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Christine O'Donnell is toxic and hurting GOP

Christine O'Donnell's victory provides the clearest sign yet that the Tea Party is damaging GOP prospects, as opposed to acting merely as an energizing and rebranding force, and a new Fox poll in Delaware shows this as clearly as you could want.

The poll's topline is that Dem Chris Coons is beating O'Donnell by a lopsided margin, 54-39, among likely voters. But the internals are even more interesting. They show that a big majority of Delaware voters says she's not qualified to be Senator:

Regardless of how you plan to vote, do you think Christine O'Donnell is qualified to be a U.S. Senator?

33% Yes

60% No

And far more say their vote will be motivated by opposition to the Tea Party movement:

Which of the following best describes how the Tea Party movement will affect your vote for SENATE this year?

26% Your vote will be to express support for the Tea Party movement

41% Your vote will be to express opposition to the Tea Party movement

30% Tea Party movement will not be a factor in your vote

3% Not sure

What's particularly interesting here is that the poll also finds that Delaware voters are sympathetic to the GOP's arguments. A majority wants smaller government; a plurality says the Federal government is out of control; and half want to repeal the health care law. Yet O'Donnell and the Tea Party are apparently so toxic that the state is nonetheless all but out of reach for the GOP.

By Greg Sargent  | September 21, 2010; 11:08 AM ET
Categories:  2010 elections, Senate Dems, Senate Republicans  
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You forgot how "EXTREME" she is (can't wait to see your head explode when she's elected ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

O/T: How dumb is Harry Reid (a continuing series):

"Reid praised Schumer at length... Then he turned his attention to Gillibrand, saying something about how "many senators are known for many things," according to a source. He added, "We in the Senate refer to Sen. Gillibrand as the hottest member."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/maggiehaberman/0910/Reid_calls_Gillibrand_the_hottest_member_at_fundraiser_.html#

Posted by: sbj3 | September 21, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Palin/O'Donnell 2012


The dream Republican Ticket. It will be the perfect witches' brew in a tea pot.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

To the 48% of Americans who are "so extreme" in their opposition to same-sex marriage:

Donate to Christine O'Donnell's campaign today!

https://secure.piryx.com/donate/ObyCSaw9/Friends-of-Christine-ODonnell/primary-victory

Or, send a check to "Friends of Christine O'Donnell" • PO Box 3987 • Wilmington, DE 19807

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

sbj3, wasn't he talking about her being added to the top 100 Best Looking people on Capital Hill or something? He might have been joking, I'm not sure cause I wasn't there but a little context to the comment. It might have been an inside joke because of her being listed on that top 100 list.

I may be wrong though.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Colbert on Christine O'Donnell: "Who in their youth wasn't a little, you know, Beelzebu-curious?"

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 21, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Liam-still:

None other than Bill Clinton himself says: Palin "a compelling, attractive figure," "to be reckoned with" mis-underestimate her at your own peril ; )

http://www.whorunsgov.com/politerati/uncategorized/bill-clinton-palin-a-compelling-attractive-figure-to-be-reckoned-with-whos-news-9-21-10/

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

For years O'Donnell made her living being a professional wackjob; she spouts nonsensical rightwing blather for a living.

Bill Maher says he "created" her, and in a way he did. Maher gave her a place, on air, to spew her silliness. Through her appearances on Maher's show she raised her profile and became known as someone you could invite on your show (or whatever other platform you have) to raise the banner of the sanity-impared.

Now we find out, from her former campaign manager, that O'Donnell is more interested in being on TV than holding public office. That sounds like a credible claim to me. Rush Limbaugh, after all, makes far more money than the typical US Senator, and Limbaugh gets to say crazy things all the time.

I don't think O'Donnell will win this election. I don't think she really wants to. I bet if Roger Ailes offered her a job at Fox news, conditioned upon her giving up on her Senate bid, she would say goodbye to politics before Ailes could finish making the offer.

Posted by: nisleib | September 21, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"To the 48% of Americans who are "so extreme" in their opposition to same-sex marriage: Donate to Christine O'Donnell's campaign today!"

Yes! Yes! In fact, Tea Baggers should only give to O'Donnell. She is the only true Republican. This is make or break for the Tea Party. It is all in this race.

So please, please, waste you money while you have the chance.

Posted by: michiganmaine | September 21, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

What Harry Reid said:

"Then he turned his attention to Gillibrand, saying something about how "many senators are known for many things," according to a source. He added, "We in the Senate refer to Sen. Gillibrand as the hottest member."

He also then discussed her knowledge of securities law as extremely deep, and suggested she was better on certain policy elements than other people, according to the sources."

So Democrats are not allowed to praise how one of their women looks, but Right Wingers get to rave over how hot Quitter Palin looks, all the time!

Harry paid the woman a compliment on both how she looks, and on her superior policy knowledge and skills.

That last part can never be said about Quitter Palin.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Oh and, I don't think anyone needs a poll to realize she's doesn't have what it takes.

Also Greg, I was listening to Hannity's radio show yesterday with Newt on.

Newt said Congressional Republicans aren't going to pledge to be on the new Contract on the Middle Class or whatever that document is that's coming out Thursday, and this is my take, they know the GOP is still disliked and not very trusted.

Hannity pushed back and said he thought it would be a great idea for the new ones (teapartiers) to pledge on the new contract but Newt said no because they don't want to associate themselves with the establishment.

It seems they believe this is all about insurgency to how things are happening in D.C. It seems imperative to drive the narrative that today's GOP are no different than 2004's GOP. Same leadership, same policies, same bloated spending, same disgrace. It's all about trying to re-brand the Republican's.

What's that about lipstick on a pig? I think it's time to pull that one out. People seem to like it.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

After dancing to Mama Told Me (and Levi) Not to Come, a Dancing with the Stars judge suggested to Bristol Palin that "This is virgin territory for you."

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 21, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"Christine O'Donnell is toxic and hurting GOP"

Could be. However, Pres. Oblather is radioactive and is KILLING the Dem party.

Poll of likely voters in the mid terms:

FIFTY-TWO PERCENT (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters say their own views are closer to Sarah Palin’s than they are to President Obama’s.

JUST 40% say their views are closer to the president’s than to those of the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate.

I LOVE the sound of Marxists being flushed in the morning!

Posted by: illogicbuster | September 21, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Joke, if she really needed the $$$ she shouldn't have pissed off Rove. He's the one with the $50 Million in oil money to spend on elections. Bad move on her part.

You know she's toxic when even a scumbag like Rove calls her out! D'oh!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 21, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse


After dancing to Mama Told Me (and Levi) Not to Come, a Dancing with the Stars judge suggested to Bristol Palin that "This is virgin territory for you."

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 21, 2010 11:33 AM |

.................

How were they even able to see her performance, to judge it, with that fourteen foot privacy fence, that Granny Grizzly had erected around her daughter, blocking the judges view?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

What are Caribou Barbie's views? I know she reads all of the newspapers so she probably thinks Sarge should be nicer to Beetle Bailey (unless he's gay), that Dagwood shouldn't let Blondie go to work and that Snoopy should fly his Sopwith Camel to Iran. What are her other views?

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I mean to say earlier:

"Newt said the new Tea Party Candidates"

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Did you know that all it takes to become a "star" on TV is to become a unwed underage mom.

That should scare all those Teenage girls, that Bristol has been urging to practice sexual abstinence, to definitely heed her advice.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Illogicluster, where's the link to that poll?

Posted by: bmcchgo | September 21, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

The most disturbing fact to come out of this poll is something that has been going on since the Palin saga. I've seen polls on the Wasilla Hillbilly the reflect the same phenemenon.

If O'Donnell has 39% of likely voters claiming that they would vote for her...while only 33% of those surveyed believe she is qualified to be a Senator...this indicates that 6% are voting for somebody they admittedly feel is unqualified to be a Senator!!!!

This is what the R party has become...a party with a substantial number of idiots!
In this case we can roughly place that number at 6%. Here in Florida we have the same % or perhaps even greater who would support a crook..Rick Scott..even though they know he's morally unfit to lead.

If I ever find myself facing the choice of an unqualified D candidate...I certainly might simply stay at home...but I'm not such a traitor to my neighbors and friends...I'm not so freaking antisocial and a knee jerk ideologue that I'd vote for an UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE! Jeesssh.

@JakeD When you were in the Army didn't they teach you about wizzing into the wind.
That's exactly what you're doing here when you post fund raising links for an UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE! Save your typing strokes or cutting and pasting. :-)

Posted by: rukidding7 | September 21, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

nisleib:

For years (SENATOR) Al Franken made his living being a professional wackjob; he spouted nonsensical leftwing blather on a now-defunct radio station. Before that, he was Stuart Smalley on SNL.

Your "point" was?

michiganmaine:

Rest assured that she's not the only candidate I am donating to ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

rukidding7:

We'll see on Election Day (she's already raised over $2 million since she won the primary ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

At this moment we have the Senate and House filled to the brim with rich, politically astute and well-educated morons. O'Donnell is none of the above. She certainly can't do worse than we have now. I say give her a fair turn at bringing some common sense back into our governance of America.

