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Fox relents: Will run ad tonight about News Corp $1 million donation against Dems

It took a few weeks, but Media Matters has finally succeeded in getting Fox News to run its ad about the $1 million donation its parent company News Corporation gave to the Republican Governors Association.

Fox has informed Media Matters the spot will run tonight during Bill O'Reilly's show, a Media Matters spokesperson tells me. In order to get Fox to agree to run the spot, the ad had to be tweaked several times, and here's the final version:

The final spot directly mentions that Fox has mostly avoided covering the dust up over the $1 million donation. "And now, a special message about a story that's not yet been covered on Fox News primetime," the narrator says.

Fox's unwillingness to air the ad turned into a bit of a soap opera, with the network repeatedly refusing to air the spot because of various objections to the script. An earlier version Fox objected to, for instance, accused Fox hosts of refusing to share this news with viewers. This has now been changed to a mere neutral observation that Fox primetime hasn't covered this news.

Fox News finally relented and told Politico recently that it would run the ad, but Fox execs suggested to Politico that they were skeptical it would ever run. Now, however, it will indeed grace Fox's airwaves.

The kicker: Media Matters confirms to me that the ad will run only once. The spot, of course, has now gotten plenty of free airtime from news outlets covering the dustup. Which means this gambit worked: Fox's initial refusal to air the spot earned it far more exposure than it otherwise would have received.

Either way, Fox primetime viewers will finally learn that fair and balanced Fox News's parent company gave $1 million "to oppose Democratic candidates for office this November."

By Greg Sargent  |  September 14, 2010; 12:47 PM ET
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Mark one for the informed consumer.

This should make the foxaholics heads explode.

OT but great news:

"The Senate has advanced a bill to create a $30 billion government fund to help open lending for credit-starved small businesses, handing President Barack Obama a long-sought victory....Sen. George Voinovich, a Republican who sided with party leaders in a delaying tactics in late July, has announced he will support the measure in Tuesday's vote. Voinovich would join all 57 Democrats and two independents who vote with them to break delaying tactics by Republicans protesting their inability to offer amendments to the measure."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SMALL_BUSINESS_LENDING?SITE=ORROS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I just wish that Fox News's parent company could afford to give $100 million "to oppose Democratic candidates for office this November" (like George Soros does to support left-wing fanatics).

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I wish they would run ads showing Prince Alaweed, major contributor to Imam Rauf and is also a 5% stake holder in the parent company of Fox.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

What will Fox do with the money they earn from the Ad? Donate it to The Republican Governors Association?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 14, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 makes up numbers and passes them on as factual.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

OT again but TMP posted a letter from Greer, the head of the Fl Republican party:

His full statement, as published in the Orlando Sentinel today:


I wanted to send you my thoughts about the Obama speech to kids ...

"In the year since I issued a prepared statement regarding President Obama speaking to the Nation's school children, I have learned a great deal about the party I so deeply loved and served. Unfortunately, I found that many within the GOP have racist views and I apologize to the President for my opposition to his speech last year and my efforts to placate the extremists who dominate our Party today. My children and I look forward to the President's speech."

Jim Greer

Hopefully SaveTheRainforest will come and enlighten us on how this is a Democratic plot to call Republicans racist to silence them, or something.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Palin/D'Souza 2012!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 12:22 PM .
................

This Birther Mope, now calls for having a guy born and raised in India, on the Republican ticket in 2012!!!

Posted by: Liam-still | September 14, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I detest Faux News as much as anyone. Fox News has literally become an oxymoron. They have changed the face of "journalism" at least what wingnuts call "journOlism" forever and not for the better.

Having said that...this is NOTHING...yeah all we political junkies will celebrate...but he average Fox viewer will not even connect News Corp with Fox News...and those who do want give a rat's arse.

Again the R's in general and particularly those watch faux news are not moved by FACTS. They remind me of little children who when confronted with an unpleasant reality simply put their fingers in their ears and go...na na na na na I can't hear you..na na na na I'm not listening.

I've posted on this topic before. People simply do not want their fantasies clouded with reality. And they have their excuses ready...the morons amongst us will say...

"I just wish that Fox News's parent company could afford to give $100 million "to oppose Democratic candidates for office this November" (like George Soros does to support left-wing fanatics)."

Of course in JakeD's narrow mind and limited world view he believes anybody with a D after their name is a left wing fantatic.

Yes nothing like an informed and opened minded electorate!!!

