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Dems to air ad of Kentucky stomping incident -- but only after 10 p.m.

The Kentucky Democratic Party is putting the stomping incident on the air -- in Rand Paul's backyard.

Kentucky Dems will air a brutal new ad with violent footage of the stomping of MoveOn's Lauren Valle, but the spot will only air after 10 p.m. in order to avoid scaring kids, the party confirms to me:

Matt Erwin, a spokesperson for the Kentucky Dems, tells me that the party has decided to air the spot, but after an internal discussion they decided against running it during the day, because "it's scary."

Erwin confirms that the party has purchased airtime to run the spot in Lexington, where the melee took place, and in a puckish twist, in Bowling Green, where Rand Paul lives and practices medicine.

In other news about the stomp, conservatives are circulating new video of the incident that seems to show the victim, Lauren Valle, approaching Paul's car and trying to stick a sign in his window before she was wrestled to the ground and stomped on.

Is this is at odds with her claim to Keith Olbermann (and to me) that she was blockaded and targeted by Paul supporters before doing anything to provoke an attack? By my reading, it's unclear. You can't tell from the new video that the supporters hadn't identified her before she approached the car. And it's also unclear whether her action was all that provocative or threatening to begin with, though I suppose it could have been perceived that way.

And even if you alllow that she rushed Paul's car, the wrestling and stomping is obviously vicious and violent and an absurdly disproportionate response in any case.


UPDATE, 2:47 p.m.: In reference to the ad's claim about a "Rand Paul STOMP," I should have pointed out that Paul has clearly and unequivocally condemned the incident.

By Greg Sargent  | October 28, 2010; 2:27 PM ET
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LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 28, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

The stomping was wrong, but tying it to Rand Paul who was only a victim of the MoveOn employee shoving an inflexible sign into his face through his car window before the crowd grabbed her, and calling it a 'puckish twist' for them to air that to his neighbors and patients, is disgusting. I expect it to backfire spectacularly against the KY Dems.

See what she did to get the crowd to swarm her to begin with, here: http://www.whas11.com/community/blogs/political-blog/MoveOn-activist-shoved-sign-in-Pauls-face-before-the-Stomp--105986578.html

Posted by: sailingaway1 | October 28, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Quote from a Chicago Democrat who opposes Obama's tactics:

Do you want to be in a party that calls people racists for stepping out of line and voicing opposition to the socialist lurch of the current administration?

Do you condone voter fraud and the shameless, undemocratic tactics employed by Democrats?

Do you wish to associate with the likes of ACORN, the SEIU, the Black Panthers, and all the other thugs, goons, and degenerates the Obama campaign and White House employ as the DNC’s muscle on the ground?

It is crystal clear that being a patriotic American who loves this country is intellectually incompatible with being a Democrat. If you love America and want it to prosper, the Democrat Party is at absolute odds with everything we need for a thriving, successful economy.

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

This should put her over the top with the Christian Family Values voters.

"I Had a One-Night Stand With Christine O'Donnell"

http://gawker.com/5674353/

"Three years ago this week, an intoxicated Christine O'Donnell showed up at the apartment of a 25-year-old Philadelphian and ended up spending the night in his bed. Here's his story—and photos—of his escapade with the would-be Delaware senator."

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Greg, Tim Profitt himself admitted to recognizing Lauren Valle prior to the assault in his statements to the media.

Posted by: CincyJen | October 28, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

They should air it in the AM during Jerry Springer and Maury. Rand Paul's "security" must get it's training from those shows.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | October 28, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

There's a picture of the guy who assaulted that woman standing with his arm around Rand Paul. I believe it was at some fundraiser or something.

They should have ended the ad by taking a still frame of the guy in the video, and swiping to the picture of him and Rand arm in arm.

I also don't know why they chose to use repeating footage so much, as opposed to using some of the different camera angles. This would have made it better...from a filmmaking sense.

Those changes/additions would have made this ad even more brutal. Though, as it stands...if that gets serious airplay, that's a rather intense ad.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | October 28, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Do they really think this will be effective? Or are they just trying anything at this point?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/ky/kentucky_senate_paul_vs_conway-1148.html

The spread is anywhere from 5-13 points in favor of Paul and Conway can't get above 43%. I just don't see how this changes the race in any meaningful way.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | October 28, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

CincyJen, got link to that?

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

If the situation was reversed the GOP would air the ad during the dinner hour.

Posted by: filmnoia | October 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul should just by pass all those meddling voters, and just self certify himself as a US Senator.

After all, that is how he became a certified ophthalmologist.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Christine immediately came up with an idea. She pointed to a cardboard box in the kitchen—the kind that 12-packs of Coca-Cola come in—and told him to cut a hole in the middle and put it on top of his head. We weren't sure what she was suggesting.

"You can go as a cokehead!" she said, bursting into laughter.

http://gawker.com/5674353/

Ummmmmm...

Cue Joke's hysterical laughter:

LOL!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 28, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Paging petite conservative female reporter, Emily Miller? Report to GOP-HQ please. http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2010/10/petite-conserva.html

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

@Greg

In your update, you note that Paul has condemned the incident. I'm glad you updated to include that.

I was wondering if you could look back at Paul's statement, and Conway's for that matter, and see if either of them actually took the step of saying that the man should be arrested and prosecuted?

I'm just curious...

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | October 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Democrats catch Republicans in Generic Registered voters poll.

So it now is all about getting out the vote.


http://maristpoll.marist.edu/1028-turnout-key-for-midterm-elections/

"According to this McClatchy-Marist Poll, 47% of registered voters nationwide report they are more likely to vote for a Democrat in their district while 41% say they are more likely to support a Republican. Six percent do not plan to vote for either party’s candidate, and 6% are undecided.

