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Posted at 2:32 PM ET, 02/17/2011

Wisconsin Dems in hiding to avoid law enforcement, Dem aide says

By Greg Sargent

Things are moving very rapidly in Wisconsin right now, and the latest is that State Senate Democrats are refusing to show up at the state capitol to prevent the measure to strip public employees of their bargaining rights from moving forward. There are unconfirmed reports that law enforcement is trying to round up these Dems and even that some of them may have left the state.

Adding to the bizarre sense of urgency, a Dem State Senate aide I just spoke to who is actually in the capitol told me that Dems who are on the scene don't know where the other Dem Senators are, because they appear to be in hiding from law enforcement.

"They are somewhere where they are not available to be forcibly taken to the floor," the aide said, the chant of protestors audible in the background. "They could be in the building. They could be in the basement for all I know."

The aide confirmed that the Dem Senators had been meeting to discuss the way forward as recently as an hour ago, and said he believed they were still together somewhere. "It's a thing of solidarity," he said.

Adding to the confusion, a spokesperson for the Wisconsin Democratic Party told TPM that the party also has no clue as to their whereabouts.

Senate Dems are apparently hoping that the longer they hold out, the more time unions will have to put pressure on wavering Senate Republicans to stop supporting the proposal. Hence the decision to disappear suddenly without a trace.

More when I learn it...

UPDATE, 2:43 p.m.: It looks like they're not in the capitol; the search of their offices is complete, with no luck.

UPDATE, 3:19 p.m.: A labor source sends over an interesting historical tidbit suggesting there's historical precedent for what's happening in Wisconsin. Lawmakers have twice gone missing in Texas, including this:

This is not the first time lawmakers have gone into hiding in Texas. Twenty-four years ago, 12 state senators hid out in defiance of Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Hobby. They became known as the "Killer Bees" and they hid out in a garage in Austin and played poker while Texas Rangers scoured the state looking for them.

By Greg Sargent  | February 17, 2011; 2:32 PM ET
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Comments

LOL.

Calling on the national guard and the police force to pass a budget.

That's gotta be a first.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 17, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

OT, But Hilarious.

Rove And The Birthers; Dumb and Dumber?

From Politcalwire.com

"
Rove Says Birthers Falling Into Obama Trap
Karl Rove told Fox News that Republicans have to stop the birthers in their party.

Said Rove: "Within our party, we've got to be very careful about allowing these people who are the birthers and the 9/11-deniers to get too high a profile and say too much without setting the record straight."

When asked what percentage of Republican voters were birthers -- a recent poll found 51% -- Rove added: "I don't know, but whatever it is, it ought to be less, because we need the leaders of our party to say 'Look, stop falling into the trap of the White House and focus on the real issues.'"

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Will Hosni Walker "rendition" them back to Madison?

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Just more Republican obstruction... er, wait a minute...

Posted by: sbj3 | February 17, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

That Rove quote is pure gold: birthers are whack but a White House conspiracy isn't. Brillant, Karl.

Jeebus, the GOP has truly turned into the Party of Paranoia and Conspiracy.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

This whole story is simply unbelievable. I would have never thought that any sitting politician would threaten other Americans with the force of military to achieve their political ends.

Is it even possible for the police to force someone to go anywhere they don't want to? I can't imagine that there is a law on the books that would allow a governor to round up anyone who hasn't committed a crime.

Posted by: DeanJ326 | February 17, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Hurdy gurdy music plays brightly, zany antics, madcap hijinks! The circus is in town.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

When was the last time a Governor called the cops and the National Guard on the state legislature because he wanted to shove legislation down the throats of the people?

Something happened in Wisconsin this last election. Democrats clearly underestimated the right wings ability there and here is the result.

A bunch of borderline fascists attacking the working class.

Maybe next time, sites like FDL, instead of running their mouths endlessly because they didn't get their way on everything could focus on, oh I don't know, ensuring these lunatics don't win elections.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 17, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm going to update this guys wiki page with how he called in the cops and military to squash the will of the minority.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 17, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I hope this doesn't take the glow off the stupor bowl victory.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

What happened in Wisconsin was the deluge of outside attack ads against Democrats, funded by anonymous Oligarchs, with their money laundered through Rove and The Chamber Of Con Artists.

