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* The number of GOP Senate candidates who have made controversial statements opposing the minimum wage is now up to four and counting.

* Mori Dinauer, on Alaska Tea Partyer Joe Miller's claim that the 10th amendment renders Federal minimum wage law unconstitutional:

If you take the view that the Tenth Amendment invalidates legislation you don't like, then you're saying that Congress pretty much can't make any laws.

* Eric Cantor gets a glowing Wall Street Journal write-up as "the man who would be the next House majority leader," and Cantor offers this prediction, should the GOP take back the House:

"Things could get pretty messy."

* Wrestling exec Linda McMahon kicks Richard Blumenthal in the crotch with a brutal new ad pillorying Blumenthal's Vietnam falsehoods. I get that The New York Times originally broke the Vietnam story, but does this ad really merit its current billing at the top of the front page of nytimes.com?

* And: The Dem firm Public Policy Polling finds Blumenthal leading by 12 points, 53-41.

* One Democrat who isn't running from Obama/Dem accomplishments: Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia, a GOP target, offered this assessment:

"I think this belongs in the pantheon of strong, activist reform Congresses like the 73rd under FDR and the 89th under LBJ."

Surely Connolly is burnt toast after this.

* Katrina Vanden Heuvel points out that conservaDems who are flirting with entitlement reform for deficit reduction are seriously undercutting a potentially powerful Dem message: That Republicans want to do away with Social Security.

* As Atrios notes, cable really does play regularly on TVs everywhere throughout Congressional offices, and the world would be a better place if this weren't the case.

* With chatter growing about Robert Gibbs as the next DNC chair, Ari Berman says it's time to bring back Howard Dean.

* Hot Tea scalds Republican: A leading Tea Party activist is endorsing the Democrat in a key North Carolina House race, because GOP candidate Ilario Pantano was charged with murder after he shot two Iraqis in the back. (He was not tried but was tagged for "serious errors" in judgment.)

* Interesting priorities: Fox News personalities side with Carl Paladino, the New York GOP gubernatorial candidate, in that confrontation in which he threatened to "take out" a New York Post (owned by News Corp.) reporter.

* And Christine O'Donnell has managed to secure access to classified info that no one else has detailing China's "carefully thought out and strategic plan" to take over America.

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  | October 4, 2010; 6:11 PM ET
Categories:  2010 elections, Happy Hour Roundup, House Dems, House GOPers, Senate Republicans, Tea Party  
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Of course, Alaska Tea Partyer Joe Miller does not take the view that the Tenth Amendment invalidates legislation he "doesn't like" but rather:

"That is not within the scope of the powers that are given to the federal government."

Miller wants to scale back the size and power of the federal government to the powers specifically listed in the Constitution.

"What I'd recommend that you do is go to the Constitution and look at the enumerated powers because what we have is something that we call the 10th amendment that says, look if it's not there if it's not enumerated, then it's delegated to the states," Miller said. "Everything that's not there is reserved to the states and the people."

McMahon will beat Blumenthal here in Connecticut!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Does China's "carefully thought out and strategic plan" to take over America include the MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, Barack Obama?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh, this is perfect. Check out the idiocy of the Sharron Angle campaign.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/reid-ad-was-false----because-it-quoted-angle.php?ref=fpblg

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

From Walter Mondale on CNN:

Obama's teleprompters are 'idiot boards,' keep him from connecting with audiences

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Mondale-Obamas-teleprompters-are-idiot-boards-keep-him-from-connecting-with-audiences-104306374.html

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

jake apparently you missed today's latest video of Christine where she says sure I am a witch. Perhaps she got on her broom and communicated with aliens about China.

as for telepromptors all POTUS including Reagan used the, so what is that news to you?

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Gerry will be fine. Fairfax has gone blue.

Senatorial debate tonight!!! I predict that McMahon's failed attempt at a sleeper hold backfires. Can you smell what the Blume is cooking???

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 4, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

@ leichtman1 - I'm not a witch, I'm your wife!

Guess the movie.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 4, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

The Gay Issues

These interest groups have to realize that Obama is filled with deceptions and lies - and Obama is going to do what he wants.
If you want to support Obama and the democrats this year, you can count on getting more of the same from Obama - more blaming someone else, and Obama will not listen to your concerns.

It is true that the democrats do not take care of their own groups.

Take blacks for instance - I don't think ANYONE in the country if Obama launched a major program to help the inner cities - Has Obama done that? No.

Obama has done very little for the gays. The one thing that Obama did do - extend benefits from the federal - may be ILLEGAL because only Congress can appropriate money. Obama appeared to appropriate money all by himself.


We heard much rumblings during the campaign about the tensions between Obama and the hispanic community - so few people ever expected Obama to really help the hispanics anyway.


The democrats are really upset about this: Obama is inept.

Obama is inexperienced and unqualified - if they wanted to get something done they should have gotten someone who knew what they were doing.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Rassmussen has begun his inevitable switch from pushing the GOP narrative to predicting election results:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_10/025975.php

Just like clockwork, a month to go.

P.S. "With chatter growing about Robert Gibbs as the next DNC chair, Ari Berman says it's time to bring back Howard Dean."

Yes to Dean. No to "Shut and vote for us, losers" Gibbs.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The rainforest is a Gay issue.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 4, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE can we ignore the thread-bombing trolls??!!

I'm posting this early in this thread in hopes people will reply to Greg's stuff above and add some new links, talk about debates going on between candidates, and so on.

Plus, polls? Lots of stuff going on there.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Lo siento, BGinCHI. I should have resisted that one.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 4, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

First post debate, post maid-gate poll in California:

Brown + 5 per Rasmussen 4 pt moe

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The real problem is the democratic party is so concerned with affirmative action candidates - the democrats cast aside considerations of experience and qualifications.

It is a question of judgement - and the democrats have little judgement.

The questions surrounding why so many democratic interest groups center around this issue: Obama is incompetent.


The democrats are upset that Obama is incompetent in running the democratic party.

The American People are upset that Obama is incompetent in running the country.