Posted by: rukidding7 | September 14, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington:

Mr. Soros has given an estimated $7 BILLION to left-wing causes.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/billionaires-2010_The-Worlds-Billionaires_Rank_2.html

He famously offered to give up his entire fortune to defeat President Bush, "if someone guaranteed it."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A24179-2003Nov10?language=printerSoros's

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

@mikefromarlington: "This should make the foxaholics heads explode."

Why? I don't think any of them are going to have much problem with Fox giving money to the Republican governors association. I think it's mostly a non-issue. For anti-Fox folks, it's exactly what they would expect, and for pro-Fox people, they probably aren't going to much care.

You mean Jim Greer, the former head of the Florida Republican party, was was recently charged with six counts of organized scheme to defraud, four counts of felony grand theft and one count of money laundering?

I don't mean to be cynical, but there seems to be a veiled insinuation that some of the folks who might be to blame for getting Jim Greer in trouble with the law (j'accuse!) are racists and otherwise bad people, and are you going to trust the word of racists about these so-called "crimes" allegedly committed by Honest Jim Greer?

Which may not be the case, but I'm suspecting that the grand jury indictment and upcoming trial may be prompting these somewhat self-serving revelations.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 14, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

So did he GIVE the money or did he OFFER to give the money?

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 14, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

rukidding7

Yep. I never get bent out of shape about how FAUX NEWS operates. They have cult,slack jawed, mouth breathing followers, much like The Big Fat Pillbilly has. Those people have closed minds, and they tune in, just more for affirmation of beliefs that they already hold.

I remember, working with a DittoHead who used to eat lunch in his car, so he could listen to Rush.

He would come back in to the office, and spend the next hour or so, disrupting the office, by regurgitating all the rants that he had just consumed.

He often would shout out, about how the government had no business taxing him, because it was his money. The guy had just taken the job, and had not worked for two years previously, and had not payed any taxes what so ever. He did not last very long in this job either.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 14, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

cmccauley60:

Rather than label your question as "stupid" I will answer it. He has already GIVEN an estimated $7 billion, and he OFFERED to give up the rest (he is still worth over $14 billion). Too bad for him that GWB served out two full terms as President.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Kevin, the donation goes against their very motto, Fair and Balance. Anyone with a conscience can put two and two together and realize the company that owns the news they watch is out to oppose Democrats.

How can a Fair and Balanced news source be fair and balanced if the owners decided to donate to Republican Governor's to defeat Democrats.

I mean, how stupid is their claim anyways. Virginia, the best place to own a business and the best managed state was run by a Democratic Governor for the last 8 years.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Jim Greer is going to pull down Crist and Rubio both.

It's only just NOW starting to get interesting, and will only get worse for both Crist and Rubio.

Meek is well positioned to take the seat.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 14, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Greg:

"It took a few weeks, but Media Matters has finally succeeded in getting Fox News to run its ad about the $1 million donation its parent company News Corporation gave to the Republican Governors Association. "

Old news, Greg. I pointed out nearly two weeks ago that FOX and MM had finally come to an agreement the spot. See my post at 8:58pm here:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/why_are_dems_in_ny_still_thriv.html

You are nothing if not behind the curve.

BTW...nice spin (propaganda?) on your presentation. MM has "finally succeeded" in getting FOX to run its ad? One might have equally said that FOX "finally succeeded" in getting MM to conform the spot to its standards. The whole process was a negotiation over 2 aspects of the spot. FOX, from the very beginning, stated that it was willing to air the ad, provided the changes they requested were made. For you to portray this as FOX "relenting" is absurd and, to be frank, very close to an out and out lie.

Posted by: ScottC3 | September 14, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

@miefromArlington: "How can a Fair and Balanced news source be fair and balanced if the owners decided to donate to Republican Governor's to defeat Democrats."

A legitimate point. I'm merely arguing that the revelation will not make foxaholic's heads explode. I'm pretty sure. Chances are, they will be running for the bathroom during the commercial, or flipping the channels to see what else is on, anyway.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 14, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"I'm merely arguing that the revelation will not make foxaholic's heads explode."

You're probably right as can be displayed by: "I just wish that Fox News's parent company could afford to give $100 million "to oppose Democratic candidates for office this November."

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I should add, re: Greer, that Kevin's right.