Even now; The Club For Growth is running attack ads against the Unions.

The Oligarchs have won, and America has lost.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

The GOP-

Party of Rove and Atwater. I think Dante forsaw y'all...

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"Even now; The Club For Growth is running attack ads against the Unions."

And they are laughing every step of the way at how progressive groups constantly go after the Democrats and ignore what's going on. I wonder when these progressive groups will realize who the real enemy of the people is.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 17, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Hi all! I'm with those encouraging public employees to protest, conduct work slowdowns and strike. The end result will be beneficial.

Shrink, hope all is well. Here's a link from Instapundit (forgive shrink from clicking it Bernie, it's for the greater good. ;-)) linking purported video of Saudi tanks and APC's moving into Bahrain.

"BAHRAIN NEWS? Dave Foulk, a Knoxville radio news guy, emails: “I just spoke with a person in Bahrain, and they indicated to me that Saudi tanks and APC’s were coming across the causeway into Bahrain. Says the video of it is on YouTube. This individual was spot-on with warnings of protests the other day.” I couldn’t find the video on YouTube, but stay tuned."

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

Curious what Barry will do if protestors show up at the gates of our Navy base seeking refuge.

Great comments everyone!

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 17, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

We need an MLK, Jr. to lead us out of this wilderness of bought and paid-for politics.
The future of Democracy depends on it.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Troll “I just spoke with a person in Bahrain, and they indicated to me that Saudi tanks and APC’s were coming across the causeway into Bahrain." Sure why not? When it comes to Sunni (and also Wahabi) Royals, it's all for one and one for all. American position is a bit different on this one, the price of losing a "trusted ally" would be too steep, especially since the opposition is Shiite.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

That Rove quote is pure gold: birthers are whack but a White House conspiracy isn't. Brillant, Karl.

Jeebus, the GOP has truly turned into the Party of Paranoia and Conspiracy.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 2:42 PM |

.....................

Rove was forced to apologise to the Tea Party types once before, so if they return fire, on his latest comment, I would not be at all surprised to see him back peddle again, in a few days time, and say something like: they do have a legitimate question, and President Obama should send a copy of his long form birth certificate to ever turnip in
America.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Wowsers! What a news day, this one.

Aside from that, just had a doofus come into my store, chest-puffy fellow about 40. I inquired whether he might be looking for a floral-motif purse and he wasn't. He was, he said, "old school" (sub-text - I don't like fags). Proclaimed his disgust for the metro Portland area because of the residents, the pervasive criminality etc and declared he wouldn't even let his wife come into the city by herself (accompanied by six or eight women, maybe). But with him, unpleasant but she'd be safe - "Anyone comes up, I put them in their place" then laughs, underlining his manliness (repeated again two minutes later, verbatim). Used to be a cop. "This place is exactly like San Francisco" he advised. Then his phone rings. His ringtone? TV theme - "Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do"

What a friggin jerk.

Posted by: bernielatham | February 17, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Shrink, as I said last night, no way are the Saudi's going to tolerate any instability.

And go Public Employees! Protest! Strike! The end result is going to ne great!

Great work everybody! :-)

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 17, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"We need an MLK, Jr. to lead us out of this wilderness of bought and paid-for politics."

That was supposed to be BHO.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"What a friggin jerk."

Well, did he buy anything?
That would have helped, a little,
maybe.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Why do right wingers insist on reducing the teachers down to union thug caricatures?

I can't understand the hate people like Malkin display to teachers and other public employees. Where does that drive to tear these people down come from? Is it just the money she saps out of her readers that drives her or what?

Posted by: mikefromArlington | February 17, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

@DeanJ326"This whole story is simply unbelievable. I would have never thought that any sitting politician would threaten other Americans with the force of military to achieve their political ends.

