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Posted at 10:48 AM ET, 02/ 7/2011

Palin says nothing in particular about Egypt, still gets headlines

By Adam Serwer

At the risk of enabling the media's habit of granting far too much attention to what Sarah Palin has to say, I still can't help pointing out that Sarah Palin's remarks on Egypt were essentially meaningless:

It's a difficult situation. This is that 3:00 a.m. White House phone call, and it seems for many of us trying to get that information from our leader in the White House, it seems that that call went right to the answering machine. And nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know, who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak. I'm not real enthused about what it is that is being done on a national level from D.C. in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt and in these areas that are so volatile right now, because obviously it's not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings. We know that now more than ever, we need strength and sound mind there in the White House. We need to know what it is that America stands for, so we know who it is that America will stand with. And we do not have all that information yet.

So Palin memorized an adviser's pre-scripted attack line before launching into word salad. Despite the fact that she failed to give even the vaguest impression that she had any idea what she was talking about, that line, referencing a commercial from the 2008 Democratic presidential primary campaign, launched a thousand headlines and breathlessly phrased e-mail alerts.

We're talking about a reference to a political advertisement that is literally three years old -- and is essentially meaningless outside a closed circle of political reporters, advisers, and news junkies. Try to explain the significance of this remark to people outside the beltway and their eyes would glaze over like you were elaborating on the relationship between midi-chlorians and force sensitivity to a first date. But just as intended, this precrafted "diss" managed to substitute in press reports for anything resembling a passing familiarity with what's happening in Egypt. In fact, it mostly sounds like Palin is complaining because Obama hasn't "taken a side," so she's not quite sure what's she's supposed to be against yet (although, in a response that's probably more pavlovian than intellectual, she gets that she's supposed to see the "Muslim Brotherhood" as the bad guys).

Despite the fact that the interview mostly demonstrated that Palin has a short-term memory, she still had reporters hanging on her every word. The irony of Palin's persona, and the carefully nurtured grievance at the heart of it, is that she's so often graded on a curve.

By Adam Serwer  | February 7, 2011; 10:48 AM ET
Categories:  Foreign policy and national security  
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I'm not real enthused with Obama on this issue either. Maybe only politicos remember HILLARY's 3:00 a.m. ad, but the rest of America is still wondering where the moral strength and sound mind are.

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Greg

Why complain about Sarah Palin's "headlines" while at the same moment you are giving her another "headline."

Seriously.


Move on - go onto repeating yourself on another topic.


Let's see, how about the "secret money" of the Chamber of Commerce (leaving out all the credit card control info on the Obama campaign.)

OR how about another "nuance" from a poll saying that people really want Obama's health care bill?


Or just parse some Conservative's statement until it is twisted beyond the intended meaning?


You can do alot of things instead of write about Sarah Palin.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | February 7, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, RU! Appreciate it. (In case you've left the previous thread.)

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 7, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

This is just too funny. Let's do the headline test: If Mr Serwer and Ms Palin were killed in the same plane crash, which name would appear with the large type font in newspapers?

I understand Mr Serwer's almost visceral need to criticize Palin. I also understand the need to trigger the pavlovian response that will inevitably rear its ugly head on this comment thread.

the supporters of Obama need to buy some corn husker's lotion or something, anything, that will thicken their skin. The president will experience withering criticism about everything he does. That's the job he applied for and won.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 7, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Palin's "criticism" was "withering?" It seems more that Palin's "word salad" was "incoherent."

Posted by: pragmaticagain | February 7, 2011 11:08 AM | Report abuse

You are not supposed to bring up the stupidity of midi-chlorians on the first date? Is that like playing hard to get?

@Chris_Gaun
chrisgaun@gmail.com

Posted by: chrisgaun | February 7, 2011 11:08 AM | Report abuse


Apparently some people on this blog believe that their offenses have been so great that they are going to be banned once the new softward comes in.

Among those: 12BarBluesAgain, who brought Cao to this blog, knowing full well what he would be like. She did this with a destructive intent, and she has admitted as such.

So, thinking she is smart, has created a new name for herself and is attempting to hide when the new software comes in.

Nice try, but we ALL see you in the open.


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Part of the problem here is the moderation policies are not spelled out - guidance has to be given.

There needs to be an "active warning system" to guide people when they have crossed the line. People don't get warnings, or even comments back stating clearly they have crossed the line.

