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Posted at 1:33 PM ET, 01/ 3/2011

Senate Dems to Boehner: We'll block your repeal push

By Greg Sargent

Game on!

In the first official response from Dems to the House GOP plan to repeal health reform, Senate Democrats have penned a sharply worded letter to House Speaker John Boehner vowing that repeal is a dead letter in the Senate, the Associated Press reports.

Here's a copy of the letter itself, and it's well worth reading, because it provides the first clear glimpse of how Democrats will mount their political pushback against the GOP's repeal campaign. The crux of the argument is that repeal would deprive "middle class Americans" of a major reform, i.e., the closing of the Medicare "donut hole":

The new law provides that seniors will receive a 50-percent discount on the brand name drugs that they purchase while stuck in the "donut hole" and thus will save them thousands of dollars starting in 2011. According to the Department of Health and Human Services, seniors who have high prescription drug spending will save as much as $12,300 over the next 10 years and seniors with low drug costs will save an average of $2,400 over 10 years.

This is no minor reform. But almost as soon as it has taken effect, it is already in jeopardy.

The incoming House Republican majority that you lead has made the repeal of the federal health care law one of its chief goals. We urge you to consider the unintended consequences that the law's repeal would have on a number of popular consumer protections that help middle class Americans. The "donut hole" fix is just one measure that would be threatened by a repeal effort. Taking this benefit away from seniors would be irresponsible and reckless at a time when it is becoming harder and harder for seniors to afford a healthy retirement.

If House Republicans move forward with a repeal of the health care law that threatens consumer benefits like the "donut hole" fix, we will block it in the Senate. This proposal deserves a chance to work. It is too important to be treated as collateral damage in a partisan mission to repeal health care.

This is another sign that Dems view the GOP's push for repeal of reform as an opportunity of sorts. The debate sparked by the GOP's repeal push, Dems hope, will allow Dems another chance to educate the public about what's actually in the health care law, by pointing to the specific provisions that would disappear in the unlikely event that the Affordable Care Act were somehow to get repealed.

One assumes Dems will make this case about other provisions in the law, such as the restrictions on discrimation against people with preexisting conditions. More when I learn it, but for now, this is moderately encouraging -- it suggests Dems are gearing up to mount an aggressive response centered on informing the public about what's in the law by emphasizing what repeal would take away from people.

By Greg Sargent  | January 3, 2011; 1:33 PM ET
Categories:  Health reform, House GOPers, Senate Dems  
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"it suggests Dems are gearing up to mount an aggressive response centered on informing the public about what's in the law by emphasizing what repeal would take away from people."

Any time "Dems", and "aggressive response" are linked...is a good thing.

Posted by: CTVoter | January 3, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Here is what is missing from the letter:
P.S. If you don't back down on this quest to repeal Obamacare we will appear en masse on the Sunday talking head shows and denounce you as racists.

Please, this is a fight worth having. I'm glad that the Democrats are digging in. Let's have a knock down drag out fight about this. We're ready here on the right. Are you guys ready over there?

I think that the Democrats are in a bit of pickle with this. If they fight hard the issue stays on the public's mind and they will remember why they voted as they did last November.

So by all means, fight for Obamacare Democrats!!

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 3, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

The Republican push for repeal in the House may be a blessing in disguise for Democrats particularly in the Senate.

Americans have no clue what is in the health care reform law. All they know is that it was a messy process so people don't like it.

By pointing out SPECIFICALLY repeal would mean to Americans, Democrats can re-educate the public exactly what is health care reform.

Posted by: maritza1 | January 3, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"Any time "Dems", and "aggressive response" are linked...is a good thing for the corporate elite."

Fixed.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Point of clarification: I meant that it's only good for the corporate elite to have Dems on defense. Obviously the Dems need to hit back with everything they've got.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Good thing for the corporate elite?

Good thing, period.

Posted by: CTVoter | January 3, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Here's the problem with Boner and his retrograde ilk feigning a repeal of Affordable Care:

Most Americans strongly support the new health law, with some simply wishing that it had gone further.

So go for it, ye merry idiots!

PS: Hey Boner: how does it feel to be led around by the nose like a camel by a bunch of 85-IQ Tea Totalers?

Posted by: paul65 | January 3, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

OT:

--Demise of Iraqi water park illustrates limitations, abuse of U.S. funding program--

But today the Baghdad park is nearly waterless, more than two years after a U.S. military inauguration ceremony that included a marching band and water-scooter rides. Much of the compound is in ruins, swing sets have become piles of twisted steel, and the personal watercraft's engines have been gutted for spare parts.

[...]

Recently, even some U.S. commanders have begun voicing reservations about the fund, saying there is little evidence that the millions pumped into the Iraqi economy during and after the U.S. troop surge in 2007 achieved the intended results.

In a few cases, some commanders say, the money did more harm than good.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/02/AR2011010202491.html

Here is YET ANOTHER $5B gone to waste in Bush's war of choice.

And YET ANOTHER example of the "just throw money at it" branch of the "fiscally conservative" GOP.

Shameless frauds. Sick.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile....
Seniors are making appointments for FREE checkups effective Jan. 1 via Obamacare.
And now children can stay on parents' policies until age 26.
And now insurance companies cannot drop coverage when the insured get sick.
And now insurance companies cannot set maximum limits on benefits.
And now insurance companies cannot deny children coverage based on pre-existing conditions.

Obamacare timeline by year........woohoo!

http://docs.house.gov/energycommerce/TIMELINE.pdf

Posted by: angie12106 | January 3, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

And the GOP will continue to get their goldmine from corporate America while Americans get the SHAFT!

Thanks GOP; thanks for nothing.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | January 3, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see the Republican over-reach is beginning so soon...and in earnest!

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 3, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Boehner wanted to shoulder taxpayers with the bulk of the cost to cleanup the gulf.

Boehner works for corporations, not Americans.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | January 3, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

This also just kicked in. A very welcome Insurance coverage reform.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/109869894.html


"Health insurance premiums should go for actual medical care — not insurers' overhead and profits — the Obama administration said Monday in rules that for the first time require the companies to give consumers a rebate.

The regulation unveiled by the Health and Human Services department calls for insurance companies to spend at least 80 cents of the premium dollar on medical care and quality. For employer plans covering more than 50 people, the requirement is 85 cents. Insurers that fall short of the mark will have to issue their customers a rebate."


Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I love the talk about how wonderful this health care bill is but no one really knows what is in it. We do know that seniors now get something for nothing, which means young people will foot the bill, yet again. We know slacker kids can now be covered, and paid for, by their parents, up to 26. Already a law in Maryland and I guess Dems are ok with having slacker kids. I am not. So far I don't think anything else has kicked in, so please enlighten me as to what great things this bill has done so far. And assuming the SCOTUS court decides you can't force people to pay health insurance premiums, the pre-existing conditions things is DOA. Great law, huh? Only something a group of half wits could come up with. Oh yeah, right, it was crafted by Dems.

Posted by: mmourges | January 3, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

So, the Democrats best argument against repeal is a discount on some drugs while a Medicare patient is in the "donut hole?"

Anybody else think this is a little, I don't know, weak?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | January 3, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

What? the Democrats are going to stand up to the Republicans. Good PR, but not Democratic behavior.

i don't bet. but i would bet the Democrats fold like they always do.

Gosh those Democrats are so full of ... it. lol


Go Republicans Go. make the Democrats put up or shut up.
and they usually shut up right away.

Posted by: Beleck31 | January 3, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"Seniors are making appointments for FREE checkups effective Jan. 1 via Obamacare."

It's not free. Those docs are getting paid for the annual wellness exams. It's also politicized the screenings, unless you think the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force is immune from industry and/or advocacy group influence.

And that MLR regulation might not be all it's cracked up to be -- Maine, and a couple of other states, are seeking waivers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/30/AR2010123005032.html?sid=ST2010123100275

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"Democrats best argument against repeal is a discount on some drugs while a Medicare patient is in the donut hole?"

That's the best you can come up with?

Anybody else think this is a little, I don't know, weak?

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28,

So which member of the GOP is going to enjoy calling people and tell them, oh that health care you finally got after being denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition you cant have coverage anymore? I can tell you how many, NONE.

Posted by: rharring | January 3, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

the liberal left is running scared. Booze was outlawed for ten years or so so anything can be enacted or repealed.

Posted by: FLvet | January 3, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Support for full repeal of Obamacare is up past 60% now. The Democrats defy the will of America once again.

Maybe we can fix that in 2012.

Right now, the Senate is a house of cards for the hapless Obamacrats.

The census results and redistricting will help put an end to the Obamanation.

Obama is not the worst, one term president in history but he's not the best either.

Posted by: battleground51 | January 3, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

The one thing that disappoints me immensely about the health care law is that NOT ONE DEMOCRAT has ever explained what is in the law! The only way the American public will know is for the law to come into effect piecemeal over the next 3 years! Who signs a contract not knowing what is in it? Well that is what those Demo dummies did to us with Obamacare......what a pathetic joke on America

Posted by: hbw2000 | January 3, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"It's not free."

Free to seniors as was OBVIOUSLY the intent of the comment.

Feel free to support the policy of jacking up the price of checkups for old people after the new law takes effect.

Let us know how that works out for ya. (psst, did I mention that seniors are your only majority demographic left?)

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

So Harry Reid is saying that the Democrats will fight the people we voted for if those people try to repeal a healthcare reform no one wanted! Hmm! I say, BRING IT ON, DEMS! What arrogance. Leave my healthcare alone. If the Dems try anything, Harry and Company won't just be fighting the Republicans, he'll be fighting millions and millions of Americans who are sick and tired of arrogant liberals who think the rest of us are so stupid we can't make our own decisions!

Posted by: georges2 | January 3, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who uses the right wing talking point term "Obamacare" shouldn't be taken seriously. As the components of the healthcare bill start kicking in over the next few years, the GOP will have to scramble for new arguments. A recent news story indicates that there are now 50 million people in the US without health insurance, yet the GOP has NOTHING to offer them.

Posted by: filmnoia | January 3, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"One assumes Dems will make this case about other provisions in the law..."

Based on what evidence?

...Adding, I predict "Dems in disarray" coming soon as they struggle to keep the Nelson/Manchin wanker caucus from defecting in a filibuster reformed Senate (which I support), where the GOP only needs a handful of Dem wankers to prevail.

Posted by: SteveinSacto | January 3, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"Free to seniors as was OBVIOUSLY the intent of the comment."

It's not free to them either -- they are tax payers too.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

let the games begin.....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 3, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"Free to seniors as was OBVIOUSLY the intent of the comment."

It's not free to them either -- they are tax payers too.
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Here's an example of an argument that doesn't amount to squat.

Try taking away checkups from seniors, who are not paying anything EXTRA for them, and find out their reaction. Who wants to argue whether seniors will want to forego their checkups?

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 3, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

"It's not free to them either -- they are tax payers too. "

Fine NOVA. Tell us then.

What will the fee for a check-up be?

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

georges2: "who think the rest of us are so stupid we can't make our own decisions! "

Your post is evidence enough.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | January 3, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

When all else fails, make an emotional appeal. Here's a prefect example:
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So which member of the GOP is going to enjoy calling people and tell them, oh that health care you finally got after being denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition you cant have coverage anymore? I can tell you how many, NONE.
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and just exactly how many people have signed up for the special chronic illness risk pools?

do you really want to argue healthcare finance with me? I sure hope so because this is just too easy.

