Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity
Posted at 10:55 AM ET, 02/17/2011

Fox News isn't just `negative' about Islam. The network tells nonstop lies about it.

By Adam Serwer

Following up on yesterday's posts on the poll from the Public Religion Research Institute showing "a significant correlation between trust in Fox News and negative attitudes about Muslims," Alex Seitz-Wald posts a chart that helps illustrate just how much more focused Fox News is on negative portrayals of Islam.

FoxMuslimGraph2.jpg


A conservative might argue that this just shows how complacent other networks are in the face of the "Islamofascist" threat. The problem is that much of Fox News's coverage of Islam over the last year has been focused not on actual facts, but on the sort of fringe ideas about Islam in the United States that are rapidly becoming a permanent feature of the right wing culture war. Fox News spend a significant amount of time in the past year furthering the baseless conspiracy that most American mosques are radicalized, that the Obama administration has been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood, and that Muslims in the U.S. are trying to impose Sharia law.

Last year's debate over the proposed Islamic community center blocks away from the ruins of the World Trade Center provided another opportunity for Fox News to peddle this stuff ad nauseum, with on-air personalities accusing the Imam of trying to impose Sharia, of having "ties to the Muslim Brotherhood" (at this point, who doesn't?) and that the project would be funded by terrorists.

The events in Egypt have produced some similar results -- but because conservatives have been less unified on the matter, there's been more balance than usual in their coverage of the protests. Nevertheless, if you want to hear about the coming European caliphate Fox News is still the channel to watch.

The problem isn't that Fox News viewers hear a lot of negative things about Islam, it's they hear a lot of false things about Islam. Then, as the poll suggests, Republican viewers of Fox News come away thinking they're genuinely informed about Islam, when the opposite is the case. That's the worst part, because those views, once entrenched, are hard to dislodge. Conservatives frustrated with the right's support for deposed Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak might want to consider the monster they've helped create.

By Adam Serwer  | February 17, 2011; 10:55 AM ET
Categories:  Foreign policy and national security, Political media  
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: The Morning Plum
Next: Please define `fiscal hawk'

Comments

I'm sort of diggin' how worked up Adam and Greg are getting over this poll.

Posted by: sbj3 | February 17, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Well, said, Greg. If Fox News isn't the biggest propoganda mill and source of disinformation since the fall of the Soviet Union, I don't know what is...

Posted by: dstreet208 | February 17, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

So they aren't really saying false things about Islam, these stories are about the political behavior of some Muslims and Muslim organizations, right? For me, the distinction is meaningful.
It would be the difference between saying stuff about Christianity and saying stuff about the political behavior of some Christians and Christian organizations.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Let them froth, they make great impulse buyers of hokey jingoist memorabilia. The people that sell "don't tread on me" stickers are making a killing, and they're probably liberals.

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

No, shrink2, if the Fox News network tells nonstop lies about Muslims, then someone should be able to quote an actual Fox News employee's actual "lie" (as opposed to Dr. Jasser or someone else being interviewed on Fox News). I sure hope that Greg's editor ran the allegations in this story by legal first.

By the way, was it just Dan Rather lying about Bush's Texas ANG service, or was that the entire CBS News network?

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 17, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

@shrink: Greg introduces the Think Progress article as showing that "Fox spends far more time than any other network warning viewers about the impending sharia law takeover, the global caliphate, homegrown jihad."

One then clicks the link and finds that the graphs are a result of a Nexus search for individual terms such as "jihad", "caliphate", and "sharia" - none of which are negative in and of themselves. They are really straining here to make hay out of this singular poll.

And I wonder if the Nexus search excludes FNC's opinion shows?

Posted by: sbj3 | February 17, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Adam makes the claim that "Fox News spend a significant amount of time in the past year furthering the baseless conspiracy that most American mosques are radicalized." For proof he points to a TPM article about a man who appeared on FNC to comment on Juan Williams' firing. As far as I can tell, the man did not make any claim on FNC at that time about radicalized mosques - it is, however, an opinion he holds.

This is some weak tea here - I think these guys are guilty of what they accuse FNC of.

Posted by: sbj3 | February 17, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I'm no fan of Fox news, but saying they tell non-stop lies about Islam is simply not true, seems to me. For anthropological reasons (all in the name of science, right Bernie?), I've watched a fair amount of Fox News and I've never seen a lie told about Islam. If lies are being told about the behavior of some Muslims, as claw suggests, it should be pretty easy to list some examples.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

As one who follows Islamic politics with sustained interest, I can say there is intense debate in some pretty sophisticated academic/foreign policy circles about the Muslim Brotherhood it purpose, its intentions, its relative importance and so on.

Recently Gordon Brown said, "To those immigrants who think they can get away without making a contribution, without respecting our way of life, without honouring the values that make Britain what it is, I have only one message - you're not welcome."

It isn't as if this is just a Fox News issue.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

As expected, weasels skirt around implications. No fault will ever be found as long as they preface every reference to Islam with the word "radical."

With that in mind, I can't help but notice a little bit of a double standard in lambasting Rev. Wright's "a society controlled by rich white people" as racism when it's prefaced by the word "rich"

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

"nonstop lies"

Absolutely.

These people are LIARS and they need to be called out as such.

"Nonstop lies" is the perfect phrase to describe Faux Propaganda. I hope we see lots more on this. It needs to be EXPOSED for what it is. Non-stop, relentless, willful attempts to lie to people and use fear to drum up political donations and activism largely against minority groups.

STOP THE LIES.

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 17, 2011 11:57 AM | Report abuse

[Adam sneers: "Fox News viewers... hear a lot of false things about Islam."]

