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Posted at 2:31 PM ET, 01/24/2011

GOP strategy: Force Dems to vote on `job killing' taxes in health reform

By Greg Sargent

With Senate Dems threatening to force Republicans to vote on whether to repeal individual popular provisions in the health reform law, Senate GOPers are mulling a response: Aides say they may retaliate by demanding that Democrats vote on other tax-related individual provisions in the law that Republicans can paint as "job killers."

In recent days Republicans have been demanding that Senate Dems allow a vote on the repeal bill that the House has already passed. As Brian Beutler reports, Dems have crafted an aggressive response: If the GOP persists, they will insist on votes directly on whether to repeal popular provisions like the restriction on discrimation against people with pre-existing conditions.

Now the GOP is preparing their response to the Dem response. According to a GOP Senate aide, Republicans may counter by demanding a vote on whether to repeal provisions disliked by business, such as the one that imposes an excise tax on medical device manufacturers. Those manufacturers have been complaining that this provision forces them to shoulder an unfair burden of the cost of expanded health coverage and could lead to layoffs.

The GOP aide says if Dems try to force votes on individual provisions, Republicans will respond in kind. GOP aides are combing through the legislation to find provisions that they can demand votes on, should it come to that.

"If Democrats are pushing for political votes on health care, they can expect the exact same thing," the aide says. "They don't really want to go back and forth and relitigate this." The aide added that Republicans would pick provisions "that have an impact on jobs."

Translation: Republicans would demand votes on provisions that serve their larger (and ubiquitous) message that health reform is a "job killer."

Of course, a lot of this on both sides is bluff and bluster, a form of brinksmanship designed to spook the other side into backing off. But if there's one thing we've learned from the health care wars, it's that Republicans have not shied away from procedural fights of this kind. Indeed, they seem to proceed from the assumption that noisy process fights help them by tainting the health law -- and its architects -- with Americans' dislike of Congress, which is at historic lows.

By Greg Sargent  | January 24, 2011; 2:31 PM ET
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Seriously people - WHY DOESN'T THE PRESS SLAM EMANUEL ON HIS TIME AT FREDDIE MAC ???

Rahm Emanuel, served on the board of directors of the federal mortgage firm Freddie Mac at a time when scandal was brewing at the troubled agency and the board failed to spot "red flags," according to government reports reviewed by ABCNews.com.


Rahm Emanuel served on the board of directors of FREDDIE MAC at a time when scandal was brewing at the troubled agency and the board failed to spot "red flags," according to government reports reviewed by ABCNews.com.

According to a complaint later filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Freddie Mac, known formally as the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, misreported profits by billions of dollars in order to deceive investors between the years 2000 and 2002.

Emanuel was not named in the SEC complaint but the entire board was later accused by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) of having "failed in its duty to follow up on matters brought to its attention."

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Posted by: SunlightandLowTaxes | January 24, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"What's government when words have no meaning?"


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What's government when the word "center" has no meaning?


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Posted by: SunlightandLowTaxes | January 24, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Why not waste weeks playing legislative parlor games? It's not as if the country has any real problems that Congress might address like, say, gun control, the deficit or global warming. Or jobs, for that matter.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 24, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

wbgonne

that is a really good point. Obama wasted much of his first 2 years on legislative parlor games.

In particular, last May, Obama pulled out of the bipartisan negotiations on the Financial Regulation bill - and decided instead to force votes designed to make the Republicans look bad. That was foolish and hurt Obama in November.

Those negotiations were going well by the way.

NOW the country is stuck with a bill with little bipartisan support, may get repealed, and the Financial sector is yet to know how it will be regulated going out. Obama's tactics have amounted to nothing less than bad government, on top of bad politics. The dude Obama really has no idea what he is doing.


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Posted by: SunlightandLowTaxes | January 24, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Go Republicans!!!

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 24, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Dems should just vote with the Repubs on those amendments then at the end vote to kill the bill. That is the dumbest tactic I ever hear. It's like putting your hand in front of your face and saying, "I bet you can't hit my hand"...

Posted by: soapm | January 24, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Does any liberal really understand what this means?

