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* Yes, voters do care about the secret cash funding anti-Dem attack ads: I'm told some new national polling will come out this morning making this overwhelmingly clear, at least to people who think it makes sense to base their assessments of public opinion partly on what polls say. Here's a teaser:

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* Labor readies final push: The SEIU is going up in Nevada with a very tough new spot that just may be making a play for the female vote: It argues that Sharron Angle's policies, or lack of them, will harm women at ever stage of their life, from childhood to old age:

The ad, which will air in Reno through November 1st and is part of a final wave of SEIU spots to be unleashed in coming days, reflects a sense among Democrats that women are particularly receptive to the message that Angle is dangerous, extreme, and temperamentally unfit for the Senate.

* National Dems sticking by Perriello: The DCCC is providing new air cover for embattled Rep. Tom Perriello of Virginia, a sign, notes Alex Burns, that Dems are sticking by Perriello even though he was supposed to be one of the Dem incumbents most likely to get washed out by the GOP "wave."

Key point: This race is a must-watch as a referendum on whether a Dem can win in a difficult district even as he aggressively defends the Obama/Dem agenda. If he does hang on, it could persuade future Dems that sticking up for what you believe in, rather than skittisly turning tail every time Republicans say "boo," can work even in tough races.

* Karl Rove's group denounces the negative ads it specializes in: Crossroads GPS, the group co-founded by Karl Rove, goes up with a new spot in Nevada that asks whether voters are "tired of all these negative ads," which is amusing, since Crossroads has run multiple negative ads full of debunked distortions and exaggerations against Dems across the country.

* Who says Rove's groups are funded only by anonymous donors? American Crossroads gets a whopping $7 million cash infusion from the Texas millionaire who helped fund the Swift Boat Vets, singlehandedly chipping in nearly half the group's fundraising over the last 43 days.

* Left keeps up secret money push: MoveOn today will unleash some 28 ads in multiple Senate and House races across the country hammering Republicans for benefiting from corporate front groups, including this one targeting Illinois Senate candidate Mark Kirk.

* More signs Joe Sestak is closing fast: The new Quinnipiac poll finds he's crept within two points of Pat Toomey among likely voters, 48-46, the lastest of several polls showing the race tightening dramatically.

* Keith Olbermann vouches for my sanity: An excellent Countown segment offering a bracing fact-check of the multiple falsehoods and distortions in the Chamber/Rove ad onslaught against Dems.

And get this: Olbermann actually pointed to what polls say in discussing whether voters care about the secret cash funding those ads!

* And Juan Williams is out at NPR: How will the right react to the termination of Juan Williams for saying he gets "worried" and "nervous" about people on airplanes dressed in Muslim-style garb? Glenn Greenwald predicts an "orgy of self-pity and self-martyrdom."

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  | October 21, 2010; 8:35 AM ET
Categories:  2010 elections, Campaign finance, House Dems, House GOPers, Labor, Morning Plum, Political media, Senate Dems, Senate Republicans  
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Greg:

"Keith Olbermann vouches for my sanity"

Isn't this akin to having Bernie Madoff vouch for one's business ethics?

Posted by: ScottC3 | October 21, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

The media has given Angel, Paul, Dioguardi, Paladino and O'Donnell so much media attention, these people are practically celebrities by now.

They are giving these people millions worth of free air-time.

The public is going to go for these people and they will gain extra votes based only on the additional exposure.


Posted by: LeafofLife | October 21, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Juan Williams was always just a convenient patsy for Fox to present, as their way of being fair and balanced. He was just a token faux liberal.

Roger Ailes said, that if had to hire a liberal commentator, he was going to make sure that he was going to hire the most stupid one he could find.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

"Keith Olbermann vouches for my sanity"

Isn't this akin to having Bernie Madoff vouch for one's business ethics?

At least it's nowhere near as absurd as Scott C vouching for Q.B.'s intelligence or compassion!

Now if Scott C wants to vouch for Q.B.'s sophistry I'd be impressed because Scott C is the master of sophistry.

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 21, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Obama's campaigning HAS been effective folks. I truly believe that the combination of the Dems GOTV and Obama's campaigning is the reason why Dems are closing the gap.