LMAO! Get that? Adam can't cite anything but he's sure there are "a lot of false things".

*pffl*

International poll: Muslims support strict Sharia, Islamic supremacism
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090225/pl_usnw/muslim_publics_oppose_al_qaeda_s_terrorism__but_agree_with_its_goal_of_driving_u_s__forces_out

"...Majorities agree with nearly all of al Qaeda's goals to change U.S. behavior in the Muslim world, to promote Islamist governance, and to preserve and affirm Islamic identity."

=====
Translated: The vast majority of Muslims differ with Al-Qaeda on the means, not on the ends.

Here is a pdf of the full report.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

See especially pages 27 through 30: "Islamist Groups and Shari'a." On page 27, the report says: "The Islamist goal of giving Shari'a a larger role in Islamic society is viewed positively."

And on page 29: "In Egypt 81 percent said they agreed with the al Qaeda goal of "requir[ing] a strict application of Shari'a law in every Islamic country" (65% strongly); only 12 percent disagreed. Pakistanis were similar with 76 percent agreeing with this goal (52% strongly); 5 percent disagreed. Indonesians, however, agreed by only a narrow plurality: 49 percent supported the goal (just 14% strongly), while 42 percent disagreed. In Morocco in late 2006, 76 percent agreed."

Try harder to resist your Candorphobic paranoia of much better-informed Fox viewers, Adam.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

If people want to know why political discourse is so nasty and polarized today, they need only look at people like Greg Sargent. "Nonstop lies" is a VERY serious charge to levy against a major media outlet. Yet Sargent doesn't offer a shred of evidence to support his charge. (Certainly that chart doesn't.)

There is a lot of statistical data out there (from highly reputable sources which Mr. Sargent could not dispute) on the views of Muslims in the U.S. and globally. A lot of it isn't pretty. If Sargent can compare specific statements from Fox people with actual data and show the "lies," I'll take him seriously.

Until then he's just one more shrill voice bringing down American discourse, and contributing absolutely nothing positive.

It is sad that the Washington Post now publishes columns making wild unsupported accusations -- once upon a time the Post had standards which prohibited such behavior.


Posted by: S8thRd | February 17, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

[Adam drools: "Republican viewers of Fox News come away thinking they're genuinely informed about Islam, when the opposite is the case."]

Is conservative Fox viewer revulsion over the public gang-rape *tournante* on CBS's Lara Logan a case of "Islamophobia"? or did mainstream media "Candorphobia" cause CBS to wrecklessly endanger their reporter?

*See "Battered Westerner Syndrome"
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0802/steyn1.asp

Try harder to resist your Candorphobia over better-informed Fox viewers, Adam.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I do not watch FOX news, but I have seen their morning triumvirate on the far right [really!] screen at the Y at 7 AM. They smirk more than most folks. There are: a pretty blonde with an animated face, and a long faced Anglo looking fellow, and a fellow who appears to be of Mediterranean descent. I do not know what they say.

So having no dog in this hunt, I am assuming from following the links provided by our host that this is about guests and opinion folks opining. That could be the basis for writing that FOX spreads disinformation - that is, that their guests are chosen to opine extravagantly from a unique point of view. Does anyone challenge the speaker when s/he fabricates, assuming s/he does? I have no idea.

I am not very interested in FOX, after all. I do not watch CNN or MSNBC either. I have watched HBO and ESPN and Bravo and USA and TNT and TBS. I am not a complete Luddite.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 17, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

As the BBC endlessly loops video of corpses with bullet holes in them, Bahrain's finance minister Sheikh Ahmed Bin Mohammed Al Khalifa defends his government's actions in an interview with the BBC, saying the security forced showed restraint.

I like Ban Ki-Moon's positioning of the UN. "He said the world body in its regional reports has for many years been pointing to the problems which are now coming to the surface. He repeated calls for bold reform, not repression, and said the UN has been urging Arab leaders to listen attentively to the legitimate aspirations of their people."

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The idea of an Islamic plot to impose sharia law in the U.S. is false and has no bearing in reality. The idea that Obama's administration is really a front for the Muslim Brotherhood is clearly false and rather juvenile. The idea that all muslims in the U.S. are not loyal citizens is a gross over-reaction to the actions of a few.

I think this is self-evident. Why should Adam have to tell folks that it is false?

IMO, FoxNews is really dangerous and will eventually lead to the destabilization of the U.S. You cannot have reasoned debate when one side is living in fantasy world.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 17, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

[Adam whines: "Last year's debate over the proposed Islamic community center blocks away from the ruins of the World Trade Center provided another opportunity for Fox News to peddle this stuff ad nauseum"]

HA! As if Adam and Greg didn't get their asses handed to them for peddling *ad nauseum* their progressive "Candorphobia" against the vast majority of Americans (including secular Muslims) who opposed the mosque.

[*Google "plumline mosque". Clearly they're still smarting from the rhetorical beatdown from the comment cluebats.]

And now they have the temerity to climb up on their hindlegs (without of shred of evidence to cite) and howl about fair and accurate Fox News coverage.

"Ye blind guides, that strain out the gnat, and swallow the camel!"
[Matt. 23:24]

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton about to speak, to give the American position on the crisis in Bahrain...

Meanwhile, in the theocracy of Iran, Reuters quotes Sadeq Larijani as saying: "The betrayal by the leaders of this sedition is obvious... and the Islamic system will not tolerate any person harming the revolution," said judiciary chief Sadeq Larijani. "Definitely they will be prosecuted."

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"And now they have the temerity to climb up on their hindlegs (without of shred of evidence to cite) and howl about fair and accurate Fox News coverage."

