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Posted at 8:57 AM ET, 01/12/2011

Sarah Palin and `blood libel'

By Greg Sargent

I didn't have a chance to put together a morning roundup today, so let's just lead off with Sarah Palin's video response to critics who alleged that her crosshairs map and no-holds-barred rhetoric contributed to a political climate that may have helped lead to the Arizona massacre:

Sarah Palin: "America's Enduring Strength" from Sarah Palin on Vimeo.

A few quick things to note. First, the obvious care that went into making this video -- the pre-written script is over seven minutes long; she clearly rehearsed the reading at some length; and the backdrop includes an American flag on the right flank -- demonstrate once again that Palin and her advisers knew this was a potential make-or-break moment. Palin, of course, has long taken her case directly to supporters via Twitter and Facebook, while not permitting herself to be exposed to any journalistic cross-examination. Utilizing a pre-taped video message is a new twist on that strategy, and a reflection of how high the stakes have become.

Second, her core accusation on the video, the one that was clearly selected with an intent to drive headlines, not only accuses critics of "blood libel," but actually accuses them of expressing concern and outrage about the shooting in bad faith, as if they are doing so in an effort to do nothing more than damage her politically:

Vigorous and spirited public debates during elections are among our most cherished traditions. And after the election, we shake hands and get back to work, and often both sides find common ground back in D.C. and elsewhere. If you don't like a person's vision for the country, you're free to debate that vision. If you don't like their ideas, you're free to propose better ideas. But, especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.

Note the word "purport." Finally, Palin, wholly unapologetic all the way, ridiculed those who have called on her to tone it down, and even cited Gabrielle Giffords's reading of the First Amendment on the House floor to bolster her case:

We will not be stopped from celebrating the greatness of our country and our foundational freedom by those who mock its greatness by being intolerant of differing opinion and seeking to muzzle dissent with shrill cries of imagined insults.

Just days before she was shot, Congresswoman Giffords read the First Amendment on the floor of the House. And it was a beautiful moment, and more than simply symbolic, as some claim...but less than a week after Congresswoman Giffords reaffirmed our protected freedoms, another member of Congress announced that he would propose a law that would criminalize speech that he found offensive.

Unfortunately for Palin, Giffords herself was one of those who objected to the crosshairs map. "The way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district," Giffords said last March. "When people do that, they've gotta realize there's consequences to that action."

In other words, Palin's phony framing of the issue -- that by raising concerns about her word-choice and imagery, critics are trying to deprive Palin of her First Amendment freedoms, rather than simply asking her to be more mindful of the potential consequences of incendiary rhetoric -- is one that Giffords herself rejects.

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UPDATE, 10:59 a.m.: Don't miss Adam Serwer on the foolishness of Palin's use of the term "blood libel."

By Greg Sargent  | January 12, 2011; 8:57 AM ET
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Getting back to the main point of the week


Obama's allies conducted a smear campaign this weekend - and that needs to be fully investigated.

In fact, Obama's FBI Director was standing next to Dupnik when Dupnik made inflammatory statements against innocent Americans - attempting to link them to crimes they did not commit.


In fact, Dupnik had prior reports of the actions of the suspect. Dupnik ACTUALLY had evidence which pointed AWAY from the Tea Party.


Instead of quietly conducting a professional criminal investigation, the country saw Dupnik trumping up charges at American who he must have known were completely innocent.

This was an intentional smear campaign -

What Obama people were involved in this smear campaign???


What Obama Federal officials took part, or remained silent, while Obama's operation smeared innocent people???


THE NATION DESERVES A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF OBAMA.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 8:59 AM | Report abuse

PALIN 2012!

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I think Rep. Giffords' husband should apologize to Palin for saying that the Tea Party was his wife's enemy after she was nearly assassinated. And if the Congresswoman ever speaks again she should apologize to Plain for not being sufficiently Right Wing and American.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:04 AM | Report abuse

I have to wonder if she understands the choice of the words "blood libel" or if she just picked it up from the WSJ headlines because it sounded sort of dramatic. Does she realize the Congresswoman is Jewish? She has a weird way of becoming the victim in every situation.

Posted by: lmsinca | January 12, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Does this mean that Sarah is willing to engage in debate on the issues rather than issuing soundbites?

Posted by: Judy_L | January 12, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

So, Sarah, put more crosshairs up.

Posted by: Papagnello | January 12, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

We've already covered this but once again, from Wiki:

"Blood libel (also blood accusation refers to a false accusation or claim that religious minorities, almost always Jews, murder children to use their blood in certain aspects of their religious rituals and holidays. Historically, these claims have–alongside those of well poisoning and host desecration–been a major theme in European persecution of Jews."

Sarah Palin is a persecuted minority. Got it.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

All, apologies for the lack of morning roundup today. some stuff came up.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 12, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

"All, apologies for the lack of morning roundup today. some stuff came up."

No problem, Greg. We'll just have to muddle through somehow.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Yes, it must be a conspiracy. Giffords made those statements about Palin's website and then got herself shot just to make Palin look bad. Tinfoil hat too snug today?

Posted by: heveymana | January 12, 2011 9:08 AM | Report abuse

She is congenitally victimized.

Posted by: Papagnello | January 12, 2011 9:09 AM | Report abuse

it's all about sarah, of course. ugh. this woman disgusts me.

Posted by: ebproducer | January 12, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

wbgonne, thanks. I thought she was just making something up.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 12, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Wow. But at least we get to talk about Republican candidates for 2012 again. Poor Karl Rove, maybe this time the split between the base and the money is going to tear the party up.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Later, All. Keep the faith.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I, for one, think we need to give Palin a pass here. After all, she was apparently the victim of some sort of mass killing in AZ only a couple days ago.

*crickets*

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | January 12, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Blood libel


Within hours, liberals on this blog were trying to blame Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.


AND Sheriff Dupnik was making his statements - even though he had reports of prior conduct by the suspect which clearly led in another direction.


Disgraceful - the ONLY thing that is acceptable here is STRONG WORDS FROM DEMOCRATS AGAINST THIS CONDUCT. And that applies to Obama as well. As Obama did not IMMEDIATELY CALL FOR A STOP to this false linkages, it is clear that Obama was encouraging them and supporting them.

This is in sharp contrast to the way Obama has RUSHED to the microphone to tell people to hold back judgement when a Muslim has been involved in an incident.


Obama has some REAL ISSUES HERE - this is SHAMEFUL. There needs to be an INVESTIGATION.

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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Dupnik!!!

A partisan, Democrat activist hiding behind a sheriff's badge.

Liberal glory hound.

Fake!

Posted by: battleground51 | January 12, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Rehearsed? I believe you can see the teleprompter reflected in her glasses as she reads from it.

Posted by: ericinPA | January 12, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

ebproducer, how is "God Bless America" all about Sarah?!

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse

When does she get her very own commemorative blood libel assault rifle?

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/01/special_limited_collectors_edition.php?ref=fpblg

Posted by: pragmaticagain | January 12, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse

What is the status of her crosshairs poster/image?

Someone should ask her if she is willing to continue posting crosshairs as part of her defense of free speech against the blood libel cabal, or, is she really better at playing the victim (again) now?

Posted by: Papagnello | January 12, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey Sarah,

YOU WERE NOT THE VICTIM HERE. STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE US THAT YOU WERE VICTIMIZED.

Posted by: RUexperienced | January 12, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I am surprised a picture of her holding Trig wasn't in the tableau, over there on the left side.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 9:19 AM | Report abuse

All,

Here is the "message of love" that I received in my inbox this morning from Floyd Brown's "Expose Obama" email list:

"""It's beyond disgusting. Within hours of the gunshots ringing out in Arizona, the Left was already scheming on how to use this horrendous tragedy to its advantage... as people were grieving and fighting for their very lives, THEY were already pointing fingers and attacking patriotic Americans like you.    

The Left has no civility, the Left has no dignity, the Left has no sense of humanity. While millions of Americans prayed desperate prayers for those who were brutally assaulted and their families, these SICK individuals smeared themselves in the blood of the dying to score political points.    

Still, I suppose we should have seen it was coming. After all Barack Obama's former Chief of Staff, Rahm Emmanuel once said that you should never let a crisis go to waste. So, why shouldn't these violent murders NOT be exploited... used as a tool to bludgeon God-fearing conservative Americans?    

These actions by the Left are beyond comprehension. Those on the Left do not care for you... they do not care for this great country. In some cases, it's possible that some of them didn't even care about the victims of this horrendous tragedy... because their only concern was to falsely accuse those who DARE to oppose them of pulling the trigger.    

Their message was clear: If you are patriotic "you killed those people," if you believe you have a right to criticize Barack Obama's socialist agenda "you killed those people," if you believe that in this Great Nation that you still have the right to free speech "you killed those people," if you oppose ANYTHING that is on the radical liberal socialist liberty-stealing agenda "you killed those people."

-----------------------

Awesome, right?

Floyd Brown is a mainstream Republican propagandist. He is NOT a fringe grassroots-type. He is a Republican insider.

Look him up. And please ask your congressional representatives if they approve of this language.

Will someone please ask Sarah Palin if this is the message of love that we need right now in this country.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 12, 2011 9:19 AM | Report abuse

shrink

I keep forgetting to tell you that the most recent overall polling suggests Huckabee for 2012. I read it somewhere over the weekend. What do you think?

Posted by: lmsinca | January 12, 2011 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Liberal Talking Points


So, after attempting to blame Sarah Palin for a crime which she had nothing to do with, blaming her words....


the liberals come out today.... with more inflammatory rhetoric complaining about her words.......

The country is sick of the liberals.


The liberals just can't say that they were wrong - and apologize.


Instead, the liberals have to carry on and on and on.....


At this point, the liberals SHOULD BE HEAD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DID THIS WEEKEND.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Dupnik is unfit for his public office.

He's a hysterical, partisan clown.

A sheriff ought to be made of sterner stuff.

The people of Arizona deserve better.

Posted by: battleground51 | January 12, 2011 9:23 AM | Report abuse

This is only setting the stage for Obama's speech today. The networks will air Palin's "I'm the Victim" speech against Obama's call to remember the bereaved.

Is she ever a ditz, an ardent ditz, but still, a ditz.

Posted by: Papagnello | January 12, 2011 9:23 AM | Report abuse

RainForestRising,

YES SIR!!!!

I think you are 120% CORRECT. There needs to BE SOMEONE that LOOKS INTO all of THIS!!!!!!


Keep EM COMING!!!!!


You are FUNNY POSTER!!!!

You have my RESPECT!!!!


.

Posted by: somethingelse2 | January 12, 2011 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Insinca

I know you are trying to highlight Republicans - so you can demonize them.


The important thing is the AMERICAN PEOPLE want Obama OUT in the next election.


MAKE NO MISTAKE


And this is going to get nasty.


THE COUNTRY IS SICK OF THE LIBERALS AND THEIR GARBAGE.

Get it?


Because I don't think you get it. I think you believe you can be nasty to people and discourage them from expressing their views.


You are the nasty one - you and the liberals are the ones who are leaving.


.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 9:24 AM | Report abuse

The shooter is obviously mentally ill and all reasonable people would agree that his actions were unprovoked and his own.

That doesn’t mean that he wasn’t affected by the incendiary rhetoric that is used to rile up stupid and bigoted people for Palin’s ongoing popularity contest. Not all Palin supporters are disaffected white gun nuts who see government as the enemy. But I bet most if not all disaffected white gun nuts who see government as the enemy are Palin supporters.

There should be an IQ test for government service including elected officials. That way she never would have been governor and we would have never heard of her. The world would be a better place.

Posted by: DriveDaLane | January 12, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Ethan


Is your point that you have dignity?


just checking....

.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Ims, I heard Mike Huckabee on right wing radio speak about the shooting, that was on Monday morning. It was perhaps the most compassionate, least political statement I have heard from anyone, bar none. I wish I had a transcript. It was outstanding.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 9:26 AM | Report abuse

"as if they are doing so in an effort to do nothing more than damage her politically"

I think everyone was looking to either defend himself or put up some points on the scoreboard after this. For example, Pawlenty saw an opportunity to discredit Palin and took it in an effort to improve his own standing. This is just a byproduct of the politicization of every aspect of life. Everything from what kind of coffee i buy (is it fair trade?) to what kind of dog the President got (he didn't go a shelter?!?!).

I also don't think this can be called an assassination attempt -- at least not until it is established that this was done for political reasons. An attack on a prominent or public figure is not an assassination unless the motive was political in nature. But my calling it that, the press politicizes the actions of deranged man.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 12, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Blood libel vs actual civilian blood on your hands, Sarah. Man up and admit that the shooter did just what you murderers on the right wing asked him to do.

Posted by: wideblacksky | January 12, 2011 9:29 AM | Report abuse

"I also don't think this can be called an assassination attempt"

That's what the assassin called it.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:30 AM | Report abuse

RainForestRising,
nevermind THOSE OTHER GUYS!

YOU keep telling US how it is!!!!

NEVER MINd thoSE WHO dont get it!!!!

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Posted by: somethingelse2 | January 12, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Palin is toast as a viable political candidate. But don't worry Clawrence she'll still make a gazillion $ as a pundit and reality show host. Ironically her Wild Alaska show was cancelled for next year because of the upcoming 2012 election and equal time and gravitas questions that would come up if she did the show again next year.
Now that she knows she's finished as a viable candidate perhaps she can get the show back on the air.

Talking to my Fox/Glen Beck/Sarah Palin loving 85 year old mom yesterday was such a relief. Ohhh she'll still vote R every election...no problem...but at least she is starting to come to her senses. She now believes that people who carry guns to political rallies and threaten violence if their side doesn't win at the ballot box are evil idiots and this has lowered her opinion of the TP dramatically.

She still loves Sarah Palin, thinks she has a great personality and is spunky but now says she hopes Palin never again runs for office. She's reflecting back now on Palin's body of work...(not this shooting she doesn't believe it's Palin's fault...nor do I BTW) the divisive "real" American campaign...he's a terrorist...my mother now thinks Obama has bad policy ideas but is a nice man who means well...she likes him personally if she dislikes him politically. She hopes Sarah stays on TV but gets out of politics.