Is it even possible for the police to force someone to go anywhere they don't want to? I can't imagine that there is a law on the books that would allow a governor to round up anyone who hasn't committed a crime."

Apparently so for quorum calls. There was a link in the last thread about the time the Democrats did it to the Republicans in Congress.

"The Senate sergeant of arms can, and has, arrested senators to bring them to the floor to achieve a quorum. it's not surprising that states have similar rules. It's rare, but it happens. whether or not it's an outrage depends on who's being arrested and why.


http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/25/us/a-senator-is-captured-but-not-his-mind.html

Posted by: NoVAHockey | February 17, 2011 2:05 PM "

Posted by: jnc4p | February 17, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

@Liam - Rove, Kristol, Armey etc are working rather feverishly at trying to make their party and movement look sane and normal. They have to work at this because their party and movement no longer are sane nor normal - otherwise they wouldn't have to do this.

But it a situation which they themselves brought into being by fomenting the worst tendencies in their community for electoral gain.

I'm absolutely delighted to see them drowning in the cesspool they filled up.

Posted by: bernielatham | February 17, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

From Wikipedia on Scott (Little Hosni) Walker:

Walker was born in Colorado Springs, Colorado, to Llew Walker, a Baptist minister, and Pat Walker, a bookkeeper. He moved with his family to Plainfield, Iowa when he was an infant, and then to Delavan, Wisconsin when he was ten years old.

While in high school, he attended two weeks of American Legion sponsored training in leadership and government; Badger Boys State held in Wisconsin, and the selective Boys Nation held in Washington, D.C. He has credited the experience with solidifying his interest in public service and giving him the "political bug". He graduated from Delavan-Darien High School in 1986 then attended Marquette University from 1986 to 1990, quitting about 36 credit hours short of graduation, with a grade point average in the C's.

Walker explained his reasons for leaving college: "In the end, I figured I was in school to get a good job,” he said. “So once I had one, family became more important than getting a degree.” He worked for IBM in sales from 1988 to 1990, and in marketing and development at the Red Cross from 1990 to 1994, according to his LinkedIn profile. He is the first governor of Wisconsin in 64 years to not have a college degree.

Posted by: suekzoo1 | February 17, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Bernie,

Don't be so hard on the guy. He is taking back his country, one ringtone at at time.

I bet he was never a cop, just some wannabe.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Most of these GOP whack jobs in WI will be thrown out in the next election cycle, maybe sooner if a recall takes place.
The aforementioned election dough from the Right Wing moneyed interests sent into that state in 2010, coupled with a mid-term low voter turnout that was predominately old and white has led to the present manufactured fiscal crisis situation.

Posted by: filmnoia | February 17, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Isn't this the equivalent of ... "If we can't win, we will take our ball and go home"? Last year, the Republicans duly voted and watched as Obama and his super-majority rip the country to shreds and ram their agenda through. Put the shoe on the other foot and watch the democrats become immature babies.

Posted by: TamTom | February 17, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Had he purchased a floral purse, that would have made everything better. I might have kissed him.

Re Wisconsin - the obvious solution here is to call up The Hammer and have him get Homeland Security on the case.

Posted by: bernielatham | February 17, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Here's the question that we here in Wisconsin who oppose this bill keep asking: WHAT BUDGET CRISIS?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/wisconsin-gov-walker-ginned-up-budget-shortfall-to-undercut-worker-rights.php :

"In its Jan. 31 memo to legislators on the condition of the state's budget, the Fiscal Bureau determined that the state will end the year with a balance of $121.4 million.

"To the extent that there is an imbalance -- Walker claims there is a $137 million deficit -- it is not because of a drop in revenues or increases in the cost of state employee contracts, benefits or pensions. It is because Walker and his allies pushed through $140 million in new spending for special-interest groups in January.

"You can read the fiscal bureaus report here [http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/2011_01_31Vos&Darling.pdf]. It holds that "more than half" of the new shortfall comes from three of Walker's initiatives:

•$25 million for an economic development fund for job creation, which still holds $73 million because of anemic job growth.

