are quibbling about whether a classroom was rented at Oxford -


Or whether the "study abroad" experience was significantly different because the room was rented, instead of the class actually being put on by Oxford.


This is really SILLY - and you know what, this HELPS Christine O'Donnell, because it cheapens everything else said about her.

This whole issue discredits those who want to criticize her.


Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I think the lamestream media should just try to catalogue the things O'Donnell says that are NOT lies. That'll be a lot easier.

Posted by: Observer691 | September 30, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

And not take nearly as much bandwidth. . .

Posted by: Michigoose | September 30, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

The RNC must have known all this stuff about Christine for quite sometime, since they went all out to defeat her.

How would a replacement candidate be selected, if she pulls out off the race?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Poor STRF. He's as pathetic as Joke.

No, STRF, we are not quibbling about whether a room was rented at Oxford. Only a LIAR would claim to have studied at Oxford in a rented room when the course of study had NOTHING else to do with Oxford.

I'd say the whole issue discredits those who insist on defending O'Donnell, but you already have zero credibility.

Posted by: Observer691 | September 30, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Studied at Oxford; My Arse!!!

The dingbat could not pour piss out of an Oxford, even if the instructions were printed on the side of the heel.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Observer691 at 5:27 PM


Sure you are quibbling - how much difference is this course from a summer course actually offered by Oxford? Seriously, do you have any idea?


The point of "study abroad" is to get experience in another country-


If Christine O'Donnell had left the impression that the course was in Pheonix, that would be wrong. The course WAS AT OXFORD.


To be honest, I have NO IDEA which institution put on the courses I attended abroad - Im sure if you went on such a PROGRAM, YOU DON'T EITHER.

What does this really have to do with what voters CARE about> the ECONOMY.


.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

What The American People Care About Is Cabbage Flavored Frozen Custard.

The American People Do Not Like It.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

STRF: No one gives a crap about whatever gibberish you are spewing. No one cares about the course content. And yes, people know who is putting on the courses they take. If you claim you didn't, you're a liar too.

The course was NOT offered/taught by Oxford. Renting out the room just doesn't cut it. O'Donnell has been found out. End of story.

Posted by: Observer691 | September 30, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I believe Rahm Emanuel has a real residency problem


If the tenant had left, and Rahm was back at the same address, his case would be stronger.


However, in Rahm's case the situation is different - there are logs stating clearly where he was every day.


Other candidates may be able to dispute where they were sleeping - how many nights here, how many there. But there are White House logs which are clear.


The statements by some democratic hack at the Board of Elections - one has to wonder. It is CLEAR that Rahm has not been living in Chicago - he rented out his house and that has now been in the newspapers.


If the tenant left quietly and it wasn't on the front page of a newspaper, things would have been different.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Observer--sshhhhhhhh

We're trying to ignore the forest spam. . .

Posted by: Michigoose | September 30, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

So, Greg, because Zoominfo is not confirming or denying your "witch hunt", you've made the final call. Big job you've got there -- judge and jury.

Posted by: bethg1841 | September 30, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Fire Dog Lake is now censoring moderate democratic view points - or the left


So the far left is now sick of the near left?


Quite hilarious.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

That update truly does put the last nail in the O'Donnell honesty coffin.

~~~~~~

One thing we know is true: Christine O'Donnell was a Lincoln Fellow at the Claremont Institute in 2002. The rest, as we've closely chronicled, is all a bit fuzzy.

But TPM just spoke with a Claremont official who reviewed O'Donnell's 2002 application file. Ryan Williams, who oversees the Lincoln Fellowship program, told us that O'Donnell lists a certificate from Oxford University on her resume. "She did have a line about Oxford," he said as he looked at her file, which also included an essay and letters of recommendation.

Williams told us the item on O'Donnell's resume reads:

Oxford University, Oxford, UK Certificate awarded Summer 2001

But O'Donnell did not attend Oxford. She received a certificate from a summer seminar program called the Phoenix Institute, which was housed on the Oxford campus. A Phoenix spokesman told the Washington Post's Greg Sargent the use of Oxford was "misleading."