Basically what the liberal position boils down to is this: private property be damned, the liberals will sieze anything from anybody, including the profits of insurance companies to advance their notion of "social justice".

In this case the government deigns to tell private industry how much they can make and how thier money should be used. We are well on the road to serfdom. couple this arrogance with a greek chorus of well intentioned but misguided "Americans" who have no problem spending other people's money and giving up everybody's freedom and the problem we face becomes all the more daunting.

the issue is chronic illness and there is no doubt in my mind that the existing structure didn't accomodate this well. Should that result in a monstrosity like Obamacare? hardly.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 3, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Will every Republican member of the House, who avotes for to repeal Health Care Reform, refuse Government funded coverage for their own families?

I bet most of them will not, because that is how hypocritical Right Wing Politicians always behave, and they pay no price for it, because the Tea Party is composed of millions of Joe The Dumber clones.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Will every Republican member of the House, who votes for to repeal Health Care Reform, refuse Government funded coverage for their own families?

I bet most of them will not, because that is how hypocritical Right Wing Politicians always behave, and they pay no price for it, because the Tea Party is composed of millions of Joe The Dumber clones

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

the issue is chronic illness and there is no doubt in my mind that the existing structure didn't accomodate this well.
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Is this a marvel of understatement?

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 3, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

While Obamacare will likely not be repealed until Republicans take control of both the House and Senate, it will likely not be funded as all funding bills have to start in the House per the Constitution. No funding means no start of it. Significant parts of it are also being found unconstitutional by the courts. If it survives, it will be significantly different than the version passed under questionable legality.

Posted by: scott16 | January 3, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Here is a timeline for provisions to kick in, if anyone is interested:

http://healthreform.kff.org/timeline.aspx

Posted by: DinOH | January 3, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

So the Right Wingers want to return to the bad old days, when The Insurance Cabal, profiled premium paying members, and dropped them, if they profiled out as potential future cost risk!

What a great racket. Collect money, year after year from people, and then drop them, before any money has to be spend on providing health care for them.

The Republicans are promising to return the working classes to the bad old days, when The Insurance Cabal ran Death Panels, dedicated to taking money from healthy suckers, and dropping them, once they profiled out, as health risks to the Insurance Cabal's bottom lines.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

hbw2000 writes
"The only way the American public will know is for the law to come into effect piecemeal over the next 3 years!"


Well, the literate ones could read it, if they wanted to.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 3, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Here is a timeline for provisions to kick in, if anyone is interested:

http://healthreform.kff.org/timeline.aspx
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Where are the death panels? I don't see them.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 3, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"PS: Hey Boner: how does it feel to be led around by the nose like a camel by a bunch of 85-IQ Tea Totalers?"

85 is giving them too much credit.

"We do know that seniors now get something for nothing. We know slacker kids can now be covered."

God forbid old people should get 'something for nothing' -- except it isn't nothing because they have paid into the system their whole lives, knucklehead. Kids who can't get a job because of an economy crushed by Republican greed and deregulation = slackers, right.

The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of who will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn’t even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it.

Posted by: fiona5 | January 3, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"What will the fee for a check-up be?"

base price of $136.80.

but that's a base price for the CPT G0402, the new code for the initial wellness visit. various adjustments will be made based on locality, type of doctor, type of facility and "intensity" of the visit.

asking what the fee will be is like asking what a car will cost. lots of options and it depends on what else the doc is billing for on that particular visit.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I guess Greg Sargent doesn't have any homosexual articles to write today?


By the way, let me correct you Washington Post.


Washington Post version: Senate Dems to Boehner: We'll block your repeal push...


Reality version: Senate Dems to American people: We'll block your repeal push...


The American people elected the Republicans to REPLACE the uber-leftists in the House with the express charge of REPEALING that disgusting law.

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | January 3, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28 writes
"the issue is chronic illness and there is no doubt in my mind that the existing structure didn't accomodate this well. Should that result in a monstrosity like Obamacare? hardly."

The crux of the issue is that, as you've conceded, the market has failed to offer a solution to the chronic illness problem. When the market fails to solve a problem, that is when government needs to step in. If there's a superior alternative to the health care reform act passed last year, it should be put on the table. Funny thing, I don't see anyone - certainly nobody in the GOP leadership - offering an alternative. They're just playing partisan politics, trying to score points with this bogus attemt to repeal the law.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 3, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

All, my take on why Dems and liberals should welcome the GOP reading of the Constitution:

http://wapo.st/dUU8PJ

Posted by: Greg Sargent | January 3, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Anytime the defense is to turn to the American people, educate them about the consequences of an potential legislative action (repeal); how it will financially impact their wallet, and allowing them to fight the battle, is a good thing.

I don't like politicians. Particularly those who haven't much to offer besides partisan bickering, finger pointing and sensationalist commentary designed to do nothing more than stir their base in a hypnotic frenzy diverting their attention from the big picture.

The GOP has alot of work to do to shed the image of "just say no" politics. That boat will just not float when they are in the position of leadership. The country is still recovering from a GWB led economic collapse and record unemployment. Their constituents did not send them here, on the taxpayer dime to stand on the house floor and blow hot air all day while making no substantive progress.

Repeal is the wrong language to use when speaking about health care reform, a better term would be "improve". You cannot take away something that 'is' and replace it with 'nothing'.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | January 3, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, 12barblues is reduced to offering nothing more than harmless snark. How sad for that individual.

Liam-still has no rational argument to be made. Instead we are treated to a variation on the liberal standard "If you don't agree with us then you are in favor of loading babies into box cars with a pitchfork." Liam still's comment is an insulting lie but one must consider the source.

I have worked in healthcare finance my entire career, I have absolutely no experience with an insurance company "profiling" people out based on some new potential for claims submission.

In fact the more liberals rail against the insurance industry the more they prove that regulation always fails. Virtually every state in the union has some regulatory body charged with monitoring the practices of the industry. Were the insurance firms doing what folks like Liam-still allege, then the question must be asked: why did existing regulation fail? And if the existing regulation failed why should any rational person believe that new regulation will succeed in its place?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 3, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Are The Boehnerites going to repeal The Prescription Drug bill, that they passed under GWB, and never paid for? It added trillions to the national debt. Remember how they included a requirement that prohibited Medicare from negotiating bulk price reductions on drugs for seniors.

Are the senior not tax payers, when Republicans add trillions to the national debt, in order to deliver a massive windfall to Big PHARMA, and only tax payers when Democrats provide better health care coverage for them? Hmmmmmm.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing,

Well you have just bitten off more than you can chew, and let me show you why, you say:

"Basically what the liberal position boils down to is this: private property be damned, the liberals will sieze anything from anybody, including the profits of insurance companies to advance their notion of "social justice".

First off our Governor Rick Perry has tried for 3 years to use eminent domain on several Texas farmers to build a rail line. Also the SMU board under GOP leaders used eminent domain to take over condiminiums for the George W. Bush Presidential Library. So much for your argument that only liberals take others property.

And on Insurance profits, you feel that their profits outrank the quality of health care they should be providing to their customers? In the 60's-80's most if not all Insurance companies were NON PROFIT, now a majority like Aetna are traded on Wall Street, which means they are only after their bottom line not taking care of their constituents.

There was a story in the Ft. Worth Star Telegram the week that the uninsured with pre-existing conditions finally got health care, the story focused on a 26 year old man who had been horribly disfigured in an electrical accident, for the first time since the accident he now has insurance. Doesnt matter the number who have taken advantage, what should have bothered you and the GOP but never did is that our fellow Americans can now obtain insurance. Leave it to a GOP supporter to support the business side of this argument.......

Posted by: rharring | January 3, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

12barblues asks
"Where are the death panels? I don't see them."

That is by design. I heard those 'free checkups' are really meant to establish a baseline for the death panels. When they do the 'blood draw' they're really inserting a time-delay chip that lodges itslef in the patient's carotid artery. Unless they can escape new york - with the President!

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 3, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Skippy,The Foaming At The Mouth Right Wing Mascot, can not handle the truth, so I will tell it again:

Right Wingers want to return to the bad old days, when The Insurance Cabal, profiled premium paying members, and dropped them, if they profiled out as potential future cost risk!

What a great racket. Collect money, year after year from people, and then drop them, before any money has to be spend on providing health care for them.

The Republicans are promising to return the working classes to the bad old days, when The Insurance Cabal ran Death Panels, dedicated to taking money from healthy suckers, and dropping them, once they profiled out, as health risks to the Insurance Cabal's bottom lines.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

So if something fails, you don't try to make it better, you just give up and allow corporations to continue to abuse people. That's the 'conservative' way.

Posted by: fiona5 | January 3, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Its telling about the size and scope of what is called Healthcare reform when you say "More when I learn it" The law is so large and it will be the bureucrats who reduce it to regulation. By then all of it will be too difficult to adjust. We don't need to repeal it, just amend it.

Posted by: tdressler | January 3, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"formerdemocrat" is a paid shill for a conservative think tank here in DC. If you notice he appears every day on every blog, no matter the subject. And sometimes he is there all day.
Just a heads up to those who care about the truth.

Posted by: easysoul | January 3, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Essentially everything the wingers are doing is designed to take the US back about 200 years, when there was little decent medical care except for the rich, when there were no workplace safety standards, no child labor laws, no provisions for clean air or water, no services and no middle class. All they care about is the Galtian overlords they serve, whose interests they place above their own families.

Posted by: fiona5 | January 3, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Top Ten congressional recipients of HMO money in 2010:

1 Schumer, Charles E (D-NY) $198,100
2 Reid, Harry (D-NV) $196,800
3 Lincoln, Blanche (D-AR) Senate $195,400
4 Crist, Charlie (I-FL) $136,934
5 Grassley, Chuck (R-IA) $129,000
6 Hoyer, Steny H (D-MD) $110,150
7 Waxman, Henry A (D-CA) $107,450
8 Blunt, Roy (R-MO) $105,300
9 Meek, Kendrick B (D-FL) $100,325
10 Camp, Dave (R-MI) $99,600

source: open secrets
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=H03++&goButt2.x=10&goButt2.y=9&goButt2=Submit

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

The lunatic-left d-crat socialists will continue to spit in the faces of Americans until they are removed from office.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | January 3, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Will All The House Boehnerites give up their government provided Health Care coverage?

I bet they will not, and all the Tea Party, Joe The Dumber clones, will still not figure out, that they have been played for a bunch of of Stupid Koch Suckers by Dick Armey.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

"The lunatic-left d-crat socialists will continue to spit in the faces of Americans until they are removed from office.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot |"

oh look, someone left a bag of dog feces on the blog.

Posted by: fiona5 | January 3, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Greg Sargent,

Considering that the GOP let their GOP President slide when he broke no less than 3 constitutional amendments while in office, your comment is a moot point. Because if they cant follow the constitution then they wont now....

Posted by: rharring | January 3, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Nothing brings out the ill-informed like the topic of health care reform. Take, for example, the House Republicans who believe they can repeal it because they have a majority. Apparently they don't understand that a repeal bill would have to get through the Senate, in which Democrats retain a majority, before President Obama could veto it.
Health care is a Republican wedge issue. They like to tell people that they're victims of the big bad government, but they won't remind you that legislators generally pass laws that they believe have their constituents' support.

