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Posted at 10:42 AM ET, 01/18/2011

Even Republicans say media handled shooting better than Sarah Palin did

By Greg Sargent

Sarah Palin's accusation that journalists engaged in "blood libel" by allegedly blaming her for the shooting appears to have been a flop -- even among Republicans.

Even Republicans say the media handled the shooting better than Palin did, according to a partisan breakdown of the new Washington Post poll that was sent my way.

Fifty-three percent of Republicans approve of the media's handling of the massacre, versus only 48 percent of GOPers who approve of Palin's handling of it. While that 48 percent is higher than the 25 who disapproved of Palin's handling, the fact that less than half of Republicans gave Palin the thumbs up has to be disconcerting to her.

Indeed, even among Republicans, 71 percent approved of Obama's handling of the shooting, more than 20 points higher than the 48 percent who approved of Palin's handling of it.

All this suggests yet again the degree to which Palin squandered a major opportunity to improve her image. A significant chunk of the public is actually inclined to believe that Palin is generally mistreated by the media, and majorities say they don't blame Palin for the shooting, according to a poll released today by the Dem firm Public Policy Polling. If Palin had taken the high road, she might have ended up looking even more wronged by whoever it is that sought to link her to the shooting, and she could have emerged with the moral high ground.

Instead, only a minority of Republicans think she handled the whole mess well, and even Republicans don't see a problem with the media's treatment of it. If Palin wanted to cast this conflict as a standoff against her familiar antagonist, the "lamestream media," then the lamestream media won hands down.

UPDATE, 11:21 a.m.: Numbers like the above may explain why Republicans like Newt Gingrich now feel safe in coming out and criticizing her.

By Greg Sargent  | January 18, 2011; 10:42 AM ET
Categories:  House Dems, Political media  
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Maybe she should go back to generalizing the mourners as being at a pep rally as she did on Hannity's Browbeat America show.

That seems like a political winner for her.

Or, maybe she should join forces with Big Government and Gateway Pundits Jim Hoft and supported by Washington Times pushing the smear that "applause" lines were on the jumbotrons at the memorial when what was actually occurring was text for the hearing and impaired was on the jumbotrons.

That sounds like another winner.

Or maybe join with the vindictive Michelle Malkin making claims democrats bussed in a bunch of Obama supporters to the "pep rally."

I think that would also be another responsible angle for her to take.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | January 18, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Greg, why haven't you banned caothien9?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

REVEALED NEW INFORMATION FROM WIKILEAKS


Buried deep inside the latest release from Wikileaks was GREG SARGENTS list of topics for the next two years:


Greg Sargent THE PLUM LINE


List of Topics for 2011 - 2012


1) Harp on Health Care

2) Sarah Palin

3) Gay Rights

4) Rinse

5) Harp on Health Care

6) Complain about Sarah Palin

7) Gay Rights

8) Rinse

9) Secret money

10) Only the Republicans take secret money, not Obama

11) Harp on Health Care

12) Sarah Palin

13) Gay Rights

14) Rinse

15) Harp on Health Care

16) Complain about Sarah Palin

17) Gay Rights

18) Rinse

19) Secret money

20) Only the Republicans take undisclosed money, not Obama

21) Harp on Health Care

22) Sarah Palin

23) Gay Rights

24) Rinse

25) Harp on Health Care

26) Complain about Sarah Palin

27) Gay Rights

28) Rinse

29) Secret money

30) Only the Republicans take secret, undisclosed money, not Obama

31) Harp on Health Care

32) Sarah Palin

33) Gay Rights

34) Rinse

35) Harp on Health Care

36) Complain about Sarah Palin

37) Gay Rights

38) Rinse

39) Secret money

40) Only the Republicans take money, not Obama

41) Harp on Health Care

42) Sarah Palin

43) Gay Rights

44) Rinse

45) Harp on Health Care

46) Complain about Sarah Palin

47) Gay Rights

48) Rinse

49) Secret money

50) Only the Republicans take secret undisclosed money, not Obama

51) Harp on Health Care

52) Sarah Palin

53) Gay Rights

54) Rinse

55) Harp on Health Care

56) Complain about Sarah Palin

57) Gay Rights

58) Rinse

59) Secret money

60) Only the Republicans take secret money, not Obama

61) Harp on Health Care

62) Sarah Palin

63) Gay Rights

64) Rinse

65) Harp on Health Care

66) Complain about Sarah Palin

67) Gay Rights

68) Rinse

69) Secret money

70) Only the Republicans take secret undisclosed money, not Obama

71) Harp on Health Care

72) Sarah Palin

73) Gay Rights

74) Rinse

75) Harp on Health Care

76) Complain about Sarah Palin

77) Gay Rights

78) Rinse

79) Secret money

80) Only the Republicans take money, not Obama

81) Harp on Health Care

82) Sarah Palin

83) Gay Rights

84) Rinse

85) Harp on Health Care

86) Complain about Sarah Palin

87) Gay Rights

88) Rinse

89) Secret money

90) Only the Republicans take secret undisclosed money, not Obama

91) Harp on Health Care

92) Sarah Palin

93) Gay Rights

94) Rinse

95) Harp on Health Care

96) Complain about Sarah Palin

97) Gay Rights

98) Rinse

99) Secret money

100) Only the Republicans take secret undisclosed money, not Obama

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 18, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

The issue is about a mass killer who hated Bush - and therefore was an Obamaman.