~~~~~~~

Wow, when the people at Phoenix say you are misleading...

Posted by: nisleib | September 30, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

From TPM

"Christine O'Donnell was a Lincoln Fellow at the Claremont Institute in 2002. The rest, as we've closely chronicled, is all a bit fuzzy.

But TPM just spoke with a Claremont official who reviewed O'Donnell's 2002 application file. Ryan Williams, who oversees the Lincoln Fellowship program, told us that O'Donnell lists a certificate from Oxford University on her resume. "She did have a line about Oxford," he said as he looked at her file, which also included an essay and letters of recommendation.

Williams told us the item on O'Donnell's resume reads:

Oxford University, Oxford, UK Certificate awarded Summer 2001

But O'Donnell did not attend Oxford. She received a certificate from a summer seminar program called the Phoenix Institute, which was housed on the Oxford campus. A Phoenix spokesman told the Washington Post's Greg Sargent"

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

So, Greg, because Zoominfo is not confirming or denying your "witch hunt", you've made the final call. Big job you've got there -- judge and jury.

Posted by: bethg1841 | September 30, 2010 5:46 PM
.................
They have confirmed it.

"A ZoomInfo spokesman told Huffington Post the information was provided by O'Donnell."

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Observer691 at 5:27 PM


Any liberal who sees to complaining about the "quality" of my postings - they can take a look at this thread.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Ryan Williams, who oversees the Lincoln Fellowship program, told us that O'Donnell lists a certificate from Oxford University on her resume.
-----------------------------------
So much for the "I have NO idea who is sabotaging my resume. Must be my enemies! It isn't me. It ISN'T me."

Thank you captain obvious.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I have attended several MLB games at both Sox Park, and Wrigley field.

I am now getting read to pull a Christine, and adjust my bio, to read;

Participated in many Major League Baseball Games, in both the American and National Leagues, over the past ten years.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

The women suffers from multiple personalities disorders. Evil Christine posts all those lies, and Chaste Christine gets blamed for it. Yeah that's the ticket. No wait; I posted all those lies about her. Yeah, that's the ticket. Me, and my wife, Morgan Fairchild posted all those lies about Chaste Christine. Yeah, that's the ticket!!!

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Observer691 at 5:38 PM


The course was AT Oxford.


What really is the difference? Not much.


You are so desperate to call Christine O'Donnell a liar, you have lost all sense of proportion.


And seriously, if you studied abroad, WHO put on the course you took years ago?


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Just heard on local radio:

The plot thickens. Meg Whitman said "we never got a letter from SS informing us of SS # matching problems". Well, there is a letter from SS, dated 2003, saying just that, with Meg's husband's writing on the bottom telling the maid to check it out.

So much for "we never got a letter". Damn the details anyway.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see that all you Obamacrats are still obsessing over The Good Little Witch. It's such a nice distraction for you from the coming storms in November.

I just can't believe you guys are wasting this much ink and energy over one who can't possibly win.

Maybe you ought to look at all the races where your fellow Obamatons are in trouble.

There's many to choose from.


Posted by: battleground51 | September 30, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

As I understand it, the letter has been released to the press, so we should see copies of it fairly soon.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

12Bar

You are like a fly on soda, huh?

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are going to take control of the Senate this year, with or without Christine O'Donnell.


No one cares about where her summer study abroad was - and fewer people care which institution ran the course - it was on the campus at Oxford.


It is a none-issue.

The issue is the ECONOMY


Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

More regarding the letter that "we did not get":

Ok, here's the letter. See page 2 for the husband's writing and note to the maid. He even started to fill out the form.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/30/MN3P1FMCVT.DTL

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

OK come on Washington Post,

I think you folks do a great job of sorting the trash and making a real effort to present things in a balanced mannor.

In this case however, calling numerous resume postings, with false information a "fib" is really stretching it.

