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Posted at 6:16 PM ET, 02/25/2011

Happy Hour Roundup

By Greg Sargent

* Dem Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana gives Scott Walker some friendly CEO-style advice: If you destroy the morale of your workers, "you are cutting your own throat."

* This user-friendly state-by-state guide to all the battles between state governments and public employees unfolding across the country gives you a sense of the scope of the national war.

* Hangin' tough: Wisconsin Dems say the latest tactics from Scott Walker and state senate Republicans has only increased their resolve to stay away longer.

* In fairness to Walker, you could hardly have expected him to call out (fake) Koch's crack about planting troublemakers, given how much money he's taken from the (real) guy.

* Takedown of the day: Dave Weigel does a nice job skewering Michelle Malkin's buffoonish and desperate hunt for signs of union thuggery in Wisconsin. Gosh, the lack of violence is so disappointing...

* TPM unmasks a shadowy conservative group that's behind a spate of polling supposedly showing support for Governor Walker.

* The odds of a government shutdown seem to wane as Senate Dems express support for the House GOP's latest proposal to keep the government funded, another sign that it's probably not worth getting too worked up over all the public posturing.

* John Boehner calls Bill Kristol to plot budget strategy.

* Jed Lewison on why Mitt Romney's continued embrace of Romneycare's state-level individual mandate shows Romney must believe state government has the power to force feed you broccoli.

* Perry Bacon has still more signs that gay rights are receding as a hot-button issue for the GOP.

* But: Eric Cantor seems to hint that the GOP is indeed looking at ways to step in and defend the Defense of Marriage Act, though he hasn't said how.

* I wonder if GOP leaders will embrace Rep. Steve King's megalomaniacal threat to single-handedly defund the Justice Department if it doesn't defend DOMA.

* The Bush legacy: Robert Gates tells an audience of cadets that we should never fight any regime change wars again.

* Coda on the Paul Broun story: His office tells Justin Elliott that in fact his seemingly blithe response was to a question that came after the remark about shooting Obama.

* History lesson of the day: Steve Kornacki on the "intense resentment that seems to flourish on the right whenever a Democrat is in the White House."

* And it turns out there's a very good reason why I enjoyed my McDonald's oatmeal so much the other day (trying to cut cholesterol) and have since had a hankering to go back for more.

What else is happening?

By Greg Sargent  | February 25, 2011; 6:16 PM ET
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Comments

"* History lesson of the day: Steve Kornacki on the "intense resentment that seems to flourish on the right whenever a Democrat is in the White House."."

Hi Greg! Great week of articles! A true professional!

I find the above observation particularly fascinating.

Great comments today everybody! Exceedingly enjoyable!

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 25, 2011 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Two thumbs up for McDonald's oatmeal!

Posted by: sbj3 | February 25, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Is the GOP backing away from shutting down the government?

"After a week of escalating rhetoric, House Republicans appear to be backing away from a possible shutdown, offering an olive branch to Senate Democrats with a short-term resolution to fund the federal government.

Late Friday afternoon, the House Appropriations Committee put out a new plan to extend funding for two weeks beyond the March 4 deadline to pass a continuing resolution or shut down the government. Included in the proposal are $4 billion in cuts broadly in line with Democratic proposals -- $1.24 billion from programs that President Obama has already called on Congress to cut and another $2.7 billion from removing all earmarks, another plan with White House backing.

"This is a vitally important measure to prevent a government shutdown and we sincerely hope that Senate Democrats will join us in supporting this reasonable measure that contains cuts and terminations that they have voiced support for," Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) said in a statement. Earlier that day, Cantor said in a conference call with reporters that a shutdown "is not an acceptable or responsible option for Republicans."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/republicans-back-down-from-shutdown-ledge.php?ref=fpi

Posted by: suekzoo1 | February 25, 2011 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Newt is egging them on to follow his path:

"Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich counseled Republicans Friday to stand by their principles and opt for another government shutdown if the alternative is compromising on their budget cutting promises.