Not about the quality of Sarah Palin's facebook video script.


Case closed.


.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 18, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is just out of tune with the compassion which was displayed by most Americans and most of the traditional media after this tragic shooting event in Arizona. She attacked and thus highlighted her own aspirations at a time when I would have expected unity. Her image,reach and influence dropped in my own view of her.

Posted by: GeorgeWhite2 | January 18, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I assume you meant cao, not tao. Otherwise this would be a pretty viscious slander rather than simply a fact.

Posted by: ScottC3 | January 17, 2011 10:03 PM
..................

You are correct sir, and my apologies to my good Frenemy; Tao.

He would never CaoTao to a totalitarian regime in a foreign land.

BBC on PBS did a feature yesterday, on the growing gap between the few super rich, and all the rest of the people in Vietnam. They showed luxury cars on display for a million dollars each, but they could not be purchased because the super rich few in Vietnam, had pre-paid for the entire consignment.

I am sure that it just slipped Cao's mind, and he really meant to tell all about the corrupt Oligarchy that has emerged in his people's paradise.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

This lame WaPo crowing demonstrates why Palin was accurate in describing Leftists pundits as "lamestream."

/weak

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 18, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

@Mike in A.....Great snark...

@Clawrence "Greg, why haven't you banned caothien9?"

At the risk of perhaps boring new posters and old regulars alike can I approach this tired issue one last time. Who has Greg ever banned? To my knowledge..Bilgey...and JakeD. Jake claimed to be here for the intent purpose of destroying this blog stating that was his mission in life..to disrupt as many liberal blogs as possible. I may be wrong but those are the only two I know of...and it seems self evident to me why Jake got the heave...why welcome someone intent on destroying the blog. New system is on the way can we drop all these childish calls for banning. As STRF would say it's UnAmerican and violates the First Amendment. (I know..I know..STRF makes the same mistake about the First Amendment as Sister Sarah)

@George White....If you are new...welcome.
We love people who post in a measured tone.
Well done.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 18, 2011 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: “I Receive a Lot of Death Threats and so do My Children”
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/01/18/sarah-palin-i-receive-a-lot-of-death-threats-and-so-do-my-children/#comment-29380

Death threats... so progressive.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 18, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

She's like crack, isn't she, Greg?

The crtiticism of Palin came from blogs almost exclusively. What needed to be said about the closed epistemological universe was said last week. Nothing more here.

Let's talk about the cult of selfishness and lack of empathy that makes so many people feel disconnected and makes it hard to get help. Let's talk about David Brooks' theory that connections are what make people happy, and how society could foster real, as opposed to illusionary or virtual connections. Let's go a little deeper here.

Posted by: Mimikatz | January 18, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

This is what the country gets in return for trying to be post-racial and giving Obama a chance:


NOW the democrats are trying to say that if you vote Republican, you might lose your health insurance - the SAME insurance you had under Bush.


The Obama people and Sebilius are ABUSING the government by putting out BLANTANTLY POLITICAL REPORTS

This is an abuse of GOVERNMENT FUNDS.


PLUS they are DIRTY LIARS, NO ONE IS GOING TO LOSE THEIR INSURANCE.


.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 18, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

All, it looks like even Republicans think the media handled the shooting better than Sarah Palin did:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/01/even_republicans_say_media_han.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent
------------------

Thanks Greg! I hope the next time I am accused of being an accessory or even mentioned as a possible contributor in some way to the murder of 6 people that I handle my response better than Sarah Palin did!


Posted by: Bcjbs1 | January 18, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

The new poll shows that the lamestream lie (that Sarah Palin’s Facebook map played a role in the mind of Jared Loughner) has been embraced by 56% of Democrats and 34% of Independents.

It's pointless to blame partisans like Kos and Krugman for being partisans, but the lamestream media (the networks and major dailies like WaPo) are responsible for allowing this lie to propagate unchecked.

It was their job to do more than serve as a conduit for Leftist agitprop and (in this instance) they FAILED.

The recent spate of death threats directed toward the targets of this media circus shows just how miserably they failed.

With the omission of the Democratic maps, minimizing the timeline, and scant attention to Loughner’s actual ideology the MSM has helped the cause of lying Leftist ideologues. Whether this was intentional is open to debate, but the fact that a sizable cross-section of America now believes Saturday’s shootings can be partly (if not largely) laid at the feet of Sarah Palin (and conservatives) is hard evidence of their collective failure.

Perhaps with the benefit of hindsight responsible media outlets will now make a concerted effort to set the record straight.

WaPo Grade: F- (miserable failure)

/dismissed

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 18, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

It is clear that the liberals care more about criticizing the quality of Sarah Palin's facebook video -


MORE THAN THEY HAVE RESPECT FOR THE DEAD WHO WERE KILLED BY THEIR OWN OBAMA-DUDE, who the New York Times says hated Bush.