When looking at likely voters nationally, neither party has the competitive edge. Among this group of voters, 46% say they are more likely to vote for a Democrat while 46% report they are more likely to support a Republican candidate. Four percent will not vote for either party’s candidate, and the same proportion — 4% — are undecided."

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Paging coffee scalded conservative Iraq War veteran in Ohio? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPmxWLXnAB4

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Paging SEIU beating victim, Ken Gladney? http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/caught-on-tape-racist-naacp-leader-says-kenneth-gladney-not-black-enough-to-protect-hes-an-uncle-tom-video/

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"And even if you alllow that she rushed Paul's car, the wrestling and stomping is obviously vicious and violent and an absurdly disproportionate response in any case."

Not so, Greg. She could have been armed, making disproportionicity (real word?) a mathematical impossibility. Duh. Seriously though, she was probably the only one there not armed to the hilt, so kudos to them for resisting their natural instict to blow her head off.

Posted by: cao091402 | October 28, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The first annual Salon Baity Awards for Excellence in the Field of Race-baiting:

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/10/28/race_baiting_campaign_ads_of_year/index.html
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 28, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Now, cao would have us believe that Ms. Valle is lucky she wasn't justifiably shot by Paul supporters. I guess that shows that cao believes the Second Amendment trumps the First Amendment, every time.

Words fail me.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

FLASHBACK RNC 2008: Remember when spitting, rock throwing and chemical spraying were “the highest form of patriotism”?

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/02/rnc-protest-update-spitting-rock-throwing-poison-spraying-and-cub-scout-harassing

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone imagine Rand Paul ralliers fantasizing about Obama’s severed head?

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2008/10/festival-of-obama/

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine if Rand Paul ralliers hung an Obama effigy from a noose?

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/27/can-you-imagine-if-an-obama-effigy-were-hung-from-a-noose/

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

SolarEnergyseems to agree with Judson Phillips, prominent Tea Partier:

Judson Phillips: You folks in the left do far worse. Patriotism is not something that cannot be measured. It can be. And you folks on the left, as a general rule are not patriotic. You do not love this country. You are embarrassed by us.
I hate to tell you this, but those of us in fly over country are the real americans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2010/05/05/DI2010050502168.html


I'm getting really tired of people telling me I'm not a "real American".

Posted by: wiccan | October 28, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

@Liam-still: I hope the media has the decency to leave that particular Christine O'Donnell story alone. All that story does is make her personal life seem embarrassingly pathetic. It doesn't even show her as hypocritical on her abstinence advocacy; so there's nothing that makes it arguably newsworthy.

Posted by: QuiteAlarmed | October 28, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

wiccan

We all know that Wiccans date back to the 1600s Massachusetts.


So what are you talking about?

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I thought I had seen it all, but this takes the cake: The guy who was caught on video stomping the woman from MoveOn.org now wants an apology from her.

Wow.

Posted by: ajsmithva | October 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s Leftist “progressives” spent the last decade on CNN committing acts of criminal mayhem during their molotov throwing, kristalnaght-style, anti-Semitic gutter riots (masquerading as “peace” protests) in support of Islamo-supremacism to achieve their hate-America political agenda.
http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame

Yet Democrats have the temerity to climb up on their hind legs and howl about grandpa tripping over a Move-On goon who assaulted a Senatorial candidate?

This woman should testify at the 2011 parole hearing for Sirhan Sirhan.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi, I'm not really sure what world you've been living in, but its a scary place. Thank god it only exists in your head...

Posted by: holyhandgrenaid | October 28, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

It exposes her, and her promoter, Sarah Palin, as a couple of hypocrites. Compare their private sexual behavior, to their public scolding of people who use birth control or masturbate. O'Do stripped naked, and got into bed with the guy.

Palin was pregnant when she got married, and her underage daughter got pregnant, while Palin was lecturing teens about practicing sexual abstinence only.

When the likes of O'Donnell and Palin stop lecturing us to conduct ourselves in ways that they do not adhere to, then I will give them a pass.

Until that time comes, which I doubt ever will, those hypocrites have to be exposed. They are dangerous sociopaths, who are giving terrible advise to teen age girls, living in these times, when corporations use sex, to sell every thing they have to offer.

My wife told me that she recently watched the TV reality show, where Bristol Palin is competing; and she was introduced as; Bristol Palin: Teen Activist.

A real Mama Grizzly would not have let Levi Johnson get within a mile of one of her Cubs's, but in the Palins' world; Levi did them a big favor by turning their underage daughter into a Teen Activist Celebrity.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"kristalnaght-style, anti-Semitic gutter riots (masquerading as “peace” protests)"

You are truly a disgusting pos.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 28, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi is a demented regenerate, trying to justify assaulting a woman because others have been assaulted (so he says) by those on the left. That's like a murderer saying his crime is justified because other people have committed murder too. Ignorant right wing cretin.

Posted by: raqualung | October 28, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

What I'm reading on this thread is the reason that Paul's supporter feels justified stomping on this woman.

Conservatives feel justified in their violence. They are threatened by protesters, who in their view deserve assaults, or even "having their heads blown off".

It's just as simple as that.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi is a demented regenerate, trying to justify assaulting a woman because others have been assaulted (so he says) by those on the left. That's like a murderer saying his crime is justified because other people have committed murder too. Ignorant right wing cretin.

Posted by: raqualung | October 28, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi is a demented Neanderthal, trying to justify assaulting a woman because others have been assaulted (so he says) by those on the left. That's like a murderer saying his crime is justified because other people have committed murder too. Ignorant right wing cretin.

Posted by: raqualung | October 28, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Gusy and Gals,
I'm pretty sure that cao was joking about the whole shooting thing. I read that post to be making fun of the fact that the Paul supporters who were likely armed were some how threatened by this woman holding a sign.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | October 28, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"And even if you alllow that she rushed Paul's car, the wrestling and stomping is obviously vicious and violent and an absurdly disproportionate response in any case."

