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Posted at 1:45 PM ET, 01/19/2011

Bad polling exaggerates support for repeal

By Greg Sargent

Okay, I noted here yesterday that a clear pattern has emerged when it comes to polling on whether Americans support repealing the health reform law. When pollsters offer respondents a straight choice between full repeal and leaving the law as is, more end up supporting repeal.

But when pollsters ask more nuanced questions that offer a range of options -- such as repealing parts of the law, or even expanding it -- support for full repeal drops significantly. There's no denying that the law is unpopular. The question, though, is whether its unpopularity necessarily translates into direct support for full repeal. More careful polling suggests the answer is No.

New numbers from this week's Washington Post/ABC News poll bear this out yet again. The pollsters first asked people whether they support the law, and found that 45 percent back it, while 50 percent oppose it and 5 percent have no opinion. That latter 55 percent were then offered a range of options as to what they would prefer be done. The breakdown:

Repeal all of it: 18

Repeal parts of it: 19

Wait and see: 17

Less than one in five support full repeal. And this mirrors other examples of the nuanced polling we've seen. The Associated Press released a poll this weekend finding that 43 percent want the law changed so it does more, versus only 26 percent who want it fully repealed. A Marist poll last week found the same, with 35 percent wanting the law expanded versus 30 percent who want it scrapped completely.

Now contrast that with how people respond when they are only offered a choice between full repeal, and keeping the law as it is. Quinnipiac found yesterday that people favor repeal over letting the health bill stand, 48-43. CNN also found that people want full repeal by 50-42. And MSNBC a few moments ago flashed some similar NBC polling that found the public exactly split, with 45 percent favoring repeal and 46 percent opposing it.

When people are offered a straight-up choice between only the two options, the number who support full repeal jumps. But as the more nuanced polling shows, that simply isn't the preferred course of action for many people in that category. People have multiple reasons for disliking the law, but that doesn't mean they want to get rid of it entirely. It's getting clearer and clearer that simplistic polling exaggerates the support for blowing it up.

UPDATE, 2:14 p.m.: The new NBC poll is here, finding that when offered a straight choice, 45 percent support repeal, versus 46 percent who oppose it. The pattern is overwhelmingly clear at this point.

UPDATE, 3:30 p.m.: I checked in with statistics guru Nate Silver to get his thoughts about this, and he agreed that the simpler polling encourages a perception of more support for full repeal, because it doesn't register that many are inclined towards the middle-ground categories.

"There's a lot of middle ground and that's where a lot of the country gravitates, just as was the case really during the health care debate itself," Silver told me. "And the pollsters who are asking better questions are getting better answers."

By Greg Sargent  | January 19, 2011; 1:45 PM ET
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Greg, sorry to hijack your topic so quickly, but:

"Giffords To Be Released From Hospital On Friday"

She is going to a rehab facility.

"Giffords (D-AZ) will be moved from the University Medical Center in Tucson to Houston's Institute of Rehabilitation and Research at Memorial Hermann hospital. "The facility specializes in helping people recuperate from brain injuries," Politico reports."

Amazing!

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 19, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, sue, that's def something worth going OT for.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 19, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse


Greg

Why haven't you banned Liam for participating in a SMEAR campaign against an innocent citizen on the pages of this lofty blog???


Why haven't you banned rukidding (Bobby Lee) for his Racist hate speech on the pages of this lofty blog ???


Why haven't you banned 12barbluesAgain for bringing Cao this blog, knowing exactly what he would do? She did it to act out on her destructive tendencies. She knew what she was doing, and even said she was proud of it and defended on it on the pages of this lofty blog.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

When Giffords is fully cognitive, I hope she rips into Palin.

Posted by: filmnoia | January 19, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't seem to be getting along with the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the People's Republic of China - I wonder what's wrong - they should be pals.

Obama is wearing a red tie. It's secret code.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

The address of the hospital where Giffords will be is 1333 Moursund Street, Houston TX 77030

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 19, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

Do any of the polls break out the percentage of retired people who are on Medicare, who respond to the polls, and want the bill repealed?

I feel retired people, on Medicare, should be excluded from all such polls, because they are not the one's who's health care and lives will be put at risk, if the bill is repealed.

This morning John Boehner took a call from his wife; and she happened to mention that she broke a fingernail, while doing the dishes.

John broke down and sobbed uncontrollable at what his wife was going through.