Perhaps there is some agreement possible here.

Perhaps Obama has finally brought the nation together. Perhaps the REAL bipartisan agreement is that OBAMA HAS TO GO.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

* Palin adviser worked for foreign governments *

Sarah Palin, seen as a possible Republican presidential candidate, has paid tens of thousands of dollars for foreign policy advice to a U.S. firm that represents three overseas governments, campaign finance documents show.

While legal, the adviser's work as an agent for other countries raises questions about whether Palin is receiving impartial information about foreign relations and could become a subject of debate if she runs for president or another elected office.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6935NQ20101004

* Senator Kaufman selected as new top TARP cop *

Senator Ted Kaufman was selected on Monday to chair the congressional panel overseeing the $700 billion financial sector bailout program -- a day after the program officially expired.

Last week Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid picked Kaufman, a critic of Wall Street, to fill the seat vacated by Elizabeth Warren, who left the panel to become a special adviser to President Obama charged with helping set up the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6934J120101004

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 4, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone want to discuss the TOPIC re: Christine O'Donnell -- Mr. Sargent has not posted today about her being a witch -- rather, she has managed to secure access to classified info detailing China's "carefully thought out and strategic plan" to take over America?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Democrat Alex Sink accused her Republican rival Monday of being a mystery candidate who is trying to buy the office Monday as she appeared before the St. Petersburg Times editorial board.

“I just refuse to let Rick Scott hijack my state without a fight," Sink said, during the hour-long, wide-ranging interview. "He’s trying to buy the office," she said.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2010/10/sink-says-scott-came-to-florida-to-avoid-paying-income-tax.html

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 4, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

the Princess Bride, do I get a t shirt?

Hopefully the DSCC won't be wasting valuable resources in Delaware. As Ann Richards used to say she is done you can stick a fork in her.

Wait til the Girls Gone Wild Ad hits Connecticut soon, jake will be in tears.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Too late department, from TPM

"Cantor On Shutdown: We Don't Want To Look Like 'Yahoos'"

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Brown/Whitman debate cancelled.

This was supposed to be a radio debate tomorrow on KGO in San
Francisco, which both campaigns cancelled today.

Here's the scuttlebutt: Whitman wants to cancel since she's needs to
avoid any more questions about maid-gate. She's so boxed in here
there is nothing she says that makes things better, so better to shut
up for a while.

Brown wants to cancel since, in the Bay Area, he's already ahead by
20-30 points. He doesn't need to take any risks in this part of the
state.

Here's what's really interesting:

Statewide (I think), a couple of private polls have Brown ahead with
Latinos 40-50 points! Wow, if that's true.

Statewide, in addition to Rasmussen +5, there are two other private
polls that have Brown +10 and +11.

When both campaigns cancel, neither looks bad. Or, it's a draw.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

BGinCHI at 6:46 PM

Please can we IGNORE the people who want us to IGNORE PEOPLE ???

The hostility on this blog is not working.

First the liberals try name-calling. That doesn't work.

Then they try to get nasty - that doesn't work.

Then they start to tell everyone to ignore someone. That is NOT TOLERANCE - Tolerance is tolerance - it is not organizing boycotts and spreading hostility.

ONE of the problems here is when the hostility begins, YOU ARE IGNORED - and that is what is really bothering you - people are not responding to your hostility.

.

Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

STRF or whatever name you have chosen today, you have really perfected the
Victim Card strategy. Poor poor thing, not getting enough attention here? Using the word hostility 3 times in one post does
absolutely nothing to fein Victimhood.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, not "all" Presidents have used TelePrompters (since it was only INVENTED in 1950). Despite what is being taught in public schools these days, there were indeed Presidents BEFORE

BTW: Ronald Reagan was able to memorize HIS lines ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Thank you all for ignoring the trolls. Please continue.

And here's the latest on DeMint's my-faith-over-everybody theocratic vision...

“People are beginning to see that there's no way we can pay the interest on our debt and every week, we're borrowing money to pay the debt we have and are creating new programs that are costing more money,” he said. “Hopefully in 2012, we'll make headway to repeal some of the things we've done, because politics only works when we're realigned with our Savior.”
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/10/about-that-libertarian-tea-party-movement-.html

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

http://www.mediaite.com/online/this-exists-video-of-deaf-baby-boy-hearing-for-the-first-time-goes-viral/

Posted by: sbj3 | October 4, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

bernie, thanks for that.

I assume DeMint means that we'll be paying more attention to the neediest among us and that we'll be more pacifist and charitable.

Turning water into wine though, that I'd vote for.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Even MORE "my-faith-over-everybody theocratic vision" just for a little historical context:

“The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.” Benjamin Rush

“Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime & pure, [and] which denounces against the wicked eternal misery, and [which] insured to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.” Charles Carroll

“[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion…Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

“Hopefully in 2012, we'll make headway to repeal some of the things we've done, because politics only works when we're realigned with our Savior.” says DeMint
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I wonder how he can even get on his horse, it's so high. He must have a ladder just to get to the stirrup.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

do we need to link you to Ronald Reagan's
usage of the telepromptor or have you gotten under some of Christine's witches brew tonight? He was a great guy but there were unfortunate times when he couldn't remember where he was much less the intracacies of a 1 hour speech.

what is with these snarky posts when I post all POTUS, obviously intending it to mean all modern POTUS use telepromptors. Perhaps you believe I was suggesting that Jefferson and Washington used them as well or perhaps the internets.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I wonder how Benjamin Rush, Charles Carroll, or John Adams could stand themselves??? We know that Abigail just wanted to set her husband on fire!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

leichtman, you lay down with dogs, you get fleas.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Or, leichtman, you lay down with sophists, you get sophistry.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, now, who would sound like more of a kook and enemy of the Constitution to Washington, or Adams, or Lincoln, or any of its drafters, Demint or Bernie Latham?

Demint or . . . Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Frank, Waters, et al.