Lets just check your logic. President Obama is in the car and the Secret Service did the rest. Still "absurdly disproportionate?"

One jerk did indeed get out of line. The audio shows the others calling for police and trying to stop him (at least verbally).

The only other thing out of line was her (in disguise no less) rushing the car.

Posted by: Over-n-Out | October 28, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Greg, of note is the foot on the head. This is a poor means if subduing someone -- think how easy, if painful, it would have been for the woman to yank her head out from underneath without someone holding her down for it. This move was not one meant to restrain; it was used to dominate and humiliate.

Posted by: ShorinBJ | October 28, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Gusy and Gals,
I'm pretty sure that cao was joking about the whole shooting thing. I read that post to be making fun of the fact that the Paul supporters who were likely armed were some how threatened by this woman holding a sign.
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Maybe cao was joking.

But there are a lot of posters on this thread, and other related threads, who are not joking. They honestly seem to believe that the violence against this particular woman was justified because this twerpie 23 year old woman, carrying a sign, was so scary that it justifies any amount of violence to STOP HER.

If the responses on this blog are representative of the nation at large, we better watch out. One could get shot just for having a lawn sign for the "wrong" candidate.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

wiccan

"We all know that Wiccans date back to the 1600s Massachusetts.


So what are you talking about?"

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 3:18 PM


What are you talking about? Wicca is about 60-70 years old.

"Developing in England in the first half of the twentieth century, Wicca was popularised in the 1950s and early 1960s by a Wiccan High Priest named Gerald Gardner, who at the time called it the "witch cult" and "witchcraft", and its adherents "the Wica". From the 1960s onward the name of the religion was normalised to "Wicca".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca

Posted by: wiccan | October 28, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives feel justified in their violence. They are threatened by protesters, who in their view deserve assaults, or even "having their heads blown off".

It's just as simple as that.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 3:33 PM
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Meanwhile, they have no problems shouting down other speakers at Townhalls, or threatening Democratic politicians.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/

It's all hypocrisy, all the time, from this country's right wing.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 28, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

If Leftist-fascists here were consistent with their movements progression, then they'd continue their orchestrated campaigns and follow the White House marching orders and "punch back twice as hard." The EVIDENCE of their serial street thuggery campaigns are cited at length above. Don't try to deny the evidence.

And don't try to pretend that woman jumping through the window of the candidate isn't criminal assault.

Just let this be a lesson to any other Sirhan-Sirhan street pantomimes: Kentucky voters don't appreciate your Senatorial candidate assaults, masquerading as free expression.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to repost this to the current thread - from the earlier Daily Show topic:


One has to give Stewart credit for not throwing softball questions.

It is telling that Stewart wanted to ask Obama uncomfortable questions. Obama was given extra time to respond - far more than other guests are given.

The audience did not get what they were expecting - which was a combination of satire and fawning.

Stewart did not engage in a hate-fest satire of the Republicans.

Instead, Stewart tried to actually examine Obama's job performance, which is rare. The audience did not see Obama joking around. The audience saw a defensive Obama, trying to defend the wide gap between his campaign and his performance.


If Obama was under the impression that this appearance would lead to a ramping-up of the enthusiasm gap among young voters, that clearly did not happen.

Instead, Obama got a series of questions about himself - and to be honest the answers were not that compelling. Obama's answers certainly did not excite anyone.

The Presidency is not a place for on-the-job training. It is a place for an experience, qualified person, ready to handle whatever comes their way - and ready to take responsibility for leading.

On that measure, Obama failed miserably to convince anyone. On that measure Obama proved his critics right.

On that measure, Obama confirmed he really should not have been elected in the first place.

.

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, they have no problems shouting down other speakers at Townhalls, or threatening Democratic politicians.
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When anger boils over, the angry person always feels justified. They feel justified to say anything they feel like saying, they feel justified striking others, they feel justified using weapons. They claim the person struck incited them to violence. And they demand apologies from those they strike.

Sound familiar to any other common form of domestic assault?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

New Poll: "Most Want Obama Fired In 2012"
http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2010/10/27/poll-most-want-obama-fired-in-2012

"...48 percent say Bush was a better president than Obama has been."

[delicious]

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Democratic Scum! America, do you want these people TELLING YOU HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE? VOTE REPUBLICAN! GET YOUR LIFE BACK! SEND THE SOCIALISTS PACKING!

Posted by: georges2 | October 28, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow - still the Democrats have nothing to run on so now they throw this one out. No wonder the Dems will get slaughtered on November 2nd 2010.

Posted by: Realist201 | October 28, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I see Sybil is still here. Didn't Greg say that she had been banned?

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Paul supporter paying for attack ads on Conway because Conway is prosecuting sexual abuse in supporter's nursing home!
Paul supporters don’t like women nor grannies.

>>>Millionaire Targets Kentucky Democrat Who Is Prosecuting Alleged Abuse in His Nursing Home
Terry Forcht Is Banker For American Crossroads, Rove Group Spending Millions To Beat Jack Conway

In the bitter U.S. Senate race in Kentucky, a local millionaire has helped launch a barrage of ads attacking the Democratic candidate – a candidate who, as the state’s attorney general, is prosecuting the businessman’s nursing home for allegedly covering up sexual abuse, records show.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/rove-ally-terry-forcht-targets-jack-conway/story?id=11974168&page=2

Posted by: angie12106 | October 28, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

It is amusing to watch the liberals here squirm as the past behavior of the American left is called to mind.

I predicted this quite a while ago. After watching the left become increasingly unhinged in its hatred of Bush I was certain that their behavior had basically destroyed whatever barriers to decency were left to us.

Now, since the left cannot excuse the things that Khaddfi rightly points out, they go to liberal plan B: personal attacks.