He then proceeded to work, where he proceeded to pass a Health Care repeal act, that would take away healthcare and homes from millions of poor sick Americans, without shedding a single tear.

He then left to go out for lunch, where he came across a dead bird on the sidewalk, and immediately broke down and almost drowned in his own tears, once more.

The Republican Assault Upon Medical Assistance.
Acronym: TRAUMA.

Speaker Boehner is the Republicans' Weeping TRAUMA Queen.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 19, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

One man's bad poll is another man's deceptive question.

It is a question of honesty.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else catch the Sawyer interview last night?

Her husband seems to handle all this pretty well. I'm sure it takes a certain type of personality to be captain of space shuttles.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | January 19, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

When Giffords is fully cognitive, I hope she rips into Palin.

Posted by: filmnoia | January 19, 2011 2:02 PM

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This comment is UNCIVIL.

It is also inappropriate in the light of all the calls for improved discussions.

The democrats are STILL carrying on with their smear campaign - it is a disgrace.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

more evidence for the stopped clock theory:

""One man's bad poll is another man's deceptive question.

It is a question of honesty.""

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 19, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

When Giffords is fully cognitive, I hope she rips into Palin.
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Whether or not she rips into Mrs. Palin, let's look into our crystal ball:

Ms. Giffords progress in physical therapy will be long and painful. Photos of her will be published worldwide, with inspiring captions as she continues to fight for recovery. There will be heartbreaking photos of her children helping her. Her husband and relatives will give interviews about her gallantry. Some day, she will reenter the House of Representatives to a standing ovation.

Then, there is Mrs. Palin, who will be on her reality TV, able bodied as ever. She will be giving interviews about how she has been victimized and blood libeled by everyone on the left. Her family will continue to milk their new fame by dancing with the stars and public fighting with the likes of Levi Johnston.


Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 19, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Liam

While you are at it, why don't the polls break-out the people who are going to have to PAY for the health care program.

Those not hit with the taxes, take them out of the poll.

See what the polls say then.

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Am I allowed to use the word "hit" now??? When we get so politically correct, one never knows.

I'll strike it out.


OH wait, Am I allowed to use the word "strike" now ???


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow, my greasemonkey is working overtime.

What's Forrest rambling about now? I think both Forrest and Palin should go back to what they're good at, farting in jars and ignoring their kids.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | January 19, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

IN looking for crosstabs on healthcare, I found this nugget. The WaPo/ABC poll shows that on HCR, the public trust Obama & the GOP equally (42% each), but on every other issue polled (economy, deficit, terrorism, afghanistan, middle class & taxes, the President beats the GOP. Wow.

6. Who do you trust to do a better job handling [ITEM] - (Obama) or (the Republicans in Congress)?

1/16/11 - Summary Table*

__________________________________Obama___Reps_
a.The_economy_____________________46______41__
b.The_federal_budget_deficit______44______41__
c.The_threat_of_terrorism_________45______39__
d.The_situation_in_Afghanistan____52______31__
e.Health_care_reform______________42______42__
f.Helping_the_middle_class________51______37__
g.Taxes___________________________44______42__
*Full sample asked item a; half sample asked items b-d; other half sample asked items e-g.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 19, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Forrest Chump Is Like A Box Of Knuckle Heads.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 19, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues

You are showing your hatred again. Sarah Palin had nothing to do with these shootings.

And yet you want to compare and contrast.


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Have you had the guts to own up to your action in bringing Cao to this blog???

You have been accused of purposely bringing him onto this blog - fully aware of what kind of comments he would post.


You have also been accused of being destructive toward this blog - and bringing Cao here is just one part of that destructive behavior.

How do you respond ?


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

"When Giffords is fully cognitive, I hope she rips into Palin.

Posted by: filmnoia | January 19, 2011 2:02 PM

___________________________


This comment is UNCIVIL.

It is also inappropriate in the light of all the calls for improved discussions.

The democrats are STILL carrying on with their smear campaign - it is a disgrace."

I'll double down (just like your gal Sarah)
and say it again (and again). When that happens it will be Palin's political coup de grace. You know, her Waterloo.

Posted by: filmnoia | January 19, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama's tie is more pinko than red.

Same message to the Chinese Communists....