It's not Jim Greer himself that is causing the problems, it is the total corruption of the RPOF (Republican Party of FL). Greer is just the first domino to fall. He will make things difficult for Crist. And Crist is going to make things difficult for Rubio after his shenanigans with the RPOF Amex cards.

Either way, it's all going to come out before November and Kendrick Meek is going to look like a Champ -- especially after he comes off as the sensible, hard-working guy that he is in the FL-SEN debates.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 14, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I don't watch Fox News.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Fox just did not have any ad slots open until now. They might have already sold all their ad slots to the Gold Coin Pushers, since they are such a great investment strategy. You purchase those coins now, and three years from now, they will be worth about half of what you paid for them.

Fox loves to make sure that their viewers do not miss out on such a great investment deal.


Posted by: Liam-still | September 14, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Fox ran the story -

they are making a distinction between primetime - which Fox considers to be their opinion shows - and the other shows on Fox - which is news.


I hope Media Matters makes the same points about GE - the parent company of NBC - and their contributions to the political parties.

just to be fair........

.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 14, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

So much attention is being paid to the Congressional races, that the races for Governors are getting overlooked.

There is a reason why Murdoch gave that much money to The Republican Governors Association.

The Governors will have a lot of influnce on how Congressional Districts are redrawn, or quasi-gerrymandered, based on the new census figures, so the party that gains control of the large states governors spots, will gain a huge long term advantage, in how competitive a party can be for congressional seats, for the next decade.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 14, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington 12:52 PM


The democrats SAY they want the Republicans to support their measures -


And then when something goes through, the democrats RUN AWAY WILD SAYING OBAMA GOT A "VICTORY" AND HOW BAD THE REPUBLICANS ARE.

If the democrats are going to act like that, they aren't going to get much cooperation.

The democrats REFUSE to give credit where credit is due - WITHOUT REPUBLICAN SUPPORT, THE BILL WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD.

Sounds like Obama refusing to say the Surge is A SUCCESS - we have a person who refuses to be a man - and just acts like a child.

.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 14, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Three new polls out in Nevada today. Any comment Greg? Posting those results would actually be worthwhile.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | September 14, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I was perusing the mama grizzly site and I got hit with a Google add to something disturbing.

http://www.cafepress.com/+grizzly+womens-thongs.

Why...why!

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I agree with many here that Fox viewers are so deep into their ideology and victimhood that the obvious irony of Fair & Balanced Fox supporting Republicans will fly over their heads. I can't imagine that regular Fox viewers would find that the least bit surprising or problematic.

What objective could Media Matters have for this ad? Is this a part of a multipart strategy that will be rolling out? Is this a personal win for someone at MM?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 14, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington 1:04 PM


Funny how you like the shady characters - this guy has been accused of all sorts of crimes - and he is probably looking for some Judge to look favorably on him.

FALSE Charges of RACISM are a disgrace in this nation -


Obama has NOT delivered on his post-racial promises - and that is all that matters - EVALUATING OBAMA'S JOB PERFORMANCE - AND OBAMA IS A FAILURE.

.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 14, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Worth reprinting for some perspective:

"They don’t seem bothered by the fact that General Electric, the parent company of NBC, CNBC, and MSNBC, has given more than $1.75 million this cycle, including $1,097,423 to Democratic candidates and committees and $651,413 to GOP candidates and committees.

"Last cycle, GE gave $2.2 million to Democrats, $1.1 million to Republicans.

"Of course, GE owns more than the NBC networks. But then again, News Corp. also owns Dow Jones and the Wall Street Journal, a slew of newspapers in Australia and the U.K., 20th Century Fox, the Fox network, FX channel, a portion of the National Geographic Channel, and Fox Sports Channel, and book publisher HarperCollins."

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/244174/campaign-donations-we-are-different-somehow

Posted by: sbj3 | September 14, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

THE TRUTH


Which network is farther from the center - FOX, CNN OR MSNBC

Any reasonable, rational person would say that CNN and MSNBC are MUCH farther from the center than FOX.

Case closed.

.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 14, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Mike from Arlington at 1:04


IS this the guy that you are standing on - as your guide for morality - and what is right and wrong ???

Jim Greer, former head of the Florida Republican Party, was arrested Wednesday morning at his home near Orlando, law enforcement officials said. The Orlando Sun-Sentinel reports that at a press conference Wednesday, statewide prosecutor William Shepherd said that "a statewide grand jury indicted Greer on six felony charges: organized scheme to defraud, money laundering, and four counts of grand theft."


