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Why Dems were right to push secret cash angle, part 973

It's almost too obvious to point it out, but ya think maybe the Dem efforts to highlight all the secret cash helping Republicans may have helped Dems with ... their fundraising?

The DNC is set to report today that they raised just over $17 million in September, its highest monthly total ever, giving the DNC a total of $13.2 million in cash on hand at the end of the month, a Dem official says.

What's more, in the first 13 days of October, the DNC pulled in $11.1 million, putting it on track for another record-breaking month. The DNC has been pounding away at the secret money issue for much of those 13 days, sending out multiple fundraising emails in recent days highlighting the Rove/Chamber of Commerce ad onslaught against Democrats.

I don't know if it can be conclusively proven that the secret money attack is responsible for the DNC's fundraising successes. But it seems safe to assume the specter of secret corporate and foreign money rigging our elections just may have played some kind of role. This Dem attack line was always partly about fundraising, and on that front it seems like it may be working.

So even if this strategy has yet to produce an immediate and dramatic turnaround in the polls -- which was always an unreasonable thing to expect in the first place -- Dems are absolutely right to keep it up.

UPDATE, 4:51 p.m.: Of that $17 million in September, over 90 percent came in donations of under $200, a Dem official says, a figure Dems will surely contrast with the huge amounts of corporate money being raised on the right.

By Greg Sargent  | October 20, 2010; 4:42 PM ET
Categories:  2010 elections, Campaign finance  
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"So even if this strategy has yet to produce an immediate and dramatic turnaround in the polls"

I'd say that the Sestak comeback against that corporate lacky Toomey could be a result of this strategy, but we will really not know for two more weeks during the election postmortem. If it's been found to work, then we can expect the Dems to pound on it hard up to Nov. 2012. Rove and the CofC are already being defensive, but two more years on the attack should be enough for Rove to seek shelter in Bermuda. One can always hope.

Posted by: filmnoia | October 20, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I know one thing it has done. It has handed Democratic candidates a hammer to keep beating their opponents with.

In the Illinois Senate debate, last night, Alexi Giannoulias made Mark Kirk and Karl Rove Siamese Twins.

I would recommend that other Democrats study how Alexi linked his opponent to the secret money being laundered through Karl Rove.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Ethan


ONE QUESTION: Is Rev. Wright a racist ???


Simple yes or no question.


.


_____________________________


The reasoning here is simple - let's see if you and your liberal friends can follow it.

If the objective is to draw a conclusion about MILLIONS OF AMERICANS based on those few people which you cite in the NAACP report,

THEN Obama MUST HAVE THE SAME KIND OF CONCLUSION DRAWN BY HIS ASSOCIATION WITH REV. WRIGHT AND HIS CHURCH.


In addition, Obama brought his CHILDREN to listen to Rev. Wright, week after week, year after year.


So, let's just APPLY YOUR LOGIC TO OBAMA and leave it at that, ok?


,

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 20, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

A retarded assh0le says what?

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 20, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Was that 90% of $17 million, i.e. $15.3 million came from the <= $200 donors? Or 90% of donors were of the <=$200 variety?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | October 20, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

@Greg: "The specter of... foreign money rigging our elections just may have played some kind of role... So even if this strategy has yet to produce an immediate and dramatic turnaround in the polls... Dems are absolutely right to keep it up."

You confuse me, Greg. You had been saying - correctly - that raising the whole foreign money thing was a bad play. Now you seem to be saying that making baseless accusations without proof is great so long as it raises money? You're better than that!

Posted by: sbj3 | October 20, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

OT

Turns out that Rand Paul -- who has been incensed over Jack Conway's suggestion that Paul's college hijinks are relevant to the Kentucky Senate race -- was very recently the candidate making attack ads aimed at the decisions another man made in his college years.

