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By Greg Sargent

* D'oh! Evan Bayh, who's getting lots of attention right now for saying Dems overreached by passing health reform, appears to have counseled Obama advisers early on that they had to get it done.

* Shrewd move: Eric Cantor and John Boehner are creating that new leadership slot I noted below in order to give incoming GOP freshmen a "larger voice at the leadership table" than "previous GOP freshman classes."

* Wow, talk about boneheaded. Former New York Governor George Pataki, on ABC News's Top Line, actually pronounced the incoming House Speaker's name as "Leader Boner" before quickly correcting himself. It's here, at around the 8:22 mark.

* I'm sure Mitt Romney really appreciates the fact that Obama cited Romney's health care plan as Governor of Massachusetts as partial inspiration for his own.

* Shocker of the day: Fox News reports on an alleged letter circulated by House Dems calling on Nancy Pelosi not to run for minority leader -- but it turns out no one has signed it and few Dems have even seen it.

* Pelosi's bid for minority leader picks up steam with endorsements from the SEIU and the AFL-CIO.

* Jonathan Bernstein says Dems should stick with Pelosi as minority leader because "what really matters in any of these positions is how effective leaders are inside Congress, not on TV."

* Darrell Issa has been promising lately he's no partisan flameflower, but he's not afraid to say he wants House Republicans to hold hundreds of hearings.

* Millions of Tea Partyers weep hot tears as Michele Bachmann's bid for a GOP leadership post appears to be floundering.

* Dave Weigel reports that the Dems' effort to paint today's GOP as the party of Bush was a miserable failure. I hate to say I told you so, but I did tell you some time ago that this was clearly happening.

* Fun fact of the day, from Gallup:

Republicans are more than twice as likely as Democrats to say it's more important for political leaders to stick to their beliefs even if little gets done...Democrats are almost twice as likely as Republicans to say it's more important for political leaders to compromise in order to get things done.

* Special bonus fun fact of the day: The total spent on ads specifically attacking Nancy Pelosi this year is higher than $65 million.

* And Orrin Hatch wants to compromise on the Bush tax cuts by doing it the GOP's way just for the time being, rather than forever.

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  | November 8, 2010; 6:31 PM ET
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Comments


Each individual democrat in the country will have to make a personal decision as to whether they will continue to support Obama's irrational decision making.

It is a clear choice.

Obama's freaky cult-like campaign themes no longer make any sense in the real world of governing.

Obama's overly aggressive behavior is evidence of an unstable personality disorder - ironically resulting from an inferiority complex. People who feel inferior - like affirmative action guys - end up over compensating and are unable to moderate their reactions.


EACH individual democrat is going to have to decide for himself to continue to support Obama

OR continue to support a person with an unstable personality disorder which is destroying the democratic party.


Only then can the democrats find a message which works with the American People - as long as they are tied down to Obama's over-compensating for his inferiority complex, the democrats will never be able to shape a good message.

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Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse


Each individual democrat in the country will have to make a personal decision as to whether they will continue to support Obama's irrational decision making.

It is a clear choice.

Obama's freaky cult-like campaign themes no longer make any sense in the real world of governing.

Obama's overly aggressive behavior is evidence of an unstable personality disorder - ironically resulting from an inferiority complex. People who feel inferior - like affirmative action guys - end up over compensating and are unable to moderate their reactions.


EACH individual democrat is going to have to decide for himself to continue to support Obama

OR continue to support a person with an unstable personality disorder which is destroying the democratic party.


Only then can the democrats find a message which works with the American People - as long as they are tied down to Obama's over-compensating for his inferiority complex, the democrats will never be able to shape a good message.

.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

More than $65 million was spent specifically trying to attack Newt Gingrich too.

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

The TeaOP/Right *had* to resort to extremism to win seats in the mid terms because of Obama's essential moderate platform. There was no % in it for them to say, "hey, thats the same HCR plan that Romney and other GOP supported a few years back".