Posted by: amstphd | January 3, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

NoVA,

"For the first time, the 45 million seniors on Medicare can get free annual physicals. No more co-payments. They'll get free screenings for diabetes and cancer. That includes mammograms and colonoscopies."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/31/eveningnews/main7201599.shtml

Go ahead and TRY ripping free physicals and screenings away from your only majority demographic. I sincerely look forward to that. Have fun.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

In a Republican controlled House, just haul all the "experts" who created ObamaCare before Congress to explain the horrors of their creation. Simple fix.

Posted by: ROTHNH | January 3, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the AMA in the 60's was the GOP of today, check out this passage and see if some of the buzzwords used in the 60's dont sound familiar now:

"By the 1960s, the system of private health insurance in the United States was well established. In 1958, nearly 75 percent of Americans had some form of private health insurance coverage. By helping to implement a successful system of voluntary health insurance plans, the medical profession had staved off the government intervention and nationalized insurance that it had feared since the 1910s. In addition to ensuring that private citizens had access to voluntary coverage, the AMA also was a vocal opponent of any nationalized health insurance programs, suggesting that such proposals were socialistic and would interfere with physician income and the doctor-patient relationship. The AMA had played a significant role in defeating proposals for nationalized health insurance in 1935 (under the Social Security Act) and later in defeating the proposed Murray-Wagner-Dingell (MWD) bill in 1949. The MWD bill would have provided comprehensive nationalized health insurance to all Americans. To ensure the defeat of the proposal, the AMA charged every physician who was a member $25 for their lobbying efforts (Marmor 2000)."

Posted by: rharring | January 3, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Good afternoon,

How many Democratic Senators signed the letter? And how many of them will be candidates in 2012?

take care

Posted by: LulingRanchers | January 3, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"In a Republican controlled House, just haul all the "experts" who created ObamaCare before Congress to explain the horrors of their creation."

We've already had hearings. What's the point? Oh right. Partisan theatrics. A big ol' GOP hissy fit while the country's other problems -- ahem JOBS -- are allowed to fester by the GOP House leadership. Heckuva job. Way to have your finger on the pulse as usual.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

DUH the progessive dems still refuse to accept that the american public did not want their healthcare bill and other leislative agenia. voters voted them out of office by landslide for it . well pelosi -reid and obama will finsih destroying what now is called the dem party in 2012.

Posted by: dagner49 | January 3, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Let's look at the true "cost" of the Health Care Bill vs. its "benefits." There are alternatives which would include the positives like the reduction of cost of 'scrips for seniors in the "donut hole" while enabling those of us who choose purchase coverage to cross state lines to do so. The negotiation of drug prices for seniors is a completely separate issue. The choice to carry, or not carry, health care coverage is, in no way, that of a government agency. It's time for the Republicans to bring fort an alternate plan which will get the government out of our lives. The Democrats have stepped way, way over the line this time. . .and they are about to find out the "cost" to them. November 2012 is sooner than they think!

Posted by: lou4747A | January 3, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Democrats and the President will call their bluff. It's not Obamacare, it's Congress Care because every congressman and Senator assisted in the passage of this law. Insurance companies and banks are supposed to provide a fiduciary function for the American public. They have failed and have combined in some instances to gain more power and control of Congress. Texas is a great example of how they have corrupted the state house and Governorship. Idiots. Pass laws that will generate jobs. We want Jobs, not gridlock. Constrain the corporations that continue to funnel jobs out of country. Reward companies and small businesses that generate jobs here in America. The Re-Wrong party acts like they want to continues to fight the president on every issue. We want jobs here in America. The U.S Chamber of Congress has not done their job. The EPA has taken over the issuance of permits in Texas resulting from the continued political posturing by Perry, the career politician. Two federal courts have sided with the EPA and thus all but a few mege-corporations have changed their stance and will comply with Federal regulations. Now these companies that have failed to comply with federal regulation will comply and their pockets will fund the new compliance's instead of the American taxpayers. Relaxing of federal rules and regulations will turn loose the production of even more greenhouse gases on the world. This may be one way to generate more jobs. Hey, Boehner and McConnell, work on generating new jobs in America. We need jobs for those who want to work. Do it now!! Stop being the party of "NO"!!!

Posted by: radsenior | January 3, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The GOP seems to think that people like the "freedom" to go bankrupt due to medical problems, that people love being "free" to be denied health insurance claims during chemotherapy and other life-saving procedures, and that parents just love the "freedom" of not being able to afford insurance for their sick children.

Apparently, the Republicans think people love being screwed over by the health insurance industry, with the GOP thinking that most voters feel corporations and industries have either far too little, or not enough, influence on our political system.

So just how will the Republicans do right by consumers, patients, policy-holders and small investors absent Govt. regulations?

Trick question, the GOP won't look out for those interests as the party thinks the Constitution protects rapacious corporations and out-of-control industries far more than it does "we the people".

The other thing the GOP does, every single time it achieves REAL power, is to drastically overreach, believing it's extremist agendas play well with the voters, then wonder why it gets slapped down by those same voters, HARD.

The GOP interfered in Terri Schiavo's life & death, it pandered to the anti-Castro crowd in Florida by pushing to keep Elian Gonzalez away from his father, based solely on where his father lives, and the party pushed to eliminate the minimum wage laws for the Gulf Coast's clean up and reconstruction after Hurricane Katrina.

In each case, the Republicans ended up slinking away with their tails tucked between their legs.

Shutting down the government and impeaching Slick Clinton didn't do wonders for the Republicans either, especially as the impeachment actually cost the GOP two Speakers of the House, while the public rallied around the President.

The teabaggers insist on impeaching Obama, so will the House GOP leadership pander to it's irrationally irate knuckle-dragging base, or will the incoming leadership take a page from Nancy Pelosi's playbook-when us libs wanted Bush Jr removed from office-and firmly state that "impeachment is off the table"?

Go for it GOP, push for more of the Bush Jr policies that cost y'all the House in 2006 and Senate in 2008, do so proudly and loudly, and if the US really is a "center-right" country, then the Republicans will pick up even more seats come 2012.

Posted by: kingcranky | January 3, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

good afternoon,

Please...the letter is signed only by the Democratic leadership...all five Senators! I wonder how many of their colleagues would sign the same letter, or were even given the opportunity, especially those who will be running for reelection in 2012.

take care

Posted by: LulingRanchers | January 3, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Reponse to Angie 12106 at 2:15:
1. Benefit? Free Checkups for seniors effective 1-1-2011. There is a cost associated with free checkups. While we are all for preventiative medicine, someone ultimately pays for anything called "free."

2. Benefit? Kids covered to age 26.
There is a premium cost associated with children on policies. It is not a requirement of a company providing benefits to subsidize the cost for the employee. So the insurer gets more money from an age group of people that are low on the illness list.

3. Benefit? Policyholder cannot get cancelled when they become sick. There is a premium cost associated with providing continued coverage for ill policyholders, who generally get cancelled because they ultimately lose their jobs for run out of FMLA and cannot afford to make the monthly premiums; even under COBRA the insured pays the unsubsidized cost. Its not about being cancelled because they're sick. Its because they couldn't pay the premium.

4. Benefit? No Maximum Lifetime benefit. There is a premium cost associated with no Lifetime benefit limit. No one would provide unlimited benefits without charging something for the unknown.

5.Benefit? Insurance companies cannot deny pre-existing conditions in children. There is a premium cost associated with covering pre-existing conditions in children. We are all for providing healthcare for all children.

Summary: We had a 2500 page healthcare bill shoved down our throats last year. While all of the initiatives appear to be notable they are not without cost. Unfortunately the whole bill did nothing to address cost. When the government adds 30 million people to healthcare roles, the medical community will be overcome. In addition the government programs do not pay enough to sustain a high level of care. This will lead to lack of medical providers, which in turn will lead to medical rationing. All at a higher cost. Let's read between the lines. This and prior congresses were merely looking for a way to allow Medicare to continue as a bankrupt program for another 10-15 years. Obamacare is a boondoggle that will bankrupt the country.

Posted by: tdressler | January 3, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Please I want one good reason, that a young person with diabetes, hemophilia, cancer or anything other genetic, chronic or catastrophic illness shouldn't stay on his or her parents insurance. Please give me one. My kid is not a slacker as some ahole on here said, I am relieved that I can cover her if she is sick.

Posted by: jmr1601 | January 3, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I hear the sound of the Obamas packing for their return to Chicago.

Posted by: joee4 | January 3, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Please I want one good reason, that a young person with diabetes, hemophilia, cancer or anything other genetic, chronic or catastrophic illness shouldn't stay on his or her parents insurance. Please give me one. My kid is not a slacker as some ahole on here said, I am relieved that I can cover her if she is sick.

Posted by: jmr1601 | January 3, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

A Reality Check;

For all you Tea Party, Joe The Dumber clones;

Harry Reid decides what legislation will be brought up for a vote, in the Senate, so The House Boehnerites are just toying with your emotions. Repeal will never see the light of day in this Senate.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Per usual, Democrats are short sighted. Republicans have never discounted parts of the healthcare bill, such as pre-existing conditions or protection against dropping existing insured when sick, to name two.

The Republican intent is too eliminate all to get rid of the damaging majority of this 2700 page debacle, then enact a much more sensible, less costly new healthcare legislation that will appeal to the MAJORITY rather than a minority of Americans. Public opinion of this boondoggle has deteriorated from its net negative support at passage, rather than grown as predicted by Democrats at passage.

Sargent fails to recognize the bitterness of the AMERICAN PEOPLE over both the passed legislation and the way it was done by the majority congressional Democrats. He also fails to print the Republican alternative, leaving a reader to believe the good parts of the existing legislation will be gone forever. Not true.

Posted by: bbwk80a | January 3, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

'It's time for the Republicans to bring fort an alternate plan which will get the government out of our lives"

they've had years, and they have no intention of doing so. have you really not figured out they are in DC to represent corporate interests, not voters? they want insurance companies to be able to dump people who get sick, it's that simple. i really feel sorry for people who would rather live in a plutocracy with rich unelected CEOs running their lives instead of wanting to live in a democracy with officials they elected themselves.

Rightwingers really hate democracy and want to see it destroyed.

Posted by: fiona5 | January 3, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing wrote: I have absolutely no experience with an insurance company "profiling" people out based on some new potential for claims submission.
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You sure don't know much about real life people and insurance companies, then, do you. Millions of people know a lot about having their insurance cancelled when they had claims or being denied insurance because they might have claims.

I thought you said you were an expert!

