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Posted at 11:47 AM ET, 01/27/2011

Obama didn't use phrase "American exceptionalism," so he must not believe in it

By Greg Sargent

Ben Smith catches John Boehner on Parker-Spitzer last night, nodding along with Kathleen Parker, who laments that Obama didn't talk about "American exceptionalism" during his State of the Union:

PARKER: You know one of the words that I listened out for in his speech last night was the word exceptional. I heard him use it when -- in Tucson. In Tucson, of course, it's been this horrific event for the whole country.

But I didn't hear him say it and I thought at a time when you're building a speech around sort of defining the common purpose of America, that seemed to me a rather -- you know, a simple direct line, fairly -- pretty much a no-brainer, but he didn't say it.

BOEHNER: Well, they -- they've refused to talk about America exceptionalism. We are different than the rest of the world. Why? Because Americans have -- the country was built on an idea that ordinary people could decide what their government looked like and ordinary people could elect their own leaders.

And 235 years ago that was a pretty novel idea. And so we are different. Why is our economy still 20 times the size of China's? Because Americans have had their freedom to succeed, the freedom to fail. We've got more innovators, more entrepreneurs, and that is exceptional but you can't get the left to talk about it. They don't -- they reject that notion.

PARKER: Why do you think that is?

BOEHNER: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if they're afraid of it, whether they don't believe it. I don't know.

Parker and Boehner are absolutely right: Obama never once uttered the phrase "American exceptionalism" or any variant of it. But he did describe America as "the greatest nation on Earth." Despite Boehner's insistence that Obama didn't lavish sufficient praise on America's mighty economy, Obama also said: "For all the naysayers predicting our decline, America still has the largest, most prosperous economy in the world."

And despite Boehner's claim that "they" don't talk about the fact that America was founded on a "novel idea," Obama said: "We are the first nation to be founded for the sake of an idea -- the idea that each of us deserves the chance to shape our own destiny."

Obama also said: "What we can do -- what America does better than anyone else -- is spark the creativity and imagination of our people." The key phrase there is "better than anyone else."

What's amusing about this ongoing assertion from the right is how easily debunked it is, and how casually its proponents simply pretend that the historical record doesn't exist. In the real world Obama has hailed America dozens of times as the biggest, baddest, bestest, richest and most awesomely powerful country in the history of the world. But no matter. Bill Kristol recently made the laughable claim that Obama's recent use of the phrase "greatest nation on earth" revealed a "new, revised Obama," even though he's used that phrase or variants of it for literally years now.

I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion that these people would prefer that Obama didn't use such language, and are repeating this claim again and again in hopes of making it so.

By Greg Sargent  | January 27, 2011; 11:47 AM ET
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WHERES MY MORNING PLUM i am dying greg. :(

Posted by: adammc123 | January 27, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

They're big believers in magic words. If it's not said the right way, the magic doesn't happen!

Kind of like substituting "death tax" for "estate tax." Dead people don't write checks. The ethos of the world has long been, "well, now that he's dead, who gets his stuff?" "Death tax" is just a magic word combination to distract from the idea that people who had the good luck in the birth lottery to be related to someone who made good before he shuffled off this mortal coil should for some reason get this type of income tax-free, while the working grunts pay full freight on every penny they earn.

The unfortunate thing is that they have so many followers who believe in the power of magic words.

Posted by: JennOfArk | January 27, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

They're big believers in magic words. If it's not said the right way, the magic doesn't happen!

Kind of like substituting "death tax" for "estate tax." Dead people don't write checks. The ethos of the world has long been, "well, now that he's dead, who gets his stuff?" "Death tax" is just a magic word combination to distract from the idea that people who had the good luck in the birth lottery to be related to someone who made good before he shuffled off this mortal coil should for some reason get this type of income tax-free, while the working grunts pay full freight on every penny they earn.

The unfortunate thing is that they have so many followers who believe in the power of magic words.

Posted by: JennOfArk | January 27, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

WHERES MY MORNING PLUM i am dying greg. :(

Posted by: adammc123 | January 27, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

They're big believers in magic words. If it's not said the right way, the magic doesn't happen!

Kind of like substituting "death tax" for "estate tax." Dead people don't write checks. The ethos of the world has long been, "well, now that he's dead, who gets his stuff?" "Death tax" is just a magic word combination to distract from the idea that people who had the good luck in the birth lottery to be related to someone who made good before he shuffled off this mortal coil should for some reason get this type of income tax-free, while the working grunts pay full freight on every penny they earn.