>

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 14, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I don't watch Fox News.

Posted by: JakeD2 1:36 PM


______________________________________

Jake - you were right about what is going on at the Fix by the way.


Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 14, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"Case closed."

lol

I can't figure out if you're being serious or laughing your @ss off when you type this stuff.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Mike, the only thong I don't understand is "Memphis sucks."

What's up with that? It doesn't seem vanity thong-worthy.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 14, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Mike from Arlington


Mostly laughing at you - and how crazy and out-of-touch your posts are.

.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 14, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I think of the people showing up to teaparty rallies then the thoughts of them in those thongs and I shudder.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

So, I have a question.


Who here is pro-colonialist?

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

@mike,

I used to think he had some kind of bizarre sense of humor and he was posting all these strangenesses to amuse himself.

Years later, I think I can say with some authority, that he is NOT kidding. It is far stranger than you know. Wait for the accusations of a conspiracy of liberals who meet daily to attack him. Wait, the best part, a PAID conspiracy of liberals. A cabal.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 14, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

BGinCHI: The Grizzlies is the name of our bottom-ranked basketball team that some rich business people and local media types helped bilk the tax payer in order to build them a brand new stadium . . . that's awkward. They're our basketball team, and they kinda do suck. But that's the "grizzly" connection. Why are they the Memphis grizzlies? Because they were originally the Vancouver Grizzlies.

@sbj3: "They don’t seem bothered by the fact that General Electric, the parent company of NBC, CNBC, and MSNBC, has given more than $1.75 million this cycle"

But NBC and MSNBC, etc, are just a small part of GE, which is a larger conglomerate to whom their TV networks are small potatoes, so it doesn't count. It's not the same thing at all. Because, you know, we say so. Entirely different. Not at all the same thing.

Also, Fox is bad while MSNBC and NBC are at least not quite as bad as Fox. So, no comparison there. At all.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 14, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I am paid by Soros to come here and make fun of conservatives. Yeah, I know, I'm doing a crap job. That's why I only get minimum wage. But since I signed up for Journolist2, I've been getting some neat talking points.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I didn't get my check from Greg this month for attacking the right wingers. Anyone else experiencing a delay? I hope he's not gonna try to pay us in copies of the Wash Post again.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 14, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

BGinCHI, Soros has taken over payments from Greg to us. Greg's broke. He wrote some posts recently highlighting Dem infighting so the DNC cut him off.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

@mike and BG,

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 14, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Great. How can I afford to buy tie-dye shirts and hackey sacks, much less my subscription to In These Times?

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 14, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

OK, got it: Uncle George.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 14, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

FYI, c/o political wire:

About Those Fox News Polls

The new set of Fox News surveys that we highlighted earlier were actually conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, which is a new venture from pollster Scott Rasmussen which "will allow anyone willing to pay $600 to go to the website, type in their credit card number, and run any poll that they wanted, with any language that they want..."

Links to the full results and complete questionnaires from the Fox News polls are now available.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/09/14/about_those_fox_news_polls.html

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 14, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

That's right.

Agent12bar@Georgeland.com

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 14, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Time for a midday laugh to lift your spirits.

This is one those clips, that I always get a laugh out of, no matter how many times I watch it.

Stavros Flatly - Greek Irish Dancers - Britains Got Talent 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gHvATmUsSg

Posted by: Liam-still | September 14, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"will allow anyone willing to pay $600 to go to the website, type in their credit card number, and run any poll that they wanted, with any language that they want..."

That's tempting. I'd like to see Balloon Juice or Little Green Footballs or some other site with some cahones put together some questionnaire making Republican politicians look even more sleazy than they already look and have it published.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

OT:

Children's books written by members of the First Family are usually the province of First Ladies and presidential daughters. But President Obama is set to break the mold this November when Random House releases "Of Thee I Sing: A Letter to My Daughters," a book of inspirational stories about groundbreaking Americans. Indeed, when "Of Thee I Sing" is released, it will be the first book any sitting American president has written specifically for children. (Jimmy Carter wrote one children's book after leaving the Oval Office, and Theodore Roosevelt composed one in collaboration with Henry Cabot Lodge before he became president.)