I rest my case. The usual nasty villification. Fantasy world. Not dealing with reality.

It's like debating reality with someone on LSD. It's pointless until they snap out of it.

I'm sure FoxNews hits on the truth everynow, but the evidence is pretty clear that it is a right wing propaganda machine.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 17, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Alex drooled: "the evidence is pretty clear that it is a right wing propaganda machine."]

What "evidence"? You don't cite any.

Then when presented with evidence to the contrary, you whine about "reality"?

Take your Haldol, Alex.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"It is sad that the Washington Post now publishes columns making wild unsupported accusations -- once upon a time the Post had standards which prohibited such behavior."

Yup. Then they hired George Will and Charles Krauthammer.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 17, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I am very proud of America, America, a place where Barak Hussein Obama is going to be elected for a second term as leader of the free world, in spite of Fox and the Koch brothers, etc. And Wright was not racist when he said America was a society run by rich white people. That will change, that is changing, Fox is on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

[Alex drooled; "The idea of an Islamic plot to impose sharia law in the U.S. is false and has no bearing in reality."]

That is a jaw-droppingly stupid assertion.

In May 1991, MB issued to its ideological allies an explanatory memorandum on "the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America." Asserting that the Brotherhood's mission was to establish "an effective and ... stable Islamic Movement" on the continent, this document outlined a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" for achieving that objective. It stated that Muslims "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands ... so that ... God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions."

Discover the Muslim Brotherhood @
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6386

Don't indulge in Islamo-supremacism denial your whole life, Alex.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

One doesn't even have to tell a lie to cast doubt, as I'm sure you all realize. Keep hitting the same topic over and over with a certain slant or POV, and that becomes the message. Is that POV "wrong"? No-it is editorial opinion that is run into the ground.

Do that enough and you get your point across. What FOX does is far more subtle (to some...) that merely telling lies...

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

ChuckinDenton: "Keep hitting the same topic over and over with a certain slant or POV, and that becomes the message."]

Don't be so hard on Greg and Adam. They hasn't endulged in Palin Derangement Syndrome once yet today.

(i know, the day is early)

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

shrink2 - If you haven't seen this already, you may find it of interest:

"How Goldman Killed A.I.G."

"The conventional wisdom has it that the final report of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission was a low-budget flop, hopelessly riven by internal political disputes and dissension among the commission’s 10 members. As usual, the conventional wisdom is completely wrong. Actually, the report — and the online archive of testimony, interviews and documents that are now available — is a treasure trove of invaluable information about the causes and consequences of the Great Recession.

For instance, on the exceptionally important but little understood role played by the increasingly lower prices Goldman Sachs placed on the complex mortgage securities on its balance sheet — which helped determine the fate of many of its shakier Wall Street brethren — the commission report, on page 237, is crystalline:

'As the crisis unfolded Goldman marked mortgage-related securities at prices that were significantly lower than those of other companies. Goldman knew that those lower marks might hurt those other companies — including some clients — because they could require marking down those assets and similar assets. In addition, Goldman’s marks would get picked up by competitors in dealer surveys. As a result, Goldman’s marks could contribute to other companies recording “mark-to-market” losses: that is, the reported value of their assets could fall and their earnings would decline.'

The first victims of Goldman’s decision in May 2007 to begin communicating its lower marks to the rest of the marketplace were the two Bear Stearns hedge funds that were heavily invested in complex and squirrelly mortgage securities. Although Goldman disputes the charge, the lower marks caused the two hedge funds to recalculate the funds’ net asset value, known in the business as N.A.V., and to re-issue to investors in June 2007 a far lower N.A.V. — down 19 percent, rather than down 6 percent. All hell broke loose. Soon enough, the funds’ investors were blocked from withdrawing their money, and by July the funds filed for bankruptcy and were soon liquidated. Investors lost much of the $1.5 billion they had invested. The liquidation of the two hedge funds led to the collapse of Bear Stearns nine months later."

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/16/how-goldman-killed-a-i-g-and-other-stories/?ref=opinion

Posted by: jnc4p | February 17, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious, I was just going to post it. I was developing my comment on its content, the sensational title was unnecessary, but this is no free market.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Lots of accusations that FoxNews is lying about Islam, but no evidence presented whatever to support these accusations. Yet another vacuous column.

Posted by: dcodco | February 17, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

[Adam sneers: "accusing the Imam of trying to impose Sharia, of having "ties to the Muslim Brotherhood" (at this point, who doesn't?) and that the project would be funded by terrorists"]

Is Adam suggesting these accusations are false? Because the evidence presented was pretty damning. Please tell us Adam has something (anything) new to refute the cited evidence supporting those charges.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2462

*not holding breath*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

You'd think the wingers on here worked for Fox in how they breathlessly defend it.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 17, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse

The comments are smart too, like this...

"GS was merely the first counterparty to catch on to the fact that the "products" (i.e., toxic derivative sludge) weren't as valuable as claimed, so I can't fault GS for protecting their interests and demanding that the contractual rules be followed. Where is this sentiment in all the anti-Goldman commentary?

While I've no affiliation with or love for Goldman or any of the Big Banks, I do respect GS for being the sharpest of the bunch. That said, only the Fed saved them from ruin via "backdoor bailouts" ... and I firmly believe they ought to have been ruined along with the vast majority of the financial institutions."

Thing is, an awful lot of that toxic sludge still exists, (about ~$1.5 trillion of sludge (worthless in mark to market terms) sits on F&F books and the rate of mortgages going bad is still increasing.

