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Posted at 11:52 AM ET, 02/ 2/2011

Please inform your readers

By Greg Sargent

Today Senate Republicans will get the vote they want on whether to repeal the Affordable Care Act. The New York Times quotes Mitch McConnell discussing the repeal vote as follows:

"For all those who supported the health care law, it's an opportunity to re-evaluate your vote, to listen to your constituents," Mr. McConnell said in a floor speech on Tuesday.

He added, "You can say, perhaps: 'This was a mistake. We can do this better.' Or you can continue to dismiss the majority of people in this country as not knowing what they're talking about."

This is a bit convoluted, but if I'm reading McConnell right here, he's suggesting that a "majority of people in this country" support full repeal of the health reform law. That simply isn't supported by any polling evidence that I'm aware of. But the Times piece, which is otherwise quite informative, doesn't make any effort to evaluate McConnell's claim or supply any data so readers can do so for themselves.

As it happens, The New York Times has done some of the finest and most detailed polling on this question that we've seen yet. In January, the paper found that 40 percent favor repeal, versus 48 percent who want to leave the bill as is. That alone contradicts McConnell's suggestion.

But even better, the Times did everyone a great service and drilled down deeper into public attitudes on the question by offering people a range of options, rather than just a straight choice between full repeal and keeping the law intact. That line of questioning revealed that only 20 percent support doing away with the law.

So why not include this nifty polling in today's article, so readers can decide for themselves whether McConnell is telling the truth? Hey, if you've got it, flaunt it, say I. Heck, one could even get crazy and drop a link to that polling into the article, increasing the number of clicks by leaps and bounds! Erring on the side of giving readers more information, rather than less, has no downside that I can see.

By Greg Sargent  | February 2, 2011; 11:52 AM ET
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Comments

Getting a little nit-picky, Greg.

Posted by: sbj3 | February 2, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

100% agreed...and it's so easy:

"Polling shows that Mr. McConnell's assesment of public opinion might not be so cut and dry. NYTimes has done extensive analyis on the data, which can be found here (link)."

Done.

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | February 2, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, BBQ. Thank you. One sentence would suffice.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 2, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

If the Senate Democrats don't understand that voting for Obamacare played a significant role in the power transition that took place during the 2010 elections, then they really do not understand or are ignoring a significant portion of the public will on this. To be that out of touch is simply Darwinian...they'll be out of office next election cycle for absolute certain. They're ignorance on the limits of government even though they swear an Oath to uphold the Constitution is also indicative of their willfull or negligent breaking of the law.

Posted by: smith4321 | February 2, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Watch carefully the votes of the Dem Senators that are up for reelection in '12...

Posted by: illogicbuster | February 2, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

More of the traditional media playing the "both sides have equally valid points of view" tactic in the health care debate. Both sides are NOT equally valid. One is lying and the other is not. Simple.

This FoxNewsian approach leads us down really ridiculously stupid roads such as Sen. Grassley (of whom I used to hold some respect) shouting about how Grandma is going to be killed by Obama.

For such a outlandish claim, you'd expect the media to be right on it to sort out the truth. But no, it's just, "So and so said THIS!!" and they leave it at that. Republicans have found they say almost anything they want, throwing huge chunks of false red meat to their base and convincing much of America that Obama is a satanic muslim socialist commie who is intent on killing your grandmother.

The traditional media has seriously fallen down on the job.

Posted by: Alex3 | February 2, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Great point, Greg. Why let a major assertion stand when it is verifiable false? I just don't get why these people go into journalism if they are not committed to educating the public. I heard that on NPR this morning and the hosts also did not correct McConnell.

Posted by: MarcS1 | February 2, 2011 12:23 PM | Report abuse

The NYTimes polls forever and anon have been the finest and most detailed of all polls.

That said, the repeal polling that would matter would be individual state polls of the dozen or so Dem Senators who are members of the 2012 Wobble Caucus.

Posted by: tao9 | February 2, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

I disagree with you on this. Snapshot polls of the public mood at this time, should have no say on what legislators vote on.

The results of the most recent elections, in which The Republicans campaigned on repeal of the bill, gave McConnell a legitimate right to make such a claim.