See what Obama's rhetoric has led to?


.
.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 18, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

The anti-Palin hysteria among the Obamacratic, media bobbleheads has reached the point of paranoia. I believe it is a true mental illness yet undiagnosed.

I call it Palinoia. It is paranoid delusions borne of seething hatred of Sarah. If Sarah can keep the liberals wetting their panties, I say more power to her.

On a side note: The leftist nitwit of the month is Clarence Dupnik. Graduate emeritus of the Barney Fife School of Law Enforcement.

Posted by: battleground51 | January 18, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"The anti-Palin hysteria among the Obamacratic, media bobbleheads has reached the point of paranoia. I believe it is a true mental illness yet undiagnosed."

Yeah, heads up, Newt Gingrich:

"Gingrich said he thinks Obama “deserves the approval you just showed in your poll,” referring to the Washington Post-ABC News poll released Tuesday morning that had the president’s approval rating at 54 percent and 78 percent of Americans approving of how he handled the shooting.

“I join the 71 percent of Republicans who approved of it,” he said.

...also had some words of advice for Sarah Palin, a potential opponent in the race for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

“I think that she’s got to slow down and think through what she’s saying and how she’s saying it,” he said."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47737.html

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 18, 2011 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Mimikatz, that's "almost exclusively" except for all of the newspapers, tv, cable and radio attacks, right?

ruk, the only other CONSERVATIVE that Greg has banned is 37th. But, that's my whole point, since LIBERAL caothien9 has posted worse things than all three CONSERVATIVES combined.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 11:38 AM | Report abuse

All, Adam Serwer versus Jennifer Rubin on Tunisia:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/01/bush_doesnt_deserve_credit_for.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 18, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

With the benefit of hindsight, Greg is clearly quite tickled over what he and his toadies think they've accomplished.

As for those who actually died (the nine-year-old girl, Bush-appointed judge, etc.), they're merely collateral damage in the Leftist propaganda jihad against Mrs. Palin.

This is the mindset of those behind the great blood libel of 2011.

*stay classy*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 18, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The Obama media, chattering Palinoics are using their media power as a weapon in an attempt to beat Sarah Palin to death.

It is an assasination without bullets.

But an assasination nonetheless.

The Obama media have no mercy and they are cruel in their lust to lay waste to Sarah's career.

I have never seen more a more ruthless crusade of hate.

The liberal media gave Richard Nixon better treatment than they are giving Sarah.

It's a sickness. A mental sickness.

Posted by: battleground51 | January 18, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Supersonic Sarah Palin runs fast; way ahead of plodders like Greg Sargent. The Tucson/blood-libel thingy is last week's news. It is now boring to Sarah & to her fans. As one of history's actors, Sarah will create some new news, and gawkers like Greg may study her judiciously, as they will.

Posted by: bubbasouth | January 18, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

clawrence: Cao is not quite as repetitive. More specifically, it's Greg's blog, and he told Jake to cut out the birther stuff, and he didn't, so . . .

But, also, I gave you the formula. Troll = -2. Agrees with me=+4. Disagrees with me he -4. Thus, Cao is at a +2 while Jake was at a -6!

It's all cumulative. Given was Cao has said, I expect he would be banned, if he was a JakeD2. Mostly because all the lefties on the blog would be agitating for his banning. ;)

@greg: "Sarah Palin's accusation that journalists engaged in 'blood libel' by allegedly blaming her for the shooting appears to have been a flop -- even among Republicans."

Not all Republicans are frothing at the mouth, waiting for their marching orders from Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh? That's crazy.

There's something wrong with those numbers, Greg. You had better go back and check them. And get them right, this time. :[

That was my grim-looking smiley up there, in case you didn't recognize it. :)

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | January 18, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

KaddafiDelendaEst, I think that today's "excuse" is that it was only bloggers who attacked Palin (as if that's ok).

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Ay Sarah, why not take a ride on the wild side, let your hair down, leave the handlers at home and show us who really are.

Posted by: svivar9087 | January 18, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Ay Sarah, why not take a ride on the wild side, let your hair down, leave the handlers at home and show us who really are.

Posted by: svivar9087 | January 18, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Hey Greg,

I love that Sarah Palin is in your itty bitty head...
Reading the comments here, you are not making many friends.

But by all means continue with your weekly Palin rants, I love the smell of fear from you lefty idiots....LOL

Posted by: idesign | January 18, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Greg, thanks for the "update" from Newt; why haven't you banned caothien9?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

But by all means continue with your weekly Palin rants, I love the smell of fear from you lefty idiots....LOL

There of course there is a word for this line of drivel being put out by the few remaining Palinistas.

PROJECTION!!!

Do you kool aid drinking Palinistas really believe that ALL of those polls showing Palin's favorable ratings now less than a quarter of our population are wrong and Sister Sarah is right. Would you acknowledge the truth if it smacked you in the face? Afraid. LMAO...

I still say Palin/Gohmert 2012

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 18, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

This is starting to get very interesting.

From Politicalwire.com

"Gingrich Says Palin Needs to "Be More Careful"
In an interview with ABC News, Newt Gingrich said Sarah Palin's recent statements indicate she needs to "be more careful and think through what she's saying and how she's saying it."

