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Stomp victim Lauren Valle speaks: Attack was "premeditated"

The MoveOn worker who was attacked by Rand Paul supporters has now spoken out about the assault, claiming she was "injured," "in severe shock," and that she has no doubt that the attack was "premeditated."

She also vowed "further legal action."

Lauren Valle, who was dragged to the ground and had her head stepped on during a scuffle outside last night's Kentucky Senate debate, detailed the attack in a conference call with several reporters. She described it as being at least as bad as the footage suggests.

"My memory of it is sort of that of a traumatized person," she said. "I distinctly remember a blow to my head."

Some have suggested Valle tried to bait Paul into getting photographed with her, but she said she didn't get close enough for that to happen. She said she had been yelling out to "Dr. Paul" in the crowd, in order to get him to respond to her effort to give him an award from the fake company "Republicorps." But she added she never got a chance to get close to him because she was "targeted."

Valle said the attackers had identified her well in advance of the assault.

"They identified me as a MoveOn worker, and as someone they knew from prior campaign events," she said. "And so, about five minutes before Rand Paul showed up, they motioned to each other to start taking photographs of me." She added that they formed a "blockade" behind her.

"It was premeditated," she continued. "As soon as Rand Paul's car showed up they started to move in front of me."

I asked her why she was able to give subsequent interviews last night, if she'd been severely hurt. She pushed back, saying the full brunt of the pain hit her later.

"I was in severe shock," she said, adding that the pain in her head started in earnest "an hour and a half afterwards."

"I was certainly injured," she said. "If you have any questions about that, maybe watch it again."

Tim Profitt, Paul's Bourbon County coordinator, has admitted to being behind the attack, and the Paul campaign has disassociated itself with him.


UPDATE, 4:48 p.m.: To watch video of the attack, and for full coverage, go right here.

UPDATE, 6:22 p.m.: The Conway campaign is keeping up the pressure on Paul over the stomping.

By Greg Sargent  | October 26, 2010; 3:59 PM ET
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For those who missed it on the previous thread.

Greg's update:

Today, October 26, 2010, detectives identified the suspect, involved in the assault, as Tim Profitt. Mr. Profitt is currently being served with a criminal summons ordering him to appear before a Fayette County District Court Judge.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

@tpm:

Based upon the video and assuming there is no exculpatory evidence not on the video, the perpetrator(s) would be well advised to get a first rate criminal attorney and start plea bargaining and hope they can do some time on a misdemeanor in the Fayette County jail. If the report is correct that the victim suffered a concussion, then a felony prosecution is very a distinct possibility. No competent defense attorney wants to cross examine that video.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/10/wheres_the_stompers_lawyer.php

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Said "cops are treating the case for the time being as a fourth degree assault case, which puts this in the realm of domestic violence, scuffles and barfights"

Translation: It's a whole lot of nothing...

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Those thugs ought to be in a labor union.

They would fit right in.

Union thugs!

It's got a nice ring to it.

Posted by: battleground51 | October 26, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"As soon as Rand Paul's car showed up they started to move in front of me."


I'm sure the goons were only protecting prissy Rand, since he's the kind of guy who uses both hands to drink a cup of milk.

Posted by: filmnoia | October 26, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

BTW: wasn't Sirhan Sirhan just trying to give RFK an award from the fake company "MarilynMonroecorpse"?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

According to Valle, her partner, whom she identified as Alex, overheard the men threaten "we're here to do crowd control and we might have to take someone out."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/kentucky-stomping-victim-says-assailants-recognized-her-premeditated-attack.php

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Nice reportage, Greg. It's good to see fresh coverage of a shameful assault.

Here's Mr. Stomper (alleged)
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000700434881

Here's a FB profile some other sleuth got.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lPOV8FZAOCI/TMcZnsoQEWI/AAAAAAAACK8/Fzi_KcvLYoE/s1600/tim+profitt.jpg

And this blog's providing some coverage:
http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/

Posted by: KevinHayden | October 26, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Tim, baby, so, you like stepping on women? Wanna try and step on my head? Can you say "dumb thug"? How about "thug with his own foot shoved up his...."

Posted by: fluxgirl | October 26, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Four straight threads on this one topic.

Interesting.

Like there is no other issue in the nation. Is it this apparent that the democrats have ZERO issues on this side this year?

How about an economic plan???


The stimulus clearly did not work. So what are the democrats NOW proposing. They are asking to be in office for two more years - WHAT are they going to do about the economy over those two years?


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Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Lefty commenters: men shouldn't beat up women, and violence at a political rally, especially ganging up on someone who did nothing to deserve it, is wrong.

Righty commenters: it's not only ok for men to beat up women, but it should have been worse.

And unless someone can convince me otherwise, battleground and brigade are the same person. Socket puppet bs just like STR.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 26, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7264813.html

Proffitt confirms they had identified her in advance of the assault, thus corroborating her claim.

But dismisses the assault as nothing more than a bad camera angle.

Posted by: KevinHayden | October 26, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7264948.html

Posted by: KevinHayden | October 26, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The evolution of Joke's posts:

It's a Dem plant ->
It wasn't that bad ->
Lauren Valle = Sirhan Sirhan

That's the same twisted inbred Republican Tea Party "logic" that we've been hearing for months now.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

FOUR in a row! Now who exactly is guilty of thread bombing?! Too bad that "Happy Hour Roundup" will (probably) deal with non-stomping news ...

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Move on, MoveOn!

Look forward!

Posted by: theaz | October 26, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Joke's commenting today is some of the worst, most disgusting things I've read at PL in the over-a-year I've been reading this blog.

I hope he gets counseling.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | October 26, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

LeafofLife:

You would think that it was the 1968 DNC Convention all over again ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"FOUR in a row!"

It's called news.

It's meant for people living in the real world, NOT people like you living in Neoconfederate Lunaticville where racism and violence against women is just great, the President is a secret scary Muslim born in Kenya, and the Constitution doesn't separate church and state.

YOU FAIL JOKE, SCUMBAG.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

ChuckinDenton:

At least I can answer simple questions.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I just want you all to know that I called the Lexington Police - and asked for Lauren Valle's conduct to be investigated as a threat to Rand Paul.

Especially in the light of when she was initially restrained, she continued to charge further.


I also asked them to evaluate the conduct of the crowd - in the light that she may have had a weapon, and there was no way for anyone there to know if she had a weapon or not.


OK?

Are you all happy ???

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

O/T

Hey birthers, this means you JakeD2, leafoflife and those not on this posting yet.

Looks like your hero Alan Keyes is being forced to pay Obama's court fees after his frivolous lawsuit was thrown out.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/appellate-court-dismisses-birther-lawsuit/

That makes two now, Keyes and birther queen Orly Taitz.

You all still want to double down on this? Or are two lawsuits still not enough for you simpletons?

Posted by: mikefromArlington | October 26, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

LeafofLife:

Good job!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Mike, a million failed lawsuits could never fill the hole in their brains/hearts.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 26, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Here's a facebook page someone set up for the guy- interesting associations.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Tim-Profitt-of-Rand-Pauls-Bourbon-County-KY-Staff-Fan-Page/125393104186004

Posted by: DJMonet | October 26, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

mikefromArlington:

As you are aware, I no longer answer your questions to me because you refused to answer my previously-asked question(s) to you. Maybe you should have thought about the consequences earlier.

Does anyone else want to discuss the THREAD TOPIC in a civil manner?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

@Greg

The "shock" thing is legit...many people in minor car accidents think they are fine until the next morning, when their necks/backs are suddenly in serious pain.

Also, I have to say that I'm pretty dissapointed that you would refer to this incident as a "scuffle". This wasn't a scuffle, it was an assault. Saying "she got her head stepped on during a scuffle" really don't do the situation any justice. It wasn't accidental, and she wasn't even really fighting back.

A group of men sprained her arm while forcing her to the ground, then stomped on her head - resulting in a concussion. Don't marginalize it by making it sound like some accident at a rock concert.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | October 26, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Here's a facebook page someone set up for the guy- interesting associations.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Tim-Profitt-of-Rand-Pauls-Bourbon-County-KY-Staff-Fan-Page/125393104186004

Posted by: DJMonet | October 26, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Mike from Arlington

You have no documents to support your position. The document you claim you have is irrelevant because it is the same document given to babies born OUTSIDE the country.

Apparently you do not understand that simple reasoning.