The unfortunate thing is that they have so many followers who believe in the power of magic words.

Posted by: JennOfArk | January 27, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

UMM, only a Socialist praises China and Russia -

and gags everytime he has to say something good about AMERICA.

.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 27, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

WHERES MY MORNING PLUM i am dying greg. :(

Posted by: adammc123 | January 27, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"In the real world Obama has hailed America dozens of times as the biggest, baddest, bestest, richest and most awesomely powerful country in the history of the world."

Darn right! (Now let's see how many of Greg's liberal commentors feel compelled to qualify that sentiment...)

Perhaps Boner reads too much Yglesias? To him, these portions of Obama's speech represent "meaningless nationalism":

"When America Is Number 2

"I don’t begrudge a president making a formal speech the chance to engage in some meaningless nationalism, but something I thought was really striking about Barack Obama’s speech last night was how utterly unprepared American political culture is for the idea of a world in which we’re not Top Nation."

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/01/when-america-is-number-2/

Posted by: sbj3 | January 27, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse


UMM, only a Socialist praises China and Russia -

and gags everytime he has to say something good about AMERICA.


.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 27, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

adam and others, I regret to inform you that there won't be any morning plum today...

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 27, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Um, also...the US economy is not 20 times the size of China's. Its 3 times the size and is projected to be smaller in about 10 or 12 years. Is Boehner this dumb? I thought these kinds of statements were more Bachmann/Palin fare.

Posted by: jbossch | January 27, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS


OBAMA PUT SOCIAL SECURITY IN THE RED


The deal Obama made last month - the one in which no one was talking about Social Security - is PUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY IN THE RED.


Obama has to be kidding. He is the worst President since the Civil War.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 27, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are playing House. But they are not going to get into the White House again until they stop thinking November will happen again because November happened. 2008 happened too, that did not stop 11/10 from happening.

The Republicans are headed for disaster in 2012 and 2016 is a long time from now. Maybe they don't care, after all, they are having a great time playing House and it is fun to talk about 2010, the Great Shellacking and attack Obama all day every day. 2016 is far, far away, maybe they'll get serious by then.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 27, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Just to clarify, no morning plum because of the blackout :)

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 27, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

He also didn't mention baby bunnies, flowers, orphans, Betty White or Santa Claus. Pretty safe to assume he hates all of those things, too.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | January 27, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I think people should know about Bob McDonnells failure in leadership in regards to the snow storm.

Thousands of people were stranded last night because of the incompetence of his administration. There were no emergency vehicles to be seen.

Where was the state of emergency?

Where was the Gov? What an utter failure.

This is what happens when Republicans take over. They talk a good talk but when it comes to actually doing something they are nowhere to be seen.

There should have been double the trucks for this snow storm on the roads. 22 trunks for NoVA is unacceptable.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | January 27, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

This is the kind of laughably pathetic claim that makes me really hate politics, and particularly the media - who lovingly let this s#!t slide for the sake of "news-tainment".

F-you Parker, you simple minded waste of a prime time slot.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | January 27, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"BOEHNER: Well, they -- they've refused to talk about America exceptionalism. We are different than the rest of the world. Why? Because Americans have -- the country was built on an idea that ordinary people could decide what their government looked like and ordinary people could elect their own leaders."

So lets eliminate publicly financed elections so that corporations and big money doners can finance all the politicians.

Lets deregulate and let money run the nation!

What a hypocrite. he doesn't care one bit about ordinary people unless they can put millions in his campaign coffers...

Posted by: soapm | January 27, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

They talk a good talk but when it comes to actually doing something they are nowhere to be seen.

There should have been double the trucks for this snow storm on the roads. 22 trunks for NoVA is unacceptable.
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My goodness, Mike, if you worked hard enough you could afford your own truck, or even better a tank, that would allow you to move around in the snow without having to rely on the government.
You just want to immorally steal other people's money to bail yourself and other non-producers out of the snow. ;)

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 27, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"Obama has to be kidding. He is the worst President since the Civil War."

You showed your true colors on that one.

PS... Taking up arms against our government is treason according to the constitution. This means the south was guilty of treason and not some kind of patriot. We settle our differences at the ballot box... That's if you really care about the constitution and not some documents Jefferson (one founding father) wrote about liberty...

Posted by: soapm | January 27, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Kathleen Parker has gotten in touch with her inner Palin.

She failed to hear President Obama point out that only in America could three guys, Biden, Boehner, and himself, have risen from such humble origins, to the three exalted positions of power they currently occupy.

The First Lady and The President, are the living embodiment of American Exceptionalism.

