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* Points for honesty: Tea Party Senator Jim DeMint says in a new interview that his goal in the Senate is nothing short of "complete gridlock."

Finally, something DeMint and Mitch McConnell can agree on!

* The other day I reported that Nancy Pelosi and top Dems were debating whether to start using the phrase, "Obama tax cuts for the middle class." Today, Pelosi debuted it in public:

"Without getting into procedure and timing and process, what we're going to do is to say: At the end of the day the extension of the Obama middle-income tax cuts will take place."

* How will groups on the left deal with being heavily outspent by the right? This new MoveOn spot in Kentucky (there's a companion version in New Hampshire) is an answer to that question, using the U.S. Chamber's ad blitz on behalf of Rand Paul against him:

* Chris Dodd isn't too worried about that Elizabeth Warren appointment. He seems to think she isn't going to have too much power. What a relief!

* The White House puts Forbes squarely in the crosshairs over the widely-denounced Dinesh D'Souza article.

* No healing this rift: Mike Castle says he won't endorse Christine O'Donnell because of all the "personal smears," including the reference to him as "unmanly."

* Head spinner of the day: Sharron Angle, in an interview with the Post, blasted critics for painting her as extreme -- and then turned around and said Obama is taking us "toward socialism."

* More than two dozen moderate House Dems write a letter to the Dem leadership urging a vote on extending all the Bush tax cuts, not just the middle class ones.

* Jon Chait has a suggestion for those moderates: Why not hold two votes, one on the middle class cuts and one on the high-end ones?

Which raises another question: If Dems do hold a vote on just the middle class tax cuts, will these moderates really vote No? I think some will, to prove their "independence" and to prove that they're not tax hikers, or something. But I'd bet enough would vote Yes for it to pass.

* Relatedly, a useful running whip count of all the Dems in both chambers who favor Bush tax policy over Obama policy.

* Jed Lewison notes, rightly I think, that Dem chances rest heavily on whether Dems do the work necessary to ensure that enough voters buy that the GOP remains the party of Bush -- hardly a foregone conclusion.

* Dems to roll out more new product? Senate leaders hint at a coming vote on a measure keeping jobs from going overseas.

* No wonder O'Donnell is wary of science -- she appears to believe scientists have created mice with fully functioning human brains.

* And the headline of the day:

Christine O'Donnell '10, A Dry Run For Palin '12

You betcha! What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  |  September 16, 2010; 5:45 PM ET
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Dodd looks forward to his career lobbying for big corporations who want to fleece consumers.

I look forward to a day when our government isn't defined by the principle, "One Dollar, One Vote".
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 16, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Sorry but that Pelosi quote completely misses the mark. The Obama tax cuts are not an extension, they are new, they are permanent and they are only for middle and low income taxpayers.

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 16, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"No wonder Christine O'Donnell is wary of science -- she appears to believe scientists have created mice with fully functioning human brains."

That explains her candidacy and Angle's, as well as the rest of these Tea Party cretins who are running for office.
I also now know what makes guys like Hannity and Steve Doocy tick. Here I thought they were members of the Church of the Quarter Brain, but in fact they have Mickey Mouses's genes.

Posted by: filmnoia | September 16, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

If the Dem leadership is so hapless that it takes Jon Chait - or me, over a week ago - pointing out the obvious strategy to get what's wanted here, we might as well resign ourselves to President Palin.

Posted by: JennOfArk | September 16, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

This is amazing ... fair and balanced my a$$:

The suit the network filed against the campaign of Robin Carnahan, a Democrat challenging Rep. Roy Blunt (R) for a Senate seat in Missouri, appears to be the first time such a fair use fight between a media company and a political campaign has been taken to court. It is much more common for media companies to flag the videos to YouTube and assert their copyright.

"This is the only case that I know of where a broadcast news organization has sued a political campaign over use of news footage in an ad," Ben Sheffner, a lawyer who specializes in copyright issues and writes the Copyrights & Campaigns blog, told TPM. "There's been a number of disputes over this issue, but they never got to a court case, that I'm aware."

Fox News said in a statement to TPM that they filed the suit to protect the journalistic integrity of their host.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/copyright_expert_dramatic_step_for_fox_news_to_sue.php

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 16, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"If Dems do hold a vote on just the middle class tax cuts, will these moderates really vote No? I think some will, to prove their "independence" and to prove that they're not tax hikers, or something. But I'd bet enough would vote Yes for it to pass."

Schedule the vote on the Obama Middle Class Tax Cuts. Announce it tomorrow. Don't scr*w around. If the Dems blow this one ...