Not a hard question.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 4, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

12Bar

Whitman's comments in the last debate in response to a question re the DREAM ACT from a young latina student with a 4.0 GPA attending a CA university who was born here to illegals may have something to do with her current and probably eventual slide in the polls.

"Here is the challenge we face: Our resources are scarce. We are in terrible economic times and slots have been eliminated at the California State University system — I think they’re down by 40,000 students. Same is true at the ... the University of California system. Programs have been cut, and California citizens have been denied admission to these universities and I don’t think it’s fair to bar and eliminate the ability of California citizens to attend higher universities and favor undocumenteds."

Posted by: lmsinca | October 4, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1:

I don't "need" you to do a d@mn thing -- perhaps it would be better to follow everyone's advice and "ignore" me -- that way I can point out you said ALL Presidents, not "all modern Presidents".

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

“Hopefully in 2012, we'll make headway to repeal some of the things we've done, because politics only works when we're realigned with our Savior.” says DeMint
---------------------------------
I wonder how he can even get on his horse, it's so high. He must have a ladder just to get to the stirrup.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 7:13 PM
..................

I often wonder how people like him never stop to think; If their God was able to create the entire universe without their help, why would that same God not be able to align an insignificant species like us, in what ever manner it wishes to have it aligned.

The Creator; outlined as all powerful, in their beliefs, has to rely on getting help from Senator DeMinted?!

Posted by: Liam-still | October 4, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Jake

You are correct - Dick Blumenthal lied about being in Vietnam.

Linda McMahaon gets the SMACK-DOWN.

Feingold is looking like a lost cause as well.

Dino Rossi is up in the air - I think he will win in the end.

Colorado looks like a win for the Republicans as well.

There are some polls which have the Illinois Senate race evening up.

My guess is the Republican will win in West Virginia as well.

Someone add all that up - the Republicans are close to taking over the Senate.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

James Fallows has concluded that he cannot now vote for Christine O'Donnell...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/of-course-i-was-going-to-vote-for-christine-odonnell-before-this/64028/

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Ohio Senate debate live on C-SPAN radio. I was hoping for Connecticut. Very heavy on trade talk so far.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 4, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

@lms,

You know what I think really resonates: "You don't know me and I don't know you". That's the Meg statement that just bounces off all the walls.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Does ANYONE ELSE want to discuss what Joe actually Miller says -- as opposed to what liberals are lying -- about the 10th Amendment?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Blade, you mean the LeBron James trade?

Now that's a debate.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

what Joe Miller ACTUALLY says (darn SpellChecker ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

I used that Adams quotation in correcting Bernie over his last irrational rant about descending "theocracy" over the weekend.

Of course, typical Bernie, when confronted with actual facts, he runs like the coward he is. The most you'll get is some meaningless declaration that just because Demint is a "theocrat" doesn't mean all political philosophies are theocratic.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 4, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

BG said: "Turning water into wine though, that I'd vote for."

You know, Jesus' teen years must have been really trying. Invited to every party, sure. But why? Someone fails a final or the quarterback blows out his anterior cruciate before the big game and it's always "Get the miracle guy, what's his name" I've been used too and I know what it can feel like.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

John Adams was one of our greatest POTUS except for the 1798 Alien Sedition Act he signed into law. Adams wore his religion on his sleeve, Jefferson was a deist and unitarian and creator of the Virgina Satute of Religious Freedom.

these Jeffersonian quotes however make him unacceptable to Rick Perry nor recognized in our Texas school textbooks, instead he is replaced by that great American hero Phyllis Schlafly.

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Rush, 1813.

"I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Dowse, 1803. ME 10:378


V

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell has lost James Fallows?! Say it isn't so.


I also wonder how many people attacking Joe Miller have his legal credentials. Would love to see Greg or this Mori person debate him.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 4, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Comments here are officially f&*ked.

See you after you install an ignore button or an idiot filter.

Posted by: PorkBelly | October 4, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

James Fallows has concluded that he cannot now vote for Christine O'Donnell...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/of-course-i-was-going-to-vote-for-christine-odonnell-before-this/64028/

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 7:21 PM.

...................

That is a shame, because would be Hari Krishnas, who have been foiled by their love of meatballs, deserve to have their own political champion.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 4, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Thank you ALL for IGNORING those who advocate ignoring their fellow Americans.

The basis of the First Amendment is tolerance - not pushing out opposing views.

Name-calling is not tolerance. It hasn't worked on this blog.

The nasty comments have been tried - they haven't worked either.

So if you want to ignore someone - ignore them in silence - Don't start telling everyone that you want to ignore them - that is hostile - and that behavior is more like a bunch of 8 year old girls trying to enforce a clique.

I am appealing for TOLERANCE - I believe adults can handle mature civil discourse - without trying to push out dissenting views.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

How much of what we're talking about in terms of theocratic pols, moral principles, political factions, and corrupt, imperialist governing has already been covered by the greatest work of political philosophy of the 20th century?

Yes, I'm talking about "The Life of Brian."

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh well, quarterback1, don't worry about it. We are not here to convince them anyways!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Who you calling Bozo?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/it-has-come-to-this-odonnell-family-straightens-out-fathers-bozo-the-clown-career.php?ref=fpblg

Oh, so many clown jokes, so little time.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

"politics only works when we're realigned with our Savior.” says DeMint"

Gotta be joking.

I guess "our Savior" has got DE JUICE!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 4, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

If anyone ELSE has a question about what Joe Miller actually said about the 10th Amendment, feel free to read my comments pertaining to that topic on the prior thread:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/does_joe_miller_think_child_la.html#comments

If you STILL have a question, let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Heh. McNabb got traded. Cleveland got betrayded.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 4, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Notice the ellipsis in the John Adams quote? Here is what our conservative blogger has omitted by the judicious use of that punctuation:

"Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net."

Adams isn't talking about "fundy" religion, which is so concerned with the who, how, why, and how often of sex, which is not at all concerned with limiting avarice and ambition, and which in fact legitimizes avarice as "blessing from God" through the "Prosperity Gospel".