In an op-ed in the Washington Post, Gingrich, a veteran of a government shutdown during his tenure as Speaker, defended the legacy of the GOP's decision during the 90s and urged the current class of Republicans to stand by their commitment to meaningfully address spending, even if it means grinding the government to a halt in an act like the one that proved damaging to the GOP majority in 1995. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/25/newt-gingrich-government-shutdown_n_828293.html

Posted by: suekzoo1 | February 25, 2011 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Oatmeal in a restaurant... a fast-food restaurant, at that.

I can make it at home in a microwave 10x cheaper and 7x faster than waiting in any line at any McDonald's.
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Posted by: jprestonian | February 25, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

You can't be serious that you go to McDonalds.

Forget about "healthy food," the place is an environmentalist's nightmare and is representative of all that is wrong in society (over-consumption, poor quality, kills local establishments, damages environment, bad agricultural practices, factory farms, on and on and on).

Now, this comment is coming from someone who really likes hamburgers. I just happen to like good quality hamburgers from local joints who aren't destroying the planet so they can serve radioactive cr@p masquerading as food.

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 25, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I think McDonalds has one of the biggest dropoffs from appearance of food in ads to appearance in the actual food. I was at one the other day to study and those fruit smoothies looked so damn delicious, so I ordered one. Basically turned out to be a tasteless purple slush.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 25, 2011 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Troll, what do you think of the White House cutting off military assistance to Libya and even closing the embassy? Too much, too little? What if the French or even more scary the Israelis, or worst of all the other Arab oil despots don't agree? What would you do?

Posted by: shrink2 | February 25, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I confess an addiction the the simple $1 Sausage Burrito @ McD's.

Won't eat another single thang on their menu (although I might sneak a french fry or two if someone else orders them).
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Posted by: jprestonian | February 25, 2011 6:41 PM | Report abuse

@sue: I'm not sure how a two-week CR with $4 billion in spending cuts represents a GOP capitulation? They are proposing to reduce spending at the same rate per week as the seven month CR the House passed before recess (the $61 billion cut).

Posted by: sbj3 | February 25, 2011 6:45 PM | Report abuse

"Troll, what do you think of the White House cutting off military assistance to Libya and even closing the embassy? Too much, too little?

One word: ballsy.

" What if the French or even more scary the Israelis, or worst of all the other Arab oil despots don't agree? What would you do?""

Convert them to Christianity. Except for the frogs. For them, nothing.

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 25, 2011 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Hi Greg,

I'm a regular Plum Line reader, but have never posted here before. I tried to email you re Rep. Paul Broun, but thought the comments section might be better.

An important point re Broun that I haven't seen covered anywhere -- his claim today that he condemns any suggestions of violence toward the President is completely belied by his statement last April at an NRA gathering:

"Fellow patriots, we have a lot of domestic enemies of the Constitution, and they're right down the Mall, in the Congress of the United States -- and right down Independence Avenue in the White House that belongs to us," Broun told the crowd. "It's not about my ability to hunt, which I love to do. It's not about the ability for me to protect my family and property against criminals, which we have the right to do. But it's all about us protecting ourselves from a tyrannical government of the United States."

I really hope someone in the media will ask him about this.

Posted by: leslielu1 | February 25, 2011 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Also, can you really "challenge" a country like Libya? They did, after all, find a cure for terminal prostate cancer. I just hope the cure doesn't die with gaddafi, er, Qaddafi, er, Khaddafi.

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 25, 2011 6:50 PM | Report abuse

"A Virginia man who encouraged the murder of Matt Stone and Trey Parker over an episode of "South Park" that portrayed the Muslim prophet Muhammed dressed as a bear was sentenced to 25 years in prison on Thursday."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110225/us_nm/us_southpark

Posted by: sbj3 | February 25, 2011 6:51 PM | Report abuse

""A Virginia man who encouraged the murder of Matt Stone and Trey Parker over an episode of "South Park" that portrayed the Muslim prophet Muhammed dressed as a bear was sentenced to 25 years in prison on Thursday.""

