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Posted at 11:37 AM ET, 01/26/2011

GOPers softening tone in wake of SOTU?

By Greg Sargent

Eric Cantor, on CBS News this morning, struck a distinctly cooperative tone in response to Obama's speech last night:

"The president and I are going to disagree on some things. I think I want to cut spending more than he does. I obviously disagree on the way to put health care in this country. But I did hear the president talk about some things that we can do to create jobs in this country such as simplify the tax code, lower the corporate rate so we can get people back to work, work on these trade deals so we can create more jobs at home. There are certainly some things we can work together on."

Note that Cantor acknowledges that Obama, too, wants to cut spending, but clarifies that Republicans simply want to cut spending more than the president does. Overall this is a distinctly softer than what we'd previously heard from GOP leaders like Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, both of whom have spent weeks effectively claiming that the onus for cooperation is entirely on Obama agreeing to do things the GOP's way.

Some have already observed this morning that Obama's call for simplifying the corporate tax code was a way to box Repubilcans in by getting them to reveal what they'd be in favor of in specific policy terms. Combine that with Obama's call for a spending freeze and you may see it become tougher for Republicans to draw the sharp contrast between themselves and Obama that they'd been drawing last year and in the wake of the "shellacking." The devil will be in the policy details, of course, and there are still massive and unbridgeable differences between Obama and the GOP. But Cantor, for one, clearly wants to telegraph a willingness to compromise with the President in a way that Republican leaders like McConnell and Boehner have been unwilling to do.

By Greg Sargent  | January 26, 2011; 11:37 AM ET
Categories:  2010 elections, House GOPers, Senate Republicans, bipartisanship, deficit  
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"seized control of the debate"


Obama WORKS FOR the American People.

We had the "debate" - its called an ELECTION.

This "debate" is OVER - The American People have spoken - they do not want Obama's spending or his liberal agenda.


The liberals are completely out of their minds.


OBAMA'S SPEECH WAS DISRESPECTFUL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND DISRESPECTFUL OF THE ELECTION.


Obama deserves what every employee gets when they don't do what they were hired to do: OBAMA DESERVES TO BE FIRED, ALONG WITH ALL THESE OTHER LIBERALS.

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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans hold the MANDATE

The Republicans in the House are far more reflective of where the country stands right now.


Obama and the liberals made a serious mistake: they took a vote in 2008 which was meant as NOTHING MORE THAN A POST-RACIAL GESTURE, and twisted it


Obama and the liberals attempted to claim the vote in 2008 meant support for the liberal agenda - it did not - OBAMA AND THE LIBERALS KNEW THEY WERE LYING THE WHOLE TIME.


America is sick of these games.


The most important thing is the Economy - and Obama really produced ZERO ECONOMIC POLICY last night


OBAMA'S ECONOMIC POLICY IS NOTHING MORE THAN "CLINGING" TO AN OUT-DATED AND ILLEGITIMATE HEALTH CARE BILL

A bill which NEVER had the support of the American People.


Obama is still "clinging"

Clinging to a REJECTED health care bill


Clinging to a REJECTED liberal agenda


Clinging to his twisted ideas

The American People are sick of this CLOWN OBAMA AND HIS LIBERAL CIRCUS.

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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Greg writes

"Obama's call for simplifying the corporate tax code was a way to box Repubilcans in by getting them to reveal what they'd be in favor of in specific policy terms"


_______________________

BUSTED AGAIN

Obama is again USING BIPARTISANSHIP TO ATTACK

This is NOT what the American people voted for, and it is not what the American people want.


It is HYPOCRISY - PURE AND SIMPLE


It is about time the CLOWN OBAMA LEAVE WASHINGTON - ALONG WITH THIS LIBERAL CIRCUS


The American People are completely sick of Obama's games and lack of being honest with the American People.

Again, Greg is simply accusing Obama of LYING IN FRONT OF CONGRESS.

Greg Sargent - is that what you meant - that Obama was LYING TO CONGRESS ???

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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Well, last night put to bed ANY question of Obie's I.Q. It is <90. The American public took away the checkbook from Dems in November because of runaway spending. Obie just proposed 5 years of spending increases.

BZZZT. A box o' Rice-a-Roni for Obie and the back door in '12...