The result has been that all the bad behavior has become the de facto guidance as to what is acceptable and what is not.

Also, moderation policy can not be influenced by political beliefs. There simply can not be the impression that liberals or conservatives are getting away with things that are enforced against the other side.


GUIDANCE - one easy way to do the "active warning system" would be to require all posters to stick to the issues - and avoid making personal nasty comments. These personal attacks have flared up recently. For me, I try to state my my opinions and CUT through the personal "ad hominem" attacks. People complain about that - however that is how I have dealt with the insanity here.


___________________________


If there are to be rules

1) The rules must be clearly defined

2) If the liberals break the rules, they get punished too.


3) You can't enforce rules ONLY against people whose views you don't like - that starts nasty lawsuits and ends careers.


Clearly

GUIDANCE - one easy way to do the "active warning system" would be to require all posters to stick to the issues - and avoid making personal nasty comments. These personal attacks have flared up recently. For me, I try to state my my opinions and CUT through the personal "ad hominem" attacks. People complain about that - however that is how I have dealt with the insanity here.

WASHINGTON POST - really should do something about the Obama paid trolls. There should be some contact made between the paper and Axelrod as to the ground rules BECAUSE if the Obama paid trolls start to harass people again like they did in 2008 and 2009, there will be a response.


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Posted by: RainForestRising | February 7, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Hosni can you see, by the dawn's early light?

The Mubarek regime has kept A State Of Emergency/Martial Law in place since 1981. Think about that for a moment boys and girls. After 30 years they still have not been able to lift Martial Law, and Mubarak is now claiming that if he were to resign now, Egypt would fall apart.
Didn't Hosni just admit that his thirty years of Dictatorial rule was a complete failure, becauseEgypt still could not survive without him.
Reminds me of the same excuse that all those Neo-Con Chicken Hawks have often made for why we must never pull out of Iraq, S. Korea, Afghanistan, Gitmo, and Fantasy Island.

Can you say "I Am Egypt, and The Cult Of Personality" Hosni?


Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"At the risk of enabling the media's habit of granting far too much attention to what Sarah Palin has to say,"

The best way to stop is to go cold turkey.

Posted by: jnc4p | February 7, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

3AM. The phone rings and wakes up President Palin.

"Madam President, huge protests have erupted in Cairo, Egypt. What should we do?"

President Palin: "I need to talk to someone with deep links to that nation's history. Locate Leon Spinks immediatly"

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, it was vacuous but reported as if it had substance.

Reporters and editors who promote this kind of nonsense are hurting America. This is sooo dumb.

Posted by: ANDYO1 | February 7, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

3AM. The phone rings and wakes up President Palin.

"Madam President, huge protests have erupted in Cairo, Egypt. What should we do?"

President Palin: "I need to talk to someone with deep links to that nation's history. Locate Leon Spinks immediately"

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Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse

RainForestRising and skipsailing28, even Dana Milbank breached his own silly Palin moratorium the FIRST day out. They can't "Bork" her if they don't keep bringing her up. I don't think think that we should give WaPo any more clicks though. Do either of you post at other sites?

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Liam-still,

You owe me a keyboard.

"Locate Leon Spinks immediately" heh, heh, heh.

At least give a warning.

Posted by: wiccan | February 7, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Attention Adam.

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/05/jennifer-rubin-israel/

"Washington Post ‘Conservative’ Blogger Aligned With the Pro-Israel Far Right

Our guest blogger is Eli Clifton, a New York-based journalist who blogs daily on U.S.-Iran relations at LobeLog.com.

Jennifer Rubin, who authors The Washington Post’s “Right Turn” blog, claims that her blog offers coverage of “politics and policy” for “conservative readers.” But you’d be excused for thinking that her foremost interest is Israel’s conservative politics and policy.

Rubin, a prolific blogger, has published 415 posts since she started at The Washington Post at the end of November. Her blog categorizes her posts by topic and shows that: 29 were about “Israel;” 11 were about “American Jews,” and 16 were about “Iran.” In just the past few weeks, she attacked the signatories of a letter calling for the Obama administration to support a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlement construction in the Occupied Territory. Rubin also attacked HSBC for an advertisement which the bank was running to call attention to the high number of female filmmakers in Iran.