Most Americans don't know that or at least, wish not to believe that. The difference is, Wall Street isn't making markets for (derivative) betting on old mortgages, just the new ones! Whew, I feel so much better.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

"The U.S. mortgage delinquency rate fell last quarter as the economy improved (yay!), while the number of homes in the foreclosure process rose (booo!), the Mortgage Bankers Association on Thursday." Reuters

Hillary is talking now....

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"The BBC's Rana Jawad in Tripoli says: "Gathering information and verifying it here is often a difficult task. In times of heightened security, it has proven to be almost impossible. Since the initial protest broke out in Libya's second largest city of Benghazi, the most you'll get from trusted contacts there is a phone conversation that is abruptly cut short with a courteous: 'Everything's fine thanks, talk to you later.'"

But the tweets say people are being shot in considerable numbers. Gaddafi is such a pigdog. Remember that deal for the Lockerbie/PanAm terrorist the UK made for oil, the guy who was supposed to be in his last days from cancer, the guy who didn't die after all? Blood for oil.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

You'd think Plumline toadies (like mikey) worked for WaPo in their impotent and servile defenses.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi-

You do know the difference between opinion and ostensible "journalism", right?

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

KDE keeps using these words. I do not think they mean what he thinks they mean.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 17, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

[clawrence12: "I sure hope that Greg's editor ran the allegations in this story by legal first."]

Should they focus on the retraction or the apology first?

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

the right wing nuts defend faux news because they re-inforce and legitimize their ignorance and racism.

Posted by: calif-joe | February 17, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

[caliph-joe spat: "faux news... re-inforce and legitimize their ignorance and racism."]

Progressives lost their senior US Senator in that job. Just ask supporters of former KKK Grand Kleagle (recruiter) Senator Robert "Sheetz" Byrd (D-KKK) who famously bloviated, “There are white n!ggers. I’ve seen a lot of white n!ggers in my time. I’m going to use that word.”

Progressives referred to the Senate’s senior Democrat as the "conscience of the Senate." They downplay his Grand Kleagle’s white-sheet-wearing days as a “brief mistake” — as if joining the Klan were like knocking over a glass of water. Oopsy!

Own it, Leftists.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

[caliph-joe spat: "faux news... re-inforce and legitimize their ignorance and racism."]

It was SEIU union-goons (not Fox viewers)-- inspired by Obama's calls to "punch back twice as hard"-- who actually assaulted black tax protester, Ken Gladney, while screaming racial epithets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w

The only thing "re-inforced" was the media coverage of that hate crime.

Meanwhile, voters are still waiting for Eric Holder to appear before House oversight hearings and subpoenas involving the New Black Panther case.

It’s not like there’s video of them stalking the polling place with batons or anything... oh no, wait...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/31/us/politics/31holder.html?_r=2&hpw

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

@shrink2 "The comments are smart too, like this...

"GS was merely the first counterparty to catch on to the fact that the "products" (i.e., toxic derivative sludge) weren't as valuable as claimed, so I can't fault GS for protecting their interests and demanding that the contractual rules be followed. Where is this sentiment in all the anti-Goldman commentary?

While I've no affiliation with or love for Goldman or any of the Big Banks, I do respect GS for being the sharpest of the bunch. That said, only the Fed saved them from ruin via "backdoor bailouts" ... and I firmly believe they ought to have been ruined along with the vast majority of the financial institutions."

Thing is, an awful lot of that toxic sludge still exists, (about ~$1.5 trillion of sludge (worthless in mark to market terms) sits on F&F books and the rate of mortgages going bad is still increasing.

Most Americans don't know that or at least, wish not to believe that. The difference is, Wall Street isn't making markets for (derivative) betting on old mortgages, just the new ones! Whew, I feel so much better."

One thing I took from the op-ed was that Goldman had structured it's deals with AIG so it could have things both ways. I.e. the CDO was supposed to be insurance against an outside event causing the (estimated) value of the mortgages to decline, not Goldman itself through it's own market powers causing them to decline.

Posted by: jnc4p | February 17, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi, you're losing it pal!

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 17, 2011 1:31 PM | Report abuse

[Alex drooled: "the evidence is pretty clear that it is a right wing propaganda machine."]

[That is a jaw-droppingly stupid assertion.]

Pathetic.

C'mon... Even most right wingers admit it is more friendly to their views. Could Glen Beck spew his paranoid nonsense anywhere else? (Do you really believe that liberals and evil muslims are plotting together?)

I happen to work on some anti-terrorism cases. I am very aware of what the Muslim Brotherhood is and what is not. Yes, it is not secular political outfit per se, but nor is it the monochromatic force FoxNews portrays it as. In Egypt it has a long history of secular involvement in government and even then it has never held a majority there. In former Palestine, it took on a more violent jihadist tact when it eventually morphed into Hamas.

FoxNews would have you believing that all muslims are plotting behind your back. That somehow they are so different as to not be human anymore. I'm here to tell you that they are very human and in fact they come with a wide variety of beliefs; the vast majority of which are not extremist. Anymore than most Christians are extremist.

I know it is really hard to let go something you've been led to believe is not true, but go ahead and speak to real muslims. You'll find they like football, Pakistani food is awesome, and they aren't all that different from you or I. I know that is radically different from the news you receive on FoxNews, but seriously... turn off the TV and get outside for bit. Interact with real people and you'll find they are not the demons they are portrayed to be. You are allowing yourself to be exploited by those seeking fame by villifying others.

And BTW, I don't drool much when I talk. In fact I'm hardly the evil beast you are prepared to make me out to be. I drool in my sleep sometimes when really tired, but I suspect you do too. My poop stinks just like yours.

