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Charlie Crist asked Clinton camp to suggest Meek drop out, source says

Charlie Crist personally called a top adviser to Bill Clinton and asked if the former president would discuss with Kendrick Meek the possibility of dropping out of the Florida Senate race, according to a source close to Clinton.

The revelation adds a bit more detail to a story breaking tonight that's roiling the Florida race. Politico's Ben Smith reported this evening that Clinton tried to persuade Meek to drop out of the race and almost succeeded. Meek has adamantly denied that he ever considered dropping out.

According to a source close to Clinton, the former president's conversations with Meek were directly initiated by Crist. He called top Clinton lawyer Doug Band and asked him if Clinton would make the appeal directly to Meek, the source tells me.

Crist's role in trying to get Clinton to persuade Meek to consider dropping out will add to a sense of Crist's desperation in the final days of a race that appears to be swinging towards Marco Rubio.

By Greg Sargent  | October 28, 2010; 9:54 PM ET
Categories:  2010 elections, Senate Dems, Senate Republicans  
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Just saw Greta's interview with this guy. He looks like he's on drugs. She asked him specific questions regarding who he talked to at the White house, he won't say, he obviously is hiding something. He didn't seem to understand questions, seemed lathargic. This guy is a huge loser.Prime example of who NOT to send to Washington.

Posted by: zippidy1 | October 28, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if that revelation will help Crist too much.

OT but interesting. Would be a good morning round-up poll. :)

US-Generic Ballot: 46% Democrat, 46% Republican (Marist/McClatchy 10/22-25)

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/US101021/McClatchy/McClatchy_Marist%20Poll_National%20Survey_October%2027,%202010.pdf

Posted by: mikefromArlington | October 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

So the democrats want the black candidate to drop out in order to defeat the hispanic candidate....


That makes sense - won't offend anyone, will it?


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Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Kendrick Meek isn't dropping out.

Charlie Crist is a dog. He is a rank opportunist, a behind-the-scenes dealer and a career Republican. He has some moderate stances but he is no Independent.

I hope you this race turns and Meek wins. But if not, he lost with dignity and integrity, unlike Crist the sleezeball Republican failure and rank ego-driven opportunist.

Go Kendrick Meek!

And Greg, I'm liking the evening post. They got you workin' the nighshift?

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 28, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Did Meeks mention if he was offered the same job as Sestak?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | October 28, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

A vote for Rubio is a vote for the GOP to overturn the no drilling law in Florida and have BP drilling here at our doorstep. Vote Crist--he's the best chance we have.

Posted by: Swingstater99 | October 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

There is something deeper going on here - the democrats are in complete disarray - nothing is working and they are beginning to send the wrong messages out.


The problem is clear - the democrats don't feel like they elected Obama - they feel like they elected their coalition of interests into the Presidency - so the whole administration is agenda-driven.


That is in sharp contrast to election a PERSON - someone who can say, "I'm governing for the good of the whole nation" We don't have that. There is a sense that the whole administration is about the agenda.


This idea is counter to any idea of a "uniter" or "bipartisanship" or any of that set of lies of Obama.

The truth is that once the agenda becomes paramount, wide parts of the country are left out -


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Case in point - Obama is down to 35% support of whites - and 90% support of blacks.

What is a person supposed to do - when only 35% of the whites support him? This is an odd coalition.

Think about it for a moment. Take a portion of that 35% and think a portion is the gay community - and hispanics looking for amnesty - and what is left?


How can a person govern the nation with this kind of support?


This is the situation - and this explains some of the loss of ability to find a message.

Obama is desperate to represent only part of the nation - not the whole nation. Hence Obama love to divide the nation at the 250K level.

Obama is not working. The Daily Show interview showed that Obama is just lost on the job. Inexperienced - and unqualified.


Did we hear from Obama what he is going to do on the economy??? No, just a plea for time.

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"he's the best chance we have"

Actually, Meek was the best chance you had. If people had gotten behind Meek early on, instead of waffling between the Republican opportunist and the real Democrat, Crist would be the one dropping out and Meek would be competitive with Rubio. Crist is either an ego-maniac or he's really just a Republican who ran as an Indie to throw the race to the right wing. The guy put a crooked ignoramus, now under indictment, in charge of his party so they both could personally benefit. I don't trust Crist worth a d@mn.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 28, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Did Crist say he would drop out - if it looked like he wouldn't win?