You remember someone saying that he took a shellacking. What some polls reflect today, should not trump the results of the election, because a Democracy should not be run by poll takers.

I am not saying that Democrats should not stick to their principles, because they were elected to pass the health care reform bill, so they should vote repeal down in the Senate, but there is nothing wrong with Mitch McConnell claiming that the voters sided with him, in the last elections.


No one voted for a single poll taker, and we should always keep that in mind.

I hate poll takers, and I think they are very dangerous; because they are always telling people the outcome of elections, long before election days.

There should be long prison sentences for people who tamper with the legitimacy of the voting process, in such a manner.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 2, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Liam, I'm not saying that the polls should necessarily impact the behavior of legislators. I'm saying that the Times should give readers the info they need to evaluate the truth or falsity of the quotes from politicians they are reprinting.

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 2, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Greg,

The election results speak for the voters, not the NY Times, or any other Media outlet, and especially not what some pollsters claim, to frame what the voters want, on a daily basis.

Hold elections on a election days, and get rid of all poll taking, and we will all be far better off.

Of course we would be far better off if we also shortened the election campaign seasons to no more than two months, for primaries and general elections.

The Republic Of Ireland just announced a general national election on Feb 1st, and election day will be held on Feb. 24th. Wouldn't it be great if we only had to listen to our campaigning politicians and their TV spots for such a short campaign period.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 2, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

From the NYTimes poll cited:

31. How concerned are you that a large budget deficit will create hardships for future generations of Americans
1/15-19/11
Very concerned - 64
Somewhat concerned - 26
Not too concerned - 5
Not concerned at all - 3
DK/NA - 1

The above is why repeal is getting a vote in the Senate.

The public (even, actually especially, the law's supporters) knows, in their bones, that ACA will be Fed spending on meth, and that it very, very probably won't work.

Posted by: tao9 | February 2, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Newspapers officially stopped informing readers of anything in 2000.

Posted by: solsticebelle | February 2, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Repeal is getting a vote because Republican's don't believe the Govn't should play a role in bettering the lives of American's through intervention in the private sector.

They believe the private sector alone should solve the problem because Govn't intervention means those funding Republican campaigns will have less to spend on getting them re-elected.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 2, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Please excuse the contentless post:

Hear, hear!

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Jan11_healthcare.pdf

Posted by: mmyotis | February 2, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans do not give a rat's arse about the national debt. If they did, they would not have added trillions to it, to run their two bollixed up wars, without paying for them.

And of course they also insisted on adding hundreds of billions to the national debt, to provide tax cuts for Billionaires who became Billionaires under the Clinton tax rates.

You know, that period when jobs were plentiful, and the annual budget had started running a surplus, which was going to pay down the national debt.

The Bush Tax Cuts did not create any additional jobs, and they were not spent by the Fat Cats to pull us out of the ditch that Bush drove us into;

So. all you Right Wing Fiscal Chicken Hawks; tell your BS walking.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 2, 2011 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Kind of amusing--the wapo criticizing the nyt, considering the lineup of fact-challenged opinionists at the wapo

Posted by: scientist1 | February 2, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

My, my. Mr Sargent is quibbling with a senator. Mr Sargent questions the veracity of a statement made by Mr McConnell.

I wonder what quibbles Mr Sargent had with this statement from a Democrat senator:

"Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the Government, and the doors of the Federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is—and is often the only—protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy... President Reagan is still our president. But he should not be able to reach out from the muck of Irangate, reach into the muck of Watergate and impose his reactionary vision of the Constitution on the Supreme Court and the next generation of Americans. No justice would be better than this injustice"

Show us a letter to Mr Kennedy decrying this statement Mr Sargent. If you arrogate to yourself the "right to be the arbiter of probity show us some even handedness.

At this point the only people who should take liberals seriously are other liberals. The rest of us should recognize that this "movement" has lost its way.

Mr Sargent provides yet another example of a liberal demanding that non-liberals "do as the liberals say, not as the liberals do."

for further proof of the truth of what I'm saying just look at the reaction here to my contention that the right must adopt the same tactics against Obama as the left used against Bush.

Do as we say, not as we do? Good luck with that boys and girls.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 2, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"So why not include this nifty polling in today's article, so readers can decide for themselves whether McConnell is telling the truth?"