Please stop with the demonizing. Thank you.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 17, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

So what is the TRUTH about Islam that Fox News is telling lies about?

Is Islam the Religion of Peace? Just check out thereligionofpeaace.com to get the truth.

Islam doesn't want to establish Sharia law in America? Just listen to the Clerics preaching or just talking. They tell the TRUTH. It is our mainstream Media that prefers to have their head in the clouds, that is NOT telling the truth to the American public.

Shame on you for trying to turn the tables when it is YOU who is LYING!

I will be presenting a series on Islam to educate our great ignorant masses (like you). Just keep checking Unmitigated-Truth.com

www.unmitigated-truth.com

Posted by: Unmitigated-Truth | February 17, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi, the Moslems! They're coming for you! Sharia! Boo!

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 17, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Let KaddafiDelendaEst talk himself right out of credence. It's the American way.

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

[ronnieandrush boasted: "you're losing it pal!"]

By "losing it" you must mean totally dominating the empty-headed Islamo-supremacism denial campaign here.

16K+ deadly Islamo-supremacist attacks since 9/11 don't lie.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Try harder to keep up.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"Islam doesn't want to establish Sharia law in America?"

Evangelical Christians don't want to remove all restrictions on mixing church and government? Embed the 10 commandments in the constitution?

What's the difference?

Preachers, muslim or christian, can say whatever they want. Doesn't make it so. The truth is Sharia Law is not seriously being considered by any American in political spectrum. Take a deep breath and realize you are being used by those who want a cheap shot at political fame.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 17, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

[Alex drooled: "The idea of an Islamic plot to impose sharia law in the U.S. is false and has no bearing in reality."]

THAT was your jaw-droppingly stupid assertion. (try to keep up)

In May 1991, MB issued to its ideological allies an explanatory memorandum on "the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America." Asserting that the Brotherhood's mission was to establish "an effective and ... stable Islamic Movement" on the continent, this document outlined a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" for achieving that objective. It stated that Muslims "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands ... so that ... God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions."

Discover the Muslim Brotherhood @
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6386

Don't indulge in Islamo-supremacism denial your whole life, Alex.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

{the empty-headed Islamo-supremacism denial campaign here.}

Sigh.

You seeking political office Kaddafi? You sure are good at demonizing people.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 17, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

When will FOX-Y report on this information:

Muslims; 18 days; thousands, thousands and thousands of demonstrators; over-throw of a dictator; NO GUNS fired by them!!

Posted by: rbsher | February 17, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

{Don't indulge in Islamo-supremacism denial your whole life, Alex.}

At least I know something about what I am talking about. I seriously doubt you've ever sat in a muslim family's living room and broke bread with them.

Don't be a stooge for some politicians ploy.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 17, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Kaddafi, the Moslems!

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 17, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Alex3 whined: "At least I know something about what I am talking about. I seriously doubt you've ever sat in a muslim family's living room and broke bread with them."]

Clearly you're expertise ends with falafel. Because when it comes to the orchestrated global Islamo-supremacism campaign of the Muslim Brotherhood, you have demonstrated abysmal ignorance.

Cluebat: I could care less about your diet.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

@Alex3 "C'mon... Even most right wingers admit it is more friendly to their views. Could Glen Beck spew his paranoid nonsense anywhere else? (Do you really believe that liberals and evil muslims are plotting together?)"

Lou Dobbs had a pretty good run on CNN. As did some of the more partisan hosts on Crossfire.

Posted by: jnc4p | February 17, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

[rbsher: "Muslims; 18 days... NO GUNS fired by them!!"]

Fox doesn't report propaganda falsehoods.

BREAKING: At least 14 dead in Libya
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/at-least-14-anti0government-protesters-reported-dead-in-libya-1.343954

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

rbsher, I know, it makes me all weepy thinking about the people getting shot all over the Arab world thinking they might be able to become people too, with rights and dignity and stuff. I hope it is not in vain. We say we support democracy. Clinton's message today was good, the UN and England's message was better.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Sief Alnnaser Ali tolds Reuters he joined the pro-Gaddafi rallies because he wants to continue living in security: "To the Libyan people I say please do not make yourself a laughing stock. We the Libyans are living a good live. Even the foreigners eat with us."

Sorry Sief, the nascent Libyan tourism industry just died, again, and no one will come back until The Guide is gone. Bookings to Egypt, no problem, Libya, not on your life.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

[shrink2 wept: "it makes me all weepy thinking about the people getting shot all over the Arab world"]

...and the Persian world; and the Bosnian world; and the Thai world; and the Chechen world; in fact, everywhere global jihadists gain a foothold.

16K+ deadly Islamo-supremacist attacks globally since 9/11 don't lie.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Try harder to keep up.

But why do progressives get "all weepy" over conservative Fox viewers' revulsion over the public gang-rape *tournante* on CBS's Lara Logan a case of "Islamophobia"? or did mainstream media "Candorphobia" cause CBS to wrecklessly endanger their reporter?