Add a Kenyan father/Democrat from "corrupt" Chi-Town/yadayada, and its all so transparent.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | November 8, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Greg wrote: "* Fun fact of the day, from Gallup:
Republicans are more than twice as likely as Democrats to say it's more important for political leaders to stick to their beliefs even if little gets done...Democrats are almost twice as likely as Republicans to say it's more important for political leaders to compromise in order to get things done."

Well, that makes sense from a Republican point of view in that more often than not "getting something done" means more government involvement and spending. Of course those Republicans desiring less spending would like to avoid that. Does it show Republicans less cooperative or Democrats more interested in larger government?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | November 8, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

More than $65 million (as a percentage of the total amount in 1996) was spent specifically trying to attack Newt Gingrich too.

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Chuck

I have no idea what you are trying to say. No one wants Obama's far-left version of health care. It is a complete lie that the Republicans supported health care reform as you imply.

So you are trying to say that somehow Republicans were in favor of health care in 1994?

That isn't try.

Nothing is "transparent" except your attempt to be smear the other side by saying they are lying.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

"* Pelosi's bid for minority leader picks up steam with endorsements from the SEIU and the AFL-CIO."

This woman is now giving a giant party at the taxpayers' expense to celebrate her achievements on November 11th, Veterans Day. Is there no end to her clueless arrogance. I was in Vietnam two tours and in the Gulf War and I regard this as a personal insult.

Posted by: djman1141 | November 8, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Bayh is operating under the delusion that Dems are going to get really tired of Obama and beg him to run in the primary.

Then he'll ride in on a white horse (or maybe scooter) and save the day.

He's not very smart. As a nut, he fell really, really far from the tree.

Posted by: BGinCHI | November 8, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Chuck

What is "transparent" is you are trying to smear the Tea Party with something.

Besides, the Tea Party now is not really extremist. They represent the center of America.

It is the liberals who are far-left. The liberals appear to believe that only other people living in the country are to the left of them.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

djman1141:

At least she won't be flying in any of the big government jets all by herself anymore ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Jake

One thing worth noting, Bernie left but so did Ethan - maybe they were both ASTROTURF

It is possible, to see who disappears

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

BeautifulBeginning:

I wouldn't doubt if one or both of them were being paid by George Soros to post here. Bernie was just a little TOO over the top about "right-wing" propaganda!

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

"Pelosi's bid for minority leader picks up steam with endorsements from the SEIU..."

Looks like this Democrat is sticking to her beliefs.

Meanwhile, in re Mitt Romney, who the heck is Mitt Romney? Oh yeah, I remember, the pre-TP Republican, deconstructed, so out of style nowadays.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 8, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

djman1141, it's to celebrate the accomplishments of the 111th Congress.

I consider it a personal insult that the GOP blocked, or tried to block, those accomplishments.

But being personally insulted really doesn't have anything to do with it, does it?

Posted by: BGinCHI | November 8, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, Obama finds Romney an inspiration? I think its no surprise to anyone here who has extreme views.

Yes, it *is* a shame that the GOP couldn't get behind HCR.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | November 8, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Here are the highlights from the newest batch of documents, which JudicialWatch obtained pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed on January 25, 2009:

Pelosi used the Air Force aircraft for a total of 85 trips, covering 206,264 miles, from March 2, 2009 through June 7, 2010. Pelosi, her guests and Air Force personnel logged a total of 428.6 hours on these flights.

Members of Pelosi’s family were guests on at least two flights. On June 20, 2009, Speaker Pelosi’s daughter, son-in-law and two grandsons joined a flight from Andrews Air Force Base to San Francisco International Air Port. That flight included $143 in on-flight expenses for food and other items. On July 2, 2010, Pelosi took her grandson on a flight from Andrews Air Force Base to Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, California, which is northeast of San Francisco.