If you were an honest person, you would be asking for Obama to sign a release so the country could see the contents of the secret file in Hawaii.


In addition, your attitude is unjustified.

What will you say when the documents come out and you find out you are wrong. At this point, the most convincing EVIDENCE is the statement by Obama's grandmother who said that SHE SAW OBAMA BEING BORN IN AFRICA.


Are you going to call Obama's grandmother a liar?

Is that what you are saying? Are you saying Obama's grandmother is a liar???


.

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Mike from Arlington

I just fine it a COMPLETE OUTRAGE that you would come on this blog and call Obama's grandmother a liar.

Seriously man, don't you have any respect for Obama and his family???


Calling Obama a liar is OK in my book, but LEAVE HIS FAMILY OUT OF IT.


You are really not a responsible, honest person.

I think you should apologize to the woman.


.

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

It'd be interesting to see someone try to run up to President Obama and struggle to give him an "award." The Secret Service would have that person stomped flat in no time, and no one would challenge them. I wonder if we're going to see more MoveOn types charging at Republican candidates, hoping to provoke the same sort of incident.

Posted by: tomtildrum | October 26, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/preview.aspx?searchtype=people-name&fn=TIMOTHY&mn=&ln=PROFFITT&city=FLORENCE&state=KY&age=43&utm_source=phonebooks&utm_campaign=noresults

Posted by: KevinHayden | October 26, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else want to discuss the THREAD TOPIC in a civil manner?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:38 PM
=====================

Apparently neither you nor STRF want to, based on your complaints about the THREAD TOPIC.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 26, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

LeafofLife, was the birth announcement in a Hawaii paper a coincidence, or was it placed their via time travel when it became clear BO would win office? Or does Occam's Razor tell us that she didn't understand the question? Which one is most likely?

Posted by: cao091402 | October 26, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

LeafofLife:

LOL!!!

Seriously, though, can you make it to the Chicago or Cleveland rallies this weekend? I've got Bridgeport covered!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

ifthetrhunderdontgetya

I called the police in Lexington. And instead of discussing it on this comment board, I asked them to investigate the conduct of Lauren Valle.

She charged Rand Paul. When she was initially restrained, she continued to rush forward.

There is no reason to believe that she did not have a weapon of any kind. No one knew what her intentions were.

Besides, Rand Paul is a Federal candidate, and there might be Federal laws involved here.

Clearly, the people in the crowd have a right to react to someone who is clearly not acting properly. The fact that she failed to comply with requests to stop her charging is further reason for her to be investigated.


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Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I just want you all to know that I called the Lexington Police - and asked for Lauren Valle's conduct to be investigated as a threat to Rand Paul.

Especially in the light of when she was initially restrained, she continued to charge further.


I also asked them to evaluate the conduct of the crowd - in the light that she may have had a weapon, and there was no way for anyone there to know if she had a weapon or not.


OK?

Are you all happy ???

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse
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Yes, let's blame the victim for getting her head stomped in and wrestled to the ground like a criminal for minding her business and exercising her free right to speech.

Posted by: denise4925 | October 26, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

The woman was a known activist. The stomper admitted she was identified well in advance and was surrounded to keep her from Paul. They knew she was there to make a point not to threaten Paul with violence. So all the hypotheticals are making excuses, without merit or a single fact to support them.

The Tea Party is named after an act of protest yet some of its members clearly would use violence to restrict acts of protest.

Real irony, that. And when a group of guys takes down a petite woman and one kicks her, that's called a coward bullying.

Posted by: KevinHayden | October 26, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I believe that Ethan's name calling has gone too far. If Mr Sargent is planning to address comment related issues he certainly should look at Ethan's behavior here.

the ugly name calling simply defines you now Ethan. It is all you have.

Mr Sargent should ban you.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 26, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Translation: It's a whole lot of nothing...

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 4:08 PM

******

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with a group of men grabbing a 23 year old woman who couldn't weigh more than a buck and a quarter, throwing her to the ground, and stomping on her.

Right?

That kind of thing is commonplace for you? Is that how you treat women in your family? If you saw a bunch of guys doing that to your Mom, your sister, or your daughter you would be fine with that? Would that be, "A whole lot of nothing?"

Because I wouldn't be okay with it. But then I'm a man, I don't feel the need to beat women. I'm not so insecure that I beat women to feel better about myself.

Posted by: nisleib | October 26, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

News flash for Crazy Rand -- the issue here is that your thug Teabagger supporters threw a woman to the ground and stomped on her head and you refuse to condemn it. It wasn't a "bit of a crowd control problem," it was an assault. Man up and say it was wrong, Rand!

Posted by: DrainYou | October 26, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

It'd be interesting to see someone try to run up to President Obama and struggle to give him an "award." The Secret Service would have that person stomped flat in no time, and no one would challenge them. I wonder if we're going to see more MoveOn types charging at Republican candidates, hoping to provoke the same sort of incident.

Posted by: tomtildrum | October 26, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse
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LMAO Rand Paul is not the POTUS. Far from it and those goons/thugs attacking that woman were not Secret Service Agents trained to do their job in protecting the President.

Posted by: denise4925 | October 26, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Paul by 6.

Which means 6 more years of Aqua man beats women stories.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | October 26, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

cao091402 at 4:47 PM

Did you actually READ the birth announcement?

Did it say which hospital Obama was born in? NO, it did not.

The birth announcement SIDESTEPPED where Obama was born.

Also, it is unlikely a teenager would put a birth announcement in the paper. The birth announcement was probably written by Obama's maternal grandmother.

ALL the birth announcement give is a US address for the parents.

It DOES not state the actual location of the birth.

NICE TRY, THOUGH.


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Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"Profitt said the fight never would have occurred if police officers had intervened earlier."

Oh, yes, the "I wouldn't have beaten you if the cops had stopped me" defense.

Where do these neanderthals come from?

Posted by: haveaheart | October 26, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Why was this woman wearing a wig?

It was clear that she was acting in a way that was threatening to a Federal candidate.

.

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

You can't say anything against these thugs and not be accused of being abusive. But when they are the abusers, they have a thousand excuses.

This is real, people. This is how Rand Paul handles people who disagree with him. Is this what you want?

Posted by: lurkittyfb | October 26, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Folks,

Let the police and prosecutors handle it. We should not be posting how to find the person or persons, so that people can harass them. That could also turn very ugly. Inciting retaliation is also not acceptable.

No one would love to see Rand Paul lose the election, more than I would, but it is counter intuitive to think that he would have wanted something like this to happen.

Take a deep breath everyone, and let law enforcement deal with the situation.

Stop all the talk about bashing some suspect's head in, to get even. That is dangerous talk. Do unto other's.........

Posted by: Liam-still | October 26, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"This is how Rand Paul handles people who disagree with him."

Ooookaay. Off the deep end we are.

Posted by: sbj3 | October 26, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

nisleib:

No.

DrainYou:

What part of "Rand Paul campaign condemns attack, disowns volunteer" (two threads ago) are you having trouble understanding?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"Let the police and prosecutors handle it. We should not be posting how to find the person or persons, so that people can harass them. That could also turn very ugly. Inciting retaliation is also not acceptable."

Post of the day.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | October 26, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Folks,

Let the police and prosecutors handle it. We should not be posting how to find the person or persons, so that people can harass them. That could also turn very ugly. Inciting retaliation is also not acceptable.

No one would love to see Rand Paul lose the election, more than I would, but it is counter intuitive to think that he would have wanted something like this to happen.

Take a deep breath everyone, and let law enforcement deal with the situation.

Stop all the talk about bashing some suspect's head in, to get even. That is dangerous talk. Do unto other's.........

Posted by: Liam-still | October 26, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Do you notice how the wingnut trolls are trying to turn Rand Paul into the victim?

If you want to know what a GOPer is guilty of look to see what he is blaming on others. They've turned projection from a psychological phenomenon into an art form.

Ironically, one of the knuckle draggers involved was wearing a, "Don't Tread On Me" sticker. Yes, yes, the right to tread on people is a right teabaggers reserve for themselves, we get that now.

Posted by: nisleib | October 26, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Jake

I'm not going to chase Obama around.

He is having difficulty getting people to show up to his rallies anyway.

That is why he started the backyard talks. It appears that the only place Obama can draw a crowd is a college campus or an innercity.

That is embarassing - especially since Obama has such a high bar from 2008 to try to match.

The story from the University of Wisconsin at Madison is that they had to arrange to have a popular band play to get people to the crowd.

