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Posted at 2:07 PM ET, 03/ 7/2011

OFA: GOP budget could mean loss of nearly one million jobs

By Greg Sargent

The White House and Democrats have taken criticism from some on the left for signaling weakness in budget negotiations with Republicans by accepting billions in cuts at the outset -- a stance that risks letting the GOP define the terms of the debate.

But Obama's political operation, Organizing for America, is going out today with a new email to supporters meant to signal a tougher line, vowing a new organizational push across the country against further cuts. OFA frames the cuts as a threat to the recovery:

The Repubicans budget ... could mean nearly 1 million American jobs lost -- all without making a dent in the deficit.

With a shutdown looming, we're approaching a critical moment that could quickly become a crisis.

Organizing for America will make sure Americans know that millions of people -- from every district in this country -- will be affected by these cuts.

And we'll show lawmakers that we're paying attention, we're organizing, and we're not going to stop. That we refuse to accept partisan games that could cost hundreds of thousands of jobs -- or a government shutdown that puts our economy at risk.

Dems have been touting a recent analysis by economist Mark Zandi that claimed GOP cuts could lead to a loss of 700,000 jobs.

Some Congressional Dems have criticized Obama for not inserting himself a bit more directly into the budget fight. It remains to be seen whether Obama will position himself as more of a compromiser between Dems and the GOP than as a defender of core liberal priorities as the debate unfolds, but for now, this new push from OFA seems designed to signal to the base that the White House is gearing up to go to war.

By Greg Sargent  | March 7, 2011; 2:07 PM ET
Categories:  House GOPers, White House, budget  
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As soon as these Republican Gov. budgets across the U.S. are voted and acted upon, there will be hundreds of thousands of teachers laid off.

The stupidification of Amurka.

Posted by: mikefromArlington | March 7, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

So this suggests that President Obama will be defining differences between him and the Republicans. I sure hope so. The mealy-mouthed statements so far are bad public policy and bad politics.

Posted by: mainer2 | March 7, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

job? What are these job you speak of?

Posted by: DDAWD | March 7, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

"...the White House is gearing up to go to war..."

unfortunate usage

Posted by: shrink2 | March 7, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, let us have a war. Lets engage in budget battles, with targets of opportunity and various "fronts". Let's heap on the military aphorisms and then whine about "civility" when the liberals get thier virtual noses bloodied.

As for the concept of laying off a bunch of teacher, I'm fine with that. If we keep doing what we've always done, we'll keep getting what we've always got. And what we've got thus far is a mediocre product (at best) at a steep, steep price.

Time for a change.

And why should anyone shed a tear for laid off teachers? IN Millwaukee the teachers were offered a choice between coverage for viagara and spending the same amount of salaries for new teachers. The teachers SUED to get viagara covered. If the teachers themselves don't care who gets the axe, why should anyone else?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | March 7, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but anyone with any sense would stay away from teaching.

Any time there is a budget shortfall they are the target.

It happened in the 80's. It's happening again.

The Republican war on teachers has been successful. Our schools are failing. Our students are falling behind.

Congratulations Republicans. Your campaign has been a success!

Posted by: mikefromArlington | March 7, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh please! This must be libonomics at work here.

1,000,000,000,000 OBAMA BUCKS didn't create a single REAL job and now lopping off a few billion dollars is going to cost 700,000 jobs.

That's a real hoot!

It don't add up.

But, in the Obamanation, it never does.

Posted by: battleground51 | March 7, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Gallup sez that having no, clear, front runner in the Republican race is unusual.

It may be.

But, I think it is a good sign.

Republicans don't want to make the same fatal error the goofy Democrats made in 2008. You'll see no Republicans getting tingles, in their thighs, over any candidate.

It's wise to wait and make a wiser choice.

Posted by: battleground51 | March 7, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

This is getting stupid. The Zandi estimate has already been discredited. Now OFA wants to up the ante to a million? And the folks here are going to try to characterize all of these imaginary job losses as teacher losses?

Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf?

(BTW, skip, I wouldn't blame the majority of poor student performance on the teachers. It's been my experience that the fault lies with jerky kids themselves.)

Posted by: sbj3 | March 7, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama is now going into full, re-election mode.

It'll be like Mr Hyde changing into Dr Jekyll.

Obama knows he's in deep do-do.

He's gonna do Clinton and hope for the best.

It's all he can do.

Refusing to enforce the DOMA law ain't gonna help. He must really be a hostage of the radical homosexuals.

Free Obama!!

Posted by: battleground51 | March 7, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

OT:

Ensign (R-NV) To Announce Retirement

Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., will announce his plans to retire Monday, a Senate aide has confirmed.

A once-promising politician who had once been talked about as presidential material, Ensign would have faced a rocky campaign. In late 2009, Ensign confessed to an extramarital affair with a former staffer -- and wife of another Ensign aide. Both the woman and her husband were close friends of the senator and his wife. Ensign's parents subsequently paid the couple $96,000.

The Department of Justice and Federal Election Commission both investigated Ensign over the payment, and both dropped their investigations toward the end of last year. But the Senate Ethics Committee was still in the midst of investigating the senator, and recently named a special counsel to the case.

So far this year, eight senators have announced they will not seek re-election next year: Ensign is the third Republican.

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/03/ensign-to-annou.php

Posted by: ronnieandrush | March 7, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"Ensign (R-NV) To Announce Retirement"

Unfortunately (for some), this is good news for the GOP.

Posted by: sbj3 | March 7, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Battleground51 has clearly not read what Republicans have been saying about Governor Tony Soprano Teletubby of NJ.

Posted by: oldabandonedbeachhouse | March 7, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I just clicked my email to send the message to the R's. :-)

BTW It was very well done as always. It didn't refer to 700,000 jobs but 38,500 jobs for the state of Florida. This can go with the 30,000 jobs the shameless fraudster killed when he torpedoed the 2.4 BILLION in Federal $$$ for our bullet train. Truly sad since we would have been a great pilot project. The land is already set aside as part of the I-4 Corridor..but hey...who wants good infrastructure when we can continue cutting taxes for the wealthy oligarchs like Scott.

Posted by: rukidding7 | March 7, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately (for some), this is good news for the GOP."

I'm not sure who it is unfortunate for SBJ...other than the Ensign family and their patrons.

Posted by: rukidding7 | March 7, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Is battleground51 just another sock puppet for STRF or whatever he was calling himself in his last carnation. His Obama delusion is just as severe, let's hope there are not actually two folks that ill.

Posted by: rukidding7 | March 7, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

@ruk: "I'm not sure who it is unfortunate for SBJ."

Unfortunate for Dem party because *anyone* the GOP runs will do better than Ensign would have. (Was always a good pickup opp for Dems, just got a wee bit more difficult.)

Posted by: sbj3 | March 7, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Sbj- agreed. Where did a million come from?

Posted by: mobrien83 | March 7, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

@SBJ

I suspected as much but I wasn't sure. Isn't Sharron Angle available?

Posted by: rukidding7 | March 7, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

sbj: "Unfortunate for Dem party because *anyone* the GOP runs will do better than Ensign would have. (Was always a good pickup opp for Dems, just got a wee bit more difficult.)"

Don't count out Sharron Angle, or the Chicken Lady! :o)

Posted by: suekzoo1 | March 7, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@mobrien: "Where did a million come from?"

I'm not sure but I think there are very few people left in this country who are willing to believe *anything* the Dems say regarding how many jobs spending/stimulus will produce.

Posted by: sbj3 | March 7, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Well, if the last election was about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, then the Dems have a big Green light to skewer the Repubs political budget cuts. One million jobs are one million jobs.

Posted by: dozas | March 7, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

sbj3, well if the problem isn't totally the teachers, then having less of them shouldn't adversely impact the result that the schools produce, right?