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | January 3, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Republicans better watch out. Your lies and corporate friends will be exposed. There are many who feel the GOP hypocracy has no limits. If they fight for their own government-run healthcare but don't want it for others, this will get folks asking questions. Good!! It's time to wake up the masses to truth and reality. Obamacare is GOOD for Americans. It's nothing more than what these elected officials get. Polling shows once they learn the truth, the public supports it. THOSE WHO KNOW (the truth) WILL SPEAK UP AND SUPPORT HEALTHCARE. Shame on the Republicans for wasting time on this. IT WILL GO NOWHERE!! Government-run healthcare...OH MY. Just remind those on Medicare and VA services these are government-run healthcare services. Tell more aging Americans it's like Medicare...they like it. Veterans...like what they get as well. Maybe folks will learn that "Single-payer" or the "Public option" is something they want to add. We will stick up for this President, too. The GOP will look like fools if they continue to go after him instead of helping the economy, environment, food safety, worker's rights and helping the middle-class. Keep giving the wealthy and your corporate friends tax breaks while burdening the working Americans we'll see how this goes. You can't complain about the deficit after what you did last month. Holding the unemployed and 9/11 first responders hostage won't be forgotten.

NOTE TO THE GOP: Social Security and other programs you want to give to your corporate friends plus attacks on President Obama...these will be your undoing.

Posted by: Justice4all5 | January 3, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

get rid of the dems in 2012. don't back off. shut em down.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | January 3, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

It's high time for Dems to start kicking the excrement out of right-wing assets!

Posted by: analyst72 | January 3, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Starting on Saturday, Baby Boomers begin turning 65 and qualifying for Medicare — one every eight seconds. A record 2.8 million will qualify in 2011, rising to 4.2 million a year by 2030, projections show. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-12-30-medicare30_ST_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

So, 2.8 million at a cost of at least $136 each = "free"

You're not paying attention. I'm not arguing that it makes for good politics. I'm just saying that it's not free. I wish both sides would be honest about it. Dems running around screaming "free" health care isn't helping or even remotely true.

But sure, campaigning on eliminating a new benefit for seniors is unlikely to secure many of their votes. Dems should have some pride and say, this benefit is costing the Medicare program significantly, but we think it's worth it because of X, Y and Z. but they won't do that either -- because they are equally gutless.

also, i think I've been pretty clear about my opposition to the wars, bailouts, security over-reach/abuse, and support for DADT repeal. And you think I'm GOP?

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

How do you get the notion that corporate America continues to get rich and we get the shaft? If you pay $4,000 or $8,000 annul premiums for a whole health care package and you go into the hospital for [2] days it will cost more than your premiums. The way to reduce costs is to reduce the number of people on medicaid, who abuse the system. I went to the ER one day and I was the only white man there out of 50 people. Who were those 38,000,000 uninsured Obama said would get coverage; 30,000,000 have been pushed into medicaid, what kind of number spinning is going on here?

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"I hear the sound of the Obamas packing for their return to Chicago."

Do they have a layover there on the way back to the White House from Hawaii?

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 3, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

65% of We the People have already seen the costs begin to rise;; only nimrods looking for a free ride [which it is NOT] want to continue down the wrong path to real reform. It was a marxist power grab get over it.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

bbwk80a writes
"The Republican intent is too eliminate all to get rid of the damaging majority of this 2700 page debacle, then enact a much more sensible, less costly new healthcare legislation that will appeal to the MAJORITY rather than a minority of Americans."


where is this plan? I would expect a vote to repeal a bad plan would be much easier to win, if you have a better alternative to offer in its place.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | January 3, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Have the "new" House Members as well as the "old" House Members forgotten that the President of the US has the VETO. Of course, it can always go back to the Congress and be over ruled, but what fun for the next two years. Is that really wise of the Republicans?
AND, here we go again. Bring it on!

Posted by: mcdonalsherry | January 3, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I agree. When adults up to 27 see that tehy dont have to worry about hc payments, they will be the first to jump ship from the GOP, when employers begin to see that they dont have to offer their young emploee hc b/c he or she are on their parents plan, they will see the benefits. When hospital emergency rooms dont have to worry about people 27 and under, coming no coverage to get service is a thing of the past, they will change their practices as they know they it will help. When seniors realize the savings on medication, they defnitetly will be see the light. When employers see a healthier workforce b/c prevention of chronic diseass and so forth were prevented due to folks having health care and using at a young age, they will thank the Dems and Obama. We will see new industries created as a result of this plan. I hope Dems are creative in explaining to the public the benefits of this plan.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | January 3, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

This forgery was perpetrated on the American people by Pelosi and Reid by not allowing ANY REPUBLICAN input or amendments;; NOW WE [CONSERVATIVES] will get to do our part by defunding this TURKEY; HARRY REID MY A--; THE HOUSE CONTROLS THE MONEYS DUFUS.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"I wish both sides would be honest about it."

You want both sides to be honest?

Really?

How about, for starters, YOU be honest about it.

FREE = NO CO-PAYS

Any more complaining out of you proves that you don't give a d@mn about honesty.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I've got news for the extremist Republican party:


Now that you have some actual power again (the House) you won't be able to get away with spending all of your time throwing verbal bombs at the Dems, going golfing at the country club and then hitting the DC cocktail circuit at night every day. You either CREATE JOBS or you will be gone in 2012 so fast that your heads will spin.


Chop chop, Repugs!


You've got two years!


Time's a wastin'!

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Posted by: DrainYou | January 3, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Here is what is missing from the letter:
P.S. If you don't back down on this quest to repeal Obamacare we will appear en masse on the Sunday talking head shows and denounce you as racists.


Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 3, 2011 1:49 PM

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

And as usual, the only one to bring up racism is a person who is probably a racist.

Last I knew, senior citizens come in all colors, races, religions and ethnicity. I would bet that people needing access to affordable health care are also of all races, religion and ethnicity.

I think that most Americans who don't want health care reform repealed would be more likely to call those that want it repealed selfish, inconsiderate, intolerant and greedy. I doubt very seriously if anyone other than Obama haters would try and make this a racist issues such as you have tried to do.

Posted by: catmomtx | January 3, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

tHIS OBLIGATORY disaster was written by the [APOLLO ALLIANCE] a social unrest organization funded George "the Marxist" Soros. No person in their right mind believes any part of this mistake is true. Obama has lied and all you blue KOOL-AID drinkers are lemmings running off the cliff.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

It will be fun to watch the GOP try to enact this repeal. The GOP doesn't get it. The polls indeed show that a bare majority is against the health care reform, but if you analyze the data, at least 30% of those who oppose are opposed because the reform didn't go far enough.

It will be fun to watch the GOP try to take away doing away with pre-existing ilness exclusions, with the requirement that health insurers spend 80% of what they receive as premiums on the patients themselves not on exorbitant profits, with the rollback of the doughnut hole, and a whole lot of the other provisions in the health care law.

It is not just the Senate Democrats who will keep the bulk of the bill from being repealed, it is the voters.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | January 3, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"Chop chop, Repugs!


You've got two years!


Time's a wastin'!"

Yeah and WHERE ARE THE JOBS, BONER?

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

yUO ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT; oBAMA AND THE sENATE CAN KICK AND SCREAM AND IT WILL ALL BE IN THE OPEN SO ALL aMERICANS CAN JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES IN 2010. It is called BEING ON THE RECORD; The next election will be jusy like 2010 good bye libs. I have been on several different group plans over the years and ONE LIE that is really offensive to me is the PREEXISTING CONDITION CRAP; you are never denied coverage you are told there is a waiting period before that condition is covered. It is [6] months sometimes it is a year; so quit lying you libnuts.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

A neighbor of mine rants about Obamacare, then goes off to the VA for his free medical care. The 'ol "I deserve mine but you don't deserve yours mentality."

Bring it on Weepy.

Posted by: willisforrester | January 3, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Why does the author, Greg Sargent, find the democrats plan encouraging? He states:
"More when I learn it, but for now, this is moderately encouraging." I guess it is because he is biased. Maybe a biased reporter should be restricted to writing about topics he is not emotional about!

Anyway, as long as the Democrats keep appealing to the worst in people (increased benefits for the few i the donut hole at the cost of big bucks to other people), I think they will lose the argument. We the people want cost control in health care--without cutting services. Costs should be negotiated down with insurance companies, healthcare providers and the pharma and other medical industries, who appear to be getting rich off of sick people. Cost-cutting went missing from Obamacare, and that is why people favor repeal.

Posted by: tina5 | January 3, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

And as usual, the only one to bring up racism is a person who is probably a racist.

Last I knew, senior citizens come in all colors, races, religions and ethnicity. I would bet that people needing access to affordable health care are also of all races, religion and ethnicity.

I think that most Americans who don't want health care reform repealed would be more likely to call those that want it repealed selfish, inconsiderate, intolerant and greedy. I doubt very seriously if anyone other than Obama haters would try and make this a racist issues such as you have tried to do.

Posted by: catmomtx | January 3, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

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Amen! In addition, there are more white seniors than their are black people in this country. This notion that the HC bill is strictly an entitlement that benefits minorities is a fallacy.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | January 3, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

OBLIGATORY disaster was written by the [APOLLO ALLIANCE] a social unrest organization funded George "the Marxist" Soros. No person in their right mind believes any part of this mistake is true. Obama has lied and all you blue KOOL-AID drinkers are lemmings running off the cliff.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

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Your response is proof that foxnews never ever presents the truth to its viewers.

Did you forgot. Many amendments in the HC were GOP. Senate and House GOP members and OBama held a 8 hour public meeting on HC. I bet you knew that. Did you also know three GOP Senators voted for the Bill. Did you also knew that the Bill was publically availableon the HOuse and Senate website for the public view prior to voting. Did you also know that the bill was not written by the Obama Administration but by House and Senate Dems who tried desperately to get GOP members involved. I know you didnt know none of this thats why No ? was shown in my post.

Posted by: Sincear2021 | January 3, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I love the talk about how wonderful this health care bill is but no one really knows what is in it. We do know that seniors now get something for nothing which means young people will foot the bill, yet again. Posted by: mmourges | January 3, 2011 2:27 PM

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I love how people like you assume they are so much smarter than everyone else. People do know what is in the health care bill. At least those that don't know wait for others to tell them what to believe. Those on Medicare definitely know what their benefits will be. They worked very hard to have those benefits when they retired. People on Medicare pay a monthly premium. They also pay deductibles and co-pays when required, just like everyone else who has medical coverage.

It is really sad to see how selfish some people can be, whining about the nerve of having to foot the bill for people who helped make this country. You should be so lucky because if your attitude is like that, I would hate to see the selfish children you raise. Better be careful though because if Republicans get their way you will be paying for all of your parents cost to live out their lives. I mean if Republicans are able to privatize Social Security and do away with Medicare, Medicaid and the other safety nets that leaves you to pay your parents nursing home bills, the cost of their medications and medical care. I'm just sayin......

Posted by: catmomtx | January 3, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"FREE = NO CO-PAYS Any more complaining out of you proves that you don't give a d@mn about honesty."

Free does not equal no co-payments. There is a cost associated with this new benefit and those docs will not provide it for long if they don't get paid. Both parties would do everyone a big favor if they were upfront about it.


Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

tina5 writes
"We the people want cost control in health care--without cutting services."


And tax cuts without spending cuts. And higher pay with shorter working hours. And cake and ice cream without getting fat.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 3, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

so i guess the main argument is that people will be mad if their handouts are taken away from them. it's hard to buy off the american public. good luck dems and as always im impressed by the intellectual gutter you're stuck in

Posted by: batigol85 | January 3, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

MMOURGES, so when I lost my job, and my son had to drop out of college because I could no longer afford the tuition, my son became a ‘slacker’. Now that I am back to work at half of what I use to make, with no real benefits, and my son is going to community college part time, because that is all we can afford, my son is a ‘slacker’!