Rahm Emanuel was on the Freddie Mac board when:

According to a complaint later filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Freddie Mac, known formally as the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, misreported profits by billions of dollars in order to deceive investors between the years 2000 and 2002.


deceive investors

deceive investors

deceive investors

deceive investors

deceive investors

Posted by: SunlightandLowTaxes | January 24, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"If Democrats are pushing for political votes on health care, they can expect the exact same thing," the aide says. "They don't really want to go back and forth and relitigate this."

Hypocrisy, much? What is the repeal push if not an effort to "relitigate" settled business?

Posted by: JennOfArk | January 24, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Greg

NOT sure what the point of your piece is here.

The entire nation KNOWS that Obama's tax increases are a DRAG ON HIRING AND A DRAG ON THE ECONOMY.


THE NUANCE you don't get is the uncertainty concerning the health care premiums.

It's NOT just Obama's tax increases.


It's Obama' regulations which are going to cause the health care premiums to go up, (up to 25% this year alone)

Who would want to hire MORE people when one does not know how much the health insurance is going to cost for one's EXISTING employees???


IT'S THAT NUANCE which is dragging down the Economy, and making Obama's recession even worse than it would be.


Obama is a DRAG on the Economy. If the nation votes him out, and gets rid of health care, the ECONOMY WILL BE ROBUST AGAIN.


Thank you for your thoughts though.


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Posted by: SunlightandLowTaxes | January 24, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure all this nonsense will help create jobs. Right?

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | January 24, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"It's not as if the country has any real problems that Congress might address like, say, gun control, the deficit or global warming. Or jobs, for that matter."

Might I toss in Iraq/Afghanistan wbgonne.
Why are we ready to give the President a free pass on this when public is 2-1 behind getting out of this quagmire!

Iraq will still have 47,000 Americans stationed there as Obama speaks. Why?
How much money have we wasted? Anybody gonna man or woman up in DC and tell us the truth. Not holding my breath.

Is there any end to the longest war in our history, unless you count our wars against the Native Americans in the West? Does ANYBODY have an exit strategy or are we gonna continue to let pompous Generals like Petraues continue to blow smoke up our posteriors about winning the minds and hearts of the Afghans. Yeah after the explosion of anti Muslim bigotry that gripped our nation last year I'm sure the Afghans have warm friendly feelings toward us. And hey...they're sharp people...they understand that Predator that just wiped out half their village was only supposed to kill the 4 Taliban "believed" to be hiding there, not their family and relatives..they'll understand and be accepting...I mean what can you do about collateral damage.

And what will the Generals be asking for when it comes to Afghanistan...what do Generals ALWAYS ask for...more troops..more resources..more time...all of which means more BOATLOADS OF MONEY.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 24, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

If the gist of what is going on, is a game of chicken, then I'll take the side of Democrats in the court of public opinion. Most people who criticize the health care law do so because it seems a handout to insurance companies, which doesn't exactly square with job-killing. Looks more like job creating, to the critics.

But, everyone hates recission, pre-existing conditions and annual/lifetime limits and all sorts of other games.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 24, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

BBQ

The democrats first took the stimulus money and diverted to democratic special interest projects

AGAIN, I don't see Obama really concerned about jobs.

Didn't hear the word "Jobs" when Obama and crew spent 5 days on a False Smear Campaign against Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

Obama and the liberals are a bunch of jokers.


Do you think that Obama and the liberals could EVER hire ANYONE without Federal money?


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Posted by: SunlightandLowTaxes | January 24, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Fresh open thread for the rest of the day:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/01/open_thread_17.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 24, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

So now the Repugnants are going to waste time on health reform, just as they accused the Dems of doing during the last Congress?
Who do these losers (they've already lost) think they're fooling? Oh yeah -- what about the jobs? And, they want to revisit abortion, too.
Too bad for them that Terry Schiavo died -- they could spend months intervening in her medical care again. Oh, sorry, I forgot -- they say they are against government intervening in health care.
Unbelievable, childish hypocrites!!

Posted by: mylesgordon | January 24, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I thought you had to be an adult to be elected to Congress.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 24, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Kids in a sandbox.