Open your eyes, and close your mouth Kathleen, in order to keep your inner Palin from spouting such
absurd drivel.

An African American First Lady, from a working class humble background, who was born into a Chicago that was racially segregated, is the visual proof, to all the world, of how exceptional America has become, for all the world to see, except for the likes of the willfully blind Kathleen Parker, and her Inner Palin.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 27, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Here's some American Exceptionalism fer ya'

-United States dead last: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65M0SU20100623
-Finland and China beat us:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6112048/international_test_show_united_states.html
-Child mortality:
http://gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_7a5a54d6-678f-11df-a45e-001cc4c002e0.html

Yeah, but we have the awesomest military kicking the most a##. Yay, America!

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | January 27, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

lol

Last night was insane. Not sure if anyone is familiar with Rt. 28....

Took me first 2 hrs to get onto it then when I was on it, I almost couldn't get off because of stranded vehicles on every single off ramp. The ramp to the toll road from 28 was impassable. Stuck and stranded vehicles were blocking the ramp.

6 hrs to go 9 miles. I saw dozens of abandoned vehicles and people just walking all over on major road ways probably from cars stuck and or outta gas.

What a disaster. I'm surprised the press isn't asking Gov. Bob McDonnell wtf happened?

Posted by: mikefromArlington | January 27, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

"So lets eliminate publicly financed elections so that corporations and big money doners can finance all the politicians."

Ronald Reagan wouldn't have been President.

"In his 1976 presidential primary campaign, Ronald Reagan had less than $44,000 in campaign money at the end of January of 1976, while his opponent, incumbent President Gerald Ford had fifteen times more cash on hand. The $1 million in public funds that Reagan received in January and $1.2 million that he received in February were essential in allowing him to continue his campaign. Reagan was once again short of cash at the end of March and was allowed to continue as a result of an infusion of public money."

Posted by: shrink2 | January 27, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

What a disaster. I'm surprised the press isn't asking Gov. Bob McDonnell wtf happened?

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They probably can't get to work, turn on their computers. 6 hours to go 9 miles? that's insanity.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 27, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

We can all tend to get literal minded at times. On MSNBC's post SOTU coverage, Barbara Boxer was asked to respond to the fact that Obama never once said the words global warming in his speech. She immediately pointed to a whole list of things he talked about that were just another way of talking about GW without triggering the automatic response to those two specific words. It was a smart answer and showed the kind of mental quickness we could all use.

Posted by: AllButCertain | January 27, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The drive home back into Arlington was unreal. At least 40+ cars stranded on the toll road still this morning around 9am. And that's just on the lanes. Some off ramps off of the toll road had 5+ cars all jammed together facing all different directions.

Whomever Gov. McDonnell had in charge of this needs to be answering questions. It was outrageous.

I mean, myself and 5 other guys had to unjam the entrance to Rt 28, pushing around half a dozen cars up a hill. No emergency vehicles anywhere. Anyone who would have been an elder in traffic yesterday must have been terrified.

Plus, half way to where I was going, my left wiper got stuck. I had to lean over to the right an drive down a barely drivable road because of spinning out and abandoned cars.

Anyways, enough of the snow disaster...

Parker is a twit.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | January 27, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Did he talk about anything that might have been a quick proxy for dealing with the foreclosure crisis?

Posted by: shrink2 | January 27, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Blackout???


If it was a Whiteout, we'd get a morning plum, right???

RACIST AGAIN


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 27, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

There's a first time for every thing:

Barbara Boxer and mental quickness used in the same sentence.

Posted by: sbj3 | January 27, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama did mention the foreclosure crisis

OR his efforts to deal with the banks - who do not have the right paperwork

OR what Obama is doing to curb the worst abuses of the banks since 2008

Zero economic plan from Obama


This dude Obama is WORTHLESS.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 27, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey Forrest, you never responded why paid bloggers force you to double space and use random CAPS.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | January 27, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Which leaves the score; Barbara Boxer One, SBJ, Zero.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 27, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"He also didn't mention baby bunnies, flowers, orphans, Betty White or Santa Claus. Pretty safe to assume he hates all of those things, too."

He didn't mention RainForestRising either, which pretty much says it all.

Posted by: mmyotis | January 27, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"Obama didn't use phrase "American exceptionalism," so he must not believe in it"

Critics promoting this line of thinking are the same people who are trying to divide us into 'us' vs 'them' rather than working together to solve common problems.