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

So say I am 50 years old and looking forward to getting public option health care (medicare) when I turn 65 along with my other terribly socialist Social Security checks at age 67. Here I went and got all excited that we might get some form of health care for regular folks by what was it 2014 when I am 54, but now even though they passed it they want to repeal it before I can get it so they mostly just want me to have to wait extra years until age 65 to get it?

I'm not sure what sort of plan this is but certainly many people will be in much worse health when they reach 65 so it will cost a lot more to care for them then because we refused to provide proactive care for them now and let their health deteriorate.

Unless, could it be possible, their plan is to kill everyone off before they reach 65? Did anyone ask China to hurry up and sneaky Chinese style stuff EXTRA malamine into the food supply now so we can blow out everyone's kidneys before they can collect on their socialist security? Hmmmm

Posted by: Informative | January 19, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

nice catch, bsimon1

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 19, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

RainForestRising is a "birther troll". Nothing more time-wasting or more disinformation oriented than someone who wants to spam the forums with meaningless drivel. One could only assume he is on the Fox News Network's payroll. How else could he afford to spend all day spreading misinformation?

Posted by: Informative | January 19, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

filmnoia - paranoia - will destroy-ya


Um, I supposed when someone takes the time to point out that another is being uncivil, the polite thing to do is to bring the conversation to a more Civil state.


In person, I would imagine you would be inclined to do just that.

But because we are on the internet, you feel comfortable coming back with an obnoxious, rude comment.

Again, you are being uncivil again.


Giffords husband said he would meet with the parents of the killer.

NOW, in that light of that, you want Giffords to walk out of the hospital and start making partisan, hostile remarks which support the FALSE CHARGES FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SMEAR CAMPAIGN ????

Is that your position???

Why don't you go into the street and just randomly start calling people RACIST ??

Would that make you feel better??


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Lest anyone mistake my purpose in providing the address to this new hospital, it was for sending flowers and get-well cards. Well wishers can also send her an E-Greeting starting Friday:

https://secure1.mhhs.org/egreeting/mhe/egreeting_mhe.asp

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 19, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

But when pollsters ask more nuanced questions that offer a range of options -- such as repealing parts of the law, or even expanding it -- support for full repeal drops significantly.
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Or are the nuanced questions designed to eliminate the problem as a whole, that is focusing on the good parts of a bill, and pretending the bad parts do not exist.

April 1912 Gallup Poll--Titanic Trip

Food

Posted by: PALADIN7E | January 19, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

But when pollsters ask more nuanced questions that offer a range of options -- such as repealing parts of the law, or even expanding it -- support for full repeal drops significantly.
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Or are the nuanced questions designed to eliminate the problem as a whole, that is focusing on the good parts of a bill, and pretending the bad parts do not exist.

April 1912 Gallup Poll--Titanic Trip

Food 90% favorable
Band 85% favorable

Sinking 1% favorable

You can't cherry pick a law which is enforced in its entirety, unless you want to cherry pick which parts of the law are to be enforced.

Posted by: PALADIN7E | January 19, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin had nothing to do with these shootings.And yet you want to compare and contrast. Posted by: RainForestRising
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Republicans have been paramount in (A) Keeping guns in everyones hands (B) keeping health care and mental health services out of the hands of everyone (C) moving jobs overseas and offshore and the shooters father was long term unemployed (D) posted Crosshairs more than once on this Arizona district (E) Used the term reload as a term of aggression for hunting Democrats more than once (F) used the phrase "second amendment solutions" in regards to their opposition to Democrats (G) used the term succeed from the union in states like Texas indicating they felt the disagreement was worthy of the US CIVIL WAR level of aggression.

Nobody is saying Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann or Rich Perry were directly involved in any way but they certainly DID play the RAP MUSIC that got their funky pasty GANG BANGERS all fired up and itching to bring the hurt on some democrats and now there is one in a hospital with a hole in her brain. Coincidence you say? Perhaps. Perhaps not so much.

Posted by: Informative | January 19, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Informative in reply to you at 2:32 PM


UMMMM, you have a problem with the truth.

First, you comment is uncivil and inapproprate.


Next, quoting the Governor of Hawaii, a democrat, who gave an interview to a newspaper is hardly "spreading misinformation," as you claim.

Where is the "misinformation."

All I have been saying is the long-form birth certificate - generated by the hospital - should be released in order to answer many of the questions which have been raised.

That is reasonable - especially given the fact that Obama and the democrats have stated numerous times that they support "transparency."