Because the Times doesn't want to pick a fight with the Minority Leader of the US Senate. Reporters rarely challenge stuff like this. Get a direct quotes from an R, a D and you've got a balanced story. Accuracy and analysis is time consuming. Being a scribe is much simpler.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | February 2, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

All, a conservative legal scholar makes a fascinating case for the constitutionality of the individual mandate:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/02/conservative_legal_scholar_we.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 2, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Do as we say, not as we do? Good luck with that boys and girls.
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@skipsailing,

And that is your moral code? Do you apply that in your personal life? You know, wifey, you called me a name last year and NOW you're getting it back, BIG TIME, b**ch.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 2, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

What are you talking about? Did something I wrote hurt your tender feelings? I doubt it.

My point is quite simple. The left doesn't want experience what they put Bush and his supporters through. As proof of this contention I am simply repeating the nasty words that are hurled in my general direction.

Further, it is quite clear that the left has lost any sense of self awareness. I seriously doubt that folks like Jenn or Mr Serwer have so much as a twinge of remorse for the lies they told about Sarah Palin in the aftermath of Tucson.

The bad behavior of the left is fair game. I see no reason to give you folks a pass for your past lack of civility. As liberals continue to whine about the lack of civility they continue to fabricate outright lies about those with whom they disagree. Just look at the statment made by mikefromarlington accusing the "neo cons" of fomenting pro Mubarak violence. It is just the typical liberal response.

And it isn't about getting even, it is about effectiveness. All that endless nastiness did indeed limit Bush's effectiveness. So why should Obama's opponents forgo the use of the same tactics? What part of this don't you get?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 2, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

What part of this don't you get?
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I'm afraid that I do get your point. That is your moral code? You teach this to your children? You apply this in your personal life?

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 2, 2011 1:38 PM | Report abuse

NYTimes has done extensive analyis on the data..."

Posted by: TheBBQChickenMadness | February 2, 2011 12:01 PM |
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LOL. The NYTimes? Shorthand for 'skip on down.'

Posted by: Brigade | February 2, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Skip:
"The left doesn't want to experience what they put Bush and his supporters through."
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Let them want in one hand and sh*t in the other hand and see which one gets full first.

Posted by: Brigade | February 2, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

OK, let's talk morality. The left believed that they were correct to do what they did because Bush was such a threat to everything known to man. Therefore their behavior was "moral".

OK, that's all it takes, right?

what you seem to be saying is that the right shouldn't do what the left did because it just wouldn't be moral. That's pretty funny. The left still believes that they are sole arbiters of right and wrong. They saw nothing wrong with their behavior so why should anyone else? If it is justified to carry a poster of Mr Bush with a bullet hole in his head to a "demonstration" then it is moral to carry a similar poster with Obama similarly depicted.

So spare me the "moral" lectures. The left established the cultural norms for civility during the Bush years. That's now "moral".

So me a comment to liam still requesting that he stop lying about me. Show me a comment to RUK asking him to modify his rhetoric. You can't because you said nothing about their behavior. But mine gets the "moral" scrutiny.

I'm with Brigade on this one. Let's see which hand gets filled first.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 2, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Pick any of the Democrat polls and they will be an encouragement and a shill for the Obamacrats and their lord and master, Barack Hosni Obama. Everyone knows this to be true.

The only unbiased poll is the election poll and everyone knows that, also. The Novemeber revolution, aka the mid-terms of 2010 told the real story and it is this:

Republicans ran on a platform of anti-Obamacare, full repeal, no-holds barred, git 'er done, kick the bums out, full throttle, cut the spending, anti-Democrat conservatism.

Republicans won a historic victory and Obamacrats suffered crushing, humiliating defeat. There can be no doubt as to the meaning of these results. The liberal spinmasters are flim-flamming the weak minded and the weak willed, as usual.

The second best poll, Gallup, says:

PRINCETON, NJ -- About 7 in 10 national adults, including 88% of Republicans, say it is important that Republican leaders in Congress take the Tea Party movement's positions and objectives into account as they address the nation's problems. Among Republicans, 53% rate this "very important."