Posted by: blossom3 | September 21, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Illogicluster, where's the link to that poll?

Posted by: bmcchgo | September 21, 2010 11:41 AM

............

Where he pulled it out of, and where his head is stuck up.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Oh man, this is rough. She's not only toxic to the GOP, she's toxic to what the tea party stands for, according to the tea party.

"Andrew Ian Dodge is the Maine state coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, one of the largest tea party umbrella groups. TPP doesn't endorse candidates, but that hasn't stopped Dodge from expressing his own opinion about O'Donnell. He thinks she's a bit of a nutter. "Everything I've seen about her has made me laugh my ass off," he says. "What the hell do you say? First you have Alvin Green, and now you have her." His concern is that if she loses in the general election to Democrat Chris Coons, the defeat will be widely regarded as a reflection on the tea party movement -- and he doesn't want that."

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/148228/tea_party_leader_lashes_out_against_christine_o%27donnell%3A_%22she%27s_a_loser%22/

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

blossom3:

AMEN!

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

@JakeD. "We'll see on Election Day (she's already raised over $2 million since she won the primary ; )"

Yes we will Jake. Care to make a "friendly" wager? The loser will simply have to show up on this blog the day after the election and proclaim what a dim bulb they are and how they know nothing about politics.

I'll take the pledge to say just that if you wish to wager up front. ;-)

Now I admit upfront that is a hugely unfair wager given how badly she trails...however it is YOU who have now twice proclaimed how she is going to surprise us. And so I'm just trying to ascertain how much you truly believe that.
Care to make the wager?

Posted by: rukidding7 | September 21, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington:

It seems as if Mr. Dodge didn't read her issues page.

Christine O’Donnell on the issues

Jobs Believes jobs are created when businesses are freed from endless taxes and bureaucratic red tape.

Security Believes terrorism is an act of war requiring the full force of our intelligence and military resources rather than granting terrorists precious Constitutional rights and outsourcing our foreign policy to the U.N.

Debt Believes heaping trillions in debt on the backs of our grandchildren is immoral and that Congress is elected to make the hard choices to preserve our nation’s future prosperity.

Taxes Will fight to remove the crushing tax burden faced by American families and businesses and dramatically simplify the tax code.

Life Strongly believes in protecting the sanctity of life at ALL stages.

Energy Supports a market-based approach to energy solutions that will keep competition high and energy prices low.

Values Believes our country was founded on core values of faith, family and freedom and will fight to defend those values. Will always fight for maximum choice for parents about where to educate their kids, including private, parochial and charter schools or in the home.

Spending Believes unrestrained government spending is eroding our freedom, destroying our economy and ceding our sovereignty to foreign debt- holders like China.

Accountability Denounces corrupt pork-barrel politics, including earmarks, and will fight for increased transparency and performance information for every Federal program.

Healthcare Believes that the solution to the healthcare crisis is less government meddling in the doctor/patient relationship, more competition in the insurance market and more choice for families about their health plan.

Gun Control Christine’s strong support of 2nd Amendment rights has earned her an “A” rating from the NRA.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

John Cole is a trip. This is in regards to what will be inevitably a filibuster.

"Also, it goes without saying that any failure to have these two items passed is not the fault of the troglodyte bigots who blocked the bills or the dysfunctional Senate rules that always seem to call for a supermajority when the President is a Democrat, but Obama for failing to use the bully pulpit."

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Jake: Christine O'Donnell was known (in that she was known at all) purely for her wacked out beliefs. Al Franken was a well known comedian and author for decades before he went into politics.

They are opposites. One (Franken) used his celebrity to help him get elected to office and is actively trying to stay OFF of TV. One (O'Donnell) is trying to get elected to increase her celebrity and get ON TV.

I know people like you hate nuance, but really, these are not the same thing.

And if Franken had a track record of saying nutzoid things like O'Donnell does he never would have won. Did Franken say outrageous things from time to time, sure, but not like O'Donnell.

Posted by: nisleib | September 21, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"However, Pres. Oblather is radioactive and is KILLING the Dem party"

Obama polls better at this point in his presidency than Ronald Reagan did in his.

Oh, and more Americans also were opposed to Reagan's stances than in favor of them, very consistently, throughout his time in the Oval Office.


I guess you're too young to remember any of that.

Posted by: akaoddjob | September 21, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

JakeD2, platitudes are meaningless.

Saying I'm for more freedom and personal responsibility is garbage when you're about to be a legislator.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"I say give her a fair turn at bringing some common sense back into our governance of America."

How is giving the richest people on Earth a huge tax cut "common sense"?

It is flat-out idiotic, financially-speaking.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 21, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

rukidding7:

God willing, I will be here. Let's make it a REAL wager though. If O'Donnell wins, you will donate $100 to the Heritage Foundation, and if Coons wins, I will donate $100 to the ACLU.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Let me see: On the one hand you've got a Coons who entered college as a nice, America-loving young lad and became a "bearded Marxist" in his final years.

“Chris Coons: The Making of a Bearded Marxist.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36726.html

On the other hand, you've got a woman who spent her early college years living the party life before having a religious conversion and deciding promiscuity is not all it's cracked up to be.
http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/20100916/UPDATES01/100916020/Tea-Party-s-newest-darling-turned-her-life-around-in-Morris-County-NJ

If you were a political consultant, which story would you prefer selling to voters of a state with leafy suburbs in the north and conservative small towns in the south?

Just asking.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

"Did Franken say outrageous things from time to time, sure, but not like O'Donnell."

Big diff. Franken was trying to be funny whereas O'Donnell just came across as funny.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Contribute money to Christine O'Donnell.

She needs political contributions to live off of. She has used up all the contributions, from her previous campaign, to pay her personal living expenses, so she needs your money now.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

nisleib:

Franken said WORSE things!!!

mikefromArlington:

My point was that Mr. Dodge (whom you so happily quoted) claimed: "Everything I've seen about her has made me laugh my ass off," so it's quite clear he hasn't seen her issues page -- more than half of which are right off the TEA Party platform!

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"If you were a political consultant, which story would you prefer selling to voters"

More like which is more believable? O'Donnell is a 40 year old virgin or Coons is a good all around family guy.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Jake - No he didn't.

Posted by: nisleib | September 21, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"Christine O'Donnell is toxic and hurting GOP"

Good.

Chalk one up for the forces of light.

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 21, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Harry Reid's Bearded-Marxist "Pet"

Really? Really.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/119017-reid-coons-qmy-petq-will-win-de-senate-seat
=====
"I'm going to be very honest with you — Chris Coons, everybody knows him in the Democratic caucus. He's my pet. He's my favorite candidate," Reid said.
=====
Just a slip of the tongue, I guess. Surely he wouldn't beta male-ize a candidate for Senate. Must have meant something else. Right?

Putting aside the sheer Dr. Evil goofiness of referring to someone as “my pet,” does Harry Reid not understand that his endorsement doesn’t help, even in an (allegedly) blue state?

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

To the 60% who do not think she is "qualified" to be Senator:

As a woman of principled determination, with a governing philosophy centered on the core values of the great American tradition and a wide experience in taking on the liberal establishment, Christine O’Donnell is more than qualified to be a Senator.

Christine has served as a marketing and media consultant to various clients, including: Icon Pictures’ The Passion of The Christ; Natalia Tsarkova, the Vatican’s first female portrait painter; and non-profit organizations such as the World Education and Development Fund, a charity that provides scholarships to children in poor communities throughout Latin America.

After attending Fairleigh Dickinson University in Madison, NJ, Christine was awarded a 2002 Abraham Lincoln Graduate Fellowship in Constitutional Government from the Claremont Institute in Claremont, CA.

Christine O’Donnell is a nationally recognized political commentator and marketing consultant. She appears weekly, sometimes daily, on national news outlets such as the Fox News Channel, CNN, C-SPAN, MSNBC and ABC, including major ratings hits like “The O’Reilly Factor,” “Hannity & Colmes,” “The Glenn Beck Show,” “Hardball with Chris Matthews” and “Entertainment Tonight.” Christine is also a frequent radio talk show guest-host on WGMD in Rehoboth Beach and WDEL in Wilmington, DE.

As part of a delegation of journalists, Christine toured the middle-eastern country of Jordan as a guest of the Royal Jordanian government. Having witnessed firsthand the oppression in the Middle East, Christine describes this journey as truly a life changing experience and says it deepened her commitment to the women’s movement.

An effective communicator, Christine is known for her skill in winning over even those who disagree with her most. Liberal Bill Maher stated, “I don’t know how many times you’ve been here but it’s always a good show when you’re on.” Even Democratic strategist James Carville was forced to admit of Christine O’Donnell “Now, this is one hip woman,” on CNN’s “Crossfire.”