Now, her hard work on behalf of the Israel right has earned her a free trip. “In the interest of full disclosure,” she revealed yesterday, her trip to Israel’s Herzliya Conference, an Israeli strategic confab, will be paid for by the Bill Kristol front group, The Emergency Committee For Israel (ECI).

The ECI first came to attention in July 2010 when it began running attack ads against politicians who it deemed insufficiently tough on terrorism or who had dared to criticize Israel. The group is directed by neoconservative upstart Noah Pollak and board members include: Kristol, Rachel Abrams, and Gary Bauer. Former Bush White House official Margaret Hoover has registered the ECI’s domain name. ECI was briefly housed at Orion Strategies, a consultancy which has advised Sarah Palin and served as the home of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a group which played a key role in pushing for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein and promoting Ahmed Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress.

The Washington Post’s claim that she is representative of the conservative movement is deeply misleading. Her close relationship with ECI, her gleeful promotion of the “military option” against Iran’s nuclear facilities, and her proclivity towards smearing her opponents as “Israel-bashing” show that Rubin represents the interests and ideology of the hawkish, pro-Israel right-wing. While the Post claims that her blog is representative of conservative politics and policy, her posts have shown a very different focus."

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Gack. If she is graded on a curve, which other dimwits are we hearing from that help boost her grade so much?

Posted by: carolcarre | February 7, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Carol,

Nothing much has changed; many of those Joe The Plunger, Tea Party types, are still grading her on her curves.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

After all this, they still claim "no politics of personal destruction" as to Palin. Yeah, I guess Trig is still "off limits" too. I'm frankly disgusted by them all.

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Irony Is Dead;

Claw, AKA JakeD;
A Rabid Birther,says he is disgusted by the politics of personal destruction.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

This just in;

RNC release the order of Caucus and Primary States, for the selection of their 2012 Presidential Nominee.

To no one's surprise, the first State out of the gate will be: The State Of Israel.

Several candidates have already started to spend time there, drumming up local support.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Palin's remards are SO "meaningless"... that Serwer is compelled to dissect them.

Meanwhile, in what could be a MAJOR blow to The Obamateur's Afghanistan strategy, Massachusetts Democratic Sen. John Kerry tells the Boston Globe he doesn't think the president's policy is working and that it needs to be revised.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/02/06/kerry_favors_reduced_us_role_in_afghanistan_war/?page=full

*Lurch-tastic!*

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | February 7, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Please note, I didn't say that Ms Palin's words, as selected by Mr Serwer were a withering criticism.

I simply stated a fact of life in America: Obama's every word and deed will be criticized.

Gotta face it and learn to live with it. It is what it is.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 7, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Except in the case of Granny Grizzly; when: It is what it isn't!

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

DID SHE HAVE ALL THAT WRITTEN ON HER HAND?hOW CAN ONE COMMENT ON A SUBJECT THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT?

Posted by: cliffc1 | February 7, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

All, an important piece from Politico's John Harris and Jim VandeHei, who admit that the left's critique of the Beltway press corps is right:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/02/vandeharris_give_away_the_game.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 7, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Woah, skip. Concisely stated. I cosign with enthusiasm.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 7, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm still hopeful...you know that famous old bromide about fooling the people...I think we have reached the stage of fooling some of the people all of the time...poor clawrence...We are however clearly edging to that inability to fool all of the people all of the time.
Palin's ratings amongst the public have been descending for the past year and are now at seriously low point.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/10/AR2010021004708.html

Fifty-five percent of Americans have unfavorable views of her, while the percentage holding favorable views has dipped to 37, a new low in Post-ABC polling.

There is a growing sense that the former Alaska governor is not qualified to serve as president, with more than seven in 10 Americans now saying she is unqualified, up from 60 percent in a November survey. Even among Republicans, a majority now say Palin lacks the qualifications necessary for the White House.

But I must confess I'm getting like jcn4p.
Perhaps it is time to simply go cold turkey. When she was a VP candidate I was angry and concerned. But we really care anymore about her earning a good fortune as a reality show host...something btw I think she is qualified to do..no snark intended...Sarah reads the prompter well and her folksy manner seems to appeal to a significant % of our population.