Anyway.

This will all be over in a week. I'm sure the liberals will get control of themselves late next week.

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Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

denise4925:

LMAO Barack Obama is not the POTUS either.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Stupid incident - real block head stunt to knock down and step on person. No excuse.
Second block head stunt - trying to "ambush" somebody with an insulting publicity stunt.
And both were 'premeditated'

Posted by: southVAHmptn | October 26, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

@BGinChi: "Lefty commenters: men shouldn't beat up women, and violence at a political rally, especially ganging up on someone who did nothing to deserve it, is wrong. Righty commenters: it's not only ok for men to beat up women, but it should have been worse."

That's just detatched. I like you, BG, but where has anyone been pro beating up on women, or suggested in any way that "it should have been worse"? Because, if it happened, it's obviously not frequent, because I haven't seen it, and you said: "righty commenters" . . .

I mean, how about "righty commentors: nothing to see here, look somewhere else" or "righty commentors: lets talk about something else" or "righty commentors: it didn't really happen, it's a set up, MoveOn staged it", all of which would have been reasonably fair.

Who here has said (other than pretending to quote Republicans) anything like "it's not only ok for men to beat up women, but it should have been worse."

@sbj3: "Ooookaay. Off the deep end we are."

Indeed. Blood in the water, apparently.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 26, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 writes: "Said "cops are treating the case for the time being as a fourth degree assault case, which puts this in the realm of domestic violence, scuffles and barfights"

Translation: It's a whole lot of nothing..."
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Let's stomp on your head, see how you like it. If it had been a Paul SUPPORTER stomped, you'd probably be rounding up the hanging posse yourself.

Posted by: monk4hall | October 26, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

haveaheart:

That's not what Tim Profitt said. What he actually said was “A friend of mine went up to three policeman before Rand got there, and told them about the girl who was standing there with that wig on [Valle] and that she was getting ready to do something.” Indeed, Valle told TPM, “The Rand Paul campaign knows me and they have expressed their distaste for my work before.” The police did not adequately control HER; he's not saying that they failed to control him.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

monk4hall:

I would not consent to either preposterous scenario.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

@kevin: Here's a good analysis/comment:

"The police can and should review the videos to see if a crime was committed, and fortunately the woman was not seriously injured (unlike a Paul supporter who was injured by Jack Conway supporters in an unrelated incident). The Paul campaign immediately criticized the violence on both sides.

"Yet the left-wing blogosphere is engaged in hyperbole by asserting that the woman was "brutally attacked" by "Brownshirts" and extrapolating the incident into a wider indictment of (take your pick) Rand Paul's campaign and/or the Tea Party movement.

"... Unfortunately, people being pushed to the ground while approaching a candidate is not new. Just ask John McCormack who was thrown to the ground by a Martha Coakley campaign staffer last January when McCormack would not stop asking questions (image right).

"... There is tension in the air. People need to step back, on both sides, and not try to take an isolated incident to create a greater political pretext."

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/01/this-photo-may-change-election.html

And to Greg's credit, he has not tried to create a greater political pretext. Some of his liberal commentors, however, have gone off the deep end. But I have to give credit to Liam for his take.

Posted by: sbj3 | October 26, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

This story is worn out already.

Let's Move On!

Posted by: battleground51 | October 26, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

That she-nut a member of the New Philly Panthers?

She'll walk.

All hail the hating MESS-iah!

Posted by: russpoter | October 26, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

sbj3:

If you don't believe that FOUR threads in a row is an attempt "to create a greater political pretext" I don't know what would be. I just want to know who exactly is guilty of thread bombing?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

@Liam-still: "Stop all the talk about bashing some suspect's head in, to get even. That is dangerous talk. Do unto other's........."

Bless you.

"but it is counter intuitive to think that he would have wanted something like this to happen."

Yup. This is not good for him or his campaign, and having his people clearly involved (which is not to say that he told them to do anything they did, but they are clearly people who are big in their support for Rand) is a major negative. And I'm pretty sure Conway will have the good sense to let the incident speak for itself.

Anyhow, I'm kinda of hoping that we can all agree that physical violence is not the answer to our political disagreements and, despite the fact that we may disagree, I'm pretty sure nobody here is Hitler.

May the non-offensive, non-denominational religious deity of your preference bless you accordingly, Liam-still. ;)

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 26, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul is against integration. Using Paul-logic, beating up on negro protesters was just a part of that action and a natural consequence of their protests.

Lauren Valle is against right-wing cracker insanity. Using Paul-logic, beating up on dirty liberal move-on protesters was a part of her action action and a natural consequence of her action.

In Paul's world vision, it appears that the great god Aqua-Buddha is alive and well.

Posted by: chamateddy | October 26, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Mr Sargent will NEVER post this to his blog, so I'll do the work he should do:


An aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid repeatedly lied to federal immigration and FBI agents and submitted false federal documents to the Department of Homeland Security to cover up her illegal seven-year marriage to a Lebanese national who was the subject of an Oklahoma City Joint Terror Task Force investigation."
The story was broken by Fox News and involves Diana Tejada, the Latina press secretary for the embattled Nevada senator who is seeking a fifth term in a tight reelection battle with Republican Sharron Angle.

According to details, seven years ago Tejada fraudulently married a Lebanese national, Bassam Mahmoud Tarhini, to enable him to stay in the United States and avoid military service back home. She admitted to receiving money for doing so.

Court documents show that Tejada, who has worked for Reid for the past two years, knowingly filed false documents with Homeland Security, lied on multiple occasions to FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and submitted false marriage and immigration documents.

Earlier this year the Lebanese, who was being investigated by a joint terrorism task force, was deported. But for her part, Tejada was not charged with anything. A Justice Department official declined to explain how the aide to the top senator in Congress went uncharged for perjury, among other crimes.

gosh, will you look at that. some one on Mr Reid's staff lied to the FBI but not a whisper from the liberal media outlets. Who could blame them? Yaking about Rand Paul, who has his race all but sewn up, just feels so much better than actually reporting news that might be of interest to readers.

I wonder how this aid to Mr Reid avoided charges. And I wonder how much she was paid for the sham marriage. And I wounder who paid her. And I wonder why her "husband" is being investigated by the terror task force.

Yo, liberals, care to guess?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | October 26, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2,

Why not give the entire quotation? You left out the beginning:

"Profitt said the fight never would have occurred if police officers had intervened earlier."

He was blaming an incident -- in which HE stomped on a woman's head and caused her to have a concussion -- on the refusal of police to grab some woman HE claimed was dangerous.

Because the police would not intervene where absolutely no crime had been committed, Profitt went ahead and committed one.

How, exactly, would you have the police "adequately control HER"? She's standing there, doing nothing; what's to control?

Posted by: haveaheart | October 26, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

@Jake: "If you don't believe that FOUR threads in a row is an attempt "to create a greater political pretext"

I think it is Greg trying to capitalize on a bit of "news" to get some hits. Sort of like FNC hiring Juan Williams after NPR fired him.

Posted by: sbj3 | October 26, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

cf. carpet-bombing = dropping as many bombs as possible; overkill

I agree with battleground51: Let's Move On! (no pun intended ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

All this makes me happy to live in a State where the Senate race has been conducted in a civil manner. I doubt either the incumbent or the challenger travels with "security."

Now, can I please have the political ads off the TV for the World Series? Give me the Budweiser Clydesdales, not what the Clydesdales leave behind.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 26, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

MoveOn.org needs to be investigated to see if this attack on Rand Paul was premeditated.

What were the woman's intentions if she got next to Rand Paul?

The democrats are not being honest about those questions here. We have an outside group (which used to take undisclosed money) sparking an incident with a Federal candidate.

/

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

You think a little head-stomping is bad?

Wait until 2012 elections.

Civil War 2 starts January, 2013.

Posted by: pmendez | October 26, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

To those who were talking about a Newsweek poll yesterday


A new Harris Poll is out:


President Obama is spending the next week crisscrossing the country in support of Democratic candidates before this year's midterm elections. While the president may do a great job of energizing the base, he may not be able to convert any Independents who have yet to decide for whom they will vote. Currently, two-thirds of Americans (67%) have a negative opinion of the job President Obama is doing while just over one-third (37%) have a positive opinion. This continues the president's downward trend and he is now at the lowest job approval rating of his presidency.


Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

think it is Greg trying to capitalize on a bit of "news" to get some hits. Sort of like FNC hiring Juan Williams after NPR fired him.