Another telling phrase on the subject, from SOTU, was when the President noted that nobody in the room wanted to live anywhere else. That Boehner's & Parker's biggest criticism is that the Obama didn't use the conservative dog-whistle of 'American Exceptionalism' is very telling. Its somewhat comical that they're, on the one hand, talking aout liberty, freedom & individuality while on the other, criticizing the guy for not using words from the list of preferred phrases. Its another manufactured controversy, like flag lapel pins, that puts the trivial and frivolous ahead of solving the real problems we face.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 27, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Lodged deep in the amygdala of the American conservative is the sense that he and his ilk have a monopoly on patriotism. No amount of contradictory inputs from the real world are going to change that.

Posted by: bmoodie | January 27, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe I haven't been sent an email or seen a post contrasting how many times Obama said I or me vs. how many times he said exceptionalism. Those emails always convinced me of whatever point it was that they were trying to make.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 27, 2011 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey sbj, remember Carly Fiorina? no one else does. Who are you people going to run for the Presidency? I ask this every other week and as time goes by, the answers become more obscure, or there are none. So I think the Rs are happy with what they got a couple months ago and it felt so good they are going to stand pat until 2014. Then they'll get the Senate and after that, they'll get serious for 2016.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 27, 2011 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Other than having a couple of loose nukes floating around over here and there, the things that USED to make America exceptional ARE GONE! DONE. FINISHED.. CA-PUT.

The media and stupidity solved that crisis back during Ronnie Raygun's rule was dictator.

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | January 27, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

All, looks like the scaled down package of filibuster reforms is a done deal:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/01/scaled_down_filibuster_reform.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 27, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Greg:

""But he did describe America as "the greatest nation on Earth." ""

I'm surprised we haven't heard from Bernie about that.

""And despite Boehner's claim that "they" don't talk about the fact that America was founded on a "novel idea"...""

Read it again, Greg. Boehner made no such claim.

BTW, what do you think of the notion of American exceptionalism, Greg?

Posted by: ScottC3 | January 27, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

@Liam: "Which leaves the score; Barbara Boxer One, SBJ, Zero."

Touche, my friend!

Posted by: sbj3 | January 27, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I of course didn't mean to suggest that Boehner and Parker's seeming obtuseness wasn't intentional. They are always driving the talking points.

Posted by: AllButCertain | January 27, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

amygdala, wrong neural nucleus.

Complex core beliefs (such as having a monopoly on patriotism) are transacted through the hippocampus, the amygdala is more primitive, more involved with instinctual, subconscious motivation, fundamental wishes and fears and strong emotional drivers.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 27, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Parker is usually swifter than that, and that dialogue was a little too smooth. Given her looks, and Boehner's reputation, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a story behind those two.

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | January 27, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

shrink:

"" So I think the Rs are happy with what they got a couple months ago and it felt so good they are going to stand pat until 2014. Then they'll get the Senate and after that, they'll get serious for 2016.""

You are probably right, but 2 years is a long time in politics. Lots could happen between now and 2012 to change the landscape.

Posted by: ScottC3 | January 27, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Kathleen Parker must be auditioning for a gig on Fox. I usually like and respect her, but that line is ridiculous.

Posted by: KathleenHusseininMaine | January 27, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

A few other gems from the interview:

"BOEHNER: Well, if you really want to talk about what the Sputnik moment is, it's the fact that we're broke.

PARKER: Yes. "

Don't think you should ask if that's actually true, Kathleen, or explore the role Boehner's party played in that?

"PARKER: And would you cut Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security?

BOEHNER: If we lead with our chin, nothing happens...."

So he doesn't say yes or no. But Parker does follow up his non-answer by asking about raising the retirement age which Boehner answers with:

BOEHNER: I don't -- I made a mistake when I did that because I think having the conversation about how big the problem is is the first step.

So we have to talk about the problem before we have a solution, even though he said earlier that Americans know we are broke.

To Boehner's credit, he does seem to admit that taxes will have to be raised.

"PARKER: Well, none of us really likes to sit in a boring room all night, but, you know, you turned down the state dinner with China's President Hu Jintao.

BOEHNER: I was meeting with him the next day. I was hosting him here in the Capitol and I really didn't see any reason to have -- to go have dinner the night before and then host a meeting up here the next day. I knew I was going to have my chance to talk to him.

PARKER: So you don't want to see people two days in a row?"

A nice series of questions that tees up Boehner's response to criticism for not going to the dinner with China's President.

Just some awesome journalism. But yeah, the media is so slanted to Liberals.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 27, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

SBJ3
"And despite Boehner's claim that "they" don't talk about the fact that America was founded on a "novel idea"...""