Conclusion: Obamacare is doomed if the will of the people is followed. The removal of more Obamacrats and Obama himself may be necessary for this to happen. Obama's very survival may depend on him turning against his namesake boondoggle. Like Doctor Frankenstein killing the monster who had turned on him.

Posted by: battleground51 | February 2, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

what you seem to be saying is that the right shouldn't do
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I'm not saying anything. I'm just asking YOU a question. Is this your moral code? You keep saying that your behaviour (moral code) is determined by others bad behaviour? You really mean that?

Would you teach your children that code? Would you apply that to your wife, mother, dad, brothers and sisters and neighbors? Should they apply that moral code to you? Should there be a new provision in the Bible that the Lord wants us to behave unto others as they behave unto us?

If so, just say yes. And you won't hear another word from me on the subject. I'm just having a little trouble believing you really mean that.

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 2, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

As usual the GOP relies on talking points - not facts to try get their message across. Not good enough. They are banking on the assumption that they can come up with a better health plan - and the risk is with the American people whether they can deliver or not. Judging from their track record - not, is more likely. In their zeal to bring down the president, they moved too early.

A serious attempt to disqualify the Dem's health care plan would be more credible if they had the wits to offer their own health plan and let the people decide (not partisan judges) on the merits of each plan. Just a knee-jerk reaction to say "no" again is too predictable and too lame for the people to swallow.

Posted by: robinx | February 2, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"This is a bit convoluted, but if I'm reading McConnell right here, he's suggesting that a "majority of people in this country" support full repeal of the health reform law. That simply isn't supported by any polling evidence that I'm aware of."


What about the polling in November?

Posted by: jeff20 | February 2, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Liam,

"The election results speak for the voters, not the NY Times, or any other Media outlet, and especially not what some pollsters claim, to frame what the voters want, on a daily basis.

Hold elections on a election days, and get rid of all poll taking, and we will all be far better off."

You appear to be arguing that legislators should legislate in accorance with the platform of the majority party on each and every issue regardless of the fact that most voters within a party hold a range of opinions and the depth of public support for individual issues within the party platform.

To the extent that I understand your argument, I find it underwhelming to say the least.

Polls are simply another tool by which the public point of view on an issue can be expressed. Of course pollsters can intelligently formulate their questions to produce that favor their cause, that does not undermine their utility for understanding public opinion, however.

If you want to argue that legislators should not legislate based on public opinion, I will agree. On the other hand, an understanding of public opinion is both important and relevant to legistative policy and action.

Posted by: mmyotis | February 2, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Republicans ran on repealing Obamacare. Republicans won the election in a landslide. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: annnort | February 2, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Go back and read what I wrote, rather than what you want to assume I wrote.

I clearly stated that the Democrats have every right to vote against repealing health care, because they got elected on the promise to pass it.

On the other hand; Mitch McConnell has every right to claim that the voters sided with The Republicans, on the repeal issue, in the most recent elections, and the snap shot polls taken by some pollsters, on any given day, between elections, do not trump that.

If it did; then we should abolish elections, and just have some pollsters tell us, what 1001 people want enacted on a day to day basis.

Media, including Plumline, love to cede massive power to daily poll results that reflect what they favor.

Poll takers are the enemy of real representative Democracy, because they have brought us to to the point, that almost no candidates ever tell us what their own stance would be, but instead tell us, what their pollster said the majority of the people polled would like to hear.

The Pollsters have thrown a blanket over Diogenes' lamp.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 2, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

OK, I understand your line of questioning now. Let me retrace.

Was the behavior of the left during the Bush years "bad"? I thought so, but the left didn't. Therefore the definition of good and bad rests with the beholder.

since the left didn't find their actions "bad" they cannot now complain when others, with a different political point of view" engage in the same actions. It wasn't "bad" for them so it cannot be "bad" for anybody else.

I am reminded of a scene from catch 22. A person of high rank asks Yossarian: "What if everybody thought that way?" Yossarian's very sage reply, "Then I would be an idiot to think otherwise"

Your attempts to extrapolate this to arena's other than politics makes little sense. The Democrats and liberals demonstrated how they will go about achieving their political objectives. They didn't demonstrate how to go about raising exemplary children or sustaining a deeply loving marriage.

they did, however, demonstrate how to abandon shame and decency in the name of political expediency. If the end you wish to achieve justifies your means, then the same standard applies to others in the political arena. It is the norm now, whether you like it or not.