•$48 million for private health savings accounts -- a perennial Republican favorite.

•$67 million for a tax incentive plan that benefits employers, but at levels too low to spur hiring."

Posted by: awashburn | February 17, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope those little dust-ups in the middle east, do not delay the shipment of Camels that Hosni Mubarak Walker ordered for his Goon Squads!

He needs to crack some teachers' skulls to get them out of capitol grounds in Madison, Wi.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

mike said: "I can't understand the hate people like Malkin display to teachers and other public employees. Where does that drive to tear these people down come from? Is it just the money she saps out of her readers that drives her or what?"

You'll get much the same sort of "values" from most of the right wing contingent here. It is, as I suggested earlier, a direct consequence of several decades of sustained anti-union, anti-government propaganda. Teachers' unions have been a particular target (as contrasted with, say fire or police) for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Posted by: bernielatham | February 17, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

shrink-

I'm talking about a sea change in attitude. What difference does it really make if you raise/need $100M from individuals or corporations? It's the 100M that is the problem.

Please don't think me too naive: I'm sure some said we'd never do alot of things we've done...

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Actually this same thing happened in Texas during the O's. Republicans called the cops on them & called the Democrats treasonous. The Dems went to Oklahoma where the State Police (who were ordered to arrest them) couldn't get them.

How is it even legal to pass a law making unionizing illegal?

Posted by: kindness1 | February 17, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"Why do right wingers insist on reducing the teachers down to union thug caricatures?"

My kid's first grade teacher, Mrs. L. has been doing a wonderful job, we love her (really). But now I come to find out after work she rips off the latex mask and becomes a neckless thug in a sateen Local jacket, armed with a baseball bat that has Jimmy Hoffa's DNA on it.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Addendum on that last to mike... another aspect that has put teachers into high relief for modern conservatives is the displeasure from religious right folks with curricula they see as subversive to theological notions.

Posted by: bernielatham | February 17, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Just like St. Ronnie's crack about gov't employees.

How would you like it if your boss just shat upon the entire workforce in your large company? What a gentleman.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"I'm talking about a sea change in attitude. What difference does it really make if you raise/need $100M from individuals or corporations? It's the 100M that is the problem."

Chuck I hope you know I agree, sorry I am just being a wiseacre, wishing I had a union job so I never had to work again.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

@shrink - That's two references to "sateen" in the last few days. I'm wondering if your pejorative usage here might be related to an account I read recently from a fellow in his twenties who was taken aback when his grandfather confided that he didn't like sateen sheets because they didn't allow "a good purchase".

Posted by: bernielatham | February 17, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

On the last thread, skip said Wisconsin's pension fund is unfunded. This is not the case. It's fully funded and one of the best in the country, even as rated by Conservatives. Not to get too much in the weeds, but the WI Department of Employee Trust Funds has a policy of "smoothing" that means any declines in fund earnings are spread over several years to maintain benefits at the level required by state law. For instance, this year the largest fund earned over 12%, but annuitants are projected to have pensions reduced around 1% as a result of losses the year the market tanked.

This is the case of a solid and effective program. The attack on it has to do with politics, not economics.

Posted by: AllButCertain | February 17, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

British Columbia government union joke. What's orange and sleeps four? A department of highways vehicle.

Posted by: bernielatham | February 17, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

So; Muslims would appear to be only thing that Fox will not lie about;

"Fox faces fallout over misleading footage before Ron Paul interview"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20110217/ts_yblog_thecutline/fox-airs-misleading-footage-before-ron-paul-interview

"On Tuesday, Fox News anchor Bill Hemmer asked Ron Paul to respond to the chorus of boos that greeted news the insurgent small-government Texas congressman had won the Conservative Political Action Conference's presidential straw poll for the second year in a row. There was just one problem with Hemmer's question: The vocal chorus of boos didn't come from last week's 2011 CPAC as the network claimed; rather those boos were from the 2010 conference."