Posted by: jckdoors | January 24, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Ugh! Don't we have serious problems that need to be addressed? It's no wonder why the majority of Americans have such a low opinion of Congress.

Posted by: wireknob | January 24, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Taxes don't kill anything. Even when tax levels were higher than they are now, the nation bristled with jobs and money. The tax-myth endures though. Find another song to sing, yours is tiresome and wrong.

Posted by: jckdoors | January 24, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

So much for bi-partisanship.

The republicans are back to teeth-gnashing. Brilliant.

Be careful what you ask for, America.

Posted by: binkynh | January 24, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Works for me. As long as Republicans vote against anything in the ACA and the Democrats vote as they did before, I'm fine with gridlock. What it will show is how "the popular" provisions stand in the eyes of the "People".

Posted by: Falling4Ever | January 24, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love it when the GOPigs do the bidding of their corporate puppeteers.

This is just Kabuki theater however. For all the retarded idiots calling Health Care Reform "socialism" they have no idea that it's really corporatism that's been bought and paid for by insurance companies.

Do you really think that health insurance companies are oppossed to 30-50 million new customers, some of whom will be subsidized by the federal government?

Give me a f-ing break.

The only way this country is going to get serious about containing health care costs is to remove for profit health insurance companies. Profit driven parasites that add ZERO value to the delivery of health care from America's health care providers to the American citizenry.

Posted by: Ve1ostrummer | January 24, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Not sure that the GOP strategy is a winner. The Dems will make them vote on provisions that affect individuals directly whereas the GOP is going to talk about taxes on such as the excise tax on medical device manufacturers and go into their usual "job-killing" rhetoric which probably will not resonate as well as denying pre-existing conditions, coverage of children til 26 and closing the "Doughnut hole" for seniors. If I were the Dems I would take that fight and compare the GOP position as another apology to BP type of scenario.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | January 24, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey, look, its JENN.
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Hypocrisy, much? What is the repeal push if not an effort to "relitigate" settled business?

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So honey, have you had enough of calumny for a while? All done falsely accusing folks you don't like of all sorts of crimes?

Without a doubt you were one of the most vicious of the attackers here. The behavior of the American left in the immediate aftermath of the Tucson Tragedy will not soon be forgotten. I fervently hope that this returns to haunt the Democrats for years.

I don't expect remorse from the left because that would take a sense of shame and they demonstrated clearly that they have none.

But the fact remains, Howard Dean hates me. That's the current state of play in our society.

OK fine.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 24, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse


BBQ

The democrats first took the stimulus money and diverted to democratic special interest projects

AGAIN, I don't see Obama really concerned about jobs.

Didn't hear the word "Jobs" when Obama and crew spent 5 days on a False Smear Campaign against Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

Obama and the liberals are a bunch of jokers.


Do you think that Obama and the liberals could EVER hire ANYONE without Federal money?

Posted by: SunlightandLowTaxes
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Yes, because we all know the Republicans didn't get any Stimulus money! NOT!! The very stimulus they railed against, they were only to happy to show up for photo ops with those very checks they railed against!

Posted by: Angryman | January 24, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

TO: clawrence12 who wrote:
"Go Republicans!!!"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Another sucker for punishment.

Posted by: lindalovejones | January 24, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Greg Sargent should write for the Huffington Post. He would fit in there nicely.

Posted by: moebius22 | January 24, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

TO: SunlightandLowTaxes who wrote:
“… The entire nation KNOWS that Obama's tax increases are a DRAG ON HIRING AND A DRAG ON THE ECONOMY…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^

The one big problem with your theory:

President Obama HAS NOT raised taxes.

Probably the biggest drag on the economy was all those trillions of dollars Republicans borrowed and spent during the Bush/Cheney Administration, not to mention that $5 dollar a gallon gas that sucked the life out of everybody’s paychecks.

Posted by: lindalovejones | January 24, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"Medical Device manufacturers"?

You mean those "old people scooters", "mail order catheter", and "in house wheelchair lifts" that I see advertised on TV every single day with catchy slogans like "you pay nothing, we will bill medicare for you"!