Said Gingrich: "There's no question that she has become more controversial."

.............................

Keep in mind that this is the same Newt Gingrich who who wrote in his book, just last year:

“To Save America: Stopping Obama’s Secular-Socialist Machine,”

"Obama’s policy agenda is as "great a threat to America as Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union," wrote the former Republican Speaker of the House."

So you can see where Newt real has the moral high ground, when it comes to lecturing others on engaging in demagoguery.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

'I am not going to shut up'

Please don't Sarah ! Louder - Louder !

Run Sarah Run !

You're the best !

-your biggest fan
Mac Hiavelli

Posted by: PulSamsara | January 18, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it, Sarah Palin is a wimp. She should be saying that "good hunters finish off the kill with a sharp knife"...something like that. Why not? There's no mention of any on person in that line. It doesn't tell anyone to take action in Tucson, or in a hospital. What a wimp, Sarah Palin, backing down.

Posted by: bizzvanwa | January 18, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Nevertheless, Sarah Palin's future looks a whole lot brighter than Greg Sargent's. Or the Washington Post's, for that matter.

Posted by: QuineGeology | January 18, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

You can conduct all the polls you want, but it isn’t going to alter the fact that President Obama is a socialist liar and his administration is a crazy house of eco-loons, crypto-Marxists, progressives, collectivists, surrender monkeys and anarcho-lesbian harpies. Sarah Palin remains the figurehead for the counter-revolution.

Altogether now: “She’s not a Harvard lawyer but she knew what the Founders meant…”

Posted by: QuineGeology | January 18, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is doing very well for herself in the role of Snooki Of The North.

Ref; to Nanook Of The North, by Robert Flaherty.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Even liberal Democrats like Alan Dershowitz and Ed Koch are defending Palin from these insane attacks.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

NYC Mayor Ed Koch: "...Many women understand what she [Mrs. Palin] has done for their cause. She will not be silenced nor will she leave the heavy lifts to the men in her Party. She will not be falsely charged, remain silent, and look for others - men - to defend her. She is plucky and unafraid.

"While I disagree with her and I am prepared to oppose her politically, in the spirit of longed-for civility I say, Ms. Palin you are in a certain sense an example of the American dream: You have the courage to stand up and present your vision of America to its people. Your strength and lack of fear make America stronger and are examples to be emulated by girls and boys, men and women who are themselves afraid to speak up. You provide the example that they need for self-assurance.

[Ed Koch is the former Mayor of New York City.]
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/01/18/palin_defeated_unfair_critics_at_nyt__msnbc_108561.html

*classy*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 18, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Even Conservatives like Newt Gingrich and Tim Pawlenty are calling out Sarah Palin for her reckless language.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin is basically saying she doesn't really care that Gabriel Giffords was shot and how Gabriel spoke of her concerns that such cross hairs images and those distributing them could cause harm. Gabriel said "for example we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, the thing is the way that she has it depicted has the cross hairs of a gun site over our district and when people do that they've got to realize there are consequences to that action" Instead of Palin accepting responsibility for what Palin approved and distributed and how it could easily be interpenetrated by some mental case with a gun as an actual hit list, Palin tried a weak attempt at saying other politicians have been using maps like these for years. The FACT is that Sarah Palin and ONLY Sarah Palin has used gun scope cross hairs on her target map, period. No matter how she tries to spin this and discard it, she will wear and own it forever, it's all hers and only hers, now shut up and sit down Palin before you get someone else shot and killed. The blood of a 9 year old girl and others are now on your hands.

Posted by: Hillary08 | January 18, 2011 1:15 PM | Report abuse

It's beautiful. Conservatives need her to shut up and go away, but she won't. She has the spotlight and damned if she will give it up for anyone. Palin is exactly what the Democratic party needs to ensure a second term for Obama in 2012.

Posted by: jksesq1 | January 18, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Which is why I am planning to work the primary season to help Sarah win the nomination, and urge all Democrats to do likewise.

After all, Rush was gracious enough to persuade his followers to participate in Democratic Primaries in 2008, and it would be rude of us not to repay the favor.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

jkseq1 says: "Palin is exactly what the Democratic party needs to ensure a second term for Obama in 2012."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! REALLY?!?

Go ahead and re-run your socialist liar. The idiot is unelectable. People are WAY over the whole "black thang". They've assuaged their white guilt, seen what a disaster his policies are, and are now eager to dump him in 2012, as unemployment continues to climb, the economy stays stagnant and China overtakes us. Gallup and Rasmussen are STRETCHING to give your cack-handed man-child a 46% approval rating, so as not to embarrass a sitting president with his REAL numbers. But then that's been the modus operandi of the press all along: Protect the president from the truth and shamelessly praise him for every utterance he delivers so that his self-esteem isn't damaged. This whole presidency has been a phony baloney, plastic banana SHAM, and liberals know it.

HURRY 2012
HURRY PALIN

Posted by: QuineGeology | January 18, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Why does there always have to be "SOMEONE" else to blame instead of the guilty one? This was a grown man he is to blame.....no one else!! This is a rediculous article. Seriously??