It is important to understand the nature of Mr Sargent's blog post. He's basically admiring the fact that Obama will spend millions of other people's money to spread a lie.

It is ever thus with the left. They have a large interlocking group of agitation groups that are designed to advance the liberal agenda and the truth be darned.

this is a perfect example. OFA will spread a lie. Like the upset Democrat legislator from last week, they will spout the "job loss" number as if it were fact. And they will try to cast themselves as impartial judges of the situation, just like that lefty front group that "called for an investigation" in WI.

It is all of piece with the liberal playbook: by any means necessary. And truth is the first casualty in war. The difference is, the liberals can't deny that they spread a lie. The evidence is just too strong and to well known.

I doubt that will stop OFA though. The big lie machinery the left built up over the years works too well not to use it in this case.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | March 7, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"Isn't Sharron Angle available?"

Please, Buddha - anyone but Angle (or Lowden).

Posted by: sbj3 | March 7, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"The land is already set aside as part of the I-4"

That's between Tampa and Orlando, right?
why would you put a bullet train between cities less than 150 miles apart?

Posted by: NoVAHockey | March 7, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

rukidding- The email I recieved did mention the 1 million jobs but much more focus was put on how many jobs will be lost in Michigan. I particularly liked how it referenced particular programs where jobs will be lost.

It's almost cute hearing Republicans complain about alleged misinformation after their behavior during the Health Care debate.

"Republicans don't want to make the same fatal error the goofy Democrats made in 2008."

Fatal error eh??

Posted by: ashotinthedark | March 7, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

We should all be on the lookout for misinformation when it comes from either side. The one million figure was just pulled from someone's butt.

Posted by: sbj3 | March 7, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Animated Map of Unemployment Since 2007
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504464_162-20014136-504464.html

The Pelosi-Obama-Reid (POR) economy kicked in during the latter part of 2007, when its architects decided that starving the economy of energy by refusing to allow more offshore drilling in the face of $4 gas prices was a winning political position. Pelosi claimed that because we couldn't totally "drill our way out of this," we shouldn't increase drilling at all. Reid put an exclamation point on Pelosi's stubbornness by insisting that fossil fuels are "making us sick."

What Pelosi, Obama, and Reid should do now is expand tax cuts, ditch all of the alleged "investments" in so-called "green" (read: globaloney) technology, open up oil and gas exploration, watch the royalty money pour in and employ hard-working Americans in good paying jobs again.

I know: that's way too much to "hope" that Americans be permitted to use our own resources to lower unemployment and enrich our country.

Posted by: KaddafiDelendaEst | March 7, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"why would you put a bullet train between cities less than 150 miles apart?"

That's the first leg of the plan to eventually run the line down to Miami.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_high_speed_rail

Posted by: suekzoo1 | March 7, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

All, this is pretty big: Scott Walker attacks Dems at presser, makes them more resolved to hold out:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/walker_holds_press_conference.html

Posted by: Greg Sargent | March 7, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

What about "when you cut the budget you cut the jobs that are funded by the budget" is so hard to understand?

Those claiming that it's "a lie" are ignoring the fact that when you cut OSHA and research funds and all the other line items, you are cutting jobs. These are real jobs done by real people, often highly educated people but also support staff with less education. And those real people buy groceries and furniture and hire tradespeople and buy new homes and pay their state and local taxes.

Posted by: mainer2 | March 7, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"Battleground51 has clearly not read what Republicans have been saying about Governor Tony Soprano Teletubby of NJ."

Somehow, I just can't see Americans supporting FatBastard for president.

Posted by: JennOfArk | March 7, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"well if the problem isn't totally the teachers, then having less of them shouldn't adversely impact the result that the schools produce, right?"
-----------------------------------------
Since you seem to think teachers are the problem, why not outlaw teaching as a profession entirely? I obviously don't think you are promoting that, but it's the same blunt analysis you are using.