Back in the hotly contested Republican primary, which pitted Paul against establishment pick Trey Grayson, Paul had a field day making an issue out of Grayson's college-age support for Bill Clinton. Grayson, the current Kentucky Secretary of State, told a group of students in 2008 that when he cast his first presidential ballot in 1992, at age 20, he cast it for Bill Clinton. Most other Kentuckians did, too -- Clinton won the state that year, and did it again four years later.

...

So, it seems that back in February it was OK for Paul to use "youthful indiscretions" as a campaign attack against his opponent. Today he calls it "gutter politics" when Conway uses stories about Paul's time at Baylor University to score political points.

Paul dismisses whatever happened back at Baylor -- he still won't say exactly what did happen -- as too far in the past to be relevant to today's race. When it came to Grayson's past, however, Paul said the timing of his attacks was spot-on.

"Frankly, I'd rather be coming from the right than from the left like Grayson, who not too long ago was a Democrat and Bill Clinton supporter," Paul told Time back in March.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/rand-paul-loves-a-good-college-age-attack-ad-too-video.php#more

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 20, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

OOPS!

The Wisconsin newspaper that had Republican Senate hopeful Ron Johnson at a loss for words over how to help the middle class has just endorsed his opponent, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI). What's more, the paper cites stumping Johnson as a key driver of their decision.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/wisconsin-paper-endorses-feingold-after-johnson-deer-in-headlight-moment.php

IT'S THE MIDDLE CLASS, IDIOT.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

A good amount of harassment from the democrats on this blog.


NOT "intent" to harass - actual harassment.

And then the liberals start to claim that their conversation is of such a high "qualify"


.

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 20, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Secret Donations is not baseless. It is the truth. Ask Karl Rove and The Chamber Of Con Artists. Even they admit that they will not tell us where the money is coming from.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"Of that $17 million in September, over 90 percent came in donations of under $200 . . ."

Sure sounds like an enthusiasm gap to me.

Time for one of you Repubwiccans to say, "Squirrel!"

I mean, "Soros!"

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

OT - More on Ron Johnson:

GOP U.S. Senate candidate Ron Johnson said this morning he doesn't have specific details on how to solve the nation's issues, instead comparing himself to a promising job candidate who has the potential to learn on the job.

...

"I don't believe this election is about details. I really don't," Johnson said. "I've met with people in 60 counties and done 500 personal events, and my approach is to convey to people who I am, explain my manufacturing background, and then as honestly as I can, let people know what my philosophy is."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/ron-johnson-im-applying-for-the-job-of-senator----i-dont-need-details.php#more

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 20, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

OOPS!

The Wisconsin newspaper that had Republican Senate hopeful Ron Johnson at a loss for words over how to help the middle class has just endorsed his opponent, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI). What's more, the paper cites stumping Johnson as a key driver of their decision.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/wisconsin-paper-endorses-feingold-after-johnson-deer-in-headlight-moment.php

IT'S THE MIDDLE CLASS, IDIOT.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 5:09 PM |
.............

Well no wonder the guy was stumped. The Republicans wiped out the middle class.

That is why Republicans are running on a promise to borrow four trillion dollars to help out the Upper Class.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Good post Greg. Right on about the good things that accrue to a party willing to fight back against big money and scorched earth tactics.

Hey Dems, it's important to win arguments, but let's also win elections.

If Howard Dean had Tim Kaine's job I think the GOP would be panicking.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 20, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

UPDATE, 4:51 p.m.: Of that $17 million in September, over 90 percent came in donations of under $200, a Dem official says, a figure Dems will surely contrast with the huge amounts of corporate money being raised on the right
......................

Just imagine how many of those small donations they would have received, if their wasn't such an enthusiasm gap. I kid Greg, I kid, because I love you.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Shorter Ron Johnson: "Middle class? What's that?"

Posted by: suekzoo1 | October 20, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

@PaciolisRevenge: Even I am rooting for Feingold.

@liam: The foreign money. "Tokie thinks you ams not reads so good."

So when the DNC collects small donations it's a great thing but when tea party candidates do the same it doesn't mean a thing?