Posted by: m63bella | January 18, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Why does there always have to be "SOMEONE" else to blame instead of the guilty one? This was a grown man he is to blame.....no one else!! This is a rediculous article. Seriously??

Posted by: m63bella | January 18, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Why does there always have to be "SOMEONE" else to blame instead of the guilty one? This was a grown man he is to blame.....no one else!! This is a rediculous article. Seriously??

Posted by: m63bella | January 18, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Why did Sarah Palin keep attaching blame to Barak Obama for something a domestic terrorist did in the 1960s, when Barack Obama was a very young schoolboy.

See how that works Sarah. What goes around comes around. You want to have it both ways. You smeared Barack Obama, yet now you claim that your words and actions should not be linked to the deeds of the Tucson assassin.

I agree with you that they should not be,

But you must now come clean, and apoligise to President Obama for your evil smear attacks on him

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Hillary08, I realize you are a drive-by (no pun intended) poster, but thank you for providing yet another instance of blood libel against Palin. She won't sit down and shut up though.

Everyone else can see for themselves the DLC's own "Targeting Strategy" map right here:

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

QuineGeology |

With all due respect you've wandered into the wrong blog. Could you take your mindless unprovable rants to redstate or somewhere else where intellectual discourse is frowned upon and mindless EXTREME right wing talking points are welcome.

We like people who make points backed by reason and whoa... yes links to references not simply crackpots shooting off their mouths.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 18, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"She won't sit down and shut up though."
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Thanks for that breaking news. It works really well with the other talking point about how Palin shouldn't even have to defend herself from these absurd accusations. But you know, I mean as long as there is a camera around, she may as well defend herself. She won't be silenced either even though nobody has proposed censoring her and she took down the cross hairs graphic on her own volition.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 18, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I won't say that Palin has blood on her hands.

I will say that Palin is permanently identified with the loss of a promising nine-year-old's life.

As Giffords, said, "there are consequences." Palin wasn't astute enough to understand that she would also become a victim of her own irresponsible decision (to use deadly images over an identified Congresswoman.

If Palin is a victim of this massacre, she did it to herself and few people pity her. Palin has been paid a lot of coins for her hateful rhetoric against Obama, Democrats and the media.

Posted by: Beeliever | January 18, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

If as Sarah Palin and her apologist would have us believe, her public appearances and disseminations have made absolutely no contribution to a hostile climate in which violence beyond words may occur, everyone might be asking, Sarah who?

However, most folks know via the media who Palin is and in the same manner they have sadly come to know of the vicious loner in Arizona that murdered and maimed so many. Media spreads the doings of public figures and Sarah Palin has sopped up a celebrity-status amount.

The media’s coverage of Palin has not been prompted by noticeable demonstrations of leadership: aside from forsaking her elected responsibilities as governor of Alaska, she has none. Palin’s acquisition of celebrity came of that described in an aphorism devised from “The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-events in America” by Daniel Boorstin: Plain is well known for being well known.

Plain’s bombasts in quest of notoriety have spread and become part of a climate of incivility. She absolves herself of having at all contributing to the tenor of the times and thus far Palin refrains from concurring that enough is enough and that it is time to end provocative contributions to the kind of acrimonious environment that historically has destroyed cultures.

Best we remember that in ancient Greece there was a relatively tranquil Athens here favor was given to reasoned discourse, and in contrast a decidedly acrimonious Sparta where favor was a spoil extracted by threat of force. Today there remains an Athens, but Sparta long ago succumbed to its hostile spirit.

Posted by: Islewood | January 18, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

If as Sarah Palin and her apologist would have us believe, her public appearances and disseminations have made absolutely no contribution to a hostile climate in which violence beyond words may occur, everyone might be asking, Sarah who?

However, most folks know via the media who Palin is and in the same manner they have sadly come to know of the vicious loner in Arizona that murdered and maimed so many. Media spreads the doings of public figures and Sarah Palin has sopped up a celebrity-status amount.

The media’s coverage of Palin has not been prompted by noticeable demonstrations of leadership: aside from forsaking her elected responsibilities as governor of Alaska, she has none. Palin’s acquisition of celebrity came of that described in an aphorism devised from “The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-events in America” by Daniel Boorstin: Plain is well known for being well known.

Plain’s bombasts in quest of notoriety have spread and become part of a climate of incivility. She absolves herself of having at all contributing to the tenor of the times and thus far Palin refrains from concurring that enough is enough and that it is time to end provocative contributions to the kind of acrimonious environment that historically has destroyed cultures.

Best we remember that in ancient Greece there was a relatively tranquil Athens here favor was given to reasoned discourse, and in contrast a decidedly acrimonious Sparta where favor was a spoil extracted by threat of force. Today there remains an Athens, but Sparta long ago succumbed to its hostile spirit.

Posted by: Islewood | January 18, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I will cut a lot of those Right Wing men some slack, when it comes to their obsession with Sarah Palin.