Posted by: illogicbuster | January 26, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

@Greg

Taking the mantle of "simplifying the tax code" was a great move by Pres. Obama. Dems have been trying for years to close loopholes and end uneeded tax breaks, all of which get tagged by the GOP as a "tax hike". By closing all the loopholes and breaks as a way to "simplify" the tax code means less resistance - esp. if it's the way he spelled out. Close every loophole and end uneeded breaks, then lower the actual tax rate itself. You could likely bring in more revenue while still say the tax rate dropped.

Not only that, but doing this now is genius, because IF he holds true to his promise after the tax cut deal and allows the $200k+ cuts to expire, then those that normally would hide from the increase with clever accounting can't. I was shocked to see some liberals take a pot shot at Pres. Obama for mentioning that the upper-rate cuts should end (since he just signed their extention)...it signaled to me that he was being sincere when he said that he intended to fight against extending them again in 2012. He's already making the case against them...getting started early as opposed to last time, where Dems let themselves get boxed in.

I think people need to take a moment to see this speech for what it is...a political messaging tool. Sure there's policy involved, but it's much more about framing and politics at this point.

The speech, as a politically messaging tool, deserves a straight A.

The speech, policy-wise, I give a B-. I liked most of things I heard, but I also really didn't like a couple things I heard - and those things I didn't like are also in areas that I feel strongly about.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | January 26, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-Kickass) Introduces Pelosi-Care Repeal Bill in The Senate
http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=fea64424-fa20-47ee-aa45-0acd9763c4b9

Today, U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina) introduced legislation to fully repeal the Democrats’ government health care takeover that President Obama signed into law March 23, 2010.

Thirty-four Republicans have already cosponsored this bill.

“Republicans are standing with the American people who are demanding we repeal this government takeover of health care,” said Senator DeMint. “Repealing ObamaCare is vital to the future of our nation and the health of our people. ObamaCare will raise health costs, reduce choices, ration care, hike taxes, cut jobs, increase the national debt, and put bureaucrats between patients and their doctors. It’s time to start over and implement commonsense solutions that allow Americans to choose affordable plans across state lines, end frivolous lawsuits that drive up costs, and gives equitable tax treatment to those who don’t get insurance from their employer.”

*softening?*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 26, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

BREAKING: Hawaii Gov admits "There Is No Obama Birth Certificate"
http://nation.foxnews.com/birthers/2011/01/26/friend-says-hawaii-gov-told-him-there-no-obama-birth-certificate-daily-caller

Rev. Wright should burn a Koran every day until Obama releases his birth certificate.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 26, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyway

Greg is just re-printing some garbage produced by some nutty liberals.


The truth is exactly what is said above by the posters: the checkbook has been taken away from Obama. The REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE can VETO EVERYTHING.

The Republicans can send bills to the Senate - and the democrats have it from there.


It is that simple - The Republicans in the House can put MASSIVE SPENDING CUTS ON THE TABLE - and tell the Senate democrats and the CLOWN OBAMA - to take it or leave it.

The AMERICAN PEOPLE gave the checkbook to the Republicans


OBAMA IS NOW ON A BUDGET !!!


Get it straight Liberals, No more "debate"

No more games


No more discussions


No more spending


The liberals are still talking like there never was an election


Obama's proposals last night were SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

OBAMA DISRESPECTED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAIN.

And what is Obama doing in Wisconsin? The next election is a year and 10 months away.


WHY ISN'T OBAMA DOING HIS JOB IN WASHINGTON INSTEAD OF CAMPAIGNING IN WASHINGTON ????


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Ethan

sure seems like Ethan was fired by his handlers for participating in the smear campaign against Sarah Palin and the Tea Party - falsely accusing innocent people of mass murder


Not sure - but Ethan is gone


Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Nice analysis, BBQ, thanks much for that. Agreed on all counts.

Posted by: sargegreg | January 26, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Bill to make Obama produce his birth certificate (if he wants to run for President in 2012)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350760/Bid-make-Obama-produce-birth-certificate-wants-run-2012.html#ixzz1CA6ON4T2

President Barack Obama may have to produce his birth certificate if he wants to run for the White House in 2012, it emerged today.