One anecdotal story does not make something fact. But IMHO my mother is probably pretty representative of a large swath of senior citizens.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 12, 2011 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it ironic that in response to a claim that incendiary political rhetoric may lead to political violence Palin accuses her enemies of "blood libel," the slaughtering of innocent children? No, Palin does not get it at all. She never will. She will just have to fade away like a bad TV reality show.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Go, ruk's Mom!

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey, you Obama, media flacks!!!

Please, I beg of you! Get over your Sarah Palin obsession! She's yesterday's news. Really. Most conservatives/Republicans have gotten over her. She's a good cheerleader and distraction but not a serious contender.

Only foolish liberals are still head-over-heels over Sarah.

You're obsessed. Get help before you drive us real people nuts with your disturbed, Sarah mania.

Have you noticed how muted Obama is over the Arizona tragedy??

He's playing it cool, this time.

Clever fella!

Posted by: battleground51 | January 12, 2011 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Leave it to Sarah Palin to identify the true victim of the Tucson shootings: Sarah Palin.

That was sarcasm.

Posted by: LincolnX | January 12, 2011 9:35 AM | Report abuse

"That's what the assassin called it."

If he called it a purification ritual, would he be a shaman?

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Here it is again, the message from the Right:

"""If you are patriotic "you killed those people," if you believe you have a right to criticize Barack Obama's socialist agenda "you killed those people," if you believe that in this Great Nation that you still have the right to free speech "you killed those people," if you oppose ANYTHING that is on the radical liberal socialist liberty-stealing agenda "you killed those people.""""

Can't you feel the Republican love today???

Please write your local paper and ask Republicans of all stripes to condemn this disgusting hate speech.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 12, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"that Palin and her advisers knew this was a potential make-or-break moment"

Make or break for what? Certainly not political office, or she wouldn't have used the words "blood libel" (seriously, what?) or brought up dueling as a method of settling political differences.

Love this woman. But if she thinks she has any chance of ever being elected to much of anything, I think she's a victim of over-optimism.

@wideblacksky: "Blood libel vs actual civilian blood on your hands, Sarah. Man up and admit that the shooter did just what you murderers on the right wing asked him to do."

Well. You know, when two tribes go to war, a point is all that you can score. So, relax. Don't do it. When you want to go to it. Relax . . .

@lmsinca: "I keep forgetting to tell you that the most recent overall polling suggests Huckabee for 2012. I read it somewhere over the weekend. What do you think?"

Interesting. And I realize you're not asking me what I think, but I'm not going to vote for him, either in the primary, or the general. So, good luck to him, but I doubt it will come to pass. If someone else wants it in the primary, the primaries will be brutal on Huckabee if he's the front-runner. He governed to the left of Romney in many ways, and that leaves him vulnerable to Tea Party types, some of whom may be swayed by his evangelical background, but many others may not.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | January 12, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

The liberals said enough last weekend.


Do you get it???


More attacks on Sarah Palin??? Is that appropriate. It is shameful.


The democrats have overstayed their welcome.

Now they are becoming obnoxious on top of it.

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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Sarah does love her some telescreen doesn't she?

I wonder how long it will be before all politicos follow her lead and engage in strictly one way communications.

1984 in 2011...

Posted by: unymark | January 12, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

novahockey writes
"I also don't think this can be called an assassination attempt -- at least not until it is established that this was done for political reasons."

The reporting I've heard is that Loughner's ire stemmed from an interaction with Rep Giffords in 2007, where she apparently answered his questions/concerns in a way unsatisfying to him. While one might argue that this was a personal reaction rather than a political one, it was a reaction to a the statement of a public official. I think trying to claim it wasn't political is splitting a pretty fine hair; and to what point?

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 12, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

"I also don't think this can be called an assassination attempt" That's what the assassin called it.

Well, he didn't exactly have a way with words. I think it's sloppy word choice by the press, but whatever. MLK was assassinated. I wouldn't call what happened to Reagan an assassination attempt, because it was not motivated by politics. I'm more interested in this aspect as more of a media criticism than anything else.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 12, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

"She will just have to fade away like a bad TV reality show."

Is it better to burn out, or fade away?

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 12, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"That's what the assassin called it."

If he called it a purification ritual, would he be a shaman?
Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 9:36 AM | Report abuse

No and he wouldn't be an astronaut just because he said so either. But being an assassin takes no training, skill or qualifications: it simply requires the intent to assassinate. Which Loughner said he had. He said he planned to assassinate Rep. Giffords and then he nearly did it. Irrelevant? I think not.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

While one might argue that this was a personal reaction rather than a political one...I'd argue it was a psychotic reaction.

I feel depressed, I feel so bad
'Cause you're the best girl that I ever had
I can't get your love, I can't get a fraction
Uh-oh, little girl, psychotic reaction
(shouted) And it feels like this!
[Instrumental break]
I feel so lonely night and day
I can't get your love, I must stay away
I need you girl, by my side
Uh-oh, little girl, would you like to take a ride, now
I can't get your love, I can't get satisfaction
Uh-oh, little girl, psychotic reaction
[Instrumental break]

By the Count Five

This is by way of saying I don't think it was a political killing. I've made that point already though, to mixed reviews.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 9:44 AM | Report abuse

@shrink2: "If he called it a purification ritual, would he be a shaman?"

Don't we call Hinkley's shooting of Reagan an assassination attempt, even thought it was his mental illness (and the ethereal beauty of Jodie Foster) that drove him to do what he did?

The bigger question is, since I call my morning shower a purification ritual, I can call myself a shaman. Right? Agreed.

Please refer to me in the future as "Your Revered Most Holy, Shaman Awesome-O".

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | January 12, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps there is a silver lining in this dark cloud. Perhaps this will force our society to take a closer look at mental illness and address the myriad problems and total misconceptions such as some I've held until I read this article written by a neuropsychologist. He is from Britain and so he has not political interest in this discussion his only prejudice would come from his profession.

"Too easy to blame illness for shooting"

Shortly after Jared Lee Loughner had been identified as the alleged shooter of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, online sleuths turned up pages of rambling text and videos he had created. A wave of amateur diagnoses soon followed, most of which concluded that Loughner was not so much a political extremist as a man suffering from "paranoid schizophrenia."

For many, the investigation will stop there. No need to explore personal motives, out-of-control grievances or distorted political anger. The mere mention of mental illness is explanation enough. This presumed link between psychiatric disorders and violence has become so entrenched in the public consciousness that the entire weight of the medical evidence is unable to shift it. Severe mental illness, on its own, is not an explanation for violence, but don't expect to hear that from the media in the coming weeks.

A 2009 analysis of nearly 20,000 individuals concluded that increased risk of violence was associated with drug and alcohol problems, regardless of whether the person had schizophrenia. Two similar analyses on bipolar patients showed, along similar lines, that the risk of violent crime is fractionally increased by the illness, while it goes up substantially among those who are dependent on intoxicating substances. In other words, it's likely that some of the people in your local bar are at greater risk of committing murder than your average person with mental illness."

Interesting article for the rest of it...

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/too-easy-to-blame-illness-for-shooting/1144808

@shrink Any thoughts on this?

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 12, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I accuse Sarge Greg of morbid, psyco-sexual, obsessive-compulsive, Sarah Palin fixation complex.

It is peculiar to partisan, Obama media operatives. It makes it's victims write compulsively about their love-hate object, Sarah Palin.

I coin the term, "Paliomaniacs" for this sad condition.

Maybe some sort of group therapy treatment is in order.

Posted by: battleground51 | January 12, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Sarah says that when they say "take up arms" they mean their vote. That is not the image I get from that phrase.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 12, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

battleground


handing these nuts off to you......

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Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

What I find ironic is how defensive and faux outraged the left is at the mere suggestion that their rhetoric is incendiary. Why not just take responsibility and cut out the vitriol?

Only one side took off with vitriolic, provocative, inflammatory rhetoric after this tragedy. That was the leftist pack of rabid wolves who have been trying to blame Palin and at a minimum accuse her of indifference to violence her rhetoric supposedly might cause.

And you've piled new waves of accusations on her for not humbly accepting your smears. Now you are suddenly outraged at the merest suggestion that your wild accusations reflect an indifference to consequences. I guess the shoe on the other foot pinches. Only difference is her charge is entirely justified.

This thing is blowing up in your faces.

Posted by: quarterback1 | January 12, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I predict Ms. Palin looking awfully small in comparison to the President today. I can see the dueling video clips on the Daily Show already.

Posted by: LincolnX | January 12, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Further to this point, I addressed this yesterday but I'll do it again because I'm sure it will be a recurring source of confusion. A murder can be a political assassination without it being a "partisan" act. We are so used to thinking of politics as Democrat vs. Republican that if we can't classify an event in that vein we say it was not "political." That is incorrect. The attempted assassination of a sitting U.S. Congressperson - regardless of party affiliation of either the assassin or the victim -- is a quintessentially political act. It is an attack on the United States government. And I would expect sensible Republicans to recognize that they could easily be the next victim of a fulminant anti-government ideology since all elected leaders -- Democratic, Republican or otherwise -- are representatives of the United States government.

Posted by: wbgonne | January 12, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Sarah is cute, charming, charismatic and a complete ditz. Miley Cyrus would make a better presidential candidate than Palin.

Posted by: MOinkslinger | January 12, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Sarah is not the victim here and to pretend otherwise is a hoax and a disgrace to the real victims.
Words and actions have consequences or at least they used to. If Sarah had decided to debate issues rather than use incendiary soundbites, she would not be issuing this pre-scripted statement.

Posted by: Judy_L | January 12, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

@shrink Any thoughts on this?

Sure, a few days ago I talked this over. Anyone who says untreated mental illness isn't a dangerous condition is a fool, or has a dog in the hunt. Huge studies, meta analysis in particular are favored by people who want to drown things they don't like in the sea of data.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 9:52 AM | Report abuse

This guy has a lot of gall to accuse Sarah Palin of a "phony framing of the issues." As if that isn't exactly what the WaPo and its fellow travelers have been doing since the Tucson shooting. If accusing someone of being complicit in murder without a shred of evidence isn't hate speech, what is?

Posted by: sherryds | January 12, 2011 9:52 AM | Report abuse

The Alcoa Brigade really fears Sarah Palin. If "It is all about her" it is because they make it all about hear. She is one of serveral conservatives singled out by name by talking heads as one who's rhetoric could be a root cause for this incident.

Posted by: GMnStoneRidge | January 12, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

RainForestRising, please, please give it up and move on. Surely, by now you have earned your trolling fee of $3.50 an hour.

You are rambling, which might not be a bad thing if you didn't sound foolish.

Posted by: Sammy2 | January 12, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Anyone wanna take a guess at who else employed the infamous anti-Semitic "blood libel"?

Google: hitler "blood libel"

http://www.google.com/search?client=ms-
rim&hl=en&q=hitler%20%22blood%20libel%22

Thank you Sarah Palin for injecting anti-Semitism into the debate over the causes for the assassination of a Jewish member of Congress.

Sarah, you may as well skip the video production next time and tweet your thanks to the killer. That's a little more your style.

I will be asking the ADL for a statement on Sarah Palin's insulting horrific comments.

I, for the record, am a Jewish white male and I am profoundly offended by Sarah Palin's disgusting overt anti-Semitism.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 12, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Anyone wanna take a guess at who else employed the infamous anti-Semitic "blood libel"?

Google: hitler "blood libel"

http://www.google.com/search?client=ms-
rim&hl=en&q=hitler%20%22blood%20libel%22

Thank you Sarah Palin for injecting anti-Semitism into the debate over the causes for the assassination of a Jewish member of Congress.

Sarah, you may as well skip the video production next time and tweet your thanks to the killer. That's a little more your style.

I will be asking the ADL for a statement on Sarah Palin's insulting horrific comments.

I, for the record, am a Jewish white male and I am profoundly offended by Sarah Palin's disgusting overt anti-Semitism.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 12, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Remember, Sarah Palin is the REAL victim here. It is her blood that was spilled in this "blood libel." This is far more consequential than the real blood spilled from the people who were just shot. After all, Sarah Palin has been OFFENDED!

In fact, not enough attention has been paid to Giffords' central role in the malicious, vicious slander of Sarah Palin. Who, again, is the real victim here.

How dare Giffords claim that surveyor's marks were crosshairs? How dare Giffords say it's bad political form, and downright dangerous, to tell lies about how your political opponents will bring your children in front of "death panels" to beg for their life, and then follow it up with promises to "reload" against the health care bill, and put your political opponents in gun sights? I don't see anything reckless about falsely accusing your political opponents of institutionalizing child murder, and then using violent imagery to oppose them!

How DARE Gabrielle Giffords so viciously victimize Sarah Palin?

I DEMAND AN APOLOGY FROM GABRIELLE GIFFORDS TO SARAH PALIN!

Posted by: theorajones1 | January 12, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

The Tucson massacre is the direct result of all the hundreds of violent protests by the Left threatening DEATH to Politicians. They have going on now for many years totally unchallenged by their Democrat leaders (Obama, Reid, Pelosi) and the leftwing media.

http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

Posted by: panola60 | January 12, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Hi y'all.

*1] How many of us agree that it would not violate the 2dA to regulate the possession of arms for minors, felons convicted of violent crimes, persons of such low intelligence as to require guardians, and persons certified as a danger to themselves or others by mental health professionals?*

I would guess almost all of us, and current laws generally reflect this view.

*2] How many of us, now that we have established that some regulation is almost universally acceptable, would think the 2dA shield did not, for example, permit us to purchase C4, or trade in fissile material?*

I would guess almost all of us, and current laws generally reflect this view.

3] Start from these outer limits. Remember we have a 2d
A. Know that for many of us think the idea of taking shotguns, rifles, and handguns away from law abiding competent adults is beyond wrong, and smacks of government too big for its britches.
*Thus I would suggest that gun prohibitions are off the table for a rational discussion.*

4] My own pet as a one time prosecutor, is universal registration of the arms with ballistic match, as a data base, *for crime solving, not crime prevention.* It would take thirty years, I think, for the database to build to a real investigative tool, but it would be worth starting sometime, IMHO.