So let that be a warning to all you Scientologists!
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Posted by: jprestonian | February 25, 2011 6:55 PM | Report abuse

"Hangin' tough: Wisconsin Dems say the latest tactics from Scott Walker and state senate Republicans has only increased their resolve to stay away longer."
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It's only a matter of days until the layoffs start. The pinkos here will blame the whole mess on Walker of course, but the majority of Wisconsin voters are going to wonder why their Democratic senators are hiding out in Illinois while Wisconsin suffers.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:02 PM | Report abuse

"So let that be a warning to all you Scientologists!
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Posted by: jprestonian"

My jaw dropped when I heard that Chef was quitting because the show was making fun of Scientology and thus being intolerant towards religion.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 25, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"President Obama's promise of transparency came under fresh scrutiny this week, after Politico reported that his aides have been holding meetings with lobbyists off White House grounds so their names won't appear on public visitor logs. Is Obama breaking his promise to operate in the open?

"This is proof that the president's 'highfalutin rhetoric' about not meeting with lobbyists was nothing but a 'lie,' says Erick Erickson at RedState. Maybe Obama isn't inviting folks from the AFL-CIO to the Oval Office, but this amounts to the same thing. So much for 'the most transparent administration ever.'---theweek.com

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What hypocritical scum.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Pearls from DDAWD:
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"That legislation made absolutely no difference in how I voted since I read the news and am informed on the issues. But so many people just aren't bothered to think things through."

"Not that I listen to Juan Williams much, but is he really that liberal? I've never heard him say anything liberal.
Maybe Williams is a moderate who is called a liberal because of his race?"

Posted by: DDAWD | February 25, 2011
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He's informed on the issues, but he doesn't think Juan Williams is a liberal--- because he's on FOX. I guess Pat Buchanan isn't really a conservative, because he appears on MSNBC.

You could never just make it up. Who needs Comedy Central when we have DDAWD.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:14 PM | Report abuse

"John Boehner calls Bill Kristol to plot budget strategy."

The man who has never been right about anything... ever? This country is so screwed.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 25, 2011 7:14 PM | Report abuse

@jpreston: "So let that be a warning to all you Scientologists!"

South Park visionaries Trey Parker and Matt Stone officially join the Broadway community tonight with the first preview performance of their new musical The Book of Mormon

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/theater/20mormon.html/

Posted by: sbj3 | February 25, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

"...a cure for terminal prostate cancer..."

That was spectacular. It couldn't have been the change in humidity. I mean, it was not just terminal, the poor guy, he had just days to live, more days than the folks who boarded the PanAm flight...but that is a non sequitur, I don't even know why I brought that up.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 25, 2011 7:19 PM | Report abuse

@brigade: Still head and shoulders over Bush and Cheney having the extractive industry lobbyists write government energy policy and then not even saying who was at the table.

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 7:19 PM | Report abuse

"The Book of Mormon"

If they make fun of magic jammies,
they are trying to push the 2012
Republican choice to Palin.

Investigation!

Posted by: shrink2 | February 25, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

hpridesop @ February 25, 2011 3:15 PM wrote "WHAT ARE PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH GOING TO DO WHEN THEY GET TO HEAVEN AND GOD IS OF ANOTHER COLOR."

That is a very good question. After all, the Christ was born Semitic. That means with a fairly dark complexion. And, oh yes, he did not speak English ;)

Posted by: AMviennaVA | February 25, 2011
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We know he was from Nazareth. He probably resembled the indigenous people of the region. Granted, it's doubtful he had blue eyes and blonde hair, but what is your source that he had a "fairly dark complexion?" To whom would he have had reason to speak English during his time on earth? Was there some larger point?