Posted by: sbj3 | October 26, 2010 5:21 PM

******

Actually if you go to the Postpolitics home page Greg seems to be the point guy on this story for the Washington Post. It, therefore, makes sense that he is doing his best to keep on top of all of the stories details.

Posted by: nisleib | October 26, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Just we have come to expect from teabaggers, violent racists that want their only outcome not the truth. If you try and join in free speech they will do anything and say anything to stay their course even if it means blatant lying and assault. This is not what America is about. What happened to the Constitution? Oh yeah the Cheney/bush administration flushed it down the toilet. Members of the real tea party must be spinning in their graves.

Posted by: theplaintruth1 | October 26, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

@sbj3: "And to Greg's credit, he has not tried to create a greater political pretext. Some of his liberal commentors, however, have gone off the deep end. But I have to give credit to Liam for his take."

As do I. And regarding the 4 posts in a row and pretext (re: Jakes later reply), Greg has a job and it's to get hits, and this story is big right now, especially among progressives, and he is a progressive blogger. I don't fault Greg for reporting the story, or even for hammering events as they happened, or as new stuff comes out.

Like you, the "brownshirts" and "this is how Republicans are" stuff--from folks who would object to such extrapolations being made about Muslims, illegal immigrants, or themselves--is a bit beyond the pail, to me. I'm glad Greg isn't doing it and reasonable folks like Liam-still are keeping their wits about them.

Damning an entire class of people for the actions of a small minority of them is probably not going to lead to dialogue. All I'm sayin'.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | October 26, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Joe Palladino threatens to "take out" a reporter

Christine O'Donnell's security shoves a reporter into a chair
(http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20101022/OPINION11/10220306/1004/OPINION)

Joe Miller's thugs handcuff a reporter

Now this -- a Rand Paul supporter stomping a woman on the ground.

Yeah, no, I can see why they get upset when they're called violent.

Posted by: monk4hall | October 26, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Whatever your politics are, you should be appalled by this. Rand Paul's supporters knew who she was. They knew she was there to be an agitator & an annoyance. If she was a threat, the police would have intervened. But, Paul's supporters seem to confuse potential embarrassment of their candidate with a physical threat.

Posted by: Uncle_Joe | October 26, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

haveaheart:

That's not a quotation, but rather a PARAPHRASE. Let me know if you really don't understand the difference.

You obviously have not read all of the reports, because even she admits that she wasn't just standing there quietly (I will note that Lee Harvey Oswald DID just stand at the Texas Schoolbook Depository window, quietly, waiting for the Kennedy motorcade too ; )

Were I the police getting those types of reports, I would have attempted to discreetly move her into a different area in order to question what her intentions were as to the Republican candidate for federal office. If she happened to miss Mr. Paul's entire appearance, too bad.

Next question?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama goes off and tries to Nationalize the election again.

What is wrong with him? This is like a quarterback throwing an unforced interception


_________________________________

"My name may not be on the ballot, but our agenda for moving forward is on the ballot, and I need everybody to turn out," Obama said Tuesday afternoon during an appearance on the Rev. Al Sharpton's radio show.

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

So, JakeD2 thinks domestic assaults are "a whole lot of nothing..."

Kind of tells you everything you need to know about him, doesn't it?

Posted by: AHermit | October 26, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

The women is appearing on Countdown with Olbermann tonight. Lots of media appearances for someone that supposed to be badly injured.

Posted by: johnyt1977 | October 26, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

You think a little head-stomping is bad?

Wait until 2012 elections.

Civil War 2 starts January, 2013.

Posted by: pmendez | October 26, 2010 5:24 PM
______________________________________

WHAT does that mean???


Can you be more specific???


Are you threatening a civil war if Obama is not re-elected ???

OR that the democrats will not respect the results of the 2012 election?


The democrats have DISRESPECTED the wishes of the American People enough this year.

Are you saying this attitude will continue?

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

So is a vote for Rand Paul a vote for kicking women in the face? snark/

And will Paul continue giving stump speeches, or will he start giving stomp speeches? snark/snark

Posted by: nisleib | October 26, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

As I said early on in the day...

NO AMOUNT OF NEOCONFEDERATE INGRATE WHINING changes the fact that Rand Paul's GOONS and THUGS stomped on the head of a young defenseless woman who was only protesting as is her right under the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.

Joke = FAIL
SavetheIgnorant = FAIL
Skippy = FAIL
peebaggermendez = FAIL
Clawbrain = FAIL
SBJ = FAIL
theaz = FAIL

Violence against women is ALWAYS BAD.

You people FAIL at LIFE.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Ethan

After your calls for banning people.

NOW suddenly you are supporting Freedom of Speech.

Interesting.


However, people do not have the right to charge at candidates - especially when people there do not know if that person is armed with a weapon or not.

These rallies get nasty enough. We don't need people rushing at candidates. When the woman was initially restrained, she should not have pushed forward some more.

She became a real threat at that point, the way she was struggling with everyone in the crowd.

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 26, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010 - You have to admit that watching the Plum Line's wingnut trolls try to defend this heinous bullsh*t has been a tad funny, and at the same time totally pathetic.

Oh, it was a liberal conspiracy! She was rushing at Rand Paul! It was Democrats that attacked her while pretending to be Paul supporters!

And on and on.

Notice how they keep trying to be the victims? I'm starting to think GOPers are allergic to personal responsibility.

Posted by: nisleib | October 26, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

STRF wrote: I just want you all to know that I called the Lexington Police - and asked for Lauren Valle's conduct to be investigated as a threat to Rand Paul.

OK?

Are you all happy ???
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I am SOOOO happy you did this. They have your number now. Bwahahahaha!!!!! Which round file did that complaint get filed?

Hey, on second thought, maybe they'll send a special detective to your secret bunker location, interview you, take your picture, and run a 30 minute spot on TV on your astute take on the assassination attempt on Rand Paul.

Paul ought to hire YOU to replace his Bourbon County Coordinator. You got the instincts, that's for sure.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 26, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

A Liberal worker from Washington DC who works for MoveOn is dressed with a wig and approaches Paul with a unidentified object in her hand in the state of Kentucky. What in the hell does she expect to happen?

Posted by: CarolinaMike | October 26, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh, Loesch join chorus blaming MoveOn for activist beating

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010260038
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 26, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"Are you threatening a civil war if Obama is not re-elected ???"

Good grief...if you actually paid attention occasionally, the jack*** you're replying to is a wingnut like you. He pops up occasionally to spew his ugly bile and then disappears back underneath his rock.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | October 26, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

nisleib, yeah, the victim complex.

Again, they FAIL at life.

I think this whole episode is pitiful and sad -- I don't find it funny at all actually -- but even more importantly, it is emblematic of a distinct pattern of behavior by the Tea Party people and Republican Tea Party candidates for the last 2 years.

These people are ignorant, despicable people who literally want to destroy the Constitution and up-end fundamental beliefs that have been held since the founding of the country.

This episode is clearly the worst thing to happen to this country since George W. Bush lied us into the pre-meditated and catastrophic Iraq War.

At least by associating themselves with the Tea Party and Republicans, like Mike Pence, who oppose compromise, we can clearly discern who exactly are the domestic enemies of the United States. They MUST be stopped if this country is to have a prosperous, stable future as the beacon of freedom and economic opportunity for the world, as we have been for more than two centuries.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"These rallies get nasty enough. We don't need people rushing at candidates. When the woman was initially restrained, she should not have pushed forward some more.

She became a real threat at that point, the way she was struggling with everyone in the crowd."

Unless it was event security who were attempting to restrain her, no one should have laid a hand on her.

And let's face it, no one from MoveOn is a threat to anything.

Posted by: gamz247 | October 26, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

In Kentucky, scientists have successfully merged the pig and human genomes to create a new beast, the Kentucky yellow pig-person.

Posted by: johng1 | October 26, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

What in the hell does she expect to happen?

Posted by: CarolinaMike | October 26, 2010 5:50 PM
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If you mean violence, you've damned your fellow wing-nuts from Kentucky with the soft bigotry of low expectations, CarolinaMike.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | October 26, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"That's not a quotation, but rather a PARAPHRASE. Let me know if you really don't understand the difference."