Read it again, Greg. Boehner made no such claim.

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Boehner does say that. He says "235 years ago that was a pretty novel idea" He then elaborates on what that novel idea was and says the left doesn't want to talk about it, that the left rejects it.

If not, what is Boehner saying the left won't talk about or is rejecting?

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 27, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"Given her looks, and Boehner's reputation, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a story behind those two."

Ewwwwww....................

Posted by: schrodingerscat | January 27, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey look, its little Miss Calumny, Jenn of Ark.
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They're big believers in magic words. If it's not said the right way, the magic doesn't happen!

Kind of like substituting "death tax" for "estate tax." Dead people don't write checks. The ethos of the world has long been, "well, now that he's dead, who gets his stuff?" "Death tax" is just a magic word combination to distract from the idea that people who had the good luck in the birth lottery to be related to someone who made good before he shuffled off this mortal coil should for some reason get this type of income tax-free, while the working grunts pay full freight on every penny they earn.

The unfortunate thing is that they have so many followers who believe in the power of magic words.

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Sad to say, the ugliness you posted during the left's calumny-a-thon elminates you from the grand prize. No tiara and roses for you honey.

Now to the contents of your comment.

First, when will folks like you come to realize that the vast majority of people who are "rich" in America got that way by working harder than you did? If you are envious, and that certainly seems to be the case, why not shut up and get to work. It isn't the lottery of life honey, it is good old hard word and perseverence. Maybe you've heard them spoken of elsewhere.

Tell me, dearie, what are the moral and ethical underpinnings of your demand that the government confiscate the hard earned money of the newly deceased? Do Americans not have any right to expect that they may do as they please with the money they earn?

Oh wait, you're a liberal and the underlying mindset of the American left is that all the money belongs to the government and that it is only through the good graces of Obama's friends that anyone gets any.

Sounds a bit like Tunsia, wouldn't you say sweetheart?

Frankly I think the left's opponents would do well to bring up the calumny-a-thon frequently. It is just such a perfect example of the explosive combination of out right lies and group think.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 27, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s SOTU Address: Least Smart Since FDR
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2011/01/keeping_it_simple_obama_record.php

"President Obama now has the LOWEST average Flesch-Kincaid score for State of the Union addresses of any modern president — with his 8.5 grade level falling just below the 8.6 score recorded by George H.W. Bush during his presidency."

*wicked smaht*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 27, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s SOTU Address: Least Smart Since FDR
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2011/01/keeping_it_simple_obama_record.php

"President Obama now has the LOWEST average Flesch-Kincaid score for State of the Union addresses of any modern president — with his 8.5 grade level falling just below the 8.6 score recorded by George H.W. Bush during his presidency."

*wicked smaht*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 27, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

ashot:

""If not, what is Boehner saying the left won't talk about or is rejecting?""

He says that the left won't talk about American exceptionalism.

There is a difference between, for example, acknowledging the history of the nation (founded on an idea) and proclaiming that it makes the nation exceptional. Many on The left will acknowledge the former, but it is not clear to me that they accept the latter.

Posted by: ScottC3 | January 27, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

UMM, only a Socialist praises China and Russia -and gags everytime he has to say something good about AMERICA.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 27, 2011 12:06 PM

Well, that explains the GOP since Nixon, the US Chamber of Commerce, and the business roundtable. From the mouths of babes.

Posted by: sparkplug1 | January 27, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of how "smart" Obama's most recent SOTU was, at least he had the good sense not to give the identical one again.

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | January 27, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

There is a difference between, for example, acknowledging the history of the nation (founded on an idea) and proclaiming that it makes the nation exceptional. Many on The left will acknowledge the former, but it is not clear to me that they accept the latter.

Posted by: ScottC3
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But doesn't Boehner say that's what makes us exception? That we are built on a novel idea?

Anyway, you are claim is largely refuted by the quotes from Obama's SOTU which, while not using the word exceptional, references on several occasions, once using Boehner's life story, that only certain things can happen here.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 27, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28 2:04 PM
...the vast majority of people who are "rich" in America got that way by working harder than you did? You, of course have some data to support that statement or is this more truthiness?

How about responding to the feature story in the current Inc. magazine about business booming in socialist Norway?
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-say-ja-to-socialism.html
Or is Inc. just a left-wing rag?

Posted by: LeftCoast5 | January 27, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I was in Saigon today. It was 90° at least

Posted by: caothien9 | January 28, 2011 7:15 AM | Report abuse

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