It is the one time in their drab lives, that they can use politics as a cover, to indulge their Naughty Librarian wearing glasses, with hair down ,fantasies, in front of their wives.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

rukidding7 pharts: "Could you take your mindless unprovable rants to redstate or somewhere else where intellectual discourse is frowned upon and mindless EXTREME right wing talking points are welcome."

Spoken like a true leftist. If somebody disagrees with you, shut them down.

No, idiot, I will not move to another blog. I like this one, and I have every right to be here reading and writing what I wish. It's entertaining reading the posts of you liberals who natter on and on and on and on and ON about how stupid and irrelevant Sarah Palin is, continuing to invest time, effort and sweat equity in her destruction - which is impossible.

She will not shut up, I will not shut up, and I am glad that YOU won't shut up, because all your rants against her are working in her favor. They must be, or you wouldn't continue your now-desperate attempts to shut her down, 2-1/2 years after she should have gone the way of Geraldine Ferraro, Michael Dukakis and other forgotten also-ran candidates.

Sarah Palin is a force of nature. And despite what you liberals believe, you can't control nature. You can't cool the planet, you can't stop a hurricane, you can't convince us there's a "water shortage", and you'll never be able to stop Sarah Palin. Never. She will be our next president, but what's even better than that is that she will destroy your part for decades - if not generations - to come.

The liberal gig is up. You have all been exposed for your lying, your pettiness, your downright meanness, to say nothing of your failed policies and idiot agenda.

In case you haven't noticed, conservatives outnumber liberals by 2-to-1. This is a fact found in numerous polls, and should have been evident in the SHELLACKING your dumb party took in the November elections. And it wasn't just the House that we won. We took governorships, state legislatures, mayors, local aldermen - right down to dogcatcher.

You liberals are in a HEAP of trouble, you're desperate, and it's showing. But please. Don't let me stop your fun of Palin-bashing, if that gives you some sort of comfort. It only makes her stronger, makes us more confident in her abilities, and will keep her in the news up to Inauguration Day, 2013, when she will make worldwide headlines as the first female president of the U.S.

Thank you, libs! Keep up the good work!!

Posted by: QuineGeology | January 18, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

To continually play to the ego of morons is nothing but allowing utter nonsense to rule this nation. We have a duly ELECTED POTUS and if you can't follow get out of the way for you are delaying the recovery and costing "real" Americans time and money by your delaying tactics to further your next SELECTION choice and promote more death and destruction in the process. Five decades of political violence and murders at the hands of the "religous" right republicans is enough already. You do not want us to shoot back, not if your as smart as your talking heads portray you to be. Remember that democrats are the ones who ALWAYS fix what you screw up with your holier than thou thinking.

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | January 18, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Republican. And you know what I and tens of million other Republicans think of the liberal media. Your day will come along with the NY Slimes. Both will go belly up for sure. Hell, I have more hits on my web site than you sell newspapers in a week.

Posted by: rchaa27aa | January 18, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

We will. Thanks for the words of encouragement. Do you consult Sarah, with her vast knowledge of when and how the earth was created, instead of engaging in all that secular scientific geological exploration crap?

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

So when is Congresswoman Giffords going to apologize to Sarah Palin for letting herself get shot, which really caused poor Sarah more pain and anguish than anyone who got shot in Tucson.

Why hasn't the nation dedicated a month of mourning to mark the terrible suffering that Sarah Palin has endured?

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

anOPINIINATEDsob, you know that "five decades" ago was January 1961, right? Are you claiming Lee Harvey Oswald was a "religious" right Republican?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Another breathy piece by one of the recently revealed large percentage of our population in need of mental health intervention in the U S. Go get it, Greg. We will all be the better for it.

Posted by: lavistabb | January 18, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

What people are forgetting is that the less intellectually endowed members of society need people to idolize just like everybody else. In this case, Palin has captured the hearts and empty heads of a demographic which pushes mental bereavement to new heights. They'll be damned if they watch the end of her political career without a fight.

Posted by: curtisjasper | January 18, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I do not believe one single syllable of this report. I do believe that the delusional projection of Marxist Leftist Progressive Democrats is authentic and disturbing. This is not only a political problem. It is a spiritual problem.

After a hundred years of Marxist experimentation and propaganda in the U.S.A. everything that the Liberal Left has established is either going broke or is totally busted. Look at the Social Security System. Look at the city of Detroit Michigan. Look at the State of California. Democrat-Liberal-Marxist ruination is all around us. Yet the so-called Liberals of the United States continue defending and espousing the ruination of their failed Marxist philosophy as if it were effective and successful. With so much death and failure plain to see, how can Democrats continue to defend the obvious failure? Who can doubt a strongly delusional component to Marxist Leftism? 2Thessalonians 2:11, 12: "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." Conclusion: There are many so-called Democrats who claim they are believers in G-d, in Christ, in the Holy Spirit. Considering the Democrat Political Party's open endorsement of atheism, abortion, and sodomy; and considering God's clear prohibition of such folly it would seem wise for believing Democrats who take their beliefs seriously to seriously RECONSIDER their political affiliations.