O'Donnell "lied", flat out lied, and then lied about lying. There is no spin for this one.

Posted by: alpacaman1 | September 30, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

this woman said she would not lie even to save anne franks life if hitler was at her door, but doesnt seem to have the same resolve when it comes to her resume.
strange priorities.

Posted by: motown2641 | September 30, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Well, in Christine's little world; lying on a resume is just a venial sin, but lying to the Nazis would be committing a mortal sin.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Christine would have attended all of those schools, but she believes matriculation is a sin.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | September 30, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet you $5 on this:

Meg Whitman is way too smart to keep up the "we didn't get this letter". Nor will she swerve to the "this is an obvious fraud made up by my political opponents." I'll bet she will say, obviously we got the letter, I forgot about it (or my husband didn't tell me), I was very busy and it just slipped my attention.

Christine O'Donnell will continue to say "it wasn't me. It is some evil person who doesn't want me to get ahead."

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Bad Vibrations?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Christine O'Donnell cannot claim any course credits from Oxford University. She can however, claim credits for this course from Phoenix University. Therein lies the difference. The geographical location makes no difference whatsoever, it is the institution that offers the course, hires the professor teaching the course and issues credits for the course once it is completed. The only institution in this case is Phoenix University. The rest of you RWNJ's proclaiming that because she studied at Oxford University, she can claim credits from there, are deaf, dumb and blind. Is it intentional??

Since when did it become OK to repeatedly lie like this woman has done? Now we find out that SALT has not filed financial disclosure forms for three years. Is this ANOTHER mistake or someone else's responsibility? O'Donnell refuses to accept responsibility for any of the mistakes she has made or lies she has told.

If you read her resume, she'd have us believe that she was instrumental in developing the strategy that allowed the GOP to regain control of Congress in 1994, at the extremely young age of 23. However, she doesn't want to be held responsible for anything she said during that time period because she was so young. Which is it, Christine? You were allegedly valuable to the GOP, which I don't doubt for a moment is another little white lie or an extreme exxaggeration on your part, or you were an irresponsible young woman who can't be held accountable for what you did or said in your early 20's?

Posted by: KATE1230 | September 30, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

How is this "closing the book" on her lies? It seems like it's opening it -- and a can of worms. She apparently lied not only about attending Oxford, but about the timing of her degree from another college, and fudged a third college.

She is a flat out, shameless, sociopathic liar. Is this the kind of person tea partiers really believe will be a breath of fresh air in Washington?

Wow.

Posted by: donquixote3 | September 30, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"The course was AT Oxford.


What really is the difference? Not much."

I'm now utterly convinced STRF is a liberal plant here to buck us up!

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | September 30, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse


I'll bet you $5 on this:

Meg Whitman is way too smart to keep up the "we didn't get this letter". Nor will she swerve to the "this is an obvious fraud made up by my political opponents." I'll bet she will say, obviously we got the letter, I forgot about it (or my husband didn't tell me), I was very busy and it just slipped my attention.

Christine O'Donnell will continue to say "it wasn't me. It is some evil person who doesn't want me to get ahead."

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 6:17 PM

...................

The next shoe to fall on the Meg Whitman Maid story:

Did either Meg or her husband ever check back with the maid, or will Gloria Allred trot out the maid again, to claim that the maid told one of the Whitman's, back in 2003, when the SS letter arrived, that she did not have legal status. Of course she might also say, that Mr. Whitman never even asked her to look into it, and him writing that on the SS letter, does not really prove that he did.

Since he admits in writing being aware that her papers were suspect, seven years ago, it becomes very hard for them to now explain how she remained with them for such a long time, without they ever taking follow up steps to get the matter cleared up.

This story has legs, and every day that Meg has to spend on defense, is a good day for Jerry Brown.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"And I thought the right-wing was supposedly not reality based?!