During her 20-year career, Christine has served as a social advocate in Washington, D.C., participating in regular White House and Capitol Hill strategy meetings and leading delegations to the United Nations to lobby on behalf of pro-family global policies. She’s successfully debated Cabinet members, lawmakers and international leaders.

In the early 1990’s Christine worked for the Republican National Committee (under then Chairman Haley Barbour) helping to develop the marketing strategy credited with having had a key role in the historic ’94 Republican Congressional sweep.

She was at least BORN in the USA, is at least 30 years old, and an inhabitant of the state she seeks to represent.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Jake, at least we can both agree the Tea Party is meaningless platitudes that don't solve any problems. Or can you explain to me how:

"Energy Supports a market-based approach to energy solutions that will keep competition high and energy prices low"

solves our energy dependence problem.

It's all a bunch of garbage. All of it. No specifics ever. Nothing. They have zero ideas. It's all a fund raising scheme to get into power to provide more perks for industry that is pouring in the cash to their campaigns.

It's all a show.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

So this is where the NeoLib cabal members ended up. I was wondering where you terds got flushed to when Froomkin got canned! Now you are Sargent "Scumbag" acolytes. Too funny...

Posted by: trjn30 | September 21, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Liam-still @ September 21, 2010 11:23 AM: Shall it be a tempest?

(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

Posted by: AMviennaVA | September 21, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington wrote:

"It's all a bunch of garbage. All of it. No specifics ever. Nothing. They have zero ideas. It's all a fund raising scheme to get into power to provide more perks for industry that is pouring in the cash to their campaigns."

A strategy taken right from the Obama playbook! Rahm would be proud!

Posted by: trjn30 | September 21, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

nisleib:

I guess you never listened to his show on the (now-defunct) Air America Radio network. Do I have to remind you about the Presidential veto lesson I gave you too?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Jake2D, just out of curiosity I Googled the Claremont Institute to see what kind of prestigious place it was.

Check out this website.

http://www.claremont.org/

It looks like it was put together by a five year old.

Not sure if I'd have that on a resume.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

To those of you who keep using names for Obama like "Oblather" etc. It just makes you look stupid. If you can't make a point without stupid, crass names like "NoBama" and yes, "Shrubya", you have no business commenting. No one takes that kind of drivel seriously. You probably belong on Free Republic or Fox Nation.

Posted by: DJShay | September 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

To those of you who keep using names for Obama like "Oblather" etc. It just makes you look stupid. If you can't make a point without stupid, crass names like "NoBama" and yes, "Shrubya", you have no business commenting. No one takes that kind of drivel seriously. You probably belong on Free Republic or Fox Nation.

Posted by: DJShay | September 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

To those of you who keep using names for Obama like "Oblather" etc. It just makes you look stupid. If you can't make a point without stupid, crass names like "NoBama" and yes, "Shrubya", you have no business commenting. No one takes that kind of drivel seriously. You probably belong on Free Republic or Fox Nation.

Posted by: DJShay | September 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Want to know who's toxic?

Former pot head and cocaine freak Barack Obama.

Posted by: robtr | September 21, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Rush is right--libs will tell you who they fear by who they attack and obsess. If Christine O'Donnell truly has no chance of winning, then why does the lib media attack/obsess over her so much? And why does Sargent or any other lib care about what hurts the GOP (isn't that the point?) But here's a fact that all you libs can wash down with your Kool-Aid--Delaware is as blue as they come. A tea party candidate losing in Delaware can hardly be termed a bellwether.

Posted by: kbarker302 | September 21, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"It's all a show."

Yes.

Totally.

It's all a show and a distraction from the real power players behind the scenes. The ultra-elite uber-wealthy like the ones funding Karl Rove's new groups.

The Tea Party policies are exactly the same as the "Establishment" they rail against. Pretty pathetic. But it's even MORE pathetic how easily duped people like Joke here are. Sad, really, that the conservative/Republican ultra-elite Establishment speaks through Jane Everyman and Joe the Plumber while favoring policies that only serve the top 2%. It's a "Revolution" to the Tea Partiers, but it's actually just "new and improved" marketing for the ultra-wealthy conservative corporate elite.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | September 21, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

How anyone could have watched the last election cycle (2 years and over 20 debates) and say Obama didn't offer specifics... You would have to be mentally challenged.

Posted by: nisleib | September 21, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party does have a dilemma. Should they back this woman, who could easily discredit the entire movement. How can they make the decision? They don't know what else is going to come out about her. Hence, the tepid half support, half distancing from the MA guy.

An interesting poll would be a national poll that asks how Christine O'Donnell candidacy affects one's opinion of the Tea Party. Perhaps that poll is coming.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 21, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

And what the hell does this even mean?

"She’s successfully debated Cabinet members, lawmakers and international leaders"

Did she make it through without falling? What was the measurement of success? Seriously man.

Give it up. O'Donnell is a joke of a candidate. Embracing her is only making Republicans look more silly than they already look.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Conservative Group fired Christine O'Donnell for conducting mostly personal work, while on their payroll. She sued them for gender discrimination. , and then dropped the suit, without getting any settlement.

She is a Grifter, plain and simple.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/citing-mental-anguish-christine-odonnell-sought-69-million-gender-discrimination-lawsuit-again

"Court documents obtained Saturday by THE WEEKLY STANDARD reveal surprising new details about the gender discrimination and wrongful termination lawsuit filed by Christine O'Donnell in 2005 against her former employer, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, a conservative non-profit based in Delaware.* O'Donnell, who is now challenging moderate congressman Mike Castle in the September 14 Delaware GOP Senate primary, sought $6.95 million in damages. In a court complaint, she extensively detailed the "mental anguish" she suffered after allegedly being demoted and fired because of her gender. And, although she didn't have a bachelor's degree until this year, O'Donnell implied she was taking master's degree classes at Princeton University in 2003.

O'Donnell alleged in a July 1, 2005 complaint filed in district court that she had been demoted because ISI's conservative philosophy dictated that women must be subordinate to men. She claimed she was fired when she contacted the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission regarding her demotion. ISI told the Delaware News Journal that she had been "terminated for operating a for-profit business."

O'Donnell's finances, honesty, and stability have been called into question in light of her false and strange claims. The court complaint raises further questions on all fronts. O'Donnell, who made an annual salary of $65,000 at ISI as director of communications and public affairs, sought up to $6,952,477 million in damages, claiming, among other allegations, that ISI had defamed her and had violated Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. O'Donnell sought:

--Up to $3,952,447 in "Direct Damages, including back pay" and "lifetime lost income and liftetime damage to reputation."

--Up to $500,000 "for emotional distress, humiliation, emotional pain, embarrassment, depression."

--Up to $3.5 million in punitive damages for "willful, legally-malicious and outrageous conduct" by ISI.

O'Donnell claimed that ISI had caused her to suffer "mental anguish, loss of enjoyment of life, mental and physical pain and anguish"--and that, according to an amended complaint, she had to "seek treatment for her distress."

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell was prepping for last Sunday's news shows. Her staff asked her to elaborate on Roe v. Wade as they thought that would surely be brought up on Fox if no where else.

When she said: "That was the decision made by George Washington on how to cross the Delaware." they decided she needed a little more prep time.

I thought it was a perfectly good answer myself.

Posted by: James10 | September 21, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

"Rush is right--libs will tell you who they fear by who they attack and obsess."

Not really. We make fun of stupid people who act like they belong on Jerry Springer rather than in a debate for elected office.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Give it up. O'Donnell is a joke of a candidate. Embracing her is only making Republicans look more silly than they already looking
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I agree. When the silly Alvin Greene was nominated, I didn't defend him. I don't remember anyone defending him. Mistakes happen--it's better to acknowledge it and move on. Even Karl Rove is saying that.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 21, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington:

I'm from California, so I know the reputation of the Claremont Colleges and the Claremont Institute (while I favor the Hoover Institution at my alma mater, it is still well regarded). As for it's web sites, I preferred the aesthetics on the Bush White House site over the current site, so?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

She is a Grifter, who lied, to the court about her education.


"According to the amended complaint, O'Donnell had considered not taking the ISI job because "she had applied for admission to a Master’s Degree program at Princeton University, to start in the fall of 2003, and was concerned that the ISI position would not fit with her plans."

But, in fact, O'Donnell had not yet received her bachelor's degree at that time and had not been accepted to a master's program at Princeton.

The Delaware News Journal reported on Saturday: "[O'Donnell's] alma mater, Fairleigh Dickinson University, sued her in 1994 for about $4,000 in unpaid tuition. She satisfied the debt in 2003 and received her diploma this month after completing an additional course." O'Donnell's campaign manager Matt Moran acknowledged in an email received at midnight Saturday that O'Donnell "was not admitted to a Masters Degree program at Princeton. She took an undergraduate non-matriculated class at PU on constitutional government." Moran has not yet replied to a subsequent email asking why O'Donnell claimed "ISI violated its promise to allow Miss ODonnell time to take Master's degree classes at Princeton in return for a salary as small as $65,000 for her credentials and expertise, and as a result of ISI's breach of its agreement, Miss O'Donnell was forced to quit her courses at Princeton, losing her time and money invested in this course of study at Princeton."