I hope someone responds, because I love this topic and its nuances, when it is discussed without panic or hyperbole. I'll ck in later.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 12, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

@battleground: "I accuse Sarge Greg of morbid, psyco-sexual, obsessive-compulsive, Sarah Palin fixation complex."

Oh, come on. That's Andrew Sullivan, and we all know it. When Greg Sargent starts posting how he dreamed last night that he was lost in Sarah Palin's scary secret garden and could not find his way out, then we'll talk.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | January 12, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Here we go, don't blame me game even though all I've called the President was Terrorist, dead camps, and of course use gun sites to TARGET the left.

The garbage that's come out of her mouth and others right wing is a disgrace and 9 people are DEAD, a child is DEAD.

Sure the guys nuts, but hearing this crap day in and day out for two years makes even some sane people talk crazy if you read posts on these pages. They speak outright lies all spoken by her, Rush, Glen, and the rest. Incendiary talk day in and out, and no one ever held them accountable, but they FCC went after Howard Stern.

They say what people want to believe is true that reinforces it. Those is dangerous and if anyone would look at how the right has used this vile speak from their own mouths, it is on their side and their watch from their mouths.

This is an abuse of free speech and they need to be held accountable not encouraged as they are on FOX. Of course now the best defense is the offense of being picked on unfairly give me a break, take their own words, it from them and them alone.

I’m just surprised this happened not sooner. Their sickening, as a humans irresponsible and in it for the money at the cost of others, they all should be sued for slander.

Their for America? NO their un-American with behavior that should never have been allowed, if not for 24/7 news they be a blip on the map. They been created and marketed, The three are old washed up DJ’s that found a nitch that made them RICH.

Palin, Angler, and all the rest take responsibility for your actions Christ Sake, that’s a conservative value isn’t it?

Posted by: pjaud | January 12, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse

lms:

"She has a weird way of becoming the victim in every situation."

It is indeed weird how her political opponents seem to attack her regardless of the situation. This, of course, being the perfect case in point. A schizophrenic nutter shoots a bunch of people, and within less than 24 hours there are headlines like "Rep. Gabriel Giffords' blood is on Palin's hands".

The left's obsession with Palin is weird indeed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html

Posted by: ScottC3 | January 12, 2011 10:05 AM | Report abuse

If the only point you are making is that it was a political killing by definition, sure. Every time someone tries to kill a politician it is an assassination attempt. But then I think a meaningful distinction is lost, hopefully not for political reasons. Assassination is as old as politics. When an exile the Russians don't like dies of radiation poisoning, now that is an assassination. In 1170 the Archbishop of Canterbury was murdered in his cathedral, that counts.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 10:05 AM | Report abuse

RainForestRising, surely you have earned your quota for trolling and have earned your $3.50 per hour troll fee. Time to move on to other sites, using your many IDs.

Trolling might not be such a bad thing if the troller did not make foolish comments.
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As an aside, can someone explain how one receives a "comment submission error" for making too many comments when one rarely makes comments on this site and one has not make a commen here in at least 6 months? Is one missing something here?

Posted by: Sammy2 | January 12, 2011 10:06 AM | Report abuse

@markinaustin: "My own pet as a one time prosecutor, is universal registration of the arms with ballistic match, as a data base, *for crime solving, not crime prevention.* It would take thirty years, I think, for the database to build to a real investigative tool, but it would be worth starting sometime, IMHO"

Agreed. At least, a basic, universal weapons registration database. It just makes sense. I have no trouble with ballistic matching of every weapon but, as you say, it would take a while for that to be generally beneficial and the costs would have to be borne by either gun makers/distributors or the tax payer.

That being said, further limitations on gun ownership for average citizens --limits to 6 clip magazines, a licensing process for gun ownership that would involve a real background check that would help prevent the mentally ill from acquiring weapons (at least, easily), etc. Security professionals, and other folks so licensed (maybe bounty hunters?) should be eligible for a different level of weapon than Joe Public.

And married couples should be reminded about statistics that would indicate that the most likely victim of that gun in the closet is one of them. ;)

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | January 12, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse


"Don't we call Hinkley's shooting of Reagan an assassination attempt, even thought it was his mental illness (and the ethereal beauty of Jodie Foster) that drove him to do what he did?"

I think we do so incorrectly. I bring this up is because language interests me and in this particular case, calling it an assassination plays into the calls for toning down the rhetoric. What happened to Reagan and Giffords is not the same as what happened to MLK and RFK. Just because the person is a public official does not automatically make it an assassination.

If I'm an editor and my headline writer comes to me with "assassination" I ask "what's the motive?" and "Well, there was this incident a few years back and she's a member of congress" doesn't cut it. but I'll drop it because this is a political forum and not a media criticism one.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 12, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse

@theorajones

Great post at 9:58

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 12, 2011 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Script for leftist blood libel campaign:

Libs: this mass murder is all your fault, Sarah Palin. Your irresponsible hate speech had consequences -- these murders. You irresponsibly and intentionally incited all this hate. Your map marked Gabby Giffords for assassination!

SP: Those accusations are false and irresponsible. You are wrong to politicize this.

You liberals are beyond absurd..

Libs: oh so now you want to make this tragedy all about you!

Posted by: quarterback1 | January 12, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"...But I think intellectually, she seems not to be able to understand what's going on here." - Rayburn

Yes, we should give her a pass because she is not able to grasp the consequences of her contribution to the dangerous environment she has helped to create.

The Republican spin...blame the victim.

The arsenal of the right wing defense: All of those enemies who identify our revolutionary warriors as are the target of their blazing attacks should stop aiming at them as the originator of the battle that has been separating the patriots from the traitors. They are trying to make us look like the aggressors when it is really their fault the country is so divided.

Posted by: 192011 | January 12, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama will make an inclusive speech and be castigated by the usual suspects. Palin casts herself as THE VICTIM in this whole affair. She'll do nicely as a political provocateur, but she's done as a politician.

This is hardly some kind of liberal obsession. I heard a few bits about the vid this morning. A couple of guys on C-SPAN were chatting (one left and one right). C-SPAN rigorously balances out its guests (Mike Pence then Tavis Smiley followed). It also got highlighted on WTOP (news traffic & weather station, not talk radio). Page hits spike at the mention of The Sarah.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 12, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Script for leftist blood libel campaign:

Libs: this mass murder is all your fault, Sarah Palin. Your irresponsible hate speech had consequences -- these murders. You irresponsibly and intentionally incited all this hate. Your map marked Gabby Giffords for assassination!

SP: Those accusations are false and irresponsible. You are wrong to politicize this.

Libs: oh so now you want to make this tragedy all about you!

Posted by: quarterback1 | January 12, 2011 10:11 AM | Report abuse

What I don't get is what's up with Palin's advisers. I mean, she doesn't seem too smart, but she has enough money to buy good advisers. And I would think they would of stopped her from saying this. Then again maybe they also know she has no chance at the presidency, so the goal is elsewhere.

Posted by: michiganmaine | January 12, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

[Ethan2010 drooled: "Thank you Sarah Palin for injecting anti-Semitism into the debate over the causes for the assassination of a Jewish member of Congress."]

Cluebat to moron: The shooter's mother is Jewish. And Leftists injected anti-Semitism into the debate by obsessing about the loony Leftist shooter's fixation with Mein Kampf. Own him, Ethan.

Professor Reynolds (accurately) described this orchestrated Leftist smear campaign against Mrs. Palin as "blood libel."

There's a very good reason the term "blood libel" was applied in such situations, and that's because of the common meanings of "blood" and "libel."

I see very little distinction between accusing Jews of killing children and accusing Sarah Palin of prompting a mass murder, except the difference between a principal and an accomplice. (And keep in mind the law punishes the accomplice-before-the-fact the same as the principal.) These are both horrific examples of defamation.

For what it's worth, the phrase "blood libel" has been used more recently, and fairly commonly, to describe suggestions that gays might be more likely to molest, or recruit, children.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/10/paladinos-rants.html

There are other examples.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1010/12/joy.01.html

Try harder to take a little responsibility for this Leftists smear campaign and adding smear on smear by implying anti-Semitism where there isn't any.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

@qb-

You are staring to worry me. I think you were posting here on Saturday, so, please tell me again how "only one side took off with...rhetoric" when this happened. Clearly false. You know better than that.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | January 12, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin playing the victim? Wow, never thought I'd see that. What's amazing is that her followers still think it's true.

Posted by: sarahabc | January 12, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

VICTIM. It's what she does best. Somebody is always out to get her, distort her meaning, misunderstand her code (blood libel?). We had to live for eight years as the world's victims, - "they hate us for our freedoms" - and we're about to be treated to another 2 years of House-Victim Madness. Rep Giffords is the real victim of a gun crime carried out by a random crazy person who legally bought a weapon and over-sized magazine, who surely did not live isolated in the rain-forest, or cut off from TV and the internet. Sarah Palin is the person who put gun sights on a woman who really did face "second-amendment remedies". This may all have as much to do with "Right Wing Rhetoric" as Iraq had to do with attacking the WTC on 9/11. And we know how right wing president was able to connect those dots.

Posted by: bcinaz | January 12, 2011 10:15 AM | Report abuse

@Sammy2: "As an aside, can someone explain how one receives a 'comment submission error' for making too many comments when one rarely makes comments on this site and one has not make a commen here in at least 6 months? Is one missing something here?"

It thinks you have tried to submit a comment (the same or different) in under 60 seconds. Basically, the system believes you cut-pasted-posted and then did it again, and it's attempting to prevent that. Just way a minute and submit again, and you'll be fine.

If you find certain commenters tedious, may I recommend the WaPo Troll Hunter? Works with Firefox (and the Greasemonkey add on), as a User Script in Google Chrome, and in Safari, if you install SIMBL and Greasekit.

It allows you to block commentors you don't like, makes URLs clickable, moves the name to the top of the post (and hilites it) and offers a few formatting features.

Doesn't currently work in Opera, but if there's a demand, I'll get it working in Opera, too.

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/89140

Don't you want ––strike through––?

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | January 12, 2011 10:16 AM | Report abuse

@mm

"And I would think they would of stopped her from saying this."

Maybe she hired Christine O'Donnell's PR crew.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Poor, poor, poor Sarah. Brings to mind one of my favorite lines from a movie:

"You know what I'm going to get you next Christmas, Mom? A big wooden cross, so that every time you feel unappreciated for your sacrifices, you can climb on up and nail yourself to it."

Posted by: schrodingerscat | January 12, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

It's sad that the liberal media felt that they had to manufacture a connection between Palin and the shooter. It's mean and unthinking, if you actually pause to consider it.

For hatred, they need only look within.

If you want someone to blame, look to the person who perpetuated this particular lie, Keith Olbermann.

There is plenty of negative rhetoric out there. It's sad that the liberal media came out in force to co-opt this tragedy for political gain.


Posted by: postfan1 | January 12, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

obtuse my young friend!!!! waste of ink to the page....sadly my grandson in high school has more insight. your gross bias nullifies what little journalistic acumen you might possess. fairly thought this is the opinion section and like the old saying like a..holes everyone has an opinion, even me! i love watching the left and right political hacks run from the little ole housewife from alaska....your article is another testimony to how much you fear such a populist. we will use your story as another teaching tool on biased, opinionated writing...keep em coming!!

Posted by: farkel51 | January 12, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

the more we learn about the young man accused of this horrific tragedy, the more we can temper our judgment; however, for me, the larger question for our country which includes the state of arizona, is what did we think when we first heard about this tragedy?

for many of us who have had to endure the last two years of mostly right-wing/tea party/gop rhetoric calling this president and democrats who supported him, along with fox news pundits, limbaugh, palin, bachmann and others with their gun-filled, hatred and violent imagery, it was not a hard leap to think that which we have feared had come true.

as we have all unfortunately become all to aware the last years since 2001, terrorism works by instilling fear. fear to speak out, fear of one's own personal safety, fear of one's government. from in-your-face confrontation at town hall meetings, to phone threats and objects thrown through legislator's offices; acts of terrorism have been about instilling fear here in our country. vote for this or that, and we will "target" you, if we do not get our way we will take up "second amendment remedies," be "armed and dangerous" if this bill passes.

so we come full circle to this sad tragedy where a beautiful, innocent, young child, along with a federal court judge, a republican grandmother, a pastor saving the life of is wife, a congressional aide,and other innocent citizens who loved their country enough to come talk with their democratically and constitutionally elected representative were killed.

so again, perhaps it is more important to ask ourselves, what did we think when we first heard about this tragedy that says more about our country today.

Posted by: sbvpav | January 12, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

In Sarah Palin's world, everything is about Sarah Palin. Given a chance to offer healing words to help bring people together and to offer comfort to the bereaved, she opts instead- as she always does- to bring the focus of her comments onto herself and to attack those she feels responsible. This is the ultimate narcissist. Adding to this is the entirely inappropriate use of the term "blood libel," whose history lies in the development of anti-Semitism, to defend herself while the person who actually suffered here was a Jewish woman. Finally, the real people to be hurt here do not include Sarah Palin; they include the people who simply went to hear their congressperson speak and who were shot- and in a number of cases killed- by a lunatic with a Glock. This is not about Sarah Palin, but she has injected herself into the news. Again.

Posted by: danalawrence | January 12, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

@mark_in_austin-

I'll weigh in. I like concept four very much. I see where you are going with concept three but I'll go with the gov't has every right and duty to *regulate* what kinds of arms are available to "competent adults". Not saying take them all away, just restrict ownership to certain kinds. The answer is usually somewhere in the middle.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | January 12, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

So where exactly does Palin go to get an apology for the attempted hatchet job on her that was perpetrated by the MSM this week?

Posted by: packard1 | January 12, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Liberal pundits and the MSM basically accuse Sarah Palin of transmitting mind control messages to this guy's tinfoil hat without any concrete evidence and she gets mad and fights back.

Why is that surprising? The left is being highly provocative here. And they deserve any pushback they get.