These companies are sucking medicare clean. Not only do half the people getting these things not really need them (i.e., even if they could afford to buy them, they wouldn't on their own", but these companies charge such exhorbitant rates to Medicare that its destroying the system.

Those little personal scooters...they bill medicare $3500 per when you could go to any one of a dozen suppliers and pick one up for 500-600 bucks.

I cringe every time I see one of those commercials because it appeals to the lowest common denominator of our society so excuse me if I don't shed a tear that these companies are now being forced to bear a more equal burden and simply not be able to upsell something at 5 times the price.

Posted by: Nosh1 | January 24, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I thought you had to be an adult to be elected to Congress.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 24, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I guess not when you have a bunch immature, intolerant, hateful, bigoted people voting for you.

Posted by: catmomtx | January 24, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

OK, so nosh1, let's be sure I'm getting this right: the benefits derived by Medicare beneficiaries are based on legislation passed by congress. Among those benefits are the items you mention.

Are you therefore saying that Medicare patients should be denied something to which they are currently entitled? If so, have your written to your congressional delegation to express your concern about what you percieve to be a waste of taxpayer money?

I'd love to read on of those letters you sent.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 24, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

How do you spell hypocrit? R*E*P*U*B*L*I*C*A*N.

Yep, jump right on that job creating thing. That's what they're doing.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | January 24, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The only way to make the right-wing sacks of garbage understand they don't rule is to kick their assets to kingdom come. The imbeciles don't have the brains to understand like human beings.

Posted by: analyst72 | January 24, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere, in a parallel universe, there's a Congress that's getting something done.

Posted by: johnharris1 | January 24, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Why do we keep sending adolescents to Congress with their "retaliation" and school yard bullying at the expense of working taxpayers?

Has America really gone to hell this bad?

Posted by: areyousaying | January 24, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

in response to this:
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The only way to make the right-wing sacks of garbage understand they don't rule is to kick their assets to kingdom come. The imbeciles don't have the brains to understand like human beings.

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Yeah, that's the kind of civility the American left has been clamoring for.

Here's a perfect example of hate speech.

this is, IMHO, typical of the mindset on the left.

But, you know, that's fine. Anytime that boy wants to take me on, I'll be around. My assets, such as they are, could probably use a good kicking anyway.

Let me know sonny. I'm your huckleberry.

so now I can safely say that not only does Howard Dean hate me, but analyst72 does too!

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 24, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Here's hoping Sen. McConnell returns soon to the Coolidge administration.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | January 24, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse


If the GOP was REALLY concerned about health care costs they'd refuse the government run cadillac insurance coverage the American People pay for them and buy their own.


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 24, 2011 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is strong, Senate solid, economy improving, Americans like what health care reform provides, and will provide. Repeal DOA.

Posted by: dudh | January 24, 2011 6:09 PM | Report abuse

If the Democrats realy cared about our ability to purchase health insurance at a reasonable cost we could by across state lines.
But hell they couldn't control us as easy as they will be able to do under OBAMACARE.

Posted by: jhnjdy | January 24, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

TO: jhnjdy who wrote:
“If the Democrats really cared about our ability to purchase health insurance at a reasonable cost we could by across state lines.
But hell they couldn't control us as easy as they will be able to do under OBAMACARE.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nobody, but nobody is as concerned about “controlling” people as Republicans have been trying to control women’s wombs.

You obviously don’t understand the significance or repercussions of purchasing across states lines, and I don’t feel like trying to educate you.


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 24, 2011 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Why not waste weeks playing legislative parlor games? It's not as if the country has any real problems that Congress might address like, say, gun control, the deficit or global warming. Or jobs, for that matter.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 24, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse
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Gun control and global warming? LOL! What a loser and only a lib could have posted such drivel. Gun control is not needed and global warming/cooling/climate change/name dujour...is a fraud.

Posted by: steelers01 | January 24, 2011 6:27 PM | Report abuse

So now the Repugnants are going to waste time on health reform, just as they accused the Dems of doing during the last Congress?
Who do these losers (they've already lost) think they're fooling? Oh yeah -- what about the jobs? And, they want to revisit abortion, too.
Too bad for them that Terry Schiavo died -- they could spend months intervening in her medical care again. Oh, sorry, I forgot -- they say they are against government intervening in health care.
Unbelievable, childish hypocrites!!