*See "Battered Westerner Syndrome"
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0802/steyn1.asp

Try harder to resist your Candorphobia over better-informed Fox viewers, progressives.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Read the Koran. There are several excellent as-close-as-possible word for word translations available. Mohammed's early pronunciations are full of peace, love,justice for all and respect for Christianity and Judaism. Something musta happened to the old boy in there somewhere, he got downwrite mean there at the last, death to all non-believers, enforce Sharia law in ALL nations, OK to lie to non-believers in order to further the cause of Islam. You'll have to admit, Islam is pretty hard on adultery and homosexuality. (Death in both instances) I'll betcha that no one commenting on this has read even a little bit of the Koran, unless they are Muslim, and I'm not even sure about that, since the Koran recognizes only Arabic as the language acceptable to Allah, and most Muslims are encouraged to accept the interpretation of the clergy as to what is said in the Koran.
Wait until the Muslim Brotherhood slaps down the secular revolution in Egypt for an object lesson. I bet CNN won't want to take credit for that! Another object lesson in Muslim regard for Westerners, the reprehensible treatment of the CBS reporter, raped and beaten by a mob of Jihadis. A ballsier Pres. woulda sent in
the Marines. Might as well, we send them in for other reasons, not nearly as justifiable (Serbia, Iraq)

Posted by: dcook2 | February 17, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

"I'll betcha that no one commenting on this has read even a little bit of the Koran, unless they are Muslim." Wrong. Have you?

"Muslims are encouraged to accept the interpretation of the clergy as to what is said in the Koran." Wrong, they learn Arabic reading the Koran, they memorize the Koran. As for theocracy, it is a menace.

"Wait until the Muslim Brotherhood slaps down the secular revolution in Egypt for an object lesson." You'd love that, but it isn't going to happen. Now go away, isn't Rush still jabbering?

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

[shrink2 denied: "Muslim Brotherhood slaps down the secular revolution in Egypt... it isn't going to happen."]

Is that some kind of bad joke?

Q: What did the Cedar Revolutionary say to his Hezbollah master?

A: This isn't happening.

*slouching toward sharia*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

[shrink2 whimpered: "You'd love that, but it isn't going to happen."]

That's what CBS's Lara Logan muttered just before her *grand tournante* began.

*See "Battered Westerner Syndrome"
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0802/steyn1.asp

Try harder to look at the issue squarely and stop suppressing your obvious candorphobia over creeping sharia.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Fox and Friends’ Brian Kilmeade 10/15/10: “There was a certain group of people that attacked us on 9/11. It wasn’t just one person, it was one religion. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.”
------------------------------------

So all terrorist are Muslims? That's not a lie?

Posted by: ashotinthedark | February 17, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

The Irish Republican Army were freedom fighters, so were the Contras, Timothy McVeigh was a lone wolf (even though Nidal Hasan was a bone fide terrorist).

Ashot, you cite a non-Muslim terrorist and I'll supply the reframe, the side step, the rationalization.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

"he got downwrite mean there at the last, death to all non-believers, enforce Sharia law in ALL nations,
-------------------------------------
And what happens when Jesus returns? Do we continue to hold democratic elections here in the US? The end game for Christianity is all non-believers burning in hell, after suffering through a variety of plagues, famines etc. But yeah, be sure to get upset over death to all infedels.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | February 17, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

[ashotinthedark: "So all terrorist are Muslims? That's not a lie?"]

No, it's not a lie. It was an obvious gaff and you are quibbling. Kilmeade flubbed the opinion of Abdel Rahman al-Rashed (a Muslim and the general manager of Arab news channel, Al-Arabiya) who said it is a "fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2004/09/finally-cries-from-the-moderate-muslim-heart

So after hours of searching, that's the best shot progressives have? Fox&Friend's affable goofball, Brian Kilmeade?

*weak*

Grade: F- (miserable failure)

/dismissed

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I watch a multitude of channels- and yes I agree some of the Fox people are a bit clinical (Beck/Palin)for sure. But why dont you do a poll about the left leaning liberal main stream media that is the opposite extreme and sugar coats and keeps the truth to themselves as well? In general the media is a joke, their job is to report the news in an unbiased manner and the sad state of affairs is the fact that the news is now entertainment and expressing the views only of their ownership not the unbiased news. Fox has a multitude of issues to say the least, but if they were not around the world would be living in a glorified sugarcoated liberal state.
I for one have used the MEGA MOSQUE they plan on building at Ground Zero to read and educate myself about Islam and the Muslims- and its been an eye opening experience. I look around the world not in this country and see the problems that Islam has caused and the views they have maintained and I for one am convinced that this ideology masked as a religion has very serious flaws within it, and I know of no religion that can breed such evil in the name of god. Britain, Sweden, Netherlands, Italy, France, Russia, Greece, Australia, and on and on have seemed to have noticed the problem that immigration has caused. To deny this exists as the main stream media does is wrong in itself just as Fox might twist the truth for ratings at times, do not kid yourself about the opposite end of the spectrum.In time the truth will come out and the truth as you call it might not be what you want to hear, but its of great concern among tens of millions of people around the world not only in this country.

Posted by: nicky1430 | February 17, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

So; Muslims would appear to be only thing that Fox will not lie about;

"Fox faces fallout over misleading footage before Ron Paul interview"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20110217/ts_yblog_thecutline/fox-airs-misleading-footage-before-ron-paul-interview

"On Tuesday, Fox News anchor Bill Hemmer asked Ron Paul to respond to the chorus of boos that greeted news the insurgent small-government Texas congressman had won the Conservative Political Action Conference's presidential straw poll for the second year in a row. There was just one problem with Hemmer's question: The vocal chorus of boos didn't come from last week's 2011 CPAC as the network claimed; rather those boos were from the 2010 conference."

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

[ass_hat_inthedark spat: "And what happens when Jesus returns? ...The end game for Christianity is all non-believers burning in hell, after suffering through a variety of plagues, famines etc."]

Clearly you're mistaking the Biblical Jesus with the Koranic Isa (the Muslim false prophet). In Koranic end times, Isa becomes a warrior who will return with his sword and lance. He will destroy the Christian religion and make Islam the only religion in all the world. Finally at the last judgement he will condemn Christians to hell for believing in the crucifixion and the incarnation.
http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

The end game for Christianity is preaching the Gospel to non-believers about Christ's saving grace. Our only negative Biblical admonition is to shake the dust off our feet as a testimony against those who reject God's grace.