Posted by: wbgonne | September 16, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

cmccauley60, for added fun:

FAUX has offered to sponsor a debate between Carnahan, whom they are suing, and Blunt, whom they have donated money to.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201009160030
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 16, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"The International House of Pancakes has sued the International House of Prayer in federal court for using the IHOP acronym."

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_16081206?source=rss_viewed

Posted by: sbj3 | September 16, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Schedule the vote tomorrow is right, wb. First on the Obama middle class cut then on the GOP's cut for millionaires. Let's see how the votes break down.

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 16, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"Relatedly, a useful running whip count of all the Dems in both chambers who favor Bush tax policy over Obama policy."

Someone please keep this list. We'll compare it after the election and see how many of these blue dogs are still in office. I hope not many.

Better Dems, please.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 16, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Can the Dems put a bill up for a vote and ACTUALLY call it "The tax cut for millionaires" Act?

They could then vote against it and let the rest decide if they want to put up or shut up.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 16, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Dems could energize the base painlessly (so to speak) by getting on the right side of Marijuana legalization. The facts are irrefutable and irrefuditable as well. Could also put Boxer over the top with the extra CA turnout. Meanwhile the Admins and the Dems run from this although even Blue Dogs like Guns-Are-Our-Friends Jim Webb. I know they won't do it but still it's right there for the picking (so to speak, again).

https://donate.firedoglake.com/kerlikowske/contribute?recip1=1973&amount1=4.20&rc=em20100916

Posted by: wbgonne | September 16, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Dems could energize the base painlessly (so to speak) by getting on the right side of Marijuana legalization. The facts are irrefutable and irrefuditable as well. Could also put Boxer over the top with the extra CA turnout. Meanwhile the Admins and the Dems run from this although even Blue Dogs like Guns-Are-Our-Friends Jim Webb support it. I know they won't do it but still it's right there for the picking (so to speak, again).

https://donate.firedoglake.com/kerlikowske/contribute?recip1=1973&amount1=4.20&rc=em20100916

Posted by: wbgonne | September 16, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of voting for Obama and the democrats if all they do is sell-out to big business ???


Seriously folks - how many deals did Obama and the democrats make with corporate interests to get his health care bill through ?

And Obama has done nothing about the Free Trade deals which are hurting American jobs.

THAT is the point - get those in Washington to do what they say they will do.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

wbgonne, double post? Are you high?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 16, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"Can the Dems put a bill up for a vote and ACTUALLY call it "The tax cut for millionaires" Act?"

If the Democrats were Republicans that's exactly what they'd do. And I'm hoping that Dems find their inner Republicans for a bit. "The Tax Cut for Millionaires" Act" -- I love it!

Posted by: wbgonne | September 16, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Yes - we all know we all have a Republic - not a democracy - we elect our representatives who vote on the laws.


But our system has evolved another layer - a layer of party bosses - and political committees - who ACTUALLY CHOOSE THE CANDIDATES.


It is ANOTHER LAYER - keeping the voters from selecting who they want.


That is why the primaries are so difficult - that group does not want to lose its power.

Thank you - and goodbye.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Funny you ask, BG. Here's the problem: I never use the Preview feature so I often discover errors as the messages are going out the window. I have learned that it is very difficult but not impossible to interrupt the message and correct it. But it doesn't usually work. That's what happened. The second message finishes the unfinished Webb sentence.

And to answer your question: I wish.

Posted by: wbgonne | September 16, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

These are not Obama's tax cuts


They ARE BUSH'S TAX CUTS


Americans know the difference- and they know that anyone who says otherwise is a LIAR.

Democrats


Just because Bill Clinton got away with something and lied - that doesn't mean it is OK for you to do the same.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Are People Mice Brains kind of like Lizard People, or am I confused?

And if the mice have people brains, does that mean they will need to refrain from fappin' it up as well?

And on top of it all, Bill Clinton had Vince Foster killed, and there is evidence for Creationism over evolution. Wow. She's Delaware's Louie Gohmert.

Is O'Donnell a birther? Because she sure sounds like the kind of person who would honestly believe that garbage.

Posted by: michael_conrad | September 16, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The American People are horrified by the games the democrats have been playing this week - opening searching for an issue.


It is sad - that the democrats want to LIE about Bush's tax cuts.

Will Obama NOW take credit for the SURGE AND THE IRAQI WAR TOO ???

How about the ranch in Texas - is that now OBAMA'S RANCH ???

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Also, too, how does the human-mouse breeding work? I'm no biologist, but there are some compatibility issues there.

This is also TERRIBLE news for the manufacturers of mouse traps.

Back to the drawing board....