Arizona Republican Judy Burges has introduced a bill which requires candidates to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
http://www.azleg.gov/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=HB2441&Session_Id=93&image.x=5&image.y=7

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 26, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I meant to say.

why isn't Obama doing his job in Washington, instead of campaigning in Wisconsin ???


Everytime Obama actually has to be bipartisan (like today would have been a great deal for meetings with Republicans) - Obama just leaves town.


It is amazing how often Obama leaves town.


What is that all about?


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

@Greg: "Nice analysis, BBQ, thanks much for that. Agreed on all counts."

You know I'm no Obama lover, Greg - but that SOTU last night was just awful.

And of course the GOP is going to "soften" when Obama agrees to their policies... simplify tax code, lower corporate tax rate, free trade? Conservative priorities all.

Posted by: sbj3 | January 26, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Greg

Why don't you do a piece on the MADNESS OF ABERCROMBIE

WHAT is this guy doing?

I suppose there are these possibilities:


1) Is he really an idiot? Trying to help Obama, but sinking him?

2) For some reason, Abercrombie is working without Obama - a snub or something -

3) This is a conspiracy - to stir up the birthers and Obama really wants this story to be in the news

4) Obama is a spy for another country


5) Why is Abercrombie so convinced that the child he say he knew is really Obama?

Also, Abercrombie NOW says he remembers Obama as a 5 year old, playing t-ball. (first, the way Obama throws, that is IMPOSSIBLE)

However, Obama's father divorced - so Abercrombie probably would have seen the young Obama AFTER the divorce.

But when did Obama move to Indonesia???


Obama's mother supposedly moved to Washington State soon after Obama was born - so Abercrombie must have met Obama during visits to Hawaii or some other time.


There is something wrong here.


At this point, the HOSPITAL-GENERATED FORM WITH A DOCTOR'S SIGNATURE HAS TO BE PRODUCED

Otherwise, the country has to come to the conclusion THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT WHAT THE LIBERALS HAVE BEEN SAYING.


This issue has to be addressed.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Steven Pearlstein notes, rightly, I think:

"When talking about the federal government and its budget deficit, Republican politicians love to score points by noting that "you'd never run your household or your business that way."

Then again, you'd never run your household or your business by ignoring investment. Yet now that President Obama has proposed stepped-up public investment in infrastructure, energy, education and basic research, Republicans have suddenly decided their favorite analogy no longer applies.

...

"Republicans, it turns out, have no public investment strategy, just as they have no health-care strategy and no agreed-upon blueprint for reducing federal spending. What they have are poll-tested talking points, economic delusions and an overwhelming partisan instinct to say "no" to anything Barack Obama proposes. In their response to the president's State of the Union message, they remind us once again that they are not serious about economic policy and not ready to govern.

In framing his retooled economic and political strategy, the president emphasized using public money to leverage private investment and innovation, once a popular Republican theme."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/25/AR2011012506715.html

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 26, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Obviously RainForestRising never bothered to pay attention to the Presidency until a Black Man dared to win the office. Presidents always go out on the road after the State of the Union Address, it's a tradition, dear newbie.

Posted by: dcle | January 26, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

"I was shocked to see some liberals take a pot shot at Pres. Obama for mentioning that the upper-rate cuts should end (since he just signed their extention)...it signaled to me that he was being sincere when he said that he intended to fight against extending them again in 2012. He's already making the case against them...getting started early as opposed to last time, where Dems let themselves get boxed in."
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It also emphasizes a difference between the two parties that distinctly favors Democrats. Polls showed voters wanted the tax cuts at the top to expire. Why wouldn't you bring that up every chance you get?

It also emphasizes that he compromised and worked with the other side. While that may bother some of the liberal posters here, it both cuts against the image of Obama that conservatives try to paint and appeals to independent voters which everyone agrees is vital to winning the election.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | January 26, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

(snicker)

"House Speaker John Boehner told reporters Wednesday morning that he did not watch Michele Bachmann's Tuesday night response response to the State of the Union.

"No I did not," Boehner said at his weekly press conference. "I had other obligations."