In your unsupported, ax wielding argument against teachers you did inadvertanly make me wonder if class-size makes much of a difference. I couldn't find anything that concluded class size was a particularly important factor. However, there was an interesting article that suggests instead of spending money on reducing class sizes that money should be given to increase salaries for teachers! I'm sure you're on board with that.

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/journals/pspi/pdf/pspi2_1.pdf

The articles also invariably raised socio-economic status as a big issue in education peformance. However, you don't really think that exists and that it's merely a matter of hard work rather than where you're born in the social ladder. So I'm not sure what the point of having a discussion on education policy is when you refuse to acknoweldge the biggest problem.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | March 7, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"That's the first leg of the plan to eventually run the line down to Miami."

Okay, but that's a 3 hour drive. I'm not opposed to rail, but it seems like it needs to compete with short commuter flights, not short car trips. I'm not sure what type of passenger they're going after.

if high speed rail is to be successful, it should be between major cities that are at least a days drive and few stops. like Boston, NYC, DC -- and no stops in between.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | March 7, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

got a b ad case of the sillies today Ashot? it certainly seems that way.

I have no problem paying teachers well. None. Ohio's SB5 does exactly that by making it illegal to pay based on longetivity and mandating pay based on merit.

the WI teachers have three huge problems: First, the taxpayers know now that the teachers are getting a sweetheart deal.
Next, the teachers have a well publicized track record of preferring goodies over additional teachers. Finally, the teachers' union operates an expensive insurance plan that many districts MUST buy from by virtue of the contract.

The taxpayers are getting hosed here. We know it and we're taking steps to confront it. I haven't talked to anyone, home or work that thinks the teachers' deal is a good one for the taxpayers.

Oh and thanks for putting a bunch of words in my mouth. Why not go back and read what I wrote instead of making up what you wish I wrote. My position is simple, if what sbj3 states is true, that is that school performance is more a function of the kids than of the teachers, then we will get by just fine with fewer teachers.

All this other stuff you attribute to me is completely out your own rectum.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | March 7, 2011 3:46 PM | Report abuse

@skip: "If what sbj3 states is true, that is that school performance is more a function of the kids than of the teachers, then we will get by just fine with fewer teachers."

Of course there's a limit.

But let's first reduce the number of counselors, "aides", "staff", and administrators. After that let's start trying to make kids feel just a little bit of shame for bringing home poor grades.

Posted by: sbj3 | March 7, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

@NoVA

"That's between Tampa and Orlando, right?
why would you put a bullet train between cities less than 150 miles apart?"

As Sue has answered it was the first LEG of the bullet train. They had planned to start with this leg for a variety of reasons including the fact that the right of way already exists and so there would not be interminable and controversial eminent domain battles.

But I have to ask you this NoVa. Have you driven I-4 lately. It's not only incredibly congested it is one of the most dangerous highways in all of Florida. Three lanes with some folks wanting to go 85MPH and the blue hairs insisting on the right to keep the speed limit even if they're in the passing lane. I have to make that trip a half dozen times a year if not more and I detest it! I'd much rather drive to Naples down I-75 even though it's farther than Orlando..again no picnic but much better than I-4.

The other part of the equation is local light rail projects one of which in the Orlando area had already been approved. These light rail projects were going to connect to the high speed terminals.

Imagine..no paying $4 a gallon for gas...no risking your life on the most dangerous highway in our state..and having a nice light rail connection at the other end to take you where you want. I can guarantee you I'd ride it.

BTW Scott vetoed this purely on ideological grounds...nothing to do with business or reality. He took something from ONE CONSERVATIVE think tank and ran with it. But even conservative businessmen in our state are peoed at Scott for this blunder. The Feds gave assurances that no matter the success or failure they would not ask for their money back...private companies then stepped in an guaranteed any cost overruns...This is exactly the kind of decision making that got Scott FIRED from his own corporation.