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 16, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Blather all you like, STRF, but the Bush tax cuts came with an expiration date. Once that date has passed, they aren't Bush tax cuts. Anything that passes now won't be Bush tax cuts, because those tax cuts are expiring. As of January 1, the Bush tax cuts will be no more. Run down the curtain. Joined the invisible choir.

Bereft of life, they will be ex-tax cuts.

Posted by: JennOfArk | September 16, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Christine O'Donnell has now raised $1,150,000 since Tuesday


OVER ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

WOW

Karl Rove is now being nice to her too - which is a major breakthrough for him.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

BG wrote: Also, too, how does the human-mouse breeding work? I'm no biologist, but there are some compatibility issues there.
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I don't know about compatibility, but what about size problems. Wait a minute, wait a minute--how about humans with mouse brains? Wait a minute, wait a minute--how does Christine O'Donnell know SO much about these experiments.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 16, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Jenn-

Nice Monty Python reference...

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | September 16, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

"...ONE MILLION DOLLARS."

Shades of Dr. Evil.

Posted by: JennOfArk | September 16, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

More genius from Crazy Teabag Candidate Rand Paul:

This week, a spokesman for Kentucky’s Republican senate nominee Rand Paul said that, if he’s elected, Paul “will vote against and filibuster any unbalanced budget proposal in the Senate.” Leaving aside Paul’s ignorance regarding whether or not budgets can be filibustered (they can’t), eliminating a $1.3 trillion deficit in a single year is totally unrealistic. In fact, Rudolph Penner, who ran the Congressional Budget Office under President Reagan, called it “implausible.” And the task is going to get a whole lot harder if Paul has his way when it comes to the Bush tax cuts, as he told the Lexington Herald-Leader that he would “absolutely” vote to extend all of the tax cuts, even if they aren’t paired with corresponding spending cuts:

Paul, who has built his campaign around opposing big government and a $13.4 trillion national debt, said it would be better to pair the tax cuts with a plan to reduce spending. However, asked if he would vote to extend the tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts, Paul said, “Absolutely. The money is not the government’s. It is ours.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/16/paul-bush-tax/

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 16, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

:) I knew someone would catch that.

Posted by: JennOfArk | September 16, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Now it's "extension" of what all liberals have been calling new Obama cuts? What is that, spin malpractice when the woman can't keep her own lies straight?

Posted by: quarterback1 | September 16, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

A very bright point from Chait (see Greg's link above)...

"One commonality is the issue of "respect." Fred Barnes explains that Mike Castle lost, in part, because he "didn’t respect a Tea Party-backed rival." The context of this claim is not that Castle failed to take O'Donnell seriously as a threat, but that he failed to treat her with appropriate deference. This is exactly the same dynamic that Palin's potential rivals are trying to navigate—run against her without seeming to endorse the calumnies of the dread liberal media."

This is the precisely the strategy used to ward off any criticism and even to give justification for these candidates refusing to face open and direct questioning as to policy. They'll be victimized (and women have to be coddled).

Of course, it's total BS and a non-subtle means of trying to intimidate the press. And it's unidirectional. Hillary Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer - bring on the hatchets!

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Fine snark from Josh...

"When I was high school, I remember always thinking: "Why so much pro-Muslim, pro-jihad propaganda in my textbooks?""
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/09/textbook_jihad.php?ref=fpblg

Texas crazy is ten-gallon crazy.

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

The budget busting Bush tax cut for millionaires that was rammed down the throats of the American people by the GOP using reconciliation will expire on 12/31/10.

The Obama tax cut for the middle class will be permanent and will take effect on 1/1/11.

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 16, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Yikers. O'Donnell has a wiccan lesbian sister...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/09/christine-odonnells-lesbian-sister-is-campaigning-for-her.html

Now, that's all fine with me, even if the sister masturbates under a full moon while chanting demonic spells and texting to her Facebook page. But I'm a liberal.

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

The American People are horrified by the games the democrats have been playing this week - opening searching for an issue.


It is sad - that the democrats want to LIE about Bush's tax cuts.


All the complaints from the democrats about LYING over the years - and now all the democrats give the nation are LIES.


Will Obama NOW take credit for the SURGE AND THE IRAQI WAR TOO ???


How about the ranch in Texas - is that now OBAMA'S RANCH ???


.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues:

"I don't know about compatibility, but what about size problems. Wait a minute, wait a minute--how about humans with mouse brains? Wait a minute, wait a minute--how does Christine O'Donnell know SO much about these experiments.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....."

I think you're on to something here. She'd better be careful. There are rumors everywhere about the Cat People licking their chops. (Wonder if they have to do a butt wiggle before they pounce?)