JakeD2,

No, it's not a paraphrase, it's a quotation from Roger Alford's article, in which he paraphrased Profitt's comment. Had he been quoting Profitt, I would have put single quotation marks inside the double quotation marks. (Let me know if you don't understand how quotation marks work -- or, for that matter, any other punctuation that confounds you. I've been an academic book editor for 20+ years, so I can assure you that I am well qualified to explain anything you're not clear on.)

Further, note that I did not say "Profitt's quotation"; I said "the quotation." Reading carefully for comprehension before engaging your keyboard is always a wise path.

Finally, "were [you] the police getting those types of reports," if you had, in fact, "attempted to discreetly move her into a different area in order to question what her intentions were as to the Republican candidate for federal office," you would have significantly exceeded your legal authority and been subject to disciplinary action.

It doesn't matter what she was planning; if she hadn't actually committed an illegal act, they would have had no reason to have approached her at all.

Isn't that what all you tea-bagger types want? More "liberty"; less law enforcement intervention?

Posted by: haveaheart | October 26, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Here's the deal seminars, your outrage is misplaced, for several reasons, and by any standard. When y'all assemble at dawn, bring your Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Michelle Bachman, Meg Whitman, etc. voodoo dolls and your foot-lockers full of slings and arrows, strike a match on one of your pin-heads, and burn the whole pile of wicked icons, we will buy into your great compassion for anybody but yourselves. Until then you are all a pack of NAG's NOW, red-neck baiting, fish-wives on steroids. No Meds, no Creds, maybe you need a spot of tea...

Posted by: SpendNomore | October 26, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse"

Hilarious if written by one of our conservatives using Ethan's name.

Unintentionally hilarious if actually written by Ethan.

Posted by: sbj3 | October 26, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Four straight threads on this one topic.

Interesting.

Like there is no other issue in the nation. Is it this apparent that the democrats have ZERO issues on this side this year?

How about an economic plan???


The stimulus clearly did not work. So what are the democrats NOW proposing. They are asking to be in office for two more years - WHAT are they going to do about the economy over those two years?


.

Posted by: LeafofLife |

Lea, I'm with you. I would love to hear Rand Pauls economic plan. Or Christine O'Donnell's. Or Sarah Palin's. Or Michael Steele's. Or any Repbulican's or Tea'er's for that matter.

Posted by: arancia12 | October 26, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Great. Brownshirts. Just what we need.

Posted by: CalD | October 26, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

sbj3:

I'd much rather have Dems post here about this nonsense than actually out knocking door-to-door trying to GOTV ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Apparently there is one big difference between Rand Paul and the Right wing apologists on this blog.

Paul immediately realized what a bad thing the assault was and disowned his county coordinator. He made no attempt to defend the indefensible.

But the Right wing doesn't see anything wrong with the tactics of Ernst Rohm, or Benito Mussolini.

There does seem to be a dearth of T-Party Spokesmen distancing the Tea party from the behavior of this low level applicant for a job with the T-Party's Stasi. Or from Millers manhandlers.

Is there any behavior by T-People at T-Gatherings that the T-Party might find unacceptable?

So far, the answer is a resounding no.

Posted by: ceflynline | October 26, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Yes Jake, you baggers much prefer sitting on your duffs to doing anything...unless it's beating up a girl.

Posted by: arancia12 | October 26, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

(Let me know if you don't understand how quotation marks work -- or, for that matter, any other punctuation that confounds you. I've been an academic book editor for 20+ years, so I can assure you that I am well qualified to explain anything you're not clear on.)
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@haveaheart,

You have unintentionally poked at the King of Sophistry. He probably considers punctuation as one of his unique talents.

I am pulling up the lawn chairs and selling tickets to see you and the King of Sophistry go at it. I'm putting my money on you.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 26, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

All, Happy Hour Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/happy_hour_roundup_116.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 26, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Kindly mark my words, if the reps make gains, they will wreck a havoc on America exactly like this cruel violence.

I do believe we have no room to repeat a mistake once more.

Posted by: hsr06011 | October 26, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

CarolinaMike-

You are kidding, right?

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | October 26, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

In Kentucky, scientists have successfully merged the pig and human genomes to create a new beast, the Kentucky yellow pig-person.

Posted by: johng1
______________________

You're probably right.

‎"American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains." Christine O'Donnell

Why not pigs?

Posted by: arancia12 | October 26, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010 said: "
we can clearly discern who exactly are the domestic enemies of the United States. They MUST be stopped if this country is to have a prosperous, stable future as the beacon of freedom and economic opportunity for the world, as we have been for more than two centuries."

Now this is interesting. What do you think should be done with these "domestic enemies of the United States"? Haw far are you willing to go so that "They MUST be stopped" is realized?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | October 26, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Disturbance of the peace is a misdemeanor, and common law citizens arrest should be upheld...disturbance of an election event could be considered a hate America Crime and a roughed-up assault perpetrator should be held to higher standards. Did anybody ask the mutilated truck driver at the Rodney King Riot if he preferred a hate crime beating or just a good old Wrong Guy in the right place for the collectivist activist camera? Get over it Bat Boys, the paradigm shifts, credit where credit is due, and a keister whompin' when call for. Lovingly administered of course.

Posted by: SpendNomore | October 26, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

First of all, I in no way condone violence, and I am not defending Proffit's behavior.

But could he have thought that she was a man? At first glance I sure thought she was, and perhaps he wouldn't have roughed her up if he had realized she was a woman.

It didn't appear that he was stomping her head but her upper shoulder and back. Still not very nice, but not as bad as she was claiming. Of course we didn't see what happened before this.

And did I see her sporting a bleach blonde wig that got ripped off? And her sign says something about "Republicorporate".

I feel sorry for her. Another disnfranchised angry "progressive" who doesn't appear to be very happy.

Posted by: RambleOn | October 26, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

haveaheart:

You did not say Profitt's quotation, nor Alford's quotation, so I was not the one responsible for any confusion. You are also mistaken about Kentucky law covering law enforcement detaining someone in order to ascertain their own safety (let alone the safety of the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate). I want PROPER law enforcement intervention, regardless of whether that's "more" or "less". While you are part of the grammar police, I was actually part of the Citizens' Review Board on Police Practices for 10 years in San Diego, California. So I know what I'm talking about too ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Please don't judge all of us who live in Kentucky by the ignorant people who support Rand Paul,there are thousands of us who can't stand that nitwit.

Posted by: LDTRPT25 | October 26, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

"What do you think should be done with these 'domestic enemies of the United States'?"

They must not be elected into office.

Any that commit crimes must be held accountable.

"Haw far are you willing to go so that 'They MUST be stopped' is realized?"

I am willing to vote and put my faith in law enforcement.

I am not a goon or a thug bent on destroying America, like you are.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Question: When is it ever appropriate to tie a woman up and force her to bow down to Aqua Buda? When is it ever appropriate to push a woman down and force her head to the curb so it can be stepped on?

Answer: To Rand Paul supporters, anytime is fine. All of it is fine. Take a look America. These are the Tea Party rules.

Posted by: freedomgirl1 | October 26, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Damning an entire class of people for the actions of a small minority of them is probably not going to lead to dialogue. All I'm sayin'.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis

Agreed Kevin. What is frightening though is the incredible amount of hate and it's right here on this blog. It's hard to read posts from STRF/Jake/Battleground/NoVahockey/Brigade and realize that these hateful people are loose in our society.

Nobody ever thinks of you when this happens Kevin...nor tao...nor Scott..and as much distaste I might have for Q.B..I know that he is not like this either. Nor Troll and certainly not somebody as sensible as SBJ. We don't wish to tar you all with a broad brush.
I don't believe the TParty is racist! But I do believe they have a significant% who are racist! According that survey the other day about 10%...sounds like a reasonable number to me and so yes Kevin we should refrain from smearing the other 90% because of the 10% The same is true for the violent wack jobs...but the media is an epic fail here...and I mean EPIC FAIL...people from Fox/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN ALL of them. When morons come to rallies with weapons that are locked and loaded and talk about watering the tree of liberty...this should not be reported as...wow these people are upset...they should tell the freaking truth...people who bring locked and loaded firearms to a rally are unhinged sociopaths...when they brag about possibly turning them on someone...they should be pointed out for the dangerous TRAITORS they are to America.
These people do not represent American values or the Constitution. They should be housed in mental institutions for their psychopathic behavior.

THERE IS SIMPLY NO REASON FOR THREE OR MORE MEN TO THROW A SMALL DEFENSELESS UNARMED WOMAN TO THE GROUND!!!!