As regular readers of the Update may recall, according to previous documents uncovered by Judicial Watch, the Speaker’s military travel cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 over a two-year period — $101,429.14 of which was for in-flight expenses, including food and alcohol. Seriously, review these documents for yourself and you can see that Nancy Pelosi repeatedly turned indispensible Air Force aircraft into congressional party planes.

For example, purchases for one Pelosi-led congressional delegation traveling from Washington, DC, through Tel Aviv, Israel to Baghdad, Iraq May 15-20, 2008, included: Johnny Walker Red scotch, Grey Goose vodka, E&J brandy, Bailey’s Irish Crème, Maker’s Mark whiskey, Courvoisier cognac, Bacardi Light rum, Jim Beam whiskey, Beefeater gin, Dewar’s scotch, Bombay Sapphire gin, Jack Daniels whiskey, Corona beer and several bottles of wine.

Judicial Watch also previously uncovered internal Department of Defense (DOD) email correspondence detailing attempts by DOD staff to accommodate Pelosi’s numerous requests for military escorts and military aircraft as well as the Speaker’s last minute cancellations and changes.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/weeklyupdate/2010/41-air-pelosi-frequent-flyer-update

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't it the Dems that passed health care reform, including $500 billion in cuts to Medicare? What was the response of the GOP to these cuts?

Posted by:pragmaticagain|November 8,2010
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The above was in response to a skipsailing28 post lamenting that liberals here never get around to discussing spending cuts.

Refresh my memory. When is the $500 billion cut to Medicare scheduled to take effect?

Posted by: Brigade | November 8, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Brigade and Jake

Obama is out of the country right now.

Is there any way to examine his passport/visa papers?

If Obama's passport is no good, or his visa is no good - then Obama would not be allowed back in the country.


May seem far fetched, but it sure seems like a possibility.

Besides, Obama is probably still a citizen of Indonesia, ironically EXACTLY where Obama is going next.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

"Johnny Walker Red scotch, Grey Goose vodka, E&J brandy, Bailey’s Irish Crème, Maker’s Mark whiskey, Courvoisier cognac, Bacardi Light rum, Jim Beam whiskey, Beefeater gin, Dewar’s scotch, Bombay Sapphire gin, Jack Daniels whiskey, Corona beer and several bottles of wine."

That's what John Boehner calls "a couple of before-dinner drinks."

More to follow . . .

Posted by: bearclaw1 | November 8, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I notice a surprising lack of intellectual consistency from some of the liberals who post here. It seems that whatever Obama/Reid/Pelosi want to do for the economy will be the correct policy, regardless of what it may be. If they want to pump more stimulus money into the economy that would be good---the more the better; we can't worry about the deficit as long as the economy's in a funk. On the other hand, if they want to suck money out of the economy by letting the Bush tax cuts expire, that would be good, too; then we could reduce the deficit. Or on the third hand, if they decide to extend the Bush tax cuts, some or all, that would also be good. They can do no wrong, no matter what they do, even if they flip a coin and choose from proposals that contradict one another.

Of course anything proposed by the new Republican House will undoubtedly be cruel and heartless---widows and orphans in the streets, the environment destroyed---no matter what it is.

Posted by: Brigade | November 8, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

The great mass of the Medicare cuts are projected savings, not actual cuts, except for the Advantage program, but even that is *controversial* the projected savings I mean.
Slicing and dicing silos is not health care reform and does not save money.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 8, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Bearclaw

Please leave Agent Orange alone, until at least he take office and has a honeymoon

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

From the CHICAGO TRIBUNE:

"DES MOINES, Iowa — Wellmark Blue Cross Blue Shield is no longer selling insurance policies that cover only children.

The Des Moines Register reports that the state's main health insurer announced the plan Friday.

The company says several other insurers have ended child-only policies after the federal government banned them from denying policies to kids with pre-existing conditions.