Posted by: mylesgordon | January 24, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse
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Only a liberal thinks that repealing this pig of a bill is a waste of time. Americans do not. They don't want to "revisit" abortion..they just want to make damn sure that people like me tax dollars aren't going to pay for ANYONES abortion. Give them more than a few days to deal with jobs...after all, the libs have put it off for years now while they rammed the spread it around agenda through. Now it all has to be undone. The rest is just liberal spew.

Posted by: steelers01 | January 24, 2011 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Ah, a good ol' pissing contest. This is government for the people?

Posted by: elwoll | January 24, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I think everyone agrees that with more people being covered, health delivery services will be in higher demand. More people covered means more access to doctors, etc. which means that health providers AND health insurers are looking at boom days ahead.

How can this simultaneously be a job killer?

We have to also agree that employer-provided health care, as the basic model, is as up-to-date as an 8-track car stereo. Sure it plays music, but......

Posted by: joecairo | January 24, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Sure, bring it on! And let them PROVE how the taxes they target kill jobs. I'm sick and tired of people who want government services but refuse to pay for them. We've been losing jobs because of giving the rich tax cuts. Rich people don't reinvest in America - so we lose jobs.

The middle class spends money here in the USA! Why have we allowed the Republicans to redistribute wealth to the rich? Right now, the top 20% in income get 90% of the money. That leaves 10% for anyone that doesn't make over half a million a year. The poorest 25% share only 1%. No wonder they're on food stamps. No wonder we can't pay our mortgages!

Posted by: lurkittyfb | January 24, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Ehhh, all the fuss over this Health Insurance reform bill, it's not a problem if you have the right connections.

222 organizations now have waivers granted by the Obama Administration:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/seiu-locals-including-chicago-chapter-wa

Not a problem for them, just us.

Posted by: TominColorado | January 24, 2011 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Some pertinent observations by previous posters:
1) "Somewhere, in a parallel universe, there's a Congress that's getting something done."

(brilliant!) Maybe we can travel to that parallel universe and see what a USEFUL Mitch McConnell looks and acts like . . . .

2) "Why do we keep sending adolescents to Congress with their "retaliation" and school yard bullying at the expense of working taxpayers?
Has America really gone to hell this bad?"

Yup. And we voted the bullies into the HoR in a landslide. Yup, we is a brain! Yessir, we sure is!

3) "Ah, a good ol' pissing contest. This is government for the people?"

Yup, at least according to the people who think with the organs they use for urinating.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | January 24, 2011 8:56 PM | Report abuse

As usual from the republicon scum bags - not a single idea, just nonsense and phony baloney Orwellian names for whatever hair brained games they play to appease their drool covered base.

Posted by: John1263 | January 24, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Nobody, but nobody is as concerned about “controlling” people as Republicans have been trying to control women’s wombs.

You obviously don’t understand the significance or repercussions of purchasing across states lines, and I don’t feel like trying to educate you.

Linda go read the damn Bill that was passed and when your finished you give me a run down of who's going to be controlling me and my healthcare, because it sure won't be me and my doctor under ObamaCare.
Educate dear, I want to know all about how buying insurance across state lines can be so bad, competition never hurt the bottom line price in anything. Some of you just don't have the guts to compete, or the brains to poor urine out of your boots. You want it all handed to you on a silver platter by the socialist government that your so hell bent on promoting.

Posted by: jhnjdy | January 24, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Those of you saying "the public" wnats repeal -- sure some of the public does. Some of the public wants a more "socialist" government run program. And some of the public actually know and understand what is in the insurance reform law and they are fine with it as is, woth the caveat that as it phasees in there may be needs to tweak it along the way. Tea baggers and republicon radio are not the voice of "the people." They are the voice of a minority segment of the population. And if you took time to get NEWS instead of republicon talking points, facts instead of drivel, your opinion of this law would change to the favor column.

republicons need to attack this law for two reasons at this point.