Posted by: sold2u | January 12, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

So now we're going to get pre-recorded tapes shipped out from Sarah's hidden cave. Who knew she could one-up Bin Laden?

Posted by: Keesvan | January 12, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I tried reading all of the comments, but started to feel sick. WTF is wrong with you people? Have you taken leave of your senses? Lost your humanity? Those that claim to be "Christian", are you proud the crap that you spew? Do you think about what you are typing? Is for attention or do you really have that much hate in your hearts? Because if you do, you need help.

Posted by: ljo211 | January 12, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

moron is always moron.
this brainless nasty woman will never get it.

why should we care what did she say?
she is just dead politically.
Move on, people, to all good you can do.

Posted by: lordmi | January 12, 2011 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't there have to be some tiny bit of evidence that the shooter actually saw the cross hairs map or listened to any of the rhetoric for your case to made sense .. isn't that an inocnvenient truth???

Posted by: sarno | January 12, 2011 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Rhetoric designed to cause people to despise those whom you oppose is Palin’s stock in trade. By itself, this is common and acceptable. Frankly, she is good at it.

Unfortunately, she does not stop there. She chooses to add allusions to violence and joins her rhetoric with Angle’s call for Second Amendment Remedies and the Tea Party’s “if ballots won’t do it, bullets will” rhetoric. The result is effectively a call to arms. These people are inciting violence, whether or not that is their primary goal.

Posted by: Provincial | January 12, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Chuck, no it's clealy true. And you know better. It's black and white. Only people who just spent four days blaming Sarah Palin for murders she had nothing to do with and who are now mocking her for drawing attention to herself by responding would not recognize that.

Posted by: quarterback1 | January 12, 2011 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Stop giving this dummy Sarah Palin press. She's an idiot with no morals what so ever. She will not be elected in 2012 so what's the point? She's stupid and most of all a dummy. Please I repeat Please stop giving this dummy press. Obama 2012.

Posted by: gjricks | January 12, 2011 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Would Rep. Giffords also condemn Paul Krugman and the professional Left for tying their political enemies to a murder with absolutely no evidence.

Yes.

As any sane and decent person would.

The shooter lived in his own world, connecting imaginary dots, detached from facts.

Same for the Left and their shameless libel and exploitation of a mass murder.

Posted by: drjcarlucci | January 12, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Today's Republicans, including Sarah Palin, are cut from the same cloth as Richard Nixon. Republicans have become better at covering up their dirty tricks. Sarah was named by the St. Pete Times in Florida as the LIAR of the YEAR for her statement about DEATH PANELS in ObamaCare. The noses of the Republicans just keep growing longer everyday, just like Pinnochio. Republicans are self-indulgent, greedy people, who seek power and fortune. Palin sold out Alaska and went ROGUE to make her millions of dollars. She is NOT to be trusted. She is constantly lying. She also said in Florida that "off shore oil drilling is safe and environmentally friendly," evidendly to get campaign contributions from Big Oil. These Greedy Republicans will even murder people to obtain their greedy goals. Republicans are beind the assassinations of Liberals John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr., and now Giffords.

Posted by: jerzeyjim21 | January 12, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

This woman's conceit knows no bounds. She poses in front of a flag and ends with God Bless America. Sarah- you are not an elected official but rather nothing but a political pundit and reality show participant. Your little speech is nothing but an effort to grab headlines which deeply offends me on this national day of mourning.

Posted by: Hope9 | January 12, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

So basically finger pointing is okay as long as it is not at Sarah Palin. Genius logic.

Posted by: eliasbwick | January 12, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Palin - what a t*rd

Posted by: 44fx2901 | January 12, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Obama's Leftist "progressives" spent the last decade on CNN committing acts of criminal mayhem during their kristalnaght-style, anti-Semitic gutter riots (masquerading as "peace" protests) in support of Islamo-supremacism to achieve their hate-America political agenda. http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame

Yet Leftists now have the temerity to climb up on their hind legs (without a shred of evidence) and howl about (alleged) "violent rhetoric" from Mrs. Palin?

This shooter was one of your own. Own him.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

The shooter was schooled at a neo-Weatherman indoctrination camp.

The gunman attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a Leftist group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama.

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Read more: Bill Ayers' communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=249429#ixzz1AlWX33Gl

He's all yours, Leftists. Own him.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"Blood libel"???

Does she, or her camp, even know what the term means?

I wasn't aware Palin had endured a few thousand years of persecution.

Posted by: spynnal | January 12, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"and who are now mocking her for drawing attention to herself by responding"

No one is mocking her for responding. We are mocking her for the manner in which she is responding.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | January 12, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

THE NATION DESERVES A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF OBAMA.


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Posted by: RainForestRising
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LOL! Gee, what happened to "37th and O"? The drivel never changes, huh?

Posted by: LABC | January 12, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Is it any wonder it took Palin six years to graduate college?
Palin has Giffords on a hit list. Giffords is the center of an assassination plot. Palin does not understand why the media is jumping on her about having a hit list with Giffords name on it. Palin states she is the focus of a blood libel. Giffords is Jewish. Can anyone with half a brain see why Palin has no brain?

Sarah Palin, America's Biggest Loser!

Posted by: fishman2 | January 12, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin "responsible"? Well, what if the perp says she is? Would we even believe him? He's crazy, right?

There is a culture of demonizing Democrats and liberals out there that is far beyond rational discourse. I'm saddened that those on the Right won't admit to it. Its not like I'm accusing *all* Conservatives with demonizing. How hard can it be to say that this is going on? Its self-evident.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | January 12, 2011 10:35 AM | Report abuse

You waited too long to respond Mrs. Palin. The American people need to hear from their elected President - whether they agree with him or not - and this moment belongs to him. Please be humble and express your views some other time.

Posted by: voice02 | January 12, 2011 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Of course Sarah Palin is not at fault. This self righteous woman, who routinely libels others, should not be subjected to it herself.

Posted by: burnedout | January 12, 2011 10:37 AM | Report abuse

@Scott I followed your link to the N.Y. Daily News to Micheal Daly's article.

Lets begin the day in agreement Scott. That piece was horrible, unjustified, inaccurate and you on the right have reason to be very, very angry about it. I really do understand.
I could say it was the Daily News not the Times...the News isn't exactly respected journalistically...however I don't wish to dilute my agreement with your basic point.
And so Scott we can say Michael Daly is a (you fill in your favorite perjoratives)

I also agree with you Scott that there have been plenty of opportunists in this tragedy,sadly is this not always the case?
I think this is one place we don't even have to argue about false equivalency because indeed BOTH sides do it. But Scott I think that is more concentrated in the professions that benefit..media (this makes Micheal Daly a pandering scum for that Daily News article) and the politicians. And so I don't wish to say Pawlenty was obviously scoring points against Palin just to have our "equivalency judge" Q.B. fire back well Clyburn was talking about the shooter and 2nd Amendment solutions. So rather than go tit for tat let's forget the bad actors who are motivated by money and power and look instead at the rest of the populace.

I think at the grassroots the yelling from the left has not been for political gain but rather the result of a building anger.
Tpartiers do not have a monopoly on anger!

Of course we are not happy about having our arses kicked in the last election anymore than your side was in '08. But we are angry that half of this country did NOT accept what happened at the ballot box.
They instead responded with lies and distortions about policy..."death panels" "killing granny" "socialism" "Gov't takeover" but worst of all they came armed with signs about watering the tree of liberty with blood...yadda yadda...basically they NEVER accepted elections have consequences and yes those of us on the left are angry about that.

Imagine Scott if Palin got elected in 2012 and my side marched enmasse,in protests organized and promoted heavily and covered heavily on MSNBC and we carried signs that said...Sarah...we came unarmed...this time.
Or Sarah is a sl*t. Todd is a p*mp. Then what if Dem politicians started adding some fuel in 2014 campaigns by saying 2nd Amendment solutions...if it doesn't work at the ballot box we can't rule out bullets...you get where I'm heading with this Scott...

And you know I respect your intellect even though we are probably 180 degrees apart politically...so from YOUR side Scott...do you see any way out of this or do you believe waving guns at rallies is appropriate? Because I gotta be honest Scott. I get really, really angry when someone threatens me or my elected representatives...I have to use all my intellect and willpower to restrain myself from threatening them back with my own gun.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 12, 2011 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin needs a lot of attention, and bad attention is okay to her too. She is money hungry as well as of need of attention. Hopefully voters will start to notice that these are not qualities of someone that should be in an elected office. She needs to get back to Alaska before she causes any more controversy.

Posted by: alowens1 | January 12, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

You have some serious balls taking anyone to task speaking from a prepared script when the President himself considers a teleprompter more integral than the secret service.

Next, you describe this message from Sara Palin as a 'make or break moment'? Really? Where have you been for the last few years. Here's a newsflash for you, she's already made it merely by you and your other hack, blogger colleagues at the leftist rag that is the WaPo attacking her on a daily basis out of the utter fear and terror you're stricken with by any conservative that possesses as much star-power as she does.

That said, I am not even what you'd call a Sara Palin fan but it pleases me to no end when close-minded liberals squirm in their seats when the majority (I repeat, MAJORITY) of Americans share some if not most of her conservative ideals.

Are you so without talent that you completely ignore the loser that decided to go on a shooting spree in favor of opting for yet another pathetic attempt to besmirch the efforts of Palin's campaign to identify areas of the country where liberalism has run amok?

Oh yeah.....YES!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 12, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

[spynnal whined: "Does she, or her camp, even know what the term means?"]

Professor Reynolds (accurately) described this orchestrated Leftist smear campaign against Mrs. Palin as "blood libel."

There's a very good reason the term "blood libel" was applied in such situations, and that's because of the common meanings of "blood" and "libel."

I see very little distinction between accusing Jews of killing children and accusing Sarah Palin of prompting a mass murder, except the difference between a principal and an accomplice. (And keep in mind the law punishes the accomplice-before-the-fact the same as the principal.) These are both horrific examples of defamation.

For what it's worth, the phrase "blood libel" has been used more recently, and fairly commonly, to describe suggestions that gays might be more likely to molest, or recruit, children.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/10/paladinos-rants.html

There are other examples.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1010/12/joy.01.html

Try harder to take a little responsibility for this Leftists smear campaign, Palin-haters.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Is this a Saturday Night Live skit? Who is this idiot?

"mmmmm our exceptional country..."

Yeah, exceptional IN SPITE OF YOU, you demoness. I don't ask God for much, but I pray that he deprives this woman of her celebrity and status as a media darling. For the good of our exceptional country.

Posted by: ExConservative | January 12, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

As soon as the "change of life" really starts to show on her, her loyal teabaggers will mysteriously & quickly forget about her.

Posted by: Jihm | January 12, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Leftists are now openly calling for Palin's assassination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxgJKNpjSNI&feature=player_embedded#!

Death threats: how progressive!

Can Leftists imagine Giffords effigy hung from a noose?
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/27/can-you-imagine-if-an-obama-effigy-were-hung-from-a-noose/

Own the Leftist violent rhetoric and vitriol.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

"... accuses them of expressing concern and outrage about the shooting in bad faith, as if they are doing so in an effort to do nothing more than damage her politically"

That's what it looks like to me.

"Oh happy day, a tragedy, let's blame it on Sarah!"

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Posted by: ZZim | January 12, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Both Palin and Angle directly incited violence with their hatred-filled rhetoric and now that seven people have paid the ultimate price and one lies fighting for her life, they both seek to disown their words and actions. Reprehensible? You bet, Palin and Angle. You bet.

Posted by: Byrd3 | January 12, 2011 10:41 AM | Report abuse

It's Sarah Headroom! Only appears as a head in a TV set.

She is such a cowardly hypocrite, it's almost funny.

And she would probably change places with Giffords, who is everything she is not, in a heartbeat now that Giffords is expected to recover, if she could get that kind of love, sympathy and good publicity.

Posted by: solsticebelle | January 12, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Based on the Washington Post's commentators perceptions and comments on Palin as well as pretty much the whole Deomocratic leadership, they will be hard press to use the word "target" or even to identify individuals or seats to focus on.

The WP and Democrats that have jumped on this have shown how sleazy and childish they can be in order to try to score political points. It is pathetic and the childishness isn't loss on the sensible people of this country.

Posted by: asdf9876 | January 12, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Kaddifficrazy, I googled "woman hatches child" and your picture came up and do you know who was pictured next to your mom? Goebbels! I am shocked! And apparently you also hold the genetic key to recreating Hitler. it is all here: www.crazyposters/backgroundcheck.com

Posted by: LABC | January 12, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Why don't you knock it off you jerk. You liberals just hate Sarah Palin and you will attack her and her family continually and relentlessly. The woman had nothing to do with this madman's actions. Capisce stupid? Shouldn't you be concentrating your writings on what can be done to bring this country together rather than deamonizing people whose politics you don't agree with. Suppose I called your mother a fuc_ing wh_re would you like it?

Posted by: lori9 | January 12, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

@qb-

Well, I'm sorry you are lumping me in with the "Palin-is-responsible" group because I never commented that I agreed with that. Certainly there have been many who have/do even today.

My initial response to your post today was in regards to this quote of yours, "Only one side took off with vitriolic, provocative, inflammatory rhetoric after this tragedy." It is patently false to accuse only one side with rhetoric such as you describe. Maybe your troll-hunter is turned on and you didn't see it.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | January 12, 2011 10:44 AM | Report abuse

What's ridiculous to me is not Palin's defense (that was easy to predict), it's that people actually believe she can be "statesmanlike". What a joke! This is a moron of a woman. An ex-beauty queen. A caricature. She's no politician. She's no leader. She's a television personality. Stop acting like the world revolves around what Sarah Palin thinks and says. That's why Americans are so angry. They see these idiots propped up as leaders, and the media eats it up like lapdogs. Get a life! Read the polls. The only people in the country who take Palin seriously are a few fringe conservatives and the media.

Sarah Palin is NOBODY! I could care less what she says, what she thinks and where she goes. She will NEVER hold elective national office. She's a Fox commentator, no more, no less.