O'Donnell decided to drop the lawsuit in 2008, claiming that she couldn't afford the legal fees"

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

trolls, maybe you could tell us what O'Donnell plans to do as a sitting Senator, and how this comes from her vast experience as a marketing genius and political operative.

Her resume is almost completely inside politics. How do you on the right find her "outside politics"?

Finally, do you think she's smarter than you? If so, why? How will this make her an effective Senator?

Posted by: BGinCHI | September 21, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

--Up to $3,952,447 in "Direct Damages, including back pay" and "lifetime lost income and liftetime damage to reputation."
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Who says this ain't the Land of Opportunity?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 21, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"I preferred the aesthetics on the Bush White House site over the current site, so?"

Aesthetics is one thing. That web site looks like it was created in word and uploaded. I bet boobs.com has a more professional looking site than that. If someone isn't willing to put in the effort, how serious of an establishment can it be. They look like a complete joke of a group and if they aren't, they sure aren't helping themselves by not taking themselves seriously and showing a bit of self pride.

It's like showing up to a wedding in cut off jeans and a t-shirt. Sure, you might be a great guy but you'll be the laughing stock of the party because you don't know what's appropriate and what's not.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Jake - Sure, I heard him on his radio show, so what? He didn't say anything as crazy as O'Donnell.

And my point about veto THREATS is still valid; if a President has to publically threaten a veto when his party controls both houses of congress that is a sign of weakness. Indeed, I don't recall you ever saying that that is not true.

Posted by: nisleib | September 21, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

She's a Grifter:

" "During her 2008 run, her mortgage company sued her, claiming she stopped making payments in October 2007, according to court documents. It received a judgment and the home was set to go to sheriff's sale, according to court documents. She sold it days before to her then-boyfriend, who was acting as her campaign legal counsel, she said."

"She has a shady history and we’re not talking ancient history," conservative radio host Dan Gaffney tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD. "We’re talking current history, and she lies about it."

"You know, everyone is allowed to have financial difficulties," Gaffney continued. "Everyone is allowed to take time to go to college. But misrepresenting yourself, lying about it, that’s what I have a problem with. I don’t understand why she has to lie about stuff she doesn’t have to lie about."

Even more disturbing, says Gaffney, is O'Donnell's claim in her recent WEEKLY STANDARD interview that her home and campaign office were broken into and vandalized and burglarized in 2008. O'Donnell did not report the alleged burglary and vandalism to the police, but suggested that Castle supporters may have been the ones who committed the alleged crime.

“If that’s true and she didn’t call the police, she’s not only endangering herself but her neighbors," says Gaffney. "She also likes to say there are people hiding in her bushes.”

"It doesn’t sound stable when you add it all up.""

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans will continue to put forth attractive women, no matter how whacky, because they know that conservative men will think with the wrong head and vote for those women no matter if they are qualified or not (see Sarah Palin--) - how any truly responsible, thinking American, of either political ideology, could mark their ballot with these people who are clearly not qualified and in fact sound like threats to our country's ability to have governance is beyond me and truly scary as hell--

Posted by: southernbutnotstupid | September 21, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

If Christine O’Donnell’s supporters are worried about her "toxicity”, then they’re not demonstrating it where it counts: the bank account.

Since winning the primary last week, O’Donnell has gone on a fundraising tear of nearly $2 million online, nearing what Scott Brown raised in Massachusetts earlier this year in his special election effort.

Anyone remember what happened to Ted Kennedy's seat? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 @ September 21, 2010 12:05 PM wrote a few things about O'Donnell. The internet is a wonderful thing:

1. "As a woman of principled determination, with a governing philosophy centered on the core values of the great American tradition and a wide experience in taking on the liberal establishment, Christine O’Donnell is more than qualified to be a Senator." Interesting that she violated election slaw for more than a year by being her own treasurer. Must a lapse in ethics, along the lines of Gingrich's standards on marital fidelity.

2. "After attending Fairleigh Dickinson University in Madison, NJ" Somehow she only just received a degree. It took her what, about 20 years to complete a 4 year course?! She makes Palin, who needed 5 years and 4 universities to get a degree and quit her previous job, a model of efficiency.

3. "Christine was awarded a 2002 Abraham Lincoln Graduate Fellowship in Constitutional Government from the Claremont Institute in Claremont, CA." Sounds impressive, till you look up the Claremont Institute. Anyone who spouts the conservative talking points can get a fellowship there.

3. "In the early 1990’s Christine worked for the Republican National Committee (under then Chairman Haley Barbour)" Barbour ... isn't he the one who is trying to present TODAY's Republicans as the champions of the Civil Rights legislation that imposes federal control over what the states can do?

By the way, have you seen her birth certificate? Are you sure it's genuine? Can you truly rely on what a witch tells you?

Posted by: AMviennaVA | September 21, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell is...pointless. Just like Alvin Greene, the unemployed, mute Democratic Senate candidate in South Carolina. The MSM can only focus all it's energy on a irrelevant has-been candidate for maybe another week. Then they are actually going to have to cover all the Republicans who are polling surprisingly competitively with Democrats in blue states. Not to mention the eternal testament to stimulus folly, 9.6% unemployment, and the eternally unfolding disaster known as Obamacare.

Posted by: dummypants | September 21, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

At least she's not under indictment like Greene. O'Donnell also never implied that she was taking master's degree classes, nor that she had been accepted, at Princeton University -- she did take one undergraduate, non-matriculated class at PU on constitutional government -- in fact, her lawsuit specifically alleged that "ISI violated its promise to allow Miss O'Donnell time to take Master's degree classes ..."

What part of that don't you understand?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"O’Donnell has gone on a fundraising tear of nearly $2 million online"

Just think how many starving children that 2 million wasted could have fed or how many pairs of shoes to cover the feet of homeless children that could have purchased.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

dummypants:

Don't write her off just yet ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

oh, now she's not as bad as Alvin Greene?

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's a pretty low bar, counselor.

Anybody have Coons resume? That's the real bar, isn't it?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | September 21, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Greg

There are several hostile posters here


Everyone is trying to keep the discussion civil.


However, several posters are attempting to provoke fights here -


But when a few people come on - and start off with the hostility right off - there is a problem. These people are inviting a fight - they are looking for people to respond to them in an equally nasty way.


Comment:

mikefromArlington | September 20, 2010 11:59 AM


Comments like this - which start the name-calling - invite name-calling in return. I think everyone wants civil discussion.


IN addition there is another poster 12barblues - who has been recruiting her friends to come over to this blog - and she is encouraging them to make nasty comments and to start fights on this blog.

It is CLEAR that several posters have arrived here - who are attempting to provoke fights.


There is a difference between issue discussion - and hostile comments aimed at other posters.


The comments have gone downhill significantly.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | September 21, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington:

Rukidding (me)?! The Dems are going to "waste" way more than $2 million on losing candidates this year. You seriously cannot be questioning why they won't donate that to homeless.

As for Claremont's web site, it looks the same as http://www.hoover.org/ (and you'd better choose your next words carefully ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Thank God Americans see this woman as a dimwit. There may be some hope for us yet. Now if Americans will just realize that this dingbat freak is YOUR NEW GOP, then maybe they'll find sanity before November and vote Dem.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

New thread please. Can only take so much of the stoopid. Did Drudge link to this post?

Posted by: cmccauley60 | September 21, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is her role model. Embrace public service only as long as it takes to get a media deal, then bolt. Yes...the same media who you will criticize every time they actually notice your nuttiness. Money chasers, all of them. Not one ounce of sincerity in anything they do...every single movement calculated to position themselves to make more money - and the Tea Baggers are buying it all! Crazy!

Posted by: CenterLeft | September 21, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

So, the TeaBaggers have no difficulty in spending money on Grifter O'Donnell, and on trips to DC, while all the time complaining about how badly they are doing during this Bush Great Depression. Hmmmmmm!

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues:

Read the REST of my posts.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Christine O'Donnell is toxic to Obammunism as penicillin is toxic to a bacterial infection. She is the cure for what ails us!

Posted by: braunt | September 21, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

All, got that new poll from SEIU, proves conclusively that Dems should hold that vote on the tax cuts:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/new_poll_shows.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | September 21, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

braunt:

AMEN!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

So 39% will vote for her, but only 33% consider her qualified. Quite an electorate we've got.

Posted by: tml1 | September 21, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

[mike sneered: "Just think how many starving children that 2 million wasted could have fed or how many pairs of shoes to cover the feet of homeless children that could have purchased."]

Does mike mean O'Donnell's campaign or Michelle Obama's wardrobe allowance?

Anyone know whether Barry's doper step brother George has new shoes for his hut in Kenyan.