In what the publisher describes as a "tender, beautiful letter to his daughters," President Obama writes a "moving tribute to thirteen groundbreaking Americans and the ideals that have shaped our nation," from "the artistry of Georgia O'Keeffe, to the courage of Jackie Robinson, to the patriotism of George Washington."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100914/od_yblog_upshot/obama-to-join-the-ranks-of-dr-seuss

Not bad for a Kenyan America-hating anti-colonialist commie socialist Islamofascist usurper.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 14, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I just wish that Fox News's parent company could afford to give $100 million "to oppose Democratic candidates for office this November" (like George Soros does to support left-wing fanatics).

Posted by: JakeD2

That's what they did numbnuts just like Scaife and the Koch brothers. Complaining about Soros while ignoring the sugar daddies on the right just shows your ignorance.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | September 14, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

SaveTheRainforest:

I'm always right ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how much this exhibition of righteous indignation will cost the Media Matters outfit.

As has been noted repeatedly, the donations to liberal and democrat political funds is a common occurance among the members of the press.

Listening to the whining here is like music to the ears. Imagine those conservatives having the unmitigated gall to prefer one network over another. Why, the fallout of such a consumer choice will permanently damage our democracy!

yeah right. Conservatives, IMHO, turned away from the old line media because it was clear that the people who produced it and starred in it had a clearly visible agenda that is antiethical to conservative values.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | September 14, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Somebody gets it: Chris Van Hollen says holding a vote on the middle class tax cuts would be good for Dems:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/van_hollen_vote_on_middle_clas.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | September 14, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"Meek is well positioned to take the seat."

I hope that you are correct Ethan. Again anybody but Marco. This is where the tea party morons show they have no credibility.

If a guy uses his office to quadruple his income..takes all kinds of special interest money...gets sweetheart gigs from those same special interests after he leaves office..and his handpicked successor gets indicted for doing basically the same stuff Marco did..you vote for him because he's protecting your tax dollars? He's just sold YOUR tax payer funded office!!!

As someone has already said...the tea partiers voting for folks like Rubio and Scott are the equivalent of chickens going to KFC to look for work.

Posted by: rukidding7 | September 14, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

skipsailling28, I'd say its more because people like being right and when they have a news source that just reinforces their beliefs it makes them feel special.

It's like getting gold stars all day for your answers. It's a classroom where everyone is right all the time. Imagine never being proved wrong and how satisfying that would be. Murdoch has just wrapped all that into a package and made millions off of it.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 14, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I think Media Matters just wasted some money.

It's not a good ad - it doesn't catch and hold the attention. Visually it's very weak and the message lacks punch as well. And as others have pointed out, for most Fox viewers, knowing that NewsCorp is throwing money at the GOP is a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: JennOfArk | September 14, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

@Ethan2010: "Not bad for a Kenyan America-hating anti-colonialist commie socialist Islamofascist usurper."

Yeah, if he wasn't all those things, he wouldn't be half-bad. :)

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 14, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

jaked says:

"I just wish that Fox News's parent company could afford to give $100 million "to oppose Democratic candidates for office this November" (like George Soros does to support left-wing fanatics)."

Oh how soon we forget. Lets look a the co-owner of Fox news Al-Waleed bin Talal:

In October 2001, following the World Trade Center attacks, New York mayor Rudy Giuliani turned down a $10 million donation from Al-Waleed for disaster relief after the prince suggested the United States "must address some of the issues that led to such a criminal attack," and "re-examine its policies in the Middle East." However, Giuliani interpreted his statements as drawing "a moral equivalency between liberal democracies like the United States, like Israel, and terrorist states and those who condone terrorism."[

In 2002, Al-Waleed donated 18.5 million British pounds ($27 million) to the families of Palestinians during a TV telethon following Israeli operations in the West Bank city of Jenin. The telethon was ordered by Saudi King Fahd to help relatives of Palestinian martyrs. The Saudi government maintained the term "martyrs" referred not to suicide bombers but to "Palestinians [who are] victimized by Israeli terror and violence

So Fox has outdone Soros, they have a terrorist sympathizer that co-owns their company. Oh and he also gave funds to the Iman trying to build the mosque at ground zero. Funny how Fox mentioned this but NEVER mentioned his name. So how does it feel to support a terrorist Jake?

Posted by: rharring | September 14, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Nah, I don't buy that explanation Mike. The damage done to the credibility of the old line news organizations over the years was cumulative.

From Cronkite getting tet wrong (and never admitting it AFAK) to the fabricated scandal about Bush's ANG records, the liberal press let its facade slip.

I gave up on NPR years ago because of its relentless liberal slant and its government funding.