SHE STUDIED AT OXFORD. Why is that so hard for you libs to understand?
"

Let's see... if I walk into a library at MIT and spend several hours studying a book on astronomy, does that mean I can claim I studied at MIT on my resume?

God but you are stupid. She didn't study at Oxford, she took some summer class that was sited on the Oxford campus, but had nothing to do with the actual university or it's actual faculty. Not too hard to understand.

Posted by: lcrider1 | September 30, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Every day that is a good day for Jerry Brown is a bad day for Californians... "Governor Moonbeam" back for more - I can't believe it.

Posted by: sbj3 | September 30, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"I'll bet she will say, obviously we got the letter, I forgot about it (or my husband didn't tell me), I was very busy and it just slipped my attention."

Agree, 12bar.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | September 30, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse


"The course was AT Oxford.


What really is the difference? Not much."

I'm now utterly convinced STRF is a liberal plant here to buck us up!

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | September 30, 2010 6:19 PM
.............

I think we need to come up with a name for this ingenious Christine O'Donnell method of claiming experience by proximity.

Scholastic Osmosis?

or

Pulling An O'Do?

Suggest some more names please folks.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

@liam,

What is SO ironic about the Meg/Maidgate story is how managed Meg Whitman's campaign is. Reporters who follow her here say she comes in like a Presidential entourage. NO money is spared, huge screens, professional posters and banners, and legions of supporting staff. Then there's Jerry Brown who has no entourage and drove himself there in his own car.

Anyway, for Meg's campaign to be subject to this Maidgate thing, in what must feel to them like "out of nowhere" must be horrifying. Apparently, they are now not even returning phone calls.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues

I think I have figured out what happened. Seven years ago, when the Whitmans received that SS letter, Meg had not yet contractedthe political bug, and had not any plans in mind to seek public office. Therefore; they could afford to take the entire; is she legal or not legal question very lightly, because it would be just a minor blip in their every day lives.

Now, that she has decided to run as a Right of Center Republican, and has to establish her Tough On Illegal Immigrants Bona Fides, the maid's legal status has come back to haunt, them in a way that it would never have, had Meg never run for governor, as a stepping stone to the White House.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

lcrider1:

According to Chris Flether, who oversaw the Institute’s 2001 Oxford Summer Programme, OXFORD professors actually taught the summer seminar (but that won't keep you from lying about it).

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

McDonald's is really throwing Obama under the bus- with the health care plan - with a story that McDonald's may drop 30,000 people from the health care plan -


This will dump ALL those people onto Obama's plan - and making them eligible for subsidies.


If companies all over the country did that - the costs of Obama's plan will SKYROCKET.


.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 30, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

All, Happy Hour Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/happy_hour_roundup_99.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | September 30, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

@liam,

That's the way I see it too. Meg didn't give a fig about her housekeeper's status, and neither did her husband obviously. They (or he) probably made some small attempt to try to solve it, then delegated to the illegal housekeeper, who naturally, did nothing. In 2009, the housekeeper asked Meg to help her get status (that would have taken some effort on Meg's part and probably money to pay an immigration lawyer) and out she goes.

Meg didn't even vote. Why would she care about immigration status. She doesn't care now, except to get elected.

But, she's not dumb. She won't do the O'Do and keep lying. She'll 'fess up and try to move on.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues

Meg can try to move on, but unless she makes a large settlement with Gloria Allred, it will not go away. That woman is a legal pit bull, even with her red lipstick on , and once she sinks her teeth in, she never lets go, until she has sated her appetite.

I hope it drags on for a while, because, as I have said before; every day that Meg has to play defense on this issue, is a very good day for Jerry Brown.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

"The course was AT Oxford.


What really is the difference? Not much."

Yes, I'm sure when Stephen Hawking was contemplating his education, he was thinking "Hmmm....Oxford or the Phoenix Institute? I just can't decide...."

Posted by: schrodingerscat | September 30, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Meg is smart. She'll try to move on as fast as possible. But Allred is a junkyard dawg as you say. If it only takes money to make Gloria go away, I'll bet Meg's got her checkbook out as we speak.