Posted by: maritza1 | October 21, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

"Roger Ailes said, that if had to hire a liberal commentator, he was going to make sure that he was going to hire the most stupid one he could find."

Which makes one wonder how self loathing or desperate for $$$ a liberal would have to be to work for Faux.

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 21, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Just because 77% of voters like the color blue, that doesn't mean that color is the most important issue - and will guide their votes.

The economy is the MOST IMPORTANT issue - and that will guide people's votes.


The polls about money in politics will not guide the vote of a squirrel in Kansas.

Clearly Obama's health care bill is dragging down the economy.


Obama is destroying the democratic party. If the democrats get Obama to resign, it will somehow save the party. At this point, the democrats will not be able to survive the the next election cycle.


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Posted by: LeafofLife | October 21, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

@maritza1 Agree with your 8:52AM post.

And wouldn't it be ironic if the Dems are the ones who now form the "silent majority"?

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 21, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't think what Juan Williams said was a firing offense, at least not when taken in context.

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 21, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Really good read on the USDA settlement with Native American farmers, strongly encourage everyone to check it out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/20/AR2010102006171.html

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 21, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Really good read on the USDA settlement with Native American farmers, strongly encourage everyone to check it out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/20/AR2010102006171.html

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 21, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Re Williams/NPR/Fox...

How much or how little character the fellow has will be revealed in the next 72 hours.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

@Greg

The Countdown link is incorrect. I got redirected to his story about the house in TN that the Fire Dept. refused to save because the owners didn't pay the fee at the start of the year.

Also...have you seen the post by NDN about Gallup's polling methodology? Basically calls them out for it being fundementally flawed. Gallup's likely voter model includes the GOP winning Non-White/Non-Black's (see: Latino/Asian/Native American) by 10 points - 52/42. The idea that this demographic would go for the GOP by 10 points is pretty absurd.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | October 21, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

What if the saturation bombing of Rove and Chamber Of Con Artists attack ads have reached the point of overkill, and the viewers grow tired of hearing the same rubbish, over and over, and end up having a negative reaction to both the messengers and the messages.

It happens with all things that people get over exposed to; be it a hit song, or a commercial. People end up getting sick of hearing them.

When was the last time you saw one of those ads for the Restless Leg Syndrome, Drug?

Rove and The Chamber Of Commerce may have engaged in so much overkill, that they may have immunized a lot voters against their attack messages.

Sometimes more ends up being less.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

And Juan Williams is out at NPR: How will the right react to the termination of Juan Williams for saying he gets "worried" and "nervous" about people on airplanes dressed in Muslim-style garb? Glenn Greenwald predicts an "orgy of self-pity and self-martyrdom."

********

Well, I'd guess Greenwald might be right, but the more important question, imo, is how liberals will react.

Personally, I think firing him for his performance on the O'Reilly factor is straight up wrong. I'm no fan of Juan Williams, and if I were in charge of NPR I wouldn't want my on air talent holding down a second job at ANY other news organization, but firing someone for being honest about how they feel in an attempt to talk reason into that "pinhead" O'Reilly?

Liberals and Conservatives should both be complaining.

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 21, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Billy Kristol does the Williams/NPR story first thing and plops it at the top of the WS. It's typical Kristol, of course, thus interesting not in any analytical sense other than as propaganda (cliches, talking points, etc). But I love his final graph...

"NPR--unfair, unbalanced...and afraid."

No coincidence that Billy is pushing the FOX brand here as a contrast - "See! Only our rightwing media dares speak the truth"

NPR, like PBS, has been in the sights of these information-control boys for a long time. The take-over of PBS got stopped last effort but these guys aren't going to quit. Any really independent information dissemination system poses a threat as citizens might end up thinking and acting in some manner which causes trouble. There's nothing new in pointing to the turmoil - social and epistemological - of the sixties as the thing that led plutocrats to set up the institutional bodies which might pull things back into line. And it's for related reasons that libertarians will never get more than an inch into the US political system.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

The proposed massive sale of Weapons of offense to Saudi Arabia, has let the cat out of the bag. It is a clear indication that the USA is expecting Iraq to splinter, with Al Qaeda growing stronger in the Sunni region, and the Shiite government forming a close alliance with an Iran, that will supply it's arms needs, and dare we say it? Gasp; even WMD.