The facts are plain. the anti Bush demonstrations held by the American left became so destructive that an entirely new organization arose spontaneously in response: The Gathering of Eagles. This group had as its mission the protection of national monuments during a planned lefty protest march in DC.

I don't recall any such response to the many tea party rallies held across America and in DC. No one that I know of in the teaparty movement has publically threatened to deface any national monuments the way the left threatened to deface war memorials during their protests.

so sure, go ahead and level personal attacks against the guy. All that proves is that his point is correct. In your turn you did whatever you pleased. Death threats against Bush? A daily routine.

I am convinced that the level of violence will rise. At a neighborhood party last week I witnessed two union organizers, one my neighbor and friend, plan a "martyrdom" operation designed to generate bad press for a local republican candidate. They promised to provoke violence and get themselves arrested to insure that an incident made the evening news. they are both paid by their union for this type of activity.

Their plan failed because the candidate's campaign offices were well prepared for their appearance.

these folks are more than willing to use violence to achieve their political goals. The left has relied on disruption and civil disobedience for years. These actions destroy the sense of civility in our society.

so spare me the smarmy pseudo righteous indignation. None of you had any problems with the bad behavior of code pink. Now you want to cop a holier than thou. I hardly think so.

Americans remember your behavior well.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 28, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Another Teabagger arrested for assaulting a young female protestor!!

>>>A 72-year-old man was arrested for allegedly assaulting a 23-year-old activist protesting Dino Rossi's Republican campaign for Senate in Washington state yesterday, according to local reports.

The incident occured outside GOP headquarters in Walla Walla County where the demonstrator, Christie Stordeur, was "one of five protesters standing about 40 feet from the entrance of the office," according to the Tri-City Herald.

Stordeur and the other protesters "were wearing bags over their heads and holding a sign that looked like a check." That's when Victor Phillips, according to a Sheriff's deputy on scene, walked over to Stordeur to "lift her bag off her head." When Stordeur "lifted her arm in defense," Phillips hit it "with 'force.'"

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/washington-man-arrested-for-assaulting-anti-rossi-protester.php

Posted by: angie12106 | October 28, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

raqualung is a stuttering Stanley.

(You do know "regenerate" means "restored to a better, higher, or more worthy state" don't you?)

You should stick with Rahm Emmanuelle talking points. The White House approved(tm) slander is "f*ing retard."

Stay classy, fascists.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

so spare me the smarmy pseudo righteous indignation. None of you had any problems with the bad behavior of code pink. Now you want to cop a holier than thou. I hardly think so.

Americans remember your behavior well.
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I get your message, skip. You feel justified.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

B R I L L A N T!

Posted by: bobby20 | October 28, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Liam what were you up to at 25? Just wondering.

Posted by: thebink | October 28, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Now, since the left cannot excuse the things that Khaddfi rightly points out
....
Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 28, 2010 4:00 PM
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Nonsense. We're ignoring his spamming.

P.S. Gathering of Eagles? That was a complete joke.

"I don't recall any such response to the many tea party rallies held across America and in DC."

So you justify conservative paranoia and fear by saying you're paranoid and afraid. Nifty.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 28, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Apologies if someone has already posted this:

"Washington Man Arrested For Allegedly Assaulting Anti-Rossi Protester"


A 72-year-old man was arrested two weeks ago for allegedly assaulting a 23-year-old activist protesting Dino Rossi's Republican campaign for Senate in Washington state, according to local reports.

The incident occurred outside GOP headquarters in Walla Walla County where the demonstrator, Christie Stordeur, was "one of five protesters standing about 40 feet from the entrance of the office," according to the Tri-City Herald.

Stordeur and the other protesters "were wearing bags over their heads and holding a sign that looked like a check." That's when Victor Phillips, according to a Sheriff's deputy on scene, walked over to Stordeur to "lift her bag off her head." When Stordeur "lifted her arm in defense," Phillips hit it "with 'force.'"

The Herald reports that the deputy on scene "immediately stepped between the two and arrested Phillips on a charge of investigation of assault."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/washington-man-arrested-for-assaulting-anti-rossi-protester.php?ref=fpb

Posted by: suekzoo1 | October 28, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

How do you know how I feel pal? My feelings are my business. I'm simply pointing out the demagoguery of the left.

Clearly you have no valid response to that. Hence yet another personal attack, this time aimed at me.

thank you oh so much for proving my point.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 28, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

B R I L L A N T!

Posted by: bobby20 | October 28, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Christine was 38 years old when she sought out the guy, she had only met for five minutes, months before. The guy was 25. Christine decided to stalk the guy, months after she had encountered him for five minutes on a non personal level.

This is the sort of sociopaths Sarah Palin keeps endorsing.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

This whole incident looks an awful lot like the fascist tactics that Hitler used in the 1930s to attack anyone who opposed his Nazi regime. Do you suppose Rand Paul is getting fitted for jackboots today? It looks like he's already supplied his "stormtroopers" with jackboots so they can visciously stomp on anyone who dares to criticise the Tea (Nazi?) Party. Welcome to fascist America, compliments of the GOP.

Posted by: bobdog3 | October 28, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

So you justify conservative paranoia and fear by saying you're paranoid and afraid. Nifty.
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One can boil down the justifications of violence to just this: you're paranoid and afraid.

Can you imagine that as a defense at trial: well, judge, I was just minding my own bidness when this young thug girl carrying a sign just made me REAL MAD and REAL SCARED.

So then, thinking of Bobby Kennedy and all, because you know I just LUVED Bobby, I just wrestled her to the ground. Then, I thought GROUND--that's it! So I ground my foot into her head. Makes sense, right? I'm innocent, right? Make her apologize to me!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Liam,

The "ban" on "LeafofLife" lasted just over three hours, by my reckoning, before the sad creature returned as "SolarEnergy" (a play on a prior name, "RayofSunshine").