There can be no false equivalency here. This is simply WRONG. No it's not everyone on the right...it's not all Republicans...it's not all TPers...
but let's use a little Bill O'Reilly logic here....all R's, TPers, righties are not violent wingnuts...but ALL violent wingnuts are republican, tea bagging right wingNUTS.

It's one thing to call somebody names..idiots..arse..whatever..that's rude behavior...but it reveals the psychology of more than a few posters here when they speak in terms of...not when the R's win the election...but when they TAKE OVER...
Words have meaning..and provide us insight...when they TAKE OVER..when a poster says stuff like...TPers won't be visiting liberal neighborhoods unless they want their knobs polished or their boots licked....SERIOUSLY KEVIN...boots licked...that's not simply insulting..it shows how sick the poster was who thinks like that...that is an achievement? Forcing someone to lick your boots? Perhaps that's what the Paul sympathizers had in mind...they were simply bringing one of our posters fantasies to life and making that lady lick their boots. WHO THINKS LIKE THAT...IT'S SICK!!!!!

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 26, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

arancia12, not another Jack-Wagon full of Crat-Scrim, how many belfreys out there tonight?

Posted by: SpendNomore | October 26, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010 said: "I am not a goon or a thug bent on destroying America, like you are."

Now that's even more interesting. What are your definitions for "goon" and "thug"? What makes you think I am one? What am I doing that is "destroying America"?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | October 26, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"What am I doing that is "destroying America"?"

Now that's interesting.

How do you not understand that the Republican Tea Party that you wholeheartedly support are bent on destroying America?

It's pretty obvious. But you don't understand.

How... um... interesting.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

"I am pulling up the lawn chairs and selling tickets to see you and the King of Sophistry go at it. I'm putting my money on you."

12Bar --

LOL. Thanks for the vote of confidence!

Sorry to say, though, that I'm finished with Jake. He's waaaay too tedious to expend effort on. :>)

Cheers!

Posted by: haveaheart | October 26, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

What could be frightening rukidding, is that it only took 7 of y'all typing randomly on a keyboard to come up with an essay that looks perfectly reasonable until one wastes, time, energy, oxygen to try an penatrate that dense place between y'all's ears.

Think if Obamameanyjihad had appointed Michael MOOre to a Cabinet Position, oh maybe Twinkie Czar or sumthin', would we be seeing this kind of UnCivil obedience on steroids still?

Guess if we had quick built a Mosque at the top of Tower I, the very first sign Islamofacists expressed their repulsion for our lazy, freedom laced society and set up a sharria court there, we wouldn't be having this discussion now?

Here is the memo y'all must have missed:

WE are S 'n D'ned 'T' off about being told BY OUR OWN LEADERS, among others, to tolerate the intolerable, to understand the inscrutable, to suck it up and ask for more in OUR own Nation. Now that is FREE SPEECH, and it isn't for sale, compromise, or negotiation. WE have turned OUR last cheek and it's about time WE smacked a few keisters for the Gipper, man. No disrespect, No anger you understand?

Posted by: SpendNomore | October 26, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010: "How do you not understand that the Republican Tea Party that you wholeheartedly support are bent on destroying America?"

What are us Teabaggers doing, aside from supporting candidates that they agree with (or agree with them) that is "destroying America"? Your not suggesting that supporting candidates running for office is equal to "destroying America"? Isn't that what America is about? A political process that involves citizens of our country?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | October 26, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Teabagging violence against women... big surprise.

Posted by: wideblacksky | October 26, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE TEA PARTY I'LL SIMPLY STOMP ON YOUR HEAD

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/212942/TIM-PROFITT.jpg

Rand Paul hugging Tim Profitt

Were the British that rash?

Posted by: waxtraxs | October 26, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Aw, how sad for me. That's too bad that "haveaheart" is done with me, just when it was getting good. I guess we all know who won that round.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I live in Lexington but unfortunately was traveling back to the city because otherwise I would have been there.

Kentucky has the most guns per person in the country. It's AMAZING all hell didn't break loose during this event. From the video Ms Valle is incredibly lucky she wasn't injured any worse. THAT would have been a nightmare for Paul, Move-on, Conway, Kentucky, but most importantly Ms Valle.

I do not condone violence of any sort.

I am always amazed at the extreme level of force that can be used by police in the apprehension of someone, sometimes necessary. I have seen on television over & over someone who has been subdued & then there is further unnecessary subjection.

From the video of Ms Valle once she was forced to the ground & her head was lying perched on the curb it was obvious she was no longer an implied "threat" to Paul. Mr Proffitt's further unnecessary subjection of Ms Valle was a travesty.

I'm wondering if there was any communication between the coordinator of the Paul supporters in the parking lot over the rising agitation & Paul's retinue who was with him prior to his arrival at the debate.

This goes for Conway's supporters as well.

And the Lexington police who were on hand & have experience with all kinds of crowds. After all, the previous weekend there were 2 brawls early Sunday morning that sent 12 people to the hospital, UK homecoming & Keeneland. Lexington had also just hosted 16 days of the World Equestrian Games.

As we near the end of this election cycle emotions have been rising across the country. People on all sides of the political spectrum, especially the candidates & Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS & their ilk, are escalating the rhetoric to an hysterical level.

I just hope those who have heard to lock & load even in defeat take a deep breath & "play the tape out." This type of extreme violence could wreck the country but most importantly their family. For what? How would a violent act such as this possibly help their family?

Posted by: Parsley1 | October 26, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

"What are us Teabaggers doing, aside from supporting candidates that they agree with (or agree with them) that is "destroying America"?"

See?

You don't get it.

Interesting.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 26, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010: "See?

You don't get it.

Interesting."

Exactly. I'm trying to understand how supporting candidates and voting is equal to "destroying America."

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | October 26, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Lil Tim. Lil Rand. Stupid boys. Don't you know that there are cameras everywhere, and there have been since the civil rights movement. Maybe you missed that movement, but cameras are an excellent tool to use against thugs. Lil Rand has washed his hands of you, Lil Tim. You better get a good lawyer fast.

Posted by: rusty3 | October 26, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

It appears that the person doing the baiting was Lauren Valle.

There's no excuse for physical violence, but I can understand how someone would become annoyed at Lauren, playing some kind of weasel game at a political event.

The move on types are a little out of control.

Posted by: postfan1 | October 26, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

TrollMcWingnut:

I think it's pretty clear they think that voting for "teabaggers" is the same as (or worse than) voting for Hitler himself. In four years, when America is still standing, they will use the same line against the next Republican candidates too ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 26, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party is a bunch of hot air. They wave amendment rights and constitution when their first amendment rights are threatened. But then when they don't agree with someone they step on their head. Why on earth would anyone think a Tea Party funded by all the people that funded Bush, won't start stupid wars and start spending money the moment after they are inaugurated.

Posted by: WestOfTheMississippi | October 26, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

While this artfully staged political street theater was taking place another anti-Rand Paul demonstrator found a Republican woman who'd just had foot surgery and had a large surgical booty on her foot and he stomped it opening up the wound.

So, whatever story the gal in red is telling, she's part of this other attack.

I think it's quite reasonable for the folks there to have feared her use of a weapon ~ maybe a bomb.

They were actually pretty brave getting that close to her.

Thank goodness none of the Democrats circling the crowd got a chance to eat any fingers this time.

Posted by: muawiyah | October 26, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Imagine what the Tea Party would have done to her if she were brown skinned? CSI would have been all over that scene...

Posted by: waxtraxs | October 26, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Profitt said the scuffle was not as bad as it looked and blamed police for not intervening.
Profitt said the fight never would have occurred if police officers had intervened earlier."

WOW! Now it's the police's fault for this guy stepping on a woman's head?
Like all republicans he refuses to accept responsibility.

At least Jo miller's goons had the sense to handcuff their victim instead of beating the reporter up.

Posted by: knjincvc | October 26, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I think the thug who stomped on the woman's back and neck should face criminal charges. It was an assault.

Posted by: MNUSA | October 26, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

aging, fat, slob with 800 guns at home exercises violence upon someone who clearly cant fight back...Tea Baggers unite

Posted by: divi3 | October 26, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I really had to laugh when I read Ethan2010 say, "This episode is clearly the worst thing to happen to this country since George W. Bush lied us into the pre-meditated and catastrophic Iraq War." By that line of reasoning the attack of LA Gov. Bobby Jindal's aide by Progressive thugs, which broke her femur in five places, must have been the worst thing to happen since the Black Death ravaged Europe.