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 4, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Meg Whitman's campaign for governor has doubled its advertising on Spanish-language radio and increased the number of its Latino television spots by roughly 50% as the former EBay chief executive seeks to blunt the impact of news that she employed, then fired, an illegal immigrant as a housekeeper.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

crickets

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

this is all you need to know about whack job Joe Miller. Heck I would likely be voting for Murkowski if I lived in Alaska.


"Employees in the U.S. should not be provided a federal guarantee of minimum wage, Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller said recently. The states, instead, should be left to determine the minimum rate that an employer can provide their workers, he argued.

"That is not within the scope of the powers that are given to the federal government," the Tea Party-backed GOP insurgent argued in a recent ABC News interview. "That is clearly up to the states."

"Social Security, hate crimes laws, the Department of Education and even unemployment insurance should all be put on the constitutional chopping block, Miller believes."

In an interview with Fox News in September, Miller explained federal provisions of safety nets to the nation's unemployed as an "entitlement mentality" that breaches the Constitution"

"And shortly after his primary victory, Miller said that Social Security should be phased out in order "to transfer the power back to the states so that states can take up the mantle of those programs if they so desire." If they don't so desire, simply let them live out of their shopping carts.

I truly hope all of his Tea Party supporters in Alaska living on Social Security, and needing Medicare, appreciate Joe's radical position. These quotes by Miller make Christine and Sharon sound like the sane candidates.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

BGinCHI:

You are eating crickets again?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth, I'll vouch for Berman's book. A number of great books have come out recently, and Herding Donkeys tops the list. It provides some important nuance about the recent history of the party. Really good stuff.

It reinforced my take that Howard Dean vs. Rahm Emanuel isn't as much about hero vs. villain as it's about two different approaches. One of them (Dean's) is much more current and vibrant, while Rahm's is firmly stuck in 90's-style conventional wisdom that squanders the promise of the Dem coalition.

Also definitely worth a read is Dylan Loewe's Permanently Blue. On the policy side, Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson's Winner-Take-All Politics is simply outstanding. It's an excellent follow-up to Off Center.

Posted by: michael_conrad | October 4, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Today is the day that California mails out it's early vote ballots. Ballots by mail made up 58% of the June primary votes.

This is not good for Whitman, particularly.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

12bar I am no longer much concerned about Ca. We need to put all our efforts into helping Feingold, White and Sestak, imho.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, those of you who LIVE in Alaska probably already know that Joe Miller graduated from Yale Law School in 1995, after graduating from the United States Military Academy at West Point (with a Bachelor of Science in Political Science with honors in 1989). As a United States Army officer, he served in the 2nd Battalion, 34th Armor Regiment within the 1st Infantry Division, and was awarded the Bronze Star for his leadership in combat during the First Gulf War. Miller was honorably discharged from the U.S. Army on September 1, 1992 and from the United States Army Reserve on May 30, 1997.

Joe Miller moved to Alaska when he accepted a position with Condon Partnow & Sharrock, a law firm in Anchorage. Three years later, he was appointed a state court magistrate in the small, remote village of Tok, as well as a superior court master for the Fourth Judicial District. Four years later, Miller was appointed Acting State District Court Judge and, shortly thereafter, U.S. Magistrate Judge in Fairbanks.

Miller spent seven years as a part-time assistant attorney for the Fairbanks North Star Borough, while maintaining a private law practice. One of his major cases as borough assistant attorney involved successfully defending the borough's levy on the companies that own the Trans-Alaska Pipeline.

In 2009, Joe Miller received a master's degree in economics from the University of Alaska.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman, thanks for the clarity on that. Miller is a radical, with his bridge-building to the 19th century. Let's hope AK will keep the Senate from getting even worse (cringe).

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 4, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

and even with a real resume, notice he made no mention of attending Oxford Univ, his constitutional positions are still radical, even for Alaskans.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Joe Miller graduated from Yale Law School in 1995, after graduating from the United States Military Academy at West Point (with a Bachelor of Science in Political Science with honors in 1989).
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Now, are we to understand that not only did he graduate, but that he also attended, these institutions? We can take this on faith, right?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

* Katrina Vanden Heuvel points out that conservaDems who are flirting with entitlement reform for deficit reduction are seriously undercutting a potentially powerful Dem message: That Republicans want to do away with Social Security.
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That's a good point, but Katrina left out one very prominent conservaDem: The one who appointed the Catfood Commission.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

we should be sending money to Murkowski and Christ, 2 rational candidates in a year of Radical Rs.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

In 2009, Joe Miller received a master's degree in economics from the University of Alaska.
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Or do we have to ask a whole lot of REALLY detailed questions. You know, like the meaning of graduated, honors, master's degrees, and economics.

Just checking. You know, recent history has taught us to be really careful with resumes.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Liar-still:

I did not come to destroy Plumline, but rather to save it! For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, so that whosoever shall believe in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

12bar, Miller should be much scarier to rational voters than O'Donnell. He has real credentials, radical but real nonetheless.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Now JakeD is Jesus. These people are really pieces of ..something or other.

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 4, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

@leichtman,

I understand and agree. Far more ominous.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1,

Are you sure Christ is running as a Republican? And does he meet citizenship requirements? His last known earthly address was in Galilee.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 4, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

So, Miller got a free education care of the good old US of A, served his mandatory minimum 6 year hitch and then bolted out of the service as soon as he could.

Do I have that right?

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 4, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

who said he was running as a R. He appears to have been a compitent R Gov, when running a state with Florida's economic problems was a real challenge. If he loses I hope Obama will give serious consideration to his joining the adminsitration.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

pragmaticstill:

You missed the part about being awarded the Bronze Star for his leadership in combat during the First Gulf War.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many PELL Grants he got to go to Yale?

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 4, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

First Jesus, now Bethonie Butler. Wow--isn't this called "call to authority", the well known logical fallacy?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

with Radical ideas for Alaskans.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Now JakeD is Jesus. These people are really pieces of ..something or other.