Try harder to avoid slandering our Lord Jesus Christ.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

One more note- in regard to the comment "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim"- well lets correct that 99.9% of terrorist attacks are due to Islam and Muslims- if you deny that then there is no use even discussing it any further. Thats reality and thats a fact-

As for Sharia in this land- a Multitude of Mulsims and Imam Rauf ( the first of 3 imams at the Mega Mosque) has clearly stated that one of his goals is to have Shariah recognized in the US, in England there are numerous courts that recognize Shariah as law.

As for Egypt- see the Pew Institute survey below in regard to the population adn their views- NO THIS IS NOT FROM FOX- if it were it would be called a lie- but Mr Bill Mahrer stated these numbers which to me are disturbing but then again- time will tell what occurs in Egypt and the future of the peacful loving Mulsim Brotherhood.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/02/pew_poll_offers_insights_in_eg.html

Posted by: nicky1430 | February 17, 2011 3:51 PM | Report abuse

@Liam: When did Ron Paul revert to Islam?

*weak*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I for one am convinced that this ideology masked as a religion has very serious flaws within it, and I know of no religion that can breed such evil in the name of god. Britain, Sweden, Netherlands, Italy, France, Russia, Greece, Australia, and on and on have seemed to have noticed the problem that immigration has caused. To deny this exists as the main stream media does is wrong in itself just as Fox might twist the truth for ratings at times, do not kid yourself about the opposite end of the spectrum.In time the truth will come out and the truth as you call it might not be what you want to hear, but its of great concern among tens of millions of people around the world not only in this country.

Posted by: nicky1430 | February 17, 2011 3:32 PM

.....................
That is the same hate speech that used to be spread throughout Europe and America ,about Jewish people, and that led to the Holocaust.

You are just another fascist hate monger.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Alex3 whined:...
[caliph-joe spat:...
[shrink2 denied:....
[shrink2 whimpered:....
[ronnieandrush boasted:
[ass_hat_inthedark spat:....
[Adam sneers:...
[Alex drooled;..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

[Liam sputtered: "Jewish people... the Holocaust... fascist hate monger."]

Leave it to Liam to gutter slurpy the Islamo-supremacist slander that anti-jihadists are all racists and fascists.

Remind folks again, what "race" is Islam?

Own your gutter fascist-hatemongering, progressives.
http://zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

[RandomAnon wikied: Psychological_projection]

Take your Haldol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haloperidol

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Remind folks again, what "race" is Islam?
===
Well, they certainly show an s-ton of Indonesian Muslims during all of the fear mongering. /s

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

[RandomAnon wikied: Psychological_projection]

Take your Haldol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haloperidol

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst
===
Take your own advice.

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

[RandomAnon garbled: "Well, they certainly show an s-ton of Indonesian Muslims during all of the fear mongering."]

huh? Your sentences are as incoherent as your brain droppings.

Now take your meds.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

[RandomAnon garbled: "Well, they certainly show an s-ton of Indonesian Muslims during all of the fear mongering."]

huh? Your sentences are as incoherent as your brain droppings.

Now take your meds.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst
===
Huh? Your retorts are as fair and balanced as the network you're so keen on defending.

Now hurry up and take your own advice already. I think the rest of the commenters have figured out your cherry-picking tactics by now.

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

[RandomAnon: "I think the rest of the commenters have figured out your cherry-picking tactics by now."]

precisely ...sauce for the gander.

/checkmate

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

So after hours of searching, that's the best shot progressives have? Fox&Friend's affable goofball, Brian Kilmeade?
---------------------------------------

Actually it was 3 seconds of searching because it was found in the linked article that this post is based on.
However, your response aptly demonstrates what sort of spin will occur when a Fox lie is posted: "he's a goofball" "it was just a mistake"

Posted by: ashotinthedark | February 17, 2011 4:35 PM | Report abuse

[RandomAnon: "I think the rest of the commenters have figured out your cherry-picking tactics by now."]

precisely ...sauce for the gander.

/checkmate

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst
===
In other words, you are an ideologue no one should waste their time on. You even espouse the tactic in your response.

I agree, checkmate. Good luck with the child-proof seal on your meds, bud.

Posted by: RandomAnon | February 17, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

[ashotinthedark admits: "he's a goofball" "it was just a mistake"]

Thanks for aptly demonstrating the intellectual bankruptcy of your weak counter-spin.

It was an obvious gaff and you are now pinwheeling away from the point he was making. Kilmeade was aping the opinion of Abdel Rahman al-Rashed (a Muslim and the general manager of Arab news channel, Al-Arabiya) who said it is a "fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2004/09/finally-cries-from-the-moderate-muslim-heart

So, that's the best progressives offer? Fox&Friend's affable goofball, Brian Kilmeade?

*weak*

Grade: F- (miserable failure)

/dismissed

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 17, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
~Adolph Hitler

Posted by: kariansari | February 17, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

So; Muslims would appear to be only thing that Fox will not lie about;

"Fox faces fallout over misleading footage before Ron Paul interview"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20110217/ts_yblog_thecutline/fox-airs-misleading-footage-before-ron-paul-interview

"On Tuesday, Fox News anchor Bill Hemmer asked Ron Paul to respond to the chorus of boos that greeted news the insurgent small-government Texas congressman had won the Conservative Political Action Conference's presidential straw poll for the second year in a row. There was just one problem with Hemmer's question: The vocal chorus of boos didn't come from last week's 2011 CPAC as the network claimed; rather those boos were from the 2010 conference."