Posted by: sachancp | January 12, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Why don't you knock it off you jerk. You liberals just hate Sarah Palin and you will attack her and her family continually and relentlessly. The woman had nothing to do with this madman's actions. Capisce stupid? Shouldn't you be concentrating your writings on what can be done to bring this country together rather than deamonizing people whose politics you don't agree with. Are you mature enough to do that?

Posted by: lori9 | January 12, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

So, I guess the actual victim of a shooting, Congresswoman Giffords, is guilty of a "blood libel" in Palin's demented imagination for suggesting that perhaps Palin's use of sniper imagery in a "political" ad might in some way be connected to the climate of tolerance and glorification for political violence that led to the Congresswoman's grievous wounding last Saturday. The mind continues to reel at the depravity of the right.

Posted by: TedFrier | January 12, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I see Greg and the rest of the corrupt media are still trying to keep their lie going. Still trying to accuse an innocent woman of being an accomplice to a brutal multiple homicide. The true sign of a compulsive liar is to keep it going in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Pathetic. Not a Palin fan but it's good to see here stick up for herself and shove it back in these liberal dirtbags faces.

Posted by: peterg73 | January 12, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

So now we're going to get pre-recorded tapes shipped out from Sarah's hidden cave. Who knew she could one-up Bin Laden?

Posted by: Keesvan | January 12, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

That was some funny snark!!! Mama Grizzley is too inarticulate and far too cowardly (aren't all bullies?) to ever hold an open press conference.

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 12, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

You are mocking for both. And mocking her for "how" is just as crazy. You spent four days mau mauing her as having g the blood on her hands and now mock her for playing victim.

You are all really quite insane. And no shrink I am not offering a clinical diagnosis but am pointing out that these liberals thought patterns are deeply irrational, disordered and obsessive. The left's behavior is beyond appalling.

Posted by: quarterback1 | January 12, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

So, I guess the actual victim of a shooting, Congresswoman Giffords, is guilty of a "blood libel" in Palin's demented imagination for suggesting that perhaps Palin's use of sniper imagery in a "political" ad might in some way be connected to the climate of tolerance and glorification for political violence that led to the Congresswoman's grievous wounding last Saturday. The mind continues to reel at the depravity of the right.

Posted by: TedFrier | January 12, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

"Second, her core accusation on the video, the one that was clearly selected with an intent to drive headlines, not only accuses critics of "blood libel," but actually accuses them of expressing concern and outrage about the shooting in bad faith, as if they are doing so in an effort to do nothing more than damage her politically:"

Yes, if you attempt to seize on the actions of a barely coherent madman and use these to demonize a politician you despise, then you may indeed be accused of "bad faith". However, given your recent embarrassingly bad attempt at a take down of George Will and defense of Howard Dean, a different explanation is in order: stupidity. In the article in question, you actually included quotations confirming Will's contention re: Dean's accusation of Tea Party racism, and seemed oblivious to this fact. You may well not be bright enough for "bad faith".

Posted by: jbrenner1 | January 12, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"Greg, You have some serious balls..."

(sotto voce) Greg, don't let this go to your head, it was supposed to be an insult.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 12, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

The media has kept this ignorant woman in the spot light when she and her tea party should have been given little coverage because of their lack of informed views and their intolerance for the views of others. Instead the media tried to legitimize the views of this ignorant woman whose own campaign heads determined was totally uninformed and ignorant of world and American history and simple civics. She is a disgrace to any supposed Democracy but the real disgrace is the media who have legitimized her reactionary views of hate and lies. It is disgusting to live in this country.

What about my first amendent rights when I go to political meetings and have to sit there with cretins toting guns????

Only right wingers have first amendment rights in this countryt-the vile evil people whose solution for everything is hate and hurting this group or that.

Sarah Palin- crawl back into the wood work like the cock roach you are!!!

Posted by: Barbi520 | January 12, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse

scott and qb

Sarah Palin made herself part of Gabby Giffords story last March. Myself and many other liberals have stated numerous times we don't believe SP is directly responsible for the actions of a lone, apparently mentally ill gunman. However, the intended target was a Congresswoman so there is a political context to the story and political speech is part of the overall context.

I am not responsible for other libera'ls words or headlines just as your are not personally responsible for some of the worst conservative headlines and commentary. In a free society we are all entitled to our opinion, including SP of course.

As for SP painting herself as the victim of a "blood libel" here I found her choice of words remarkable considering the situation but it's her right to feel she's entitled to that kind of comparison. Likewise, it's my right to find her victimhood ludicrous under the circumstances.

I respect SP for her stubbornness, it can be a necessary trait in today's world of politics. I do not respect her choice of words underlining her right to free speech while at the same time wanting her critics to feel sorry for her for exercising it and being criticized for her the words she chose.

Posted by: lmsinca | January 12, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Get over the blood libel stuff. Anyone have proff she is anti-Semitic? I haven't read it. I'm open to any *real* proof, otherwise, leave it be.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | January 12, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Liberals have simply gone completely unhinged.

There is really no other, more accurate way to describe it.

How very, very sad your lives must be.

Made all the worse when you look at this woman you irrationally hate and see how truly happy her life is.

Sucks to be you.

Posted by: etpietro | January 12, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives are big on personal responsibility until, of course, it applies to them.

A responsible person at this point would say, "This shooting has made us realise that our recent rhetoric, though apparently not the cause of this tragedy, makes this kind of violence more likely. That's not the America we want, and accordingly we will stop it and call on all other Americans to do likewise. Thank you"

Posted by: krickey7 | January 12, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

THE COUNTRY IS SICK OF THE LIBERALS AND THEIR GARBAGE.

Get it?


Because I don't think you get it. I think you believe you can be nasty to people and discourage them from expressing their views.


You are the nasty one - you and the liberals are the ones who are leaving.
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Posted by: RainForestRising

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I wonder if you see the irony in your last sentence...and just a little hint here so no one accuses you of having the same issues as Loughner, you do not speak for anyone but yourself. You do not speak for Americans.

Posted by: arancia12 | January 12, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Way to go libs you have successfully alienated the vast majority of Americans. Driving them ever further right because they can't stand your vile hypocrisy and blatant lies anymore.

Sarah Palin will probably never be President or VP. But someday you may wish she was...

Posted by: Straightline | January 12, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I haven't heard one person on the Right ask the Talk Radio jocks and Palin to tone down their rhetoric. Everytime I turn the dial to either Limbaugh, Hannity or Levin they are railing against Obama and liberals. What happened at the Town Hall meetings in 2009 was scary and disgraceful. I attended a Town Hall meeting in VA and the shouting and screaming from the opponents of the Health care reform bill when I stood in line to get in and during the speeches by my Congressman and guest speakers was unacceptable. Randall Terry had to be escorted out of the meeting because he was the loudest of all. The reactions from the Left and others to the shootings in Arizona has been a long time coming.

Posted by: cile92 | January 12, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Most of the time I don't agree with Sarah Paling, but I don't despise her, nor do I hate her or vilify her, but I simply abhorr the way the left media and punditry have taken hold of her like lyches, like a parasitic plague, and not content with atacking the woman, they have also engaged with her children in the most vile way, and no, she has not put her children forward more than the Obamas have done with theirs. And for once I agree with her, in their haste to blame her for the tragedy in Tucson they, the left leaning media and politicians have bared themselves for all to see, they are the ones creating and fomenting the toxic environment, lets place responsibility where it is due.

Posted by: hoffmannrojas | January 12, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

It is really appalling that Sarah Palin would use the term "blood libel," in relation to herself. This is the term used to describe the false claim by Christians in Europe that Jews kidnapped Christian children to use their blood in rituals. This "blood libel" led to pogroms and other persecution of Jews over the course of centuries. Could she really be claiming that the -- in my opinion -- justified criticism of her electoral map with cross-hairs over the names of candidates rises to the level of what happened to European Jews? With the right wing and the Tea Partiers refusing to acknowledge any responsibility for the climate of hate and violence permeating our political life, it is not likely that Palin will be apologizing anytime soon for her callous attempt to link herself to the historic persecution of the Jews. I am assuming, of course, that she actually knows the historical basis of "blood libel" in the first place.

Posted by: maryann11 | January 12, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

rukidding7, don't believe everything you read at Huffington Post. TLC states that they didn't "cancel" anything as it was only intended to be an eight part series to begin with. You are aware that it gained the highest-ever debut ratings for TLC, right?

Kevin_Willis, you know as well as I that she was not advocating a return to dueling.

wbgonne, just remember you promised to not vote for Obama again.

Byrd3, thank you for another example of the "blood libel" (even as a public figure, she could sue you for legal libel as well).

suekzoo1, now you stand corrected.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

You liberals just can't let a crisis go to waste, can you? Spinning this tragedy into a political gain for the left is distasteful and immoral. No one has yet to produce one shred of evidence that this maniac was a conservative, a liberal, or that he ever even watched the news. Yet everytime I pick up the newspaper I have to read about how this is Sarah Palin's or Rupert Murdock's fault. Have you no shame? You folks on the left will do anything to squash and silence your opposition. You wish to silence conservative talk radio. You wish to destroy fox news. You wish to destroy the Tea Party. You do so at your own peril. 40% of this nation identifies itself as conservative. Mess with the right to free speech and you will see discord to the likes of which we have not seen in over 100 years.

Posted by: Howsthathopeandchangeworkingforyou | January 12, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Might help if Sarah knew what blood libel means. I guess she can always refudiate later!

Posted by: knutton | January 12, 2011 10:59 AM | Report abuse

If you've done nothing wrong, why take down the cross-hairs from you website within hours after the shooting occurred?

Palin has put on her tried-and-true tactic of blaming everyone else for something (everything, really) instead of admitting her role, even if small and tangential. Like and old t-shirt, this tactic is getting worn pretty thin.

Posted by: tomguy1 | January 12, 2011 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I just hope that President Obama remembers to include Palin in the list of victims during his speech today.

Posted by: schrodingerscat | January 12, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

'...pre-taped video message...'
let's see - haven't we seen this before? who else uses this approach?
oh yeah, right - terrorists wrote the book.

Posted by: lawrence2xl | January 12, 2011 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Why don't you knock it off you jerk. You liberals just hate Sarah Palin and you will attack her and her family continually and relentlessly. The woman had nothing to do with this madman's actions. Capisce stupid? Shouldn't you be concentrating your writings on what can be done to bring this country together rather than deamonizing people whose politics you don't agree with. Suppose I called your mother a fuc_ing wh_re would you like it?

Posted by: lori9
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Well, Lori, I guess it's pretty obvious you don't think overheated rhetoric and insults are dangerous or childish. Thanks for reminding me what mental illness looks like.

Posted by: arancia12 | January 12, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

ChuckinDenton

Just to be clear, I am not claiming that SP is anti-semitic with her reference to "blood libel". I am arguing that her use of those specific words attempts to somehow glorify her perceived persecution by the press as comparable to the suffering of the Jews and outlandish charges of being child killers by Christians. A very unnecessary way to highlight her being a victim. Especially considering that the real victims of the shooting are lying in hospital beds or being memorialized today.

Posted by: lmsinca | January 12, 2011 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Sarah is so right. She is clearly the victim here. Not the 9 year old girl that was murdered.

Why can't this woman "man up" and come out and say this was a tragedy and if anything she said had anything to do with creating an environment where this could happen then she is profoundly sorry.

Nah, that would imply she has the capacity to think of someone other than herself.

Posted by: Observer001 | January 12, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Continuing with my previous post, you only have to read Mr. Sargent's article to understand what I and others are talking about, how sad and pathetic of you Mr. Sargent. Unfortunately for you, I predict that Mrs. Palin will come from this stronger. I say unfortunately because I do not think that she would be good for the US unless she moves a little to the center.

Posted by: hoffmannrojas | January 12, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

@Q.B. "You are all really quite insane. And no shrink I am not offering a clinical diagnosis but am pointing out that these liberals thought patterns are deeply irrational, disordered and obsessive. The left's behavior is beyond appalling."

WOW!!!! Perhaps it was my two month abscence but I didn't remember you this far over the top Q.B. Get a grip. It's a blog not a bloodsport.

BTW FWIW I don't believe you or the vast majority of the conservative movement to be insane. I don't find your thinking irrational or disordered but honestly Q.B. again IMHO...very humble in fact...I do feel you are obsessing. Virtually every poster here has wound through the cornucopia of issues brought up by this tragedy...not just politics...mental health...gun control...but you are becoming a johnny one note...it's all about liberal insanity.

This tragedy has upset us all for an incredible variety of reasons...but calling each other insane is probably not the best way to start rapprochement.

We get that you are upset but to paraphrase the Bard..."Thou protests too much methinks."

Posted by: rukidding7 | January 12, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a joke, most even people in her on party know she's a joke. I wish she would just go away!

Posted by: noneckmd | January 12, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I could only listen to her for a minute or two. I can not stand her voice. She is so bizzare. "Carabu Barbie" does not have a chance in leading this country.

Posted by: joseph_charles | January 12, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

tomguy1 and schrodingerscat, why don't YOU admit your small and tangental role too? Then tell us if you've stopped beating your wife.

lawrence2xl (hopefully, no relation), you are calling her a terrorist now?!

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"Note the word "purport." Finally, Palin, wholly unapologetic all the way, ridiculed those who have called on her to tone it down, and even cited Gabrielle Giffords's reading of the First Amendment on the House floor to bolster her case:"

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But...because the shooter is a paranoid schizophrenic, the kerfluffle about tying the act to a political affiliation, originally by a Democratic Party hack sheriff...who we now know had the best opportunity to prevent this and didn't...was and is a mischaracterization of the motivation. Therefore she has nothing to apologize for even if she is as saddened as the rest of this by the event.

The truth is she is right...that the left has co-opted the event to make political points wholly unrelated to the actual event.