Proves my point: don't bother with banning. He is free to post, and we are equally free not to read or respond to what he posts.

By the way, how interesting that Christine O'Donnell wouldn't lie to save Anne Frank because "God always provides a way out," but she lied in order to get into a guy's apartment. Maybe God always provides a way out, but you have to lie if you want a way in?

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 28, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Paging Mr. Tabor... report to Rand Paul HQ.

Leftist Thug brutally assaults NC Tea Party couple
http://www.therightscoop.com/thug-beats-up-on-gop-protesters-in-nc

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Joe Miller is yet another sociopath that Sarah Palin has gone all in for.

Do you see the pattern folks. Palin identifies with, and enables sociopaths for the US Senate.

Miller is also sinking like a rock.


A new Hays Research poll in Alaska shows Scott McAdams (D) surging ahead of Joe Miller (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 29% to 23%, allowing the unnamed write-in candidate -- most of which are presumably for Sen. Lisa Murkowski -- to lead the contest with 34%, with undecided voters still at 13%.

"With a 68% disapproval rating, and Miller's trend line looking like the flight of the Hindenberg even before the latest scandal hit the news, the chances of him actually pulling it off and winning this election are slim."

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I just watched the spot again (for laughs) about only airing after 10 p.m. "in order to avoid scaring kids" it's probably because the Kentucky Democratic Party doesn't have enough money to air it before 10 p.m.

For anyone who is wondering what legal standard will apply:

503.070 Protection of another.

(1) The use of physical force by a defendant upon another person is justifiable when:

(a) The defendant believes that such force is necessary to protect a third person
against the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by the other
person; and

(b) Under the circumstances as the defendant believes them to be, the person
whom he seeks to protect would himself have been justified under KRS
503.050 and 503.060 in using such protection.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 28, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

If you knew anything about the Third Reich, Ethan, you would be absolutely ‘creeped out by the similarities between Obama cultists and the proto-Gestapo Sturmabteilung.

The SA was headed by Ernst Rohm and had a significant element of militant homosexuals both as members and in its leadership advocating for a messianic socialist leader.

And yes, some of us are creeped out by the similarities among today's Leftists.

“Burn their f—ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers.”

http://gayconservative.org/2008/11/07/burn-their-churches-to-the-ground/

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/19/the-insane-rage-of-the-same-sex-marriage-mob/

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I took a look at the video put up by Rand Paul’s supporters and it makes them look even worse. The original video of the Move On protester being gang-assaulted by Paul’s goons was bad enough, but the video of the chanting Paultards is eerily reminiscent of the Nuremberg Rallies. Change their blue shirts to brown and it wouldn’t take much for the chants of “Rand Paul, Rand Paul, Rand Paul” to sound like “Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil.”

Posted by: codexjust1 | October 28, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Great post Skip!

You managed to claim to be able to predict the future, drape yourself and the conservative movement in the American Flag, and provide an unsupportable/undisputable anecdote that just happens to prove your point perfectly and you did it all without condemning what happened to Ms. Valle as she exercised her First Amendment Rights and only days after condemning the left for try to end free speech. That's an effective post!

Posted by: ashotinthedark | October 28, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul said that the assault on the woman by some of his supporters was wrong. Since he is the one, that Jake The Snake keeps offering up, as the person who needed to be defended, there goes just another one of Jake The Snake's absurd excuses.

Rand Paul made no excuses for the Thugs, but Jake The Snake will.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line with the Stewart interview

Obama is not ready to lead the nation.

Obama should have had a plan - OK, times are tough, but this is what we are going to do: one, two three. - "We are ready to charge forward and solve these problems"


But we didn't get that from Obama.


The reason is clear: Obama doesn't know what to do. The economy is there and it is a mess. But Obama "didn't come to Washington to work on the economy" - Obama came to do big things.

As Obama tries to excite who he thinks is his base - the youth who can not get jobs because of him - there is a disconnect.


Obama still has his hidden agenda as his priority. Even Katrian Van Heuvel today on MSNBC is trying to do the calculation: How can the progressives package this to fool the center into voting for the democrats - all so the progressive can jam through their agenda again.


There is a clear perception on the left that they can not convince the center to support their policies - so there is a search for the right deception to get people to vote their way - without any indication at all that what the center actually wants matters.

Obama is sitting there - defending his economic policies, but he never really tried to concentrate on the economy, did he??

It was all about "pivoting" over to the leftwing agenda, right? "Let's push this out so we can move onto leftwing stuff"


I don't think Obama excited anyone by being on the Daily Show. If anything, people got a dose of reality about what Obama is really about.

Obama looked strangely small sitting next to Stewart. He looked like he really didn't belong there. He looked like some mid-level executive who wanted to be promoted to the top, but he just didn't measure up. And not only that, Obama wasn't even saying the right things to be able to move up.

Obama's words indicated that he just didn't measure up to the position - that he really couldn't handle the position. Obama seemed to be saying, "give me more time, I'll figure it out" Yea, but the country needs someone who knows what to do, and how to lead.

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I still predict that no KENTUCKY jury convicts Mr. Profitt (I really LOVE that name ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Jake, why don't you jump onto your 28' yacht and just swish on down there to Kentucky and defend this stomper guy. He NEEDS you, and only you. You really do see the whole situation through his eyes.

Wait a minute--don't take this as a question you have to answer. Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s Leftist “progressives” spent the last decade on CNN committing acts of criminal mayhem during their molotov throwing, kristalnaght-style, anti-Semitic gutter riots (masquerading as “peace” protests) in support of Islamo-supremacism to achieve their hate-America political agenda.
http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame

Yet codexjust1 has the temerity to climb up on their hind legs and howl about chanting a candidate's name?