No democrat has this certificate - so for them to start the name-calling WITHOUT the documentation is just deceptive.


The American People do not need any more deceptions from the democrats - if you have the DOCUMENTATION MEANING THE HOSPITAL GENERATED LONG-FORM, then OK.


Otherwise, you have nothing.

And the name-calling is inappropriate as well.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

One man's nuance is another man's deception.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Here is a simple poll that needs to be taken:

Do you want to go back to letting The Insurance Companies take money from only the healthy, and keep on profiling people's potential health risks, in order to drop them, before they become sick?

Do you favor restoring the Insurance Industry Death Panels who got to decide who should lose their life savings and homes, or just die?

Posted by: Liam-still | January 19, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Polling

to read some of this and the comments, it is a wonder why the democrats lost the November election.

Hey, with poll numbers like this, the democrats should have won the election.

THERE IS A REASON WE PLAY THE GAME.


In this case, we actually held an ELECTION.


The liberals lost. Get over it. The Republicans have hardly been in office a few weeks before a Bush-hating Obama-loving lunatic killed people and started the democrats off on a DECEPTIVE SMEAR CAMPAIGN.


So, this is how the democrats are going to play?


HA.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Informative shows his ignorance at 2:42 by writing:

Nobody is saying Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann or Rich Perry were directly involved in any way but they certainly DID play the RAP MUSIC that got their funky pasty GANG BANGERS all fired up and itching to bring the hurt

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Funny you should actually bring up Rap Music - isn't that what should be banned?


Beyond any hate speech or stupid icons on a map - we have the liberal radio stations pumping out hate-filled, crime-filled, rape-filled RAP MUSIC into the INNER CITIES 24 HOURS A DAY.


What is wrong with the black community and the democrats to let people listen to this garbage???


Then you have the NERVE to complain about Sarah Palin

RAP MUSIC GLORIFIES CRIME - rap music glorifies rape, murder and robbery.


And to say nothing about drug dealing in the inner cities.


You people are COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR MINDS.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 19, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

@filmnoia

"When Giffords is fully cognitive, I hope she rips into Palin."

From where I sit that's a pretty ugly and illiberal sentiment. Considering everything Giffords has been through, why in the name of good sense would you wish for something like that?

Posted by: mmyotis | January 19, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

RainForestRising, if Giffords trashes Palin, then it's possible that she is the Antichrist (head wound, came back from death, etc.)

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 19, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

From where I sit that's a pretty ugly and illiberal sentiment. Considering everything Giffords has been through, why in the name of good sense would you wish for something like that?

Posted by: mmyotis
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Could not agree with you more.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 19, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

All, we have a total of nine House GOPers who have now agreed to drop their taxpayer subsidized health insurance:

http://wapo.st/gTKWg0

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 19, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Take a look at the grotesque comment that Clawrence just posted about Congresswoman Giffords.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 19, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

RainForestRising, if Giffords trashes Palin, then it's possible that she is the Antichrist (head wound, came back from death, etc.)

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 19, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

We're out of our minds, dems! Hey, did you notice what tie Obama was wearing? It was really more of a salmon than a pink. Maybe he just wants seafood at the state dinner?

Posted by: cao091402 | January 19, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"@filmnoia

"When Giffords is fully cognitive, I hope she rips into Palin."

From where I sit that's a pretty ugly and illiberal sentiment."

I guess its how you define "rips". Seems to me when gun totin Sarah had those crosshairs on Giffords Congressional district, Giffords came out and called her on it. I can't take your crocodile tears too seriously.

Posted by: filmnoia | January 19, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

@filmnoia

"When Giffords is fully cognitive, I hope she rips into Palin."

Since I basically agree with you politically filmnoia and enjoy most of your posts..I'm glad you had the smarts to come back quickly and identify that as uncivil. This confirms Clawrence's worst fears about us. We are not really like that..we being progressives. You CAN do better...you are a smart person.

Not to mention if Cong Giffords went TOTALLY out of character(according to all accounts from both R and D House members) and sunk to that level she would then be lowering herself to Palin's level. I'm not afraid she will...she'll take the high road as she always has and leave the low road for Sister Sarah's well worn footsteps.