Reason one - the people who bought them a congress insist. If they want that special interest money in two years they have to make a show of doing every dubious underhanded slimey back room trick they can think of to maintain the status quo. Insurance companies do not care how many Americans die needlessly. They do not care how many children suffer from easily treatable diseases. they do not care how many American families are driven to financial ruin. They do not care how badly immoral rates for health care premiums drag on the US economy and hold back our ecnomic prosperity. And thecertainly do not care about providing care to people who are catastrophically ill. They ONLY care about profit margins.

The second reason republicons must continue this farse is that when the law fully phases in and works as advertised they are going to look like total and complete lying chumps. It is similar to the reason bush ordered the UN inspectors out of Iraq and launched his disaster in March 2003. The inspectors were close to issuing final reports saying definitively that there were no WMD in Iraq. Once the lie was exposed the war would be called off because the lie would be exposed. So bush had to get the war started before his lie could be exposed. Republicons today want to try to undermine the reform law because it's taking effect exposes their lies.

Posted by: John1263 | January 24, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

As long as Republicans do the opposite of what Obama and the dems want, the Republicans are winners!! They were elected last Nov to do the opposite of what has been done the last 2 years. Obama and the dems lost. Sit down and shut up.

Posted by: annnort | January 24, 2011 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Republicons want to play games... but then YOU voted for them... CHEERS!

Posted by: whocares666 | January 24, 2011 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Repeal this Obamanation piece by piece if needed. The bureaucracy and the costs and the fascist enforcement procedures, not to mention the new property taxes to help pay for the bureaucracy to enforce the thousands of regulations that will control your health care for life.

Repeal it. It is a travesty born in corruption, extortion and bribery. A pathetic assault on Americans and their freedom to choose.

Posted by: LETFREEDOMRING2 | January 24, 2011 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Repeal this Obamanation piece by piece if needed. The bureaucracy and the costs and the fascist enforcement procedures, not to mention the new property taxes to help pay for the bureaucracy to enforce the thousands of regulations that will control your health care for life.

Repeal it. It is a travesty born in corruption, extortion and bribery. A pathetic assault, an unwanted mockery, and flimflam on Americans and their freedom to choose.

Posted by: LETFREEDOMRING2 | January 24, 2011 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Repeal this Obamanation of health ripoffs, piece by piece if needed. The bureaucracy and the costs and the fascist enforcement procedures, not to mention the new property taxes to help pay for the bureaucracy to enforce the thousands of regulations that will control your health care for life.

Repeal it. It is a travesty born in corruption, extortion and bribery. A pathetic assault, an unwanted mockery, and flimflam on Americans and their freedom to choose.

Posted by: LETFREEDOMRING2 | January 24, 2011 10:35 PM | Report abuse

So much for respectful and civil discourse! Perhaps the Republicans should vote on their $10 million a month pair of wars every 6 months or so, and while we're at it, for the expenditures to support overseas bases - which amount to a subsidy for those countries' taxpayers, and every weapon system.

Posted by: abcs86 | January 24, 2011 11:28 PM | Report abuse


If you are planning a mortgage refinance then you should search online for 123 mortgage refinance before you decide they found 3.25% refinance with bad credit history and also did instant analysis of my mortgage.

Posted by: gloverjody | January 25, 2011 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Wow, this article sure has a lot of words that might incite violence - "job killing" which the Republicans avoided on the debate and vote on the repeal in the house. "Threatening", "war".....aren't you afraid your writing might cause an unhinged soul to do something violent?

The Dems take the first move in response to the health care repeal in the House - refuse to bring the bill to the floor of the Senate. The Republicans respond that they will make sure if it brought to the floor; the Dems say they will make the Republicans vote of on the popular provisions which the Republicans have said they will replace with individual (and not 2400 pages) bills; the Republicans respond that they will bring forward amendments that put the spotlight on the bills that are going to cost jobs.....

like the 1099 requirement that is going to have to be filed with the IRS for any vendor who does 600 dollars in business....

like how Physician owned hospitals were banned in the health care law - how many of them were in the works that have now been shut down - last count was close to 100 hospitals right? HOW many jobs did that little jewel cost Americans?

Posted by: LMW6 | January 25, 2011 8:13 AM | Report abuse

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