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Posted at 12:52 PM ET, 02/10/2011

House Republican on health law repeal: Time for GOP to "put up or shut up"

By Greg Sargent

In another sign that the politics of repeal are far from a slam dunk for many Republicans, a House GOPer went way off the national Republican Party's message on the health law, dismissing the House vote for repeal as merely "ceremonial" and saying it was time for the GOP to "put up or shut up" on their promise to "repeal and replace."

GOP Rep. Richard Hanna of New York made the comments in an interview with the Auburn Citizen. He discusses the recent House repeal vote as follows:

I didn't like the format. But those were the votes. That was the opportunity I was given. I had to vote up or down. So the idea to repeal it without reforming what is already here is not something I look forward to. But they did that...

This in many ways was looked at as kind of a ceremonial vote. Because let's face it, the Senate isn't going to approve it, and the President of course isn't.

And Hanna also said the onus is on Republicans to make good on their vow to repeal and replace, specifically saying that the alternatives GOPers have advanced thus far are "not viable":

They've complained for two years about this health care bill. They've offered alternatives, but they're not alternatives that are in many ways viable. Well, now they have to put up the goods. They have to say "here's what we're presenting, here's why it will work."...

Let's see what they do. I say give them a chance. Let the Republican party put up or shut up.

This comes after GOP Rep. Sean Duffy of Wisconsin said the other day that the House GOP leadership had to talk him into voting for repeal, and only did so after the leadership promised him they were serious about offering solutions to replace reform.

While one doesn't want to make too much of the fact that two Republicans have talked openly along these lines, their comments strongly suggest that some GOPers are skeptical of the leadership's promise to come up with their own replacement solutions, and will exert pressure on them to come through on that vow. Even if there's no denying that the health reform law is unpopular, it seems clear that some Republicans are aware that the politics of repeal are potentially treacherous for them and that they need to tread very carefully.

By Greg Sargent  | February 10, 2011; 12:52 PM ET
Categories:  Health reform, House GOPers  
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Has Paul Ryan found his Health Care Reform Bill from 2009 yet?He said he had it ready to go, back in 2009.

Ask Paul Ryan; Where Is The Beef that you claimed to have put in the freezer, until such time as your party took control of the kitchen? Did he ever really have such a reform bill, or was he just using The Big Lie tactic. I think he was just telling The Big Lie.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 10, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Hit the reset button!

Repeal-- THEN replace.

Cart-- then horse.

Since Senate Democrats have defied Federal rulings and refused to repeal Pelosi's unconstitutional law, Republicans now have to push repeal through the courts.

One proposal being supported by Republican Congressman Paul Broun from Georgia (who is also a family physician) would let people buy insurance across state lines; let individuals and businesses create insurance associations to reduce costs; create high-risk pools to cover those with pre-existing conditions and make all health care costs 100 percent tax deductible.

“It will be a patient-centered system... Patients will own their own insurance policy so it solves the portability problem... It would give patients an option of finding low cost health insurance that they control.”

*Reset*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 10, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Playing House was fun while it lasted. It serves to deflect attention from Republicans' inability to do anything important until Obama's second term is up.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 10, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"Their comments strongly suggest that some GOPers are skeptical of the leadership's promise to come up with their own solutions to replace reform, and will exert pressure on them to come through on that vow."

As Martha would say, "And that's a good thing."

Posted by: sbj3 | February 10, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Has Paul Ryan found his Health Care Reform Bill from 2009 yet?He said he had it ready to go, back in 2009.

Ask Paul Ryan; Where Is The Beef that you claimed to have put in the freezer, until such time as your party took control of the kitchen? Did he ever really have such a reform bill, or was he just using The Big Lie tactic. I think he was just telling The Big Lie.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 10, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Cantor: Continuing Resolution Will De-fund ObamaCare
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/majority-leader-cantor-continuing-resolu

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) told CNSNews.com today that “one way or the other” the upcoming continuing resolution necessary to keep the government funded through fiscal 2011 will deny funding to the ObamaCare law.

*Starve the beast*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 10, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

The Giant Camel in the room, that all of our major Political Leaders, and all of our Major Media outlets, and all our Political Pundits, keep pretending not to notice.

Egypt has been ruled by the Mubarak Regime, in almost the exact same way that The Baathist Party ruled Iraq.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 10, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

[Liam drooled: "Egypt has been ruled by the Mubarak Regime, in almost the exact same way that The Baathist Party ruled Iraq."]

Hyperbolic rubbish. Of the 22 legitimate casus belli cited by Congress against Saddam, Mubarak has NEVER been accused of anything so egregious.

Saddam did try to kill a former American president; the U.N. embargo was violated (as were its inspection protocols); the 1991 accords were ignored; the genocide of brave Kurds did happen; suicide bombers were being given bounties; terrorists (including those involved into the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) were given sanctuary by Saddam; and on and on.
http://www.husseinandterror.com/

Our Egyptian ally, President Mubarak, did nothing nearly as egregious.