Spokesman Rob Schweers says Wellmark couldn't afford to be the only insurer in Iowa for families that wait to get coverage until their children develop health problems."
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Once nice thing about not being able to buy insurance: you won't be turned down for pre-existing conditions or any other reason.

Posted by: Brigade | November 8, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Judicial Watch is calling this “Pelosi’s Air Force Scandal.” The group may well feel scandalized, but the truth is that Hastert’s spending was much the same — a fact Judicial Watch overlooked. We did our own apples-to-apples comparison, leaving out speaker shuttles (which are not congressional delegations) and counting all of the CODELs in Judicial Watch’s documents. By our count, the nine Pelosi CODELs represented in the documents spent about $110,000, after the Air Force was reimbursed for expenditures for which it wasn’t responsible (such as overseas meals and lodging and spouses’ expenses). The eight Hastert CODELs spent about $73,000. The costs per official participant were remarkably similar — about $310 for Pelosi CODELs and $302 for Hastert CODELs. Counting in the cost of military air travel, the nine Pelosi CODELs cost $2.4 million. The eight Hastert CODELs cost $2.7 million, not including the air travel costs for one trip, which were not available.

The liquor receipts for Pelosi and Hastert CODELs also are markedly similar. There’s some variation in particular brands — we never saw a Hastert CODEL stock Starbucks coffee liqueur, as Pelosi’s April 2007 trip did. But international CODELs routinely show receipts for hundreds of dollars worth of top-shelf alcohol, as well as beer and wine.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

I trust that John Boehner, noted teetotaler, won't be running up similar charges. Pffffffftttt . . .

Posted by: bearclaw1 | November 8, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Refresh my memory. When is the $500 billion cut to Medicare scheduled to take effect?
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Fair enough...why were Republicans so critical of cuts that were never coming?

Posted by: ashotinthedark | November 8, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Pelosi doesn't drink.

Something she has in common with John Boehner. Pffffftttt!

Posted by: bearclaw1 | November 8, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I thought Blue Cross Blue Shield was just for rich people and Union Members.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 8, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough...why were Republicans so critical of cuts that were never coming?

Posted by: ashotinthedark | November 8, 2010 7:39 PM
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When we look at a shift from about 50/50 in 2008 to something like +26% in favor of the GOP among senior voters in the election last week, I can see why Republicans were critical of the "cuts". It's more difficult to understand why Dems chose this ruse as a way to get a proper CBO score for HCR. It cost them dearly.

Posted by: Brigade | November 8, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

According to Joe Scarborough, House minority leader John Boehner is a lazy bar fly, and maybe worse. On Wednesday's "Morning Joe" Scarborough went off on Boehner, a fellow Republican, leaving many viewers wondering if the Republican congressman suffers from alcoholism.

On MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Scarborough said:

"I hear it on the Hill, I'm sure you hear it on the Hill all the time, it's not reported. But so many Republicans tell me that this is a guy that is not the hardest worker in the world."

"After five o'clock, six o'clock at night he's disengaged -- at best," Scarborough continued. "You can see him around town. He does not have, let's say, the work hours of Newt Gingrich. ... Every Republican I talk to says that John Boehner, by five or six at night, you can see him at bars."

http://www.examiner.com/progressive-in-portland/scarborough-house-minority-leader-john-boehner-a-lazy-drunk-video

Posted by: bearclaw1 | November 8, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

BeautifulBeginning:

I wish.

bearclaw1:

I trust not (or he will be voted out in two years as well ; )

As for Speaker Hastert, I've stated my position repeatedly, the U.S. was not in a national economic crisis back then.

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

bearclaw, stop that or you're going to make me start liking Boehner.