But, I'll bet money will not make it go away. Meg could have paid this lady money and gotten a confidentiality agreement last year.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 30, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

No wonder we are ending up with all these crackpot nominees, such O'Do and Angle.

What person in their right mind would want to put their self through so much scrutiny, to try and persuade voters to elect them, and to then berate the hell out of them 24/7 year after year.

In a way, it is a sort of poetic justice for those billionaire types who try to purchase a ego boosting election trophy.

When you compare and contrast, it shows how truly smart Bill Gates really is, compared to all those other fat cats who are willing to abase their selves to try and purchase an election.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues

I am logging out for the night. Enjoy your evening.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 30, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Its because of this media scrutiny that O'donnel has joined Palin in a sort of media bunker created by fox news that allows you to fire at your opponents but will protect you from ever having to encounter your enemy,(and pay you to do it). Palin knew O'donnel would be destroyed withing seconds if she was allowed to defend herself in a fair and open way.

Posted by: motown2641 | September 30, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Don't you independents get it? The Tea Party wants America's government to fail. They'll nominate anyone who wants this nation to go down.

Liars, cheats, hate-mongers, Anti-American zealots. Such is the stuff the Tea Party is made of.

The Republicans are no longer the party of Eisenhower. He'd be ashamed to call himself a Republican now after sending our brave solders to die for our nation.

Posted by: kcbob | September 30, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone here surprised that she was once again caught in her web of lies? Had she been hired by a corporation from that bogus resume she would have been immeditely terminated for cause and even her defenders know that

Why don't we just call them the Rationalizers. They defend the indefensible. Tell these deniers it is thursday and they will scream no that is just another liberal conspiracy. Their candidate for Governor fails to do a basic search to check whether her employee is an illegal, and they scream liberal, b/c that is all they got. And Christine's sole defense. The Statute of Limitations has passed to prosecute her for perjury(from her false testimony in her litigation) so you can't do a durn thing about it. I dae any conservative here to claim that if they were Christine's boss who had hired her based upon that resume that they wouldn't fire her on the spot when they discovered how inaccurate it was.

Posted by: leichtman1 | September 30, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The only people who will vote for this pathological liar are stone-cold imbeciles like JakeD2. I think Delaware's going to be alright.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | September 30, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

bigbrother1:

You are calling the 30,561 people who voted for her already in the GOP primary "stone-cold imbeciles"? She also received 140,584 votes when she ran against Biden in 2008. Perhaps you could provide even ONE example of something she's lied about?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 30, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 said "SHE STUDIED AT OXFORD. Why is that so hard for you libs to understand?"

Jake, imagine I get a job interview and my resume is O'Donnell's. My interviewer looks at it, and says, "oh, I see you took a course at Oxford. Can you tell me something about that?"

How should I answer? What if he asks me follow-up questions about Oxford? If I just go along and not clarify that the class was merely on Oxford property, but not actually a class FROM Oxford, and I get the job, what do you think could happen if my new employer later finds out I did not, in fact, take a class from Oxford?

Posted by: hitpoints | September 30, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2: ... and 18% of Americans don't know whether the sun or Earth is the center of the solar system. Intellectually speaking, what's your point?

Posted by: curtisemayle | September 30, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

First, let me state that there are a lot of good posts here. Some others that are just drivel but mostly good thoughts.

Mr. Rainforrest, I do question some of your thoughts in theory. First, you state that it doesn't matter that this woman posted because she sort of took a class at Oxford. C'mon, we all know that she intended to post Oxford as one of the worlds exclusive institutions as a way to mislead. There are a few things that have come up that will prevent her from being elected, this just being another one.

But you seem keyed in on the President. He should resign? Really? Like his policies or not, he has followed through and gotten a lot of his campaign promised and his platforms passed through. And he has no chance of being as bad a President as his predecessor no matter what happens.