And because the political points are being made consciously by the left using the victims political affiliations as the shooter's targeting scheme...even after they know the truth about the shooter's mental condition...then those points are libelous political capital from the blood of innocents...thus SP is correct in terming the effort "blood libel."...and you, Sargent,...are not only wrong...but you know you're wrong...and you are thus complicit in the blood libel.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | January 12, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

joseph_charles, do you think she has a chance for the Republican nomination at least? If you think that her voice is bad, what did you think of Hillary "shrinking vulture" Clinton? Is that really a proper basis upon which to base your vote for President of the United States?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

And incidentally...anybody who sees this objectively...as the overwhelming number of people in this country do...will correctly see the left's kerfluffle for what it is...and the left will, justifiably, pay heavily once again. In fact, even though I don't want SP as a president, I can see her stock rising from the left's latest LAMEntations over this.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | January 12, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: A-Voter | January 12, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Sargent, you are part of the libalous filth that Palin was talking about. Not only is there no evidence that Palin, or any other politician, talk radio host or journalist had any sway with Laughner, the evidence actually points to him simply being mentally disturbed. For you, or any other journalist to try to claim that Laughnear's act was encouraged by conservatives is pure fabrication. It is time that the Washington Post stop being part of the problem in America and begin to engage in honest journalism.

Posted by: mike85 | January 12, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

PanhandleWilly, luckily there's a cap of 32% who actually think Palin is to blame for these murders. Probably the same percentage who think that Elvis is still alive ; )

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Leftists are now openly calling for Palin's assassination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxgJKNpjSNI&feature=player_embedded#!

Death threats: how progressive!

Leftastic! Fidel Castro Blames Tea Party for Giffords Shooting
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/11enero-The%20crime.html

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I clearly remember that Limbaugh fuc- (I mean) no, come to think about it I wish I could spell out what a jerk I think of him, was ranting about how violence was going to come from the left first. Any tme that hate filled lyng jerk's voice comes on the radio any more I turn to another channel. As for the quitter from Alaska, I don't give her the time of day either.

They complain about branwashing on the radio from the left but who pays for these two sewer fountains to spout their foul waste?

Posted by: glenglish | January 12, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse


Please provide one iota of evidence that political speech affects the action of a psychotic. Until that is done, assigning blame to any public figure is absolute nonsense and is promulgating the hate speech rather that exacerbating it.

Posted by: edbyronadams | January 12, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse

This woman makes my skin crawl every time she opens her mouth!!! Why does the media give her so much attention? She's nothing!! How can she even think about running a Country and couldn't even finish her job as Governor of Alaska? Every time she opens her mouth she puts her foot in it. Let her run for President so she can make herself look even more stupid!!! She makes it even harder for Women to move up in this Country. And yes I do blame her for all the Arizona mess, she started it with all this reload talk. All politicians needs to watch what comes out of their mouths, it has consequences!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pook1968 | January 12, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter if she had issued a media response or not, because these homos and leftist haters are going to brow beat any and everyone with this incident, in order to promote their leftist agenda. Whether its gun rights, censorship, homo rights, illegal immigration, abortion, you name it. You leftist are a sad and sordid bunch indeed, especially those like this homo Capehart and these other leftist media squawkers. But keep your squawking and your Palin hating, no one's really listening, and Palin isn't going anywhere, so eat your hate-filled leftist hearts out.

Posted by: hared | January 12, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

glenglish, you are aware that the killer cited The Communist Manifesto among his favorites, right?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

What about the US map with cross hairs that the Democrats published before the November elections? Of course that doesn't count, does it. It is only the conservatives that the WaPo criticizes.

Posted by: mike85 | January 12, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Obama's allies conducted a smear campaign this weekend"

Palin's allies conducted a murder campaign this weekend...

Posted by: staussfamily | January 12, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Another coward unable to stand behind her convictions. Either she's tough as nails or pouting about being a victim again. Make up your mind, Snooki.

Posted by: bjhex | January 12, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Sarah is so right. She is clearly the victim here. Not the 9 year old girl that was murdered.

Why can't this woman "man up" and come out and say this was a tragedy and if anything she said had anything to do with creating an environment where this could happen then she is profoundly sorry.

Nah, that would imply she has the capacity to think of someone other than herself.

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Why don't you apologize? She won't apologize because she didn't have anything more to do with it than you did, stupid. Pathetic move bringing up the 9 year old girl. Like you give a crap. Never let a crisis go to waste, right.

Posted by: peterg73 | January 12, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

It really doesn't matter what Palin says, the point has been made forever. She has terrible judgement: she put the crosshairs ad up, everyone understood its shooter imagery and message, certainly Rep. Giffords did and said so. Doesn't matter what Palin says now; she owns it.

Posted by: dudh | January 12, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RainForestRising
At this point, the liberals SHOULD BE HEA(L)D ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DID THIS WEEKEND.

May I suggest some 'Second Amendment Solutions".

You can ask Sharon Angle what she meant
by that - casue I guess I'm just not sure.

Posted by: AZ28 | January 12, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Amazing how Palin is always the victim, and never takes responsibility for anything, even her vitriolic language.

Posted by: aragon86 | January 12, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

KaddafiDefendaEst, you do realize you are the ONLY person in this section defending the use of the term "blood libel" as applicable to this situation.

To try to correlate a centuries-old lie, used as a justification for anti-Semitic violence (and killings), with the efforts to question the cumulative effect of Palin's hateful rhetoric and its potential link to a politically motivated mass shooting is not just absurd, but in light of the intended target being Jewish, beyond the pale.

Keep trying to "Defend Kaddafi" (a true mass murderer) - your name gives you away as the anti-Semite you are.

Posted by: DCSucks | January 12, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

hared, unfortunately the MEDIA is doing more to encourage copycat killing(s) than anything Palin's done. See "Ethical Problems of Mass Murder Coverage in the Mass Media" http://www.claytoncramer.com/scholarly/JMME2.htm

staussfamily, thanks for the blood libel.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"Obama's allies conducted a smear campaign this weekend"

Palin's allies conducted a murder campaign this weekend...

Posted by: staussfamily
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Shameless.

Posted by: peterg73 | January 12, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"Blood Libel"? Who writes this stuff?

There are lots of more worthy Republicans out there who are well read and have ideas than Palin. Could somebody please shine some media light on them?

Posted by: snout | January 12, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

arancia12 in reply to your comment at 10:53 AM


The American People are sick of the liberals

The American People do NOT want your kind of health care bill


The American People do NOT want the liberal agenda


The American People do not want your lame duck session, when you do things CLEARLY OPPOSED to what the AMERICAN PEOPLE said they wanted in the NOVEMBER ELECTION


In this country, we settle things with elections


The liberals have VIOLATED THAT IDEA


The liberals have DISRESPECTED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE


AND YES, I SPEAK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.


You liberals can't say you speak for the people, you lost the election.


No one wants your garbage - time to LEAVE


Stop your smear campaigns, your baseless attacks


Stop your FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM


Get lost


Get it?


Not sure you do.


.

Posted by: RainForestRising | January 12, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Why is it that people on the right always want people on the left to apologize for words that they speak. However, the right will always claim that their words are protected under the first admendment; therefore, it can not incite any actions.

If this is true, why such words as "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death" is considered as one of the greatest quotes that incited militia to fight against their tyrrants? Anyone who screams "Fire" in a populated theatre is not protected as free speech but it is called inciting a riot.

As a citizen of equal rights as those on the right, my opinion that words can incite an unbalance person into doing criminal things is also protected under our constitution. We may choose to disagree on that but don't attempt to hold our words any higher than the words spoken by those who disagree.

Posted by: ronhamp | January 12, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Palin would do well to remember that the REAL victims of this violence are being buried this week.

Posted by: behindthecamera | January 12, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Palin is right. The leftist sleaze and amoral democrat hate peddlers want desperately for this shooter to be a Tea Party member, Sorry, effeminate, hysterical, little liberal whiners.

Posted by: carlbatey | January 12, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Blood libel. Sarah Palin's use of this unfortunate term in the present context suggests that she has no idea of its vicious historical meaning and once again demonstrates her unfitness for high office.

Posted by: mmurray2 | January 12, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

snout, to answer your first question:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703367904576071913818696964.html

ronhamp, if there is a fire in the theater, you CAN scream "fire."

behindthecamera, that's how she began her remarks. Did you not watch it?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Imsinca-

Thanks for the reply. Actually, I wasn't referring to your comment. I was speaking more to those who would accuse her being anti-Semitic based on this. Lord knows, there's alot of jumping the gun going on these days.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | January 12, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Palin said: "Vigorous and spirited public debates during elections are among our most cherished traditions."

She is exactly correct. Further, she alluded to the "targeted" district being done by both sides. That is also exactly correct.

In fact, martial terms have been used by both Democrats and Republicans for as along as anyone can remember.

So, what is this really all about?

This is about the Washinton Post trying to chill free speech.

The questions are: will the American public allow the old time media to lynch Sarah Palin in public for a crime she did not commit? Will the Washington Post be successful in creating a conspiracy theory around Sarah Palin in the minds of Americans?

It is certainly unhelpful to the Washington Post that Sarah Palin has defended herself. Why, shouldn't people who are about to be lynched hang their heads and admit that the greater society doesn't like them?

Well, no!

The Washington Post is creating and perputating a fraud, a lie, and outright propaganda that is every bit as bad as the NAZI or the KKK.

Sarah Palin is correct when she says some in the mainstream media are creating a blood libel.

The sherrif down in Arizona has the same view as the Washington Post. When asked for evidence, something that law enforcement should have before they accuse someone of murder, he said he had absolutely none. Why? Because there is no evidence!

I was thinking that this paper was like a tabloid. But, I was mistaken. It is far worse!

How in the world can you accuse Palin of murder without evidence? Then expect she should not defend herself? This is the worst of anything American has had to deal with. This is the type of thinking that lead to blacks being lynched. I simply can't believe what I've been reading these last few days. It is nearly incomprehensible to see supposedly sane journalists fabricating a story out of whole cloth, making Palin guilty of murder, then trying to pubically lynch her!

And you say SHE has a problem. Maybe you guys should look in the mirror. .. Because "irrespondisble" doesn't quite explain the disjointed, demented hatred you journalists are displaying toward a citizen.

If there's a lynching, you will have to go thru an awful lot op patriots first, before you get to your intended victum, I have to tell you. I don't stand for the extermination of Jews, nor for lynchings of either black people nor Sarah Palin!

We are a nation of laws, and justice, and reason. You are not displaying reason when you try to lynch Palin.

Posted by: Cdgaman | January 12, 2011 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Palin feels she is right once again: enough about honoring the victims and their families on this day of remembrance in Tucson but let's get to the real blood in the matter - the "blood libel" against the poor, peaceable, victim Sarah Palin...the real victim in this tragedy.

Never mind she fully embodies the "shrill cry of imagined insults" she talked about today when her own words and images have to be taken down from her website immediately after the killings because they are examples of the violent images she traffics in. She is angered and victimized when her words are repeated as emblems of a violent national discourse. But that is not all, she lied repeatedly to the nation on "death panels" and the President "palling around with terrorists" yet feels we should honor her for her many virtues. Are these the examples of the "spirited debate" she alleges the world is amazed to see in America? Then she must be proud to be the Republican standard bearer for taking the country back one way or the other. Intimidation has no purpose in our system and she doesn't even know it.

She has been an arctic grifter from the first we saw of her and today she seriously misfired in her play for national sympathy when there are real victims still hurting badly in Tucson.


(Blood libel is a monstrous term to use today and makes no sense anyway.

Blood libel - the accusation that Jews murder Christian Children to make Matzot for passover, or for other purpose.)

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 12, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

1. Sarah Palin is an obnoxious blight on the political scene and her 15 minutes are way overdue.

2. She doesn't really understand the term "blood libel." Is anyone surprised by that?

3. The crosshairs ad? A strawman. Much ado about nothing. Jared L. had a lot of other things on his "mind."

4. Sherrif Dupnik. A self-aggrandizing blowhard. He thus has more in common with Sarah P. than either would admit!

Posted by: rop2 | January 12, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Sargent wrote:

["...Palin's phony framing of the issue..."]

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She framed the issue perfectly. Keep up your whinging, Sargent - it just gives the Conservatives more reason to demolish the Libs in 2012.

Posted by: pararanger22 | January 12, 2011 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I think it is perfectly clear (in retrospect) that ms. Palin's, Rep. Bachman's, and Rep. Angle's comments the past few months have been striking a spark in the presence of a volatile and highly combustble fluid.

until Tucson we could at least think things were worse when Preston Brooks caned Charles Sumner at his desk on the floor of the House. That is no longer true since Saturday's shooting.

Not that I would advocate any such thing, what do you think Palin, Angle, and Bachman would do or say if some nut shot up one of their gatherings?

Posted by: johndavison | January 12, 2011 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Sheriff Dupnik did not accuse the right or the left, republicans or democrats. What he said was

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"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."
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The reaction from various folks on the right is revealing.

Posted by: EliRabett2003 | January 12, 2011 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I happen to support Sarah Palin in this matter. As usual, the left wing couldn't wait to blame her, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, etc for the shooting in Tucson. The liberals just couldn't wait and see waht the FACTS were. If I were Sarah Palin, I would be mad as hell over all of the lies and insinuations.

What Sarah Palin's first public statements were showed the class act that she is....she asked everyone to keep Rep Gifford and all of the victims of the Tucson shooting in their prayers....period.

But no....the liberals couldn't just do that. They had to try to find some way to gain political advantage of it....and since the facts that were coming out about the shooter strongly indicated that he was a left-wing, dope-smoking lunatic....the liberals had to find a villain who wasn't one of their own...so back to slamming Palin once again.

Enough already....if the political environment has gotten so toxic, maybe you liberals should look in the mirror sometime.... Remember Moveon.org's "General Betray us" ad? Or how about the antics of Code Pink? Where was your criticism of those and many more left-wing spawned inflammatory items?

I hear crickets chirping in the silence....

I wonder why?

Posted by: honorswar26 | January 12, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I think it is perfectly clear (in retrospect) that ms. Palin's, Rep. Bachman's, and Rep. Angle's comments the past few months have been striking a spark in the presence of a volatile and highly combustble fluid.

until Tucson we could at least think things were worse when Preston Brooks caned Charles Sumner at his desk on the floor of the House. That is no longer true since Saturday's shooting.