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 4, 2010 8:10 PM
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He tried to save TPM, too. But he got banned instead (just like our Savior!).
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Of course, when your side makes fun of a WWII vet who lost his arm in combat (Bob Dole) and a Vietnam vet / POW who was tortured so much that he can no longer raise his arms above his head (John McCain), I guess this is no big deal ...

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Does he still get medical care from the VA?

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 4, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

pragmaticstill,

Miller is another teabagger who has mostly received government paychecks through his adult life. Wow, I'm so surprised.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 4, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

avarice, revenge, greed = modern welfare state

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 4, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

pragmaticstill:

If he had instead been "community organizing" (and maybe, or maybe, not born in Kenya), then he could have been YOUR next false Messiah.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

@thunder...it's pretty amazing isn't. Less than a week after bragging about taking down progressive blogs and saying that was his "work" he's reporting me. Well at this point in time if the monitors...if indeed they have paid attention to what's happened recently wish to trade me for JakeD and STRF they can do so with my blessings.

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 4, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

and Saxby Chambliss never told Georgian voters that Max Cleland sided with terrorists? right

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1,

Sorry, I was being a bit snarky about your reference to "Christ" instead of "Crist." I thought the reference to Galilee would give it away . . .

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 4, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

@ruk,

I am sure that you and I (and others) have been reported dozens of times. Have I gotten a threatening email? Have you? Have the trolls gotten email from Bethanie Butler?

Hmmmmmmmmm...what do you think?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 4, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Exactly right bearclaw. Looks like he went to Yale while he was still in the Army Reserves, so the government probably paid for that too. He actually only served 3 years of active duty.

From wikipedia:

Three years later, he was appointed a state court magistrate in the small, remote village of Tok,[10] as well as a superior court master for the Fourth Judicial District. Four years later, Miller was appointed Acting State District Court Judge and, shortly thereafter, U.S. Magistrate Judge in Fairbanks.

Miller spent seven years as a part-time assistant attorney for the Fairbanks North Star Borough. One of his major cases as borough assistant attorney involved successfully defending the borough's levy of a tax increase on the companies that own the Trans-Alaska Pipeline.

He's a beauty alright.

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 4, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

rukidding7:

I've never posted a single "personal attack" against ANYONE here (except maybe Greg Sargent, but then again the rules "encourage users" to comment on and even challenge WaPo articles, blogs, etc.)

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Jake

Don't worry about the name-calling - we all know that name-calling doesn't work.

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Jake

What about health care - does it really fall under interstate commerce?

Doctors' licenses are handled by the States - and we have a 200 year tradition of health care being regulated by the States.

These are important questions - the 10th Amendment is sitting there - so there has to be some division between Federal powers and State powers.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

SaveTheRainforest:

I don't worry; that federal court should be ruling on ObamaCare any day now (hopefully BEFORE Election Day ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

...JakeD and STRF they can do so with my blessings.

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 4, 2010 8:22 PM
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I love the right-wing victimization routine.

Torture, spying without a warrant, going to war based on lies? All excellent.

Someone on the internet pointing out that the right-winger in question is full of it?

WAILLLLLLL! My First Amendment rights are being violated!! *piteous sob*

You see, rukidding7, JakeD and STRF are RISKING THEIR LIVES typing for the GOP. How DARE you disrespect their sacrifice?
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

ifthethunderdontgetya:

When did I say that my 1st Amendment rights are being violated?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 4, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

So many conservatives I know moan about effete eastern elitists and their highbrow Ivy League educations telling us how to live.

And then they just love rattling off somebody like Joe Miller's (gasp) elitist eastern Ivy League credentials. And let's not forget West Point is back east, too.

Thanks to Miller for his service and his Bronze Star. Doesn't mean he's not a radical.

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | October 4, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I'd link to one of your comments over at TPM, Jake, but they all seem to have been deleted.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

RUK, are you serious, he bragged about taking down liberal blogs? And it's his job? Figures. And he lives in Connecticut. That explains a lot.

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | October 4, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

@ru - I'm beggin' ya... ignore these guys. Don't read 'em. Don't refer to 'em. It's when they stand alone that their activities become clear. And then the administrators can act with greater ease because of that clarity.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Anyone check out if Miller actually went to an Ivy League university? Maybe it's just another U of Phoenix rented deal.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 4, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"The Dallas Morning News came out with a story this weekend that Texas Gov. Rick Perry used the state's Emerging Technology Fund to funnel some $16 million to firms that were backed by major donors to his campaign."

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/report_rick_perry_gave_16m_in_state_money_to_firms.php

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

jake appaarently is unaware that his candidate,
Ms, McMahon not only wants to reduce the minimum wage, but earned some of her millions from promoting Girls Gone Wild videos to underage boys, certainly a GOP family value that he and his candidate strongly endorse.
Perhaps that is why she has been consistantly behind in all polls despite spending tens of millions to try and buy a Senate seat.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

ifthethunderdontgetya at 8:34 PM


Thank you for supporting what MAKES this country so great.

I know you really didn't, but hey.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Radical Rick, paying off his contributors with tax money.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

bearclaw I need to do a better job of proof reading my posts. snarky was referencing jake's immature attack when I said all POTUS(recent) use telepromptors in his ridiculous suggestion that Reagan rarely did. keep putting an h in Crist, sorry.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Headlines that demand a click...

"Fla. Man Denies Cocaine Found in Buttocks Is His"

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/10/04/us/AP-US-ODD-Well-Hidden-Drugs.html?_r=1&ref=news

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

From some of the comments today, it appears that some of the Democrats' most used and abused supporters are finally getting around to showing a little spine. They've figured out that B.S. alone isn't worth much. When groups give big money they expect action on issues---and they usually get it. When all you can give is your vote, you get B.S. You get spit on and told it's rain.

I've been saying for years that blacks should leverage their votes. The same applies to gays. No one works for money that's already in the bank; it's the same with votes. Nothing will get the Dems attention like tossing them out in the street. Maybe the Republicans won't give you what you want, but you'll certainly get a better deal from the Dems next time around. 95% support for one party is a fool's bet. Why would Republicans bust a nut and risk offending some of their voters if it isn't going to do them a lick of good at the ballot box? What did GWB get for worrying so much about Africa?