*hyperbole*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 10, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

15 mins ago

CAIRO – State TV says Egypt's information minister has denied that President Hosni Mubarak will step down.

The comment by Anas el-Fiqqi, in a written scroll on state television, comes ahead of an address by Mubarak to the nation

Posted by: Liam-still | February 10, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

he Giant Camel in the room, that all of our major Political Leaders, and all of our Major Media outlets, and all our Political Pundits, keep pretending not to notice.

Egypt has been ruled by the Mubarak Regime, in almost the exact same way that The Baathist Party ruled Iraq.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 10, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Has Paul Ryan found his Health Care Reform Bill from 2009 yet?He said he had it ready to go, back in 2009.

Ask Paul Ryan; Where Is The Beef that you claimed to have put in the freezer, until such time as your party took control of the kitchen? Did he ever really have such a reform bill, or was he just using The Big Lie tactic. I think he was just telling The Big Lie.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 10, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

OT:

GOP Honeymoon Over

A new Public Policy Polling survey finds Democrats leading the generic congressional ballot by four points, 45% to 41%, an 11 point swing since the November elections. Democrats also hold a seven point lead, 38% to 31%, among independent voters.

The poll also finds House Speaker John Boehner's approval rating sinking into negative territory, 28% to 30%.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/02/10/gop_honeymoon_over.html

Commenter formerly known as Ethan2010, howdy-do everybody! ;)

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 10, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Howdy do, Ethan! I rarely read/post lately, but good to see you and your new handle.

Posted by: Michigoose | February 10, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Rep. Hanna makes an interesting attempt to distance himself from his party:

"they've complained"
"they've offered"
"they have to"
"Let's see what they do."
"give them a chance"
"Let the Republican party put up or shut up."

Rep. Hanna needs to change "they" to "we" and accept some responsibility for the sorry state of the GOP when it comes to offering policy solutions. He help elect the House leadership he is complaining about.

Posted by: bearclaw1 | February 10, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

yup yup, no reason to have seperate votes on repeal and replace. Hash out the details for the replacement plan. Then once that is done, add one line to the end repealing PPACA.

Then vote. Ez game.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 10, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

John Boehner's Repeal And Replace Home Improvement Business.

First we will come and remove all your doors and windows. Then we will go back to our offices and discuss what sort of windows and doors we should start to construct, to replace those we removed from your home.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 10, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The Republican campaign positions were:

1. Repeal and replace the ACA;
2. Create jobs;
3. Cut $100 billions from this year's budget.

I gather one of these days they will get around to talking about how to discuss the way to plan how they will develop an approach to redefine their campaign positions.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | February 10, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Michigoose! All in good fun, right? hehehe

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 10, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Ethan!! :o)

Posted by: suekzoo1 | February 10, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"Commenter formerly known as Ethan2010, howdy-do everybody! ;)"

Welcome back. Why the change?

Posted by: jnc4p | February 10, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Ethan was gone?

Posted by: sbj3 | February 10, 2011 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Thats good stuff from Hannah-too bad he's from New York and not, say, Alabama...

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 10, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Sue! You surviving the winter?

Posted by: Michigoose | February 10, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

ronnieandrush!

Came back to take credit for Egypt, didya?

Posted by: wbgonne | February 10, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

All, check this out, a new poll finds that Americans LOVE government spending:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/02/the_american_people_love_gover.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 10, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

In other news...
"The federal government's budget deficit grew by $50 billion in January and is expected to finish the year as the highest in history. The Treasury Department says the deficit was one of the highest ever for the month of January, second only to the $63 billion deficit recorded two years ago...The Congressional Budget Office is projecting a record deficit of $1.5 trillion this budget year, which ends in September. The estimate was revised upward last month based on a tax-cut package brokered between the White House and Republicans that will add $400 billion to this year's red ink." AP

We should cut taxes even more because that way the deficit will get better and there will be jobs for everyone who wants one. It is clear, this idea works, all evidence to the contrary.


Posted by: shrink2 | February 10, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

LOL, sbj3.

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 10, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey everybody :)

Yeah, so I got sick of the peanut gallery and added every single conservative commenter on here to Kevin's Troll Hunter, then next thing you know, all of my comments were being held by the moderator or site owner or something.

I finally decided to fire up a gmail account and the rest is history.

Why "ronnieandrush"? I got it from one of the emails off Floyd Brown's Expose Obama list.

Posted by: ronnieandrush | February 10, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

That's an idea I can run with. They talk replace but there has been 0 bills introduced that would classify as replacement. I hope Rep Hanna will either keep this pressure on the rest of his party or introduce his own replacement bill if they continue to bulk.

Posted by: Falling4Ever | February 10, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

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