Got Hope?
http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/31/obamas-brother-gone-to-pot/

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"Christine O'Donnell is toxic to Obammunism as penicillin is toxic to a bacterial infection. She is the cure for what ails us!

Posted by: braunt | September 21, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse "

If what ails you 'us' is intelligence and fiscal responsiblity then she is definitely toxic to 'us.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse


Liam-still @ September 21, 2010 11:23 AM: Shall it be a tempest?

(Sorry, I couldn't resist)

Posted by: AMviennaVA | September 21, 2010 12:07 PM ........


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Nothing to be sorry for, my friend. Continue to Othello it like it is.

How about casting Quitter Palin, as the Merchant Of Venison?

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I'd trust all-American girl Christine O'Donnell over that Bearded Marxist professor Coons anyday.

"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University."
--W.F. Buckley--

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"After attending Fairleigh Dickinson University in Madison, NJ, Christine was awarded a 2002 Abraham Lincoln Graduate Fellowship in Constitutional Government from the Claremont Institute in Claremont, CA. "

Actually the Claremont Institute has nothing to do witht he Claremont Colleges. And, despite being called a "Graduate Fellowship", the institute does not seem to grant degrees. We could also note that O'Donnell was not a graduate with a BA at the time, so that shows pretty low standards for the institute. On the other hand, she probably lied to them about that.

Posted by: michiganmaine | September 21, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"I'd trust all-American girl Christine O'Donnell over that Bearded Marxist professor Coons anyday.

"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University."
--W.F. Buckley--

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse "

Thus continues the Right Wing trend of looking to the least intelligent and successful of us for leadership. You're pathetic.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Vote For The Grifting Witch who cured Conan O'Brien's Bear.

Posted by: Liam-still | September 21, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

SaveTheRainforest says, "The comments have gone downhill significantly."

So true, and it all started when STRF and that nut who calls everyone a nazi/quisling invaded this blog.

Of course the presence of right wing spambots is going to cause the comments to go downhill. Greg knows this and allows the comments anyway. If you don't like it go away, because Greg isn't going to do anything about it.

Posted by: nisleib | September 21, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

[idiotarian sneered: "maybe you could tell us what O'Donnell plans to do as a sitting Senator"]

It’s become a trope that Taxed Enough Already (TEA) candidates like O'Donnell don’t have an agenda. That’s unfair. "We’re in favor of a lot of things and we’re against mighty few," Lyndon Johnson said in 1964, on the cusp of the Great Society boondoggle.

Take Johnson's statement and turn it on its head, and you have the thrust of the TEA-party agenda.

Or, in a word: ENOUGH!

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

ZOMG a tsunami of stupid just entered. It's like a wall of "I know you are but what am I" posts all at once.

Run for higher ground!!!!! lol

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

To the 48% of Americans who are "so extreme" in their opposition to same-sex marriage:

Donate to Christine O'Donnell's campaign today!

https://secure.piryx.com/donate/ObyCSaw9/Friends-of-Christine-ODonnell/primary-victory

Or, send a check to "Friends of Christine O'Donnell" • PO Box 3987 • Wilmington, DE 19807

Posted by: JakeD2
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It's looking desperate and pathetic to post this...

Posted by: beeker25 | September 21, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

@Jake:"Donate to Christine O'Donnell's campaign today!"

Just some friendly advice: you might want to save your money for her legal defense fund. She's going to need it.

"Christine O'Donnell is clearly a criminal, and like any crook she should be prosecuted," said Melanie Sloan, CREW Executive Director. In complaints filed with the Federal Election Commission and the US Attorney's Office in Delaware, CREW alleges that O'Donnell used $20,000 in campaign funds to pay for living expenses in 2009 and 2010. "By misusing campaign funds," said Sloan in a statement, "Ms. O'Donnell committed the crime of conversion; by lying about her expenditures on forms she filed with the FEC, she committed false statements; and by failing to include the campaign funds she misappropriated as income, she committed tax evasion. "

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Politics/christine-odonnell-criminal-claims-crew/story?id=11684882

Posted by: schrodingerscat | September 21, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The plum line or the dumb line?????

Hey Sarge - Do you realize that every time you open your mouth or write another piece of warped propaganda you strengthen Americans who are organizing by the millions against the loony left. You and those like you are the biggest recruiting tool that the Tea Party has available to it. Keep up the good work!

And if you want to talk extreme, why don’t we talk about the commander in training pants (obama), who attended a hate filled faux church for YEARS, or how about his wife who was proud to be an American for the first time only just prior to the election and only because her husband (the commander and thief) was running for president. Or maybe we could talk about barney frank who’s live in lover was operating a prostitution operation from barney’s apartment, or perhaps we could talk about bill clinton who’s main claim to fame was getting serviced in the oval office by a young intern who spent most of her time under his desk. The list goes on and on and on, but the loony left will do what they do, viciously attack anyone who isn’t in lock step with their warped ideology. Those who are on board get a pass. What a complete joke!

November will be a time to remember!!!

Posted by: SayWhat5 | September 21, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

@TwoTermObama: Thus continues the Leftist trend of electing the most effete and elitist (bereft of common sense) among us for Dear Leaders. They're pathetic.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why I should care about this.

Oh that's right, I don't.

Vote for whoever you want on election day.

Then support whoever gets elected.

Posted by: ZZim | September 21, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"electing the most effete "

I'm pretty certain Obama could take the last few Republican's elected to the W.H. at the same time.

Just sayin'

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Coons states repeatedly that he “cut wasteful spending” as county Executive, but the specifics of that outlined in this report on the 2010 budget involve 5% pay cuts for county employees and layoffs for paramedics in the training pipeline. Spending cuts, yes – but wasteful spending? On the other hand, here are some of the things the county council under Coons declined to cut in 2007.
http://delawareconservatives.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/new-castle-county-council-rejects-cost-cutting-proposals/

So Coons cut paramedics first; but avoided cutting vital stuff like catered meals at council meetings or $15000 per member graft fund.

Reid's Bearded Marxist pet. Perfect.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Al Franken greets Christine O'Donnell on the floor of the senate.

"So, who is the spiritual advisor to the honorable senator from Delaware?

Is it Billy Graham? Is it Rick Warren? Or, could it be, . . . SATAN?"

Posted by: seattle_wa | September 21, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

michiganmaine:

Neither is the Hoover Institution OFFICIALLY affiliated with Stanford University. Of course, the Claremont Institute was founded by four students of Harry V. Jaffa, a professor emeritus at Claremont McKenna College and the Claremont Graduate University, with many of the interns and Fellows being selected from the Claremont Colleges. So, it's a little more than "has nothing to do" with the Colleges.

Also, Miss O'Donnell never claimed that she graduated (until she did graduate this year). How many fine, upstanding Americans never graduated from college do you think?

beeker:

$2 million (and counting) "looks desparate" to you?! LOL

scat:

She's not "clearly a criminal" until she's convicted (as I pointed out, Greene at least has been indicted ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

KaddafiDelendaEst, so, what's up with the 9/11 terrorist worship site being directly built on ground zero? Haven't heard much about that lately. Probably because the talking heads on the right aren't working you folks into a frenzy about it any longer I suppose.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"The plum line or the dumb line?????"

Wow! Did you think of that line all by yourself?

I'm sure Greg is just crushed.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | September 21, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Rasmussen: Voters feel closer to Palin than Obama, 52/40
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2010/52_of_voters_say_their_views_are_more_like_palin_s_than_obama_s

"Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters say their own views are closer to Sarah Palin’s than they are to President Obama’s, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

"Just 40% say their views are closer to the president’s than to those of the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate.

"Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s."
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Just sayin'

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Even Jake can't defend this one, but he's going to die trying ahaha

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I watched a couple of her Youtube videos and she did not come across as extreme, nor did she come across as stupid. Indeed she was much more articulate in these videos than Palin was in 2008.

Perhaps her solution is to make sure that voters hear directly FROM her rather than hear ABOUT her from Democrats.

It is obvious by now that Democrats have become avid students of Karl Rove and hatchet jobs have become an important Democratic tool.

To his credit, Obama himself has not gone in for slime, and hopefully he will stay that way as the campaign progresses.

Posted by: rjpal | September 21, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@JakeD I certainly accept a "friendly" bet.
However I don't wish cash to be involved..not even sure that's legal..although I admit it'd be pretty funny if we got busted for a $100 donation.

Let's just stick to crow...eating it that is.
You can pick the sentence(s) we are wagering that we will type on this blog the day after the election.

I appreciate your offer of wagering the $100 but simply feel more comfortable putting our "reputations" as political prognosticators on the line.

See you here the day after the election. :-)

Posted by: rukidding7 | September 21, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"To his credit, Obama himself has not gone in for slime"

No need to slime when the slug leaves its own trail.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"She's not "clearly a criminal" until she's convicted (as I pointed out, Greene at least has been indicted)"

What does Greene have to do with anything? Did I mention him or imply that I supported him in any way? No? Right.