Even our so called great friends, The Iraqi Kurds, can tell which way things are going, and are sucking up to Iran. They are breaking the sanctions regime, and are trucking massive amount of gasoline, and other scarce items, into Iran on a 24/7 basis.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Poor Juan, how dare NPR not wanting to keep a Fox lapdog on their programs, as a Fear Mongering Political Commentator.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

November 2nd won't be a clean sweep, but pretty darn close. Remember in 1994, the Democrats were cheering when Oliver North lost in Virginia but woke up the next morning with quite a shock.

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 21, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

"Sometimes more ends up being less."

Agreed Liam. And there is certainly more than enough anecdotal evidence that this is exactly the case. The folks are really getting burnt out on negative ads from BOTH sides. As long as they work however....
Still I agree there will eventually come a point of diminishing returns....

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 21, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I prefer to wait as see what the election results are, rather than forming congressional and senate committees now, based on the prescient claims radiating from Clawrence/Jake The Snake/Sybil2

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

@clawrence12

"November 2nd won't be a clean sweep, but pretty darn close."

I'm saving up all the predictions made on this blog to match up after the election.

No snark intended here Clawrence but your post is not really very specific. I don't wish to put words in your mouth but the inference of such a post leads one to believe that you think the R's are going to take both the Senate and the House.

But I'll let you speak for yourself. Do you believe after election day the R's will control both the Senate and the House?

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 21, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Greg - Tom Toles must read the Plum Line.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/?hpid=opinionsbox1

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 21, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/fox-news-poll-finds-that-fox-news-will-win-confrontation-with-white-house/


Liam | October 16, 2009 at 05:18 pm

Roger Ailes spills the beans. Fox News was never “Fair & Balanced”.

Roger Ailes explains why he decided to hire Chris Cuomo to do commentary on Fox News.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/NonMoto,21/Its-fun-to-see-conservatives-turn-on-their-own-kind,675858

“Klayman takes particular aim at the “strange and petty tactics” of the network’s chairman Roger Ailes. When he asked Ailes about his decision to hire Chris Cuomo, the current “Good Morning America” co-host, to do commentary, the Fox News executive replied: “If I’m going to put on some goddamned liberal, I might as well get the dumbest f*uck I can find!””

Now folks do you understand why Juan Williams, Mara Liasson, and Alan Colmes were hired by Ailes.

He hired them because he wanted three “of the dumbest liberal f*ucks he could find.”

And believe me, he got what he wanted.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

@Liam - I think you might have a very bright insight there.

It's a complicated thing and, as always, I wish I had more time to dig in and study. I imagine Tomdispatch will cover this one well and I'll try and get there.

The armaments/intelligence/logistics industry is enormous and enormously powerful. And like any social institution, it will have a tendency or dynamic towards self-continuance and growth (after all, this is the fundamental rightwing argument against government institutions - they'll try to sustain themselves and grow). So weapons sales are a certainty in this ridiculous world we inhabit.

And it's also a certainty that some large proportion of those weapons sales (and related military activity) will be directed towards the middle east simply because of the oil resource there (as Greenspan acknowledged in a real case of violating the politically correct boundary).

The confluence of this corporate military world AND the petroleum industry has been the fundamental driver of American policy for a very long time. Israel's geography determines its role as client state, not the holocaust.

Of all the changes one might imagine that would alter US policy and lead to an infinitely better world, no two such imagined changes would be more profoundly influential than a significant shift away from fossil fuel and campaign finance reform.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't believe we will get there this year in the Senate, but I'm "hoping" yes we can "change" the House.

Posted by: clawrence12 | October 21, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Bernie,

The thing that struck me about the list of weapons, is they are designed to deal with an external threat to Saudi Arabia. That is very revealing. "Satellite Guided Bombs"? Who owns the satellites that will guide them?

I wonder how Israel is going to react to such a sale?

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

"Do you believe after election day the R's will control both the Senate and the House?"