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

" Teachers' unions have been a particular target (as contrasted with, say fire or police) for the reasons I mentioned earlier"

Hi Bernie! My ears were ringing and I saw your comment! :-). What is the purpose of Teachers Unions?

Hope your day goes better!

Posted by: TrollMcWingnut | February 17, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Bernie, you know that shiny, almost silky looking fabric, cotton for sheets but Rayon™ when it comes to outerwear. Well some Locals take their apparel seriously and their jackets are works are art.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Chuck I hope you know I agree, sorry I am just being a wiseacre, wishing I had a union job so I never had to work again.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:32 PM |


You work?!!!

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

You work?!!!

I am a peerless paragon of paper pushing productivity.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:43 PM | Report abuse

search them out...
lethal force allowed...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 17, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope that our friendly despots in Saudia Arabia and The United Arab Emirates will launch a D -Day Invasion to drive out the Iranian Occupiers from the USA. After all, NRA Patriots will be no match for those Ayatollah Panzer Divisions.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"UPDATE, 3:19 p.m.: A labor source sends over an interesting historical tidbit suggesting there's historical precedent for what's happening in Wisconsin. Lawmakers have twice gone missing in Texas, including this:

This is not the first time lawmakers have gone into hiding in Texas. Twenty-four years ago, 12 state senators hid out in defiance of Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Hobby. They became known as the "Killer Bees" and they hid out in a garage in Austin and played poker while Texas Rangers scoured the state looking for them."

I also recall the issue with Tom Delay and the FAA trying to track down some fleeing Texas legislators for the mid-census redistricting that they were trying to push through back in 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Texas_redistricting

Posted by: jnc4p | February 17, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I say invalidate their pension, turn it over to the feds and worry about it anymore...
see how much they get from the feds...
a penny for every dollar...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 17, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Go get em, Dwight, with your cork gun!

Posted by: Papagnello | February 17, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

If Hosni Mubarak Walker voids the teachers' collective bargining contract, then the teachers will have every right to withhold their services. They should shut down every public school in the state.

Let's see Hosni Mubarak Walker have the Wisc. National Guard take over the teaching duties in every public school in the state.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh no, now things are starting to get a little more serious. Do you folks know how much money is involved in Formula 1? Why it makes NASCAR look like just a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle draggers from the hills of Appalachia.

"Boss Bernie Ecclestone has warned the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix in March will be cancelled if unrest in the country continues."

Talk about a death threat!

Posted by: shrink2 | February 17, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

"Why do right wingers insist on reducing the teachers down to union thug caricatures?"

I'll be honest. both my grandfathers worked in steel mills. I worked for the federal government for a few years and declined to join the union, largely because i would have been ashamed to look them in the eye. I was making good money and the biggest risk to me was a paper cut. I've got a master's degree and worked in an air-conditioned cube. The idea that I needed protection from management, compared to two men who worked near coke ovens and didn't attended and/or finish high school rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't begrudge my co-workers from joining, but i don't think it helped them either. i quit because every stereotype you've heard about the government is true. I worked with a lot of very dedicated, smart, hardworking people who are never going to to advance because the deck is stacked in favor of seniority and not making waves, rather than merit. the system rewards time above all else. it does not reward merit, nor does it punish incompetence. Some had the patience for it. i did not. i talked a lot with my co-workers about it. there was a lot of fear about "bad managers" punishing people. i always said i'd welcome the risk of a vindictive manager in exchange for the opportunity for my work to be rewarded.

there was an age divide in the attitude. but a lot of the people my age -- late 20s at the time -- had no intention of making government a career either, an idea the older folks just didn't comprehend.

this is a long way of say that blue-collar workers are going to get a lot more sympathy from me than desk-jockeys with college degrees. where that puts teachers, I'm torn, as they're not exactly white collar. but they're not driving fork-lifts either.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | February 17, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

All, my take on the larger meaning of this fight:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/02/the_stakes_in_wisconsin_1.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | February 17, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

A Formula One Boycott?

Looks like the Kingdom better stock up on Breast Pumps, but don't tell Michelle Bachmann about it.

It Never Bahrain But It Pours for those poor Arabian Despots.