Oy.

Posted by: sbj3 | October 20, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Greg says, "So even if this strategy has yet to produce an immediate and dramatic turnaround in the polls -- which was always an unreasonable thing to expect in the first place -- Dems are absolutely right to keep it up."

Too true!

In my opinion this is just as much, if not more, about the next few election cycles as it is about this election cycle.

If they don't stand up and fight this now, when will they? How many election cycles need to go by before the rational people scream, "Basta!"

Luckily Obama and the Dems get this. That is why Obama mentioned it in the last SOTU speech.

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 20, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

44654465:

Can you take care of this one? I'm still "wait[ing] patiently" for the supposed change to Fix-style comments sometime this week : )

Come to think of it, where is Kevin_Willis?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Next up, Ron Johnson denounces cheese and the Green Bay Packers.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

O/T

Florida takes the ridiculous Arizona immigration law and makes it even more racist.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/20/florida-immigration-law/

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 20, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Shorter Ron Johnson: "Middle class? What's that?"

Posted by: suekzoo1 | October 20, 2010 5:19 PM

................

Johnson has been selling himself as a self made manufacturing genius, who pulled himself up by his own bootstraps. It was recently reported, that when he started his company, his only client was his in-laws business, and they provided the vast bulk of his orders for many years.

Another clown that was picked up and carried over to third base, who keeps claiming that he hit a triple.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I knew that Greg's "final primal scream" would not be the last (as 5446544 says, or whatever Sean's secret number is, this excuse about the GOP raising too much money will definitely be used after the election too ; )

Seriously, though, whatever happened to: "a quick update on the state of the comments section.

First off, I wanted to thank you regulars again for your patience. It is much appreciated. You should know that the problem is being looked at, and you have my word that action will definitely be taken this week that I think you all will find satisfactory.

More details to come. But you should know that we take your complaints very seriously, and as always, I view the quality of the comments section as absolutely essential to the blog's success. I'm asking you for your patience one more time, and I hope you all agree that it's worth sticking it out through the unpleasant patches."?

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Florida takes the ridiculous Arizona immigration law and makes it even more racist.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/20/florida-immigration-law/

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 20, 2010 5:32 PM |

...............

Surely that is not going to be well received in the Cuban community, which has been staunchly Republican?

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Liam,

A minor correction: Ron Johnson didn't start the company. It was already around when his in-laws hired him at the age of 24.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

OT:

-Something About Tax Cuts Or Earnings Or Money Or Something In Recent Economic News-

Some sort of tax cut or earnings or money or something was reported in economic news this week in further evidence that a lot of financial- related things have been going on lately.

[...]

The head Treasury person, whose name sounds like Guyver or Meisner, appeared on every major network this week, either to assure Americans that everything was better or was going to get better or was never going to get better. Some other guy argued that it has never been that good. During interviews, the Treasury guy was observed on several occasions smiling or wincing.

According to a recent issue of The Wall Street Journal, there are currently a bunch of columns filled with a wide variety of numbers, letters, and symbols.

Geithner — that is the Treasury guy's name.

[...]

Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist and 2008 winner of the Nobel Prize for something in one of those economics categories, acknowledged in an editorial this week that the SEC must work closely with the stock market, Wall Street, and the New York Stock Exchange to maintain the bulls, bears, and opening bells. Krugman also said something could spur lending or trading or budgetary measures.

Although it has not been totally determined whether Krugman agrees with leading experts on assets or retail sales data or other fiscal things, reliable sources have confirmed that he has a beard.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/something-about-tax-cuts-or-earnings-or-money-or-s,18169/

Go read it all, too f'n funny.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Classic:

Today on his radio program, Rush Limbaugh reacted to the news of George Soros' $1 million donation to Media Matters thusly: "You want to talk a little foreign money in politics? George Soros has admitted to donating $1 million to Media Matters for America."