Enter the Hall of Shame and take a good long look in the mirror, Obama cultists.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure with JakeD2 as his lawyer, Mr. Profitt would have nothing to worry about.

:)

~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 28, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues is STALKING again.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 28, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Fun Fact: Westboro Baptist Church Pastor Phelps has run for public office five (5) times -- as a Democrat!

Own the fascist hate-mongers, Obama cultists.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

It's the case of The Sore Back Defense:

My back was sore, so I had to stomp on her head. Had my foot also been sore, I would have shot her, and if I did not have my gun handy, I would have driven over her. After all I did not want to distress my acky breaky back.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 28, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Kaddafi,

What's your schtick, man? We got you. You think this was justified assault and probably more. You've got your reasons--having to do with Bobby Kennedy and the peace movement in the 60's. We got ya.

So, now what? Planning to drop any nuclear bombs? Or is that just a lil too extreme?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Man convicted of threatening Sen. Murray was inspired by Beck

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010280036

According to publicly available documents filed in federal court, a cousin of Charles Wilson -- a Washington man sentenced to prison last week for repeatedly threatening to kill Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) after she voted in favor of health care reform legislation -- said Wilson's "fears were grown and fostered by [Glenn] Beck's persuasive personality."

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 28, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

in response to this:
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Nonsense. We're ignoring his spamming.

P.S. Gathering of Eagles? That was a complete joke.

"I don't recall any such response to the many tea party rallies held across America and in DC."

So you justify conservative paranoia and fear by saying you're paranoid and afraid. Nifty.

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Once again, a dodge instead of a valid response.

all you've got is a snide comment. That's not debate. It is, to use your word: nonsense.

and yet another liberal projection. Do me a favor pal and post your bona fides as an on line psychotherapist.

Just too funny.

bottom line: the left damaged civility in America with their decade long temper tantrum about Bush.

Now that the chickens have come home to roost (thanks to the right reverend wright for bring that phrase back into vogue) the left demands what they refused to provide in their turn.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Hippies still smell.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure with JakeD2 as his lawyer, Mr. Profitt would have nothing to worry about.
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Scopes monkey trial all over again.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Had my foot also been sore, I would have shot her,
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Hereinafter, called the Gout Defense.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

All, my take on the coming war among Dems over health care reform:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/the_coming_war_among_dems_over.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 28, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Once again, a dodge instead of a valid response.
...
Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 28, 2010 4:36 PM
====================

There was no substance to Khaddafi's claims about violent anti-war protesters/ There was no substance to rightwing claims that memorials needed to be defended from anti-war protesters.

Making things up and demanding a "valid response" is getting to be a tiresome habit on your part. (E.g. your claims about voting fraud, 'supported' by other wingnuts asserting voter fraud.)
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 28, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse


Jake

When is Obama going to Bridgeport?

Strange place for him to campaign actually

He should be going to Hartford

Posted by: SolarEnergy | October 28, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't get that this is a debate. This is nothing more than a bunch of howler monkeys defending the right of some guy to stomp this woman, because she scared him and made him mad.

What's to debate? That's what he did. That's why he did it. The howler monkeys agree with him. They have their reasons, having to do with hippies.

What's left to say?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Okay -- so what it going to be? After all the CRA stuff, Aqua-man, and now the Stomp, what's going to happen?

I'm betting, (bragging rights I guess) Rand Paul +5

Posted by: NoVAHockey | October 28, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Well, I ahm, I hate to admit it, I had to work a little but then I came back to see my screen spattered with another example of Godwin's Law!

Internet arguments about Nazi analogies are a waste of electrons, to say nothing of the zeros and ones. I am grieving the loss of the key strokes all that bandwidth...for nothing.

C'mon people, you are better than this!

Posted by: shrink2 | October 28, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, you know Jake. He likes it rough.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | October 28, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, the Democrat candidate cannot run against Rand Paul on the issues. So the Democrats are trying to make a guilt by association argument. They are essentially saying that the wrong actions of this Rand Paul supporter represent everything that Rand Paul stands for. That's a weak and desperate argument.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | October 28, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

in response to this:
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One can boil down the justifications of violence to just this: you're paranoid and afraid.

Can you imagine that as a defense at trial: well, judge, I was just minding my own bidness when this young thug girl carrying a sign just made me REAL MAD and REAL SCARED.

So then, thinking of Bobby Kennedy and all, because you know I just LUVED Bobby, I just wrestled her to the ground. Then, I thought GROUND--that's it! So I ground my foot into her head. Makes sense, right? I'm innocent, right? Make her apologize to me!

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Where oh where did I justify violence pal? Simple answer: no where.

Since I didn't say what you really, really wanted me to say, you just put words in my mouth.

it is easy to win "debates" that way. You make up what your opponent says and then deliver crushing retorts. Tell me, does such mental gymnastics satisfy you somehow?

It is just that I never, ever justified anything. I merely pointed out that since the left cannot defend its own bad behavior it attacks those who offer reminders of it.

If you can find a "justification" in that then you are delusional.

I find that frequently among liberals. Ashotinthedark is absolutely certain that I issued a threat about political violence yesterday. I never offered such but he needed to believe that I did so badly that he simply put the words in my mouth. Just like you did.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 28, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Show me a video of a female Tealiban protester being stomped by a Democrat.

You can't.

The Tealiban is a group of racist, bigoted, puppets masquerading for their corporate masters.

And here is one of those 'patriots' SIGNING her AUTOGRAPH to the American Flag.

Hasn't Palin heard of the Flag Code?

Apparently not.

Pathetic.

Posted by: markcheslold | October 28, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, the Democrat candidate cannot run against Rand Paul on the issues. So the Democrats are trying to make a guilt by association argument. They are essentially saying that the wrong actions of this Rand Paul supporter represent everything that Rand Paul stands for. That's a weak and desperate argument.