It seems that Crist has no ground operation, and no Governor's candidate to work with, so Crist is in the weaker position.


Crist should drop out and give his support to Rubio.


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Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

This is the 2nd instance where Clinton tried to persuade an African American to drop out of a high profile race. Wow, the Democrats are such racists!

Posted by: hastoglis | October 28, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

The polls are tightening. I think that Dino Rossi is going to pull out the win in Washington State.

Clearly, the country is ready for change.

In West Virginia, Manchin has to run a commercial driving a bullet through the cap-n-trade bill - some support for Obama's policies. With democrats like these, taking positions like these, what does that tell you about Obama's policies?


The problem is - any other President would try to govern all the line of what the people think.


Obama will take the democrats he has - and he won't care if Manchin was elected saying he was against cap and trade - Obama will try to jam his far-left wing program through anyway. It really is shameful. There is no other way to say it but Obama's approach to the American People is disrespectful and shameful.

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Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Let’s look at this, shall we? Charlie Crist is playing right out of the Republican handbook: repeat lies until they become truth. He planted the rumor in the WSJ (his campaign have admitted it) he planted the story about Clinton asking Meek to drop out (we now know that he asked a staffer to ask Clinton to ask him and the conversation between Meek and Clinton never seriously considered dropping out) he has repeatedly used operatives to drop misinformation in minority communities spreading lies.

Meek came out of the primary (something Charlie was afraid to do) winning by 26%. He won against a billionaire that out spent him by almost 5 times. People doubted him until that point. Then we rallied behind the democrat because we knew that he could beat Rubio. Then Crist started saying Meek couldn’t do it, that he needed to drop out. If you repeat this enough, then the uninformed people don’t give it any thought and start repeating it, and ta-da now you have truth.

Crist has been playing dirty politics since day one. He could not stick out a primary and being the career opportunist that he is, he bailed. The sad part is the democrats are too cowardly to stand behind their chosen candidate. We know that Kendrick is the perfect democratic candidate for Florida and if everyone would stop saying he cannot do it, then he can.

Let’s also consider the polling methods. Who do they poll? Do they only poll landlines? Yes. Do they under-poll minorities, knowing that they will constitute a bigger percentage of voters? Yes. By doing both of these things they are under-polling Meek. Ask yourself this, were any of the polls correct in the primary for Meek? No, because they have never polled him correctly. Now is no different. He is not truly as low in the polls as it appears.

If for no other reason, no one should vote for Charlie because he cannot be trusted. He cannot run a fair campaign. Why should we think he would behave any differently in the Senate?

Posted by: WhatsLove | October 29, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Let’s look at this, shall we? Charlie Crist is playing right out of the Republican handbook: repeat lies until they become truth. He planted the rumor in the WSJ (his campaign have admitted it) he planted the story about Clinton asking Meek to drop out (we now know that he asked a staffer to ask Clinton to ask him and the conversation between Meek and Clinton never seriously considered dropping out) he has repeatedly used operatives to drop misinformation in minority communities spreading lies.

Meek came out of the primary (something Charlie was afraid to do) winning by 26%. He won against a billionaire that out spent him by almost 5 times. People doubted him until that point. Then we rallied behind the democrat because we knew that he could beat Rubio. Then Crist started saying Meek couldn’t do it, that he needed to drop out. If you repeat this enough, then the uninformed people don’t give it any thought and start repeating it, and ta-da now you have truth.

Crist has been playing dirty politics since day one. He could not stick out a primary and being the career opportunist that he is, he bailed. The sad part is the democrats are too cowardly to stand behind their chosen candidate. We know that Kendrick is the perfect democratic candidate for Florida and if everyone would stop saying he cannot do it, then he can.

Let’s also consider the polling methods. Who do they poll? Do they only poll landlines? Yes. Do they under-poll minorities, knowing that they will constitute a bigger percentage of voters? Yes. By doing both of these things they are under-polling Meek. Ask yourself this, were any of the polls correct in the primary for Meek? No, because they have never polled him correctly. Now is no different. He is not truly as low in the polls as it appears.

If for no other reason, no one should vote for Charlie because he cannot be trusted. He cannot run a fair campaign. Why should we think he would behave any differently in the Senate?