House, yes. Senate? honestly don't know.
PA is always tough for R's. I have family in Pittsburgh. always vote D. they're more likely to stay home than vote R.

I think Murray holds on in WA, but Reid goes down. Boxer holds on, but Feingold loses.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | October 21, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Greenwald has a good piece on the labeling of Soros by Limbaugh and Fox etc as a "foreigner", even though he's been a citizen for nearly fifty years and even though he came out of Europe as a surviving Jew and anti-Communist.

Though Greenwald doesn't note it, Murdoch is never considered as a "foreigner" by these folks, of course.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

@Bernie

"The armaments/intelligence/logistics industry is enormous and enormously powerful. And like any social institution, it will have a tendency or dynamic towards self-continuance and growth"


Ya think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin

"Lockheed Martin is among the very largest defense contractors in the world, and in 2008 70% of Lockheed Martin's revenues came from military sales.

Revenue:▲ US$ 45.189 billion (2009)
(58% > U.S. DoD 27% > U.S. Government 15% > International)
(backlog of $80.9 billion)

Lockheed Martin Employees Political Action Committee is one of the 50 most generous PACs in the country, according to FEC data. With contributions from 3,000 employees, it donates $500,000 a year to about 260 House and Senate candidates. For the 2004 election cycle, Lockheed's PAC has already contributed $350,279 to federal candidates, with about 62 percent going to Republicans, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. That compares with $515,000 from General Dynamics' political action committee and $122,850 from BAE Systems North America, the center's data showed.

Do we think Ike was onto something in his farewell address that included his warning about the M.I.C.

In Lockheed's case notice while they give 62% to R's they hedge their bets with 38% to D's. Do we suppose this could have had any influence on Obama's decision to up the ante in a useless, unwinnable war in Afghanistan? Wonder how much money those drones rake in when they drop "smart bombs" (isn't that a great term) on Pakistan and Afghanistan?

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 21, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Later folks. The blogs are lovely dark and deep, but I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep.

Mr. Frost sleeps soundly now.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Liam - 1. Mara Liasson doesn't comment on FNS as a "liberal". 2. Do you even watch FNS? 3. The comment is as out of bounds as that of Ailes.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 21, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

@Liam - Good question. I'm a tad busy these days so if you see analysis that's noteworthy, please let me know.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Perriello is an excellent debater and knows the issues very well. His opponent isn't the brightest. Actually, the guy is a complete tool. If he does pull this off then he's proved a few things with caveats.

If you have a strong candidate who can articulate how this administrations actions are affecting voters positively, then you can win. I wouldn't just assume any ol' Democrat can do what Perriello is doing right now.

Perriello is an exception.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | October 21, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

@ru - Yes. Militarism, shored up by such enormous corporate and government entities, is foundational to America's operations and footprint in the world. And because of that, both parties are deeply complicit.

Which is why I didn't bother responding to Scott's silliness above re Obama.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

"I wonder how Israel is going to react to such a sale?"

Posted by: Liam-still | October 21, 2010 9:45 AM

Liam, you have not been following closely enough:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7148555.ece

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 21, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

There was discussion here a couple of weeks ago on whether the O'Donnell "I'm not a witch" tact would work or not.

Apparently she's come to the conclusion it hurt more than helped...
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2010/10/christine_odonnell_regrets_im_not_a_witch_ad.php?ref=fpblg

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin, I don't believe an effin' thing out of any Murdoch newspapers. He's on a global propaganda holy war to control the worlds news and give appearances of global consensus on crap he's advocating for.

Do you have any neutral sources out there claiming Israel was given a green light from SA?

Posted by: mikefromArlington | October 21, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

@mark in austin
Thanks! I hadn't seen that story.

The thing is, of course, that we can never trust particular accounts because misinformation is being shoveled into the media from one government or another to suit their unique propaganda purposes.

It would not be welcomed across the Muslim world if SA was seen to be complicit with Israel in facilitating an attack on a Muslim state. Not to mention with their own citizens.

Hall of mirrors.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Juan being black must forget about when whites would cross the street when they saw him coming. Is this what happens when you hang around Fox this long, you believe prejudice is acceptable?