Man, you have to love the ‘compassion’ from some people. I guess this is the ‘compassionate conservatism’ that we get from 'True Americans'.

No benefits when you work part time through staffing firms, but I am working. I am paying an enormous amount each month so my family can have health insurance, no Medicaid or Medicare for us. What are you paying?

For your sake, I hope you are never in the position my family and I are in. And if you ever are, I hope you meet more compassionate people than you.

Posted by: hanfb | January 3, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

And more unpaid for stupid invasions of countries that had not attacked us, because things turned out so well, in Iraq. Just ask the Iraqi Christians, if you can find any of them left there.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Dems have the high ground. Republicans want to: Re-open the doughnut hole for seniors; allow insurance companies to resume barring kids with pre-existing condidtions; kick young adults up to 26 off their parents' coverage --- all this on the heels of INSISTING on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. Good luck!

Posted by: mypitts2 | January 3, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry bunch of losers ..these Republicans are only interested in helping those who help them with campaign contributions.. they are not willing to show any compassion for those who are the most needy in this country. Shame on them..and Americans better get wise and stop voting against their own best interest.. because somehow they think that someone who is economically below them on the "wealth scale" is going to somehow take something away from them ..when we are all in this together.. when the Republicans are in power we all lose.

Posted by: sabrina2 | January 3, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse


Block away Dims, block away, Obamacare is what cost you six seats in the Senate eight weeks ago. Get those votes on record. There are currently 12 Dims up for re-election next year from states that just sent a Republican majority to the House.

By the way Dims, all the House has to do to kill Obamacare is refuse to fund Obamacare and the thing withers on the vine. Repeal in the House makes a strong positive statement to the voters that just elected the GOP to a 63 seat majority.


Posted by: screwjob23 | January 3, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

NoVaHockey writes
"Free does not equal no co-payments. There is a cost associated with this new benefit and those docs will not provide it for long if they don't get paid."

It has already been clarified that angie's use of the word 'free' referred to the patient. As you've already posted, the doctors do get paid, so the service is rendered for payment; its just that the patient isn't the entity making the payment. While it sounds like another government handout, the goal is to get people to the doctor for preventative care before problems become more expensive to treat. You might make an argument that such a strategy is bad for some reason, but instead you're hung up on the use of the word 'free'. Why?

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 3, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I've been Huckstered once too often by Dear Leader (the Huckster and Chief) and his minions, Reid and Pelosi, to believe anything a Democrat says or writes.

Posted by: JAH3 | January 3, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I strongly support the new health law, and I wish that it had gone further.

Posted by: lindalovejones | January 3, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

"... as much as $12,300 over the next 10 years and seniors with low drug costs will save an average of $2,400 over 10 years."

And guess who pays for this? The rest of America. You think it's free? Someone pays for it and it's the healthy people who work and buy insurance. Why should I pay more for you and yours? I have my own family to pay for.

Posted by: r_leever | January 3, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

So, the Democrats best argument against repeal is a discount on some drugs while a Medicare patient is in the "donut hole?"

Anybody else think this is a little, I don't know, weak?

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | January 3, 2011 2:29 PM
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Obviously you don't know much about Part D Medicare, prescription coverage. The people who are on Medicare Part D don't pay co-pays for their medications like most people who have insurance. They get discounts. They can get some of their medications for $4-$10.00 dollars but many of their prescriptions can cost several hundreds of dollars. You still have Medicare recipients paying $400 a month for their prescriptions and this is with the supposed discounts from Part D. Then the donut hole comes into play and now even though they continue to pay premiums, they get NO help with their drug cost. So, now that $400.00 a month goes to $700. By the way, an insurance plan can drop a drug at any time forcing the senior to pay full cost for it. The senior can only make a change in their plan once a year Nov. 15-Dec. 31. The plans are so complicated that most seniors can't handle it. Oh, and very few of the seniors reach the catastrophic coverage where they get their drugs free. Most reach it in Dec., after they have purchased their last drugs. Then, guess what the cycle starts all over again. This is the Medicare Part D prescription plan unpaid for and without the ability for the plans to negotiate the cost of the drugs, given to the American citizens by the Republicans and George Bush.

Posted by: catmomtx | January 3, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Earth to the aptly-named "ScrewJob23" and the other ignoramuses who keep proclaiming their absolute ignorance about so-called "Obama-care:"

It's a direct copy of REPUBLICAN health care, created by Republican Governor Mitt Romney for Massachusetts and it works very well, thank you.

The only "death panels" we have are twenty-something chippies at insurance companies who look in a Code Book and decide whether or not you can have some life-saving treatment. The companies stall, put off and delay, hoping you'll die before they have to pay.

Stuart Carlson's editorial cartoon says it all beautifully: http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/sc/

Posted by: commonsense101 | January 3, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

TO: JAH3 who wrote:
“I've been Huckstered once too often by Dear Leader (the Huckster and Chief) and his minions, Reid and Pelosi, to believe anything a Democrat says or writes.”

Says one Republican who has no recollection whatsoever of the years 2000 through 2008.

When asked “who was POTUS from 2000 to 2008” JAH simply says: “I dunno.”


Posted by: lindalovejones | January 3, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"I think that the Democrats are in a bit of pickle with this. If they fight hard the issue stays on the public's mind and they will remember why they voted as they did last November."

So you're saying that seniors and the poor voted Republican to overthrow "Obamacare"?

So what's the worst that will happen? They have already voted Republican. You think that those who voted Democrat in 2010 will vote Republican in 2012?

Posted by: tokenwhitemale | January 3, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

The Right Wingers never get hung up on the word: "Free", when it applies to the farce known as "Free Trade", which is neither free, or more importantly; "Fair Trade".

Places like China get to take most of our manufacturing capacity, sell the consumer goods to us, that our workers used to produce; then lend us back the money we pay for their expots, so that we can pay them interest on it, and spend it on more of the imported goods, that we used to manufacture.

"Free" indeed. More like Sucker Trade, and self inflicted Industrial Power suicide.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Republicans are already getting the "threats" from the rich insurance giants that contribute so much to their re-elections. Someday, maybe someday, the general public will figure out that the Republicans work for the RICH and only the RICH. They won't stop until they get rid of social security and medicare.

Posted by: pgmichigan | January 3, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

@scott16
"...the version passed under questionable legality."

Am I right to assume that you refer to the use of reconciliation process to get around filibuster threat in the Senate after Scott Brown election voided Democratic supermajority? If so, it's legality is not questionable at all, it is within rules of the Congress.

Filibuster originates from the right of every member of Congress to participate in the debate. Many would agree that this does not mean that 41 senators (which in theory may represent as little as 12% of the population) should be allowed to prevent the majority from adopting legislation. House rules have limited the debate as the legislative body grew in size, and so perhaps should the Senate. The point is that use of filibuster itself is of questionable constitutionality - those interested shall review the arguments behind the constitutional/nuclear option as it pertains to rule xxii (which unconstitutionally imposed the will of the 65th congress on any future congress).

Curiously, republicans were on a different side of this debate when democrats dared to hold up four judicial nominations. While it is in the nature of a politician to be hypocritical, you sir don't have to be. So please, next time you are tempted to question the legality of the reconciliation process used to pass a particular piece of legislation you personally don't like, fight the temptation. Because otherwise it may be pointed out to you that some other legislation you may like was passed via the same mechanism. Such as Bush era tax cuts that reduced federal revenues by more than 2.5 trillion dollars (and let me remind you that the republican knights of fiscal responsibility conveniently forgot to balance these by corresponding spending cuts).

As for court decisions, you shouldn't be using plurality - so far only one judge ruled the law unconstitutional, and only one element of it - the insurance mandate. It's going to SCOTUS eventually. I just wish that attorneys general who file such suits also pay attention to the fact that states they are from (except, of course, New Hampshire) require citizens to buy car insurance. Well, guess property is more important to them than life.

Posted by: firebug2 | January 3, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Any time "Dems", and "aggressive response" are linked...is a good thing.

Posted by: CTVoter | January 3, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

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Agreed. A rare thing, but a good thing.

Posted by: mypitts2 | January 3, 2011 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Free does not equal no co-payments."

NoVA,

When we are saying "FREE CHECK-UPS" we mean that there are NO CO-PAYS. That is what I posted. That is what I meant.

If you don't or can't understand this truly elementary concept, then what the heck are you even doing posting here?

There are NO CO-PAYS for Seniors now, thanks to the Democratic Party and President Barack Obama. That is the subject of this "debate" and it is a FACT, whether you like it or not, NoVA.

"Both parties would do everyone a big favor if they were upfront about it."

What should the Republican Party be upfront about? I'd like to hear your "even-handed" thoughts, since you apparently are going out of your way to imply that "both parties" need to be "upfront" about health care reform.

So let's hear your take on what the GOP should be "upfront" about.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

P.S. If you don't back down on this quest to repeal Obamacare we will appear en masse on the Sunday talking head shows and denounce you as racists.

Posted by: skipsailing28

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I like how conservatives will be the first to bring up race then accuse Democrats of playing the race card. Where was race mentioned anywhere? This article is more about seniors and the doughnut hole. Or do you think all older people are black?

Posted by: mypitts2 | January 3, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

And just so you understand and don't attack me for semantics...

By:

"NO CO-PAYS for Seniors now"

I mean:

"NO CO-PAYS for checkups, physicals, and screenings for Seniors now"

I hate having to explain every little thing to you Republicans. Wake up.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"While it sounds like another government handout, the goal is to get people to the doctor for preventative care before problems become more expensive to treat. You might make an argument that such a strategy is bad for some reason, but instead you're hung up on the use of the word 'free'. Why?"

Well, unless I'm completely misreading him, Ethan seems to think that pointing that out is some sort of heresy.

And i do think it's a bad policy. It's potentially great for the individual, but as far as saving costs for the long run, research is mixed. Sometimes it absolutely saves in the long run. Others, it doesn't. You end of screening and testing people who never would have gotten sick.

I also think it's bad policy because of this debate we've been having. it's been characterized by it's backers as "free." when prevention as a cost savings is mentioned, it's never noted that this is hardly accepted as solid in health policy circles.

It sounds great, but this will become yet another give-away. There's a list of preventative benefits that will be covered. Everyone is scrambling to get on that list. Because if I can get docs to screen for my condition, i can get my treatment/drug/device sold that much faster. it starts with the diabetes, heart disease, etc. give me enough time and lobbyists, I'll get the most obscure and rare illnesses -- and their associated tests -- covered at taxpayer expense. and it's all "free." this is going to politicize the work of the US Preventative Health Task Force.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

whatever

The main issue here is that these dumb-asses think that just because they have a majority in the House they can overturn 2 years worth of legislation. They don't have a chance in hell of doing that.

Posted by: tokenwhitemale | January 3, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse

And everyone who really cares to know how serious are the threats to repeal the law should read this

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/11/05/why-healthcare-reform-will-survive.html

Posted by: firebug2 | January 3, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I hear the sound of the Obamas packing for their return to Chicago.

Posted by: joee4 | January 3, 2011 3:59 PM
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Maybe you should have your hearing checked.