Posted by: WhatsLove | October 29, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

If anyone thinks that Meek withdrawing from the campaign during the last week of the election will “throw” it to Crist, he has a head full of marbles. And Billy Jeff expects black voters to turn on a dime and vote for a sleazy Greek slimeball who should be running a restaurant or some sort of honest job…! I for one can’t believe Clinton is that stupid, sleazy and contemptible and a total BS artist, yes, but not THAT stupid. Rubio has almost 50% already, and if Meek had any ideas about doing this, he should have done it a month or two ago.

If there were any doubt left about Crist, this dancing around trying to make it look as though Obama & Clinton both want him rather than Meek to stop Rubio, a sure-fire Veep candidate in 2012, then we all in Florida know that he’s a good-time Charlie and an absolute liar. My next-door neighbor in Boca was a four-time Republican State Rep and thinks Crist is a sperm-burper both metaphorically and in reality.

Posted by: djman1141 | October 29, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

The "dude" can't handle the job. He looked weak on the Daily Show - he appeared like he did not have a direction for the country.

The whole interview became a plea for more time - whining that he "could" do it, but he hasn't yet.


Don't say that, dude - it's not cool to talk like Bush - and support your people when they are facing a tough job, dude.


What is your plan for the economy

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Seriously - I could have written a better set of talking points for Obama than we heard on the Daily Show.

It is just getting ridiculous.

The whole thing was a mistake, nationalizing the election like this. The Republicans don't have to do anything anymore - they can just sit there and watch Obama win the election for them.


Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 29, 2010 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Democrats are so racist. Why force a Brother out, instead of the gay-independent guy who doesn't have chance?

Posted by: pgr88 | October 29, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

LeafOf/Rain/Bomber cannot decide what name to use on PL and cannot stay on thread.

How much you bein' paid?


Posted by: ChuckinDenton | October 29, 2010 2:20 AM | Report abuse

What else would you expect from "Big Dog"? Oy.
Gimme a true Democrat anyday to that rat.

Now, if it comes from the White House, we have a problem, Houston.

Was there a deeper "deal" for Crist? You can bet your as* there was. Hey, we need Democrats in Congress. Is this how we get them?

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | October 29, 2010 2:32 AM | Report abuse

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/october_2010/65_favor_getting_rid_of_entire_congress_and_starting_over
65% Favor Getting Rid of Entire Congress and Starting Over

Let’s face it: Most Americans don’t have much use for either of the major political parties and think it would be better to dump the entire Congress on Election Day.

Only 20% would opt to keep the entire Congress instead. Fifteen percent (15%) aren’t sure.
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This little gem of news should serve as a strong rejection to those of you who falsely think that the American people's anger is directed at any one political party. It’s clearly not.

The Tea party is at the forefront of this anger and this anger is rising. It’s an ominous sign of things to come for those that have their sinister hands on the levers of power.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | October 29, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

@HostileKnowledge:

"sinister hands on the levers of power"

Paranoid much?

Too bad McCarthy is cold in his grave, I'm sure you coulda got him cheap...

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | October 29, 2010 5:41 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

I guess I'll be the latest to say that this place has really gone down hill lately. Most complaints by regulars have been about STRF or whatever his current name is, but he was not much of a problem to me in comparison to the raft of new commenters (mainly of the leftward persuasion) who contribute not much of anything but cheap taunts and meaningless bickering. The carryover of feuds from the Fix has largely ruined your place at this point imo. It's like one of those fight scenes where the drunken combatants stagger out of one saloon and fight their way into the next one. Reading these recent threads that are dominated by Fix fights redux and other folks they seem to attract is beyond boring and pointless. If this is what the Fix looked like, I can see why they basically shut it down, if I correctly understand what they did.

I try not to complain about things like this, but there just isn't much point hanging out here recently. There probably isn't much you can do about it, so I'm just letting you know my perspective, if you are watching. I've had my share of criticism of many of the old regular lefties, but most of them look like Socrates compared to the new wave of garbage tossers who dominate much of the time. Consequently, I probably won't be spending much time here given the current state of affairs. I'll miss Scott, Troll, tao, skip, lots of others, even on the left, but I see them more and more absent anyway, so it wouldn't appear I am alone.

Okay, vanity post over. Carry on.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 29, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

quarterback, any suggestions as to how to fix the problem?

Posted by: sargegreg | October 29, 2010 5:49 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

No, not really. : (

I'm not a big proponent of strict moderation, banning, etc. And I probably woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, but these were my thoughts the past few days.