Not that I would advocate any such thing, what do you think Palin, Angle, and Bachman would do or say if some nut shot up one of their gatherings?

Posted by: johndavison | January 12, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Palin and friends are playing with fire if and when Giffords recovers.

Posted by: EliRabett2003 | January 12, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Palin now is in the same catagory as Barbour..

Unelectable...

AND
it is a REAL Long list on the GOP side..

Not only cannot the GOP Govern.
They have nobody remotely capable.
and
that is proably by design

Despite the GOP being able to get a Ham Sandwich Elected.

We do not need another cowardly leader like George Bush..

Posted by: IssaGallegos1 | January 12, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

[DCSucks spat: Keep trying to "Defend Kaddafi"]

Cluebat to moron: My User ID is Latin for "Kaddafi must be destroyed."

Anyone with an ounce of historical literacy knows the phrase is borrowed from Cato the Elder.

Try to put your puny Leftist brain in gear.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa had this to say about Florida's new Republican Governor Rick Scott on October 23:

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida. Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida."

I guess the Professional Left was off that day.

Posted by: drjcarlucci | January 12, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

How’s that re-loady, targety thing working out for ya?

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 12, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

EliRabett2003, what is revealing is your failure to include this quote from Sheriff Dupnik:

"The kind of rhetoric that flows from people like Rush Limbaugh, in my judgment he is irresponsible, uses partial information, sometimes wrong information ... he attacks people, angers them against government, angers them against elected officials, and that kind of behavior in my opinion is not without consequences."

IssaGallegos, we will have to agree to disagree about Palin and Bush.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Palin implies that speech doesn't incite violence ~ certainly hers doesn't ~ and then she proceeds to use a term that has resulted in many Jewish deaths.

She's clearly evil and needs to be kept away from firearms.

Posted by: filfeit | January 12, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

How’s that re-loady, targety thing working out for ya?

Posted by: FoundingMother | January 12, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but clearly Ms. Palin just doesn't get it. The care in which she prepared her excuses for herself is in stark contrast to the thoughtlessness of her constant anti-government and inciting rhetoric. She accepts not one iota of her culpability in the toxic environment she has led. I'm shocked for my country to have had to endure her quest for celebrity. But with celebrity comes responsibility. Where she has succeeded in the former, she has failed miserably in the latter.

Posted by: Dake | January 12, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

@mm

"And I would think they would of stopped her from saying this."

Maybe she hired Christine O'Donnell's PR crew.
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Maybe this is the Palin version of the now infamous "I Am Not A Witch" video.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 12, 2011 12:18 PM | Report abuse

[FoundingMother: "How’s that re-loady, targety thing working out for ya?"]

Hey, Palin-hating lynch mob.

Feel the Leftist hate target rage.
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647

[Source: Democratic Leadership Committee website]

The shooter was one of your own. Own him, Leftists.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Any competent psychiatrist can recognize signs of Narcissistic personality disorder in Sarah Palin.

It is "a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism." (See Mayo Clinic website)

Posted by: trace1 | January 12, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

This Palin has no shame.
She put up crosshairs and didn't respond when Giffords mentioned it.
Now she is trying to make it sound like she is being used as a political tool of liberals.
She doesn't seem to understand that 5 people died and that her political grandstanding is not wanted at this time.

Posted by: ubblybubbly | January 12, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

filfeit, she didn't imply that at all. See, for instance, the YouTube video posted above specifically threatening her with death. She's not the one to keep away from firearms.

FoundingMother, so far so good (how many millions are YOU worth?)

Dake, have you stopped beating your wife?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

So ... Greg ... you claim to know what is in Gabrielle Giffords' mind ... Ooooo-kay!

Your not doing a little "lucid dreaming" yourself, are you Greg? I mean with all of the hate speech towards the right you've been engaged in uring the last few days mixed in with a bit of hallucinating, I wonder what practical insanity you might engage in.

Or maybe you're just a typical liberal coward, who spews forth venom from behind the safety of his computer screen and incites others to radical acts. Be careful Greggie, this fingerpointing business works both ways!

Posted by: braunt | January 12, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I also had had it with the Main Stream Media - stop reporting on this poor excuse of a human being. When is her 15 min. of her infamy ever going to end?? I am SOOOO sick of seeing he smarmy face! enough already!

Posted by: sux123 | January 12, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Turns out Mom was right: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

Sarah, six people have died. Including a child. One is fighting for her life and will likely be permanently damaged.

For once, it's not about you. Be quiet.

Posted by: trace1 | January 12, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

trace1: Recall, Dr. Krauthammer (a competent psychiatrist) identified signs of narcissistic personality disorder in Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/08/AR2010070804277.html

Indeed, Obama's narcissism is directly responsible for the AZ shooter's schooling at a neo-Weatherman indoctrination camp.

The gunman attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a Leftist group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama.

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Read more: Bill Ayers' communist provided Arizona shooter's curriculum
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=249429#ixzz1AlWX33Gl

He's all yours, Leftists. Own him.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

KaddafiDelendaEst, God forbid that some crazy shoots a Republican that Obama campaigned against, then we can blame him too? I wonder why the left didn't blame Jodie Foster for the attempt on Reagan's life?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't know which is more stupid: blaming Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, or the tea Party movement for the Griffiths shooting, or Palin characterizing such irresponsible drivel as blood libel. They had nothing to do with the shooting, and to say that they did is a cheap shot. But cheap shots are ubiquitous in politics, and they are not blood libels.

Posted by: MarkDavidovich | January 12, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

For once, it's not about you. Be quiet.
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I'll give Sarah *some* credit. At least they didn't aim the camera to take in that bear skin hanging on the wall behind her, while she opined about being against killing bears for cosmetic reasons.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 12, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

There is a time to speak and a time to be quiet. For Palin, this was a time to be quiet.

Posted by: sdl63 | January 12, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

[trace1 spat: "For once, it's not about you. Be quiet."]

Yesterday, Leftists were shrieking for Mrs. Palin to say something. Today, they condemn her for doing just that.

Make up your collectivists minds.

Physician, heal thyself.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

KaddafiDelendaEst:

Did you even read the Krauthammer article? He opined that Obama, like most presidents, has a streak of narcissism, which is a personality trait. That is not even close to diagnosing someone with Narcissistic personality disorder, which is an identifiable mental illness. Stop posting rubbish.

Posted by: trace1 | January 12, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm a conservative-leaning independent voter, and I couldn't bear to watch more than a few seconds of that video. From her deer-in-the-headlights interviews in 2008 to her clearly contrived policy opinions concocted for 2012, Sarah Palin just completely annoys me.

Posted by: whitwhit | January 12, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

clawrence12: "God forbid that some crazy shoots a Republican that Obama campaigned against, then we can blame him too?"]

Cluebat to moron: The AZ shooter killed a Bush-appointed federal judge that Obama opposed. That (and the cited EVIDENCE of Obama's Weatherman connections) satisfies your criteria for condemnation.

The shooter is all yours. Own him, Leftists.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Some of these comments are hilarious and speak to te dementia that has become Liberalism. The Left slanders and libels Sarah Palin for four days, making HER the focus of the debate. Then when she responds to her critics they tell her to shut up, it's not all about her.

I know that Liberals are beside themselves after the results of the last national elections, but some of the comments made by them here border on psychotic. I guess all of that rage formerly directed at W had to go somewhere. And you wonder why the political discourse in this country is so toxic!

Posted by: braunt | January 12, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

New liberal strategy: If you disagree with someone, accuse them of murder.

Posted by: diehardlib | January 12, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey rainforestrising, Obama was voted in by the majority of this country so you get over it!!! thats right we the people voted as a majority for him to be president!! chew on that awhile!! and with Obama comes his agenda so like it or not he is president until at least 2012.

Posted by: arewedoneyet1 | January 12, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Doctor:
What is it she does now? Look how she rubs her hands.

Gentlewoman:
It is an accustom'd action with her, to seem thus washing her hands. I have known her continue in this a quarter of an hour.

Lady Macbeth:
Yet here's a spot.

Doctor:
Hark, she speaks. I will set down what comes from her, to satisfy my remembrance the more strongly.

Lady Macbeth:
Out, damn'd spot! Out, I say!—One; two: why, then 'tis time to do't. — Hell is murky. — Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our pow'r to accompt? — Yet who would have thought the old man to have had so much blood in him?

William Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 1, 26–40

Posted by: 02Pete | January 12, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

It's TOO obvious Obama's cronies are getting desperate. They can't build any confidence in the president with his performance record (or lack thereof), so they vainly attempt to make *everybody else* look bad.

Palin had NOTHING to do with those murders, and it's completely asinine trying to put ANY blame on her. The morons who want our weapons taken away...the Marxists...will go to any extreme to try to blame law-abiding gunowners for the irresponsibility of others. The country (read: liberals!!) have gone 'way beyond "dumbed-down."

Posted by: flipper49 | January 12, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Are you calling me a moron or leftist (not sure which is worse)? Obama didn't "campaign" against the judge.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I love all the statements to tell Sarah to stay quiet. She didn't insert herself in this situation - you guys inserted her into this situation by accusing her of inspiring him.

And now that the evidence is piling up that you guys were wrong, you want her to shut up.

Look, you guys managed to get your shots in, but don't get all sanctimonious and defensive when Sarah defends herself from these pretty serious accusations.

P.S. How many of these people decrying violence have a Free Mumia T-shirt?

Posted by: sold2u | January 12, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Everyone knows the Democratic Leadership Council in 2004 invented the US Map with the Bullseyes on its "enemies."

Why is the mainstream media ignoring this fact?

Posted by: Independ | January 12, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

First, it was just a little line about Mrs. Palin's tweet and take on Ariz shooting. I ignored.

Next was a larger title line. I ignored

Followed by a big headline. What nobody was paying attention to what Mrs. Palin had to say, so let's make it bigger.

I figure we will have the whole issue dedicated to Mrs. Palin's ramblings.

Enough already. I don't care what she has to say, what she believes or her take on anything, which somehow she always relates to how it affects her.

I also, find reading apologies from her supporters boring, rants about how she is misunderstood. Good, great, fine - she is misunderstood. Now, can we put her and her ramblings out to pasture?

Really her 15 minutes of fame is soooo old.

Posted by: Tuathe | January 12, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse

The left has no shame. Any event, any tragedy is used to promote their agenda and blame those who oppose them.

Never seen as disgusting a crowd as those in the liberal camp.

Posted by: r_leever | January 12, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

From Loughner's best friend:

"He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right."

As the facts are coming out, it's becoming more and more clear that Loughner was not influenced in the least bit by Sarah Palin. It was one thing for the media to engage in speculation immediately following the murders (which is counter to the ethics of the profession...but I digress). It's another matter altogether to hold on to a line of accusations when presented with some clear facts stating otherwise.

Does anyone at the Post practice real journalism anymore?

Posted by: diehardlib | January 12, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Sarah say that after the election we shake hands and get back to work....when? When, Sarah, when? You and your Tea Party friends never accepted the fact that Obama was elected fairly and squarely. The only work you got back to was the work of libeling him every chance you could get....communist, marxist, socialist, danger to America, and so on. No, Sarah, you lying sack of demagoguery, you cannot be taken seriously. Whine, whine, whine....so now you are the victim? But such a cowardly victim....too cowardly to face a press conference.

Posted by: Chagasman | January 12, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I know Mrs. Palin rehearsed the video response before she gave it. After all the bloodshed I think if I had seen the words blood libel in my response I would have questioned the use of those two words. My guess is she didn't know their meaning and thought they sounded good.

You go Sarah!

Posted by: bigmac1810 | January 12, 2011 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Many years ago, singer/songwriter Jim Croce composed a song about the right wing Christian movement. I believe the name of the song to be, "Which Way Are You Going?. Anyway, Croce recognized that if you weren't with "them", you were against them. Persuasion consisted of one hand on the Bible, one hand on the gun.

Where are we, as a nation, going with those who profess to be god-fearing, but will kill you if you do not believe as they do?

Posted by: phirokawa | January 12, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

"seeking to muzzle dissent with shrill cries of imagined insults"

Remember the phony outrage over the harmless "lipstick on a pig" phrase that she and her supporters insisted could only have been meant as a personal insult?

Hypocrite

Posted by: hohandy1 | January 12, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

diehardlib, no, they just move on to the next line of attack: "it would be a serious stretch to assign any direct blame to Palin, but . . ."

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

[trace1 admits: "Obama, like most presidents, has a streak of narcissism"]

You just accused Palin of NPD (without a shred of evidence); and now you have the temerity to howl approval of Obama's narcissism?

Your deafening silence over cited EVIDENCE of Obama's Weatherman connections to the AZ shooter speaks volumes.

Own the shooter. He's all yours, Leftists.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

[hohandy1 "Remember the phony outrage"]

FLASHBACK August 2010: Michael Enright (Leftist interfaith film company volunteer) stabbed an anti-mosque Muslim NYC cabbie and faces trial this year.
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/08/25/left-the-muslim-cabbie-stabbing-was-right-wing-islamophobia-oh-wait-a-minute/

Leftists rushed to lynch the entire Right for that "progressive" hate crime, too.

Giffords' shooter is all yours, Leftists. Own him.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse


You Journolistas are full steam ahead with your vilification of Palin.

Last week, before the incident, I commented on how many negative articles appear on WaPo about Palin every day.

Now you Journolistas are in over-drive.

Palin's right about Blood Libel.

Blood libel - The Left using the blood spilled by innocent victims caused by a madman, to libel those on the Right, without evidence, to push their own agenda.

Agenda - Quiet free speech and discredit those opposed to Obama and the Democrats' policies.

You on the Left are taking away the real debate that should take place after this horrendous incident last Saturday.

The real debate should be how so many people, who knew of this madman's mental state, didn't take action to have him evaluated and admitted to a mental institution.

It seems that there should be a path to get people who are in his mental state evaluated and institutionalized if they are deemed a threat to others and/or themselves.

Instead the Journolistas and other on the Left try to demonize those on the Right in order to silence and discredit them.