The economy. You said that's all anyone cares about and this is why he should resign because he knows nothing about it. Again, really? You have got to be kidding me on this one. Towards the end of the Bush administration and up through the election there wasn't a Republican candidate that wanted to talk about the economy. Why? Because they knew it was them who caused this mess and because they didn't have a plan that could get us out of it. Cutting taxes to the wealthy doesn't solve the economy. Look at the result of Reagenomics.

Lastly is the healthcare. As so many Republicans do, you seem to get all of your news from Fox. This is ok, I like Fox myself. They have cute girls and they are entertaining. CNN should take a cue. But as a news source, they lost their status as journalists years ago. They go out looking for stories they can twist to stir up their loyalists. This story is the perfect example. Do a google search on mcdonalds healthcare and you'll get 3 or 4 stories on this one ALL of them stating that it's completely false what Fox reported and that it's not going to happen.

Maybe you can keep to being a bit more even keel and just share your opinions and not go crazy with people resigning and big companies canceling insurance, etc.

Posted by: andrewc23 | September 30, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Even though I'm a Democrat, when Democratic Representative William Jefferson was found to have $90,000 in his freezer when being investigated for bribery, I thought, "oh, that's bad. He's got to go."

I did not say, "clearly, Representative Jefferson legitimately has one of those new special freezers that makes cash from water, like regular freezers make ice."

JakeD2 and STRF are doing the latter.

Posted by: hitpoints | September 30, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I think there is no question right now that we on the left are a bit desperate but I disagree that this desperation is borne of lack of accomplishment. Rather, it is the result of the poison that the right has put into the system and our utter frustration with the electoral landscape it has fostered.

The traction that the right has been able to achieve through its disingenuous attacks is disheartening to me and, I suspect, to many liberals. From "government takeover" to "death panels" to "bailouts" to "unprecedented debt" to "not a single job" ....

Now, a Christine O'Donnell comes along and the rightwingers, here at least, are even willing to defend her ridiculous lies so, yes, we are ready to attack. These people the GOP is running ARE nuts - Joe Miller, Sharron Angle, Rand Paul, Christine O'Donnell....

Is this really where the country wants to go? I don't think so and I think we are all going to regret it if Jim Demint and Dick Armey get control of this country.

Posted by: pragmaticstill | September 30, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

This is the kind of crap they are saying:

Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA): I tell ya, we’ve got some new problems in Washington. Big problems. Just today, Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta said people in America are not eating enough fruits and vegetables. They want to give all the power to the federal government to force you to eat more fruits and vegetables. This is what the federal, CDC, they gonna be calling you to make sure you eat fruits and vegetables, every day. This is socialism of the highest order!

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/30/broun-govt-calling-healthy/

Really? The CDC is "gonna be calling you to make sure you eat fruits and vegetables, every day?" Really?

These guys think they can say ANYTHING and the righties defend them.

Posted by: pragmaticstill | September 30, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Jake has such fun ideas about how to spruce up a resume and be telling the God's Honest Truth:

"I studied the Constitution under Tribe at Harvard." (I read a photocopy of the Constitution while standing in Harvard Yard and wearing a Cleveland Indians cap).

"I struck out Mays on three pitches." (I drew a line through the word "Mays" three times, each time while standing on a different soccer field).

"I had a part in a Woody Allen film." (I combed my hair while watching "Sleeper").

Posted by: bearclaw1 | September 30, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

@battleground51: "I'm glad to see that all you Obamacrats are still obsessing over The Good Little Witch. It's such a nice distraction for you from the coming storms in November. I just can't believe you guys are wasting this much ink and energy over one who can't possibly win."

Well, she's really an abysmal and completely unvetted candidate, and this unravelling is a complete vindication of none other that Karl Rove, who told everybody she was a terrible candidate. She's our Alvin Greene, and it's interesting how this election cycle could generate candidates like O'Donnell and Alvin Greene.