Posted by: wiccan | September 16, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

JennOfArk 6:30 PM


OK - which planet are you on ???


If Obama wants to cut the taxes, THEN CUT THE TAXES BELOW WHAT THEY ARE NOW.

and REPEAL ALL THE TAX INCREASES WHICH WILL RESULT FROM THE HEALTH CARE BILL.

Until then, Obama has done nothing but RAISE the taxes during a recession - and put DRAGS ON HIRING.

Obama is the WORST President since Buchanan

And Buchanan was only worse because a war started - otherwise Obama would be worse.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"If Dems do hold a vote on just the middle class tax cuts, will these moderates really vote No?"

The democrats need to start now in making it clear that the Republican's raised taxes on the rich when they put the sunset clause in their bill. Democrats are giving a middle class tax cut called the Obama tax cuts and that is the end of the story. If someone taxes go up then it is not their fault, they never voted for the increase. The Republican's did 10 years ago...

Posted by: soapm | September 16, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Blue Dogs Rule.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Chait moves over to the dark side and concludes that yes, Palin is going to run in 2012... http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/77734/lord-help-us-palin-running-president

Rove will be turning in his coffin-motif bed this eve.

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Durrrrr..."it's only a tax cut if I say it is!"

Posted by: JennOfArk | September 16, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

@wiccan,

OK, just for you:

Hey, do the mouse, yeah,
Hey, you can do it in your house yeah,

Be the first one on your block
Every cat will be in shock
Do the Mouse yeah
Let's do the mouse
Come-on do the mouse with me

Hey, do the mouse, yeah,
Hey, do the mouse, yeah,
Hey, do the mouse, yeah,

Don't be afraid that you can't do it
There is really nothing to it
Just follow me and I'll get you through it
Have no fear when Christi's here.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 16, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Soap, good dem spin there. Happens to be completely dishonest but has the virtue of being perfectly clear. Which rather makes its dishonesty all the clearer.. Good job.

Posted by: quarterback1 | September 16, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Blue Dogs Rule.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

So, y'all really don't think anyone will blame the party in power if their taxes go up?

Oooookaaaay ...

Posted by: sbj3 | September 16, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Why would Obama want to sign a $700 BILLION DOLLAR TAX INCREASE in the middle of a recession ???


Will Obama sign "Barack Hussein Obama"

AND why is this the ONE campaign promise Obama wants to keep?


Being bipartisan BROKEN


Being post-racial BROKEN


Being transparent BROKEN

Bringing the parties together BROKEN

Taxing People KEPT

Obama has his priorities.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

The American People are horrified by the games the democrats have been playing this week - opening searching for an issue.


It is sad - that the democrats want to LIE about Bush's tax cuts.


All the complaints from the democrats about LYING over the years - and now all the democrats give the nation are LIES.


Will Obama NOW take credit for the SURGE AND THE IRAQI WAR TOO ???


How about the ranch in Texas - is that now OBAMA'S RANCH ???

.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Greg:

I don't get it. Why are the tax cuts being positioned as mutually exclusive? What we're really talking about here is:
1. A tax cut for everyone on income under $250,000
- and -
2. An ADDITIONAL tax cut just for millionaires and billionaires (on income greater than $250,000).

What's to debate? The second, additional tax cut is a stupid idea.

Posted by: wkristol | September 16, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

@12BarBlues

That was great! I'll hear it everytime I see O'Donnell.

Unfortunately, I still don't know if I'm supossed to be more worried about tax cuts or the deficit.

Posted by: wiccan | September 16, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"Soap, good dem spin there. Happens to be completely dishonest but has the virtue of being perfectly clear. Which rather makes its dishonesty all the clearer.. Good job."

Been watching the pro's on the right spin everything from death panels to every piece of legislation the Democrats propose being a "job killer". Including the stimulus???

Since no one questions how the inheritance tax helps create jobs I just thought the Democrats were missing the boat when it comes to playing the game. you know, if you can't beat them...

Posted by: soapm | September 16, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Are People Mice Brains kind of like Lizard People, or am I confused?

And if the mice have people brains, does that mean they will need to refrain from fappin' it up as well?

And on top of it all, Bill Clinton had Vince Foster killed, and there is evidence for Creationism over evolution. Wow. She's Delaware's Louie Gohmert.

Is O'Donnell a birther? Because she sure sounds like the kind of person who would honestly believe that garbage.

Posted by: michael_conrad | September 16, 2010 6:26 PM
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Let's be fair about this. O'Donnell just got some of the details messed up a bit. The experiments she referenced have actually taken place. I'm not all that familiar with them, but I have it from an unimpeachable source that the brain in the creature is not fully functional. And it was a rat, not a mouse, crossed with a human. Microwaves and cell-phone towers were somehow used in the project.