Once again the Journolistas and the Left stoop to a new low.

Posted by: janet8 | January 12, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives around the country agree:

Sarah Palin is The Messiah.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 12, 2011 1:02 PM | Report abuse

She used a teleprompter to give the speech. Isn't she against the use of teleprompters by President Obama.

Oh, that's right. It's OK for her, just not for a Democrat. Hypocrite.

Posted by: cfeher | January 12, 2011 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Ethan2010 agrees: Both Giffords and the shooter were Jewish Leftists.

Own him, Ethan.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | January 12, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Mrs. Palin's chances of gaining the Republican nomination dropped in half over the last few days (from low 20s to low teens percent). See contracts trading on http://www.intrade.com/index.jsp?request_operation=trade&request_type=action&selConID=652756

That means that traders definitely see this hurting her chances and sold contracts.

I notice that Mr. Romney's chances have gone up somewhat in the same time frame.

Those who think Mrs. Palin's chances haven't been hurt, can make some money trading contracts. Those who think that Mrs. Palin is now toast can still make some money selling contracts short. Here's a way to put your money where your mouth is.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 12, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

No, cfeher.

bigmac1810 (calories?), my guess is that she knows their meaning AND read this article too:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703367904576071913818696964.html

She's expanding the meaning, as janet8 just pointed out, and Palin is clearly beating the Journ-O-Lists at their own game.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't Obama giving some kind of speech today too? There's also going to be a "Native American blessing" at the McKale Center event.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Stick a fork in Palin's political career. It's done.

Posted by: wideblacksky | January 12, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh settle down, RainForestRising. No one's biting.

Posted by: fmamstyle | January 12, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Is Ms. Palin really suggesting that political rhetoric has no effect on the human psyche? Why do politicians debate or give speeches if not to persuade others to take action?

If someone makes a threatening statement towards someone or some institutions, even a child in school, that person can be held liable as in the case of intention to harm. Why is it different for politicians?

Would Ms. Palin like to explain her beliefs about this to Jewish (and other) survivors of the Holocaust? Is she saying that people in Europe acted on their own, not on the basis of the political rhetoric of such leaders such as Hitler? Yes, the prejudice was already there, but they were incited to act through political persuasion.

Politicians must know how to debate without using threatening or maligning terminology towards any particular person or group of people. Children can learn to do this, so can adults.

Posted by: lb_ck | January 12, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh settle down, RainForestRising. No one's biting.

Posted by: fmamstyle | January 12, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

lb_ck, you mean like the following?

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun . . . because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I've seen Eagles fans."

Barack Obama, June 14, 2008

"That Scott down there that's running for Governor of Flordia" Rep. Kanjorski (D-PA) said "instead of running for Governor of Florida, they ought to . . . put him against the wall and shoot him."

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey Kaddaffi, I may have misread your name on my screen, but I was able to read several of your earlier comments defending the use of the term blood libel that were lifted word for word (with the links included) from the National Review website.

Own your plagiarism, you anti-Semite.

Oh, and just because I despise Palin doesn't make me a leftist - talk about moronic conclusions - I am lifelong Republican.

Posted by: DCSucks | January 12, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

To those who suggest that Palin's targets, Angle's exhortation to engage in 2nd amendment solutions if the ballot box doesn't get you what you want, and Speaker Bohner's suggesting a Democratic House members consigned themselves to the status of "dead man" had nothing to do with a Democrat and her supporters being shot. . . I leave you with this statement :

Digging ditches doesn't make it rain, it just tells the rain where to go.

For Palin and Fox News, hate is not even an end point. It's just a way to get stupid people to send them money. If a few liberals get killed in the process. . . oh well.

Just don't blame Palin because she is already a victim, and you know how victims tend to lash out when you back them into a corner. Be careful.

Posted by: mattrose | January 12, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

To those who suggest that Palin's targets, Angle's exhortation to engage in 2nd amendment solutions if the ballot box doesn't get you what you want, and Speaker Bohner's suggesting a Democratic House members consigned themselves to the status of "dead man" had nothing to do with a Democrat and her supporters being shot. . . I leave you with this statement :

Digging ditches doesn't make it rain, it just tells the rain where to go.

For Palin and Fox News, hate is not even an end point. It's just a way to get stupid people to send them money. If a few liberals get killed in the process. . . oh well.

Just don't blame Palin because she is already a victim, and you know how victims tend to lash out when you back them into a corner. Be careful.

Posted by: mattrose | January 12, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I had a bowl of chili for lunch a bit ago, and the waitress asked me if I wanted a cracker.

I then gave her a 5 minute dressing-down about how divisive and hurtful her use of the term 'cracker' was and that she should be ashamed of using a term that causes such pain in white people.

The fact that this is an issue, that any writer spends even one second writing about this shows how depraved, contemptuous and lacking of serious thought the political left is in this country.

++

Posted by: Hawaiian_Gecko | January 12, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

DCSucks, do you consider the following to at least be libel per se:

"I think it's even more crass and counterproductive to let those who called for violence and death, like Sarah Palin did, off the hook."

Posted by: solsticebelle | January 12, 2011 10:58 AM

(I sure hope that I attributed that in proper blog format, grammar police)

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, stop blaming me, it's the liberal Media's fault.
Sarah, grow up and take responsibility for your action, the blood is in your hand, you, Glen Beck, Rush and all the other right wing liars.

Posted by: tqmek1 | January 12, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

@RainForestRising wrote:THE NATION DESERVES A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF OBAMA:
___________________________________________

As long as we investigate republicans pundits for their hate and their association with those who would harm those who disagree with them. Than we should investigate George Bush/Cheney for bankrupting American and while we are at it, lets investigate the investigators who investigate what they investigate. And than open up a debate about investigations of investigations and when all is said and done lets retchet up the rhetoric about all the investigations and make palin a victim again.

Posted by: Realistic5 | January 12, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is pathetic. Sure, the first amendment gives her the right to say what she wants, but it doesn't give her an out on the consequences of her speech.

The end. She and the rest of the right wing broke it, now they own it. kaithxbai.

Posted by: lcrider1 | January 12, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow. You really CAN see the teleprompter reflected in her glasses. LOL.

I'm guessing it took her four days of rehearsal before she was ready to film this video. What a crock.

Posted by: lcrider1 | January 12, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

There is a reason why, in addition to her use of teleprompters, that #BlamePalin exists.

And that is Palin herself and her hatred of America, our Congress, our President, our Rule of Law, and our Middle Class way of life.

Stand down, Sarah. Move back to Russia.

Posted by: WillSeattle | January 12, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Is it just a big coincidence that most of the (known) members of Journ-O-List are Jewish?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Whether Sarah Palin's map incited violence is not the point, the point is, via the images on her map, she suggested something horrible. And now, in truly gruesome fashion, she has gotten what she asked for. There's no way around it: she suggested that Giffords be taken out, Giffords (horribly) was, and now Sarah Palin should own that statement. Or, express regret for it. Instead, she's bravely pretending like she never said it at all.

Posted by: smariel | January 12, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"Is it just a big coincidence that most of the (known) members of Journ-O-List are Jewish?"

Yes.

Is it just a big coincidence that almost all conservatives are idiots?

No. Call it "intelligent design"

Posted by: dwt301 | January 12, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

smariel, you are however arguing that the map incited violence. Why else would she have to express regret for it? I guess we will have to agree to disagree whether "via the images on her map" that she suggested, asked, or in any way prompted someone to literally shoot Giffords (i.e. incite violence). Do you really believe that she wanted Giffords shot?! Think about what you are claiming though. That would be, in reality, solicitation of murder. As crazy as Sheriff Dupnik is, I don't think that even he will investigate that.

Palin "owns" every statement (not what you bravely pretend she said though), and she has said nothing to express regret for.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I just wish that she had waited one more day and released it DURING Obama's speech ; )

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

No, we're not going to talk about Palin. She had nothing to do with it so why in the world would we want to talk about Palin, talk radio, or the Republicans. Loughner was a far left radical who had a problem with Gifford's, a moderate Democrat. It begins there and ends there.

Posted by: houstonian | January 12, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

LOL. Rainforestrising is completely deranged. Clearly a teabagheadnazilunatic.

Posted by: letemhaveit | January 12, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

What is funny is how the lamestream media attacks TWO words, out of 1,141.

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

clawrence12 said: "tomguy1 and schrodingerscat, why don't YOU admit your small and tangental role too? Then tell us if you've stopped beating your wife."

If you are referring to heated comments made during debate on these comment boards, you would perhaps have a point. However, there are several differences between my role and Sarah Palin's:

1. Unlike Sarah Palin, I am not an influential public figure with nearly rabid loyal supporters who unthinkingly agree with everything I say and do.
2. Unlike Sarah Palin, I do not use violent imagery or war metaphors even when discussing issues that I feel passionately about.
3. Unlike Sarah Palin, I have not made a career of creating controversey and then blaming others for it.
4. Unlike Sarah Palin, I DO admit a small and tangential role. I recognize that we are all connected, and that my actions have some influence on others. I try to keep my contribution to the public discourse civil, but I am not perfect. I admit this in spite of the fact that my role in the public discourse, and in cheapening the public discourse, is significantly smaller than hers. If I can admit this, why can't she?
5. And finally, unlike you, I refrain from unfounded and baseless remarks about spousal abuse. Particularly when those remarks have nothing to do with the discourse at hand and will completely undermine any credibility that my comment otherwise might have had.

Any other questions, clawrence12?

Posted by: tomguy1 | January 12, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

For one brief moment Sarah Palin had the opportunity to act and speak like an adult. Predictably, she passed it up.
A simple statement of regret that perhaps her choice of words and symbols might have been misinterpreted as a call to violence would have been appropriate. A simple realization that often-repeated words and images can have real - if unintended - consequences is a mark of maturity.
Instead, we get the total denial of any responsibility that I have only seen from my 6 year old nephew and my lesser public defender clients.
Sarah Palin did not fire those shots. She did not urge the shooter to fire those shots. She did not buy him a gun, nor did she drive him to the site of the tragedy.
But perhaps, just perhaps, her frequent words and images invoking gun violence triggered a deviant thought in a deviant mind that led to this tragedy.
An adult would have recognized, and regretted, that possibility.

Posted by: sidprejean | January 12, 2011 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mrs. Quittypantsonfire:

I believe that your map was in poor taste. I believe that it is impossible that this internet savvy government conspiracy theorist saw your map and heard your violent rhetoric and that it influenced him. I have repeatedly posted variations of this opinion on the internet for the last 97 hours and will continue to do so. That's my First Amendment right.

In my opinion, you, Madam, are a shameless grifter. Please do keep your face in the media for the next two years. You will be the death of the Republican Party.

Posted by: ibwilliamsi | January 12, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

**** My comment should read: ". I believe that it is impossible that this internet savvy government conspiracy theorist DIDN'T SEE your map..."

See how easy it is to admit a mistake?

Posted by: ibwilliamsi | January 12, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

sidprejean and tomguy1, one last question:

If you know that you don't beat your spouse -- and everyone is saying that it's a serious stretch to assign any blame to you -- then can you at least see how silly it would be for someone to insist that you "act like an adult" and recognize, and regret, the possibility that you did beat your spouse?

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The one thing this thread proves is that many liberals have genuinely deranged thought patterns and are too deeply morally corrupt for rational thought.

To the one commenter who asserts that Palin is too late, she responded Saturday with a short statement of condolence. Then your lunatic lynch mob decided to make the killings about her. Your President doesn't own this moment or any other. I for one don't need to hear his mouth at all.

Posted by: quarterback1 | January 12, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The one thing this thread proves is that many liberals have genuinely deranged thought patterns and are too deeply morally corrupt for rational thought.

To the one commenter who asserts that Palin is too late, she responded Saturday with a short statement of condolence. Then your lunatic lynch mob decided to make the killings about her. Your President doesn't own this moment or any other. I for one don't need to hear his mouth at all.

Posted by: quarterback1 | January 12, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

TO DEMONIZE A LADY OF THIS CALIBER WITH SUCH A STUPID COLUM IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE AND THE ARTHUR SHOULD BE " TARED AND FEATHERED."

Posted by: jackwbarnes1 | January 12, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

1. Greg Sargent: Please update your blog with the definition of blood libel in the blog. Your blog title indicates that you will define the term so you need to do so. (I understand the term, but not everybody does. )

2. I find her use of that term shocking. I know she's a narcissist, but 'm starting to wonder if she's a sociopath.

Posted by: PhDiva | January 12, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Perfect speech by Palin.

And a little sound bite to get all the whining computer geeks busy and focused. I almost want to cry over the tragedy felt by many that Sarah Palin used again the WORDs. Soon no one will be allowed to say anything that might displease some special interest groups who use every possibility to get into spotlight with Sarah's name as a ladder. But then, how would they support their cause. That would be nice, right? Be glad ( as You really are) that Sarah said what she said. Vanity Fair.

Knowing the reaction will be predictable, better ask why Palin used ,as it appears, politincorrect word. I am absolutely sure she knew the reaction and all this whining vanity (like of those who eat chicken but can not kill a moose) will again increase the numbers of her supporters.

She threw the bite, so many got caught.Wise move, Sarah. Very refreshing to hear voice of normalcy in the society corrupted by people earning money on pretending to be victimized by virtually everything.

Posted by: Ivfab | January 12, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Dupnik for President - I appreciate his candor and honesty - we need men like him in high public office.

Posted by: lorig | January 12, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

clawrence12: The logic of your analogy is flawed. You are confusing unfounded accusations with consequences of known actions. The equivalent of your analogy would be if people were accusing Palin of statements that she did not make. In reality, there is no question here that Palin made the statements at issue. The question is whether those statements were ill-advised or even reckless. You seem to feel that her actions were not irresponsible. I respectfully disagree -- strongly.

Posted by: tomguy1 | January 12, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I am the one making unfounded accusations.

Moving on, even Alan Dershowitz is defending her: http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/01/12/exclusive-alan-dershowitz-defends-sarah-palins-use-of-term-blood-libel/

Posted by: clawrence12 | January 12, 2011 11:58 PM | Report abuse

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