So for all you disappointed Dems whose only mission in life is to see that Dems are re-elected, because you think they're better than the alternative, I have some advice: get up off your knees; you have to strain too much to keep your tongues on Obama's boots at the same time your lips are on his butt. He does appreciate it---he thinks you're fools.

Posted by: Brigade | October 4, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

lips on his butt where is that ugly comment coming from? I was a Hillary supporter that respects my POTUS, and you have a problem with that?
95% support for one party, on what planet?

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Radical Rick, paying off his contributors with tax money.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 8:59 PM
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Buck up and face facts: Bill White is toast. Isn't Perry the one you refer to as Governor Haircut? What do you call White, chrome dome? Don't they have a Hair Club for Men or Mr. Executive in Texas?

Posted by: Brigade | October 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

95% support for one party, on what planet?

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:24 PM
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This one. How much of the African-American vote went for Obama in 2008?

Posted by: Brigade | October 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

no I refer to him as Radical Rick and 6% points is far from over. The tv ads are set to kick in thisn sunday. I suppose its over for you with Meg and Carly who you were so sure of several months ago.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

That would be Governor Goodhair.

And the term refers to the fact that his head is good for little more than holding up the hairdo.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

certainly AAs support claims by Rs that Civil Rights laws and the minimum wage are unconstitutional. The real question is why 5% of AAs would support Rs?

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Brigade

You are 100% correct.

The black community would be far better off if half of them went over to the Republican party.


This would cause BOTH parties to campaign for votes in the black community - and compete for support -

Then the black community can decide which candidates to support based on the issues.


At this point, it is a sad situation that the democrats believe that blacks will always vote one way - based on their skin color.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I suppose its over for you with Meg and Carly who you were so sure of several months ago.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:29 PM
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"Well, there you go again." ---Ronald Reagan

Try and produce some quote where I am/was "sure of" Meg and/or Carly.
I think you once accused me of saying J.D. Hayworth would oust McCain. LOL.

I do, however, remember any number of posts from liberals assuring us that Toomey, Buck, Angle, and McMahon had no chance whatsoever.

Posted by: Brigade | October 4, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Jake

Don't you yearn for your days in the great halls of an elite western institution ?


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

What would you give to watch Woody Allen interview Billy Grapham? It actually happened and I saw the original broadcast. You can watch it at the link below (you won't be sorry).

But I wanted to point to one answer Grapham gives to the question, What's the worst sin? Grapham pegs it not as murder or the other options but as violation of commandment # 1. Is there a tie here to DeMint's theocratic vision? Please discuss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_poGsbBgpE

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

maybe it was another brigade who posted at The Fix. Notice you didn't mention Christine. And by the way it was the right who has guaranteed that they would defeat Harry who was once as much as 20% points down and today's Real Clear Politics has McMahan 12% down but yet to you 6% points down is over. Go figure.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

The real question is why 5% of AAs would support Rs?

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 9:33 PM
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If for no other reason than to stop being taken for granted. Remember the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act? Who controlled the government at that time? It's pretty easy to keep people in a revolving door to the penitentiary if it's against federal law for anyone to give them a job other than swabbing toilet floors. I recall Republicans passed Johnson's CRA over Democratic filibusters. How's the unemployment rate today in AA communities? Nothing like an ad showing a black man being dragged behind a pickup and blaming GWB to bring those Republicans on board for your cause.

Posted by: Brigade | October 4, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Two years ago all the democrats wanted to talk about was their fantasies of what Earth would be like under Obama.


America was promised everything - a candyland - if they would only vote for Obama -

- immediately historical racism would be wiped out

- other nations would respect us so much that we elected a black man that they would immediately stop fighting us - and terrorism would end

- health care would be free - doctors would get paid by the tooth fairy

- health insurance companies would pay all claims, with little smiley faces on every letter


- Obama would lead with transparency - all his records would be released and we could see his transcripts.

NOW - the DEMOCRATS DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT OBAMA


There is no evaluation of Obama's economic policies

There is no discussion of whether Obama's health care plan should be revised.

There is no talk of how much of a drag on hiring Obama's health care plan is.

There is no condemnation of the False Charges of Racism


I don't hear any democrats saying that they want the bipartisan spirit which was PROMISED TO AMERICA.


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WHY ? I ASK WHY??? WHY DID AMERICA GET SUCH A BAD DEAL FROM OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS ???

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1 wrote,
"maybe it was another brigade who posted at The Fix. Notice you didn't mention Christine."
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No, just me. But nothing about Hayworth beating McCain. By Christine, I assume you mean O'Donnell. I suppose you're now going to say I guaranteed an O'Donnell win.

Posted by: Brigade | October 4, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I recall Republicans passed Johnson's CRA over Democratic filibusters.
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Posted by: Brigade | October 4, 2010 9:47 PM
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It's amazing that Republicans always remember this, but can never remember the Southern Strategy they've been running for the past 40 years.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Who the heckahwee is Billy Grapham and why is the child seducing nebish dwarf interviewing him?

Posted by: tao9 | October 4, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

"Paul, who beat an establishment-backed candidate in Tuesday's GOP primary, appeared on MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show" and, in a long exchange with the liberal host, repeated his belief in a limited government that should not force private businesses to abide by civil rights law"


and brigade and the GOP are clueless why AAs keep voting D. The fact that they don't understand why speaks volumes.In law its called res ipsa loquitor.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

"Paul, who beat an establishment-backed candidate in Tuesday's GOP primary, appeared on MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show" and, in a long exchange with the liberal host, repeated his belief in a limited government that should not force private businesses to abide by civil rights law"


and brigade and the GOP are clueless why AAs keep voting D. The fact that they don't understand why speaks volumes.In law its called res ipsa loquitor.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

"Paul, who beat an establishment-backed candidate in Tuesday's GOP primary, appeared on MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show" and, in a long exchange with the liberal host, repeated his belief in a limited government that should not force private businesses to abide by civil rights law"


and brigade and the GOP are clueless why AAs keep voting D. The fact that they don't understand why speaks volumes.In law its called res ipsa loquitor.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone check out if Miller actually went to an Ivy League university? Maybe it's just another U of Phoenix rented deal.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 4, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Billy Grapham (or Billy God Gruff, as he was known to the kids in his neighborhood) was a Messenger. A 50 watt halo gen. A rip in the fabric of Darwinian-meat-creatures. At least, that's how the Reader's Digest had it.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 4, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

ddAWD

Why can't anyone see Obama's transcripts?