I doubt that most people who get to heaven will worry much about God's color, but I get the point. It's the black self-loathers like Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright who demand that Jesus be black, although that's about as likely as the blonde hair and blue eyes. Does Benjamin Netanyahu have black skin? Oh wait, those Zionists currently occupying Israel are just imposters---according to Loonie Louie. The "real" Jews were black.

And then, from some bozo calling himself KT11:
"Most of them, especially those living in southern states like Georgia still can't accept a black-skinned man as their president."

Michael Vick has black skin. Barack Obama does not have black skin. His mother was white. You'd better stick to the "people of color" crap---it fits anyone and everyone. Then you won't appear to be the moron that you are.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:33 PM | Report abuse

"You'd better stick to the "people of color" crap---it fits anyone and everyone."

So true, we are all crap, mud races. I think so, racial arguments all degenerate into name calling. That is what we are trying to get away from.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 25, 2011 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't aware of what Cao said, but I have to wonder why Tao considers that some oddball living in Vietnam, spouting rubbish on a blog, is the equivalent of an elected Congressman holding a townhall meeting.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 25, 2011
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Even ole Liam gets one right every now and then. Cao is just a perverted blog troll. Always has been.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:40 PM | Report abuse

The man who has never been right about anything... ever? This country is so screwed.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 25, 2011 7:14 PM
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You must be talking about Barry. We're definitely screwed---at least for another couple of years.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

@brigade: In fact, most african americans are a mix of African, Caucasian, and native ancestry. Unless Vick was the child of African immigrants, chances are he is also of mixed race, and hence your comment is as mistaken as the rest of your rants.

Race as a biological concept has no validity. There is more intra "race" genetic variation than there is variation between "races".

But, socially and politically, the "one drop" rule so brutally enforced in pre civil rights era America, makes Obama as "black" as anyone else to those who still cling to their backwards views and beliefs about "them".

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse

@brigade: Still head and shoulders over Bush and Cheney having the extractive industry lobbyists write government energy policy and then not even saying who was at the table.

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 7:19 PM
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How do you know what's better? Who's he meeting with? What influence do they have?
The point you seem to miss is that Obama is a liar and a hypocrite.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:45 PM | Report abuse

@brigade: In fact, most african americans are a mix of African, Caucasian, and native ancestry. Unless Vick was the child of African immigrants, chances are he is also of mixed race, and hence your comment is as mistaken as the rest of your rants.

Race as a biological concept has no validity. There is more intra "race" genetic variation than there is variation between "races".

But, socially and politically, the "one drop" rule so brutally enforced in pre civil rights era America, makes Obama as "black" as anyone else to those who still cling to their backwards views and beliefs about "them".

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 7:44 PM
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You're having some trouble with your comprehension skills. If you'll read the post, the issue was "black skin" not status as African American. Michael Vick's skin is much darker than Barack Obama's, thus the "people of color" point. And the "one drop" nonsense is relevant only to idiots who believe all who voted against Obama are bigots---people like you and DDAWD. So, you see, my rant was on the money and yours, as usual, was mistaken.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 7:55 PM | Report abuse

"You'd better stick to the "people of color" crap---it fits anyone and everyone."

So true, we are all crap, mud races. I think so, racial arguments all degenerate into name calling. That is what we are trying to get away from.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 25, 2011 7:39 PM
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Exactly, but victim status requires hanging on to racial status, even when the whole thing gets silly. If you're opposed to Obama, then you hate "black" people; if you're opposed to illegal immigration then you hate "brown" people. If you wish to set the whole world against people with blonde hair and blue eyes, then you can just use "people of color." That even catches Asians.

I can't imagine why a white person like me spent so much of his youth hearing about the dangers of the mean ole Russians and the Nazis. Why, they hardly qualify as "people of color." Why should I hate them? Is it okay for a black American in the military to shoot a Muslim in Afghanistan, provided the Muslim has skin that isn't too dark?