According to a memo from one Lucy Ramirez, the thing has the body of a man, and the head resembles a grotesque caricature of a sewer rat. The call the hideous monstrosity Waxman.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"It is sad - that the democrats want to LIE about Bush's tax cuts."

So were clear, what lie did the democrats tell about the Bush Tax cuts? They obviously aren't the silver bullet for creating jobs since we were losing 700K jobs per month and achieved record unemployment all while the tax cuts were active.

I can't imagine Bill gates not buying a new car because of a tax cut. There is no substantive argument for keeping the Bush tax cuts for the rich since Reagan proved trickle down economics don't work unless you're one of the rich...

Posted by: soapm | September 16, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

@wiccan,

All funning aside, as hard as that is to do, what I worry about is how many batsh!t candidates like O'Donnell and her coven-sisters are going to get elected. And I worry about when Coven Queen Bachmann seizes power away from John Boehner. The WILL be consequences within the GOP leadership to allow the shrieking hordes to take their legitimate place in the halls of power.

Taxes will sort out when the Democrats do the only logical thing and vote in middle class tax breaks. Deficits will start to sort out as the economy improves. The economy is already improving, as is evidenced by the stock market, which is the aggregate of many, many large and small companies improving profit outlook. Jobs will improve. All this will sort itself out.

But, what will we be seeing when the shrieking hordes storm the barricades?

BTW, great handle. No offense about the coven sisters, eh?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 16, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Dodd looks forward to his career lobbying for big corporations who want to fleece consumers.

I look forward to a day when our government isn't defined by the principle, "One Dollar, One Vote".
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 16, 2010 5:54 PM
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Surely a good ole liberal Democrat like Dodd wouldn't do that. That's something only those nasty Republicans do.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Brigade, the Waxman thing is mean, but pretty funny.

He's an excellent politician but he is not a handsome man.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 16, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The Obama tax cut for the middle class will be permanent and will take effect on 1/1/11.

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 16, 2010 6:58 PM
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So let's pass it already.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Now, that's all fine with me, even if the sister masturbates under a full moon while chanting demonic spells and texting to her Facebook page. But I'm a liberal.

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 6:58 PM
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You had me going there for a minute, until the part about masturbates, full moon, and demonic spells. Sister. Right. You'll never convince anyone that Maxine Waters is related to O'Donnell.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Christine O'Donnell is living proof that scientists have produced humans with fully functioing mouse brains.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | September 16, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Now, that's all fine with me, even if the sister masturbates under a full moon while chanting demonic spells and texting to her Facebook page. But I'm a liberal.

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 6:58 PM
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You had me going there for a minute---until you got to the part about masturbates, full moon, and demonic spells. Sister. LOL. You'll never convince anyone that Maxine Waters is related to O'Donnell.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

bearclaw, that's an insult to all mouses.

Have you even seen Ratatouille?

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 16, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Where is Clawrence who claimed he would defend O'Donnell within an inch of his life? And give her money too for every time she is diss'ed.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 16, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

JennOfArk 6:30 PM

Jenn


Save your posting - and if you ever want to ask yourself why the American People hate democrats, you have your answer.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I like talking about politicians who are mentally "challenged"; some even manage to get re-elected multiple times.

Here's one who's about 51 cards short of a full deck:


"On July 29, 1994 Waters was challenged for making inappropriate remarks during a one-minute speech. She then ignored the Chair’s request to suspend speaking until the point of order was settled. Rep. Robert Walker (R-PA) rose and called out “get the Mace,” to restore order. The Chair kept pounding the gavel and finally stated, “the Chair is about to direct the Sgt-at-Arms to present the Mace!” Waters then suspended, and the Chair was able to rule on the point of order without having to resort to the Mace."

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". . .the efforts of Waters and others to expose the Bush family/Iran Contra cocaine trafficking which had created a hellish epidemic in South Central Los Angeles—Waters' district—as well as in other parts of the country."

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

soapm 7:55 PM


If Obama keeps the taxes, the same - the taxes are the SAME.


That isn't a tax cut.


If Obama RAISES the taxes, the taxes are RAISED.

And such are the lies of the democrats - look at this board -


Obama has no "tax cuts"


They are Bush's tax cuts.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Are there any democrats here who are concerned about the apparent readiness of other democrats on this board to lie ???


Or are those democrats just "Standing-by" watching the lies - and there is no responsibility to speak up ?

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

If the "American People hate Democrats", then why did they elect so many of them?