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The one thing that disappoints me immensely about the health care law is that NOT ONE DEMOCRAT has ever explained what is in the law! The only way the American public will know is for the law to come into effect piecemeal over the next 3 years! Who signs a contract not knowing what is in it? Well that is what those Demo dummies did to us with Obamacare......what a pathetic joke on America


Posted by: hbw2000 | January 3, 2011 2:39 PM
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Oh for goodness sakes if you Google the bill you can read it for yourself. Republicans like to convince people that know one knows what's in the bill because they no it will rile up gullible people like you. The Congress men and women don't read the bills, any of them. They have staff people making more money than you reading portions of them and then paraphrasing what they think the bill says. This is the way this game is played. This is what your tax dollars are paying for and this didn't just start when Obama became President.

Posted by: catmomtx | January 3, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"it's been characterized by it's backers as "free." ... and it's all "free.""

Well NoVA, thanks for making it abundantly clear that you're not interested in intellectual honesty.

No matter what idiot liar NoVA says, there are NO CO-PAYS for checkups, physicals, and screenings for Seniors now, thanks entirely to HCR and the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Well libs these postings just go to show that the staterun media is NOT TELLING YOU THE TRUTH;; THIS all falls on the obamanation and his minions; and incidentally the jobs are dems problem ;;your policies suck.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". If Right Wingers had not demagogued the much need end of life medical decisions, with their Death Panels lies, we might have been able to provide people with a clearer understanding of what works best, and why so much money is wasted on medical procedures on the very elderly, in their final days.

It would be nice if we could just pull a Sue Lowden, and just pay for preventive care check ups, with a couple Chickens, but that was just another case of yet another addled
Right Winger, waxing nostalgic over the mythical past in America.

Posted by: Liam-still | January 3, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Nobama11: "your policies suck"

And your "policy" is to bring everything back to the status quo of 2008 before the Great Recession. Real smart!

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Permit me to write a response for House Speaker B: "Dear Senate demonkrats: Permit me to point out three significant facts: 1) you forced this leglislation through without a single Replublican vote (ergo without reepesentation of 50% of the population); 2) 60+% of the population is opposed to this law; and 3) WE WON. Grasp it, rotate on it, and then accept it. Sincerely, HOUSE SPEAKER B.

Posted by: IQ168 | January 3, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Sincear;; hit that bomg pipe again i really like your style; dumba===.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Our elected elite should have read the health care reform by now, if not with the help of a few dozen aides, and be able to know what they don't understand as of yet. If health care is repealed, which is highly unlikely, it would be the ideal time to make sure a public option is mandated by every American. The new congress has some work to do, but it is not to review the past and condemn the legislation, but to be be forward pointed and address the issue about jobs and the recovery. The Republicans need to show the public they can do something good for those that believed in them, and if not the next election will be the largest landslide for the Democrats in history.

Posted by: joltinjo | January 3, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Our elected elite should have read the health care reform by now, if not with the help of a few dozen aides, and be able to know what they don't understand as of yet. If health care is repealed, which is highly unlikely, it would be the ideal time to make sure a public option is mandated by every American. The new congress has some work to do, but it is not to review the past and condemn the legislation, but to be be forward pointed and address the issue about jobs and the recovery. The Republicans need to show the public they can do something good for those that believed in them, and if not the next election will be the largest landslide for the Democrats in history.

Posted by: joltinjo | January 3, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Sincear;; do YOU REMEMBER your auspicious house speaker saying; We have to pass the bill to know what's in it", no one has read all of it. Did YOU know that the bill was not posted for 72 hours before it was voted on? did YOU know it was written in secret and no Repubs were allowed to be involved? did YOU KNOW the CBO scored it in correctly; the costs are a lie?

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

To: Liam-still

It sounds like auto repair and warranty insurance. They charge big premiums when the car is new knowing the % of breakdown but then when the car is older and they know the breakdown % is greater, the coverage is really unaffordable and much more restricted. Guess they can't make any money when the vehicle is older and requires more work?? What a rip off, they take the money when the car runs fine and is new and then restrict and increase the cost when it gets old.

Posted by: tdressler | January 3, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

IQ168 doesn't understand "representation"

Too funny.

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

the fool hearty libs wonder through the valley of death ; seeking redemption from their sins against man; only to be informed that their minds are forever committed to mental purgatory because of the noxious gases emitted in their presence by such morons as Obama and Michael Moore.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

The GOP formula for health care reform is don't get sick. Don't get hurt. Don't require medication. Or, run for Congress and get your health care taken care of by the taxpayers. Typical GOP bull.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | January 3, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

This letter says nothing about the healthcare law itself. Rather it says quite a bit about the election of 2012. Democratic leaders are telling house republicans "If you vote to repeal it we will paint you as anti-seniors in the next election." No political party in the US can afford being painted in that way because seniors turn out to vote in droves. Have fun gaining the white house if you are viewed as "anti-senior"

Posted by: ultimato9 | January 3, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

to all you libertards;; You are quick to ask" are you Boehnerites going to give your government health care/" Let me ask all you DO GOODER SOCIALIST FRUITS;Are you going to pay your taxes at the Bush rate or the Obama rate that was defeated, for the next [3] years? If you lunatics think everyone should be taxed more to pay for your failed programs why don't you pay extra to fund them?

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I really agree with "it did not go far enough", TOO BAD YOU WERE NOT ABORTED AT ONE OF oBAMA'S PARTIAAAAAAL BIRTH ABORTION HOSPITALS BEFORE YOU WERE ALLOWED TO USE OXYGEN THAT A REAL PERSON NEEDS.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Nobama11,

I will respond to your question if you can make just ONE post without a single spelling, grammar, or punctuation error.

Can - You - Do - It?

Posted by: Ethan2010 | January 3, 2011 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Let's not pretend that the Republicans are trying to repeal this bill because it is the best interests of the people of the U.S. to do so. When was the last time that the GOP did anything on our behalf? This is just another misuse of government by the GOP--conservatives never learn. The GOP is not afraid that this reform will not work. Rather they are afraid that it will be a resounding success, in which case they will have to deny its effectiveness until they can find a way to take credit for it.

The Affordable Health Care Act was a good bill. The people who don't like this bill don't seem to know anything about it. I can't get anyone to cite a single study that shows this reform will increase costs over doing nothing. The bill takes a modest step towards controlling health care costs in this country. AND it provides additional benefits.

If the GOP wants to make themselves useful, they might try to repeal the Bush tax cuts, especially those cuts for the wealthiest among us.

Posted by: ptgrunner | January 3, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Just remember that Democrats are "girly men"...they have don't have the backbone to have a real fight on this or anything else. Can't wait to hear the lamestream media types whining about how the GOP "bullied" the Democrats into something....like I said: Girly Men.

Posted by: dcmowbray1 | January 3, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why Boehner keeps spraying lies like an incompetent puppy dog.

The Republicans *can't* repeal the health care law. They can do NOTHING. They don't have the Senate, they don't have the veto pen.

This is a typical far-right anti-American move by the fascists in the House and generally in the RepubliTea party.

Nothing. Health care reform is the law, health care reform will remain the law.

On the other hand...Obama just beat the living CRAP out of the far right with a lame duck Congress, adding a final plum: first responder health care. Like Republicans ignoring Agent Orange symptoms in Vietnam vets, so the Republicans are and were more anxious to get rich people tax breaks they can't use while immediately attacking first responder help and now Social Security.

Have fun with the House. You'll accomplish zilch.

Posted by: 2229 | January 3, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

point well taken IT IS NOT FAIR [SOCIAL JUSTICE] must be applied in this instance;; it should be called the " obumblerpelosireidanation; you ignorant ants.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record and so we do not attack someone on semantics; seniors ALREADY GET A FREE EXAM EVERY YEAR DO NUT.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

What is it with the few remaining Progressive loons ??? I remember when in all of their Cluelessness they Slobbered over Obama signing the HC Unread Disaster and now that it is being actually read it is foubd to be worse even that susoected... so go on Reid , after the House passes it, send on to Obummer for his Veto and see how fewer Loons we'll see after 2012...YEP Voters Term Limits shall be mandadted once more!!!

Posted by: redhawk2 | January 3, 2011 6:28 PM | Report abuse

ITHAN[HAHA]; YOU MUST BE A HIGHLY REGARDED GRAMMER PROFESSTHER TO HAVE THE audacity[hehehe] to imply that my spell chech is not activated you ideological idiot.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Anthrax[ethan];; do you honestly think I give rat's a-- whether you respond to my posts; you turd rolling DUNG-BEETLE?

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:37 PM | Report abuse

wHAT A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF affirmative action selectivity being displayed by the pseudo-intellectual brain farts on this liberal rag's postings; wow, I bet if could just get the government to pay for my Master's degree I could be just like these frogs.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Excellent....block the congress and the dem senate and 0'bammy will shoulder the blame for the supremes tossing it back in 0'bammys face.....I believe 0'bammy lacks the guts to do that......he's a wimp!

Posted by: erodrik | January 3, 2011 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Anytime some one disagrees with a Marxist policy OF THIS BUNCH OF COMMUNIST BIGOTS WE ARE NOW CALLED VERBAL BOMB THROWERS; you lib/progressives should be very careful, you might put your Hollyweird financial supporters out of business. Watching you clowns do the [3] three stooges act is far more entertaining and it does not cost $15.00 for a ticket.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Liam/Siam;; that would be called an HSA [FOR YOU] IT IS A HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT; IT WAS A REPUBLICAN SUGGESTION REFUTED BY THE dems; it is tax deductible and if you do not use it, it rolls over into the next calender year. what a novel idea; you are TO GOOD boomer.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Rolling America back 200 years is not a bad idea; all you branch swinging managers would actually be planting turnips and picking cotton or pounding steel in a blacksmith's shop instead of trying to spend everybodies money on failed programs but YOURs; YOU FREAKING URBAN FRUITS.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Well NoVA, thanks for making it abundantly clear that you're not interested in intellectual honesty. No matter what idiot liar NoVA says, there are NO CO-PAYS for checkups, physicals, and screenings for Seniors now, thanks entirely to HCR and the Democratic Party."

Well, you missed my point entirely. Yes, there are no copayments for the benefits you list. But if you go back, that's not how this was new benefit was promoted. I'm not sure how that makes me an idiot and a liar. I'm sure you've seen the reports of people showing up at ER or calling insurance companies demanding their "free Obamacare" -- there's a reason for that, and it isn't because members of Congress and the press were running around saying "no copayments for wellness visits." Whatever. It's a moot point now, because this is not getting repealed and this week's action is simply political posturing.

More concerning is what i touched on was was ignored -- the number of services that apply to the no-copayment category are only going to increase as advocacy groups and industry realize the $$ that's to be made by getting their preferred items covered at no cost to beneficiaries as part of this service. This is also going to present fraud problems because without even a nominal copayment, patients have no reason to check their explanation of benefits. MedPAC has been pretty clear on this -- and that group is hardly anti-Medicare.

Not sure if Liam is responding to my point, but he gets it. The GOP had a chance to control end-of-life costs and they blew it with the death-panel talk -- that's what I meant about both sides needing to be honest. One side is yelling that the government is going to kill everyone, and the other is promising free ponies.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | January 3, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that in 62 days the Dem's have forgotten the Nov. 2nd message. Smaller Government - get out of my medical care.
Reduce the Deficit - Obamacare adds trillions in unfunded mandates to the states, unfunded liabilities for the Feds and of course trillions in deficits into the future .