If an Australian aborigine had suddenly appeared in the antebellum South, would he have been enslaved or given the keys to the city? He would have been a "person of color" and very probably black skinned, but he wouldn't have had any recent connection to Africa. What about a South Sea Islander? The whole thing gets so confusing---a fellow just can't keep track of whom he's supposed to hate.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. Nine comments Troll Hunted in this thread now, too, but no formatting/CSS issues.

Maybe it has to do with number of characters hidden, or perhaps formatting that the **blocked** person has included...?
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Posted by: jprestonian | February 25, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

@brigade: And then, from some bozo calling himself KT11:
"Most of them, especially those living in southern states like Georgia still can't accept a black-skinned man as their president."

It is clear that KT11 is referring to Obama as a minority person that some in the majority Caucasian, and in the laws of pre-1995 America, both vick and Obama are equally inferior.

And for the record, I never said or implied that everyone who voted against Obama opposed him exclusively because he is black or even that it was the main reason they oppose him. As a mixed race person, I do believe that there is a substantial minority of Obama haters that do hold animus toward him because of his "race." I have experienced subtle and not so subtle discrimination based on "race". It is my experience that a substantial part of the US population continue to hold opinions of people based on skin color. All of the birther nonsense and the Muslim nonsense is really more about his race than these canards.

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

correction pre-1965

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 8:20 PM | Report abuse

For anyone interested in an example of integration and racial harmony in "pre civil rights era America", google Buxton, Iowa. That was a hundred years ago, and more. But when the town dried up and the people moved on, African-Americans found the big cities much less hospitable. Interesting stuff.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 8:24 PM | Report abuse

@brigade:I can't imagine why a white person like me spent so much of his youth hearing about the dangers of the mean ole Russians and the Nazis.

First, If you heard about the dangers of the Nazis, you have to be over 80, since the war ended in 1945 and fear of Nazis pretty much faded after that.

In Chicago where I grew up, as rampant block busting was inflicted on neighborhood after neighborhood, being taught to "keep to your own kind" and that those n*ggers are just lazy, crime committing, white woman raping, animals was common. If you don't see the pernicious remnants of racial discrimination, you are not looking.

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 8:28 PM | Report abuse

@brigade:For anyone interested in an example of integration and racial harmony in "pre civil rights era America", google Buxton, Iowa.

Buxton is the exception that proves the rule...

For anyone interested in how many blacks were treated, how segregation was brutally enforced, even in the north, learn about the "sundown towns".

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"From Maine to California, thousands of communities kept out African Americans (or sometimes Chinese Americans, Jewish Americans, etc.) by force, law, or custom. These communities are sometimes called "sundown towns" because some of them posted signs at their city limits reading, typically, "N*gger, Don't Let The Sun Go Down On You In ___." Some towns are still all white on purpose. Their chilling stories have been joined more recently by the many elite (and some not so elite) suburbs like Grosse Pointe, MI, or Edina, MN, that have excluded nonwhites by "kinder gentler means." When I began this research, I expected to find about 10 sundown towns in Illinois (my home state) and perhaps 50 across the country. Instead, I have found more than 440 in Illinois and thousands across the United States. This is their story; it is the first book ever written on the topic.

http://sundown.afro.illinois.edu/sundowntowns.php

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

First, If you heard about the dangers of the Nazis, you have to be over 80, since the war ended in 1945 and fear of Nazis pretty much faded after that.

In Chicago where I grew up, as rampant block busting was inflicted on neighborhood after neighborhood, being taught to "keep to your own kind" and that those n*ggers are just lazy, crime committing, white woman raping, animals was common. If you don't see the pernicious remnants of racial discrimination, you are not looking.

Posted by: srw3 | February 25, 2011 8:28 PM
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Hollywood is still using Nazi villains. It causes less furor than, say, Muslim extremists.