Is it because he was enrolled as a foreign student?


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

he was President of the Harvard Law Review, apparently you have absolutely no idea what that means or what is required to even get accepted into Harvard Law School. That is Harvard as in Boston unlike the faux Oxford University credentials of your crowd.

Posted by: leichtman1 | October 4, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Miller got a degree from Yale Law School.

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2010/sep/16/miller-law-95-balances-tea-party-ideals-with-yale/
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 4, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

leichtman

You are right - I don't think they have released Obama's grades - so the country has no way of knowing if Obama was an affirmative action student or

OR whether a white student with the same grades and scores would have been admitted.

Same with the Harvard Law Review editorship where Obama had no article which he was credited as writing.

Anyway.............

The board spoke earlier today about how Obama is running the democratic party - and its interest groups - Obama's lack of qualifications are showing.

Tell that to the democratic groups who are upset with Obama's performance that Obama is qualified.

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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I seem to remember another dispute regarding Oxford.

Wasn't Bill Clinton involved in a series of questions as to whether he really was a Rhodes Scholar???


I believe that the question was that although Bill Clinton WAS AT Oxford - he wasn't ACTUALLY in the Rhodes Scholar program at Oxford.


That would be HILARIOUS if Christine O'Donnell had the same situation as ............ Bill Clinton.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 4, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton did not graduate from the University of Oxford either. That is where he protested the Vietnam war and claimed to have smoked pot, though, and didn't inhale.

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 4, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Nope, Clinton didn't graduate from Oxford. Neither did Albert Einstein.

So there we have it. O'Donnell is as smart as Albert Einstein.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 5, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Only DDAWD has claimed that "O'Donnell is as smart as Albert Einstein."

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 5, 2010 5:00 AM | Report abuse

leichtman writes:

"Paul, who beat an establishment-backed candidate in Tuesday's GOP primary, appeared on MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show" and, in a long exchange with the liberal host, repeated his belief in a limited government that should not force private businesses to abide by civil rights law"


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First - this quote is old - it if from last May.


Most importantly - this quote was a misstatement by one candidate - there is no one who says this view represents the entire Republican party.


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Take a look at the history of this issue - the REPUBLICANS wrote this issue into the Constitution in the form of the 14th Amendment.


AND the REPUBLICANS specifically wrote INTO that amendment the power of the Federal government to enforce that amendment - so the Constitution does give the Federal government powers in this area - in the 14th Amendment.


It would be fair to say that for almost 100 years after this amendment was enacted, the democrats did everything they could to stop its enforcement - including the democrats writing and passing the Jim Crow laws and working with domestic terrorist groups to prevent the 14th amendment from actually being enforced properly.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 5, 2010 6:20 AM | Report abuse

The issue today is whether Obama has given the nation "mixed messages."

Well the answer to that is certainly yes - for the past six months the nation has been subjected to nothing but a series of trial ballons of possible campaign issues - practically all of which have met with negative reactions and simply haven't gone anywhere.

Obama's orginal plan was to jam his health care bill down the throats of America - and hope that everyone would forget by election time. That has not worked.

In addition, Obama's original plan to phase-in health care - in a way that would delay the worst effects for years - failed also when insurance companies started to raise premium rates 10 - 20 % - proving their is no free lunch in health care.

Obama's idea to move to financial regulation also failed - the passage of Obama's bill degenerated into several failed partisan attempts to make the Repubicans look bad on issue.

Obama's blantant partisan actions calling for votes when negotiations were still underway ran counter to Obama'a campaign promises and further eroded Obama's standing with the public.

Even worse, Obama refused to deal with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the Financial Regulation bill - which extremely limited Obama's ability to claim that he was handling the economy properly -
In fact, just the opposite is true - the lack of addressing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac leaves Obama open to reasonable charges that Obama is NOT adequately addressing the economic issues.


Ultimately Obama's message is OBAMA'S ACTIONS. And at this point few in this country can claim any confidence in Obama's actions.

Obama's attitude in front of Congress last September - the ARROGANCE of going in front of Congress and stating clearly that he "did not come to Washington" to be distracted by economic issues - and instead insisted on putting his attention on what he perceived as ego-driven history book attention-grabbing issues - has DEFINED OBAMA.

This is WHAT OBAMA DID - no one else - this is not a talking point - this is the THEME OF OBAMA'S ONE TERM AS CHOSEN BY OBAMA HIMSELF.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 5, 2010 6:43 AM | Report abuse

This year is a change election.

Everyone knows that Obama printed up a bunch of posters with the word "change" and put them all over every room he was in.

However, democrats will point out quickly that "change" was Bill Clinton's campaign theme in 1992 - and it was curious that Obama printed so many posters with that word when Obama was running against Hillary.


However, it is clear that Obama has not delivered the change people wanted - and the American people are looking elsewhere for their change.

Obama has failed to give the American People the change they were looking for. Obviously, getting to 60 votes with the crazy vote counting in Minnesota was probably the worst thing ever for Obama - that Senate threshold turned out to be the forbidden fruit for Obama.

It is amazing to point out that the Massachusetts legislature had to change the law in order for Obama to keep those 60 votes for the few months in which health care passed.

Again, Obama appeared to be more of the insider political guy in Washington - pushing for his special interests - more than anything else.

The American People have taken a look at Obama - and they now WANT what Obama printed on those posters.