Posted by: blackfire64 | October 26, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

She didn't deserve to be assaulted, but she clearly was attempting to provoke a negative reaction. She got exactly what she wanted - she wasn't really injured and she got a great photo op.

I'm wondering when the Post will have any stories about Kenneth Gladney getting beat up by SEIU members in Missouri, or the dude in California that got his fingertip bit off by some Democrat thug, or Andrew Breitbart having homophobic slurs yelled at him by a Democratic party functionary in Chicago.

Posted by: Peejay | October 26, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul ties up his girl friend and Paul's aide stomps on a girl's neck. Is America starving for ruffians? America deserves him if Rand Paul gets elected.

Posted by: Realist17 | October 26, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse


She asked for it!

In today's politicized climate- how was anyone to know that she wasn't some kind of Squeaky Fromme immitator?

In other environments- security would have probably shot her.

Besides- if one looks at the video carefully- it's obvious the guy was not stomping on her but rather holding her in place- of course- one can also see his foot slipping upwards closer to her face.

A stomping would have ended her up in hospital.

Posted by: RudeIsraeli | October 26, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse


How do you "fire" a volunteer?


Posted by: mortified469 | October 26, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

There was no assault. The gentleman was merely trying to keep the ugly cow from moveon. org from floating away on a dreamy cloud of hope and change. What a nice guy!

Posted by: carlbatey | October 26, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

There were obviously more than one person involved with this assault besides the guy who stomped on her head. Some one was holding her head to the ground. Another was pulling off the wig. Nice group of right wing thugs.

Posted by: timothy2me | October 26, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"That's just detatched. I like you, BG, but where has anyone been pro beating up on women, or suggested in any way that "it should have been worse"? Because, if it happened, it's obviously not frequent, because I haven't seen it, and you said: "righty commenters" . ."

Oh, how about right here on this section of this blog.

I notice, Kevin, that in all your commentary, one thing is missing.

You don't seem to have condemned the stomper.

"Oh, its such a bad thing, I can't just stand around and watch, so I'll go home and condemn the people who declare that this is somehow related to the tea party.

SILENCE GIVES ASSENT

Posted by: ceflynline | October 26, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm stunned that anyone would defend such behavior.

Posted by: atravsky | October 26, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

She is a member of MoveOn.org the sleazy Democratic group that brought us such vicious campaigns as the "General Betrayus" commercials (although they don't seem to have a problem with Petraeus now).

While I deplore the violence done to her it is time to put an end to these vicious, sleazy, propaganda groups.

If any one wonders why there is no civility in politics anymore they need only read a few of MoveOn.org's ads. Its time for the Democratic Party to disassociate themselves from this group.

Posted by: krankyman | October 26, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Kicking someone in the head with shoes on is considered assault with a deadly weapon in most states. People routinely go to prison for such things.

Posted by: CalD | October 26, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

krankyman: Somehow I don't see you as a democrat. Could you perhaps talk to YOUR side in the problem and ask THEM to disassociate themselves yadah yadah yadah.

Set the example. Maybe someone will follow you.

Posted by: ceflynline | October 26, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Greg: This column was not something for posterity. It took a lot of effort to control my gag reflex to try to defend concepts that Most people on most days would take as axiomatic.

It isn't particularly anyone's fault that this mob formed on this thread, but To comment you have to read and some of this stuff is verging on pornographic.

I think I need to retire to some place where humanity dominates.

Posted by: ceflynline | October 26, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's just me but I (1) didn't see a stomp, (2) didn't see the foot on the head or face.

It looked to me that he held her down by putting his foot on her shoulder. Am I the only one who bothered to watch the video?

Posted by: steve1231 | October 26, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Police automatically reduce things to 4th degree assault (so they can avoid any further paperwork), even if it involves someone kicking in your door and beating you with a bat. It is entirely up to the victim to show up at the police station with a lawyer to force them to find the file which is always "lost." They won't say "No," thay claim it's "lost."

The question here is why did the Rand Paul campaign conceal the identities of the attackers even though they obviously knew who the attackers were?

Posted by: BurfordHolly | October 26, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Tim Profitt will be better off in jail getting punked. Now that he’s identified, if out on the street he’ll be getting his @$$ beat on a daily basis by REAL MEN who find his actions deplorable. I would have given anything to be there in that debate crowd as Profitt had his size 12 on Lauren Valle’s neck. I’d of knocked that bad boy down and gave him a taste. I was thinking of opening a glue factory in Kentucky but now that I see so many of Kentuckians are such craven, ignorant losers I think I’ll move it to New York

Posted by: SPO1 | October 26, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Tim Profitt says he suffers from severe back problems (He's a CRIPPLE guys ~ probably even gets one of those parking tags) so he couldn't use his arms to hold the woman who had REPEATEDLY tried to attack Rand-Pal.

Hence, the use of his foot to kind of keep her down.

Looking over the video several times I didn't see him hurt the woman ~ just another crippled guy without full use of his upper torso doing his best to protect a guy running for Congress.

All sounds quite reasonable.

Now, to find some charges to lay on that ol'gal that keeps her in prison for a few years. Shouldn't take long.

Maybe harrassing cripples, that'd be one ~ definitely a NON PC sort of thing, but so typical of Democrats.

Posted by: muawiyah | October 26, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Katherine Willey SEXUALLY ASSAULTED by Democrat President. Obama cumslurper Greg Sargent SILENT.

Former Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy COMMITS MURDER at Chappaquiddick. Obama cumslurper Greg Sargent SILENT.

Democrat Congressman Barney Frank has a GAY PROSTITUTION RING running out of his basement. Obama cumslurper Greg Sargent SILENT.

Greg, you are knee-padding DNC wussy.

Posted by: ugottabkiddin | October 26, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"Valle has worked as an activist for several groups, including Greenpeace and was arrested with 6 others on felony charges in May in Louisiana for defacing a drilling boat following the gulf oil spill.

In August of 2008, a Lauren Valle was also one of 5 members of 'Students for a Free Tibet' detained in Beijing, China for unfurling a "Free Tibet" banner in Olympic park".

So the woman's a nasty felon. She might well have been a danger to the peace and safety of those around her. She certainly proves from her past actions that she doesn't respect private property or the livelihood of others.

I can't get worked up over this particular victim.

Posted by: EowynR | October 26, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

"Valle has worked as an activist for several groups, including Greenpeace and was arrested with 6 others on felony charges in May in Louisiana for defacing a drilling boat following the gulf oil spill.

In August of 2008, a Lauren Valle was also one of 5 members of 'Students for a Free Tibet' detained in Beijing, China for unfurling a "Free Tibet" banner in Olympic park".

So the woman's a nasty felon. She might well have been a danger to the peace and safety of those around her. She certainly proves from her past actions that she doesn't respect private property or the livelihood of others.

I can't get worked up over this particular victim.

Posted by: EowynR | October 26, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

The woman "stomped" at the Paul Rand Rally is none other than Lauren Valle, a notorious Greenpeace militant and environmental extremist, and the one who was trying to physically shove her way through a crowd of Rand Paul supporters. Valle was there with the specific purpose of physically provoking these Rand Paul supporters.

Look at the video closely. The “stomping” claim is a lie. And that’s the reason the police are treating it as a fourth degree assault case – much ado about nothing.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | October 26, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

"Valle has worked as an activist for several groups, including Greenpeace and was arrested with 6 others on felony charges in May in Louisiana for defacing a drilling boat following the gulf oil spill.

In August of 2008, a Lauren Valle was also one of 5 members of 'Students for a Free Tibet' detained in Beijing, China for unfurling a "Free Tibet" banner in Olympic park".

So the woman's a nasty felon. She might well have been a danger to the peace and safety of those around her. She certainly proves from her past actions that she doesn't respect private property or the livelihood of others.

I can't get worked up over this particular victim.

Posted by: EowynR | October 26, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

The woman "stomped" at the Paul Rand Rally is none other than Lauren Valle, a notorious Greenpeace militant and environmental extremist, and the one who was trying to physically shove her way through a crowd of Rand Paul supporters. Valle was there with the specific purpose of physically provoking these Rand Paul supporters.