Posted by: liberalsareblind
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This message is brought to you by the "Obama Pals Around with Terrorists" Party.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | October 28, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Providing healthcare to people is not tyranny, stomping on a womans head and handcuffing journalists is.

See how easy it is to throw around the tyranny tag?

Posted by: Chops2 | October 28, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Republicans would do exactly the same thing and more.

But the ridiculous ideas of segregation being OK and abolishing Social Security and the Education Department should be enough to trample the radical Paul.

Posted by: markcheslold | October 28, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

That "American History X" curb stomp was wrong! That jerk has no morals. I can't believe some of you are justifying that stomp to her head! She had a sign in front of Paul's car while he was in it, that's not threatening and does not deserve a stomp on the head

Posted by: LaSing78 | October 28, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Ashotinthedark is absolutely certain that I issued a threat about political violence yesterday. I never offered such but he needed to believe that I did so badly that he simply put the words in my mouth. Just like you did.

Posted by: skipsailing28
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I interpreted a comment of yours to be a threat of violence. I never claimed to be absolutely certain. As I recall it was something to the effect of what happens when the government no longer have the consent of the governed.

I don't think it's a particularly unreasonable interpretation. Isn't armed revolution what occurred when the British lost the consent of the colonists?

Posted by: ashotinthedark | October 28, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

That "American History X" curb stomp was wrong! That jerk has no morals. I can't believe some of you are justifying that stomp to her head! She had a sign in front of Paul's car while he was in it, that's not threatening and does not deserve a stomp on the head

Posted by: LaSing78 | October 28, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, rats, seems like I'm always late. Just finished working, but I have to chime in about the ad (that is the subject, isn't it?).

I think it's a waste of the Dem's money. I'm a Democrat (not from Kentucky), and hope Rand Paul gets figuratively (or metaphorically or whatever the correct word is) stomped in the election (I know--not likely). Still, I blame the stomper and his cohorts for the ugly incident, and I think Paul's supporters will do the same and vote for him anyway. I honestly don't think Paul encourages or agrees with this sort of behavior. Maybe a few votes will change, but IMO, things will remain pretty much the same. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm feeling pessimistic today.

Posted by: carolanne528 | October 28, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

To call this the "Ron Paul stomp" of course is a lie, because Dr. Paul was in the car and his foot nowhere near the this person. For you to perpetuate the lie by not stating clearly and unequivocally in your BLOG that it was a Ron Paul worker who "stomped" is dishonest of you. You also should state that Dr. Paul did not just "condemn" the incident, he fired the person responsible.

Now to call this a stomp is also an exaggeration. The Ron Paul organizer restrained the woman with his foot and pushed down. I believe a stomp requiers more force: to elevate the foot and come down hard.

So what is that three lies in your column / blog? More partisan tripe from the Washington Post completely undisciplined in your "reporting."

Posted by: krush01 | October 28, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Democrat desperation has driven them to new depths of depravity.

it seems that a group of NBC "jounalists" coupled with a private investigator created a scandalous website claiming that Republican candidate Ed Martin was involved in child abuse scandals with the Catholic church.

the Carnahan campaign denies involvement with the group but the cannot deny that they paid for the "research" via a firm named "veritas".

I viewed the website and I saw absolutely no facts that prove anything about Mr Martin's alleged involvement in any wrong doing.

Thoughtless braggarts here will claim that I am some how justifying wrong doing elsewhere and, as usual, they would be wrong.

the website is a disgrace but I doubt that many liberals here will condemn it. I doubt that the Carnahan campaign will condemn it. This is the depths to which the Democrats have descended in their grasping clutching depraved addiction to power over the American people.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 28, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

You also should state that Dr. Paul did not just "condemn" the incident, he fired the person responsible.

Now to call this a stomp is also an exaggeration. The Ron Paul organizer restrained the woman with his foot and pushed down. I believe a stomp requiers more force: to elevate the foot and come down hard.
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Wonder why Dr. Paul fired the foot "stomper" guy, now that we know he didn't actually "stomp" on her. How about "stamp"? Or does this not qualify as "stamping" either. Better call up the Lexington police department, and let them know your opinion.

Bwahahaha!!!!!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 28, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

the website is a disgrace but I doubt that many liberals here will condemn it.
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I'll condemn it and Liam's harping on O'Donnell's one night stand.

Now maybe you can condemn the assault of Ms. Valle. If you are unfamiliar with the incident I would direct you to the top of your screen.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | October 28, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I'd say that's a pretty effective ad, and good reason for candidates to cool their inflammatory language and screen campaign workers for loose nuts.
If Paul fails to control his followers now, what's he going to be like when he gets some real power?
The angry words of politicians do come to life in the deeds of followers.
A prime example involved former Alabama Gov. George C. Wallace and the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church, which killed four black girls. A week before the bombing, Wallace told a reporter that "we need a few first-class funerals" to stop integration. After the bombing Wallace condemned the violence. Later in life Wallace apologized for his racism.
How sad.

Posted by: dparks2 | October 28, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

sailingaway1 is posting propaganda

"The stomping was wrong, but tying it to Rand Paul who was only a victim of the MoveOn employee shoving an inflexible sign into his face through his car window before the crowd grabbed her, and calling it a 'puckish twist' for them to air that to his neighbors and patients, is disgusting. I expect it to backfire spectacularly against the KY Dems.

See what she did to get the crowd to swarm her to begin with, here: http://www.whas11.com/community/blogs/political-blog/MoveOn-activist-shoved-sign-in-Pauls-face-before-the-Stomp--105986578.html"

Posted by: sailingaway1 | October 28, 2010 2:40 PM

The girl who was stomped had short dark hair. The girl in your video has shoulder length blond hair. The only similarity is a red hooded jacket.