She's in some serious trouble. Especially since her only defense so far has consisted of slamming CREW as a "liberal" organization - laughable on its face.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | September 21, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

"Voters feel closer to Palin than Obama" in an off year election of Rasmussen's measured LV's.

Who cares.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | September 21, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

>>>>A majority wants smaller government;

Teabagger/Republicans who work in air-conditioned offices in cushioned seats want to cut Medicare and Social Security benefits and raise the eligibility age for Social Security. Go for it, Teabaggers! Those who work in back breaking jobs will break from the GOP for decades.
ANTI-government GOP Alaska senate candidate Joe Miller has received $14,000 in farm subsidies from the government - but Fox & Frightwing radio don't report Republican hypocricies.

Posted by: angie12106 | September 21, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Jake: "Neither is the Hoover Institution OFFICIALLY affiliated with Stanford University. Of course, the Claremont Institute was founded by four students of Harry V. Jaffa, a professor emeritus at Claremont McKenna College and the Claremont Graduate University, with many of the interns and Fellows being selected from the Claremont Colleges. So, it's a little more than "has nothing to do" with the Colleges."

Actually, you are wrong about this. The Hoover is affiliated with Stanford. It is housed on Stanford.

"Also, Miss O'Donnell never claimed that she graduated (until she did graduate this year). "

And you are wrong about this. She lied about this in the past.

But enough of this argument. We all know who is going to win in November. You are trying to put a good face on it. But you know you will lose this one.

Posted by: michiganmaine | September 21, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

[mike sneered: "what's up with the 9/11 terrorist worship site"]

"Historic 9/11 Stop Ground Zero Desecration Rally"
http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2010/09/massive-911-rally-news-distorted-by-establishment-media/

The American people yet again have been served a false narrative by the dominant liberal establishment mass media. Just as the MSM joined the administration in smearing the Tea Party movement as racist, and a hotbed for right-wing terrorism they now have extended that propaganda theme to those who oppose the mosque at ground zero.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

You make the same error as Krauthammer. The teaparty is NOT the GOP and is not willing to compromise conservatism for party domination. Rather, it is COMMITTED to ousting Washington as usual, go along to get along politicians who accomplish nothing but spending more and taxing more and trying to stay in office.

The Teaparty does not care whether the Rs or the Ds have the majority. They will get rid of Obama and his group EVENTUALLY if not in November. This is a long range sea change...not a short burst rally of Hope and Change or Yes we can sloganism.

The Republican Media pundits suffer often from the same elitist attitudes as that of the Democrats loyalists....But all of them are prepared to demand a sacrifice of values or consistency just to win power and conquer the OTHER bunch.

The teaparty intends to fire both parties of concentration on domination, until whoever is left MUST find how to cooperate for the good of the people, and not for those seeking favors and paying for reelections.

Wake up journalists, or get left behind as well.

Posted by: joelevin | September 21, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 12:05 PM
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You seem to forget about the time that she lived off her campaign money between campaigns while holding no jobs which a public integrity organization is calling for an investigation into the matter. She even said that she ran into financial problems necessitating a foreclosure on her house is one of them.

The money she got from the TEA Party Express is run by the Republican operatives (one of them is Sal Russo) capitalizing on this for the purpose to resuscitate their career so they can continue to live lavishly like they did before. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/us/politics/19russo.html

Let's not forget how she managed to mangle many issues on a radio talk show run by the host who is her supporter. It seems that does not matter to you.

The way I see it, the people of Delaware will make their own decision who will represent them.

Posted by: beeker25 | September 21, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"Indeed she was much more articulate in these videos than Palin was in 2008"

So is my 3 yr old.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | September 21, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Republican John Raese was given (virtually) ZERO chance at all to win the Senate race against popular WV Governor Joe Manchin when he declared his candidacy this summer. Now Raese has just leaped into a lead as Manchin's campaign collapses.
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/09/close-race-in-west-virginia.html

With TEA candidates in Florida and Alaska cruising to easy victories, the tide is turning in the purple states.

Voters are Taxed Enough Already.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | September 21, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 said: "She was at least BORN in the USA, is at least 30 years old, and an inhabitant of the state she seeks to represent".

Oh, look Kids. A BIRTHER!!!

Now you can look, but don't get too close to their padded cage. They are very wild animals that are prone to fits of delusion and psychosis.

Posted by: insider9909 | September 21, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

More Liberal whistling past the grave yard.

This will be the most lopsided election in 50 years and a complete repudiation of Liberalism and Obama.

Just ask the Dems running away from him, Obamacare, Pelosi, etc. in the vain hope of re-election.

Bring on November!!

Posted by: drjcarlucci | September 21, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

KaddafiDelendaEst said, "With TEA candidates in Florida and Alaska cruising to easy victories, the tide is turning in the purple states."

I wouldn't count those chickens yet, eggman!!

Crist and Murkowski are very likely to split the republican votes in Florida and Alaska, and both have a genuine chance to win.

Posted by: insider9909 | September 21, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell has at least the qualifications to be a Senator that Mr. Obama has to be President...what's the big deal?

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | September 21, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Christine O'Donnell's path, at least in the short term, is charmed. With this being the year of an electorate that would nominate a liverwurst sandwich for office — as long as said sandwich couldn't be characterized as a D.C insider — she has double if not triple the chances she'd have had in more rational times. In short, this cookie could win, as the more dirt is dug up, the more she wins the sympathy of an enraged electorate.

Now, if she doesn't win, she has elevated her stature to a national level just by the mere nomination. In an era where you can easily become famous by being famous and little else, she'll solidify her cred with the far right conservatives -- a mostly male crowd seemingly motivated in no small part by whether or not they'd "hit that" -- and position herself as a pol with chops, despite the fact she lost, and despite the fact she probably won't add much of substance to the debate. That, in turn, will get her a gig as a pundit and make her legit with a lot of people.

So you see, even in the losing she'll win. Ask Sarah Palin how that works.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

michiganmaine:

There was actually a reorganization in 2004, due to student protests about the conservative bent to the Hoover Institution. Hoover Fellows are classed as "academic staff" and not covered by academic freedom policies exactly because Fellows are not members of the professoriate.

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/pres-provost/budget/images/04.sec2.pdf

There's a Starbucks on campus too, but that doesn't mean that Stanford owns it. I won't hold my breath for an apology.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

One third of Delaware voters think O'Donnell is qualified to be a US Senator. To those people, a boiled turnip is qualified to be a US Senator as long as the turnip votes the Tea Party agenda.

Posted by: tboyer33 | September 21, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA!!

EVERYONE'S AFTER CHRISTINE AND REPUBLICANS, WHILE LADY GAGA IS OUT CAMPAIGNING FOR HARRY REID(D) AND DEMOCRATS!!

HAHAHAHAHA!! WHO IS WACKO HERE???

Posted by: jjcrocket14 | September 21, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

beeker25:

Of course the voters in Delaware will make the final decision, and I am not the one forgetting anything (I already addressed the "clearly a criminal" allegation above). Now, would you care to answer my question to you:

Does $2 million (and counting) "look desperate" to you?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

tboyer33:

A turnip is neither an inhabitant of the State nor can it "seek" to represent said State.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"I watched a couple of her Youtube videos and she did not come across as extreme, nor did she come across as stupid. Indeed she was much more articulate in these videos than Palin was in 2008.


Posted by: rjpal | September 21, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse "

lol that's not saying much, Sparky.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Now, if you had brought up one of those mutant, lab mice with human brains that evil scientists (and/or WB animators) are trying to create ...

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"HAHAHAHA!!

EVERYONE'S AFTER CHRISTINE AND REPUBLICANS, WHILE LADY GAGA IS OUT CAMPAIGNING FOR HARRY REID(D) AND DEMOCRATS!!

HAHAHAHAHA!! WHO IS WACKO HERE???

Posted by: jjcrocket14 | September 21, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse "

You?

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

rjpal:

It's the same crowd who have demonized Sharron Angle, grandmother of ten! Don't worry about it.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Jake -- you are technically correct about the turnip. However, you fail rhetorical arts 101, especially pathos.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"Does $2 million (and counting) "look desperate" to you?"

Depends if it comes in the form of $5 checks from little old ladies, or in two $1 million installments from the Koch brothers. In the case of the latter, you KNOW more is coming.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Liam-still, I certainly hope you're right, because if so I won't even have to bother leaving home since the democratic nominee will be GUARANTEED to win. Realistically I think there is zero chance that lunatic/ravinglunatic will run on a single ticket, but one can always hope. If it's these two brainless extreme radical un-American twits, the democrats can have an empty podium, and when the moderator says, "gentlemen we don't appear to have a representative for the democratic side" the dems response will be, that is our guy, the podium. A podium could easily beat out palin/odonnell. If that's the choice the podium's got my vote. BREAKING NEWS: RNC says if the dems run a podium against twit/twit, that they will bring out "evidence" that the podium is a muslim of non-American origin.

Posted by: red2million | September 21, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait for this author's next piece: "Obama is toxic and hurting Democrats."