I don't doubt the pernicious remnants of racial discrimination. It can be litigated to some extent, but you really can't outlaw what's in people's minds and hearts. There's a certain tribal quality to most human interaction. In many of the metropolitan areas of a hundred years ago, it wasn't just African-Americans who were expected to keep to their own kind. Italians, Poles, Irish, Germans, Jewish, Asians, et al., pretty much all immigrants had their own ethnic enclaves. And they all had choice slurs with which to denigrate members of the other communities.

I'm not suggesting that any other groups endured the sort of awful discrimination to which African Americans were subjected. One of the advantages enjoyed by the children of European immigrants was that, once they learned unbroken English, you couldn't tell by looking at them just where they were from. So when Dino Paul Crocetti became Dean Martin, he was just like everyone else, whereas Sammy Davis Jr. was always a black man.

Things are better than they used to be, and we can hope they will continue to improve.

Posted by: Brigade | February 25, 2011 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Each of us have two parents, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents...in the 70 generations since Jesus we each have 2 to the 70th power ancestors. That is, we each had 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ancestors 2011 years ago. But there were only 200,000,000 persons alive then.

You figure it out

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 25, 2011 8:53 PM | Report abuse

"And for the record, I never said or implied that everyone who voted against Obama opposed him exclusively because he is black or even that it was the main reason they oppose him."

No one says that. The only ones who claim that others say it are the ones who want a blank check for bigotry.

And there's plenty of racism out there. You think the people say Obama wasn't born in the US are having a policy disagreement?

Um, yeah.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 25, 2011 9:02 PM | Report abuse

""You think the people say Obama wasn't born in the US are having a policy disagreement?""

I honestly don't know what the the hail those folx are thinking. Latching onto the thinnest reed ever, is all I can figure.
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Posted by: jprestonian | February 25, 2011 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker asked to leave restaurant friday night because of excessive booing

http://mymindstain.blogspot.com/2011/02/scott-walker-asked-to-leave-local.html?spref=tw

Posted by: jn2375 | February 25, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Still working (!) and I look in here, ugh...arguing

"victim status requires hanging on to racial status"

This is important and true. Sure all the powerful people are white men. It is because they are not colored people and not women and that war happened and we won. Anyone who thinks they are equal in every way and can get power because they are not white: white men control the world, you do not get to displace them without a fight.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 25, 2011 9:31 PM | Report abuse

"Troll, what do you think of the White House cutting off military assistance to Libya and even closing the embassy? Too much, too little? What if the French or even more scary the Israelis, or worst of all the other Arab oil despots don't agree? What would you do? Posted by: shrink2"

Not much of either. With everything in flux and essentially no way to guess the outcome, (but somebody kills Kadaffi and probably his sons to make things more confused.) pulling our diplomatic mission and military assistance mission, (and thereby ending arms sales and assistance) until somebody emerges who actually seems to be in charge is common sense.

The real question, all across the lands of the original Muslim conquest is, do the kids get their way or do the elders and the religious authorities reestablish conservative authority? Figure out how to figure that out and be the Intelligence Analyst of the fin de sicele.

Posted by: ceflynline | February 25, 2011 9:34 PM | Report abuse

"I confess an addiction the the simple $1 Sausage Burrito @ McD's. Won't eat another single thang on their menu (although I might sneak a french fry or two if someone else orders them). Posted by: jprestonian "

McD's has two very good justifications for eating.

1. You know exactly what you are getting, card board box to cardbord bun. So half way across Iowa enroute to Omaha with kids in the car you aren't guessing when you stop for food and restroom breaks.

2. Half way across Iowa and the kids need a restroom, McD's shows up. No rest areas for another hour listed. McD's understands.

Posted by: ceflynline | February 25, 2011 9:39 PM | Report abuse

cef, when driving across TX use Whataburger.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 25, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing Whataburger doesn't make a very good breakfast burrito, though.
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Posted by: jprestonian | February 25, 2011 9:50 PM | Report abuse

"cef, when driving across TX use Whataburger."