I hesitate to point this out, since Rush Limbaugh is typically so careful with his facts, but George Soros is a U.S. citizen. He can vote and everything.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010200027

Two words -- Rupert Murdoch

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 20, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

prag, you're forgetting the cardinal rule:

right wingers are ALWAYS the victim.

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 20, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Thanks bearclaw. That was not mentioned in the local report that I had read. However, that makes him comes across as even less of the self starter, which he has been promoting himself as.

A pivotal game for The Giants tonight. The Yankees were very lucky not to have been swept. Texas had a five run lead in the first game.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Liam: "Surely that is not going to be well received in the Cuban community, which has been staunchly Republican?"


Prolly not.

"...under the proposed law, Canadians and Western Europeans will simply be presumed to be here legally, and they are not required to document it. “That language makes it clear that police are targeting only a specific minority,” Susana Barciela, policy director at the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, told the New Times."

Posted by: suekzoo1 | October 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

pragmaticstill | October 20, 2010 5:40 PM

Not only that but something like 7% of News Corp (Fox News etc) is owned by the Saudi Royal Family. The same family that funds the Wahabi Islamic Sect.

How much did Murdoch and News Corp give to Republican causes this year alone?

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 20, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

prag,

Murdoch: Australian, wealthy by birth, made his money in the media.

Soros: Hungarian Jew (by birth), made his money in currency trading.

So what if both are now U.S. citizens? Can't you see the obvious difference?

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Prolly not.

"...under the proposed law, Canadians and Western Europeans will simply be presumed to be here legally, and they are not required to document it. “That language makes it clear that police are targeting only a specific minority,” Susana Barciela, policy director at the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, told the New Times."

Posted by: suekzoo1 | October 20, 2010 5:45 PM |


I would advise Full Body Nicotine Stain Boehner, to steer clear of Arizona and Florida.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Asked to explain the reasoning behind the contributions (of millions of dollars to Republican causes), Murdoch said they were made "in the interest of the country and of all the shareholders ... that there be a fair amount of change in Washington."

According to Murdoch, the donations, while "unusual," had "nothing to do with the editorial policies" of News Corp.'s media properties. He also brushed off his widely reported comment that News Corp.'s donation to the RGA was a result of his friendship with former Fox News employee and current GOP gubernatorial candidate John Kasich, calling it a "throwaway line."

http://mediamatters.org/columns/201010150055

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 20, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I am coming to the conclusion that the liberals have nothing to offer the nation.

The liberals gave us Obama - what good is he?

At this point, the liberals refuse to even defend Obama. Obama is out there, just twisting with a bogus series of issues which are not grounded in reality, or which sway voters.


Posted by: LeafofLife | October 20, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Spread the word:

Early voting is now taking place in AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, FL, GA, HI, IL, IN,IA, KS, LA, ME, MT, NV, NM, NC, ND, Ohio, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, WV, WI,and WY.

--- If you are in any of those states, GO VOTE TODAY or TOMORROW! ---

Get Out The Vote!

Info here: http://www.vote411.org/

Pass it on.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

A retarded assh0le says what?

Posted by: PaciolisRevenge | October 20, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

! From that same Think Progress site.

"Bush: ‘I Miss Being Pampered’

“I loved being your president,” George W. Bush said, speaking to an audience at a university fundraiser in Alabama earlier this month. “But frankly,” he added, “I’m having the time of my life not being your president.” Last night, Bush told a sold out crowd in Texas why he loved being president so much:

Bush said he misses certain aspects of the presidency.

“I miss being pampered; I miss Air Force One; I miss being commander in chief of an awesome group of (people),” he said. "

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Spread the word:

Early voting is now taking place in AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, FL, GA, HI, IL, IN,IA, KS, LA, ME, MT, NV, NM, NC, ND, Ohio, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, WV, WI,and WY.

--- If you are in any of those states, GO VOTE TODAY or TOMORROW! ---

Get Out The Vote!

Info here: http://www.vote411.org/

Pass it on.