Posted by: dbw1 | September 21, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

illogicbuster please quote your source, because I think you made it up out of thin air. Either that or it was 52% of likely tea party voters. I dont need a poll to tell me that waaaay more people agree with Obama's ideals than palins. then again, since most of the people who vote for republican couldn't vote if they had to pass a five question quiz on where their candidate stands on the issues, I guess it is possible. I had somehow forgotten for a moment that in excess of 90% of those who vote republican have absolutely no idea what views the candidate their voting for holds or supports.

Posted by: red2million | September 21, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

JakedD, can we count on seeing a video of your head exploding if Christine O'Donnell isn't elected?

I imagine a number of people on the forums would pay good money to watch your head explode.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | September 21, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

JakeD is twisting himself in knots trying to defend this horrid woman. Get me some popcorn!

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Did you ever notice how only conservatives are referred to as "polarizing" in mainstream media?

Sarah Palin? Polarizing. Glenn Beck? Polarizing. Christine O'Donnell, Rush Limbaugh, Mike Huckabee...all 'polarizing'.

You will never see Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Barney, Dodd, or any other left-wing extremist called 'polarizing'.

Maybe that's because 89% of donations to political campaigns by mainstream media members goes to Democrats. Or perhaps that's just a coincidence....

Posted by: dbw1 | September 21, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

moto-d:

I'm not here for "pathos" (or even to convince you libs of the error of your ways). The day after Christine O'Donnell won the GOP primary, Rush Limbaugh urged his listeners to each send her $1. For the purposes of my instant hypothetical, assume that 2 million listeners did exactly that.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

dbw1 and JakeD should take a few minutes to huddle and get their talking points straight. As it stands they look awfully buffoonish.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

TwoTermObama:

Didn't you say at 1:07 PM: "Even Jake can't defend this one"? So, make up your mind(s), which one is it, I am defending her or not?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

red2million:

90% of Republicans don't know what vies their candidate holds? Have you ever stood outside a poll on election day and watched the labor leaders pass out sample ballots that are marked with all D's?

Trust me, I worked some campaigns before I went into private business. Conservatives are more well-read than most people who vote Democrat, and most people who vote Democrat only do so because daddy used to have posters of FDR and JFK hanging in the den.

You give me a random pick of conservatives and Democrats, and I'll put money on the randomly-picked conservative being more well-versed in their beliefs (and why they hold them) than the average Democrat voter.

Posted by: dbw1 | September 21, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, I see you are trying to defend her and not doing a very good job of it. Does that answer your question?

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

TwoTermObama:

Any specific points you would like to rebut? Or are you like most left-wingers on here, best-suited to name-call but unable to put forth any type of reasoned point, much less able to argue your way out of a paper bag?

Posted by: dbw1 | September 21, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! No, it does not answer my question and assumes facts not in evidence to boot.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Liberals have to admit that once they put Al Franken in the Senate and Obama in the White House, the bar was set pretty low for what sort of 'experience' is required to hold high office.

So it's pretty funny to listen to them bash O'Donnell now for lack of 'experience'. Perhaps she should take a 10 day trip around the world to match Obama's pre-election "foreign policy" credentials?

Posted by: dbw1 | September 21, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Don't you guys have to put forth some reasonable points for us to rebut first? I'm not going to waste time, for example, rebutting 'points' that Rush told his retarded followers to send her money so they did and she's going to win now.

Posted by: TwoTermObama | September 21, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

If anyone thought the tea party sensation’s self admission that she “dabbled into witchcraft” on an episode of politically incorrect from way back in the late 90s was a hot mess, you’re going to LOVE her foray into matters of science as recently as november of 2007.

here's what she says...

"american scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains."

Don't believe me? Go to my blog and hear the audio for yourself.

http://jammerbirdi.wordpress.com/2010/09/21/christine-odonnell-blinding-us-with-science/

Posted by: jammerbirdi | September 21, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

jammerbirdi:

But that's exactly the point. The bar was set so low with Obama, the least-qualified person to ever be elected President, that Democrats have no room to talk anymore about candidates "experience", lack of intelligence, etc.

Christine O'Donnell could have a sub-100 IQ, and have no prior work experience, and still be more qualified for a seat in the Senate that a lot of what gets nominated by Democrats!

Posted by: dbw1 | September 21, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

jammerbird (which one do you deny is happening?)

1) American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals, or

2) [If the GOP won't stop them] they will come up with horrors like mice with fully functioning human brains?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"The day after Christine O'Donnell won the GOP primary, Rush Limbaugh urged his listeners to each send her $1."

Boy, If I ever needed more evidence of this woman's electoral fallibility, this is it.

As Rush's various calls to arms have previously proven ineffective (note, for one, that Hillary did NOT get the nomination), I'll throw that into the pile with the rest of his dubious impacts on electoral outcomes -- right next to your hypotheses.

No, while the Tea Party is bought and paid for, elections are still not, at least not purely, even with Grandma's fiver and the Koch's billions. There are still personality defects and deficits to overcome, and I doubt O'Donnell could overcome hers with tankers-full of cash.

Still, this is the year for weirdness and the Tea Party now has their Queen. 45 days will tell us the tale.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I choose #2 for my denial, as #1 has taken place. Mrs. Malaprop just got her facts confused on O'Reilly is all -- though even with her intellectual stunting, she knew it had something to do with mice, humans and brains.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

If you really don't know the answer:

http://www.actionbioscience.org/biotech/margawati.html

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Operation CHAOS was not intended to get Hillary the nomination (you are misunderestimating the hit that Obama would have taken via a contested convention vote, maybe even enough to have sent McCain into the lead for the rest of the election ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Christine is at the 50-yard line, she would be the 50th Senator for the GOP, probably. I just love the full-court press against her, every news outlet of the MSN throwing everything they can, whether it sticks or not. There are 33 other Senate races that are getting no press at all so the manic progressives can beat up the GOP candidate in this race.

Only progressive tools believe this crap has relevance, you have genuine goofballs currently in the Senate, let alone the House. Hang in there Christine, there is time to turn it around.

Posted by: pashley1114 | September 21, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

The details are debatable; the result is not: a fat, cigar-smoking fail.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Qualified to be in the US Senate? Have you been paying attention to what goes on there?
Vote for my bill, I'll give you a $100B in grease for you to play with. It's the taxpayers money, who cares?
Let's vote on a serious defense bill. OK , throw on something for gays and illegals and Oh yea, the defense bill is OK I guess, but who reads that stuff.

If she is not going to vote for all the nonsense that Coons certainly would , she is qualified. This is Biden's seat , for God's sake.

Posted by: rfpzzzzz | September 21, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Unless you've been comatose, pashley1114, it's been Karl Rove, O'Reilly and the rest of the GOP establishment beating her up for the most part -- though I'm sure anyone who comes out against a questionable candidate becomes an honorary progressive traitor in your world. The progressives can almost sit this one out it's so easy.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and I "fail[ed]" your rhetorical arts 101 too. How about answering my hypothetical question now:

Assuming that 2 million voters donated to Christine O'Donnell the day after won the GOP primary, does that "look desperate" to you?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

moto-d:

I wasn't aware that Karl, Bill and the rest of the GOP establishment was posting herein. Which one are you?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

If you look closely at pashley's comments, she clearly references the beatings administered by the deadly and ominous "MSM." Nowhere does she mention the posts here. Go back and read. We have time.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Are you claiming that the WASHINGTON POST COMPANY is not part of the lamestream media?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell is the unmasked face of the Republican Party. What the average Republican actually is, but is smart enough to keep under wraps.

Like ink in water O'Donnell will color the rest of the party. Voters will see the little bit of O'Donnell in their Republican candidate when they are making up their minds as to which lever to pull.

Posted by: Deirdre_K | September 21, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

As for your "assumption," why should I put any opinion to it at all as you have no evidence to back it up? My assumption is that only 7 of Rush's listeners sent in their buck. There, it is now as officially valid as yours. Again, fail.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Deirdre_K:

Is that you Peggy Noonan?

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Poll this !!!!!

Posted by: pane1 | September 21, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Safe to assume that the posters here do not work for the Washington Post. So what was your ultimate point again?

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

moto-d:

You are certainly under no obligation to answer any of my questions and are free to go now.

Posted by: JakeD2 | September 21, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Let's see about pashley's villians, quote -- "The manic progressives" "The progressive tools."

I'm sorry, Karl Rove is a "manic progressive" now? Hmmm. Bill O is a "progressive tool" over their at Fox? Who'd have thunk.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

When you can pose legitimate questions, as opposed to convenient assumptions that buttress your arguments, I'll answer. Until then, why would anyone?

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

The standard goob defense of a lousy, unqualified Republican candidate is that the press of the entire free world is involved in a vast, dark, loony and highly improbable conspiracy to make the candidate look bad.

But this time even the Republican controlled press is attacking O'Donnell. The very news organizations that on a daily basis manipulate the goobs for fun, profit and votes - and who the goobs have come to know, love, trust and unquestioningly obey.