I thought lefties were all about nuance. Is this too nuanced for you? After years of being told by arrogant lefties that I, by virtue of my adherence to conservative principles, see the world in black and white I am amused by your effort to paint such monochrome.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 2, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line is: the behavior of Bush/Cheney during "The Bush Years" was bad. They even tried to have their federal district attorneys engage in political prosecutions of members of the other party.

That was Bad Bad Bad Behavior on the part of Bush.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 2, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

The fact that the republicans won a majority of the House and picked up Senate seats in November is not, in itself, validation that a majority of Americans want the repeal of Health Care. For one thing, while the Republicans made the repeal of health care a major plank in their campaigns, polls showed that the number one issue in the voters' minds was jobs, followed closely by the number two issue, jobs. Despite the name of the Republican bill in the house, repeal of health care was not what most of the public was voting for. Second, each representative is elected by a plurality of the votes in his/her district. Just because more republican's won than democrats does not mean that, nationally, more people voted for republicans than democrats, or voted for people who were against health care. Polling, on the other hand, if properly and fairly done, does tell you what a majority of the public wants and is thinking.

Posted by: WK437 | February 2, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

This should be filed under the category "So what?"
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The bottom line is: the behavior of Bush/Cheney during "The Bush Years" was bad. They even tried to have their federal district attorneys engage in political prosecutions of members of the other party.

That was Bad Bad Bad Behavior on the part of Bush.

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Therefore, liam-still feels that lying about those with the temerity to disagree with him (it?) is perfectly acceptable. Just witness the lies he (it?) told about me.


No shame, no decency, Just win baby, that's the left's creed. OK. If that's the norm, then stop whining when the same standards are adopted by the people you slander every day.

The last thing I would do is render a shred of agreement with you about your view of right and wrong. You are an unapologetic liar and therefore gave up any claim to the ability to seperate right from wrong. You wouldn't know morality if it urinated on your shoes.

so 12bar, what was the question again? Am I teaching my children to behave like Liam-still does? Is that it?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | February 2, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Skippy, if you ever stopped telling lies, you would actually have to take a vow of silence.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 2, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Some obviously GOP supporters are believing their own lie. Republicans gained seats in the House last election because of the lack of new jobs and the state of the economy. Goppers twisted this to suit their own ends by saying that it was about Healthcare. If you don't have food and shelter, those are your main concerns. It is obvious to analytical thinkers that the GOP is more interested in supremacy of conservatives than the well being of Americans at large. They have concentrated more on obstruction and destruction than promoting and supporting the advancement of the majority of Americans. Imagine how better off we would have been if big businesses had reinvested in the economy rather than hoard cash, use loopholes to get around taxation, and shipped jobs overseas. However, greed is paramount and it is compounded by the color of the residents in the White House. Let us rise to a higher standard.

Posted by: fasm7700 | February 2, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Split that hair Greg. Most people support killing Obamacare. What to replace it with should be a negotiated reform plan of our current system not some one party universal health care system.

Obamacare had three good points- allow children up to 26 years on a parent plan, elimination of the lifetime max amount, and elimination of denial for past medical history. Those can easily be worked into a new reform plan that changes our current plan. First and foremost we have to get govt out of health care. Costs for regulation and administration will make any serious attempt at reform unsustainable. It's the only way to make it successful.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | February 2, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Seriously? Do you really believe the lies coming out a New York Times poll? Please, most repbutable polls say that 70-80% of all Americans favor total repeal, but the libs will never let you hear that - they're too busy publishing lie after lie.

Posted by: salanatoli | February 2, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Very few Republicans actually ran on repealing the Health Care Law in the last election. Given that voter turnout was less than 50 percent and the economy was the number 1 issue in that election in poll after poll, I'd say that looking at the election as a vote for repeal is about as bogus as McConnell's "majority."

Posted by: steveandshelley | February 2, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse


So "only 20 percent support doing away with [health care reform]" and THAT 20% refers to themselves as "the majority of Americans."