But can we stop pretending she is a "serious" person. Most of her own party have even dropped that pretense.
By this point and time however...anybody who has a critical thinking brain cell left is well aware that Palin commenting on Egypt, foreign affairs in general, is simply a joke. She has embarrassed herself enough, I no longer even take any pleasure in laughing through the word salsd. It's become a tired tedious joke.

Posted by: rukidding7 | February 7, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"I simply stated a fact of life in America: Obama's every word and deed will be criticized."

Especially by the envious like Sister Sarah.
The vast majority of the rest of the right has actually supported Obama on Egypt as Greg showed with links on the last thread.

But Sarah...to paraphrase a line I'm stealing from Hillary..

If Obama walked on water across the Atlantic to deal with Egypt...here is what a facebook entry..a tweet..or a guest shot on Hannity...she doesn't do real interiews would look like...

Well yeah he may have walked on water but he did get his shoes wet. waaahhhhh

Posted by: rukidding7 | February 7, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I went looking to see if WORD SALAD had made it into a dictionary, when lo and behold....

word salad
n. See schizophasia.
The American Heritage® Medical Dictionary Copyright © 2007, 2004 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

Word salad
Speech that is so disorganized that it makes no linguistic or grammatical sense. Mentioned in: Schizophrenia
Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc.

word salad,
a jumble of words and phrases that lacks logical coherence and meaning, often characteristic of disoriented individuals and persons with schizophrenia. See also jargon aphasia.
Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009, Elsevier.

word salad
Psychiatry
A mixture of neologisms, words, and phrases that lack comprehensive meaning or logical coherence; WSs are characterized by loosening of associations, shifting of topics that may progress to near incoherence, and a lack of logical connection; WSs are typical of disordered thought processes–eg, schizophrenia. Cf Witzelsucht.
McGraw-Hill Concise Dictionary of Modern Medicine. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.

Posted by: smd1234 | February 7, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

No more meaningless than typical pol comments about such events, including O's own ocmments. Indeed, not meaningless at all.

"Palin says nothing in particular about Egypt, still gets headlines"

Irony? You have a serious problem with self-defeating, Palin-obsessed behavior, Greg.

Shrink was talking about DM V disorder designations recently. It's time to get a serious discussion of proper naming of this derangement going.

Palinphobia with dysphoria and cognitive diplacement syndrome?

Posted by: quarterback1 | February 7, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

From what I have seen reported about the alleged concessions that The Egyptian regime have made, it looks like mere rope-a-dope, in order to stall, until American Media turns all it's attention to "The Royal Wedding". Or as this Irishman likes to put it, The Royal Pain In The Arse Wedding.

Suleiman told Christiane Amanpour that Mohammed ElBaredei would not be included in the talks because(catch this piece of classic doublespeak) ElBaredei does not represent a political party, and also because those he represents have connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. Of course the irony of the fact, that Suleiman sought to tar ElBaredei with the Muslim Brotherhood brush, as a reason not to talk to him, while at the same time having agreed to talk to The Muslim Brotherhood, went unchallenged by the ABC reporter.

The regime is going to frame the outcome, as it being a choice between them and Islamic extremists, and all other groups, will be claimed to have connections to extremists. It worked for them for the past thirty years, so they are not about to shred that winning game plan.

There are going to truly "Walk Like Egyptians". Sideways, that is!

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin ought to keep her mouth shut. This idiot has no understanding of President Obama's grand diplomatic strategy

President Obama and the great beloved Muslim Brotherhood are joining forces to overthrow the criminal Mubarak regime. With the help of President Obama, we'll establish an Islamic government in Egypt, which is desired by every Egyptians. With his recent great speeches to the Turks and Egyptians, President Obama has awakened the strong Islamic feelings of these 2 great Muslim giants. After President Obama spoke to the people of Turkey and inspired them, the Turkish Islamic government began to stiffen their spine against Israel and become more supportive of Palestinian causes. Like the Turks, the people of Egypt were also inspired by President Obama when he spoke to them in Cairo and they will soon join the great Islamic causes and destroy the anti-Islamic Mubarak regime. Together with Iran, these 3 great Islamic governments will provide a 3-way formidable attack against Israel, the main troublemaker and warmonger in Middle East. Thanks to the great visions of President Obama, the invincible triple Islamic Alliance of Egypt, Iran and Turkey will put an end to Israel.

When Obama the Liberator has freed the long-suffering Palestinians from those widely-despised Israeli occupiers, he should be well-awarded with his 2nd Nobel Peace Prize for bringing long-lasting peace to the people of Middle East.