Do the math idiots or are you to poorly equipped mentally??

Posted by: PRRWRITER | January 3, 2011 7:29 PM | Report abuse

NoBrain11: "If you lunatics think everyone should be taxed more to pay for your failed programs why don't you pay extra to fund them?"

You mean, like the trillion dollars we just handed criminal corporations who have not responded with jobs, and handed banks, and who continue criminal mortgage practices?

If you're this stupid about who's doing what, how can you judge anything else?

Let's talk about failed programs like Iraq. Then shove it up you butt, you lying hypocrite Confederate fascist.

Posted by: 2229 | January 3, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

PRR; when Marxist revolutionaries[van jones]; obama get their a--es kicked they just dig in deeper and get uglier;; this is not a simple solution problem,there are many Marxists in this admin and the potus is their leader; it is a social war.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

While the dems were busy undermining the USA with START and giving Russia the edge in nuclear warheads, they also give Russia the economic and political power oil and gas give them with their pipelines throughout Europe and soon into China!

Instead of focusing "like a laser" on jobs, Obama and the dems focused on DADT, nationalized death by decree they call health care, and destroying the industrial heartland of the USA with their control of the EPA. Let the dems get aggressive. Their rumps aren't immune from boot tips! They are going to find that Americans no longer want to hear the typical dem lunatic rhetoric. If the health care bill was so damned good, why is Obama giving out exemptions? And why has the Senate and House kept its privileged health care? It's worthless! This is a purposeful drain on resources to control every aspect of your life. Putin and Obama are cut from the same cloth! Only Putin is smarter!

Posted by: vgailitis | January 3, 2011 7:49 PM | Report abuse

The Marxist revolutionaries in the White House and the senate do not hear WE the People; they are ideologues and the only thing they hear is "America must be destroyed", these bloggers are nefarious instruments to be used by these totalitarians because of their blind revelry much like Hitler mesmerized the GERMANS. useful idiots.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 7:56 PM | Report abuse

If Senate dems plan to block repeal, they had better start sending out the resumes for new work after 2012 elections.
We will see whether these slime balls have flat or round heels.

Posted by: rteske | January 3, 2011 7:57 PM | Report abuse

If Dems in the Senate who are up for reelection in 2012 continue to support this ill-advised health care bill, they will surely be voted out of office. They just don't get it -- Americans don't want this socialist agenda. When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is stop digging.

Posted by: Chippewa | January 3, 2011 8:09 PM | Report abuse

22BOY;; GATHER YOUR WITS you do sound stressed badboy;; we spend far less on welfare programs than dems; we only get 2or 3% of the welfare vote; what does that tell you Einstein.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 8:16 PM | Report abuse

22boy;; how is that obama afghan thing going for you; nimrod.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 8:21 PM | Report abuse

It is so odd that the real issue of the healthcare reform bill get push under the rug like everything else that is good. For some reason we have been led to believe that it is wrong to make those who are capable of purchasing medical coverage but refused because they feel it is their right not tho have insurance. Then if that is the case what is the rights of those who pay for cverage at high premiums to cover those who refused to purchase medical care but seek and get medical treatment. I guess that means we are the ones who is dumb and stupid because we agree with them in public but in the back of our minds we wish we had the nerves too stand up and agree with the president on having people pay for medical care.

If people would stop and think about the cost of uninsured person going to the doctor or hospital cost, even if they can pay little we still are the ones who are paying the balance.

It seems that this country would rather let everyone suffer just because the status quo was broken and we have a miniority in the white house. Even though there are still some who can not get over that this has happen but they had been prepared for it for years, they just prayed that it wouldn't happen. But it did and it happen to let you know that you no longer have a strong hold on any other races. We are not on the same fighting ground and we need to get used to it.

The more you fight the future, the more things are going to go forward. We are not going backward but forward and we might just end up going to far in the future but we are headed there.

By trying to knock this president is like knocking yourself down because he just keep going and going. When you think he is not listening or moving fast enough for you he is moving at the speed he is supposed to. He have played the repulciand right where he want them and they still do not realize it.

Like the last two years they will be working hard to bring the president down and it won't work but he will getting things down for the american people.

Posted by: mike4ever | January 3, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

It is so odd that the real issue of the healthcare reform bill get push under the rug like everything else that is good. For some reason we have been led to believe that it is wrong to make those who are capable of purchasing medical coverage but refused because they feel it is their right not tho have insurance. Then if that is the case what is the rights of those who pay for cverage at high premiums to cover those who refused to purchase medical care but seek and get medical treatment. I guess that means we are the ones who is dumb and stupid because we agree with them in public but in the back of our minds we wish we had the nerves too stand up and agree with the president on having people pay for medical care.

If people would stop and think about the cost of uninsured person going to the doctor or hospital cost, even if they can pay little we still are the ones who are paying the balance.

It seems that this country would rather let everyone suffer just because the status quo was broken and we have a miniority in the white house. Even though there are still some who can not get over that this has happen but they had been prepared for it for years, they just prayed that it wouldn't happen. But it did and it happen to let you know that you no longer have a strong hold on any other races. We are not on the same fighting ground and we need to get used to it.

The more you fight the future, the more things are going to go forward. We are not going backward but forward and we might just end up going to far in the future but we are headed there.

By trying to knock this president is like knocking yourself down because he just keep going and going. When you think he is not listening or moving fast enough for you he is moving at the speed he is supposed to. He have played the repulciand right where he want them and they still do not realize it.

Like the last two years they will be working hard to bring the president down and it won't work but he will getting things down for the american people.

Posted by: mike4ever | January 3, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

It is so odd that the real issue of the healthcare reform bill get push under the rug like everything else that is good. For some reason we have been led to believe that it is wrong to make those who are capable of purchasing medical coverage but refused because they feel it is their right not tho have insurance. Then if that is the case what is the rights of those who pay for cverage at high premiums to cover those who refused to purchase medical care but seek and get medical treatment. I guess that means we are the ones who is dumb and stupid because we agree with them in public but in the back of our minds we wish we had the nerves too stand up and agree with the president on having people pay for medical care.

If people would stop and think about the cost of uninsured person going to the doctor or hospital cost, even if they can pay little we still are the ones who are paying the balance.

It seems that this country would rather let everyone suffer just because the status quo was broken and we have a miniority in the white house. Even though there are still some who can not get over that this has happen but they had been prepared for it for years, they just prayed that it wouldn't happen. But it did and it happen to let you know that you no longer have a strong hold on any other races. We are not on the same fighting ground and we need to get used to it.

The more you fight the future, the more things are going to go forward. We are not going backward but forward and we might just end up going to far in the future but we are headed there.

By trying to knock this president is like knocking yourself down because he just keep going and going. When you think he is not listening or moving fast enough for you he is moving at the speed he is supposed to. He have played the repulciand right where he want them and they still do not realize it.

Like the last two years they will be working hard to bring the president down and it won't work but he will getting things down for the american people.

Posted by: mike4ever | January 3, 2011 8:23 PM | Report abuse

It is so odd that the real issue of the healthcare reform bill get push under the rug like everything else that is good. For some reason we have been led to believe that it is wrong to make those who are capable of purchasing medical coverage but refused because they feel it is their right not tho have insurance. Then if that is the case what is the rights of those who pay for cverage at high premiums to cover those who refused to purchase medical care but seek and get medical treatment. I guess that means we are the ones who is dumb and stupid because we agree with them in public but in the back of our minds we wish we had the nerves too stand up and agree with the president on having people pay for medical care.

If people would stop and think about the cost of uninsured person going to the doctor or hospital cost, even if they can pay little we still are the ones who are paying the balance.

It seems that this country would rather let everyone suffer just because the status quo was broken and we have a miniority in the white house. Even though there are still some who can not get over that this has happen but they had been prepared for it for years, they just prayed that it wouldn't happen. But it did and it happen to let you know that you no longer have a strong hold on any other races. We are not on the same fighting ground and we need to get used to it.

The more you fight the future, the more things are going to go forward. We are not going backward but forward and we might just end up going to far in the future but we are headed there.

By trying to knock this president is like knocking yourself down because he just keep going and going. When you think he is not listening or moving fast enough for you he is moving at the speed he is supposed to. He have played the repulciand right where he want them and they still do not realize it.

Like the last two years they will be working hard to bring the president down and it won't work but he will getting things down for the american people.

Posted by: mike4ever | January 3, 2011 8:24 PM | Report abuse

It is so odd that the real issue of the healthcare reform bill get push under the rug like everything else that is good. For some reason we have been led to believe that it is wrong to make those who are capable of purchasing medical coverage but refused because they feel it is their right not tho have insurance. Then if that is the case what is the rights of those who pay for cverage at high premiums to cover those who refused to purchase medical care but seek and get medical treatment. I guess that means we are the ones who is dumb and stupid because we agree with them in public but in the back of our minds we wish we had the nerves too stand up and agree with the president on having people pay for medical care.

If people would stop and think about the cost of uninsured person going to the doctor or hospital cost, even if they can pay little we still are the ones who are paying the balance.

It seems that this country would rather let everyone suffer just because the status quo was broken and we have a miniority in the white house. Even though there are still some who can not get over that this has happen but they had been prepared for it for years, they just prayed that it wouldn't happen. But it did and it happen to let you know that you no longer have a strong hold on any other races. We are not on the same fighting ground and we need to get used to it.

The more you fight the future, the more things are going to go forward. We are not going backward but forward and we might just end up going to far in the future but we are headed there.

By trying to knock this president is like knocking yourself down because he just keep going and going. When you think he is not listening or moving fast enough for you he is moving at the speed he is supposed to. He have played the repulciand right where he want them and they still do not realize it.

Like the last two years they will be working hard to bring the president down and it won't work but he will getting things down for the american people.

Posted by: mike4ever | January 3, 2011 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Desmond22; you pee pussy moron, you do not even know which end of your cigarette is lit you liberal puta.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Desmond22; you pee pussy moron, you do not even know which end of your cigarette is lit you* liberal skirt
Which American people mike-lever?

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Lever 2000; this impostor just keeps digging himself deeper in to the cesspool. you and his socialIStic agenda are history BRO. THE BIBLE HUGGING, GUN TOTTEN INSECURE real Americans are going to run this phony out of the country. He be cryun mammie.

Posted by: Nobama11 | January 3, 2011 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Did not the American people indicate on 2 November that they opposed the left wing, liberal agenda of the fringe portion of the democratic party? It was not just economic problems that nearly overtook a large advantage in the Senate, overturned the House, gave the majority of the governorships to the republicans, and turned over 600 state legislative seats from the democrats to the republicans. The arrogance of the democrats in not acknowledging the severe deficiencies in the health care law is appalling. Now they want to try to convince us that they are closing the so-called "do-nut hole" and fixing Medicare. What they are really doing is advocating European style rationed care in a system that does not work. I am a senior about 2 and a half years from Medicare and just do not believe the democrats. The American people made an awful mistake two years ago when they elected a socialist to the highest office in the land. He and his followers thought they had a mandate to advance a socialist agenda. The mandate was to govern under our constitution and not that of third world nations like France, Belgium, and the rest of the socialist nations in Europe. Senate democrats better begin to understand the realities of the 2010 election or their most solid candidates in 2012, such as Bob Casey in Pennsylvania, will become vulnerable. Pennsylvania did elect the most conservative of senators in Toomey - it is a very conservative state and Casey has abandoned his pro-life agenda by voting with the liberals. They could lose a net 14 in 2012 giving the Senate to the republicans with a fillibuster proof majority - considering the number of their seats that are up for election. Clearly, they can easily lose four in the next election giving the Senate majority to the republicans. If the democrats keep squandering their base to the liberal fringe they can soon be the minority party. Someone on their side of the aisle better awaken to the reality of what happened in the last election.