Probably because the "American people" don't "hate Democrats" but rather, a disgruntled minority of pea-brains do.

Posted by: JennOfArk | September 16, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

The world according to STRF:

If the taxes are the same they are the SAME.

If the taxes don't go up, then they are NOT UP.

If the taxes do go up, then they are UP.

Obama should be impeached for putting the taxes DOWN, no UP, no WAIT A MINUTE, I will get it...

Obama should be impeached because he did not say in advance he would put the taxes DOWN...no, wait,

Obama should be impeached because otherwise I will have a nervous breakdown. There, I knew I would get it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 16, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Jenn

I suppose it is too much to ask you to tell the truth.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Jenn

I suppose it is too much to ask you to tell the truth.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

12Bar

A tax cut means taxes go down.


A tax increase means taxes go UP

IN this case, Obama wants to raise the taxes $700 BILLION DOLLARS


Where is Obama going to spend all that money ???


(No one is concerned that it is too much money for Obama to spend)

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

"After Delaware, G.O.P. Senate Takeover Appears Much Less Likely
By NATE SILVER"
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/16/after-delaware-g-o-p-senate-takeover-appears-much-less-likely/?hp

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

"Let's be fair about this. O'Donnell just got some of the details messed up a bit."

I'm pretty sure that's not the last time you'll be typing that.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | September 16, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

O Donnell just got some of the details messed up" ? Come on brigade we all know that you are capable of better critical thinking and less rationalizing then that. Certainly you would be saying just the opposite if that ridiculous unscientific comment had been made by her opponent. I told you how idiotic I felt Jerry Brown's comment was, now just fess up, her's was even dumber.

Posted by: leichtman1 | September 16, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Watching the rightwing insane people attacked by their own kind...
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201009160002

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

According to Jenn:


Obama is going to spend the weekend at his ranch in Texas.

HA !!!!

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

O Donnell just got some of the details messed up" ? Come on brigade we all know that you are capable of better critical thinking and less rationalizing then that. Certainly you would be saying just the opposite if that ridiculous unscientific comment had been made by her opponent. I told you how idiotic I felt Jerry Brown's comment was, now just fess up, her's was even dumber.

Posted by: leichtman1 | September 16, 2010 9:02 PM
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Did I say something to make you think I took her comments seriously? I don't remember your comment about Jerry Brown. I remember saying I thought it was pretty stupid of him to strike out at Bill Clinton because of a Whitman ad. I'm sure you agree.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Brigade,

I wasn't too sure what you were saying until you brought in the microwave torture chambers, then I knew you were kidding. There are at least two people on this blog who will automatically defend anything a Tea Partier says or does and will donate money to their campaign, just for the insult (so they say).

I notice that both of those people are conspicuously absent today.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 16, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH


Obama has just announced that Fox News is now "Obama's Fox News"


Obama says he will now be co-hosting with Bill O'Reilly every night.

Obama has also announced that the Tea Party is now "Obama's Tea Party"

Obama now says he will pick the candidates which the Tea Party supports.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

"300 Economists Warn Congress: Don't Kill Growth And Jobs In The Name Of Deficit Reduction

A small army of economists warned Congress on Thursday not to focus on deficit reduction instead of job creation or else risk a 1937-style double-dip recession.

"History suggests that a tenuous recovery is no time to practice austerity," says a statement signed by more than 300 economists and policy experts. "In the Great Depression, Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal generated growth and reduced the unemployment rate from 25 percent in 1932 to less than 10 percent in 1937. However, the deficit hawks of that era persuaded President Roosevelt to reverse course prematurely and move toward budget balance. The result was a severe recession that caused the economy to contract sharply and sent the unemployment rate soaring."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/16/300-economists-warn-congr_n_719469.html

Or, you can go with Glenn Beck.

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Chris Coons - democratic candidate for Senate in Delaware - called himself a "bearded Marxist."


I guess if it's fair that they drag up all this stuff years old about Christine O'Donnell, it's fair to say Coons is a Marxist.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Greg ... HuffPo on Dodd/Warren? Come on. And nowhere in that story does Dodd say anything about her power or lack thereof. Again ... quit laying on the 'Obama sucks' coloration. That's Greenwald/Sirota turf.

Posted by: Tangerine3 | September 16, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Surely a good ole liberal Democrat like Dodd wouldn't do that. That's something only those nasty Republicans do.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 7:57 PM
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Sure, Brigade, prove you're a moron. I've got other things to do, and I appreciate your help.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 16, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Coons calls himself a Marxist.


This is going to be some election.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Sure, Brigade, prove you're a moron. I've got other things to do, and I appreciate your help.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | September 16, 2010 9:44 PM
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Think nothing of it. Enjoy yourself doing those "other things" but remember Ms. O'Donnell says you may go blind.