This is something beyond the pay-grade of a short-sighted idiot like Sarah Palin to comprehend.

Posted by: tmbodok | February 7, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse

The only thing I understood of Palin's statement is that she expects to take the side opposite to Obama's. Since Obama has not declared a good/bad guy, she does not know what to do. A rational person would have simply kept quiet.

Posted by: AMviennaVA | February 7, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Greg/Adam:

Talk about self-parody. Proclaiming that "Palin says nothing in particular about Egypt, still gets headlines"....in your own headline?!?!

You guys are too much.

Posted by: ScottC3 | February 7, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin: In A Nutshell.

"I am completely against how President Obama is handling the crisis in Egypt, and also, why haven't we been told what he is doing, that I am complete against, nevertheless and when is he going to tell us what he has being keeping us in the dark about, that he has being doing, that which I am completely opposed to, which I would like to have him tell us what that is, and also the confiscation of all our desserts."

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

TO......BORK-LOVER

OMG - if Palin's blathering has meaning,
please, you sharp-tongued lexmaster,
entighten us on the importune meaning!
discourserize us with your insides!
refudiate abundantly and in sum detail!

"No more meaningless than typical pol comments about such events, including O's own ocmments. Indeed, not meaningless at all."

Posted by: smd1234 | February 7, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Sarah who?

Posted by: CalD | February 7, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@tmbodok

Anyone who thinks that the imposition of sharia and the rest of the atavistic fundamentalist Islam that the Brotherhood advocates is somehow "liberation" is either in the pay of the Brotherhood or abyssally ignorant.

Here is what Egypt should look forward to, in your vision:

Settling political differences by throwing members of the opposition from the roof of a high building.

Killing jews simply because the Koran says you should

Killing Christians, starting with the priests in Turkey and moving on to the copts, because the fundamentalists imans say you you should.

yeah, the Egyptians will surely prosper in a country dominated by Islam. Just like the people in Iran have prospered thanks the Mullahs. The Arab world is mired in the past, the culture is failing its adherents and the only people who want more Islam are the people who use it for power.

Want an example? Why is it that Hassan Nasrallah pretends to be a muslim cleric when in reality he's a murderous thug?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 7, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

The Muslim Brotherhood Boogie Man. More Myth Than Reality?

Or else Mubarak must be the most incompetent, 30 Years Of Marshall Law, Despot ever.


From what I have seen reported about the alleged concessions that The Egyptian regime have made, it looks like mere rope-a-dope, in order to stall, until American Media turns all it's attention to "The Royal Wedding". Or as this Irishman likes to put it, The Royal Pain In The Arse Wedding.

Suleiman told Christiane Amanpour that Mohammed ElBaredei would not be included in the talks because(catch this piece of classic doublespeak) ElBaredei does not represent a political party, and also because those he represents have connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. Of course the irony of the fact, that Suleiman sought to tar ElBaredei with the Muslim Brotherhood brush, as a reason not to talk to him, while at the same time having agreed to talk to The Muslim Brotherhood, went unchallenged by the ABC reporter.

The regime is going to frame the outcome, as it being a choice between them and Islamic extremists, and all other groups, will be claimed to have connections to extremists. It worked for them for the past thirty years, so they are not about to shred that winning game plan.

There are going to truly "Walk Like Egyptians". Sideways, that is!

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28, I took tmbodok's comment as sarcasm AGAINST Obama (i.e. Beyond My Pay Grade reference). But I guess I could be mistaken, and it was posted as a criticism of Palin and therefore simply more irony.

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 1:31 PM | Report abuse

It was an ignorant comment to gain publicity = typical Palin.

Palin's latest publicity stunt purposely feeds into the appetite of the Beltway media who want the president to lay out all his cards regarding Egypt so they have a smorgasbord to chew on. She fed the media exactly what they wanted.

Posted by: Beeliever | February 7, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

It is classic Palin.

She also came out against having Michelle Obama Palling Around with Nutritionists and Dietitians.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

tmbodok, you don't really want the destruction of Israel (current population 7.7 million), do you?

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

What if the connection exists liam-liar? What then?

Are you saying that there are no fundamentalist muslims in all the world?

It is just plain stupid to assume that radical islam doesnt' have an opportunity here.