Posted by: glenmayne | October 28, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20101023/NEWS01/310230027/LMPD+probes+detectives+who+tipped+off+prosecutor+under+investigation

It's a shame that Jack Conway has resorted to dirty politics & lies in this race against Rand Paul. It's sickening that the media ran with the lies but will never mention Jack's involvement in a Narcotics Investigation with his brother Matthew Conway. They even admit to Obstructing Justice!

LMPD probes detectives who tipped off prosecutor under investigation - Courier Journal

Posted by: DemocratRepublicanrobot | October 28, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe some of you are justifying that "American History X" curb stomp! Putting a sign in front of Rand Paul's car is not threatening. That jerk has no morals, I'm sure he stomps his wife on the head too. Inbred paranoid barbarian!

Posted by: LaSing78 | October 28, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

this from the state that brought us jim bunning and mitch mcconnell. good old fashioned southern hospitality, republican style speaks volumes...

Posted by: northernexposure1 | October 28, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I watched both videos. While it's true she approached his car, there were lots of other people approaching the car. It was a RALLY. And she didn't "shove a sign into his face". I doubt it even broke the plane of the window frame to "enter the car".

At least it's heartening that one tea partier who was there said that the head stomping was "over the line". I guess Decent America should be grateful for small favors of civility from these Hitler-youth-inspired lunatics.

Posted by: B2O2 | October 28, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I don't care what hour of the day it is, Rand Paul is just scary. I don't think you can get more extreme than him, although Joe Miller gives him a run for his 20th-century-repealing money.

Posted by: B2O2 | October 28, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

move-on.org hench-woman...

dems at a new low, if that is possible...

Posted by: UpAndOver | October 28, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Paul Rand isn't nearly as ignorant or squirrelly as his supporters and not all his supporters are total fruit bats.
Ain't that something.
The problem is, that a good many of Captain Paul's ideas are nonsense and that simply attracts cranks and screwballs by the thousands. Grass roots is all fine and good, but one should check the quality of the roots.

Rand, and the tea party, in general, pander to a paranoid segment of the population that tend to be less educated and less aware of the world. There's a word for it, the word is Xenophobic. Big word, look it up, everyone else understands - except the educated clueless - y'all are on your own.

Posted by: right_as_rain | October 29, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

I love this ad. Its about time Democrats start playing dirty like the Republicans. Remember death panels to kill grandma. Remember Obama was born in Kenya, Remember the stimulas was a failure and majority of Republicans took the money. They should make worst ads than that. How about ads of all of the crazy Tea Pary Candidates. Better than that make a video of all the lies they have told about just everything this past 18 months.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 29, 2010 2:00 AM | Report abuse

This sort of behavior is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE regardless of who is doing it to whom.

We need to make some examples. We should make an example of these people, we should make an example of the NBPP. We need to send a message to ALL the extremists and nuts in this country, left AND right, that we will NOT tolerate violence, intimidation or nonsense in our politics.

In this case, I don't think there is ANY question that laws were broken and that the savages that "stomped" that woman should be whipped like the dogs they are. In the NBPP case, it is a little muckier simply because it is not obvious that what they were doing rises LEGALLY to the level of "intimidation" according to how the laws are currently written. We may not thus be able to punish the NBPP as they deserve but we should ALL take this as a cue to rewrite the revelant laws to make it very clear WHERE exactly the line between legitimate protest and illegal harrassment and intimidation lies and that crossing that line will NOT be tolerated.

If NOTHING ELSE, we should pass a law banning the carrying and open display of ANY weapons within, say, 300 yards of a polling place. There is NO good or legitimate reason for people to be carrying truncheons or black-jacks or brass-knuckles or firearms to the ballots. As I said, it doesn't seem that it was against the law when the NBPP did it so we may not be able to prosecute them THIS time but we can AT LEAST take this as a warning and rewrite the laws so that next time there will be NO question as to what is intimidation and what is not.

When considering this sort of political violence and intimidation tactics, we should forget about WHO is doing it and just concentrate on the behavior. In and of themselves, the NBPP, the Rand "stompers" and similar groups and criminals are not a serious threat to our Republic. If, however, ALL the various fringe groups and radical see people escaping any serious consequences for this sort of behavior and ALL descend on the polls, this could result in chaos, violence and the practical disenfranchisement of other citizens who are scared to or prevented from voting.

The BEHAVIOR strikes at the very root of our system of government, the BEHAVIOR cannot be tolerated and the BEHAVIOR hurts ALL decent citizens of ALL political stripes. Please put aside the partisan bickering and the "two wrongs make a right" idiocy and concentrate on the actual anti-social and anti-democratic BEHAVIOR of the groups and people in question!

THEY MUST BE SMASHED!

Posted by: andrew23boyle | October 29, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse


When I was fifty-two
It was a very weird year
It was a very weird year of Tea party girls
And twisted extremes
With their right wing dreams
They didn't have a clue
When I was fifty-two

But now the days are short
We're in the autumn of the years
And now I think of this place
As Wonder Bread turned green from mold
To rocks from gold
We were gripped by fear
It was a very weird year....

Tom Degan, age 52

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Posted by: tomdeganfrontiernetnet | October 29, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

stomp doesn't seem to be the right word for it. the guy's foot looks like it slipped from on her shoulder. a stomp typically has a distinct up motion followed by a down motion and there was no up motion here.

that said, the guy shouldn't have put his foot on her in the first place, but i wouldn't call that a 'stomp.' At the same time she shouldn't have approached the car. this should be a non issue in the election but the media won't let it be that way

Posted by: smmckenzie | October 29, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Message from Democrats to independent voters: you're too stupid to realize this incident had nothing to do with Rand Paul or his policies. If we play this ad enough you weak-minded fools will fall for it.

Conway approved this ad and for that he is a desperate and despicable liar who will do anything to get elected. Is that who you really want representing you?

Posted by: dontfallforit | October 31, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

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