Well, I would agree, however, not every Texas town has one. They will have either a Sonic or a Dairy Queen though. The one's with both we call cities, Dallas and Austin are two examples, and if they have all three we call it Houston. ;-)

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 25, 2011 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"I'm guessing Whataburger doesn't make a very good breakfast burrito, though."

It's the best, actually!

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 25, 2011 9:56 PM | Report abuse

""It's the best, actually!""

You say too many silly thangs for me to believe this, actually. ;)
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Posted by: jprestonian | February 25, 2011 9:58 PM | Report abuse

"All across the lands of the original Muslim conquest is, do the kids get their way or do the elders and the religious authorities reestablish conservative authority?"

Religious authority is the original conservative cudgel. China has to beat the kids with a different weapon.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 25, 2011 10:19 PM | Report abuse

This won't be a surprise to anyone, but it's interesting to hear it stated so explicitly. Video in the link. We can't all be CEO's or have the same interests as they do, the ole trickle down didn't really work out as well as they promised. I'm just surprised there's still a following for it in the general population.

""In a speech earlier this month at the Conservative Political Action Committee’s annual conference, Americans For Prosperity-Michigan Executive Director Scott Hagerstrom revealed the true goal of his group and its allies like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s (R) efforts. Speaking at CPAC’s “Panel for Labor Policy,” Hagerstrom said that AFP really wants to do is to “take the unions out at the knees”:

HAGERSTROM: It’s easy to go out there and fight taxes and increased regulation, you know we send out an action alert on taxes to AFP and we get thousands of people to respond. You send out one on a more complicated issue and it just doesn’t quite resonate…We fight these battles on taxes and regulation but really what we would like to see is to take the unions out at the knees so they don’t have the resources to fight these battles.""

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/25/afp-union-knees/

Posted by: lmsinca | February 25, 2011 10:45 PM | Report abuse

evenin' shrink!

"Religious authority is the original conservative cudgel."
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"The unpopular parts of Christianity turn out when examined to be the very props of the people. The outer ring of Christianity is a rigid guard of ethical abnegations and professional priests; but inside that inhuman guard you wil find the old human life dancing like children, and drinking wine like men; for Christianity is the only frame for pagan freedom. But in the modern philosophy the case is opposite; it is its outer ring that is obviously artistic and emancipated; its despair is within." [Chesterton; "Orthodoxy"]
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Dewey, Sartre, Chomsky, Foucault...zoloft.

And then, Charlie Sheen.

{{{the Dream of Peter Singer}}}

Posted by: tao9 | February 25, 2011 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Big business plum for Gov. Jerry Brown -- powerhouse LA Chamber endorses budget plan and special election

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=83830#ixzz1F2ENozN8
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Looks like the business community likes Gov. Brown's budget plan which is about 1/2 cuts and 1/2 raising taxes.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 25, 2011 11:15 PM | Report abuse

12Bar, I saw that earlier, let's hope and pray his plan works.


This is kind of mean, but what can you do? Public opinion is public opinion.

""Sometimes, it’s good to leave detached, cerebral meta-analyses of politics aside and just get a taste of public opinion being expressed the old-fashioned way.

Wisconsin blogger Naomi Hauser reports tonight (via Howie Klein on Twitter):

The Merchant [a restaurant] in Madison, WI confirms that on Friday night, Patrick Sweeney (one of the owners) politely asked Scott Walker to leave the establishment when other customers began booing him. A bartender at The Merchant said that ‘his presence was causing a disturbance to the other customers and management asked him to leave.’""

Posted by: lmsinca | February 25, 2011 11:29 PM | Report abuse

lms,

Did you see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGDp581g9t0

I'm not surprised that the Governor is not very popular with the people of his state.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 25, 2011 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Contrast Gov. Walker who can't go out for dinner without being booed and Jerry Brown who flies to LA on Southwest coach, without security, and just chats everyone up.