Posted by: ironmule | January 18, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The GOP must distance themselves from that loose cannon, if they want to have any chance at Obama in 2012.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | January 18, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The GOP must distance themselves from that loose cannon, if they want to have any chance at Obama in 2012.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | January 18, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Herbert Hoover, and George W. Bush were Marxists? Wow! That would explain why they brought about the two greatest economic crashes in the past hundred years.

President Palin will turn that all around. Is it too soon to start efforts to repeal the 22nd amendment, so that we can keep Sarah in the White House for more than eight years, or should we wait and see if she can stand the heat in the kitchen , this time, for more than a couple of years?

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

thomasmc1957, what if you knew for a fact that said "loose cannon" was the only person who would beat Obama?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Claw, what if you knew for a fact, that you do not know any such thing, for a fact?

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is an aggrieved person. No matter what happens that aspect of her personality manifests itself. Don't expect her to emerge as a consensus builder. She is always nursing that part of herself which has been hurt or misunderstood. She's great at making money and marketing herself. That is where her future lies.

Posted by: ElinorMiller | January 18, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

quinegeology wrote:

you'll never be able to stop Sarah Palin. Never. She will be our next president, but what's even better than that is that she will destroy your part for decades - if not generations - to come.

Oh, great. You can't stand the idea of a two-party system, so you're hoping for a Republican super-majority stretching forward to the stars. It'll be just like the Bush years, I bet - endless wars, concentrated wealth, and a torturing police-state. I can't imagine a bleaker future; I must not have as many rocks in my head as you do.

Posted by: barbarian_horde | January 18, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

At first I was bummer that SP would no longer be running against Obama (that debate would have been f'ing golden!) but look at Huckleberry, Giuliani, and the entire host of loons.. any way you slice it Obama wins, and he can finally implement his socialism and oppressive health care.

Posted by: echoparkla | January 18, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

From the very beginning whenever Palin is questioned or criticized for something she says, or when someone- other than someone from fox- asks her a question that she can't answer or fumbles over- she has claimed it was someone else's fault. God, I hate people like that, just think they are the lowest of the low. When you make a mistake, you admit to it, and it suppose to humble you. Or, if you really want to change, fight back, but at least do so by making the necessary changes. In Palin's case, she could've started studying some history and geography, she could've reached out to people who she disagreed with and actually had a real conversation, based on reality and facts. She could've put the hate rhetoric and spin to bed and awakened with intelligence and dignity. Not going to happen. Once she quit the governorship, she showed that when the going gets tough, it's time for Palinspeak and excuses.

Posted by: valerie14 | January 18, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

BULL##IT!!!!!!! The liberals accused her of being responsible for the killing and you are complaining about the way she handled herself, REALLY????? I am shocked (snicker snicker) that you would attack again. Don't you have something else that will sell your newpapers?

Posted by: mmartin3 | January 18, 2011 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Palin can dish it out, but she can't take it. She spent months smearing President Obama for something that a domestic terrorist did, when Barack Obama was a very young schoolboy.

Now she is outraged, when her chickens came home to roost.

This is supposed to be the big tough Mama Grizzly? Good lord, she is just another Right Wing Cry Baby. No wonder she could not take the heat in the coldest state in the Union, and quit on the people who elected her to office.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

clawrence12: I'm really tired of the maps but you brought it up again.
Palin and Palin's supporters should quit trying to backpedal their map.
The DLC Recovery for America Map was to show the areas that were getting Recovery Stimulus money and to point out the Republicans that didn't vote for it. Some of the Republicans still took credit for it with the home voters. There wasn't an outcry when the DLC map was published. No Republican expressed his concern on TV that he was on the map. No gun rethoric was used in discussing the stimulus map.
In contrast when Palin released her map there was an outcry. She ignored it. She had a constant theme of gun rethoric. Rep. Giffords expressed her concern being targeted with gun sight. Giffords was later shot.
It's absurd for Palin and her supporters to deny the sad coincidence.
It's silly talk to compare the maps.
Palin didn't sound like she even believed her weak whitewash on Hannity Jan 17, 2011.
It's time for Palin to quit the victim role.
There are victims that we should be concerned about.
We need to discuss issues without the hate and name calling.

Posted by: cjackman | January 18, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse

clawrence12: I'm really tired of the maps but you brought it up again.
Palin and Palin's supporters should quit trying to backpedal their map.
The DLC Recovery for America Map was to show the areas that were getting Recovery Stimulus money and to point out the Republicans that didn't vote for it. Some of the Republicans still took credit for it with the home voters. There wasn't an outcry when the DLC map was published. No Republican expressed his concern on TV that he was on the map. No gun rethoric was used in discussing the stimulus map.
In contrast when Palin released her map there was an outcry. She ignored it. She had a constant theme of gun rethoric. Rep. Giffords expressed her concern being targeted with gun sight. Giffords was later shot.
It's absurd for Palin and her supporters to deny the sad coincidence.
It's silly talk to compare the maps.
Palin didn't sound like she even believed her weak whitewash on Hannity Jan 17, 2011.
It's time for Palin to quit the victim role.
There are victims that we should be concerned about.
We need to discuss issues without the hate and name calling.