Republicans believe 20% of Americans makes a majority [based on their "Fuzzy Numbers Economics].

I can really see how Republicans took down the American Economy.


Posted by: lindalovejones | February 2, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

what you seem tso 12bar, what was the question again? Am I teaching my children to behave like Liam-still does? Is that it?
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However you wish to frame the question is fine with me. Is that what you teach your children? Do as Liam does?

Posted by: 12BarBluesAgain | February 2, 2011 5:58 PM | Report abuse

mmyotis wrote:

Polls are simply another tool by which the public point of view on an issue can be expressed. Of course pollsters can intelligently formulate their questions to produce that favor their cause, that does not undermine their utility for understanding public opinion, however.
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I disagree. If pollsters are formulating their questions to achieve the result that they want to hear, then pollsters are USELESS. And yes, that is what they do. They phrase their question to achieve a pre-determined result.

Posted by: taroya | February 2, 2011 6:09 PM | Report abuse

McConnell telling the truth? Gee, and I forgot my umbrella for the raining of cats and dogs...but I am glad that the repukes have fully employed their minions to come on message boards to spred the lies. What a great job creator!

Posted by: LABC | February 2, 2011 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"Go back and read what I wrote, rather than what you want to assume I wrote."

Liam,

I don't see what I said that you think I got wrong. Could you do a better job of explaining?

Thanks,
Tom

Posted by: mmyotis | February 2, 2011 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Too bad too sad. Idiocy overwhelmed the Democrat Senators and the hr reform was blocked. They have proven tonight that they care more about their socialist agenda than they do about the American Constitution!
No surprise at all.
Tea party reunite! I will got to Washington,happily with you to protest the Senators that have voted against the US Constitution in favor of Socialism. Americans should be angry and have every right to protest the blockage of the HR reform! Write your Senators, send them faxes, vote against them in 2012!
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!!

Posted by: Ronjo58 | February 2, 2011 6:37 PM | Report abuse

"Erring on the side of giving readers more information, rather than less, has no downside that I can see."

Except for the fact, Greg Sargent, that your paper does no such thing.

Day after day, we are treated to "journalists" with a left leaning political agenda who attack conservatives rather than report the news.

That's why we all get our news from Fox, and then you attack that.....

Posted by: thinker16 | February 2, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Greg Sargent, how about some reporting on the exemptions from Obamacare given to so many companies/unions by the Obama administration?

If we had some truthful careful reporting on this matter as well as others, we might better decide our position....

Posted by: thinker16 | February 2, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

"thinker"16,

Could you provide an example of a journalist attacking conservatives? Or perhaps you are you confusing journalists with op-ed and opinion blog writers? If so, please not that the Washington Post has opinion writers representing various viewpoints. Try reading Charles Krauthammer, George Will, or Marc Thiessen if you prefer bathing your tender sensibilities in conservative waters.

Posted by: mmyotis | February 2, 2011 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Quite simply, the GOP has locked in on their 20% voter block who actually can be led to believe its better to have an "Insurance Corporation's Bill of Rights" than it is to have a "Patient's Bill of Rights". This is the same group who can be misled into routinely voting against their own best interests.

Here, I agree with Sargent, the GOP has found their last hurray, but the group that allowed them to gain majority in the House is getting older and poorer. As time passes, their are fewer old-school racists, and less money from GOP voters. See the GOP national committee is in huge debt.

That is where the "Citizens United" is key to any future suvival. They will disappear if it is not for huge corporate money and the slime of the K-street project. Will the GOP prevail or the American people? America must decide what century they want to live in... in electing the progressive Obama, they chose the future.

In allowing the GOP to catpure the House in 2010, they are slipping back into the 1950's.

Posted by: free-donny | February 2, 2011 8:46 PM | Report abuse

The guy is a lying sack of crap. That's pretty much the whole GOP modus operandi. They say one thing and do another after they get in office. They knew they had no chance of any repeal, but instead of telling the truth, they lied. They don't give a damn about the majority, they only care about the rich corporations that line their pockets. They will say anything to get elected, but it's all lies. They count on, and market to people who're too dumb to know better.

Posted by: Nymous | February 3, 2011 6:04 AM | Report abuse

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