Look at the video closely. The “stomping” claim is a lie. And that’s the reason the police are treating it as a fourth degree assault case – much ado about nothing.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | October 26, 2010 11:13 PM


LOL, you two. You say "activist" like it's a dirty word. What do you think the original Boston Tea Party participants were? And were they "respecting private property" when they boarded someone else's boat and tossed its contents into the water? When did standing silently by while multinational corporations take over our government become the American Way?

The best part is, you criticize this particular activist unfurling a "Free Tibet" sign in China. When did you begin supporting communism? Shouldn't you be proud to support free speech, unlike those Chinese communists who will arrest you for disagreeing with them? Whose side are you on, anyway?

Me, I support our right to protest. Supposedly our military is overseas defending this right...maybe they should be in Kentucky instead.

Posted by: USConstitution1 | October 27, 2010 1:51 AM | Report abuse

I watched the incident on video and
I have never seen a case of such
cowardliness in a so-called man:

How any man can still call himself
a man after brutalizing a defenceless
girl like that is beyond me!

This bum should be given a couple of
years in prison for staging such an
ugly attack on a woman--And, as for the
other so-called "men" who watched this
assault and stood by without busting
this bum's face up... they're clearly on
record as just as miserable a bunch of
unmanly cowards as that perpetrator
himself.

S D Rodrian
http://sdrodrian.com


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Posted by: sdr1 | October 27, 2010 4:04 AM | Report abuse

Wow. It's amazing how closed-minded and blind people are when trying to defend defenseless positions. Why did the Obama birth certificate come up again. Even the Republican governor of Hawaii has said the Hawaii birth certificate is legit. The lawsuits that have been filed over it have been thrown out over and over again. Yet, there are those who would look at all that and say, "That's just more proof that Obama wasn't born in America." You will never convince these people because they don't intend to be convinced. They're not open to the truth, so that makes everything they say suspect.

These are the type of people who would watch a video of a petite woman being held down and then stepped on by a much larger man and rationalize that she was somehow at fault for that. They rationalize that she shouldn't have been there; it's ok for them to voice their free speech in whatever manner they wish, but it's not ok for her to voice her free speech in the way that she wants to.

This is the type of rationalization that led to the Holocaust, which these people probably believe didn't really happen. And 9-11 was conspired by the government.

These are the type of people that form the very foundation of the Tea Party movement. Not all Tea Party people will admit to that way of thinking and many of them would argue that these are fringe people. But all Tea Party supporters have a little bit of this persona in them. Might makes right and civil liberties be damned.

Maybe you can't paint everyone with the same brush, but there certainly is a clear hue cast over the entire Tea Party movement. These people who justify the assault on this woman would gladly take part in such an assault themselves, or at least greedily cheer from the sidelines: Yeah, kick her again!

I can only conclude one thing about people like that: They're just plain stupid. They are so frustrated by their own shortcomings that they want to take back by force what they believe they lost, which, when you boil it down, is white dominance.

It's disgusting.

Posted by: kingcityeditor | October 27, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

The guy who wrestled her to the ground did more physical harm to her than the fellow who pushed her head to the curb with his sneakered foot.

She was there to disrupt the event and a disruption occured. Mission Accomplished.

Posted by: blasmaic | October 27, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Amazing... I've watched the piece of video over and over and what most people are too stupid to realize is that this is an employee... She's a paid provocateur. She is compensated for the hope and prayer that this sort of incident will happen and lie like there’s no tomorrow to get this story to last as long as possible with the hope that Rand's opponent will gain enough traction to win the election. She posed a threat and she was dealt with. Unfortunately for Rand, they were well over the top in subduing "it". This may cost Rand the election and her, "by any means necessary", tactics may win the day.

The sick and disgusting part that may come from all of this? This charlatan may later use this as evidence in court and further screw the dolt who went too far.

As for stomped on? Please... maybe you need to ACTUALLY watch the tape and pay attention this time. He should have never used his foot; but it slipped off her shoulder and was decidedly not a stomp. But... you won't admit that, and may even make a weak attempt to argue with me on that point because that wouldn't fit your agenda... would it?

Posted by: robbfoster | October 27, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I imagine they recognized Lauren from her prior arrest on felony charges back in May. The full video of the event is now available on Youtube and we can see Lauren, in all her glory, rushing Rand Paul's vehicle and shoving a stiff cardboard sign at his face through an open window.

Ms Valle is a professional, paid agitator and her out of control, frothing at the mouth behavior was premeditated. She received the attention she demanded.

Posted by: wave41 | October 27, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

When will Charlie Rangle condemn the vicious assault on petite female reporter, Emily Miller? http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2010/10/petite-conserva.html

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 27, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

When will Leftists condemn the bullying assault on an Iraq War veteran in Ohio? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPmxWLXnAB4

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 27, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

When will Leftists condemn the ObamaCare union-goons (inspired by ObaMao's angry calls to "punch back twice as hard") vicious assault on a black tax austerity protester while screaming racial epithets? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,538799,00.html

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | October 27, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Maybe because I'm old(61), maybe because she is a woman. Maybe its because you don't try to hurt someone who opposes your political views. Maybe its because our political process encourages dissent.

BUT then you don't knock anyone down, stomp on them, and then blame the camera angle, the cops and anyone but yourself for violent behavior.

Now he has the stupid audacity to demand an apology from her. If someone did that to my daughter for displaying her political dissent, the dude couldn't find a rock big enough to hide under.

I hope he goes to jail and is housed with a huge horny dude named Bubba. He might come out calling himself ma'am instead of mister. Would serve him right.

Posted by: WILLinOKC | October 27, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Dr. Paul should issue brown shirts and armbands to his campaign volunteers so normal people can give them a wide berth.

Posted by: apn3206 | October 27, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I will howl with laughter when Tim Proffit gets the unholy beat-down he deserves. I only wish I could administer it in person. In the meantime I hope Valle sues him for every cent he's got - which probably isn't many.

Posted by: ExConservative | October 27, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

She posed a threat and she was dealt with. Unfortunately for Rand, they were well over the top

Would someone explain to me what the threat was? I'm a former cop and investigator. I fail to see the threat, no physical threat, no verbal threat, no overt actions. Please fill me in wise ones, but she didn't break the law.

Oh yeah, the threat is she was dissenting. Shades of Germany in the 1930's

Posted by: WILLinOKC | October 27, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

WILLinOKC wrote "Oh yeah, the threat is she was dissenting. Shades of Germany in the 1930's."

========================================

That's what my mother says, too. She had the "privilege" of growing up in Germany during that time, and is getting uncomfortable with the similarities of what she's seeing now and what she experienced then.

Posted by: apn3206 | October 27, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse


0 MINUTES AGO
The SA (German Sturmabteilung, popularly known as the "Brownshirts" or "storm troopers") was a violent paramilitary organization--BASICALLY A BUNCH OF STREET THUGS (caps mine)--who aided in Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Germany by getting into street brawls and INTIMIDATING THE OPPONENTS of the Nazi Party.
Wikipedia

The caps are mine.

Posted by: m_richert | October 27, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse


0 MINUTES AGO
The SA (German Sturmabteilung, popularly known as the "Brownshirts" or "storm troopers") was a violent paramilitary organization--BASICALLY A BUNCH OF STREET THUGS (caps mine)--who aided in Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Germany by getting into street brawls and INTIMIDATING THE OPPONENTS of the Nazi Party.
Wikipedia

The caps are mine.

Posted by: m_richert | October 27, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

To the poster who says it was a delicate stomp. Really? Well, then you'll be just fine with a little violence, won't you? Then a little more will be A Okay, right? Then when it gets much worse, then you'll start to worry, but won't complain. Until it gets closer to your back door. But, by then it will be too late. Just ask the German citizens of the '30s, they know.

Posted by: valerie14 | October 27, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

"When will Leftists condemn the bullying assault on an Iraq War veteran in Ohio? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPmxWLXnAB4 Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst"

The only case of a war veteran being bullied in Ohio I know of was bullied by a Republican.

The Republicans felt he should have been bullied, by the way.

Posted by: ceflynline | October 27, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Check out the rest of the "doctored" video the Libs have presented. Where Lauren "Squeaky" Valle shoves her sign right through the open window of Rand Paul's car into his face. He is lucky she did not seriously injure him. Or carry something deadlier. She belongs in jail. Why do the Libs keep claiming she did not attack Rand Paul when the video makes it so obvious she did?


Posted by: Typhon | October 29, 2010 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Yikes! This is an acid bath, not a discussion.

Posted by: Peggy_M | October 31, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

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