Posted by: Liam-still | February 17, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

NoVa, have you ever been in a classroom as a teacher? It's one hard job. I can't tell you the respect I gained for the teachers working in city schools when I volunteered as a reading mentor a couple of years ago.

Posted by: AllButCertain | February 17, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Liam, it's hard to get a serious discussion going here today, but I'm still glad you're hilarious. Could you do a seminar for all these Republican pols with the Irish names? (And yeah, I'm a good part Irish too.)

Posted by: AllButCertain | February 17, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

cowards, union puppets, weasels, slimebags, scumbags, lowlifes, rats leaving the ship....What do you call lunatic-left d-crat socialists that run and hide rather than doing their job?

"Taking Back Our Country" involves more than removing the self-serving Ruling Class Establishment politicians. It's also about curtailing, controlling, reducing and - to the maximum extent possible - eliminating taxpayer leeches known as public sector union members and bureauweenies from further destroying our country and the American way of life with their one goal of enriching themselves at the expense of everyone else.

Posted by: TeaPartyNation | February 17, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

"For example, Wisconsin governments no longer would deduct union dues from paychecks."--A.P.
---------------
Wisconsin public employee union bosses are soiling themselves over this one.

Posted by: drowningpuppies | February 17, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

ABC - no, I haven't.

but as hard as teaching is, you don't run the risk of being killed in an industrial accident.



Posted by: NoVAHockey | February 17, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Good for the Wisconsin Democrats. They care about the rights of their constiuents. The GOP has declared war on all working Americans. Look at crybaby Boehner. When told that 650,000 people could lose there jobs, he replied, "So be it." You think this can't happen to you? It's all about divide and conquer. First they came after the blue collar jobs, shipping them overseas. Now they've come after federal employees and public servants. It's the white collars next.

Posted by: eed017 | February 17, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Well its apparent the democrats in Wisconsin are cowards.....no matter, the GOP will win this and once again the Democrats side with the destructive public unions. Now the Dems have become terrorists and their support of the unions over the welfare of Wisconsin and the US is criminal. Still, they will lose as wil the blood-sucking public union in Wisconsin. After the bizarre and shameful behavior of the Dems in Wisconsin, the country will reject Obama and the Dems even more.

Posted by: Realist201 | February 17, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

@ Realist-

"Now the Dems have become terrorists and their support of the unions over the welfare of Wisconsin and the US is criminal."

Keep it up, y'all, with the "terrist" and "criminal" language. So much for civil language and behavior.

Posted by: ChuckinDenton | February 17, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Wisconsin Democratic legislators FOUND at Best Western Clock Tower Resort, 7801 East State Street, Rockford, Illinois. (815) 398-6000. Ask for Chris Larson.

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 17, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Wisconsin Democratic legislators FOUND at Best Western Clock Tower Resort, 7801 East State Street, Rockford, Illinois. (815) 398-6000. Ask for Chris Larson.

Posted by: clawrence12 | February 17, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Democrats and unions, yellow stripes up there backs when it comes to standing alone and having to vote against the will of the party. Put them all together and there nothing more than chicago thugs,mobsters, stab you in the back steal you blind as long as it furthers there cause to line their pockets with riches from someone elses pocket.
Most of these sniveling cowards, work in the government or hold public office or union reps.
There like Bannanas, they start out green, turn yellow and before you realize it their rotten.

Posted by: jhnjdy | February 17, 2011 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness someone will stop the govenrmetn to dfend a worker's rights.

you have the right to have the Union take your money without your permission.

You have the right to have your earnings spent on campaign contributions without your input.

You have the right to have other people spend your hard earned money without any input from you whatsoever.

If you choose to give up these rights; the Democrats will shut down the entire state government to protect your right to have a union hand in your pocket spending your money until the end of time.

Hooray for defense of "rights". Hey liberals, sign a paper giving me the power to spend your income on campaign contributions without your input... you'd hate to miss out on having these "rights" wouldn't you?

Posted by: gekkobear | February 18, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

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