And, frankly, we could have won Delaware with Mike Castle. Mike Castle would have won the Biden seat. Was he ideal? No. Does he think scientist are creating mice with human brains, or that it would be a sin to lie to Hitler? (Okay, I'm over-simplifying, but she's still a rotten candidate).

The Republicans will win several seats in the house and senate come November (history shows the way, my friends), but it really could have been a bloodbath. Guaranteed wins in Delaware and Nevada? Now, that would have been some sweetness.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 30, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

The WITCH has some nerve.

Using Christ as a crutch to deny what she said.

Republican voters should have listened to Karl Rove!

Thomas Chi
Author
Selling Sex with Sarah Palin

Posted by: thomaschiinc | October 1, 2010 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or did anyone else notice the link to this article:

closing_the_book_on_the_christ

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 1, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

It is amazing how low the liberal nuts will stoop to attempt to discredit someone to push through their radical agenda. I'm sending in another contribution today to MS O'Donnell and proudly. Since I can't vote for her this is the least I can do. Remember people how easy it was for a college student to hack into Palin's e-mail. Do that to a Democrat and see how many years you spend behind bars. I hope O'Donnell can catch the crooks who did this and put them away for a very long time. Liberals play such childish games. Why in the world would we want any of them near running our government? How easy it is for the Democratic Politicians to fool so many who want their freebies handed to them for doing nothing but vote their way. They need to learn pride, working for a living, holding your own weight, take care of your own families, and get off the poor me attitude.

Posted by: joanne38 | October 1, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Jake, what part of "She never went to Oxford" don't you get? She took an ONLINE class from a group completely unaffiliated with Oxford!

Posted by: praz | October 1, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Excellent case of investigative journalism. Fully vetting every word of a Senator is of immense importance.

Figuring out the truth on a President, not so much, eh?

Posted by: red_nc | October 1, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Jake, what part of "She didn't go to Oxford" don't you get? She never set foot on the Oxford campus. She took an online class from an outfit with NO connection to Oxford Even someone with a fake JD should be able to understand that.

Posted by: praz | October 1, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

She DID set foot on the Oxford campus.

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 1, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Th point is not asmall one - which institution she went to. The point is that sh, along with so many Tea Partiers we are seeing - continues to lie about her past. It's a matter of trust. I she lies about her credentials, if anotehr lies about knowingly hiring an illegal alien, if others lie aboout what they have said regarding teir past actvities and positions, what does this say about their ability to represent a "moral" movement in politics? As to this "rainforest" character, anone who does a year of overseas study knows exactly who the sponsoring institution is - they are the ones to whom they pay their tuition, and who keep their grade transcripts. Or didn't you go to school? Your arguments are brainless.

Posted by: garoth | October 1, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

This is all the Democratics and establishment Republicans can come up with? That she factually stated she received a certificate she did in fact receive?

Posted by: kwijibo | October 1, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

garoth, do you also deny that Christine O'Donnell set foot on the Oxford campus?

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 1, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

curtisemayle:

My "point" was to see if bigbrother1 was REALLY intending to slur that many Delaware voters.

For anyone else still interested in "fake" LinkedIn bios (thinking they can't be done):

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/hillary-clinton/16/599/15b

HINT: she graduated from Yale Law, not Harvard, and it didn't take her six (6) years ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 1, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

If she lied...that is bad.

What I don't understand is why the left wing loons are so upset. Their whole agenda is built on lies. This administration and this congress lies to the american people every day.

So, I don't understand the animosity.

Posted by: jld731 | October 1, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

OK loony leftists, let's make a trade. O'Donnell lied, and Blumenthal, up in Connecticut, also lied about his military service, a far greater offense than O'Donnells. Let's remove both of them from their respective races. OK? Do we have a deal? No, you say? Well Why? Huh? Huh?

Posted by: getjiggly1 | October 2, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

She didn't lie, getjiggly1. Don't sell her short just yet. Scott Brown was considered a long shot one (1) month before his upset election in Massachusetts too.

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 2, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

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