While your explanation has the virtue of being loaded with liberal condescenscion, I don't think it adequately explains the phenomenon.

futher, following your "logic", then liberals would all be flocking to MSNBC, correct? Therefore can I conclude that a comparison of the ratings indicates that there really are far fewer liberals than conservatives?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | September 14, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I still think this ad is ~way~ too understated to do any actual good. I don't think it needs to be insulting or rude. I do think it ignores the fact that it's likely up against a presumption on the part of Fox's viewership that if Fox says it or does something, it is right and good. So if you want those people to make the connection that that's not really the case here, you really have to come right out and say so. Perhaps the real objective of the ad is just to set off a round of discussion in elsewhere the media and it could well be successful in that sense. But I have doubt that much of that discussion will ever find its way back to Fox viewers, who increasingly get their new nowhere else but Fox.

Posted by: CalD | September 14, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@CalD,

I'm hoping this ad has legs, in other words, that it is part of a strategy, not the whole strategy. Otherwise, I think I agree with Jenn that this was money wasted. I can't see it would do any harm, though.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 14, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Kind of funny on FOX's part. MM comes in and says "I bet you don't have the courage to run this" thinking all the while there' no way in heck they'll run it and we'll get all this publicity and fundraising.  Unfortunately FOX called their bluff so instead of a club they have to pay to run an ad, once. Oh yeah, game, set, match.

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | September 14, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"Yeah, if he wasn't all those things, he wouldn't be half-bad. :)"

Lol!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 14, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately FOX called their bluff so instead of a club they have to pay to run an ad, once."

Yeah, they get a ton of free publicity AND they get to run the ad to the Fox viewers as they had wanted all along.

Game, set, match indeed!

Gotta love it.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 14, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

rharring:

I don't support any terrorists.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

that's ok jake2, Meg the zillionaire has already wasted $125 million of her GOP dollars, poor thing is in dire need of a GOP bailout/taxcut.

Posted by: leichtman1 | September 14, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

"Fox relents"

Reminds me of that remake of "Father of the Bride" with Steve Martin:

"I'm relaxed, and I'm leaving. Relent! Re-- Recoil? Reverse!"

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

So . . . this means that a "media" organization funded by left-wing Democratic plutocratic billionaire George Soros is paying for an ad on FN attacking Rupert Murdoch's company for contributions to help Republicans against Soros's party.

Totally makes sense. But where are the outcries against plutocracy and corporations engaging in political speech?

Posted by: quarterback1 | September 14, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah Ethan 20, they blew the lid off of that one. That one showing will inform the entire FOX viewership about what's really going on! Starting tomorrow, FOX ratings collapse, right?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | September 14, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

TrollMcWingnut:

So, Bill O'Reilly's show is just coming up on the East Coast (do you think that the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy get completely shut down?).

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington:

Mr. Soros has given an estimated $7 BILLION to left-wing causes.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/billionaires-2010_The-Worlds-Billionaires_Rank_2.html

He famously offered to give up his entire fortune to defeat President Bush, "if someone guaranteed it."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A24179-2003Nov10?language=printerSoros's

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse
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@JakeD
Your first link only told us Soros is worth 14M and through the Open Society Institute, has donated 7 Billion since 1979. As per ypur link, "America's wealthiest hedge fund manager [is] stepping up philanthropy: in January gave $4 million to Haiti. Last year pledged $35 million to help New York State buy school supplies for 850,000 underprivileged children. Also donating $100 million to recession-torn countries in central Europe.", Not necessarily "Left Wing causes" in my book. But hey you are entitled to your opinion, I guess.

Your second link was BAD. But here is another account of political donations which is what you are probably trying to insinuate.
http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/George_Soros.php

Posted by: wise_pharaoh | September 14, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be so quick to call this a victory. Let's not forget that the average person probably doesn't know that Newscorp is the parent company of Fox News. I doubt such language would have convinced a swarm of Fox News consumers to change the channel or their voting habits, but I think it would have been more effective.

Posted by: damascuspride04 | September 14, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

But where are the outcries against plutocracy and corporations engaging in political speech?

Posted by: quarterback1

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I'll bite. Whether it's Newscorp, GE, Fox News, MSNBC, Microsoft, Apple, or whoever...