Posted by: Ethan2010
--------------------------------


Just voted today. Turnout has been looking pretty good. Almost as much as when Obama was running. (LA-2. Heavily Dem district)

Posted by: DDAWD | October 20, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Liam, you sure that wasn't Will Ferrell?

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 20, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Folks just completely ignore this Sybil creature. It craves attention.

Leave it twisting slowly in the wind.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I think that you all should stay here at Plum Line, posting comments, rather than voting ; )

BTW: on the prior thread, Obama just lost "dozas" who is urging another Democrat to run in the 2012 primary!

the Obama administration filed an emergency request Wednesday with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to stop the military from allowing openly gay troops from serving. In effect, the administration wants to continue barring gays from the military even though it ultimately favors repealing the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell."

LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Liam, you sure that wasn't Will Ferrell?

Posted by: BGinCHI | October 20, 2010 5:58 PM

............

It might just as well have been; especially from 2001 through 2008.

The guy talks like he grew up in sweatshop, instead of having been pampered all his life.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Spread the word:

ATTENTION ALL IN : AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, FL, GA, HI, IL, IN,IA, KS, LA, ME, MT, NV, NM, NC, ND, Ohio, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, WV, WI,and WY.

Go vote STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN TODAY OR TOMORROW


Do not wait to register how you feel about Obama and his far-left agenda and his arrogant ignoring of the economic crisis !!

Posted by: LeafofLife | October 20, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

WOW.

-Kirk campaign held “Bejing fundraiser” day before tax loophole vote-

The Kirk campaign says that the candidate held a “Skype” fundraising meeting with American businesspeople in Bejing, China. I’m told that 12 people participated in the event.

FEC records show that Geoffrey Enck contributed $1,000 to Kirk that day. Enck is the CEO of ITI China Holdings. One of the things the company does is investment banking for Chinese manufacturing plants.

And then the next day, Kirk voted “No” on a bill to close a tax loopholes that would prevent companies from “using current U.S. foreign tax credit rules to subsidize their foreign activities.”

http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2010/10/20/kirk-campaign-held-bejing-fundraiser-day-before-tax-loophole-vote/

Also in the leaked memo (staff must LOVE this guy /snark):

"An ad on Drudge brought in just $50."

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Bush misses being pampered?

Heard that David Vitter has the same complaint . . .

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

From Think Progress;

"What Role Have Scalia And Thomas Played In The Koch Money Machine? "

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/20/scalia-thomas-koch/

"Earlier today, ThinkProgress’ Lee Fang revealed several documents outlining the details of one of right-wing billionaire Charles Koch’s secret convenings of corporate political donors. As Koch revealed to the Wall Street Journal in 2006, the purpose of these meetings is to recruit “captains of industry” to fund the conservative infrastructure of front groups, political campaigns, think tanks and media outlets. Buried in this document, however, is a surprising revelation about the role two supposedly impartial jurists have played in these extended fundraising solicitations: “Past meetings have featured such notable leaders as Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.”

A Supreme Court justice lending a hand to a political fundraising event would be a clear violation of the Code of Conduct for United States Judges, if it wasn’t for the fact that the nine justices have exempted themselves from much of the ethical rules governing all other federal judges. Nevertheless, a spokesperson for the Supreme Court tells ThinkProgress that “[t]he Justices look to the Code of Conduct for guidance” in determining when they may participate in fundraising activities. Under that Code:

Fund Raising. A judge may assist nonprofit law-related, civic, charitable, educational, religious, or social organizations in planning fund-raising activities and may be listed as an officer, director, or trustee. A judge may solicit funds for such an organization from judges over whom the judge does not exercise supervisory or appellate authority and from members of the judge’s family. Otherwise, a judge should not personally participate in fund-raising activities, solicit funds for any organization, or use or permit the use of the prestige of judicial office for that purpose. A judge should not personally participate in membership solicitation if the solicitation might reasonably be perceived as coercive or is essentially a fund-raising mechanism."