OK Back on topic. I do not need polls to see where this is headed. The R's are about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory! They are stepping in such a pile of warm dooty with this repeal nonsense that they'll still be digging the smelly stuff off of their soles (perhaps I could have written that souls) when the 2012 rolls around. This is such a MAJOR loser for the R's politically I can't believe smarter heads like Rove even Limbaugh couldn't figure it out. The Dems have already taken the full front assault on health care reform...the Pickett's charge if you will..during the original debate while the bill was being crafted. They've already worn out "pulling the plug on Granny" "Death Panels" "Gov't takeover" as they say they've thrown everything but the kitchen sink at the Dems and Obama. And no it hasn't been Obama's Waterloo but it was certainly the R's Gettysburg. Now they are left wandering around fighting the Battle of the Wildnerness.

The R's will expend plenty of political capital on this Quixotic bit of BS. And what will they have to show for it? Nothing...but a pleased bunch of TPers and Indys once again looking at the party of obstruction...the party of NOTHING. What do the R's have to offer for our health care problems NOTHING! What did the R's offer to solve our Health care crisis after they shot down Clinton's attempt...NOTHING..Dole and a few others TALKED about what is basically our current plan but when Bush took the W.H. and the R's had BOTH Houses of Congress what did the R's do to solve our health care crisis?
NOTHING.....THE GRAND OLE PARTY OF NOTHING.

This is growing ever more apparent to indys and disaffected Dems...the R's offer nothing but more political strife with again NOTHING on the table to solve the problem!!!!

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 19, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Most of the polls are crafted by very liberal leaning organizations. The bias is obvious. Here's the real deal:

The only poll that is foolproof is the voting booth. Remember the SHELLACKING the Obamacrats took?? Of course you do!

Almost all Republicans were anti-Obamacare and most promised to work FOR REPEAL of Obamacare. They were ANTI-Obamacare.

Obamacrats got slaughtered from coast to coast not only at the federal level but at the state and local level as well.

Most Americans want repeal. Just ask the thousands of junior Obamacrats now looking for work.

Posted by: battleground51 | January 19, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

My wish is for a full speedy recovery for Congresswoman Giffords. I see no need to saddle her with the assignment of berating Palin.

Sarah has done a great job in turning more and more Americans off, all by herself.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 19, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I see the diseased sufferers of Palinoia and Paliomania are coughing up their anti-Sarah bile, still.

There's no cure, as yet.

Poor devils!

Posted by: battleground51 | January 19, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Battleground Since you love going down memory lane...."The only poll that is foolproof is the voting booth. Remember the SHELLACKING the R's took at the hands of Obama in 08. It was the most lopsided victory in DECADES!!!!

YEAH FOR BG....Wait for it here it comes BG
Barack HUSSEIN Obama is YOUR PRESIDENT!!!
Would you like to join me in a couple of bars of "Hail to the Chief"?

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 19, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Right you are Battleground.

There is no cure for Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich, and Joe Scarborough.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 19, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah has done a great job in turning more and more Americans off, all by herself"

I'm looking at the middle of the road, non affiliated populace here, which is much of this country. Yes, it probably would be out of character for Giffords to "rip" Palin, and it is probably beating a dead horse at this point. How about that she "educates" the Palins of the world. She's not Weiner or Grayson, but she certainly could reiterate about the intemperate use of gun terminology to demonize people in the general course of political discussion.

Posted by: filmnoia | January 19, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I just wish her a speedy full recovery, and hope that she can get back to doing what she has done in the past.

She has never been a verbal bomb thrower.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 19, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

ruk, I believe that you are misreading filmnoia's post. Take a look again, as filmnoia was QUOTING RainForestRising, definitely not agreeing that it was "uncivil." Regardless, filmnoia is hardly a concern. Did you see what Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) said on the floor of the House last night?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/01/abc-news-jonathan-karl-reports-the-newfound-civility-didnt-last-long-political-rhetoric-in-congress-doesnt-get-much.html

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 19, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

paladin7e writes
"You can't cherry pick a law which is enforced in its entirety, unless you want to cherry pick which parts of the law are to be enforced."