This is a tough world liam-liar and ignorance is not bliss.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 7, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

smd,

"TO......BORK-LOVER

OMG - if Palin's blathering has meaning,
please, you sharp-tongued lexmaster,
entighten us on the importune meaning!
discourserize us with your insides!
refudiate abundantly and in sum detail!"

You can always tell that someone is an intellectual force when they start with "OMG."

Bork-lover? See, that's an example of your sloppy thinking and argument. You actually don't know what I think of him, except that I refuted your foolish caricature of him as a lightweight based on his current teaching gig at Ave Maria.

You seriously find phrases like the following meaningless and equivalent to schizophrenic babble?

"And nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know"

"We need to know what it is that America stands for, so we know who it is that America will stand with."

If so, I'd suggest you seek help for yourself, because normal people can understand them.

We all get that you hate and despise Palin, mainly because she comes from an ordinary background and didn't attend elite schools from childhood like Obama did, and she speaks accordingly. So you call her an incompetent idiot and yet squawk and flap your wings like a bunch of panicked chickens at the mention of her name. You all appear to suffer a mental disorder relating to her existence.

Posted by: quarterback1 | February 7, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28, I would suggest you just ignore Liam. Do you have someplace else you post?

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 2:09 PM | Report abuse

All Boogie Men scare tactics begin with "what If".

Just like the "WMD" scare tactics did.

WMD. Bush/Cheney's Whoppers Of Mass Deception. Which of course opened the door for Al Qaeda to pour into Iraq.

Thirty Years Of Marshall Law, and Mubarak still has not being able to improve the situation. If that is true, then he has to go, because he is The Most Incompentent Despot Ever.

Just like when Eisenhower Installed The Shah, and that created the opening for the Islamists, the long term propping up of this Egyptian Despot is probably what has created the fertile ground for radical islamists to take root in Egypt.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 7, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

There was some humor on this thread.
One righty making what he/she thought was some clever snark being taken literally by another righty.

As 12Bar might type...bwaahaaahaaa

Posted by: rukidding7 | February 7, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I visit Jenn Rubin's blog, but beyond that, no.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 7, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28, neither does quarterback1. If I find a good place, I will let you know.

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I wish Sarah Palin would just go away or at least do a little bit more research before she talks about foreign policy. I don't agree with the administration's lack of involvement in this situation but I do agree that the relationship with Egypt and the muslim world is very delicate, therefore we have to be careful how we deal with this situation. Pallin is nothing more than a cheerleader for the tea party/conservative moment. She is not a leader. I rather hear from Christine O'Donnell, an intelligent woman who knows what she is talking about. Maybe when she loses the future republican race, she will eat some humble pie after she loses and disappear from public life for awhile.

Posted by: robert-frazier | February 7, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28 and quarterback1, have you seen this place?

http://citizen-pamphleteer.blogspot.com/2011/02/echoes-of-1964.html

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

skipsailing28 and quarterback1, have you seen this place?

http://citizen-pamphleteer.blogspot.com/2011/02/echoes-of-1964.html

Sarah Palin's speech begins at 6:57

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

@clawrence

That's a really funny website. You do realize how insulting it is to Ronald Reagan to make any comparison of a half term gov of the smallest (population) state in the nation to Reagan...again Clawrence she couldn't even finish one full term!! Reagan governed the fifth largest economy in the World for TWO FULL TERMS! He then went to TWO FULL TERMS as President of the U.S.

Seriously clawrence...anytime I see a post with someone comparing the half term dimwit to St. Ronnie...well I'm not even a Reagan fan but I wouldn't diss him that badly. Comparing Palin to Reagan is like comparing Ted Nugent to Mozart!

Posted by: rukidding7 | February 7, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

This is a good blog too:

http://www.yaf.org/Blogs.aspx?id=5746&blogid=78

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 7, 2011 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Perusing the posts on the Sarah Palin articles in the WaPo and elsewhere, I draw one conclusion; the 'blood libel' didn't word. So Libs, I guess its back to the drawing board. You are going to have to come up with something--anything!!! And recycling the old 'stuff' won't do ('Sarah the half-term governor', the 'Wasilla town debt', 'paying for rape kits' blah, blah, blah). Its wearing thin--like Obamas's reputation as an 'intellectual'.

Posted by: genecarr100 | February 8, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

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