.............

This might explain why Justice Thomas's Right Wing Political Activist Wife, left that message for Anita Hill. A Diversion from this real big story was needed.

Time to fire up the Judicial Impeachment Machine.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

LeafofLife:

Of course, any lurkers who live in AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, FL, GA, HI, IL, IN,IA, KS, LA, ME, MT, NV, NM, NC, ND, OH, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, WV, WI, or WY should vote a straight Republican ticket ASAP -- my comment, above, was directed to the liberals posting here -- wouldn't you agree that it's MUCH MORE important that they spew their opinions about Karl Rove and Will Ferrill here?

BTW: since Stephen Vossler bunked in the military with a homosexual, and thought it was OK, I guess that's enough reason right there to get rid of DADT -- see, libs, you've even changed my mind about this -- keep up the good work here.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

The Wall St. Journal described Mark Kirk as being one of the greediest hogs at the federal lobbyists troughs.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

EVIL NEVER STOPS TO REST:

The group behind the controversial commercial telling Hispanics in Nevada not to vote isn't shutting down in light of Univision's decision to pull its ads. In fact, it may be broadening its reach.

Robert de Posada, the head of Latinos For Reform, told Hotline On Call Wednesday that the group is currently reevaluating its spending strategy in light of Univision's decision. Among the options are more Spanish ads on other networks and radio, as well as English ads on cable, radio and possibly some network television.

Currently, De Posada is finishing a second ad that he says will be as controversial as the first.

"We're playing with the ad right now," he said. "We have a second ad produced but it's going to pretty much shock people."

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/10/hispanic_dont_v.php

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Courtesy of your activist right wing supreme court, more republican disinformation:

In his documentary I Want Your Money, filmmaker Ray Griggs employs an all-star cast of right-wing misinformation propagators who fill the film with long-parroted and thoroughly debunked conservative myths about U.S. economic history and President Obama's economic policies.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201010190033

I'm sure this is fine with the retarded assh0les too, right sbj?

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 20, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Bush misses being pampered?

Heard that David Vitter has the same complaint . . .

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 6:10 PM

..................

He gave a whole new meaning to; The Louisiana Purchase.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Jake,

How can you be sure you are voting a straight Republican ticket? Do you avoid Republican candidates with a "wide stance"?

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010 would make it illegal to post any comment here urging liberals NOT to vote!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Currently, De Posada is finishing a second ad that he says will be as controversial as the first

..............

How does one say Uncle Tom, in Spanish?

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Tio Tomas

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

bearclaw1:

As you know, I am no longer answering your questions to me because you refused to answer my question to you on a prior thread. You should have thought about the consequences earlier ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"Of course, any lurkers who live in"

Of course any lurkers here know that you are a lying sack of s__t and will do the opposite of anything you suggest.

GOTV, peeps!

Spread the word via email, social media, twitter, facebook, phone calls, door-to-door, community meetings... ANY WAY POSSIBLE!

We need everyone who is eligible to vote to get out there and not just vote, but to encourage EVERYONE to get out to the polls! This is the only link people need to pass around, it has registration info, early voting info, eligibility info, polling location info, and lots more resources:

http://www.vote411.org/

Anyone who knows any spanish-speakers or who lives in any Latino-heavy areas, send this link around for voting info En Espanol:

http://www.rockthevote.com/en-espanol/

And remember, the Republican Party is telling people of Hispanic origin: "Don't Vote."

Now GO VOTE and SHOW THEM a thing or two by bringing 10 of your friends!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

How can you be sure you are voting a straight Republican ticket? Do you avoid Republican candidates with a "wide stance"?

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 6:17 PM |
..............

OK. I will repeat my old joke about Senator Larry Craig.