I'll stick it out for a while and see what happens, and chime in if I think of any ideas.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 29, 2010 6:18 AM | Report abuse

Greg:

I've just e-mailed you my thoughts on a somewhat unorthodox, although I think effective, way of dealing with the problem.

Posted by: ScottC3 | October 29, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Greg:

I understand that they are just frustrated by their electoral prospects, but it's all of the lashing out and personal attacks leveled by the new people, 12BarBlues, srw3, etc. as well as regulars Ethan2010, Liam-Still, etc. that de-value this blog. Why aren't they being banned too?

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 29, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse

So Obama is fearmongering to constituencies that he has completely sold out, like gays, saying that if we don't vote Democratic it will be much worse, but he endoreses a former Repub in RI instead of the Dem, and tries to get the dem to drop out in florida? If he won't listen to his own advice, I sure as hell won't.

Posted by: gaylib | October 29, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Greg

Quarterback's assessment is correct.

That is why long ago, I learned to state my opinion and basically ignore all the leftist who engage in all sorts of bad behavior.

The Fix was actually worse than this little crew - I can think of three or four other posters who were even worse than this little band.


Greg

Let me be clear - 12BarBlues is harassing me and stalking me. She has come over to this blog to harass me practically everyday. She has recruited her friends from the Fix to come to this blog and the results are clear. Their intentions are hostile.

I have had to endure the hostility from this crew. I can see some people are making the distinction between old regulars and the other regulars, but the sniping and the hostile behavior is the same.

So, I just state my opinions on the topics of the day and I try to stay out of the fighting.

It is true, this blog has become a Shanty Town of Refugees from Chris Cillizza.

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One possible solution is to re-open the Fix and get the people to go back over there - but with moderation which can stop the hostility and the sniping.

The other possible solution is to wait out the election - and see what happens after. I have not been too comfortable with the Washington Post allowing an "anything goes" atmosphere in 2008, and then all of a sudden this year, there is all sorts of enforcement actions which are difficult to know what is happening (and comply with.)


Again, I have to emphasize, the Washington Post has allowed a good number of posters to be under sniper fire for a long, long time - and allowed an unbelievable amount of hostile comments to be posted. To start to single out people who are just attempting to live in this atmosphere is just not right.


The Fix, in addition to those quarterback has been seeing, had posters like broadwayjoe, noacoler, ddawd, drinl and drivl - all of which engaged in daily attacks and made things extremely difficult for those who wanted to stick to the issues.

The least one can say about me is at least I attempt to stick to the issues - and I try to stay away from the fighting until I see a pressing need to respond.

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 29, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

@clawrence: If you're putting 12BarBlues and Liam-Still in with Ethan2010, STRF . . . well, it just goes to prove that such analysis are crazy subjective. 12Bar only goes a little overboard regarding STRF, but is as valuable a contributor to the overall conversation as anybody here. Liam-still is one of the few posters who was urging everybody to take it down a notch during the head-stomper discussions.

I dunno. I don't think these discussions are particularly productive. If we stopped talking about who we wanted banned and how, it would probably clean up the threads a lot right there. ;)

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 29, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Scott, I hope it's a good one, orthodox or not. How about side by side blogs, one by invitation only? LOL.

qb, maybe it's just the weather making us nostalgic huh? Unfortunately, I don't think there's much Greg or anyone can do.

I had a thought the other day though regarding the food fight atmosphere we're experiencing. Remember during the most contentious debates during HCR, and we had all those prolific posters with names like troops, joelieberman, etc. etc. Once the vote was taken they disappeared. Maybe once the election is over the plumline will revert to a more civil atmosphere again?

Although if you two are going to go "all gloating all the time", I'll seriously be disappointed LOL.

Posted by: lmsinca | October 29, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD! That's the one I left out. God bless DDAWD!

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 29, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

All, Morning Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/the_morning_plum_123.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 29, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Greg

This blog posting by a gay Democrat in Chicago has been making the rounds.

There is absolutely no doubt that the bullying tactics used by the Obama people simply do not sit well in the American political system.


The Obama people have made a point to bully their opponents. If the Obama people do not like what someone else has been saying, the charges of RACISM have come out in force.

This tactic has been repeated around the country - in started in the primaries in 2008 against the Hillary people - and it culminated in the confrontation on Capitol Hill last March.

There is a widespread belief that these Obama tactics are out-of-bounds - that somehow they have crossed the lines of what has previously been acceptable in the political debates in this country.