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Posted by: SaveTheRainforest | October 5, 2010 6:57 AM | Report abuse

@ leichtman1

There's no value added here when engaging these people. But value is lost for everyone else. Please don't.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 5, 2010 7:25 AM | Report abuse

@DDAWD: "Anyone check out if Miller actually went to an Ivy League university? Maybe it's just another U of Phoenix rented deal."

Possible, but unlikely. It is possible for smart people to be impressively credentialed, and still disagree with you. ;)

@12Bar: "Or do we have to ask a whole lot of REALLY detailed questions. You know, like the meaning of graduated, honors, master's degrees, and economics. -- Just checking. You know, recent history has taught us to be really careful with resumes."

Well, you know, Joe Miller and Christine O'Donnell are both from the same hemisphere. Birds of a feather, and all that. ;)

Alas, not everyone with very (and actually, as opposed to certain Delaware poseurs) conservative viewpoints is going to have the good graces to be crazy, and thus easily pigeonholed and defeated.

That being said, remember how you know when a politician is lying: when you find out they're a politician.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 5, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps folks here caught the story of the Tennessee fire department that let a family home burn to the ground because a $75 insurance fee had not been paid. Some stories make me angry but this one just sickens.

As Tomasky says in a piece titled "John Gault joins the fire brigade":

"I won't quite go the full nine yards of saying that this is what life would be like in tea party America. Not quite. But I'll go 4.5 yards for sure."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2010/oct/05/usa-ayn-rand-burns-down-mans-house

Posted by: bernielatham | October 5, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

@sbj3: (from previous thread): "I think you must have missed kevin's initial post that I was responding to. He sarcastically and condescendingly commented that gays and hispanics expected too much for their pet issues"

I wanted to tackle this earlier, but I wanted to note that I did not mean to come off as either sarcastic or condescending--just wanted to say that I thought the special interests, especially those that supported Obama in 2008--and not just homosexuals and Hispanics, but union members (as was mentioned in the original post) and, in my opinion, some others--were expecting too much from the administration in under 2 years. Especially against one of the most effectively organized legislative minorities in history.

While you may certainly disagree (and I understand that), I did not mean the original comment to come off as condescending or dismissive.

I think there's only so much any administration can do, in the real world, and I think expectations (largely fostered by the Obama campaign) may have been unreasonably high. The president, despite being the president, has a lot of real-world limitations on him, and a lot of competing interest just within his own administration. And advancing some agendas would take time. At least, more than 1.8 years. ;)

Didn't mean to sound sarcastic or condescending, and I apologize if I gave any offense.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 5, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Is this going to be one of those depressing mornings?

Israeli rabbi concludes that it's ok for a female Mossad agent to seduce and boink for national security reasons. If married, they probably ought to get a divorce before the boinking, then get remarried right after.

The depressing part? No such rabbinical allowance apparently relevant or necessary for males. Boink away, boys. It's a unique gender right.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/israeli-rabbi-honey-pot-sex-is-kosher-for-female-mossad-agents-1.317288

Posted by: bernielatham | October 5, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Extension of settlement freeze to be discussed today by Netanyahu's cabinet and, one prays, those discussions will understand what Mubarak is trying to tell them...

"Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has warned that a failure in Israel-Palestinian peace negotiations would lead to "violence and terrorism" across the world."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/egypt-president-warns-of-global-terror-if-mideast-peace-talks-fail-1.317285

Posted by: bernielatham | October 5, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

@bernie: "Perhaps folks here caught the story of the Tennessee fire department that let a family home burn to the ground because a $75 insurance fee had not been paid. Some stories make me angry but this one just sickens."

One should note, the home that burned down is out of their municipality. And that the fellow, like everyone else, could have paid the $75 dollar (per year) for fire protection, and chose--like an idiot--not to protect his home for less in fire protection per year than it costs folks in the city of Memphis for 2 months (as bundled onto their utilities). While, myself, I would have made the call to put the fire out (then bill the guy for the full cost of time, labor, etc), behaving as if a fire department that does not serve an area has a moral obligation to protect folks who were given every opportunity to participate in a bit of a "social contract" to help pay for said protection, but chose not to . . . well, the guy who had his house burn down is primarily responsible for that outcome.

As Tomasky says in a piece titled 'John Gault joins the fire brigade':

Really? Fire departments aren't private corporations, are they? Or small businesses? Doesn't this, in fact, sound a little bit more like the government--which, it in fact, is (at the very local level)?

Reminds me more of the government duct workers in "Brazil" than anything in "Atlas Shrugged".

"Sorry, guv, can't put your house out. You didn't file your 10-11/B."

That being said, if it had been me, I still would have put the idiot's house out.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 5, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

@bernie: "Israeli rabbi concludes that it's ok for a female Mossad agent to seduce and boink for national security reasons. If married, they probably ought to get a divorce before the boinking, then get remarried right after."

I think that's a case of operating within the letter, but against the spirit, of the law.

"The depressing part? No such rabbinical allowance apparently relevant or necessary for males."

Why is that depressing? If I were a Mossad agent, I'd find that totally awesome.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 5, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

All, Morning Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/the_morning_plum_104.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 5, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

"one prays, those discussions will understand what Mubarak is trying to tell them..."

. . . that Israel must acquiesce, or Muslims will continue to terrorize the world? Yes, that's rather his clear message, but one that needed no restatement after decades of its proof by experience. Indeed, he could have just omitted the qualifier.

Posted by: quarterback1 | October 5, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

bernielatham and Kevin, I was going to respond to your comments, but someone warned me not to.

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 5, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

The fire department responded to the call and then stood by and watched the house burn down.

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 5, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Kevin
The poor, the elderly, the sick, the powerless are the least among us.

Would we have ambulance services arranged thus? "I'm sorry, ma'm but your house is beyond our driving limits and you haven't paid your ambulance fee so perhaps you could try cutting an electrical cord and holding it to your child's heart to get it beating again"

Posted by: bernielatham | October 5, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

To "those people" whom I am allowed to engage with, check out the Morning Plum:

The Dem argument about "extremist" GOPers isn't resonating

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 5, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

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