His foot tapping was Morse Code, signaling:

I-Da-Ho I-Da-Ho I-Da-Ho

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010:

"EVIL NEVER STOPS TO REST:"

You should at least take a nap every once in a while.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

All, Happy Hour Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/10/happy_hour_roundup_113.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | October 20, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Joke, send this around to all your Latino friends:

http://www.rockthevote.com/en-espanol/

Oh wait. You don't HAVE any friends!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | October 20, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know the back story behind Mrs. Thomas calling Anita Hill. After nineteen (?) years, she calls? Maybe she's been calling for years, and it just now is being revealed? Or, Mrs. Thomas is beginning to think Anita was telling the truth? Or Mrs. Thomas drinks? Or Anita is crazier than a bedbug and made it all up? Or something.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 20, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

54465446 (THAT'S what Sean calls him / herself) posted this on the prior thread, but it is applicable here too:

"Don't worry Greg. The polls aren't reflecting yet the inroads made by the foreign donors campaign issue among likely voters. This will surely cause heavy participation at the last minute, since it is an issue that hits the wallets of every single American, unlike health care, mortgage foreclosures, Afghanistan, and unemployment.

(yes, this was satire)"

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

@prag: "I'm sure this is fine with the retarded assh0les too, right sbj?"

What *wouldn't* be fine with a retarded assh0le?

(I don't understand ???)

Posted by: sbj3 | October 20, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I put my name to my comments, and I do not forge comments, and attribute them to some one else. Brigade does.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 3:38 PM
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I'll give you some credit for brass. If my comments were as ignorant as yours, I sure wouldn't want my name on them.

Posted by: Brigade | October 20, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know the back story behind Mrs. Thomas calling Anita Hill. After nineteen (?) years, she calls? Maybe she's been calling for years, and it just now is being revealed? Or, Mrs. Thomas is beginning to think Anita was telling the truth? Or Mrs. Thomas drinks? Or Anita is crazier than a bedbug and made it all up? Or something.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 20, 2010 6:40 PM

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As far as I can recall, she was not even married to Justice Thomas at the time of the Anita Hill testimony. It sure is very strange, that she would be the one to make the call.

I speculated earlier that it might have been done intentionally to divert the media's attention away from the revelation that Thomas and Scalia had attended fund raisers at Koch Industries events.

If that was what she had in mind, it worked, because all the networks have focused on was her phone message. It makes it easy for TV, when they have an archive of old video clips that they can just slap together, and say a few words over. TV news is an oxymoron.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with someone calling me out on what I say, but when someone stoops so low as to forge words, and put my name to them, then I think they have lost any right to be allowed to continue posting.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 3:48 PM
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Now give us two people in the entire world who give two hoots what you think. You and that thing in your pocket.

Posted by: Brigade | October 20, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

12Bar,

I'm pretty sure Anita Hill has the voicemail recording, and reported the incident to police. In other words, it is highly unlikely Anita Hill made it up.

I don't know why Virginia Thomas is doing this now -- maybe after all these years, she longs for some public statement from Anita Hill so that the people won't look at her husband as a pervert.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

would recommend that other Democrats study how Alexi linked his opponent to the secret money being laundered through Karl Rove.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 4:54 PM
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Yes, then those other Democrats could be losers, too. Oh, wait, they already are.

Posted by: Brigade | October 20, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Anita Hill did report the message, because she did not know what to make of it, or if it was someone pretending to be Virginia Thomas. Since Ms. Hill had never spoken to Mrs. Thomas, she had no idea what her voice should sound like.

Mrs. Thomas told the authorities that she in fact had left the message, so no crime was involved, and the investigation was dropped.

At the time of her original testimony, Ms. Hill volunteered to take a lie detector exam, she did, and was found to be telling the truth about what happened between her and Justice Thomas.

Not admissible in court, but still worth making note of.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Secret Donations is not baseless. It is the truth. Ask Karl Rove and The Chamber Of Con Artists. Even they admit that they will not tell us where the money is coming from.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 5:10 PM
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The ads were sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce; that's all you know and all you need to know. Supporters of the Chamber are none of your business. If you're worried about campaign fraud, focus on your liberal friends, where most of it originates. That'll keep you busy for as long as you've got left.