These Obama tactics have been employed all over the internet.

These Obama attack tactics have also been employed against any woman, black or hispanic who expresses Conservative views.

There is a sense among the Obama people that they want to dominate these groups - and any person who is a woman, black or hispanic who rises to a leadership role in those groups should be relentlessly attacked and smeared.


To say that these smears are wrong is just not the whole story - it is a sense that people in those groups do NOT have the Freedom of thought - they are "owned" by the democrats by virtue of their gender or ethnic status.

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I am pointing all this out because the attitude of the Obama people has been out-of-line. They are dragging down the discussions and the atmosphere in these blogs - and in the general political discussions around the country.

Calling someone a racist stops the conversation. People do not want to engage those people again.


This is why so many people firmly believe that Obama and his people have to go - there is no reasonable discussions with these people.

In addition, the idea of being post-racial is actually being TRAMPLED by Obama and his crew.


Look at the tactics, when the leftists do not want to engage in the conversation, the attacks start. The bullying starts. There is the attitude "I'm going to drive you away." "I'm going to ingore you." "I'm going to organize everyone on the blog to ignore you and be hostile to you."

None of this contributes toward a dialogue, and it certainly does not contribute toward bipartisanship.

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 29, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Kevin, it is not "subjective" to point out blatant personal attacks. And when did I say that I wanted anyone banned? Our gracious host is asking for suggestions on how to "fix" the problem, though, on an otherwise dead thread.

Don't worry, the Morning Plum should be up shortly.

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 29, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

qb, this one's for you, with video at the link.

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Hundreds of billions of dollars were spent, and millions of words were argued. And now a little ice cream shop in Santa Cruz, California has made it clear why the stimulus program was worth it.

The facts say the stimulus worked, as in the recent Congressional Budget Office report showing millions of jobs saved or created plus solid increases in GDP.

But more powerful than facts are stories, like the one told in this video, by the owners of the new Penny Ice Creamery in Santa Cruz:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/spencer-critchley/ice-cream-tells-the-story_b_775712.html

Posted by: lmsinca | October 29, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

As we've been saying on the left:

"A Bloomberg National Poll finds that by a two-to-one margin, likely voters in the midterm elections think taxes have gone up, the economy has shrunk, and the billions lent to banks as part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program won't be recovered.

The facts: The Obama administration cut taxes for middle-class Americans, has overseen an economy that has grown for the past four quarters and expects to make a profit on the hundreds of billions of dollars spent to rescue Wall Street banks.

Said pollster Ann Selzer: "The public view of the economy is at odds with the facts, and the blame has to go to the Democrats. It does not matter much if you make change, if you do not communicate change."

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 29, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

As we've been saying on the left:

"A Bloomberg National Poll finds that by a two-to-one margin, likely voters in the midterm elections think taxes have gone up, the economy has shrunk, and the billions lent to banks as part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program won't be recovered.

The facts: The Obama administration cut taxes for middle-class Americans, has overseen an economy that has grown for the past four quarters and expects to make a profit on the hundreds of billions of dollars spent to rescue Wall Street banks.

Said pollster Ann Selzer: "The public view of the economy is at odds with the facts, and the blame has to go to the Democrats. It does not matter much if you make change, if you do not communicate change."

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 29, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

lms:

"Although if you two are going to go "all gloating all the time", I'll seriously be disappointed LOL."

Not much chance of that. About 2 months after the '08 election, following the wipeout of the R's, the local Republican party in my town sponsored a dinner with John Sunnunu as the speaker. Obviously there was a lot of depression and recriminations about what went wrong, along with discussions about what needed to be done to recover. Near the end of the Q&A session, someone asked Sununnu what issues he thought the R's should focus on in order to make gains in the next election. Instead of pontificating on this or that Republican initiative, he said simply that 2 years was an eternity in politics, and that no one could possibly know what would resonate with voters in the 2010 election. He pointed out several examples of how things that people were talking about in early '08 ended up having almost no impact on the actual election, while things that no one was talking about even in the summer of '08 had a huge impact on the election. What I took away from that, and what ought to be clear from history, is that predictions of either the demise or the established dominance of either party are bound to make one look foolish.

The Dems are probably going to take a shellacking in November. But if that happens, you won't see me thumping my chest about "the people" finally and definitively rejecting the left. "The people" are fickle indeed.