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

"Fox News spend a significant amount of time in the past year furthering the baseless conspiracy that most American mosques are radicalized, that the Obama administration has been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood, and that Muslims in the U.S. are trying to impose Sharia law."

Baseless conspiracy? Or the writer's utter ignorance? Why does the WP give him such a prominent platform? He's not producing evidence, he's just trying to shout Fox News down.

Find out what Islam's really up to with the Historyscoper's Islam Watch Blog.

http://tinyurl.com/islamwatch

Posted by: tlwinslow | February 17, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

What's so bad about Shakira law anyway? (And yes, I kid.)

Posted by: mattintx | February 17, 2011 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I honestly don't know what is so bad about Sharia law since it is only applied to Muslims. As a Christian living in a Muslim country that imposes "Islamic" law I can't complain. I drink beer, eat pork, live with my girlfriend (not wife) and have about 4 credit cards that charge outrageous interest rates.

The regulations in Salt Lake City imposed on the general population by the Mormon majority are actually quite a bit stricter than what we have in Indonesia, Malaysia and Turkey.

Posted by: Southeasterner | February 17, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes Liam I am a racist against the land of Islam. I guess I can ask the Muslims that stood with me at the rally against the Mosque and tell them so. But then again I had no Idea that Muslims or Islam was considered a race either. That one issue has brought this Muslim issue to a head, and since most of Europe and their leaders are seeing the problem and its leaders are looking into remedies, but we should simply ignore it. Do some research on England, Sweden, Netherlands, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, and now Australia to name a few ? I guess they are all racist and facist as well, they are 20-30 years ahead of us in the realm of Muslim integration and its something we should learn from not ignore. There are fundamental problems with the Qaran plain and simple- does this mean all Muslims are evil, of course not, but the book and its point of view are very much a problem but then again I guess Fox published that as well.

Posted by: nicky1430 | February 17, 2011 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I collect political bumper stickers. One of my favorites-- " Fox Keeps Me Stupid" -- certainly applies here.

The Fox slogan "Fair and Balanced" was a stroke of genius.

Posted by: Albie1 | February 18, 2011 7:42 AM | Report abuse

[Southeasterner sneered: "The regulations in Salt Lake City... are actually quite a bit stricter than what we have in Indonesia"]

Naturally, that depends on what part of Indonesia you mean-- and whether you happen to wealthy (and submissive) enough to paying their sharia jizya.

"Indonesia: Sharia-Based Laws Creep into Half of Provinces"
http://au.christiantoday.com/article/indonesia-sharia-based-laws-creep-into-half-of-provinces/5367.htm

"...Sixteen of 32 provinces have passed laws influenced by sharia. These laws vary widely in form. In Padang, both Muslim and non-Muslim women are required to wear headscarves, while a law in Tangerang allows women found “loitering” alone on the street after 10.00 pm to be arrested and charged with prostitution. Other laws include stipulate Quran literacy among schoolchildren and severe punishment for adultery, alcoholism and gambling."

Don't repeat taqiya lies your whole life.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 18, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

They definitely exaggerate thing over at Fox because fear sells ad space.

Posted by: ozpunk | February 18, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

EXACTLY! Why all the focus on islam, when we have n!ggers right here in the USA!

Posted by: afrosheen | February 18, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

[ozpunk sputtered: "They definitely exaggerate thing over at Fox because fear sells"]

Leftists are definitely apathetic over the global jihad threat-- because candorphobia is their orthodoxy.

It is counter-rational to imply criticism of an ideology is phobic. This implies that the truth of that ideology is already established and any candid opposition is irrational.

16K+ deadly Islamo-supremacist attacks since 9/11 don't lie.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Try harder to remove your orthodox blinkers and think rationally about the global jihadi threat.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 18, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

that the project would be funded by terrorists.

Well, actually they had a point. One of the funders was the number two investor in Faux and they came up with all sorts of ties, real and imagined, between him and the jihadists. Of course, they were very careful not to mention his name or his ties to Faux.

Posted by: dkmjr | February 19, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I have to laugh at all the right wingers who are wetting their pants about the upcoming takeover of the world by the Moslem Jihadists. If you ever wanted more proof that right wingers are basically afraid of everything that moves and lots of things that don't, this is it. Why else would they insist on carrying weapons for "self protection?" In church even!

A brain scan study in England showed that the conservatives' amygdala, the fear center, was significantly larger than in nonconservatives. I'm waiting for the conservatives to start peeing their pants about the various christianist Reconstructionist groups that are bound and determined to bring what amounts to fundamentalist Sharia law (there are numerous versions varying from fundamentalist to liberal) to the US, only under a different name.

Posted by: dkmjr | February 19, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

As for those who somehow think that Faux has any credibility on anything, remember the staffer who told the media that Faux "just makes things up," that Murdoch and Ailes have sent down the message that everything has to have a right wing spin to it, truth be damned? It's difficult to argue that they are reliable when that kind of information comes out of their organization.

Posted by: dkmjr | February 19, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

nothing bad in fox conservatism,and this pool clearly shows leading in news presentation, neutrality of cnn, and hypocricy of msnbc liberal clowns who just critisizing fox ,islam is a real threat to our state ,our constitutional freedoms ,and way of life...and federal ban not only on sharia but on islamic ideology itself todays problem #1

Posted by: sammpatriot | February 24, 2011 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Post a Comment

We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features.

User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site. Please review the full rules governing commentaries and discussions.




characters remaining

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2011 The Washington Post Company