Posted by: Brigade | September 16, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Theocrats who don't like Grayson...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/graysons-opponent-boasts-support-from-far-right-texas-conservative.php

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell was just a little misinformed? Of course not. She was straight lying.

As this is not debatable, I won't.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 16, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Bernie, I linked a piece before the FL primary that highlighted a debate between Webster and his primary opponents. He was the only one advocating privatizing and eventually phasing out SS, and actually got quite a few boos from the crowd and lots of attention after the debate. Of course he immediately walked it back the next day to the tune of assuring all those seniors or "soon" to be seniors in the audience that they wouldn't be affected.

Another case of voting against their own self interest, well not theirs maybe, but their kids and grandkids.

Posted by: lmsinca | September 16, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

democrats always wonder if the truth is "debatable"

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Goldberg and Castro...utterly fascinating:

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/09/fidel-cuban-model-doesnt-even-work-for-us-anymore/62602/

Posted by: bernielatham | September 16, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

@Bernie: "Now, that's all fine with me, even if the sister masturbates under a full moon while chanting demonic spells and texting to her Facebook page. But I'm a liberal."

That's fine with me, too. And I'm a conservative. Heh.

Guess I'm the exception that proves the rule, eh?

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 16, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Only in an Obama- Orwellian world would keeping taxes the SAME be a tax cut.


OH - did you hear? Obama wrote the book 1984. It's now called "Obama's 1984"

Obama has taken over Fox News - It is now called "Obama's Fox News"

And the Tea Party - It is now "Obama's Tea Party"

What else does Obama want to take over?

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 16, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

"I notice that both of those people are conspicuously absent today."

I know you're probably referring to QB1 and ScottC3 but I'm going to insert myself here and correct you. It should read: "I notice that all three of those people are conspicuously absent today."

Signed,
bUford

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | September 16, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

And Bernie, I read that Walshe piece this morning and I think it's true. Remember when we couldn't imagine the possibility? I don't think Greg believes it yet though.

Posted by: lmsinca | September 16, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Jon Stewart just announced a rally on the Mall 10/30/10. Should be a blast.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 16, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty much trying to keep my nose to the grind stone and get my progressive, Bill Hedrick, elected in November, but this election sure seems more volatile than most. There's always a few off the wall candidates that are somewhat entertaining, but is it just me or are there more of them and are they stranger than normal? Anyway, Digby had a few thoughts as well, who knows?

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"Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson wrote an op-ed this morning discussing why the Democrats shouldn't count on a Reaganesque 1982 miracle in November despite the similarities in the various approval ratings and money advantage by the Democrats.

In keeping with every other prediction it's very gloomy. But I have to wonder if the enthusiasm gap isn't about to close --- not because the Democrats are more fired up, although some might be. I am thinking that the crazed rightward shift of the GOP might start to suppress enthusiasm among the mainstream Republicans and right leaning Independents. It's hard to know --- they may all come out just for the chance to stick it to the hated Democrats. But I wouldn't be surprised if some unknown number of them forget to vote. It's getting pretty weird. A lot weirder than 82."

Posted by: lmsinca | September 16, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

"Jon Stewart just announced a rally on the Mall 10/30/10."

Mike, a Halloween theme?

Posted by: lmsinca | September 16, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Nope. Both Colbert and Stewart are having rally's.

http://www.rallytorestoresanity.com/


http://www.keepfearalive.com/

Should be fun. Stewart had a bunch of signs he plans on having there.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 16, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Here are the facebook links.

Rally to Restore Sanity

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=118856078167623&ref=nf

Keep Fear Alive

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=lf#!/event.php?eid=154317524597618&ref=nf

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 16, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Mike, just saw the Stewart/Colbert thing on the dvr. Pretty funny and interesting. I'm wondering though...I know it's an attempt to counteract Beck, and the other stupid teatard rallies, but what's the point of being there? To show reasonableness? I guess that's a good idea, but I'd rather something more positive and progressive, like, you know the American values of liberty and justice for all, or something. Or life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness without greed.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 17, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

I guess what I'm really asking is: are we PLers going to the rally? I'm guessing Greg has a budget for an RV that we could all use.

I can bring brats (encased meat, not kids) and wine.

Who's in?

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 17, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Troll, actually she either isn't referring to me or is mistaken again. Since she is almost always mistaken, I suppose it is anyone's guess. But I am not one of the "insult" contributors. You are definitely a buford though.