I don't think corporations have any business engaging in political affairs. Political affiliation does not matter to me on this issue. As I've argued for a long time, politically slanted news reporting are (I believe) a destructive force anywhere they exist. Keith Olbermann Rachel Maddow, Bill O'Reilly, and Glenn Beck all have shows that look like news shows, but only present one side of the story. Any viewer could (and many do) mistake one of these opinion shows as fact-based reporting. I know it sounds laughable, but it happens every day.

Back in the day, we used to call this kind of slanted presentation of information "propaganda". Yet somehow, we can't seem to recognize propaganda in our own country.

Posted by: damascuspride04 | September 14, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

wise_pharaoh:

The second link worked for me (I'm simply disproving the "argument" above that I make up numbers).

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Scanning these comments, I see "Soros gave..." "What about Jim Greer..."

They are not journalistic businesses! Fox News is supposed to be a NEWS station, not the arm of one party or another. They even have "Fair and Balanced" as their tagline, which is what all news organizations are supposed to be from the outset. It should be a given but they feel they have to make it a marketing tool, and it's not even true.

What a hokey joke. When I want the real news, I watch ABC, NBC, or CBS. I understand PBS is one of the most fair and accurate stations, but always forget about it. But I don't even trust Fox's weather reports.

Posted by: MadamDeb | September 14, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

ok so now when is MSNBC going to run an ad detailing how much Soros has given to the dem campaigns?

Posted by: dreadstalker | September 14, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

"ok so now when is MSNBC going to run an ad detailing how much Soros has given to the dem campaigns?"

Does Soros own GE (or, soon, Comcast), the corporation that owns NBC/MSNBC?

Posted by: MadamDeb | September 14, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

frankly the fact that News corp. donated to the republican coffers is a plus in most conservatives view.

Posted by: dreadstalker | September 14, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Media Matters doing the work that WaPo should be doing.

Posted by: JoeBrones | September 14, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

comparing apples to oranges ATHEISTIC PATHETIC PONTIFICATING LIBERAL ELITIST SOCIALISTS VS OLD-SCHOOL REAL-WORLD AMERICA-LOVING GOD-FEARING NATIONALISTIC ENTREPENUER SPORTSMEN - the saddest part of all of this is how the former group fails to deal with any real issues and fails to see the bias in so much of the other media - so obvious

Posted by: MDjo | September 15, 2010 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Responding to:

I just wish that Fox News's parent company could afford to give $100 million "to oppose Democratic candidates for office this November" (like George Soros does to support left-wing fanatics).

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 14, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse
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Don't worry, the Koch brothers and other Republican billionaires will far outspend Soros; the superrich have favored the Republican party since the 19th century, and they will continue to do so.

George Soros, who funds Open Society institutes throughout the world, was one of the bulwarks against East-bloc communism. He is now helping the Democrats not because he is a left-winger (which he is not), but because he saw a danger to our entire society owing to the massive amount of money mobilized by the right wing. If you knew anything about Karl Popper, Soros' mentor, you would understand why Soros is approaching the problem this way. Of course, the Republicans view Soros as a traitor to his class, which explains the abuse they have been hurling at him.

Posted by: GeorgeSanders | September 15, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

I listen to all of the main outlets. It is amusing to hear people calling Fox news "faux news". Anything you hear on Fox is easily fact-checked through politifact or factcheck.org. Lately, it's Rachel Maddow who is leading the "misleading" column, not Fox. As for donating to Republican Governors Association, who in their right mind wouldn't look out for their own interest. Democrats and Obama are working feverishly to suppress free speech wherever they can get away with it, and George Soros is sending out the dogs of Media Matters to distort and impugn the motives of anyone who disagrees with Obama. THERE's fairness for you. Moveon.org: "General Betrayus." Now THERE was a moment to be proud of.

Posted by: SavingGrace | September 15, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

"Meek is well positioned to take the seat."

I hope that you are correct Ethan. Again anybody but Marco. This is where the tea party morons show they have no credibility.

If a guy uses his office to quadruple his income..takes all kinds of special interest money...gets sweetheart gigs from those same special interests after he leaves office..and his handpicked successor gets indicted for doing basically the same stuff Marco did..you vote for him because he's protecting your tax dollars? He's just sold YOUR tax payer funded office!!!

As someone has already said...the tea partiers voting for folks like Rubio and Scott are the equivalent of chickens going to KFC to look for work.

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So you must be leading the charge to hold Randy Rangel accountable for "using his office to quadruple his income" etc. Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?

Posted by: SavingGrace | September 15, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

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