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 26, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

dcle

You know that statement about me is not true


It would be nice if Obama actually did something UNPRECENDENTED - and actually started to do what he said he was going to do on the NEXT DAY


How about that? Obama actually having meetings with Republicans the next day to work on bipartisanship


HA, that is a laugh, right?


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Ryan and Cantor gave tempered responses to Obama's SOTU speech. Bachmann took out her flame thrower without a single idea except attack Obama and blame him, red meat for her Tea Party acolytes.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 26, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

RainForestRising it must really be tough to go through life with all the venom you have pent up inside yourself.

Posted by: dougharty | January 26, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

@BBQ Chicken

Like Greg I agree with your analysis. And I think you are dead on when you posit that closing loopholes sounds far better than raising taxes. Words do matter. As for your grades...also agree..except I give him a B+ instead of minus for content. He actually came out stronger than I thought he would on honoring the timetables that end these two stupid wars.

OT...I never realized Clawrence lived in Alaska...:-)

Check out this Craigs List Post..

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/death-threat-palin-critic

"I find it very offensive that Andre Mclead [sic] is asking the state for every e-mail written or received in ANY account maintained by Palin and her husband. Where does this b!tch get off thinking the public should shell out for her revenge for the Palin family. I've heard enough from this, and I would like to use stronger words to express my feeling for Andre. Well…I think Andre has used up to [sic] much oxygen. So I have my scope cross hair on her head! She better watch out, the request may have been her last!

I know you won't publish this. ADN relish in bashing the Palin's too!"

Whew. Have the temerity to even QUESTION the sainted sister sarah and you receive death threats...not she would appeal to violent wackos..again just a coincidence.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 26, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

@suekzoo1

Good points from the Pearlstein column. I happen to agree with the idea of the infrastructure bank as a way to rationalize the funding and planning of large infrastructure projects where the Federal government has an appropriate role to play.

Republicans would be better served not arguing against investment per se, but rather in pointing out the difference between spending for investment and for new entitlements and making the point that entitlements are crowding out everything else. Best example of this is New Jersey with the pension issues crowding out spending on the new tunnel (along with the new projected cost overruns).

To govern is to chose. Thus far, the voters have seen little evidence of the Democrats being willing to set priorities on spending since they controlled both Houses of Congress and the Presidency for the past two years. Instead we got a mantra of all Government spending is good per Keynesian economics and across the board increases for entitlements and pork barrel earmarks alike leading to record deficits & debt. The failure to pass a budget or the regular appropriation bills last year (again with full Democratic control of the Congress and the Presidency) further undermines the Democrats position. If you are going to make a case that the Federal government can behave responsibly and couple targeted short term investment with long term deficit reduction, then it helps to pass the budget and appropriation bills on time.

My acid test will be whether or not the President tackles farm subsidies in the upcoming budget. Between the tea party and the progressives with environmental concerns, there's a real opportunity here for presidential leadership to make a difference if he chooses to exercise it. My starting proposal would be to eliminate all farm subsidies on a phase out schedule and use 50% of the savings for deficit reduction and 50% for new investment. However, I'm not holding my breath for anything this creative given Obama's rejection out of hand of the deficit commission proposals.

I also think it's easier to get a budget deal if you attack everyone's sacred cows at the same time. I.e. Defense, farm subsidies, Social Security and other entitlements, upper income tax rates should all be addressed in proposal (i.e the budget) so that no one political group is taking all the hits.

Posted by: jnc4p | January 26, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING: Hawaii Gov admits "There Is No Obama Birth Certificate"
http://nation.foxnews.com/birthers/2011/01/26/friend-says-hawaii-gov-told-him-there-no-obama-birth-certificate-daily-caller

Rev. Wright should burn a Koran every day until Obama releases his birth certificate.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst
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Old news for a birther, the governor said he attended social functions with the Obamas having the infant Barack in tow. Like the Mombassa birth certificate, the hospital was not built when our president was born. Take your nonsense elsewhere with your zero hero DeMint.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 26, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

dcle

Do you have to bring race into these travel plans???


Serious, the next thing out from you will probably be FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM


Well, let me ask you this: are you easier on Obama BECAUSE he is black?


Or were you harsher on Bush, holding him to higher standards, like lying.

When Obama lies, do you run around with signs saying Obama lied, Obama lied??