Posted by: cjackman | January 18, 2011 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Hope Sarah never uses the word "red" because obami lapdog Andrea Mitchell will probably accuse Sarah of referring to blood. As long as you are obsessed with Sarah, your mystery man obami doesn't get the microscopic treatment that he should get, like reveal his medical records, his college transcripts, and yes the mysterious B/C that only certain people have seen.

Posted by: mightyheidi | January 18, 2011 6:03 PM | Report abuse

cjackman, you are referring to a different map. The "Targeting Strategy" map I linked to above was from 2004. The first Stimulus wasn't even passed until 2008. Nice try though.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 6:42 PM | Report abuse





Why did Sarah Palin keep attaching blame to Barak Obama for something a domestic terrorist did in the 1960s, when Barack Obama was a very young schoolboy.

See how that works Sarah. What goes around comes around. You want to have it both ways. You smeared Barack Obama, yet now you claim that your words and actions should not be linked to the deeds of the Tucson assassin.

I agree with you that they should not be,

But you must now come clean, and apoligise to President Obama for your evil smear attacks on him

Posted by: Liam-still | January 18, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Here is the difference Liam: Obama kicked off his political life in the terrorist's LIVING ROOM, at his home, with the terrorist wife serving refreshments to all of their terrorist supporting friends and colleagues. You don't see even the SLIGHTEST difference from an obviously crazy person with leftist tendencies who has had a grudge against the Congresswoman since well before anyone had even heard of Sarah Palin? Oh yeah, Obama is the real victim in all of this.

Posted by: Michelle111 | January 18, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. PALIN IS WHITE TRASH AND A WITCH ACCORDING TO HER PREACHER!

Posted by: googleer | January 18, 2011 7:16 PM | Report abuse

googleer, do you have a link or alleged quote from preacher?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

To "mikefromarlington" (first comment):

Don't forget the t-shirts.

President Obama was asked to come to Tucson to speak to a memorial service for the victims of 1/8. The "event-planning" was left up to the University of Arizona. Any and all right-wingers who manufactured claims regarding the Obama administration's "heavy-handed," politically-directed involvement in this event are disgusting liars.

Posted by: JFredSmug | January 18, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

JFredSmug (indeed), similarly, the GWB White House had no involvement in printing that "Mission Accomplished" banner ; )

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 18, 2011 7:56 PM | Report abuse

You conservatives are such fools.

I mean think about it for a second before you start ranting about how you're not.

The liberals, all they have to do is say something critical of Sarah Palin - just like you do all their heroes, and you start frothing and foaming at the mouth blaming everybody and everything who isn't you for being a bunch of leftist commies.

And then you start defending Sarah Palin like she was your own sister ... and before you know it, it's 2012, and you morons have picked Sarah Palin for your nominee.

Shee-it, even I would vote for this Obama clown over Sarah Palin.

That is EXACTLY why the media and the liberals keep pounding on her. And you're falling for it like the true idiots you really are,.

Posted by: eezmamata | January 18, 2011 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is out of touch. Right now, America is craving nice. More on my blog at http://www.jasongriffin.net/blog/2011/1/17/for-today-anyway-the-pendulum-shifts-to-nice.html

Posted by: jasongriffin | January 18, 2011 8:28 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have always hated Palin. So what? Who cares what they think? The GOP is a gutless, sham party that exists only to provide the illusion of choice. Palin made the right move. If she waited for the gutless GOP to stand up for her against filthy commies like Krugman, she'd be dead already.

Posted by: doctorfixit | January 18, 2011 10:15 PM | Report abuse

At least the Republicans may inch their way into being a party that actually listens to people who do not have an ax to grind. Of all the people who should have come out into the political world with some humility should have been Sarah Palin. All she delivered were three big lies and a lot of anger. She continues to prove over and over that he is not ready and may never be ready for the big time. Yes, she will have her following. Most beauty contestants do. I have Republican friends who vote for the most attractive or handsome. If beauty is your criterion, I guess in America this is OK. I do not think that this is what Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he wanted us to strive for an educated populace so that we could keep our form of government alive.

Posted by: EarlC | January 19, 2011 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Palin's comments hold more weight because she is supposed to be a front runner for her party's nomination to be our next POTUS. I know this because she constantly reminds us of it, even though anyone with half a brain knows she will never run for elected office again.

You see, if she chose to run, she'd be stripped of her protective cocoon of Facebook and Fox News. She'd have to speak off the cuff, she'd have to answer much tougher questions. And her income would take a huge hit. She seems content to keep her face in the news and rake in millions by being an antagonist, all while not having to face any real consequences for her actions. Every new news cycle brings about another chance to make a public comment, post a video, play the "pity me" card, and cash another check.

The best the Dems can hope for is for Sarah to keep yapping and the Dems to keep tying her to the GOP, even though they are fast becoming sick of her as evidenced by this poll.

The Republicans hitched their wagon to her to get in power, now they can't cut ties to her fast enough.

So enough of the comparing comments of any journalist or blogger with Palin's. They just don't carry the same weight.

Posted by: steve-2304 | January 19, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Why does Fox and Palin think they aren't part of the media? Talk about lame. I guess for the same reason they don't know the definition of "elite".

Posted by: jckdoors | January 19, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

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