Posted by: ScottC3 | October 29, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

The governor doesn't have his priorities in order when he goes around complaining about the reality show Jersey Shore and wants to set out to get it off the air because those on the show do not represent NJ cause they are not from there--some are some are not. The point of the show is the shore where young people gather which attracts those from other states besides Jersey as all beach area's do.

Posted by: mac7 | October 29, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Scott

The proverbial see-saw. I am not remotely looking forward to seeing the Republicans take over the House, and Boehner is waaaaay down on my list of possible Speakers, but it will be interesting to see how far to the right they try to take us.

I guess my greatest fear is that the recovery will just take that much longer and people out here in middle America are pretty much at the end of their ropes already.

I don't see much of a plan coming from the right. Austerity, cutting taxes and reduced spending on safety net programs will only make things worse IMO.

If that's what America wants, who am I to complain though. I'm sure we'll find lots of things to argue about next year if the we survive the PlumLine going forward.

Posted by: lmsinca | October 29, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

lms,

Thanks for both of those. I suspect you are partly right about pre-election build up of noise. Which is unfortunate since it should be the most fertile and interesting time to discuss or argue. Most of us will take shots at each other now and then, even get miffed, etc. But at least there is a point somewhere, most of the time. Just isn't too much of that lately.

Re the ice cream story, I will try to look at the video later; can't right now. Of course I greet the news of a new ice creamery with cheer. Let a thousand ice cream startups blossom! But you know I can't pass up a good stimulus shot: what, you're telling me we spent billions and we got an ice creamery? Talk about laboring to bring forth a mouse!

I will look at the video later, though. I'm in a firm meeting today. Among the many announcements discussed at the early morning session was that our health care costs will be 20% higher next year. Thought that might be of interest to you, since we go hammer and tong over hcr. Our managing partner is a huge Dem, so I'm sure he was not eager to inform us about that.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 29, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

qb

A couple of things; I read somewhere this week that the rising costs of insurance premiums are linked directly to the rising costs of health care not the new legislation. The new parts of legislation that have actually kicked in only account for 1% to 2% of the rise in premiums.

I know you don't believe there were any cost saving measures in the bill and one of these days I'll highlight the few that there are, but of course they're more long term than immediate.

You also probably know I wanted more but the environment just seems impossible right now to pass anything really viable re cost savings. The insurance, pharma, medical and hospital industries are fighting tooth and nail to preserve the status quo.

Our premiums went up about 18% but I was able to bring the cost back down to the same as last year, minus $2, by switching to a local access provider. Luckily we live in an area that made this possible.

Our uninsured daughter is wending her way through the CA pre-existing conditions application process and so we're hopeful she'll have coverage soon. It's expensive as well, and we'll have to subsidize her, but it's better than the alternative.

Also, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that the stimulus dollars are also hard at work here in CA. We have 4 of 7 new solar electric plants beginning construction soon and they're relocating the desert tortoises. :)

Posted by: lmsinca | October 29, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

qb commenting on "cheap taunts" and the "quality of this blog" is rich.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | October 29, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

mac7, so THAT was the point of the show?

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 29, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"qb commenting on "cheap taunts" and the "quality of this blog" is rich."

Thanks for the feedback; I truly value it.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 29, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Charlie Crist is what is wrong with are goverment Repub or dem ,ind People like this who will do anything for power MUST NEVER BE VOTED FOR vote for Kendrick Meek or Marco Rubio not a man who will sell out what he belives in for power if the dem vote him he will turn on you if it helps him just like he did to the gop the man is the stuff under slime

Posted by: MRED7 | October 29, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Crist seriously needs a 12-step program to deal with his addiction to power. What a d-bag! Just because a candidate has a letter next to his name, D or R or whatever, be careful who you support. Crist is nuts.

Posted by: jkingo | October 30, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Traditionally whites admonish blacks to vote for the party nominee instead of the black independent candidate. Now that the black IS the party nominee, whites admonish blacks to support the white independent candidate.

Meek knew before he ever announced that this was the likely outcome.

Posted by: blasmaic | October 31, 2010 5:48 AM | Report abuse


Traditionally whites admonish blacks to vote for the party nominee instead of the black independent candidate. Now that the black IS the party nominee, whites admonish blacks to support the white independent candidate instead of the black party nominee.

Meek knew before he ever announced that this was the likely outcome.

Posted by: blasmaic | October 31, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse

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