But you can 'cherry pick' the pieces of a law to reform. The Repubs are trying to play it both ways - they want to enthuse the base by holding the vote for repeal, but in the face of aspects of the law that are actually popular (i.e. most of it), they want to retain the good parts & get rid of the bad. What they refuse to face is that the bad parts are also the parts that make the law work, financially. They want to get rid of the mandate, but according to an NPR story this AM, that would cost several billion dollars (I want to say 19, but that's from memory), and they can't find offsets for that cost elsewhere.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 19, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Newly elected House Republicans hell-bent on repealing Obamacare (The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) ought to backpedal a bit, lest they lose credibility and get voted out office in 2012. Their pitch that Obamacare is a “job-killing” socialistic, un-American piece of legislation may have been bought at face value by 56% of the people when the Democrats were in control of the House and the people, worried about losing their jobs, or already unemployed, were in a mood for change. (44%, it should be noted, were not swayed.) Though no one really knew the details of the mammoth 2.500 page Act, the Republican pitch sounded true at the time. But now that they are in control, House Republicans will be compelled to explain to their constituents exactly why Obamacare is the “job killer” they say. Hard facts, the nitty-gritty in dollars and cents, not more bloated rhetoric, is what they will be expected to produce.

And it could well turn out that once their constituents become better acquainted the Act, that manywill approve of it; that it is not a job killer, but a job creator, as the Congressional Budget Office suggests. In which case the Republicans will come off as demagogues who had played on the emotions of the people to get themselves elected.

Furthermore, since their repeal would not pass the Democratic controlled Senate, and even if it did, President Obama would veto it out of hand, House Republicans will be hard pressed to explain why they are wasting so much time playing a political game when there is so much business vital to the immediate welfare of the nation pending. And, by the same token, Republican state attorneys general intent on challenging the Constitutionality of Obamacare will have to explain to taxpayers what there is to gain for their costly legalistic efforts, which have no chance of succeeding, either.

Republicans at all levels should take note: Most Americans in these hard times couldn’t care less about political ideology, future budget deficits, the national debt, global commitments, or other such issues which they, nor do most politicos, fully understand. The daily struggle for survival in the here and now, that’s the overriding concern of the American people. As President Clinton’s campaign adviser James Carville famously put it a generation ago, “it’s the economy, stupid.”

Posted by: Carlossss | January 19, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm retired and I have grand kids who are about to finish college this spring. My Son will be able to keep his kid on his policy until 26. This is a godsend for his fiscal situation. In terms of these polls they're so many of them. I realize that a legitimate poll consists of about 1,500 people. How do the pollsters determine whom to poll. I would assume that it would be random. I find it ironic, that since I've been eligible to vote in 1968 and have voted since then. I have yet to be contacted by any pollster. I have two phones which are listed. So, I'm just curious. Do they go by geographical area or exactly how do they determine this random sample. I feel like I'm not part of the process. What is going on.

Posted by: tegeagent007 | January 19, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Seconded o Giffords Palin. Let her speak calmly and factually, with the crosshairs map projected behind her, zooming in on her district, replaying her "words have consequences" video, then showing her today, recovering from a bullet in the head. No inference required, no stretching, no embellishment, no actual blaming. The optics are more than enough.

Let Palin go to a hotel room and quietly hemmorhage into green goo.

Posted by: caothien9 | January 19, 2011 9:52 PM | Report abuse

The American Health care system is Broken.

I just came back from Thailand where I got a complete physical: Blood work, EKG, CAVI test, Upper and Lower abdominal ultrasound, chest Xray, Cardio Stress Test, Urinalysis, Stool Examination, eye examination...all for $400!!!
Just the Stress Test alone would have cost $3000-$4000 in the US.

Americans are getting ripped off by the medical profession and the sad part about it is that they are blissfully ignorant about how expensive their "free market" health care system is.

Another thing about Thailand is hospitals post their costs for everything from a colonoscopy to heart bypass surgery so you can compare the cost at different hospitals.

You won't ever find a price list by any doctor or hospital in the US. It's all very secret. You can't compare or shop for better rates. The US medical profession doesn't want any comparison shopping that would force doctors and hospitals to compete with other providers on price.

Another reason why I've been going to Thailand is that it has a public health care system that is free for everyone and a private system that provides better service and more options if you are willing to pay for it. The private option is still much cheaper than in the US because the public option forces it to be competitive in order to woo patients.
Two years ago I had a condition called Esophageal dysphagia. The throat doctor in my hometown in California said he could fix the problem for $2500 in his office. I went to a Thai PUBLIC HOSPITAL (used my US passport as ID) and had the surgery done for $100...including the doctor and the anesthesiologist!!!!

Posted by: naksuthin | January 19, 2011 10:20 PM | Report abuse

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