So are the wingnuts posting here going to tell us that Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly are now part of the vast, dark, loony and improbable conspiracy?

Posted by: Deirdre_K | September 21, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Easier to kill the messenger than kill the message, Deirdre -- conservatives spent decades inventing the evil MSM, to the point where it's become part of their cultural gospel.

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Toxic are the incumbents who voted for Pelosi's mandatory health care mess.

Toxic is the BP cover up orchestrated from the White House and the BP Boardroom in London. Toxic is the Gulf of Mexico because of Obama Administration waivers to British Petroleum.

Toxic is Lisa P. Jackson of the EPA.

Posted by: alance | September 21, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Donate to Christine O'Donnell's campaign today!

...and waste your money.

Posted by: sr31 | September 21, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

What's the matter greggy, does the good witch scare you? Didn't you watch Bewitched on tv when you were a little pri_k. I'll bet your mommy hugged you to sleep after the show so you wouldn't have nightmares. You're a liberal so let me ask you something and tell me the truth because most liberals are liars. So O'Donnell dabbled in witchcraft when she was young. Does that really bother you? I bet you dabbled in your pants when you were young and I'll bet you still do. What did Barry dabble in voodooism? I'll bet he did and you never said anything about it. What did Bubba dabble in? Well we all know the answer to that. And, you never mentioned anything about it back then. How come Greggy?

Posted by: lori9 | September 21, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I believe O'Donnell is a stalking horse from people who would like to hurtle even more outrageous insults at Obama. It is a typical ploy to by wing nuts to say "you called my candidate something awful and thus it is only fair that I should do the same to yours". It is all a matter of balance, ie let's make sure the average ends up closer to our side. Call O'Donnell a witch? Some nerve when Obama is a freakozoid from Kenya intent on transforming this country into a socialist Muslim enclave.

Posted by: serban1 | September 21, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@ JakeD2 We'll see on Election Day (she's already raised over $2 million since she won the primary ; )
***************************
Yes, JakeD2, it won't be a surprise when Christine O'Donnell uses that money as her personal piggy bank, will it? Maybe she'll buy a townhouse in Georgetown. Just shows that she can pick the pockets of the down-and-out.

Posted by: freedomgirl1 | September 21, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party candidates aren't just extreme, they're extremely nasty (as in mean) people.

Posted by: valerie14 | September 21, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell may win and she may lose, but this attempt to paint her as "toxic" is a joke.

That's what Sargent said about Rand Paul. Hasn't worked. That's what he said about Sharron Angle. Hasn't worked. And that's what he says about every 5 minutes about Sarah Plain. And that REALLY hasn't worked.

As always, Greg Sargent is a tool and nothing more.

Besides, when one door closes (or may close), another one opens, as Republicans are now well positioned to take over Sen. Byrd's WVA Senate seat, something really not thinkable a couple of months ago.

Sargent can prattle off his childish nonsense in his echo chamber all he wants. The shellacking will commence in just a little over a month.

Posted by: etpietro | September 21, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse


WHY complain? Let her do her thing,
let the GOP defender her
let us all see what they will dump on us willingly!

And/or Let the dim witted Tea Party see what their heros are like. It's fine.

(O'Donnel even looks like Palin, and is no less a witchy, dim figure...

(AND let pointy black hats become the TP signature. They'd look no sillier than in their tricorners, in which, incidentally, they try to be MORE PATRIOTIC thanthe rest of us.

Does that not gull decent people all over?

Posted by: whistling | September 21, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Imagine IF Christine O'Donnell was a full-fledged Democratic Wiccan, Sargent and the liberal media would be protecting her !

Sargent would be calling conservative Karl Rove a bigot ! Arguing religious freedom and diversity !!

Imagine how Dems would support her IF she'd once left a drowning girl in her car ? or if she was the privileged wife of a serial womanizer ? or had a rich grandmother like Obama ?

She'd be well not just Senatorial material but Presidential material as well !

Posted by: pvilso24 | September 21, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse


Does anyone think the LACK OF JUDGEMENT

the Palin brat and her Grizzley mother showed in
dancing suggestively
(her abstinance campaign aside)
(even given it was so awful it wasn't sexy)

was stunning?

NO CLASS. How low will the Palins pull the Tea Party? Those conservative, religious,
down home Amerrikans?

Is it funny or frightening we've gone so low?

Posted by: whistling | September 21, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse


Does anyone think the LACK OF JUDGEMENT

the Palin brat and her Grizzley mother showed in
dancing suggestively
(her abstinance campaign aside)
(even given it was so awful it wasn't sexy)

was stunning?

NO CLASS. How low will the Palins pull the Tea Party? Those conservative, religious,
down home Amerrikans?

Is it funny or frightening we've gone so low?

Posted by: whistling | September 21, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse


Stunning, isn't it
what the Tea Partyiers will defend.

WHAT would be too low and freaky for them?

Posted by: whistling | September 21, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Simple: anything that's not Republican (or calls itself "conservative.")

Posted by: moto-d | September 21, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Greg, dude, you need to coordinate your message. Honestly man, you are lost without JournOlist.

Posted by: luca_20009 | September 21, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

To JakeD2

I'll take that Heritage Foundation wager. I'm in Vegas so I'll even give you...hmmm...five points to make it fair.

Posted by: vicwhiskey | September 21, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

The headline for this, at least on the home page, is misleading: "Christine O'Donnell is Hurting the GOP." The real truth of the matter, upon reading the text that follows: "Christine O'Donnell is Hurting the GOP in Delaware." Well duh. Karl Rove told us that on Election Night (as did every other analyst) and he was quite right.

In the rest of the country, she's not on the ballot and she makes those who are look more normal by contrast.

I volunteered -- a lot -- for Creigh Deeds, who I still like very much. His strategy (see if this sounds familiar at all) was to emphasize how out of touch and extreme his Republican candidate really was, rather than to focus on the issues that mattered to voters.

His opponent, on the other hand, would not take the culture war bait, stuck to his talking points and real issues like transportation, state budget, and jobs, and, oh yes, is now governor of Virginia.

O'Donnell hurt the GOP in Delaware. She will have no effect elsewhere. Don't repeat Creigh Deeds's strategic mistake. Democrats are terrible culture warriors because they rightly find the tactic immoral even when they adopt it themselves. Plus, voters aren't in a culture war mood anyway.

Let's stick to being Democrats and focus on real-world issues. Leave the witchcraft, civil war, and nastygrams to the GOP.

Posted by: fairfaxvoter1 | September 21, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Hahahaha!!!

So we have one dizzy nutjob that can't or won't pay her bills but can recite the Conservative Manifesto word for word and she has a shot at being a senator. This is really good in a way. If we can clean up Lindsey Lohan, have her get religon but leave the personal responsibility issue alone and have DeMint feed her all the right wing talking points she will once again have a bright future, this time as a conservative politician. Reminds me of an old joke about the plain young lady who gets one wish by a genie. She wishes for a nice pair of boobs but ends up with O'Donnell and Palin.

Posted by: booradley1 | September 22, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

fairfaxvoter1:

Too little, too late.

Posted by: clawrence12 | September 22, 2010 5:25 AM | Report abuse

Holy Cr*p, JakeD- first time reader (I usually read that liberal rag the NYT) and you are such a hater. Don't you understand that the conservative leaders are just the tools of big business and play you like a chump? They get you roiled up on stupid non-issues (like the ground zero mosque which isn't at ground zero- there are two synogogues and a strip club closer and if I took you to the mosque site you couldn't tell if u were two blocks or two mile from GZero), immigration reform (border crossings are actually DOWN significantly over the last five years and most business leaders [even conservatives] agree that if you tryo to send back the ones who are working here now it will cripple our economy)then after the election they forget about the non-issues and screw everyone by reducing corporate tax and tax on the wealthy. Increasing the tax on the wealthy ISN'T marxism- it's called re-adjusting the income tax brackets and its been done ALOT, and not by Marxists either. Ands as for healthcare reform, I think its un-american (You consv's LOVE to call people that) to let millions of americans go uninsured- while the HMO's and ins co's make unbelievable profits.
Palin is an idiot- she never really accomplished much in Alaska, and has offered NO substantive policy recommendations (besides the 'talking points'). She is good, however, at being divisive and WRONG (death panels?) and quitting her term early to make millions. People who know her find her to be petty, mean and vindictive.
O'Donnell has been heard to say all she really wants is a book deal. She doesn't want to lead, she just wants people to act in accordance with her religious beliefs.
I understand that you get a sense of importance in seeking to reclaim the idea of some america that you have lost, but, really, that never existed. I think you listen to Rush and Glen too much (they are haters too) and you need to at least admit that FOX isn't fair and balanced. Its conservative.
Up here in NH its live free or die, but we don't hate muslims, don;t call people un-american, and don't elect unqualified candidates like Palin and O'Donnell.

Posted by: luvnlife4 | September 24, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

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