Besides, none of the 9/11 attackers wore "muslim garb". They were dressed like everyday American's. This is why profiling doesn't work. If so, we should be afraid of everyone who resembles Tim McVey, the unibomber or George Tiller's killer...

Posted by: soapm | October 21, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

All, here's that new national polling showing the attack on secret money is working:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/poll_dem_attack_on_secret_mone.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 21, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Connections between the Joe Miller Alaskan chief goon and the Citizens Militia up there...

"As some local outlets have already reported, Fulton himself is a repeated poster on the Alaska Citizens Militia Google Forum, which can be found here. All of his postings are here." http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/how-involved-is-the-head-of-joe-millers-town-hall-security-team-with-the-alaska-citizens-militia.php?ref=fpb

Again, we probably ought to consider the bizarre nature of American fetishization of guns, uniforms, military, police-state stuff.

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I guess those bigoted folks at Fox finally won Juan over. He's now a full fledged, card carrying member of the hate crew. So much for Fox claiming a liberal view when we heard from Juan, he was one of them just waiting to come out of the closet....

Posted by: soapm | October 21, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Bernie:

"It's typical Kristol, of course, thus interesting not in any analytical sense other than as propaganda..."

Bernie's descent into self-parody continues apace.

"No coincidence that Billy is pushing the FOX brand here as a contrast - "See! Only our rightwing media dares speak the truth" "

And certainly no coincidence that the firing offense occurred on FOX so that the play on words actually made contextual sense. Man, is he fiendishly clever to have arranged that, or what?

"Any really independent information dissemination system..."

...wouldn't be funded by the government. But that doesn't quite fit into the meme, so let's ignore that fact.

"And it's for related reasons that libertarians will never get more than an inch into the US political system."

A result no doubt much lamented by the likes of Bernie, what with his clear admiration for libertarian political ideals.

Posted by: ScottC3 | October 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

All, new thread, here's the polling showing the attacks on secret cash are working:

http://wapo.st/9QkYgq

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 21, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Yglesias makes the point, rather obvious one would think, that a bunch of billionaires flying off to some swanky resort in their private jets and sitting around the caviar bemoaning the lack of "liberty" and their terribly oppressed personal situations is just a wee bit INSANE.

And being a smart fellow, his title very properly alludes to the famous essay by Hofstadter...
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/how-involved-is-the-head-of-joe-millers-town-hall-security-team-with-the-alaska-citizens-militia.php?ref=fpb

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Trust me. They're making a mistake here.

"Proposed Florida Immigration Law Exempts Canadians, Western Europeans From Scrutiny"

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/20/florida-immigration-law/

Posted by: bernielatham | October 21, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

@Bernie

"Trust me. They're making a mistake here.

"Proposed Florida Immigration Law Exempts Canadians, Western Europeans From Scrutiny"

As a Floridian I can share this joke with you since I know you will take it in good humor. Apparently in Australia and Canada the restaurants pay their employees decent enough wages that tips are not expected to be 15-20%...I don't know this..it's something I've been told..

BUT...here it comes Bernie from our service people here in touristy spots like St. Pete Beach..

Do you know the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?

A canoe can tip! (rimshot plz)

Posted by: rukidding7 | October 21, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

soapm wrote:

"I guess those bigoted folks at Fox finally won Juan over. He's now a full fledged, card carrying member of the hate crew. So much for Fox claiming a liberal view when we heard from Juan, he was one of them just waiting to come out of the closet...."

We should always silence any voice but those who agree with us. NPR is certainly better off with a Hallelujah chorus than having any dissenting opinions, artfully expressed or otherwise.

Posted by: 54465446 | October 21, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Where's the outrage over Fox no firing Charles Leaf? Mamma Palin has no issue working with a child rapist? As long as he is right wing, yes?

Posted by: T-town1 | October 21, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Again, we probably ought to consider the bizarre nature of American fetishization of guns, uniforms, military, police-state stuff."

Consider it In what fashion? Is your concern that Americans are stupid and will fall for any old manipulator who comes along and fall right in line, ala FDR and lock a specified scapegoat? Does this fetishization always lead to holocaust? What are you prepared to do to head it off? What would be out of bounds in stopping these fetishists?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | October 21, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

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