OTHERWISE, YOU ARE A RACIST.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 26, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Tea-bagger republicans "softening" their tone?
All I heard from Ryan and Bachman after the speech was fear mongering and outright lies (george W. and the tea-bagger republicans didn't EXPLODE the deficit on their last watch????).
Eric Cantor is just trying to put lipstick on the pig of a party he represents, without being honest for a second about his plans to move massive amounts of our nations wealth to the already bloated rich corporatisis, while dumping the old, poor and infirm onto the streets.
In Cantors America, only the rich would get healthcare, police protection, fire and rescue service, while the rest of us would pay tolls just to use our neighborhood streets, the one we've already paid for and that he wants to turn over to private interests.
Beware, America.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | January 26, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

All, looks like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce agrees with Obama about infrastructure spending:

http://wapo.st/g6UXE6

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 26, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

jnc4p: "Republicans would be better served not arguing against investment per se, but rather in pointing out the difference between spending for investment and for new entitlements and making the point that entitlements are crowding out everything else. "

Yeah, but so far...crickets.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 26, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, last night put to bed ANY question of Obie's I.Q. It is <90. The American public took away the checkbook from Dems in November because of runaway spending. Obie just proposed 5 years of spending increases.

BZZZT. A box o' Rice-a-Roni for Obie and the back door in '12...

Posted by: illogicbuster
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Must have a higher IQ than you, that fails to realize the GOP deposited 840 billion into the checking account. That is more than stimulus which turned a 700,000 a month job loss into a 100,000 gain. Starting at 100,000 plus with an additional checkbook deposit what do you think will happen? Fact is job creation gets to 150,000 Obama will win in 2012. Reagan slaughtered Dukakis in 84 saying debt is good and I don't think Americans have changed that much when their own situation gets better.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 26, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"No I did not," Boehner said at his weekly press conference. "I had other obligations."


Starting with a smoke & double scotch.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | January 26, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

It not difficult to change the Tax Code. If we follow the suggestion of Malcom Forbes and adopt a Flat Tax we would eliminate all of the deductions. The taxpayer would simply claim what he made and multiply that times the appropriate tax rate. No page after page of figures. Not need to consult tax specialists, just a one page form, no hours of preparation, no need for computer programs.
The best part of the "flat tax" is that the rich as well as the less than rich would operate on a level playing field. Why can't our politicians see the wisdom in this change?

Posted by: MALBENNET | January 26, 2011 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I hope your right about Cantor. It’s a shame it takes a tragedy to encourage some rational conversation to take place in public. Unfortunately actions in life are about incentives and given the deep divide between political parties and the sophomoric behavior of many voters, I fear these conversations will be short lived. The average voter may hate the political sleight of hand that is routine in Washington, but the reliable base clamors for it. Just look at the comments on this thread! At least half of these comments make little attempt to address the point of your article and instead involve completely unrelated accusations typed out in caps. These commentators came here to argue, not to find points of agreement.
If Obama’s speech was brilliant in only one point (it did have flaws), it was that it pointed out the points of agreement (co-opted if you prefer us-vs-them lingo). Most of us –if not all of us- would like to see the deficit reduced. Most of us would agree with tax reform. Most of us want a functioning healthcare system and clearly the old system wasn’t getting it done. But in order to do these things we need to change the incentives. We need to stop rewarding politicians for scoring political points and telling us what we want to hear. We need to set up a system that rewards politicians for telling us the truth. But that can’t happen until voters grow up and take the blame for creating a system that rewards talking points rather than rational discussions.

Posted by: one_timer | January 26, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the idea that the SOTU was a brilliant political messaging tool, and I also agree that the President managed to take control of the political climate and reframe it in a way that backs the GOP into a corner. In other words, he's playing offense again, even though he's having to face the reality of a GOP-controlled House.

I would also add that it's the first offical salvo of the 2012 presidential election. Think about it...."We do big things" is the logical next progression of "Yes, We Can."

He's still building on his theme of Hope from 2008, but it's tempered now by the political reality of being the President.

And quite interestingly, the GOP in both of their responses, played right into the trap. They preached fear while he's once again building on hope.

While President Obama says, "yes, we can, we can do big things together in this country"....the GOP says, "no, we can't, be afraid, the sky is falling."