Posted by: kjonson1 | January 3, 2011 8:53 PM | Report abuse

It's amusing, and telling, to see defenders of the health care bill trumpeting the "free" checkups. They may be "free" to the patient, but they're not "free." Somebody has to pay for them. Wonder who? Wait, don't tell me. The taxpayer!!

Posted by: Chippewa | January 3, 2011 9:25 PM | Report abuse

paul65 states"Most Americans strongly support the new health law, with some simply wishing that it had gone further".

Paul I don't know what hole in the sand you've had your head stuck in but your wrong.
Most Liberals/Dems strongly support ObamaCare, but most Americans were against it when you Liberal/Dems forced it down our throats. Most Americans are still against it since most have seen their insurance premiums rise, deductibles rise, co-pays rise and out of pocket responsibility go from 20% to 45%. They also reject the ultimate cost of ObamaCare when they know that the high cost created will result in rationing and denial of care.

Posted by: jhnjdy | January 3, 2011 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post Reporters:

Please, stop reporting this issue as a typical Washington "sport" story between the party in power and the party out of power.

Report about the man in Oklahoma who will lose his health care because his diabetes treatment has exceeded his lifetime limit.

Or the 22 year old in Ohio who will be left with no safety net because she cannot continue to be insured under her parents' policy while she looks for a job.

Or the three year old in South Dakota who will never be insured because of his pre-existing heart condition.

Or the Florida couple who will lose their house and live in their car because she has breast cancer and their only recourse is to go bankrupt.

These are the individual human consequence stories that the repealers are going to take with them when they face their maker on their judgment day.

Posted by: PeterIII | January 3, 2011 9:59 PM | Report abuse

The tactic of throwing a few crumbs to senior citizens while at the same time systematically dismantling Medicare and planning euthanasia through rationing, assumes that seniors are morons. Also, these paragons of communist virtue fail to mention that Republicans plan to replace the Health Care Act with a more workable and less economically invasive set of health care reforms. They want to act as though Republicans only want to destroy the Health Care Act without replacing it with a much better model of reform. These people are practiced liars, and try apply the principles of sophistry to what the Republicans intend. They want to pretend that the Republicans have no plan. They are vicious liars--pure and simple. Simply because the vast majority of Americans do not subscribe to Marxism, these Democratic Senators are throwing crumbs as though they were major contributions. Fortunately, Americans are not nearly as ignorant and stupid as these Senators believe. When 2012 arrives, we will be sending more of these jerks home to stay. They can spent their retirement years wondering why the American electorate didn't buy into their deceptions and lies. The vast majority of Americans have no interest in becoming the Cuba of the North.

Posted by: jerdjon | January 3, 2011 10:24 PM | Report abuse

The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of who will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn’t even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it.

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DING DING DING

we have a winner

Posted by: caothien9 | January 3, 2011 10:25 PM | Report abuse

We had a 2500 page healthcare bill shoved down our throats

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What is it with you Republicans and your fellatio obsession? Jeez, just go find yourself a black guy on craigslist m4m section, realize your fantasy, and get it the hell over with.

It's just like with DADT and showers. You guys are obsessed.

Posted by: caothien9 | January 3, 2011 10:34 PM | Report abuse

"... when you Liberal/Dems forced it down our throats."

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And there's another one (maybe).

Sure are a lot of first-time one-time posters in this thread. Too bad we can't see IP addresses, I bet a lot of these are the same few paid trolls. Whoever is paying them isn't getting his money's worth, they spend all their time projecting their homoerotic fantasies

Posted by: caothien9 | January 3, 2011 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Well it didn't take long to figure out what the Republicans are going to do with their House majority .. they're going to refresh the public memory with the reason they got bethumped in 2006 and 2008.

Expect frivolous investigations, posturing with thinly veiled insinuations that Obama isn't "one of us," red meat thrown to the rednecks and the thumpers, and not a single worthwhile idea, proposal, or policy for the good of the country.

The one thing you can always count on Republicans to do .. shoot themselves in both feet. The guns are cocked, loaded and aimed.

Posted by: caothien9 | January 3, 2011 10:54 PM | Report abuse

While Obamacare will likely not be repealed until Republicans take control of both the House and Senate, it will likely not be funded as all funding bills have to start in the House per the Constitution. No funding means no start of it. Significant parts of it are also being found unconstitutional by the courts. If it survives, it will be significantly different than the version passed under questionable legality.

Posted by: scott16 |
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The senate will take a military funding bill and attach the cost of healthcare to it sending it back to the House, then the fun begins.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 3, 2011 10:59 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are the blood-sucking spawn of pure evil. Which party would want to take away a person's right to get medical care? Republicans. Which party would like to take away your right to keep your children on your medical insurance until they're 26? The Republicans. Which party wants you to be denied medical coverage after a certain dollar point is reached? The Republicans. If the Republicans insist on repealing Obamacare then they will be killed in the 2012 election and Barack will simply veto the bill.. Even now they can't come up with a single Republican who is more popular than Barack Obama. Mark Montgomery NYC, NY boboberg@nyc.rr.com

Posted by: boboberg | January 3, 2011 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of the goofy Health Care that Obama and his renegade shoved down the thoats of the american people. Start using a county hospital or go visit a veterans hospital run by the government. They are dirty, they stink. Those who agree with this Health Insurance from now own go to your free hospitals see how long you wait. That is what this insurance is and we don't want it! Keep the government out of our business!

Posted by: bailey50 | January 3, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of the goofy Health Care that Obama and his renegade shoved down the thoats of the american people. Start using a county hospital or go visit a veterans hospital run by the government. They are dirty, they stink. Those who agree with this Health Insurance from now own go to your free hospitals see how long you wait. That is what this insurance is and we don't want it! Keep the government out of our business!

Posted by: bailey50 | January 3, 2011 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Paul65
you are a totall idiot. Most americans want the health care bill? Oh right thats why they kicked the party out that passed it. Sheez what a dolt.

Posted by: unclejohncornbread | January 3, 2011 11:36 PM | Report abuse

.

I'm actually glad the extremist Repugs finally got some power (the House) back.


Cleaning up all of the Repugs messes from the Bushco years has been a b****, especially with them whining in the background all the time.


Now America is going to be reminded...again, exactly why it is that they hate the Repugs so much.


2012 can't get here fast enough!!!!!!!

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Posted by: DrainYou | January 3, 2011 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Angie 12106
Meanwhile seniors are forced to get treatment from the Fed goverment because NO INSUREANCE COMPANYS are left in business. And whos FREE money pays for this? The problem with SOCIALISM is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money. What you don't know about economicis you could squeez into Fed Ex Field. Another dolt.

Posted by: unclejohncornbread | January 3, 2011 11:46 PM | Report abuse

While reading many posts, I saw name calling, assuming and other negatives. My opinion of repealing the Health Care Reform Bill is that it won't happen because democrats control the senate and the administration. However, republicans must at least try as that is what many used as part of their platform while running for office. In the end, the republican house will try to ensure that the law is unfunded and die.

Posted by: gfafblifr | January 3, 2011 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Dear Republicans,

I think it is time for you to push for another big tax break for the top 1%. It's been too long since you sucked up to that constituency.

Posted by: DavidH3 | January 3, 2011 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of the goofy Health Care that Obama and his renegade shoved down the thoats

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Jeez what IS it with you people and talking about things getting shoved down throats? Do you get wood thinking about tongue suppressors? Talk about homoerotic repression

Posted by: caothien9 | January 3, 2011 11:55 PM | Report abuse

A commenter wrote: "Please, this is a fight worth having. I'm glad that the Democrats are digging in. Let's have a knock down drag out fight about this. We're ready here on the right. Are you guys ready over there?"

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Puleeze. Let's not get nasty. I can't stand to see a grown man cry - let alone be forced to watch or new crybaby in residence, Boehner, "lacrymose" all over his $3,000 suit.

Come to think of it. That would be enough to make me cry. What a waste of a good suit!

Posted by: chamateddy | January 4, 2011 12:03 AM | Report abuse

I read many stories about Big Evil Insurance co. Dropping people frpm coverage. My Big Evil insurance Co. actually paid over 1/2 a million to traet my daughters cancer and what do you know she still has 1.5 mil left on her lifetime limit. So now Odumma wants insurance co to give back money in the form of rebates to customers. So when they need the money they won't have it. And this idiot is the President. He couldn't run a lemonaide stand.

Posted by: unclejohncornbread | January 4, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats can take the
"donut hole" and stuff it with their irresponsible cuts to Medicare. Leaning back on seniors with this sob story about the donut hole will not do any good. There are bigger fish to fry. Give back the 500 billion Obama is stealing from the seniors via Medicare cuts and let them keep their much cherished Senior Advantage plans. The entire Obamacare needs to be repealed. Of course, it will never happen as long as Obama has the veto pen, but it will not be for lack of trying by the Republicans. And the American people, and seniors in particular, will know that Obama is thwarting their efforts as he has always done. Come 2012, Obama will be kicked out of the White House and a new day will be dawning with a thorough Obamacare repeal.

Posted by: Tommypie | January 4, 2011 12:09 AM | Report abuse


One simple question:

Why is the White House even giving any credibility to Boehner's threats?

Let them do what they feel they must!

It will never get past the Senate, and even if it does, Boehner would have to get enough votes to override a veto.

Who's zooming whom here?

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | January 4, 2011 12:10 AM | Report abuse

"Clearance Auto Insurance" will give you a break if you buy two or more types of insurance. You may also get a reduction if you have more than one vehicle insured with the same company.

Posted by: luzworley | January 4, 2011 3:27 AM | Report abuse

I love collective buying!!! Want to get food at the lowest prices? Then the place is called "Printapons" find them online

Posted by: gracejhenry | January 4, 2011 5:02 AM | Report abuse

Was the letter necessary? Has anything been introduced in the House or Senate? Why lay your cards on the table before the game even starts?

Let the Pugs start the repeal process!

Posted by: kishorgala | January 4, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it time for uprooted Republicans to move to SFO just to petititon for Nancy's recall as the voters?

Posted by: dottydo | January 4, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it time for uprooted Republicans to move to SFO just to petititon for Nancy's recall as the voters?

Posted by: dottydo | January 4, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Repeal" is a wrong choice of word. The correct word is "Improve".

Sure, it is important to have job BUT if you are sick you can't work.

Job and good health are linked. One can't do without the other.

There is no money. Another poor argument. You going to let your people die off to save money.
Republicans think twice.

Posted by: beenthere7 | January 4, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

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