I don't think Gov. Walker was really cut out for politics. He's more the enforcer type.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 25, 2011 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Walker doesn't seem to have that "how to make friends and influence people" thing down yet. Going to LA tomorrow for one of the solidarity rallies for the middle class, looks like a big crowd rain and all. Have a nice weekend.

Posted by: lmsinca | February 25, 2011 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Good for you. Maybe the Gov. will be there.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 25, 2011 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Lewison is an idiot. The commerce clause has nothing to do with state governments, so yea actually a state could force you to buy insurance, broccoli or anything else. And how does not buying broccoli not effect commerce? If I stop buying broccoli that would reduce broccoli commerce would it not? H.W. Bush said he didn't like broccoli and he had to backpedal fast because broccoli growers thought he would hurt commerce. If the feds can make us buy insurance it's really not that big a leap to say they can make us buy broccoli.

Posted by: Truthteller12 | February 26, 2011 2:50 AM | Report abuse

Well, when sheet-white Bush was running up deficits and bailing out banks there was no tea party and no take-back-our-country talk. No conservative anguish about blowing over ten grand for every man, woman, and child in America on two wars nobody needed.

Then Obama comes along, adds incrementally to the deficit to avert a repeat of the Great Depression, and suddenly conservatives are gearing up for Mad Max. Tea Party, vaporub commentary, paranoia and secret handshakes.

Two differences: president's party, president's race.

But suggest the latter is relevant and you're playing the victim card.

Yeah, fight.

Posted by: caothien9 | February 26, 2011 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Another Gov. Walker Lie!

http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/02/25/the-wisconsin-lie-exposed-taxpayers-actually-contribute-nothing-to-public-employee-pensions/

AND

Scott Walkers's DARK, ILLEGAL PAST, Behind the Chior Boy Face!

http://www.politicususa.com/en/scott-walker-dirty-illegal-campaigning

Posted by: wdsoulplane | February 26, 2011 6:29 AM | Report abuse

All, check out this new ad unions are airing against Scott Walker -- absolutely brutal:

http://wapo.st/hl7oKc

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 26, 2011 8:38 AM | Report abuse

All the little lefties are hung up on race, as usual. Left-wing, liberal progressive types are the most race conscience people in America. Instead of the boogey man under their beds, they see racists. Everything is based on race with them. It's race, race, race all the time.

Liberals hated Nixon, they despised Reagan, they broke out in hives over Bush. The hate fest was constant and hysterical.

BUT, just because Barack Hosni Obama has a black daddy, conservatives aren't allowed to dislike him because to do so proves conservatives are bad racists.

It's all hogwash!

Forget that Obama is the most liberal liberal who ever fooled gullible Americans into voting for him.

Forget that Obama is a barely closeted Marxist with a socialist worldview.

Forget that Obama has bankrupted America in two years time.

Forget that Obama has allied himself with foreign governments to wage political war against American states on the behalf of foreign invaders laughingly called "immigrants:.

Forget that Obama is held hostage by the radical, homosexual lobby and has homosexualized America's armed forces and now trying to destroy traditional marriage.

Forget Obama refuses to enforce duly enacted laws simply because he does not like them.

There are so many reasons for conservatives to despise B.O. that RACE...... PALES IN COMPARISON.

Get over the race thing you racialist lefties. Racial paranoia will destroy ya.

Posted by: battleground51 | February 26, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Obviously Greg has some sort of learning disability because he shows little intelligence however I must give him a huge amount of credit.

He has managed to derive income by printing Democrat National Committee talking points. He gets the fax every morning, hands it to someone to work the keyboard for him and then goes and plays with shiny objects in the corner.

Nice job Greggie!

Posted by: manbearpig4 | February 26, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

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