Rather brilliant move on the part of the president. And perhaps in the clear light of day, Cantor realizes this and is trying to mitigate the damage done last night by Ryan and Bachmann.

Posted by: elscott | January 26, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Violent political rhetoric in the media has no impact on the mentally ill. It does impact extremists and criminals. But there has yet to be a case where violent political rhetoric in the media led a mentally ill person to harm a politician. If the politicians want to play nice that's their choice, but they should not spread the falsehood that the mentally ill are influenced by the media. Some mentally ill people can't be persuaded to come in out of the freezing cold by social workers standing over them.

Posted by: blasmaic | January 26, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"It not difficult to change the Tax Code. If we follow the suggestion of Malcom Forbes and adopt a Flat Tax we would eliminate all of the deductions. The taxpayer would simply claim what he made and multiply that times the appropriate tax rate. No page after page of figures. Not need to consult tax specialists, just a one page form, no hours of preparation, no need for computer programs.
The best part of the "flat tax" is that the rich as well as the less than rich would operate on a level playing field. Why can't our politicians see the wisdom in this change?

Posted by: MALBENNET | January 26, 2011 1:42 PM | Report abuse"

It must be nice to live in the land of pie in the sky.

"The taxpayer would simply claim what he made" -- and just how would corporations arrive at this figure? And forget corporations, how about a sole proprietorship?

And just what do you think the "appropriate rate" for this mystical tax should be?

You have no clue, my friend.

Posted by: Observer691 | January 26, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"Why can't our politicians see the wisdom in this change?"

It's pretty simple actually. They reasons are called lobbyists and special interests.

One example for illustration. If you totally eliminate the current code and deductions that will be the end of the home mortgage deduction and the deduction on 2nd homes. Every Realtor Organization in every state, usually the largest professional group in any state with large PACs and lobbyists as well as the NAR..another huge group with Pacs and lobbyists would go nuckin futs. The howl and screaming would be heard around the world. In addition..current homeowners and second homeowners who have made their investments with these deductions as a strong influencing factor would also be up in arms.

Like most things..flat tax sounds great in theory...not so easy in reality.

And remember I've just listed ONE obvious example...there are literally thousands of those kinds of examples throughout our tax code.

BTW I'm not saying I disagree with the "concept" of a flat tax...just pointing out the difficulties.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 26, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

No, they are still as arrogant and inflexible as ever. And still as infatuated with war as ever. And still in total denial of global warming and science in general. And still believe that healthcare is a luxury item for the rich. And still believe that tax cuts for the uber-rich does anything good for the country. And still believe that the earth is flat

Posted by: staussfamily | January 26, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"The Republicans hold the MANDATE"

hogwash- they hold a slim majority on ONE of the legislative houses

Posted by: staussfamily | January 26, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"Eric Cantor, on CBS News this morning, struck a distinctly cooperative tone in response to Obama's speech last night"

It's a trap or O must have given him some Britney tickets.

http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2009/03/eric-cantor-seen-at-britney-spears-concert.html

Posted by: Patriot3 | January 26, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Observer:

God requires ten percent; the gov't ought to requirte no more.

And corporations have books, which record their earnings and profits.

Corporate taxation is a myth anyway. It's merely a stealth consumer tax.

The reason the Leftists will not adopt a flat tax is because they need to manipulate the people. The current tax code has little to do with actually collecting revenue for the sustenance of the bureaucracies; it has more to do with "fairness", as defined by Karl Marx.

You, it seems, are the one without the clue.

Posted by: ScottinVA | January 26, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

@ScottinVA

Dude as soon as Marx came out of your typewriter you lost any shred of credibility.
Time to adjust your tinfoil hat!

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 26, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

try again KaddafiDelendaEst

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/

Posted by: cfw0905 | January 26, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

One notable moment on tone. I caught Mitch McConnell on C-SPAN over the weekend at an event sponsored by Politico. It was notable in that it was the first time in awhile I heard a Republican refer to the DemocratIC party. Repeatedly.

As Cillizza stated, the whole Democrat Party thing is childish. If you can't even be bothered to pronounce someone's name correctly, don't whine about not being included in the process.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 26, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

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