Posted by: Brigade | October 20, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Shorter Ron Johnson: "Middle class? What's that?"

Posted by: suekzoo1 | October 20, 2010 5:19 PM
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The class above yours, obviously.

Posted by: Brigade | October 20, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Poor Nelson Muntz says that no one pays any attention to what I write, yet he keeps reading all my posts, and attaching his feeble little utterances to them. HaH HaH. He is obsessed with me. My very own online stalker.

He appears to be really working very hard tonight to overcompensate for his feelings of inadequacy.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Liam,

A minor correction: Ron Johnson didn't start the company. It was already around when his in-laws hired him at the age of 24.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | October 20, 2010 5:39 PM
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Liam is not too concerned with facts. He's one of those guys who struck out swinging and wants us to think he hit a triple.

Posted by: Brigade | October 20, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

See what I mean folks;

Poor Nelson Muntz says that no one pays any attention to what I write, yet he keeps reading all my posts, and attaching his feeble little utterances to them. HaH HaH. He is obsessed with me. My very own online stalker.

He appears to be really working very hard tonight to overcompensate for his feelings of inadequacy.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Liar-still stated, above, that Clarence and Virginia Thomas were not married at the time of the Anita Hill testimony -- they were actually married in 1987 and Ms. Hill testified over FOUR YEARS later, on October 11, 1991. Perhaps the upcoming 20 year anniversary of said perjury was what prompted the recent call?

Par for the course, Liam.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Things must not be going very smoothly in the Thomas marriage, if Virginia is still gnawing over that long ago event.

Posted by: Liam-still | October 20, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Anita Hill did report the message, because she did not know what to make of it, or if it was someone pretending to be Virginia Thomas. Since Ms. Hill had never spoken to Mrs. Thomas, she had no idea what her voice should sound like.

Mrs. Thomas told the authorities that she in fact had left the message, so no crime was involved, and the investigation was dropped.
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I'm intrigued as to why a woman would call another 19 years after the testimony. That is strange, and indicates an obsession with the subject. If Mrs. Thomas thinks of Anita Hill as a rival, and if Mrs. Thomas lies awake all night obsessing over this, for years, I could see her finally making the phone call. Or maybe she calls and hangs up a thousand times over the years. Or maybe, Mrs. Thomas suspects the Judge is having an affair now, or maybe she knows. Or even, Mrs. Thomas is having an affair. Something like that.

What I find hard to believe is that this is the act of calculated political action, unless Mrs. Thomas is delusional. She would have to believe that Anita Hill is guilt driven, and 20 years later is just sitting around for somebody to leave her a message, Anita was going to do what?, write a letter of apology and have it published in the WaPo? THAT is delusional thinking. Clever political operatives tend not to be delusional.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | October 20, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

@prag: "I'm sure this is fine with the retarded assh0les too, right sbj?"

What *wouldn't* be fine with a retarded assh0le?

(I don't understand ???)

Posted by: sbj3 | October 20, 2010 6:50 PM

Explains a lot about the GOP and its supporters.

Posted by: pragmaticstill | October 20, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

According to a transcript of the message from ABC News -- take that for what it's worth -- Mrs. Thomas identified herself and then said, "I just wanted to reach across the airwaves and the years and ask you to consider something. I would love you to consider an apology sometime and some full explanation of why you did what you did with my husband. So give it some thought and certainly pray about this and come to understand why you did what you did. OK, have a good day," Thomas said.

In her follow-up statement, Mrs. Thomas said she did not intend to offend Hill. "I did place a call to Ms. Hill at her office extending an olive branch to her after all these years, in hopes that we could ultimately get passed what happened so long ago. That offer still stands, I would be very happy to meet and talk with her if she would be willing to do the same," Thomas said.

Hill declined comment to reporters who stopped her in Waltham on her way to work Wednesday.

Posted by: JakeD2 | October 20, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

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