Posted by: BGinCHI | November 8, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

bearclaw1 wrote,
"According to Joe Scarborough, House minority leader John Boehner is a lazy bar fly, and maybe worse. On Wednesday's "Morning Joe" Scarborough went off on Boehner, a fellow Republican, leaving many viewers wondering if the Republican congressman suffers from alcoholism."
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He went off on Mitch McConnell this morning. Poor ole Joe's an egomaniac seeking to remain in the good graces of his bosses at MSNBC. His idea of a bipartisan lineup isn't a mix of lefties and righties but all lefties except him---and he proves his bipartisanship by bashing Republicans about 80% of the time. If he was half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be running for office instead of running his mouth.

Posted by: Brigade | November 8, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Brigade at 7:34 writes:

I notice a surprising lack of intellectual consistency from some of the liberals who post here. It seems that whatever Obama/Reid/Pelosi want to do for the economy will be the correct policy, regardless of what it may be.

________________________________


That is because the liberals really do not care about economic growth - and the liberals really don't care how their agenda is paid for.

Or whether their wacky liberal ideas are paid for at all.


It really is amazing that the liberals really do not seem to even want to discuss how Obama's health care plan has been a drag on hiring - and has hurt the economy


You would think that somehow the liberals would listen, and try to adjust to these valid complaints. If they try to tell you that the phase-in in 2014 helps, it really only drags out the uncertainty and could actually make things worse.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Besides, Obama is probably still a citizen of Indonesia, ironically EXACTLY where Obama is going next.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 7:32 PM
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Risky move. There may be an old outstanding warrant for him there.

Posted by: Brigade | November 8, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

"If he was half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be running for office instead of running his mouth."

When are you running for office, Brigade?

Posted by: BGinCHI | November 8, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

"...he'd be running for office instead of running his mouth."

What's the difference?

Posted by: shrink2 | November 8, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

"If he was half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be running for office instead of running his mouth."

When are you running for office, Brigade?

Posted by: BGinCHI | November 8, 2010 7:56 PM
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I'm going to primary Obama. Can I expect your support?

Posted by: Brigade | November 8, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Brigade, LOL!!! I will certainly contribute to your filing for President as a Democrat! Also, I thought that the Indonesia part of the trip got canceled because of volcano (not to mention outstanding warrant ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Brigade writes at 7:56

Risky move. There may be an old outstanding warrant for him there.
_____________________________________


Excellent point - if Obama is really a citizen of Indonesia, doesn't he owe income taxes to Indonesia ???


The story is that Obama's step-father adopted him, and Obama became a citizen of Indonesia in that process.

Because there was no "dual citizenship" treaty between the US and Obama, and Obama was under 18 at the time, the adoption made Obama an Indonesian citizen and NOT a US citizen.


Obama's mother may have not cared about this because, she may have known he was born in Africa to begin with.


(The divorce papers of Obama's mother and step-father list Obama as a "child of the marriage" meaning Obama was adopted in Indonesia.)

Because Obama was over 18 at the time of the divorce, Obama was not a subject of the divorce - he kept the citizenship he had when he turned 18 as an Indonesian citizen.

Obama enrolled in Occidental College as Barry Soeroto, his step-father's name.

Obama may have actually traveled to Pakistan during college under an Indonesian passport - because at the time traveling to Pakistan under a US passport was not allowed.


DOES OBAMA OWE INCOME TAXES TO THE INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT ???


I think the best thing to do would be to lock up Obama for the next 2 years, 2 months and 2 weeks - just until all this is sorted out.


What do you think Brigade and Jake?

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

"Bo one likes HCR". Except all the people who like the individual parts of it.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | November 8, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Great idea! (although you wrote "there was no 'dual citizenship' treaty between the US and Obama" did you mean Indonesia?).

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I like knowing there will be no cuts to the doctor payments.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 8, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Thats, "No one likes..." above. Sorry, ya'll.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | November 8, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Jake

I meant there is no "dual citizenship" treaty between the US and Indonesia.

Sorry about that

Does Obama owe the Indonesian government INCOME TAXES???

Did Obama evade any military service requirements in Indonesia???