Posted by: quarterback1 | September 17, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Troll, actually she either isn't referring to me or is mistaken again. Since she is almost always mistaken, I suppose it is anyone's guess. But I am not one of the "insult" contributors. You are definitely a buford though.

Posted by: quarterback1 | September 17, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Troll, actually she either isn't referring to me or is mistaken again. Since she is almost always mistaken, I suppose it is anyone's guess. But I am not one of the "insult" contributors. You are definitely a buford though.

Posted by: quarterback1 | September 17, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Troll, actually she either isn't referring to me or is mistaken again. Since she is almost always mistaken, I suppose it is anyone's guess. But I am not one of the "insult" contributors. You are definitely a buford though.

Posted by: quarterback1 | September 17, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Pull the plug on this a-hole.

Dem hopeful seeks Pelosi exit
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42303.html

I hope he loses by 101 points.

Posted by: wbgonne | September 17, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

McWing:

"I know you're probably referring to QB1 and ScottC3..."

She can't be referring to me, either. I've haven't defended everything a TPer says, and I definitely haven't promised to donate to anyone for any reason. In fact, I have donated money to a political candidate exactly once in my life. (Although I am happy to report that that one time was to a candidate running against BHO well before he became the guiding light for all things that are good and righteous. I was onto him earlier than most.)

Posted by: ScottC3 | September 17, 2010 7:28 AM | Report abuse

@Mike - Damn! Now there's a rally I'd go to if closer. Greg will be required to report on it, perhaps reporting in tandem with Mike Gerson.

Posted by: bernielatham | September 17, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Petro industry billionaires who'd boil angels if there was a buck in it....

"A ballot initiative to suspend a milestone California law curbing greenhouse gas emissions is drawing a wave of contributions from out-of-state oil companies, raising concerns among conservationists as it emerges as a test of public support for potentially costly environmental measures during tough economic times.

Charles and David Koch, the billionaires from Kansas who have played a prominent role in financing the Tea Party movement, donated $1 million to the campaign to suspend the Global Warming Solutions Act, which was passed four years ago, and signaled that they were prepared to invest more in the cause. With their contribution, proponents of the proposition have raised $8.2 million, with $7.9 million coming from energy companies, most of them out of state." http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/us/17pollute.html?_r=1&hp

Posted by: bernielatham | September 17, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Krugman on why the Dems have to go full out on the tax policy now...

"But what’s even more important is the principle of the thing. Threats to punish innocent bystanders unless your political rivals give you what you want have no legitimate place in democratic politics. Giving in to such threats would be an economic and political mistake, but more important, it would be morally wrong — and it would encourage more such threats in the future."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/opinion/17krugman.html?hp

Posted by: bernielatham | September 17, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

"More than two dozen moderate House Dems write a letter to the Dem leadership urging a vote on extending all the Bush tax cuts, not just the middle class ones."

Do your Washington Post editors require you to misuse the English language this way? These are not "moderate House Dems," these are "members of the conservative Blue Dog Caucus of the Democratic Party, who would prefer to be moderate Republicans, except the Republican Party doesn't allow moderates any more."

Posted by: Acharn | September 17, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Bernie, it's interesting to note that during the Boxer/Fiorina debate, Carly wouldn't take a stand on Prop. 23. And the LA times is doing some good reporting regarding Koch and friends and what it means for Californians if they win the battle. They're dumping so much money into the campaign though so I'm not being overly confident we can defeat it. One thing in our favor is we also have legalization on our ballot this November so it will bring out a lot of DFH's to vote.

Posted by: lmsinca | September 17, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

All, Morning Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/the_morning_plum_92.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | September 17, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

At lmsinca: "One thing in our favor is we also have legalization on our ballot this November so it will bring out a lot of DFH's to vote."

I know a lot of Republicans who would vote for legalization. If I were in California, I'd be there to vote for legalization, and Fiorina, in a heart beat. William F. Buckley, conservative par excellence, was for blanket legalization of all illegal drugs.

It's usually the religious right and evangelicals that are against legalization. But even among some of them, the argument for medicinal marijuana might be making some headway.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 17, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Kevin

I probably didn't make my point very well. I think both of the props on the ballot (19 and 23) will help close the enthusiasm gap here. They're both issues which will bring out Dems and I'm hoping the trickle down will be enough to keep Fiorina and Whitman from victory. Clearly there will be conservatives energized by these issues but I don't think we'll see an abundance of liberals staying away from the polls, which works in our favor. We'll see.

Posted by: lmsinca | September 17, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Can we stop calling this a tax cut for the middle class? Everybody gets this tax cut on their first $250K, even Bill Gates. It's a tax cut for everyone.

AdAbsurdum

Posted by: bvision | September 17, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

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