Scott is clueless as to the word "consensus".

Posted by: rukidding7 | March 7, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

@Jenn

"Somehow, I just can't see Americans supporting FatBastard for president."

Ouch but funny!

Posted by: rukidding7 | March 7, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

skip- They're called rhetorical points. I exaggerate your claims to emphasize that if your arguments are taken to their logical conclusion they have absurd results. If teacher are the problem, why have them at all?

I know it's easier if sbj3's argument is as simple as you make out, but it's just not. Maybe kids peform better in smaller classes (that doesn't seem to be true) so assuming equal teacher quality, additional teacher could improve performance. Whether this is true or not is less relevant than your failure to recognize that as a possiblity. Given your eagerness to lay off your teacher neighbors it's not too surprising that you missed that.

You've repeatedly said public employees, which obviously includes teachers, live lavish lifestyle, have sweetheart deals and any other number of adjectives to compare their cost outweighing their value. You don't just get to take back all those comments.

According to your own comments about fewer teachers not harming teachers, then you shouldn't have a problem with teachers not wanting to decrease class sizes.

Pension and health care costs are part of their salary, public unions all over take lower pay in exchange for other benefits provided by unions. You can't separate salary and benefits unless you're prepared to offer teachers a rather significant raise.

You have also repeteadly denied the fact social mobility in America does not exist. If you're going to ignore what is widely recognized to be one of the most, if not the most, important factor in educational success, you can't have a discussion about our education system.

While I appreciate your anecdotal polling, my own polling doesn't show much resentment of teachers.

Posted by: ashotinthedark | March 7, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse


Ruk -- haven't been to Florida in years, but i'll take you word on traffic. but i'll see your I-4 and raise you the Capital Beltway.

regardless, i don't see a problem with rail between Tampa and Orlando, just high speed rail. i think that particular technology is best suited for longer distances and not regional stuff. maybe something like the VRE would be better in between Tampa on Orlando.

http://www.vre.org/vremap/app?action=ovmap


Posted by: NoVAHockey | March 7, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Republicans need to read the tea leaves coming out of Wisconsin and figure out that America's middle class have had enough of high unemployment and will not sit by while they eliminate massive number of jobs.

Republicans are fools if they think they have earned trust and don't share the blame for what the American workers have gone through.

If we're broke as they like to claim, then Congress should give up some salary and benefits, because they brought us to this huge mess.

Posted by: Beeliever | March 7, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

@Jenn

"Somehow, I just can't see Americans supporting FatBastard for president."

Ouch but funny!

Posted by: rukidding7 | March 7, 2011 4:03 PM
=====================================

What? Is Jerrold Nadler running for President?

Posted by: Brigade | March 7, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this right. The Republicans wanting to cut 60 billion dollars is going to cost 1 million jobs. Well the President has said lets freeze spending and he claims it will save (CUT) 400 billion dollars over 5 years. Does this over the next 5 years we are going to lose 6.5 million new jobs. Or because the President is a liberal Democrat is there a different kind of metric.

Posted by: bjeagle784 | March 7, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this right. The Republicans wanting to cut 60 billion dollars is going to cost 1 million jobs. Well the President has said lets freeze spending and he claims it will save (CUT) 400 billion dollars over 5 years. Does this mean over the next 5 years we are going to lose 6.5 million new jobs. Or because the President is a liberal Democrat is there a different kind of metric.

Posted by: bjeagle784 | March 7, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

The first Government "Shutdown" began with a Republican President, Pres. Ronald Reagan; that is something a Democratic President would not do, gamble with the People's money and benefits; that is so unethical and uncompassionate; there are many people just living above the poverty line, who live check to check and they cannot afford to have money denied them even for a day. The Era of Reagan started a lot of evils, which we are still paying for today. Long live the likes of FDR!

However, that is a fact "irresponsiible journalism" will not tell you!

Posted by: wdsoulplane | March 8, 2011 5:24 AM | Report abuse

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