What would happen if Indonesia tried to arrest Obama, and throw him in jail ??

Half the US would support the move. But what would happen ???


I guess Biden would declare Obama "captured" and unable to discharge his duties.

At that point, what incentive would Biden have to get Obama back? Not much.


HA, the Birthers revenge
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Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

BeautifulBeginning:

Biden and the majority of the Cabinet should seriously consider "25th Amendment remedies".

BTW: all of you Dems who think that Pelosi should get the Minority Leader job just to spite the GOP, some Republicans actually want that for Pelosi, so what is your reaction to that?

http://www.usnews.com/dbimages/master/19323/FE_PR_101105RNC.jpg

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Strange story coming out of India

Apparently, Obama has a chapter of ACORN in India - and they are making noise.

Obama is embarassed at the high profile of his ACORN chapter there - and is downplaying the whole thing. It is basically a nightmare.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Jake

I support Nancy Pelosi - she does a wonderful job for all Republicans around the nation.


yes, 2nd Amendment solutions are not what we need. We need a 25th Amendment solution.

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Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!!

Did you hear about the highly-enriched uranium from a San Diego suburb?

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local-beat/Feds-Remove-Highly-Enriched-Uranium-From-Suburbs-106920588.html

Better add #13:

http://politics.usnews.com/news/washington-whispers/photos/12-things-white-house-visitors-cant-bring-in/10

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 8, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Jake

I support Nancy Pelosi - she does a wonderful job for all Republicans around the nation.


yes, 2nd Amendment solutions are not what we need. We need a 25th Amendment solution.

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Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Re: 25th Amendment-

Good luck getting O to resign. Now, if you are talking about the *other* methods by which a president leaves office or can't discharge his duties, y'all are some sick puppies.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | November 8, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

If he wants me to pronounce it some way other than "Boner" he'd better use some different vowels. The way he wants isn't even the correct German pronunciation.

Perhaps it's pronounced "Throat Wobbler Mangrove."

Posted by: pj_camp | November 8, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

@bb:Besides, the Tea Party now is not really extremist. They represent the center of America.

First there is no such thing as the "tea party" belief system. They have no national platform, organization, or coordination. There is no membership, no nothing. the tea party is 95% republican partisan base voters.

@JD2:More than $65 million was spent specifically trying to attack Newt Gingrich too.

Got any evidence for this claim, you know links to source materials?

Posted by: srw3 | November 8, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

srw3 writes

They have no national platform, organization, or coordination. There is no membership, no nothing. the tea party is 95% republican partisan base voters.


_______________________________

You say they have no membership, and there is "no nothing"


But you know enough about them to say that you are SURE that 95% of them are Republican

Seems like you know "something" about them

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

@JD2:More than $65 million (as a percentage of the total amount in 1996) was spent specifically trying to attack Newt Gingrich too.

Nice walk back, but still no link to verify what you claim...


"As for Speaker Hastert, I've stated my position repeatedly, the U.S. was not in a national economic crisis back then."

So, its ok to waste money as long as there is no "crisis?"

Your total lack of knowledge is showing. The entitlement (SS medicare medicaid) issue which is the major part of the deficit/debt crisis, you know what the tea partiers are whining about, government spending (when they are not saying keep the govt out of my medicare) the US is facing was clear when hastert was speaker.


Posted by: srw3 | November 8, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

ChuckinDenton at 8:56 PM

If Obama is deemed too irrational in order to make clear decisions, there is a situation.

Obama has NOT been making rational decisions since getting into office.

His entire campaign was a fantasy-land of deceptions and lies.


Obama seemed almost annoyed that he had to do anything concerning the economy.

Obama's health care plan appears more like a kama-kazi plan to destroy the democratic party than a sound policy.


Obama is either insane, a madman or some kind of sleeper agent.

No one could do some much damage as he has.


The only way to get him out of office is the 25th Amendment.

Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

REALITY CHECK PEOPLE


Instead of dealing with the problems in this country and starting negotiations with the Republicans, Obama is on television in India dancing with a bunch of children.

Out-of-Touch ???


More like mentally unstable. This is classic denial. Lose an election, and leave the country for 10 days???

How many vacations has Obama been on this year alone??? Anyone have any idea what is going on with him??


Obama sure seems unstable.


Manic - first he tells the country all these wonderful things he is going to do as President - and then by a lark, he actually gets elected.


Except he has no idea what he is doing. And it shows.

All these conditions usually show up at different times with unstable personality disorders.

It's called psychosis.

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Posted by: BeautifulBeginning | November 8, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Beginnings

Yes someone should have Obama checked out. Manic people usually try to sell massive stories backed by nothing

Obama's 2008 platform was a bunch of hot air and Obama didn't even try to do much of it

The financial underpinning of the health care plan is highly suspect and Obama appeared oddly detached from the details.

Obama has been strangely disinterested I'm the economy and he has been ignoring all calls to measure back his programs in order to avoid destroying the democratic party

It's like a madman driving down a dirt road

Every reasonable person would slow down
Obama needs to be checked out

Posted by: OrangeDogs | November 8, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Beginnings

Yes someone should have Obama checked out. Manic people usually try to sell massive stories backed by nothing

Obama's 2008 platform was a bunch of hot air and Obama didn't even try to do much of it

The financial underpinning of the health care plan is highly suspect and Obama appeared oddly detached from the details.

Obama has been strangely disinterested I'm the economy and he has been ignoring all calls to measure back his programs in order to avoid destroying the democratic party

It's like a madman driving down a dirt road

Every reasonable person would slow down
Obama needs to be checked out

Posted by: OrangeDogs | November 8, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Have the democrats come up with any Economic proposals besides spending alot of money in Asia???

Quite remarkable


We are in an Economic crisis and all Obama does is go on vacation.

Posted by: OrangeDogs | November 8, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Have the democrats come up with any Economic proposals besides spending alot of money in Asia???

Quite remarkable


We are in an Economic crisis and all Obama does is go on vacation.

Posted by: OrangeDogs | November 8, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Have the democrats come up with any Economic proposals besides spending alot of money in Asia???

Quite remarkable


We are in an Economic crisis and all Obama does is go on vacation.

Posted by: OrangeDogs | November 8, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and always expecting a different result

Obama has given 200 speeches on health care.

And somehow he thinks the American People are going to support his leftist health care agenda

At what point does this become complete insanity

Then all we hear is "parts are popular ". But the costs of those parts are never polled or told to those polled.

Posted by: OrangeDogs | November 9, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and always expecting a different result

Obama has given 200 speeches on health care.

And somehow he thinks the American People are going to support his leftist health care agenda

At what point does this become complete insanity

Then all we hear is "parts are popular ". But the costs of those parts are never polled or told to those polled.

Posted by: OrangeDogs | November 9, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: edwardzeke | November 9, 2010 1:32 AM | Report abuse


You guys should stop complaining because, one the health care we have now isnt as good as it was supposed to be. also the law has just been signed so give it some time. so if u want to say u have the right to choose tell that to ur congress men or state official. If you do not have insurance and need one You can find full medical coverage at the lowest price check http://bit.ly/bandYw .If you have health insurance and do not care about cost just be happy about it and trust me you are not going to loose anything!


Posted by: kimberlyjoe09 | November 9, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

All, Morning Roundup posted:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/11/the_morning_plum_127.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | November 9, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Ah, 37th's alter egos post until 12:30 a.m. and are fresh up at 8:30. Hope that Crossroads is paying him well.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | November 9, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Back on topic, I guess the Fox News report was accurate, so much for a "phantom" letter:

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/08/fox-exclusive-defeated-democrats-pen-letter-implore-pelosi-step-aside

Posted by: JakeD2 | November 9, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

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